/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2357648]

So /vr/, what is THE most stacked retro console?

I'm talking about the one that has the BEST games the BEST looking graphics the BEST look the BEST controller

I want all of those hot opinions from each of you


>NES/Famicom all day baby

[Anonymous No.2357650]

>I'm talking about the one that has the BEST games the BEST looking graphics the BEST look the BEST controller
Probably N64.

[Anonymous No.2357651]

>>2357648
PC Engine

[Anonymous No.2357658]

>>2357648
They don't call it the SUPER NES for nothing, OP.

[Anonymous No.2357830]

>>2357648
>console localisation

MUH BURGER LAND BURGER BURGER FAT BURGER WITH BIG BURGER CARTRIDGES.

what the fuck happened.

[Anonymous No.2357835]

>>2357648
>the one
>picks two
I knew this was going to be bad after the first sentence but didn't realize just how bad until the end.
Hopefully some day you'll understand that there isn't and doesn't have to be at "best" at everything.

[Anonymous No.2357837]

>>2357830

You sound like a kid that want to stir people into a flaming argument.
I'm not american, but you comment just goes into the trash.

[Anonymous No.2357881]

>>2357648
NeoGeo

Can't think of a bad Neo Geo game, graphics were arcade quality, sleek black console and the CD version looks really nice too, and the controllers are made by Neo Geo and are pretty much the only thing that can rival the Saturns.

Granted it didn't have a lot of games and cost so damn much nobody had one, but overall outside of price I can't really say it didn't a single thing wrong.

[Anonymous No.2357925]

>>2357648
depending on what you are looking for, either the SNES or the Neo Geo in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2357927]

>>2357835
the NES and Famicom are essentially the same system you dork. no one can possibly be this autistic, can they?

[Anonymous No.2357928]

Super FUCKING Famicom

[Anonymous No.2357929]

>>2357648
Too many genres just weren't done or were only done poorly/infrequently on the NES. SNES has something - loads of somethings - for any tastes.

[Anonymous No.2357931]

>>2357881
Neo Geo is mostly arcade style games though (obviously) which is all that everyone wants out of a system, that is why I mentioned both the SNES and Neo Geo, despite that maybe cheating a bit, but it covers the best of both worlds.

[Anonymous No.2357935]

>>2357931
>>2357881
oh, and by the way, what the hell are you talking about, it had a ton of games, the system it's self wasn't in production for very long but games kept on being made regardless, every time there was an official neo geo arcade game made there was a home system version to go along with it, even well after the system's initial life span.

[Anonymous No.2357938]

>>2357935
Well I'm not talking Virtualboy or 32x tiny library, but I don't recall it have the four figure you'll never play them all in your life size library of the PS1 either.

[Anonymous No.2357939]

>>2357931
>is
I obviously meant isn't

[Anonymous No.2357940]

>>2357938
ah, ok, I thought you did mean virtualboy/32x/atari 7800 small, mostly because that's a misconception I have seen a lot.

[Anonymous No.2357941]

PS4

[Anonymous No.2357971]

>>2357648
>BEST looking graphics

That have aged well? Probably SNES.

>BEST games the BEST look the BEST controller

NES maybe?

[Anonymous No.2357973]

>>2357651
this is a fair choice. I can't think of a genre that pc-engine is lacking in

[Anonymous No.2358002]

>>2357973
TG-16/whateveryouwannacallit is just shooters and a few misc. other noteworthy titles. HUGELY deficient in most genres.

[Anonymous No.2358083]

>>2358002
You don't get around much, do you?

[Anonymous No.2358106]

>>2358002
He didn't call it the pc engine to be kawaii or some shit, there is a substantial difference between the libraries of the pc engine and tg16.

[Anonymous No.2358139]

>>2358002
you need some education on the system library. it's loaded with every 16-bit viable genre

[Anonymous No.2358167]

>>2357648
>not Genesis/Mega Drive.

[Anonymous No.2358185]

>>2358167
Though it's one of my favorite consoles of all time, it's lacking in some genres. RPGs majorly

[Anonymous No.2358191]

If you don't like Nintendo games or JRPGs the SNES fucking sucks.

The Mega Drive has action, games, platformers, shmups and some good JRPGs and adventure games. It's probably most well rounded retro system. The PC Engine is second. It's version of Ys I & II is quite possibly the best 16 bit game full stop in my opinion.

>>2358185

The SNES is lacking in everything but RPGs.

>>2358002

You're not even remotely familiar with the PC Engine's library are you?

[Anonymous No.2358205]

>>2358191
>PC Engine
>16-bit
It's an 8-bit system. It's the same as how the Jaguar is actually a 32-bit system.

[Anonymous No.2358234]

>>2358191
I've seen alot of SNES hate lately. it has the best pure platformers of 4th gen , and tons of good action games. I think the only area where it's really lacking is shooters . It has it's fair share of arcade style games, definitely not lacking.

[Anonymous No.2358236]

>>2358205

>semantics

16-bit, 4th gen, whatever.

[Anonymous No.2358267]

>>2357648
SNES/SFC does it all. SFC for controllers obviously. That god damn genius design. Some of the best platformers: Yoshi's Island, SMW, Castlevania 4, etc.
The first and arguably best metroidvania: Super Metroid.
Literally every classic RPG besides SaGa.
It even has J-shooters like Gradius III and Phalanx. If you want to get into retro gaming, i truly believe SNES is the first and sometimes only console you need.

[Anonymous No.2358334]

>>2357648
>THE most stacked retro console?
Stacking like this would take Nintendo AGES

[Anonymous No.2358357]

>>2358191
>If you don't like Nintendo games or JRPGs the SNES fucking sucks.
>The SNES is lacking in everything but RPGs.

SNES had the best library of fighters for its gen excluding only the Neo-Geo. It was also entirely sufficient in shmups once you included the japanese library, with a selection that made up in quality where it lacked in quantity in comparison to Genesis and especially TG-16. SNES was every bit on the level with Genesis for platformers, but neither came close to the NES, and they were both well ahead of TG-16. It had a quality selection of simulation games that might have paled in comparison to PC, but was easily better than any console of its generation. And while its racing game lineup might seem weak overall now, it was better than what was available on any dedicated gaming hardware up to that point.

It also was GREAT at, and vastly superior to any competing system for these genres:
>beat 'em ups
>pinball
>wrestling
>strategy
>puzzle

cont.

[Anonymous No.2358359]

>>2358357
The only areas where it REALLY fell short where some subgenres of sports and ESPECIALLY arcade-like side-scrolling action games ala Shinobi/Strider/Ninja Spirit/etc. Genesis trounced it on both, but even then people underestimate its sports game selection. If you break it down by sport the SNES wasn't that bad.
>football
This is where it really sucked. Genesis CRUSHED it here which was a huge problem in America.
>basketball
Lacked in quantity, but I'd actually take it over Genesis on account of superior versions of both a NBA Jams and Hangtime.
>golf
Lacking, though with a small few decent japan-only exclusives. Overall weak and easily surpassed by Genesis.
>tennis
Again, japan had it SLIGHTLY better, but still weak overall. Genesis wins here as well.
>baseball
Ahead of Genesis without even counting the japanese library. WAY better once you do count the japanese exclusive. Not even fucking close.
>fishing
Genesis sucked for this. SNES was actually pretty great. Doesn't matter that "lol only fishing who cares" because it was still better.
>sumo
Again, "lol sumo" and obviously no one's going to give a shit outside of japan, but it was slight leagues superior to any other system of its gen and arguably may have been the best sumo game system ever.
>soccer
This is debatable. International Superstar Soccer was better on SNES, plus there were a TON of japanese exclusives that had 4 player features. Genesis made up for this with FAR more licensed western releases. It's ultimately a toss-up here between the two.
>other sports
They both were worthless for any sport not listed above.

So really the only place the SNES came up short was arcade-y action and SOME sports.

[Anonymous No.2358363]

>>2358334
that system is YOKED bro!

[Anonymous No.2358364]

>>2358359
>slight leagues superior

I have no idea why I typed "slight" in there.

[Anonymous No.2358376]

>>2357835
I doubt op saw it as posting 2 different consoles since nes and famicom are the same minus a few games.

Well I guess the nes is better in my eyes since famicom has one controller built into the system and no other ports but that's not even much of a difference

[Anonymous No.2358401]

>>2357881
The games were arcade quality because it's the same hardware as the Neo Geo arcade system.

[Anonymous No.2358403]

>>2358359
>lol only fishing who cares

HEY !
Fishing is cool.

[Anonymous No.2358943]

>>2357927
>BEST look
Yeah. They totally look the same.
Do you even know what an autist is or is mommy waiting until you're older to break the news to you?

[Anonymous No.2358949]

>>2357648
Why the fuck did our NES looked like a brick while the Famicom actually looked like a videogame?

[Anonymous No.2359019]

>>2357929
Agreed. SNES takes it overall.

[Anonymous No.2359029]

>>2358357
>>2358359
Very good assessment. The Genesis is a great console too but I think the SNES has the overall better library.

[Anonymous No.2359040]

>>2358949
Because Atari proved video games unprofitable in the US so the NES needed to look like a VCR

[Anonymous No.2359047]

>>2359040
Yep. It was a really smart design decision on Nintendo's part.

[Anonymous No.2359060]

>>2358357
>>2358359
>best library of fighters
>beat 'em up
Can't top SoR2/3
>Pinball
Can't top Devil's Crash for PCE/MD
>Wrestling
Not aware of this genre, but at least in the west WWF Arcade was a lot better on genesis.
>Strategy
Can't top Dune II and Herzog Zwei
>Puzzle
Good, but Genesis had arcade perfect ports of Puyo Puyo 1/2 and Columns.
>Basketball
>superior version of NBA Jam
Top kek, the genesis version has a lot more and better commentaries, in game music and debatably better AI/gameplay, the SNES doesn't even have the "Welcome to NBA Jam" at the beginning.
>Fighters
Genesis had better ports of SamSho and Fatal Fury, pretty important games. SNES had Killer Instinct though, too bad Yu-Yu Hakusho wasn't localized because it's a lot more enjoyable IMO.

Personally i think both are great consoles on their own, but

[Anonymous No.2359063]

>>2359060
>but
but ultimately i think the genesis is a better console for action-oriented games.

[Anonymous No.2359068]

>>2359060
The SNES had better ports of the various Street Fighter II releases and Mortal Kombat starting with MKII. Those were huge at the time.

[Anonymous No.2359076]

>>2359068
I didn't named SF2 because the differences are marginal, as oppossed to Fatal Fury and Samurai Shodown where the differences were HUGE and genesis version was obviously better.

As for MK series, it depends on the game.

MK1 played better on genesis, but looked better on SNES, also Genesis version had the blood/fatality gimmick which was huge at the time.

MK2 was obviously a lot better on SNES due to a lot cut content in the genesis version

MK3 is pretty much the same on both, SNES version looks slightly better, Genesis version has better resolution, genesis version has some very slight slowdowns.

UMK3 was better on genesis because it had 7 more stages than the genesis version, other differences were marginal, same engine as MK3.

[Anonymous No.2359079]

>>2359060
Best wrestling is either Fire Pro or AKI's N64 offerings. My personal leaning is toward the latter.

[Anonymous No.2359081]

>>2359076
>genesis version has some very slight slowdowns.
I meant SNES version.

[Anonymous No.2359086]

>>2359076
>genesis version has some very slight slowdowns.
I meant SNES version.
>UMK3 was better on genesis because it had 7 more stages than the SNES version
fix'd

[Anonymous No.2359091]

Totally depends on what you think "best" is, when it comes to games, graphics, etc.

I think SNES probably takes it, takes all the good of the NES, and expands upon it.

SNES Controller was the basis for pretty much 4 generations of playstation, and generally the modern controller.

PS1 has a lot of great games, and probably more then the SNES and N64 combined, but theres also a lot of shit and some games are kind of in that awkward early 3d phase.

[Anonymous No.2359094]

>>2359076
>>2359060
MK2 and NBA Jam also had superior versions on 32X, if you count those as being "Genesis" games.

[Anonymous No.2359098]

>>2359094
MK 2 isn't superior on the 32x. SNES is the best console port of that game.

[Anonymous No.2359138]

>>2357648
PS1, don't forget about this one.

[Anonymous No.2359147]

>>2359098
It's debatable. The 32x version had far better sprites and animation while the SNES had better backgrounds.

But no, the best console port would be the 360/PS3 version.

[Anonymous No.2359283]

>>2357650
People say this, but I don't get the appeal of the N64 as a console itself anymore. Honestly, it fell short in so much for what it did right. There are like 15 games I would need in my library but easy 40+ on NES and the SNES.

In the transition to 3D there were so many shitty games, and shitty games in established franchises even. I fucking loved the N64 when I was younger, but I don't really revere it like I used to. It has barely any legs to stand on anymore.

Anyway, SNES is best console of all time. No doubt.

[Anonymous No.2359502]

>>2358359
>They both were worthless for any sport not listed above.

Depends on what you consider a sport. If you count "real life game simulations" as being in the sports genre then there's also,
>bowling
Basically tied between SNES and Genesis. Only like one quality game a piece.
>pool/billiards
SNES wins out here by merit of having everything Genesis has and more.
>hockey
Obviously forgot about this since it's obviously a sport and there were plenty of games of it. Genesis utterly obliterates SNES on this one. No contest.
>horse racing
Not that anyone cares, but SNES had a truckload of these in japan while Genesis had next to nothing. SNES wins if only by merit of not really having any competition.

Just to address some genres that were left out of these posts,
>graphical adventure
Genesis was better. SNES had a few quality ones, but Genesis had like twice as much stuff.
>action adventure
SNES BY FAR. Zelda, Metroid, etc.
>visual novel
Only of any value if you can read moonrunes, but still...
>gambling
SNES had literally hundreds of them, several of them fairly well made games for what they were. Genesis by comparison had paltry selection.
>video board games
See above. SNES had Itadaki Street, Tower Dream, Fight da Pon!, and dozens of others though only a few were worth playing. Genesis by comparison had slightly more than jack squat.

[Anonymous No.2359628]

>>2358401
Kind of the point of 'BEST graphics' from the OP. And for that matter in many ways best games as well since they are shit ports.

[Anonymous No.2359753]

>>2359502
Also left out light gun games. The 16-bit systems were weak for this in comparison to the NES, but overall I'd give the edge to the SNES just slightly ahead of the Genesis by merit of sheer quantity.

[Anonymous No.2359832]

>>2359753
I give the advantage to the Genesis because the official gun wasn't an awful cumbersome piece of shit. Plus it had Lethal Enforcers 2.

[Anonymous No.2359842]

>>2357648
I have to go with the NES. To me, it's the gold standard against which all other systems games are measured.

[Anonymous No.2359887]

if its not the nes/snes then its the ps1

[Anonymous No.2359929]

>>2357648
I don't know if it counts, but it should.

[Anonymous No.2360039]

As a big fan of 2D RPGs and platformers, the SNES is the shit.

[Anonymous No.2361489]

>>2357928
Looks so plain. Sorry bro, but it's got to be pic related

[Anonymous No.2361536]

>most stacked retro console

[Anonymous No.2361550]

>>2361536
Man, I fucking love the Genesis stack jokes.

[Anonymous No.2361583]

>>2361550

You can stack essentially unlimited addons and adapters if you have something to support the tower with, but >>2361536 is the tallest functional stack I know of.

[Anonymous No.2361674]

>>2361536
>no megadisk
why not just emulate

[Anonymous No.2361676]

Genesis.

Or SMS. Or >>2357651.

[Anonymous No.2361680]

>>2359283

I like everything about the N64 except the library. Not to say it doesn't have good games, but it's lacking compared to the others.

[Anonymous No.2361781]

Genesis
I'm not even a SEGA fanboy but it whoops the SNES by a mile despite being technologically inferior

[Anonymous No.2361786]

>>2361781
It's always fun to hear SNES fanboys try and defend their terrible system.
>muh JRPG trash
>muh Super Metroid
>muh F-zero and Mario Kart
>muh Marios
That's it. That's all the fucking console had worth playing. Sanic beat Mario, Virtua Racing was more visually impressive than both F-zero and Mario Kart, and Super Metroid was the one big title they had worth owning. Maybe Yoshi's Island too, if you're really reaching.

There's no question that the NES wrecked the Master System, but Sega dominated the 16 bit era with the games people actually wanted. Decent arcade ports, and a host of innovative gameplay ideas.

[Anonymous No.2361810]

Nintenbabby here. I don't know shit about the Genesis. What are the essentials?

[Anonymous No.2361812]

>>2361680
>I like everything about the N64 except the library
i like everything about ford except their cars

[Anonymous No.2361826]

>>2361812

His point was poorly phrased.
>I like everything about the N64 exceot from the limited size of the library

[Anonymous No.2361835]

>>2361786
I certainly wouldn't call the SNES terrible but I do sort of agree with you. The SNES seems like Nintendo's warm up for the N64, a limited library means what good games it did have are massively overrated.

[Anonymous No.2361836]

>>2361810
Sonic 1 and 2 (3 and "& Knuckles" are debatable)
Streets of Rage 1 and 2
Gunstar Heroes
Alien Soldier
Contra - Hard Corps
Castlevania Bloodlines
MUSHA

and probably some shooters and platformers and some would argue Phantasy Star and/or Shining Force.

[Anonymous No.2361846]

>>2361786
>That's it. That's all the fucking console had worth playing.
>>2361835
>limited library

See: >>2358357 >>2358359 >>2359502 >>2359753

Even without getting into the japan-only titles, the SNES had a strong library. The fact that it came up short in a few areas doesn't change that, especially since the Genesis had the same problem (albeit in regards to mostly different genres).

But the main reason why the SNES is more well regarded in the age of the internet is because of emulation. When that became big the west found out that it had been screwed out of a truckload of high quality titles. That's why the Genesis didn't do SHIT in japan. Because if you count all the games they got then the SNES makes the Genesis library look slim by comparison.

[Anonymous No.2361852]

>>2359502
>>visual novel
>Only of any value if you can read moonrunes, but still...

I just realized that I fucked this up. I meant to say SNES was better since it had a few of these and Genesis had nothing. The problem of them all being in japanese and untranslated still obviously exists though.

[Anonymous No.2361865]

>>2361846
>When that became big the west found out that it had been screwed out of a truckload of high quality titles
Yeah, Magical Pop'n and Goemon really saved the system in Japan.

You don't know what you're talking about. It's more highly regarded because Genesis emulation was fucking awful for years, and there are a metric ton of Nintenyearolds on the internet who couldn't handle the NES so they piled on the SNES as their "so retro" system of choice.

[Anonymous No.2361870]

>>2361846
>the SNES makes the Genesis library look slim by comparison

I like the SNES but Jesus Christ no. Also I'm curious as to what Japan only titles make the SNES so great, looking around the Internet it seems everyone who jerks off to the SNES only cares about the exact same handful of ga,es that were released in the west.

[Anonymous No.2361872]

>>2361846
>But the main reason why the SNES is more well regarded in the age of the internet is because

of manchild e-celebs who are fanboys and the drooling 15 year olds who take everything they say as gospel?

[Anonymous No.2361945]

>>2361865
Except none of that's true.

>>2361870
There are literally dozens of RPGs, plus the shumps library doubles in size, plus Clock Tower, Gundam Endless Duel, some beat 'em ups including a pair of Kunio titles and Ghost Chaser Densei, a few strategy games like Super Famicom Wars and BB Gun among others, Umihara Kawase, several platformers including the Goemons among others, a number of puzzle games like Magic Drop and Taisen Puzzle Dama among several others, Radical Dreamers (if you're into visual novels), Famicom Tantei Club Part II, F-Zero Queens Circuit (or whatever the fuck it was called), Star Fox 2, The Firemen, a few pinball games (Battle Pinball, Jaki Crush, and Super Pinball 2 are all excellent), Super Bomberman 3-5, TONS of wrestling games especially the many Fire Pro releases, some arcade-y miscellanea like Super Tekkyu Fight or Sanrio World Smash Ball, some sports miscellanea (just off the top of my head there was a Super Dodge Ball game and the multitude of sequels to Super Baseball Simulator 1.000).

That's not even listing all the specific titles and I'm probably forgetting some shit even.

[Anonymous No.2361946]

Neo Geo. Might be kind of cheating because it's really an arcade system, but it was a beast of a machine.

[Anonymous No.2361968]

>>2361945
So, what you're saying is that most of the SNES's good titles were Japan only, right?

[Anonymous No.2361996]

>>2361968
I'm saying a ridiculously high percentage of them were. Probably not the majority, though I've never bothered to count, so...

But it's gotta be pretty high either way.

[Anonymous No.2362005]

>>2361846
>That's why the Genesis didn't do SHIT in japan. Because if you count all the games they got then the SNES makes the Genesis library look slim by comparison.
No, it's because all the japs cared about back then was jRPGs. That's why genesis did well in the west, no one gave a shit about that boring genre.

[Anonymous No.2362009]

>>2362005
Shmups, platformers, beat 'em ups, sports, and fighters all sold gangbusters in japan back then. Plus SNES had the niche stuff that japan wanted like visual novels, pachinko, strategy, etc. It was LOADED from a japanese perspective.

[Anonymous No.2362020]

>>2362009
They never sold as well as jRPGs, especially beat 'em ups or shooters, which sold decently in the early days but no one cared about them later.

The SNES has plenty of stuff, but it lacked in action games, not necessarily in quantity, but quality, even the best action games lacked in fast-pace and challenge compared to arcade/genesis titles.

[Anonymous No.2362028]

>>2362020
Yeah, as has been mentioned several times, the SNES had a baffling dearth of side-scrolling action titles in comparison to the NES and even its competitor the Genesis. If you wanted games like Ninja Gaiden or Shinobi that gen then you were pretty much shit outta luck on the SNES.

And it should be noted that platformers DID sell as well as RPGs in japan, as did fighters and the most popular sports series (generally a phenomenon relegated to baseball and soccer). Some of the shumps and beat 'em ups moved those numbers as well (Twinbee and Final Fight were HUGE in japan).

[Anonymous No.2362059]

>>2362028
>If you wanted games like Ninja Gaiden or Shinobi that gen then you were pretty much shit outta luck on the SNES.
Same with beat 'em ups or shooters, there were some good ones, but overall the quality wasn't on par with top tier titles from other patforms. Fighting games were fine because they didn't demand a very powerful hardware overall.

What non-nintendo platformer did sell that well tho. I mean just compare Megaman X2/X3 or even Super Metroid to Dragon Quest 6 in japan.

[Anonymous No.2362081]

>>2362059
>Same with beat 'em ups or shooters, there were some good ones, but overall the quality wasn't on par with top tier titles from other patforms.

The shooter library was FAR better in japan than it was in the west. Twinbee, a trio of Parodius games, Flying Hero, Cotton, Macross, Cosmo Gang the Video, Space Invaders, plus the American releases like Gradius 3, Axelay, UN Squadron, Aerofighters, Space Megaforce... Am I forgetting anything? It held up even if it had less than Genesis. But TG-16 was head and shoulders above both in terms of quality and quantity either way.

And you're really underselling the beat 'em up library. TMNT, Final Fight 1-3 (even if 1 was downgraded), a couple Kunio games, Sonic Blast Man 1 and 2, Knights of the Round, King of Dragons, Captain Commando, Undercover Cops, Shonen Ninja Sasuke, Ghost Chaser Densei, Combatribes, Ninja Warriors, Double Dragon, and... I think that covers most of the top stuff? A I forgetting anything? There were a few middle-of-the-road titles as well of course.

The Genesis by comparison had Streets of Rage 1 and 2, the japanese version of Streets of Rage 3, Golden Axe 1-3, a half baked port of TMNT, and a shit port of Punisher. Anything else? TG-16 had jack crap, or not much more than it at least.

SNES wins out for both quality and quantity for beat 'em ups. Unless you just REALLY like SoR and GA I don't see how there's even any debate over this.

[Anonymous No.2362129]

>>2362081
As i said, i meant quality, not necessarily quantity, most of those games are too slow-paced, just compare Pop'n Twinbee to Yahho, or Space Megaforce to Zanac or MUSHA. Gradius III had much more slowdowns than even the famicom Gradius games. Aero Fighters is a good port though.

As for beat 'em ups, aside from Ninja Warriors and that fine King of Dragons port (which still suffered from tons of slowdows in co-op), the library does nothing for me. Non of those games are as good as any of the SoR games because all of them were very unchallenging slow-paced games with 3-4 enemies max.
-Undercover Cops is a great arcade game, the port is really sad gameplay-wise because it can't handle more than 2 enemies on screen, also, no co-op.
-Turtles in Time is a easy and basic beat 'em up, not a lot to write about it, not a lot of replayability either.
-Final Fight games are again, piss-easy (especially 2 and 3) with max 3 enemies on screen, they fucked up all that was good about the arcade.
-Captain Commando port is terrible, the combat system feels broken and the combos slower, there are only 3 enemies on screen despite the sprites being microscopic, also, awful music and no-mechas/few weapons.
-Denjin Makai is actually a pretty decent port, but still doesn't compare to the mayhem in the arcade due to much reduced difficulty and only 4 enemies on screen.

SoR games were the best console brawlers because they were the only to deliver an arcade-quality, +6 enemies on screen, high resolution, no-slowdowns, deep gameplay.

And yes, you are forgetting Alien Storm, Mazin Saga and a pretty decent Double Dragon port, quite fun games with up to 6-7 enemies on screen, a very important aspect in beat 'em ups that 99% SNES brawlers failed at.

There are others quite decent brawlers like Comix Zone, Splatterhouse 3, Power Rangers the movie, Two Crude Dudes, Growl, DJ Boy etc, some of them provided a quite decent challenge compared to a lot of SNES brawlers.

[Anonymous No.2362134]

>>2362129
>a pretty decent Double Dragon port

That REALLY sucked.

And yeah I forgot Splatterhouse 3. Never cared about Mazin Saga. Comix Zone was OK. Alien Storm was kinda just an action game with a beat 'em up style playing field in my view, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.2362139]

>>2362134
The only thing wrong with the port was that the enemies were too fast, but it's still fun, there is a romhack to fix enemies speed. It has actual advantages over the arcade like much fewer slowdowns, higher resolution and some arguably better graphics. The arcade slowdowns as shit when there are 3 enemies on screen.

[Anonymous No.2362151]

>>2357927
The NES has a lot of crap in its library, but if you include Japanese stuff, it has far more garbage than gold.

[Anonymous No.2362203]

>>2361786

[Anonymous No.2362205]

>>2362203
Webcomics are literally never funny. And the console wars is more revisionism than fact.

[Anonymous No.2362206]

>>2362081
>the japanese version of Streets of Rage 3
Why not the US? just because you want to beat up the fag?

[Anonymous No.2362213]

>>2362203
If a pair of ignorant jokes like those two are your argument you really are fucked.

[Anonymous No.2362216]

>>2361786
>>2362203
>we had sonic and sonic and sonic and sonic

No you moron, you had Streets of Rage 2 and Mortal Kombat with blood intact and Virtua Racing and Gunstar Heroes.

I hate it how a console is only remembered for the games that the company keeps releasing TODAY.

Especially since Sega has this huge gigantic selection of great IPs and does fuck-all with them.

[Anonymous No.2362225]

>>2362206
The japanese Bare Knuckle 3 has cutscenes removed from the US version.

[Anonymous No.2362243]

>>2362225
That doesn't make it a worse game gameplay-wise though, it's a beat 'em up after all.

[Anonymous No.2362251]

>>2362206
SoR3 is just not that great of a game.

>>2362243
It was much worse gameplay wise.

[Anonymous No.2362256]

>>2362251
What? it was the same game, just slightly harder, what are you smoking.

And it's a fine game, as far as console brawlers go it's one of the best.

[Anonymous No.2362267]

>>2362256
Evasion technique moves different distances, boss health bars are dramatically different lengths, enemies take different amounts of damage, etc.

SoR3 has shit balance that ruins the game. It's nothing more than SoR2 but inferior in every way.

BK3 is basically SoR2 with a different cast, new bosses, etc. Actually a worthy sequel. The western version is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.2362276]

>>2362267
>Evasion technique moves different distances,
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing since it was pretty short in BK3
>boss health bars are dramatically different lengths, enemies take different amounts of damage, etc.
Oh so you didn't like SoR3 because it was too hard for you? okay, i think the difficultly is fair in normal, BK3 is the one that feels like a waste of time on Normal due to how easy it is.

[Anonymous No.2362317]

>>2362276
SoR2's highest difficulty setting (was it "mania"?) is "hard". SoR3 is UNBALANCED. There's a HUGE difference.

[Anonymous No.2362328]

>>2362317
SoR3 on normal isn't near as hard as many arcade brawlers. The difference is that SoR3's normal actually means Normal, and Hard actually means Hard. In BK3 Normal means easy and Very Hard means Normal.

Even if you think SoR3 is too hard for you, there is always easy mode.

[Razz No.2362431]

>>2362216
I'm surprised Genesis fans keep bringing up the whole MK thing when MK2 was easily the best retro MK game and the SNES version was easily the best port of it.

Also the whole blood thing is pretty irrelevant when SNES version didn't require anyone to buy new controllers to play it.

[Anonymous No.2362512]

>>2362431
What makes the SNES version better than the XBLA/PSN version?

Yes, it still counts as /vr/. It's an old game.

[Anonymous No.2364479]

>>2357648
Genesis because of that sweet ass FM.