/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2378371]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEr4QFSaHso

So it looks like Mario 64 romhacking has died. In its place, the new standard is to use Mario 64 DS. This is a good thing. Better graphics, better emulation. Mario 64 romhacks were a mess, and would never work on real hardware. Mario 64 DS romhacks though likely can.

What do you think of this new era of romhacking?

[Anonymous No.2378378]

>>2378371

Looks promising

[Anonymous No.2378384]

>>2378371
Maybe now we won't have to worry about hacks crapping out on flashcarts since everyone and their dog has one for the DS. Unlike N64 carts the DS ones are so dirt cheap there's no excuse for not owning one.

[Anonymous No.2378395]

I would assume the community knowledge and tools around 64 hacking would be pretty significant by now; does the same exist for the (much newer) DS version?

[Anonymous No.2378418]

>Star Road
god damn that was a terrible hack

[Anonymous No.2378426]

>>2378418
Care to suggest some alternatives? Otherwise it just seems like you're trolling.

[Anonymous No.2378473]

>>2378371
Does it control as shittily as the actual game in an emulator. Both the faux analog shit and the dpad were terrible.

[Anonymous No.2378506]

>>2378426

Not him, but as far as Mario 64 Romhacks go, it was unplayable due to the camera.

There was 0 thought put into how the camera would interact with the design of the levels, causing absolute confusion and frustration.

It works fine on very big, open levels, but it cannot be excused for a lot of the smaller levels. The camera is arguably one of the most important factors right after controls for a 3D game, and they fucked it up.

[Anonymous No.2378541]

>>2378506
Care to suggest some alternatives? Otherwise it just seems like you're trolling.

[Anonymous No.2378548]

>>2378426
Sometimes people have different opinions than you, anon. Having a different opinion doesn't mean someone is trolling.

[Anonymous No.2380002]

Skelux is remaking his hack in the 64DS engine, which will be considered the "final" release of that hack. Afterwards he's returning to the planned Star Road 2.

[Anonymous No.2380004]

>>2378473
the only levels that were much harder were tick tock clock and the last bowser level unless you were bad at mario 64 in the first place

[Anonymous No.2380890]

What tools are used for SM64/SM64DS romhacking? I wouldn't mind messing with the program a little bit.

[Anonymous No.2381598]

>>2378548
>opinion
>this game is terrible
>why is it terrible anon
>SHUT UP PEOPLE JUST HAVE OPINIONS OKAY ANON

[Anonymous No.2381604]

>>2381598
Turns out people don't have to defend their tastes. And you don't have to get offended by them.

[Anonymous No.2381605]

>>2378506
Yeah, the readme file said "Set the Camera to Mario Mode"

[Anonymous No.2381607]

>>2381604
I don't understand why you'd talk and say your tastes if you don't want to talk about your tastes.

Watch this and tell me how it makes you feel.

You're wrong.

[Anonymous No.2381613]

>>2378548
You seem like you're trolling anon. You can appear to be trolling without actually trolling if you're stupid enough.

[Anonymous No.2381636]

>>2378506
Here you see someone who can't play Mario 64 and therefore shouldn't be giving an opinion about Star Road.

Yeah, the camera in SR was pretty bad, but it didn't render the game "unplayable". Mario 64 had some issues with camera and they were doubled in SR, but if you knew what you're doing, you wouldn't have much of a hard time. Controlling the camera end up being part of the gameplay when it comes to Mario 64.

[Anonymous No.2381654]

People are going to have to come to agreement to just drop the bottom screen, because it was just fucking awful trying to watch that.

[Anonymous No.2383806]

>>2378384
I had always theorized that the N64 emulators of today would be in a state much like ZSNES, where you still need to have it around for SMW hacks due to something that only worked well with it.

I approve using the DS version. Not only is it better emulation but there's more you can do with it, thanks to new characters and the like.

[Anonymous No.2384145]

You mean I can play as Luigi in my Mario 64 romhacks without it being a shitty texture hack or Mario stretched out to look like the green spaghetti he shits out every morning?

I've dreamed of this day.

[Anonymous No.2385987]

>>2378371
Is this bait?

Mario64DS uses a fucking Dpad which therefore immediately makes it a worse option. Not to mention the physics.

>muh graphics
are you retarded?

>playable characters
legitimate point

>better emulation
You mean by the DS emulator that crashes when you want to upscale?
>>B-BUT YOU JUST MADE FUN OF GRAPHICS
shut up, fag

>more shit in general
legitimate point

[Anonymous No.2385996]

I will miss having good analog control over the character.

[Anonymous No.2386152]

>>2385987
>>2385996
The touch screen is analog control, technically.

[Anonymous No.2386368]

>>2381636

I played the fuck out of the game of the 64, and even finished the DS version with a D-pad twice.

There's logic to the camera that follows you around the level, to some degree. There's none in star road.

[Anonymous No.2386379]

>>2385987
Thanks for making me read that in his voice.

[Anonymous No.2387306]

>>2386152
Is it possible to whip up something that ties an analog stick to the touchscreen in such a way as to play with analog?

[Anonymous No.2388027]

>>2385987
>You mean by the DS emulator that crashes when you want to upscale?
Not sure what you're talking about. DeSmuME's upscaler seems to work fine. There's even a fork that lets you raise the internal resolution, although not at a playable speed on my machine.