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I haven't seen one in a while, so let's talk about beat 'em up. Favorite games, favorite soundtracks, underrated games, recent 1cc's etc.

>> No.2380439

I didn't believe in this genre much until I played Punisher.

Oh shit, this is too much fun, feels really fast and fluid. Any other game like that?

Also Ninja Baseball Batman is cool

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>>2380439
>any other game like that
Try Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, it has similar combat and fast-pace like Punisher, also more variety in characters.

I have been playing Undercover Cops recently and it's so damn good, excellent graphics, soundtrack and solid gameplay. Ninja Baseball Bat man is pretty good too, it feels like a Konami brawler but with good combat.

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>>2380439
>any other game like that
Try Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, it has similar combat and fast-pace like Punisher, also more variety in characters.

I have been playing Undercover Cops recently and it's so damn good, excellent graphics, soundtrack and solid gameplay. Ninja Baseball Bat man is pretty good too, it feels like a Konami brawler but with good combat.

>> No.2380535

Shadows Over Mystara will probably always be my favorite. I enjoyed the nods to it that Dragon's Crown gave to it, but I didn't enjoy DC as much as the old D&D spinoffs.

Tower of Doom was good, but a bit too stiff, and I'm glad Shadows fixed that

>> No.2380546

>>2380535
Tower of Doom may be more "stiff", but the gameplay is also more solid/strategic and the enemy AI is smarter. I like Shadow over Mystara but i felt the combat was too unchallenging and the enemies too dumb, it's really easy to corner your enemies with infinite juggle-combos all the time, and it gets boring after a while.

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>>2380546
I forgot, if you want a similar game to the D&D brawlers, try Lightbringer/Dungeon Magic, it's a really good, unique yet underrated isometric brawler by Taito.

>> No.2380560
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Guardian Heroes is a super fun beat em up by Treasure with a ton of characters and 4 players at once. I would love to get an online game going.

>> No.2380779

>>2380320
>>2380508

Mustapha's flying kick is OP

>> No.2380863
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Decided to try and branch out from the usual stuff and found this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAMNnVVB07M

Nothing world shaking but a good time was had. Be sure to go with the saturn version if you decide its worth a try. You get more moves and shit.

>> No.2380869

Violent Storm is my favorite beat-em-up, It's very fast-paced and has great music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNKFJ_U7ltY
Also, one of the bosses is an evil train conductor with an electrified ticket puncher.

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>>2380869
Fuck, forgot image.

>> No.2380879

>>2380869
like something out of a 90s cartoon

>> No.2380894
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This game had mostly nothing to do with the movie but man The soundtrack!

https://youtu.be/UBQ3Eh0yoZY?t=4m14s

>> No.2380905

I got SoR2 for the 3DS last week. The 3D effect is really neat, you can actually see how enemies are further in the background or closer to the foreground when they move around you. Also, it tires my eyes enough that I usually turn it off after round 2.

Working on a 1cc of Hard mode, got to round 8 inside the final elevator already, shouldn't take too long.

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>>2380894
That OST is pretty neat, but my favorite game from Natsume in the SNES must be Ninja Warriors Again, great gameplay and cool OST.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isD1zhpy3Pc

>> No.2381857

>>2380320
>Favorite games

Final Fight (Arcade)
River City Ransom (NES)
Shin Nekketsu Kouha Kunio Tachi-no Banka (SNES)
Shoudai Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun (SNES)
Dungeons & Dragons Shadow Over Mystara (Arcade)
Alien vs. Predator (Arcade)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Arcade)
X-Men (Arcade, 6 Player Version)
Vendetta (Arcade)
Double Dragon (Arcade)
Double Dragon II (NES)
Double Dragon Advance (GBA)
Final Fight 3 (SNES)

Runners-up would include MOST of the other Capcom arcade beat 'em ups.

>underrated games

Both Sonic Blast Man games are a mess, but they're still plenty fun.

>> No.2381862

Favorite beat 'em up developer? Capcom, Konami, Sega, Technos, or something else?

>> No.2381875

>>2381862
IREM and Capcom are my shit, although i really like Winkysoft's Guardians too, despite having some flaws. Konami's Violent Storm is pretty cool too, but i dislike most of their other beat 'em ups.

>> No.2382050

What are some underrated beat em ups?

>> No.2382059

>>2382050
Denjin Makai 2
Zero Team USA (avoid New Zero Team like the plague)
Gaiapolis
Knuckle Bash
Ninja Baseball Batman
Undercover Cops (avoid the world version like the plague, go for the jap version or Alpha Revision instead)

>> No.2382070

>>2382050
Hook by irem is good.

Big Fight is an interesting game where you play all the game in a cruiser, bosses join you when you beat them so you can select them as your character later.

Tough Turf is a Double Dragon inspired game by Sunsoft, with solid gameplay and bitchin soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knc7K3D77sY

Also this one >>2380551, very polished game, you can actually explore the levels and they have branching paths.

>> No.2382081

Glorious DD Crew

Calms the mind
Renews the spirit
Cleans the soul

Never was a game so amazing.

>> No.2382083

>>2382081
DD Crew is so stylish, but man the combat is fucking terrible, you can only hit one enemy at once, so it's broken and you rely on cheap stuff.

>> No.2382092
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>>2382050
Shadow Force, interesting and ambitious beat 'em up by Technos with SIX BUTTONS, it's pretty different t others because just one enemy attacks you while the others wait, and it has a "lock on" on that enemy, so it plays like a fighting game, it also has many moves. Also the gimmick of the game is that you can transform into your enemies.

>> No.2382109

>>2381857
Add Denjin Makai and Guardians to the favorites list. I forgot about those.

>> No.2382383

>>2380863
I recently played the ps1 version and the saturn version not only looks better but the audio is better also. Strange that it was released on the ps1 first but I guess technosoft liked working with the saturn more. The background 3d effect in stage 2 is missing in the ps1 version.

>> No.2382426

>>2382092
Doesn't that get boring? The whole point of beat em ups is crowd control, if only one of them attacks you at once, you could just stun lock the enemy over and over since there's nobody to interrupt you.

>> No.2383213

>>2382426
Yeah but the enemies can block and counter-attack, like i said it feels like a fighting game. You can block holding back too. It's not an amazing game, but it's interesting.

>> No.2383218

How do I git gud in Captain Commando?

>> No.2383224
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>no Ninja Baseball batman

>> No.2383229

>>2383218
1. Play with Mack
2. Play with Mack
3. Play with Mack
4. Learn the basic bosses strategies
5. Did i mention to play with Mack?

And of course the basic stuff from Capcom Brawlers like having the enemies in one side.

>> No.2383231

>>2383229
Oh and also, use Missile Launchers for crowd control. Your combo has longer reach if you hold forward, but it's slower too, so use it carefully.

>> No.2383336

>>2383218
Same way you git gud at any beat 'em up.

STEP 1: Learn EVERY move for AT LEAST one character. Memorize each move's approximate range, strength, combo potential, etc. so you know the best move to use in any given situation.
STEP 2: Learn EXACTLY how crowd control works in the game. If you master this you can generally play any beat 'em up well.
STEP 3: Learn as many combos as possible, assuming the game has combos aside from the default "press Attack three times in a row combo" that nearly every game in the genre has. Use the most powerful ones where possible and the quicker ones when you don't have time for long combos.

>> No.2383341

>>2380863
That looks great. Going to give that a go this week.

>> No.2383353

I don't understand the people that hype-up Sengoku 3 and Gaia Crusaders. Hands down the most boring beat em' ups I've ever had the misfortune of playing.

>> No.2383362

>>2383341
Make sure to grab a move list and use your lock direction/facing button to make the more complex moves possible without buffering through jumps and grabs

>> No.2383414

>>2383353
Sengoku 3's combat is interesting but not for me. Flashy combos aren't my style in a beat 'em up, and the grabs are so fucking weak and disappointing. Plus it just feels like a chore, because all the stages look the same and there is very little variety in enemy design, definitely not that good.

Still haven't tried Gaia Crusaders.

>> No.2383415

>>2383353
Literally no one but HG101 and HG101 drones hype-up those games.

>> No.2383427

>>2380320
best battle theme right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggQopFG5RVQ

>> No.2383449

>>2383336
>STEP 2: Learn EXACTLY how crowd control works in the game. If you master this you can generally play any beat 'em up well.
I get to that boat level in SoR and just get the shit kicked out of me, it's hopeless

Can't deal with the bosses either

I am bad

>> No.2383476

>>2383415
According to HG101 reviews Final Fight 3 is one of the best in the genre (best in series too), River City Ransom perfected the genre and Konami brawlers are the best, so their beat 'em ups articles are kek for me.

>> No.2383498

>>2383449
Normal difficulty?

Well, try playing with Axel and grandpappa the shit out of the bad guys. Also, scroll slowly in later levels so enemies appear one by one.

>> No.2383589

>>2380320
Favourites would be Streets of rage remake v5.0, the punisher,cadillacs and dinosaurs, undercover cops, golden axe revenge of death adder and denjin makai 2. Underrated definitely goes to The Gladiator - Road of the Sword a pgm arcade game that you can now check in mame and definitely should do.

>> No.2383647
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The Sailor Moon arcade (manufactured by Banpresto, responsible for the Denjin Makai series), is fantastic and seriously underrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Za7XOY_m08

>> No.2383683

>>2383647
>underrated
"underrated" is not the same word as "obscure"

>> No.2383690

>>2383647
I kinda liked it, but my problem is that the punch range is way too short, and you can walk while your characters do a combo, which is weird and ruins your combo.

>> No.2383696

>>2383415
They're OK games and S3 actually had a pretty large following online in the early years of NG emulation.

>>2383476
As worthless as that site is, FF3 is a fun game and the best attempt at bringing fighting game elements into the beat 'em up genre, RCR is stupidly fun and one of the best games of its kind, and Konami made several great beat 'em ups even if Capcom's kick the shit out of most of them.

>> No.2383704

>>2383647
The animation for special moves in that game is fucking crazy.

>> No.2383876

>>2383696
Final Fight 3 is decent, but it still doesn't compare to the arcade because of the SNES limitations. RCR is an interesting concept, but hardly the standard that most beat 'em ups use to measure. As for Konami beat 'em ups, the only great one IMO is Violent Storm and maybe Vendetta.

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Wish me luck /vr/.

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>>2384356
Well, just fuck.

>> No.2384746
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>there will never be an Armored Warriors sequel where you can do Battle Circuit style upgrades to the individual parts that you acquire along the way

>> No.2385952

>>2380869
same, the best beat em up

>> No.2385959

are there any other beatem ups with RPG like mechanics other than River City Ransom and it's spin off games?

>> No.2385962

>>2385959
Capcom's Dungeons & Dragon games both have minor RPG elements, though not quite like RCR.

>> No.2385969

>>2385962
I really only mentioned RCR because it's what everyone knows, really I'd more like to see XP and stuff in a fighting game rather than "EAT THING, NOW U STRONGER FOR GOOD"

>> No.2386340

>>2385959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKrYC5a85L8

Different to RCR tho, but still many RPG elements.

>> No.2386381

I was hoping someone could help me remember a beat'em up for the SNES.

From what i remember, you played as either a viking or a dwarf (big beard, axe, that sort of thing) and part of the game took place in a dark forest/burning village. I'm also reasonably certain there was tower climbing involved at some point.

Any ideas of what it could be based on that little information?

>> No.2386385
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>>2386381
Bebe's Kids
Probably The King of Dragons

>> No.2386390

>>2386385
Forgot to mention that i actually started playing King of Dragons a while back thinking that was it, it's sorta similar but the game i remember had darker/generally better graphics.

I still ended up playing through KoD though since it was amazingly fun, so i guess it ended well anyway.

>> No.2386410
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>>2386390
Knights of the Round?
Legend?

>> No.2386415

>>2386410
Legend could be it actually, looks close enough for it to be familiar at any rate. Going to give it a try, thanks!

>> No.2386556

>>2384746
damn you

>> No.2386586

>>2380320
Not enough Golden Axe.

Golden Axe 3 is underrated as fuck.

Streets of Rage 2 on GG is the best thing on the system.

Some Panzer Bandit feels good.

>> No.2386636

>>2386586
The Golden Axe sequels were never as strong as their predecessor to me and honestly they just felt like re-skins of Streets Of Rage 2 and 3

>> No.2386645

>>2386636
>>2386586
Revenge of Death Adder and The Duel are the only good Golden Axe games.

>> No.2386715

>>2384356
>dat hand

>> No.2388042
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I got lucky today, fuck this nigga.

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>>2386645

Yep.

>> No.2388291

>>2386645
>The Duel
>good

>> No.2388367

>>2388291
The Duel is actually pretty good. If you're familiar with Samurai Shodown type games then its pretty good, but if you just tried to play it like Street Fighter then it wouldn't do much for you.

>> No.2388380

>>2380320
I loved pretty much all beat'em ups but Armored Warriors, X-men Arcade, Simpsons Arcade, AvP, and Moonwalker are my favorites. Honorable mention for the combo systems in Maximum Carnage and Separation Anxiety for SNES.

>> No.2388418

>>2383647
No it's by Gazelle a former TOAPLAN offshoot same guys who did the infamous Knuckle Bash

>> No.2388420

>>2384746
Funny because you took my favorite game in the genre then combined it with the part I dislike the most of the game I wanted to .like.

>> No.2388425

While not really a beat em up Dark Seal 1,2 are pretty compatible if you liked Light Bringer

>> No.2388568

>defeat Shtrom Jr. in Captain Commando
>secret mechanical door leads you from an underground cave into... Ninjatown
Eh what?

>> No.2388978
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>>2388568
The level design in Captain Commando is so cool and refreshing, glad that Battle Circuit was similar.

>> No.2389020

>>2388978
STOP PARROTING E-CELEBS I BET YOU NEVER EVEN PLAYED CAPTAIN COMMANDO

>> No.2389025

>>2389020
you ok over there?

>> No.2389026

>>2389020
I have 1cc'd multiple times, fuck off.

>> No.2389027

>>2389025
BUSTA WORF

>> No.2389037

>>2389026
Nope, you never played it. Just like how people that think Castlevania 4 is easy have never played it. You're all just parroting what e-celebs say on YouTube.

>> No.2389039

>>2389037
you sound butt hurt

>> No.2389241

>>2383476
>River City Ransom perfected the genre
I like River City Ransom as much as any other NES nostalgiafag, but the game is a product of its platform's hardware limitations and it shows. Most of the game is just grind2win.

>> No.2389373

>>2389241
Yeah, and hardly any game later followed a similar formula (most were too busy making Final Fight clones), so it was hardly influential or important to the genre.

>> No.2389382

>>2389037
I beat it and I SUCK at old school video games. It's doable at even average skill levels with minimal effort.

>> No.2390201
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>tfw first time no-miss Final Fight
Feels good man.

>> No.2390223

>>2390201
>no-miss Final Fight

What?

>> No.2390240

>>2390223
Clear the game with 1 life, hard as fuck but glad i could make it.

>> No.2390267

>>2390201
Good work, anon.

>> No.2390298

>>2390240
Why didn't you just say "no death run" or something like that? I've never seen it called "no-miss" before.

Regardless though that's impressive.

>> No.2390305

>>2390298
Called No Miss in the world of arcade game vocabulary.

>> No.2390308

>>2390305
Are you sure that isn't an internet thing?

>> No.2390313

>>2390308
Nah when beating plenty of shooters the end stage result tables come up, you get points bonus for not dying and it always says

NO MISS BONUS.

>> No.2390321

>>2390313
OK, I guess it's a japanese thing?

>> No.2390348
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Batman Returns on SNES was a pretty fun beat down. Grabbing two clowns and slamming their heads together never got old.

And Bad Dudes. Shit who doesn't love Bad Dudes?

>> No.2390349

>>2390348
Bad dudes is pretty rad, it's Kung Fu on steroid . The NES version is kinda choppy though, arcade is best.

>> No.2390746

>>2390313
Huh, always thought that was a bonus for not missing any enemies on a level in a shmup. And I've even played a few games that had No Miss bonuses- turns out I was wrong and I just lost no lives while coincidentally also killing everything.

>> No.2390791

>>2390321
>>2390746
Pretty much. A "miss" is Japanglish for losing a life in an arcade game. I've seen the term used a few times in the localized Konami and Namco arcade compilations for the Nintendo DS.

>> No.2390826

>>2390746
If a shooting game has a bonus for number of enemies shot down, it's usually called a "hit rate"

>> No.2392971

>>2383647
That scene from the evil queen's POV is pretty baller.

>> No.2393003

>>2383647
>Denjin Makai


WinkySoft made that and Guardians.

Strange how these oddball devs took over the genre when beat em ups started to falter in development.

>> No.2394635

Not really retro but what do you guys think of Dragons Crown outside of the whole feisty design and beautiful visuals.

>> No.2394786

Got this game off UG before it died and figured you guys would enjoy it. It's a really hard to find beat em up that was released on the Genesis in 99, plays a lot like the fantasy themed Capcom beat em ups.

Here's a link explaining what the game is like

http://www.illusionware.it/megadrive/HK-SHUI%20HU%20FENG%20YUN%20ZHUAN.htm

And here is the game itself.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/e3ecdf2sj03hc5z/shui_hu_feng_yun_zhuan(unl)_(SKY_LEAGUE)[!].rar

>> No.2394809

>>2394635
its alright

>> No.2394815

>>2394786
Yeah, that game is well known among Genesis fans. A quality brawler for the system, feels like a mix of Knights of the Round (combat) with Warriors of Fate (plot).

>> No.2394930

>>2394809
I dislike the mentality of the vast majority of the online community though.
They dont even attempt to stay alive or have some kind of back up potions etc. Then they die for the 5th time and go PLS 20k GOLDS on continuing me, fuck off.

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My first 1cc on Hard. Didn't take me all that long and I still had several lives left when I won, so I guess Hardest is doable.

>> No.2395251

>>2395249
CLEAN YOUR FUCKING 3DS JESUS CHRIST.

>> No.2395476

>>2394930
Ugh.

Dragon's Crown looks like a decent game, but from what i've seen it's too long and RPG-heavy for my tastes.

>> No.2397156

>>2395476
It's not that RPG heavy just alot of fools around

>> No.2397197

>>2395476
Zach here, its alright. It kinda drags on, but the art and action itself is pretty fantastic. 4 player coop gets a little hectic tho

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>>>2385962
>I really only mentioned RCR because it's what everyone knows, really I'd more like to see XP and stuff in a fighting game rather than "EAT THING, NOW U STRONGER FOR GOOD"

Well someone already mentioned guardian heroes, i dont think thrre is much else, or better for that matter.

>>>2380320 (OP)
>Favourites would be Streets of rage remake v5.0, the punisher,cadillacs and dinosaurs, undercover cops, golden axe revenge of death adder and denjin makai 2. Underrated definitely goes to The Gladiator - Road of the Sword a pgm arcade game that you can now check in mame and definitely should do.

Man that sor remake is the best thing that has happened for years it is super good.

Aldo why nobody mentions the rushing beat series? I mean yeah the fitst one is super stiff and boring but the sequels are pretty good, just avoid the US releases and the cover artwork.

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Anyone remember Spikeout here?

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>>2395249
>3DS covered with dandruff flakes

Dude, scratch your head AWAY from your 3DS while gaming.

>> No.2398939

>>2398642
I don't like the Rushing beat series, it's not too different from other SNES brawlers.

>>2398672
I never played Spiketout but it looks good, how is the xbox version?

>> No.2398980

>>2398642
I played the hell out of Rushing Beat Shura and Ran.

Always play the Japanese versions of the games in this case. Brawl Brothers added some stupid maze levels for no real reason and The Peace Keepers killed off like half of your continues and removed some of the robot enemies from the game.

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Has anyone tried the Knights of Valour series? Fairly new-ish beat 'em ups that are one of the few to actually have neat combos and air chaining like a fighter instead of just button mashing.

>> No.2399018

>>2398642
I find it rather comical how some totalitarian looking officer became a black kid

>> No.2399091

>>2395249
are you the same faggot that posted his dandruff VITA on /vg/?

>> No.2399101

>>2398642
>That first Rushing Beat cover
Terry Bogard teams up with M.Bison to tear up the streets?

>> No.2400024

>>2399017
It's fine,, reminds me of Shadow over Mystara a bit, and that means no grabs, which is a shame.

>> No.2402890

Saving bump

>> No.2403078
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I want to 1cc this bad boy, any tip?

>> No.2403092

>>2403078
Choose the elf, is the best way to avoid heavy damages