What does /vr/ think of the Retron 5, or multisystem clones in general? I don't use my Xbox One so I'm thinking about selling it to buy one.

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Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:37:35 2015 No.2336024 [Reply] [Original]

What does /vr/ think of the Retron 5, or multisystem clones in general? I don't use my Xbox One so I'm thinking about selling it to buy one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:42:28 2015 No.2336034 >>2336024 The highest retron system I'd go for is the Retron 3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:42:34 2015 No.2336035 use the xbox as an emulator

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:47:28 2015 No.2336045 It's great, I play it with my wife all the time.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:49:30 2015 No.2336046

I've heard good things about the Retron 5 from people that actually own it but personally I don't think I'd get one of those multisystem consoles. I heard a while back that they can be a bit finicky with saves but firmware updates probably fixed that by now. You can probably find some decent reviews of it on Youtube.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:49:43 2015 No.2336047 It gives me a retro feel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:50:24 2015 No.2336050 File: 470 KB, 1280x606, vlcsnap-2011-03-06-17h48m11s228.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > What does /vr/ think of the Retron 5 I wonder how many times i've read those words

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 12:56:26 2015 No.2336058 >>2336050 The thread pops up at least once a day

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:04:35 2015 No.2336065 >>2336050 It's become a thing. >>2336045 I was actually just trying to search the archives for the first instance of that "my wife and I" shill for the Retron but so far I haven't nailed it down. Shit's getting the be its own special /vr/ meme

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:06:22 2015 No.2336071 >>2336024 It should be an auto-ban with no warning

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:10:45 2015 No.2336080 >>2336024 I was thinking of getting it to play my gba games. But it has all of the compatibility problems of an emulator. Watch Classic Game Room review of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:19:54 2015 No.2336087 >>2336080 For the price of a Retron 5 couldn't you buy a Gamecube, GBA player with disc and the component cable? I know both of those accessories are way overpriced but so is Retron.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:24:30 2015 No.2336093 >>2336024 How do these output video? Tell me it at least offers component...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:29:33 2015 No.2336105 I think it's funny that 2 AVGN threads have been deleted while this thread has been alive. But for some reason the janitor is leaving it up. Janitor is trolling the shit out of this board man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:30:09 2015 No.2336107 >>2336087 I should say the reason why I didn't buy one is that I still have my GameCube and gba player. I was just disappointed when I learned the batteries in my pokemon cartridges were dead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:30:11 2015 No.2336108 File: 232 KB, 648x4400, 1413399686333.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] in b4 me and my wife Anyway when someone makes a system like Retron 5 that runs the games using it's own hardware instead of emulating them I'm going to buy one.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:42:48 2015 No.2336123
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>>2336024
Hi op,Retron 5 changed my life!

Because I have multiple /vr/ consoles games collections,i couldn't find a woman that share my love for multiple supports and had to become a Mormon so i could marry as many wives as the number of consoles i have,it was fun but physically and financially exhausting.
Until the Retron 5 got released,So i quickly divorced all of them and found one who had a Retron 5 too.

Now thanks to Retron5 ,i need only one wife to play video games with and I love it (the retron5 i mean).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:43:23 2015 No.2336124 They're shit. Buy the real consoles and get flash carts (Everdrive, etc.)

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:47:09 2015 No.2336128

>>2336107
Then definitely just bite the bullet and shell out the $100 for the component cable for the GC. It actually has a digital encoder in the cable (to push the manufacturing costs for the console down) which is why it's so rare.

There's literally no reason to buy something like the Retron 5. For the most part, one should either go full-authentic or full-emulation although there is some narrow niche for CHEAP clone and plug-n-play consoles.

Daily reminder that a Gamestick or Wii can be bought for like $25 and modded to do everything Retron 5 does and lots more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 13:57:11 2015 No.2336136 why would you sell Xbox One, to buy retron, It's like 20 bucks

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 14:45:16 2015 No.2336215 >>2336128 > $100 for the component cable for the GC. Component cables are going for closer to $300. There is a guy or two about to make some clone cables though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 15:15:27 2015 No.2336258 >>2336108 Is that possible without butchering consoles?

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 15:34:40 2015 No.2336286

>>2336108
The problem with that pic is that for whatever retarded reason, the Retron 5 is programmed to act like a clone console instead of an emulator. Pull your cartridge out because it already dumped the ROM? Fuck you, you're not playing. Want to play a ROM without the cartridge? Fuck you, carts only. Not to mention the connectors are shit. I already had the NES connectors go out, and I haven't had it for more than 10 months.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 15:46:08 2015 No.2336306

>>2336286
Have you tried exploiting that IPS patching feature to play other games? Apparently it can be used to play most any other game, so long as you have a physical cart of a game from the system you're playing. There's also that RetroN Labo who has apparently made a modification to the Retron5 software allowing ROMs to be played and even other RetroArch cores.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwA4HPdP_OU

Haven't heard anything new from them in a while though.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 17:11:33 2015 No.2336492

>>2336306
IPS patches work but are obviously retarded. And if someone managed to get RA to run in it, then what's the fucking point in the first place? A dedicated emu PC will do the trick, and even RPi can run that shit these days.

the only retron thread /vr/ needs is a sticky one that explains why no one should ever buy it.

But I'll say it once more:

> I have a lot of games but not their respective consoles!
Either lies or just being a dumbass

> I'm running out of space!
Then you're not taking your hobby as seriously as someone who's willing to spend money on several authentic consoles and games should be

> I just want a carefree life where I can buy games from thrift shops and play them on a single console at home
Then emulate

> I don't like emulating. I want authenticity!
Here's the kicker: Retron IS an emulator

> I'm a dumb hipster
sold

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 17:13:47 2015 No.2336497 >>2336492 Not only this, but with Retron you can't use super scope, justifier, MSU-1 games, duck hunt, multicarts or anything n64/psx Honestly, either a real console + flash cart OR a dedicated emulation machine

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 17:21:04 2015 No.2336512 >>2336497 I also heard it doesn't like homebrews even if they can run on actual hardware.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 17:24:23 2015 No.2336525 File: 82 KB, 700x700, retron thread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Report, sage, hide.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 17:37:19 2015 No.2336559

>>2336492
>And if someone managed to get RA to run in it, then what's the fucking point in the first place? A dedicated emu PC will do the trick, and even RPi can run that shit these days.

Well the thing is, the Retron5 RUNS RetroArch, RetroN Labo is just showing what other cores can be run on the hardware they chose for the Retron5

>>2336512
I think this is the fact of that apparently it goes by a hash database or something like that, so any game it can't identify it won't play.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 22:38:01 2015 No.2337127 I have a Retron 5 because I live in a shithole studio apartment, but I'm a huge casual so take that for what it's worth.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 9 22:40:56 2015 No.2337131 >>2336024 Wait for the Shield console, that should take care of your emulation needs. >>2336035 He's talking about the 8th-gen one, not the 6th-gen one; it hasn't been hacked yet.

Anonymous Thu Apr 9 22:55:06 2015 No.2337150

>>2336024

Oh boy, I love these threads

I mean that unironically

Just in case a quick rundown: The Retron 5 is a bunch of stolen emulators on a chip that dumps the cart rom. Incompabilities to many games. That could be fine if it was a cheap alternative. But it is expensive as hell. For that price you can buy the original systems or a decent computer that can run the emus itself and then you can even use normal roms. It looks cool but there is no reason for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 02:09:39 2015 No.2337413 >>2336559 >goes by a hash database Holy shit So if you've got a dump with even one byte changed that shit can't play, or what?

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 02:28:28 2015 No.2337443

>>2337413
I don't have a system myself to test with (I only know of that from what others have said and when I went through it's system restore flash file), but that's a possibility I suppose. Like if the cartridge connector becomes faulty enough to where it can still accept carts but dumps improperly somehow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 03:00:05 2015 No.2337492 First it was Kimmo Alm's stupid website. And now this!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 03:20:49 2015 No.2337503 bread ridden

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 04:56:08 2015 No.2337569 File: 79 KB, 642x642, 1376940511321.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >emulation >not playing on the original consoles

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 04:57:30 2015 No.2337570 >>2337569 there is absolutely nothing wrong with emulating 4th gen and earlier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 05:06:52 2015 No.2337575 File: 418 KB, 1280x1024, Clipboard01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2337569 >>2337569 Anon, i'm pretty sure you don't play win95\98\DOS games on original hardware neither.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 05:11:35 2015 No.2337579 >>2337569 The biggest advantage of original hardware is incentive to play. I usually can't be fucked to emulate.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 06:01:31 2015 No.2337603

My favorite retron btfo pasta:

Wii:
> the only game that I've played that didn't work right is fucking Top Gun
> every game ever that I can hold on one SD card
> simple to use menus with good options
> individual emulators for each console or Retroarch if you're a faggot
> Wiimote as Zapper, Superscope, Justifier or Sega Menacer support--top that shit, Retron
> as many players as the game can support
> can use Wiimotes, Classic Controller, nunchuck, even GameCube controllers
> can also play Sega CD, GBA, TG-16, and other consoles
> GB emulators had rad Super Game Boy support including borders and colourisation
> Outputs in RCA, RGB or even SCART while letting you choose what resolution to play at, allowing your games to possibly look even better than they would on real hardware

Retron:
-You can use your carts if that's something you give a fuck about, I guess

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 08:23:40 2015 No.2337690 >>2336108 I'm pretty sure someone out there has everything reverse engineered and a possible prototype drawn out, it's just a matter of getting the chipsets manufactured legally/cheaply.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 08:35:45 2015 No.2337703 >>2336124 Or better yet, buy the actual games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 08:52:41 2015 No.2337721 >>2337703 if you're out to play the games there is no fucking difference. only collectorfags, and i say fags super nicely, care about collecting i have flashcarts for nes, snes, n64, genesis and tg-16 because i enjoy playing games.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 09:07:48 2015 No.2337750
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>>2336024
>Retron 5
It's a glorified computer that ships with emulators installed.

>But muh actual carts!
Set the actual carts on top of your PC while you emulate. If that isn't enough for you, then buy some ROM dumpers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 09:07:58 2015 No.2337752 You know, where I come from, we call people retromongols when we wanna call them retards, and I'm having this idea about calling people a certain trademarked name...

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 09:25:25 2015 No.2337786
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>>2336024
You might as well just buy a USB controller and emulate them since Retron is emulation. Honestly using a controller and pc is surprisingly good and majority of games run perfectly. Plus you can instantly have an enormous collection, play games that are outrageously expensive or hard to find (ie. getting to play secret of mana and earthbound for the first time)

The only reason I could see it worth buying one would be if you had a pretty large collection of games already.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 11:18:15 2015 No.2337945
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>>2336128
I agree with this guys final statement, just softmod a Wii. Takes like less than half an hour and you can have every retro console at your disposal (the wii will even output at 240p)

Only downside is you cant easily use the original controllers, but I just plug in a GC controller and it works pretty well.

I use the Wii to play any game I dont own while I build my collection.

Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:07:21 2015 No.2338008

>>2336128
>It actually has a digital encoder in the cable (to push the manufacturing costs for the console down) which is why it's so rare.
What I want to know is, since the console is outputting a digital signal and the component cable is encoding THAT to analogue, could someone figure out how to convert the raw digital signal to DVI or HDMI? Do we know anything about the protocol?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:18:05 2015 No.2338016 >>2338008 That's the thing. No one has been able to reverse engineer it yet. If they had, there would be a million Chinese cables on the market.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:38:07 2015 No.2338047 >>2336123 I enjoyed this post, reads like an infomercial testimonial

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:43:12 2015 No.2338054 >>2336087 Gamecube is not /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:43:35 2015 No.2338056 I am sure Retron guys hire people to bomb us over and over

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:44:34 2015 No.2338059 File: 134 KB, 575x766, 1428684274036.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2338054 but can be used for /vr/ purposes

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:45:55 2015 No.2338061 Only poorfags get mad over retron 5.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:46:51 2015 No.2338063 >>2338061 >Only poorfags get mad over retron 5. My wife doesn't, but then again, she's a two dollar whore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:48:34 2015 No.2338065 >>2338063 Apparently your wife is pretty smart for a poorfag.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 12:49:32 2015 No.2338068 File: 62 KB, 362x332, 1426130364661.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2338063 >2015 >only have a $2 whore of a wife instead of a the new $3 whore of a wife to play retron with >mfw

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 10 15:07:41 2015 No.2338268 >>2336108 There are already hardware MD/SNES/NES clones, plus that GBA-in-a-cart thing for SNES

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:03:15 2015 No.2338975 >>2338268 Why'd you leave out TG/PCE? Are you an enginist or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 00:34:42 2015 No.2339039 >>2338068 In this economy you'd be lucky to get a $1 whore of a wife.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 01:17:28 2015 No.2339140 >>2338975 Hey, slapping together pre-existing SOCs into a plastic box is hard work Cut them some slack!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 02:50:41 2015 No.2339268 if you guys are saying retron 5 is bad. Honest question Whats the best way to play old school nintendo games. nes/snes/64 on a hd tv?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 02:55:35 2015 No.2339272 >>2339268 Wii.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 02:57:08 2015 No.2339273 >>2339268 Mod the original consoles for component output.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 02:57:26 2015 No.2339274 >>2339268 emulators on an iphone, duh

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 03:16:25 2015 No.2339304 >>2339273 could you tell me more about how this is done, and what i might cost?

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Anonymous Sat Apr 11 03:26:02 2015 No.2339314

>>2339304
I don't do component mods on my stuff since I tend to use RGB when possible. However, there is/or is going to be a component addition for viletkm's NES RGB (made by him as well). As for the other, just look through Google. For the others, the SNES supports RGB natively unless you go the SNES Mini which needs a simple mod but can provide some of the clearest SNES RGB and some N64s can be model for RGB. After that, I guess there are ways to from RGB to ckmponent?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 03:27:58 2015 No.2339315 >>2339314 *viletim. And holy shit that post was a mess. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 03:52:07 2015 No.2339332 >>2339039 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 04:12:50 2015 No.2339342 >>2337575 A computer is the original hardware. I just plug in a CRT monitor to play my DOS games authentically.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 04:16:42 2015 No.2339343

>>2339268

The problem with the Retron 5 is that it's a low-powered software emulator that requires physical cartridges to read the roms from.

It's quite simply the worst of both worlds. The expense and clutter real cartridges, along with slow startup and imperfect emulation.

You could do virtually anything else and it would be an improvement. If you want something more authentic yet convenient, use an output-modded original console with a flash cart and hook it up to an appropriate display. If you just want to use emulation, do it on a real PC that has the power to run a cycle-accurate emulator and store your roms on your hard drive. Just don't complain about your input lag if you choose to play 3rd/4th gen console games on an HDTV

There also exist hardware-based clones that support multiple systems in one without relying on emulation. eg: The older Retron 3, FC Twin, FC3 Plus, etc...

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 04:27:43 2015 No.2339348

>>2337575
>i'm pretty sure you don't play win95\98\DOS games on original hardware neither.

If you're using modern Intel or AMD architecture, you actually still are.

Despite this i7 processor being the newest, shiniest state of the art hardware, it is still capable of NATIVELY executing all legacy x86 instructions, going as far back as x86-16 from nearly 40 years ago.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 04:33:52 2015 No.2339353

>>2339348

You are not taking into consideration, MIDI drivers related to motherboards or dedicated cards, new GPU having drivers that makes many games incompatible or problematic, sometimes new GPU also miss specific features related to old card.
CPU being too fast and messing with old games or missing instructions, having too much RAM, 1gb doesn't make WIN98 to boot.
In short no, you need old hardware to make old games to work perfectly.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 05:11:31 2015 No.2339370

>>2339348

My DOS/W9x/XP rig is pretty close, being a Core2Quad. XP can only use 2 cores and DOS/W98 only one, but w/e it was spare hardware.

>>2339353
>MIDI drivers
>new GPU

There are typically translation wrappers for these things.

>CPU being too fast

You can downclock and disable cache. I can get my C2Q down to around 486 level performance and run Jazz Jackrabbit without triggering the infamous Borland runtime error 200.

>missing instructions

This isn't going to happen with a modern x86-compatible processor.

>having too much RAM, 1gb doesn't make WIN98 to boot.

There are ways around this. With careful ini tweaking it can handle up to 2GB. For the remaining 2GB of address you can create ramdisks during the DOS segment to limit the memory pool. There's also a commercial patch that fixes the bugs preventing W98 from working properly with up to 4GB, no tweaks required.

Nobody said it had to be easy, but our modern hardware still incorporates the original architecture.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 05:44:10 2015 No.2339403

>>2339370

Wrappers used IN win98 ?
Anon, please, you can barely make stuff works with that PC and WIN98.
Drivers for any new hardware (motherboards,GPU, soundcards) are not presents for WIN98, so you can barely make shit to work with a new PC with WIN98.
The first guy >>2337569 ranted about emulation and not being authentic, my point stand.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:07:32 2015 No.2339416

>>2339370
>My DOS/W9x/XP rig is pretty close, being a Core2Quad. XP can only use 2 cores and DOS/W98 only one, but w/e it was spare hardware.

I know 100% sure that you have no audio with98 and motherboard capable of using that CPU.
So i can also say, being 100% sure, that you a liar trying to make a point.
Or do you really fire up your WIN98 partition playing all games (those that barely works) on mute anon ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:10:06 2015 No.2339418 >>2336024 I wonder, does this system even support SNES games with in-cart chips?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:14:18 2015 No.2339421 >>2339418 I assume so, given it's just running emulation software. The ROM is just dumped first.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:22:40 2015 No.2339430
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>>2339403

I'm running glide wrappers just fine in Win98SE with a PCIe Geforce 7950GT. I haven't tried any other setups though.

>The first guy >>2337569 ranted about emulation and not being authentic, my point stand.

I don't give a fuck about that. Just reiterating/confirming that you don't need a circa-1990s 486 or Pentium to run old DOS/Windows games natively.

>>2339416

The onboard audio is a bog standard Realtek chip, tough guy. It has working Win98 drivers. The board's a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 if you want to look it up. Even the onboard ethernet (also Realtek) works.

I don't even use the shitty onboard anymore, though. I have an Aureal Vortex 2 PCI card so I threw it in there.

>>2339418

Why wouldn't it? It's just running an Android-based OS with an emulator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:25:22 2015 No.2339431 >>2339430 >It has working Win98 drivers. The board's a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3 if you want to look it up http://it.gigabyte.com/products/page/mb/ga-p35-ds3_20/download/ Where ?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:28:16 2015 No.2339432 >>2339430 >Geforce 7950GT Besides the motherboard not having drivers for WIN98, anybody knows that after the FX chip nvidia halted any support for win98.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:31:01 2015 No.2339434 >>2339430 And let me add that using any wrapper while using WIN98 is fucking stupid. Why ? any old card like the 9800 or the 5900 can do much more much better, everything you said is a big fucking mess anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:38:33 2015 No.2339436 >>2339430 >I don't even use the shitty onboard anymore People with actual compatible motherboards have GM while using the onboard chip. There's nothing shitty about it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 06:53:35 2015 No.2339446

>>2339431
>>2339430

Realtek's modern chips retain AC'97 compatibility. Audio should work out of the box in Win98SE or WinME but you can also use the Realtek Win9x driver off their website if you want (just google it, 4chan thinks the link is spam).

>>2339432

The 82.69 nvidia Win9x driver fully supports the 7950. You just need to add the ID string for it to the installer's ini file so it recognizes the card (google this too, ffs this spam filter).

>>2339434

Glide titles unsurprisingly look better when run in Glide mode rather than software or some terrible D3D or OpenGL implementations if they even have one, so yes you should use a wrapper.

>>2339436

I'd rather my delicious A3D, thanks.

It's getting late here so I'm out to get some sleep. Feel free to continue embarrassing yourself in my absence though.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 07:00:18 2015 No.2339448

>>2339446
>Audio should work out of the box in Win98SE or WinME

This pretty much confirm you never used WIN98 in the first place.

The only thing that glide was faking 32bit, there's no other reason to use it.

>It's getting late here so I'm out to get some sleep. Feel free to continue embarrassing yourself in my absence though.

It's a really cool way to run away anon (while still lurking), and you motherboard still doesn't have WIN98 compatibility.

The only way to be convincing is to show some pic or video, because everything you said sound just like one big messy to make your point valid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 08:22:42 2015 No.2339493 >>2339370 >You can downclock and disable cache. I can get my C2Q down to around 486 level performance no you cannot

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 08:26:04 2015 No.2339498 >>2339493 Honestly everything seems pretty suspicious. Half the things he says are impossible and other half require improbable workarounds that probably will not make games to works, but just to install the drivers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 08:35:49 2015 No.2339502 File: 92 KB, 276x308, 1333426980247.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >see retron thread >quickly ctrl+f "wife" >9 results I fucking love you guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 08:36:28 2015 No.2339504 >>2336024 Me and my wife love it We can play mario and the sonics on it, CLASSIC! I don't even know what emu-lation is and it's great Also my friend's at work said I got a great buy, John in HR has an ipad and a iphone and he agrees

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 09:58:02 2015 No.2339605

>>2339446
>Audio should work out of the box in Win98SE or WinME
But not in DOS.

> nvidia Win9x driver fully supports the 7950
Semi true because it needs rloew ram patch (the card have 512 vRAM)

>Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3
anything beyond ICH5 or VIA VT8237 does not have DDMA support. Meaning you won't have sound in DOS.

>>2339370
>You can downclock and disable cache. I can get my C2Q down to around 486 level performance and run Jazz Jackrabbit without triggering the infamous Borland runtime error 200.

C2Q have locked multiplier,
C2QX have unlocked multiplier, but it can only go down to 6, and you can set FSB as low as 90, but that's still 540 Mhz.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:20:29 2015 No.2339629 >>2339605 Hes using an aureal vortex, which doesn't need DMA support for DOS sound.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:26:21 2015 No.2339643

I own it a love it. They fix a bunch of the 3 the one that annoyed me the most is that their was wiggle room for the nes cratrage so the 5 isn't lett that happen. And with a super game boy you can play those but not GBC but that's no big deal. The problem with save data is usually because the SD is dirty or loose. All in all I love this thing all you need is an HDMI and your good to go instead of hooking up 3 or four controls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:36:00 2015 No.2339658 >>2339629 what about adlib and midi?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:36:06 2015 No.2339659 >>2339643 I forgot one major problem ditch the control on this thing it such

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:40:48 2015 No.2339667 >>2339658 It'll emulate a sound blaster from within dos. From within a dos window it supports midi. http://www.dansdata.com/MX300.htm

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:48:48 2015 No.2339675 >>2339667 >It'll emulate a sound blaster from within dos. From within a dos window it supports midi. It also have daughterboard slot, will midi work natively under DOS with NEC XR385 for example? What about Adlib?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:51:09 2015 No.2339678 >>2339658 I pasted the dos section of the vortex driver's readme if you want to read it. http://pastebin.com/g8YE1184

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 10:53:24 2015 No.2339680 >>2339675 Sorry, I don't know about that since I've never tried those things with it myself. Maybe someone else does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 11:02:17 2015 No.2339695 >>2339680 The cards are still very worth it for A3D support.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 11:06:32 2015 No.2339703 >>2339605 It doesn't honestly look like a decent way to use WIN98. Many games need precise drivers for specifics pieces of hardware, it's highly improbable that with that many workarounds everything will work smooth as if with old hardware.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 11:49:14 2015 No.2339778 >>2339342 Computer might be original hardware but DOSBox is emulation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 13:22:30 2015 No.2339918 >>2339493 >He doesn't know about moslo

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 13:24:12 2015 No.2339920 >>2339918 I've heard about moslo, but that's not downclocking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 14:37:45 2015 No.2340038 wife approves

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 14:45:32 2015 No.2340050 File: 42 KB, 500x277, 1187660847443.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The only clone console I've owned, just because every NES I owned died on me, and I wanted to be able to play Famicom carts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 14:47:38 2015 No.2340053 >ME AND MY WIFE LOVE IT

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 14:48:27 2015 No.2340054 My muthafucking wife

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:14:33 2015 No.2340094 [DELETED]

>Hey guys, who here likes burgers?
>"Um, I only eat rare steak, you mongoloid."
>That's great, but this is a thread about burgers.
"NO I DON'T LIKE BURGERS FUCK THIS TROLL THREAD"

Couldn't you guys just, I dunno, stay out of the thread? There are plenty of steak threads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:17:02 2015 No.2340101 >>2340094 "hey guys i like eating shit" "um, eating shit is bad for you" "Couldn't you guys just, I dunno, stay out of the thread?"

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:17:29 2015 No.2340102

It's not 100% accurate but it's good, well worth it.
Not like your gf or wife is going to notice the difference between Retron 5 and the real thing. Definitely a great thing to have. It got my gf interested in retro gaming. The only modern day games she likes or plays are on facebook, so this is quite a big step for her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:18:31 2015 No.2340104 >>2340101 Nah, first analogy was more apt.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:27:31 2015 No.2340116

>>2340104
Maybe if the retron is a microwavable no-name gas station burger.
A really good burger would be LLE on a PC with a 4k display and a really smart CRT filter.
Steak could be real hardware on a crt.

We're all eating the beef of retro games. There is some degree of taste that I think really we all understand, and sometimes you're just a shitty fucking shill though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:29:05 2015 No.2340121 >>2339918 Moslo is a shit, CPUgrab actually does the job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:29:09 2015 No.2340123 Sometimes I think of throwing my Retron 5 at my wife, really hard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:30:46 2015 No.2340127 File: 70 KB, 517x609, 8263b7394702145643042af86207bd1e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2340123 Bitch should've passed it to you after dying huh? Learn 2 hotseat, motherfucker

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 15:58:33 2015 No.2340172

>>2340116
The point remains; if you want to talk steak, go to a steak thread. If you cannot stand the taste of a gas station burger, stay out of the thread. Standing in front of a gas station and calling its patrons shills just makes you an asshole, regardless of how good or noble your taste is.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:05:01 2015 No.2340189

>>2340094

Oh my, what an analogy.

OK, now imagine that the steak is made out of brown colored cardboard, has a small chance of your fork and knife not working with it and cost thrice as much as a real steak.
That's what the Retron is like. You can still enjoy your "steak" if you want to, but if you ask about it on /ck/ expect people to tell you that it is crap. If you don't like it then don't make a thread about your "steak".

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:05:04 2015 No.2340190

>>2340172
Okay, but the fucking retron shill is coming into our exclusive fine beef establishment where even guys playing on their computer or not on a CRT get shit.

And this is guy with a bunch of frozen burgers on a tray trying to get us to buy them. And he's dragging his wife around on a leash.

And throwing the frozen turds at crowds of people enjoying their burgers and steaks asking them 'what they think' every fucking 24 hours.

WE THINK YOU SHOULD FUCKING LEAVE.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:12:35 2015 No.2340198

>>2340190

Nah, you said it yourself:

>We're all eating the beef of retro games.

No one is throwing anything at you. You left your fine dining section, sat down with the burger boys, and are now crying "These burger boys are ruining my experience!"

Just stay in your fine dining section, sir. It takes more effort to come into a thread and bellow about how you hate it than to... I dunno, not enter the thread in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:22:53 2015 No.2340227

A Little off topic, but what SNES clone would be best to get with a flashcart? I was going to get one for my grandmother since she always had trouble playing on the Wii due to the number of steps or something. I also don't want to just buy a real one due to the age of the parts and likelyhood that it'd just shit out sooner than later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:40:59 2015 No.2340262 >>2340227 Flashcarts don't work unless they can be driven by real hardware, and I don't know of any real hardware SNES clones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:43:32 2015 No.2340269 >>2340262 Shoot. Guess i'll have to ebay & pray, then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 16:47:25 2015 No.2340272 >>2340262 I'm an idiot. I didn't know this, even though it makes perfect sense when you think about it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 17:30:03 2015 No.2340341

>>2340227
>I also don't want to just buy a real one due to the age of the parts and likelyhood that it'd just shit out sooner than later.
They've lasted 20 years. Your grandma will die first.

I don't know what the rating is on the caps, but they're probably still good for another 20.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 17:31:00 2015 No.2340347 >>2340094 This. So much this

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:14:10 2015 No.2340431

>>2339918
>>2340121
The problem with slowdown utilities is that they tend to slowdown inconsistently, disabling cache is a way better solution if you have an ISA slot. If you use a PCI card for sound blaster emulation , you will get no sound if you disable cache.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:15:26 2015 No.2340435 File: 41 KB, 800x600, MAXIMUM TOLERANCE FROG.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHY THE FUCK DO THESE THREAD STAY UP SO LONG THE MODS MUST BE GETTING PAYED OR SOME SHIT THIS POST COULD BE DELETED

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:17:18 2015 No.2340439 >>2340435 For some reason I am interpreting this pose as a poem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:21:03 2015 No.2340443 >>2340435 Why shouldn't they? Like it or not, but Retron- threads with the system being an emulator system are /vr/-related. ANd as long as there is only one at a time I am fine with them. I find them always hilarous.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:21:35 2015 No.2340447 >>2340435 >retron 5 related discussion should get deleted because I don't like it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 18:32:18 2015 No.2340471 If you're going to emulate why not just do it for free on your computer

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:07:55 2015 No.2340548

>>2340094
Food metaphor time? Food metaphor time.

Imagine if the Retron5 was a burger.

>Burger thread! Retron5 is the most greatest burger! How many Retron5 burgers have you guys bought?
>Why not just buy an emulate-on-your-PC burger? They're healthier, taste better, and cheaper too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:10:35 2015 No.2340558 >>2340443 Because they are all shill threads by a retarded ad manager that cant even use the catalog to check if his thread from the day before even hit its post limit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:16:58 2015 No.2340572 I'd like clones if they actually focused on being a cheaper and accurate alternative to the actual console, instead they just focus on cramming as many systems as possible all with accuracy on par with a late 90s-early 2000s emulator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:25:41 2015 No.2340582 >>2340558 >>2340435 This is fucking stupid. If you don't like the threads don't post in them, ignore them, hide them But they are totally on topic for this board

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:27:09 2015 No.2340584

>>2340548
>Burger thread! Retron5 is the most greatest burger! How many Retron5 burgers have you guys bought?

But OP said none of those things. In any case, "HEY EAT THIS INSTEAD BECAUSE I DECLARE IT TO BE BETTER" is annoying in both metaphor and literal terms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:28:09 2015 No.2340586 >>2340558 I pity you for having such simple logic.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:40:54 2015 No.2340606

>>2340584
>"HEY EAT THIS INSTEAD BECAUSE I DECLARE IT TO BE BETTER"
The metaphor falls apart because taste in food is a matter of taste. The Retron5 isn't.

If you and your spouse enjoy the Retron5, then by all means, consider to do so. That being said...

The Retron5 is a single-board PC + cartridge slots/controller inputs/video out. It is an overpriced Beagleboard/Arduino/Rasberry Pi masquerading as a 1/1 hardware replacement. If you want to emulate, do so on a PC. If you want to play on the original hardware, then play on the original hardware. The Retron5 is neither. As another poster already mentioned, it is the worst of both worlds.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 19:54:48 2015 No.2340627

I don't think you haters understand. You see SOME of us happen to have a shitload of carts to consoles we don't own for absolutely no reason and the retron 5 helps us play these carts by charging us $100 more than it would cost to buy the console itself. Of course you stinky virgins just don't understand this and probably don't even have a wife who wants to save space.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:00:31 2015 No.2340634

>>2340606
>If you want to emulate, do so on a PC. If you want to play on the original hardware, then play on the original hardware.

This is where your thread falls apart. For one, those are not the only two options anymore, and for another, you don't get to dictate what others can and cannot do. (How one chooses to play games is a matter of taste, too).

If you think playing on things like Retron5 are the worst of both worlds, that's great, but then why are you here? What do you get out of loitering in threads with subjects you hate and puffing up your chest over how others are so much more wrong than you? I mean, *I* know what you get out of it, but you should hear yourself.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:11:28 2015 No.2340649

>>2340634
>What do you get out of loitering in threads with subjects you hate and puffing up your chest over how others are so much more wrong than you? I mean, *I* know what you get out of it, but you should hear yourself.
OP asked what we (/vr/) thought of the Retron5. I told OP what I though of the Retron5. I explained why I thought that way. I don't know why any of this is upsetting you so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:14:27 2015 No.2340654 File: 33 KB, 498x372, 1426218723572.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2340094 If you wanna discuss burgers then why are you going to a steak forum instead of the many other burger forums out there?

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:15:19 2015 No.2340657

anyone who actually buys and seriously uses a retron 5 is a pure reddit tier basimga muh nerde culture xD faggot. This product literally only appeals to hipsters. Enthusiasts are going to own the real thing, emulators gonna emulate, and shitty fucks who want to impress their friends with their cool old school gaming collection will buy a retron 5.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:16:35 2015 No.2340661 >>2340654 >implying 4chan is a steak forum It's an Alpo forum at best.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:17:08 2015 No.2340662 >>2340435 The janitor here in general is a fucking retard. There are countless threads that don't apply by retro guidelines left here meanwhile he runs around and deletes threads or posts that are on topic because they have an opinion they don't like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:18:25 2015 No.2340664 >>2340649 Actually, you came in talking about how my metaphor fails because it doesn't gel with your taste, which you present as objectivity. Maybe that has something to do with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:18:28 2015 No.2340665 With the money you get from selling an Xbone you could buy all of the original consoles. Just do that. If you're concerned about "saving space" then just emulate them on your computer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:19:06 2015 No.2340670 >>2340662 we probably don't even have a janitor and the only shit that gets deleted is whatever makes the most people cry and report cause they can't handle someone elses opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:19:21 2015 No.2340671 File: 102 KB, 494x662, 2600_chase_chuck_wagon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2340661 >implying it isn't a Purina forum

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:21:42 2015 No.2340674

>>2340664
actually he said

>It is an overpriced Beagleboard/Arduino/Rasberry Pi masquerading as a 1/1 hardware replacement.

What are the positives of the retron 5? There are literally none, you could buy an emulator box with more features or buy the real deal. The shitron 5 serves no purpose.

>Playing actual cartridges
no it doesn't

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:22:34 2015 No.2340676 >>2340674 >What are the positives of the retron 5? It makes the wife happy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:29:12 2015 No.2340685 >>2340676 I love how 4chan prides itself on being better than reddit when it's just as prone to beating dead horse jokes into oblivion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:30:10 2015 No.2340686 >>2340685 My wife being happy is no joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:30:14 2015 No.2340689 >>2340674 >What are the positives of the retron 5? It's one device that accepts five different game media. >Playing actual cartridges >no it doesn't Who are you quoting there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:30:29 2015 No.2340690 >>2340685 Your wife is a dead horse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:31:50 2015 No.2340691 >>2340670 This. I reported some Doom thread. I didn't expect anything to happen but the retards actually deleted the thread. If you report something then you could flip a coin if it gets deleted or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:32:02 2015 No.2340692 >>2340690 upvoted

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:40:53 2015 No.2340697 >>2340685 Sounds like you're just upset that you have no other excuses to own a retron now that the biggest one turned into a joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:42:49 2015 No.2340703 >>2340697 No, see, that was an entirely different point, son. 4chan mocks reddit--even in this very thread--yet behaves a lot like it. If you can't help but spin that into some unrelated idea, well, that's kinda sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:50:20 2015 No.2340713 >>2340689 >It's one device that accepts five different game media. But you could get one device that accepts hundreds of different game media for cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:50:40 2015 No.2340714 >>2340689 I wasn't quoting anybody in particular I was just bringing up one of the possible "advantages"

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:51:52 2015 No.2340715 >>2340713 You can also buy a bunch of individual consoles that accept one medium each. Yes, anon, there are maaaaany different solutions! Good luck finding The Best One That Negates All Others.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:53:03 2015 No.2340716

>>2340689
it doesn't accept them it just dumps the data into storage to be played in an emulator. You can hack the firmware to run the roms from an SD card now and don't even need a cart. It's an emulator box with rom dumping slots. Since none of you own anything that hasn't been dumped it's useless.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 20:58:11 2015 No.2340718

>>2340715
You are missing the point so badly right now. Of course there are many solutions. We are discussing just one of them; the "device that accepts multiple forms of game media" solution. This is a perfectly valid solution. The point is that a PC provides this very same solution (not a different solution, the exact same one) better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:06:23 2015 No.2340730 >>2340718 I disagree! Live with it!

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:11:12 2015 No.2340738 >>2340703 You can keep shouting reddit all you want but it's not gonna change how upset you are over your one excuse being turned into a joke.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:15:47 2015 No.2340745 File: 236 KB, 691x625, 1421031581590.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2340738 >misunderstanding this much okay, you sure got me

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:17:16 2015 No.2340749 >>2340745 I understand exactly what you're doing. You're accusing of people who use the wife joke as acting like reddit because you want them to stop ruining the most common excuse retron shitposters have.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:22:06 2015 No.2340759

>>2340749
>I understand exactly what you're doing. You're accusing of people who use the wife joke as acting like reddit because
so far so good

>you want them to stop ruining the most common excuse retron shitposters have.
And we've derailed. No. It has nothing to do with "ruining Retron excuses" (this isn't even an actual Retron excuse). It's a separate comment on typical 4chan behaviors, of which this but one example. You can keep insisting otherwise, but that's not going to make it so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:24:34 2015 No.2340765 >>2340759 You can keep denying it all you want but it's obvious you're just trying to trick people into not using the wife joke anymore. Now don't you have a wife to go make love with instead of arguing with people on /vr/ all day?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:24:38 2015 No.2340767 >>2336024 It's not a clone system. it's a pretty good emulator package. But the emulation software is used commercially without the consent of its creators.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 21:35:50 2015 No.2340793 >>2340765 >keep denying it >you're just trying to trick people Jesus, dude.

Anonymous Sat Apr 11 22:38:00 2015 No.2340875

>>2340685

This comes from not the wife- jokes but Retron- threads themselves having become a part of /vr/- "culture". They by now have meme- like status in the way they always reappear and always take about the same turn. Since again and again stating that people who come into that thread by accident never should think of buying one of these things and why did not make them going away, /vr/ started mocking them, then someone used the wife and that spread.
If we have one "meme" it's the Retron5, or more specifically threads about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 11 22:43:51 2015 No.2340880 >>2340431 While i used cpugrap (AMD athlon 1.3) in win98 i never had problems, everything was just like on my old PII, up to the loading times.

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 00:06:42 2015 No.2341005

>>2339605
>>2339498

The locked processors can actually go down but not up.

I used to have the same family of mobo as that (DS3L) with a locked C2D and it could bring the multiplier down to 1x, which I used to do to mess with my roomates when they borrowed my machine. It also depends on the BIOS, though. Some boards only let you choose from a set list of multipliers but this is arbitrary.

>>2340431

Most of the free slowdown utilities are just shit. The paid version of Mo'Slo provides consistent results but the free one doesn't at all.

>>2340880

Now that you mention it, CPUgrab was pretty good at consistent slowdown last I tried it too. Not bad for a free utility anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 02:23:23 2015 No.2341185 >>2341005 >Now that you mention it, CPUgrab was pretty good at consistent slowdown last I tried it too. Not bad for a free utility anyway. I would dare to say that it's perfect, but maybe i just don't know enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 02:47:28 2015 No.2341213 >>2336497 to be fair, how many MSU-1 games could possibly be out there, since it's a "fake" chip made for BSNES to replace the functionality of the never-released SNES CD?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 03:29:47 2015 No.2341269 I just bought this for the wife... she said the colours were shit, then she chucked it off the Empire State Building.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 03:48:15 2015 No.2341295 My brother's wife asked me if she could play with my retron 5, i told her i didn't had one, but i'm beginning to think she was in need for something else.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 03:48:58 2015 No.2341296 >>2341295 but did you fuck your brother's wife or what

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 03:50:04 2015 No.2341301 >>2341296 No because i don't have a restron 5.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:00:44 2015 No.2341320 >>2341301 you dun fucked up now fuckboy

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:19:03 2015 No.2341343 what are the odds of a retron model with 64 support some day?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:21:15 2015 No.2341347 >>2341343 somewhere between hell freezing over and never

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:26:08 2015 No.2341356

>>2340269
>>2340272

>>2340262
I'm all for encouraging the use of real hardware but this is a bold-faced lie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYDxlTkzIQ

>>2340227
I've always said using a flash cart on clone hardware is the peak of stupidity but it's cute you want to hook up your grandma. Get her a real SNES though I promise you it will be more reliable than any clone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:30:35 2015 No.2341363 >>2341213 Aside from Super Road Blaster, there are now existing games being hacked for streaming audio. eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnAg2T7d6uU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nby1jjC_GVs

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:47:55 2015 No.2341374 >>2341363 oh shit I forgot that there were hacked games that used the MSU-1 for improved audio. I was thinking of MSU-1 original games

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 04:51:26 2015 No.2341375 >>2341374 I've been playing the enhanced ALTTP and digging it.

Anonymous Sun Apr 12 05:42:29 2015 No.2341402

>>2340703

I've been on 4chan for over a decade at this point and can guarantee you that 4chan beats dead horses, this isn't 4chan newly devolving to be worse than reddit or something, though 4chan has devolved overall since back then DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 14:46:40 2015 No.2342019 >>2336024 it's a rom dumper that requires the real cart to trick hipsters into thinking they're playing on actual hardware, what do you think we think of it? dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 15:04:35 2015 No.2342058 >>2341347 can you explain why that is?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:26:40 2015 No.2342365 >>2341402 It was never said that this is a new development.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 17:32:00 2015 No.2342376 >>2341363 Holy shit, that Mega Man X is incredible. Where is that rom?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 19:41:48 2015 No.2342649 >>2342376 http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2274/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 12 22:15:54 2015 No.2342902 File: 44 KB, 320x288, perfectwario.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2336108 >someone who isn't me posted my OC It is a good day

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 10:39:51 2015 No.2343574 File: 121 KB, 1024x768, PhotoFeb0332403PM_zpsbeeae543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is there any good clone that supports famicom cartridges?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:02:19 2015 No.2343652 File: 172 KB, 575x376, 1399317354452.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2343574 But not $450 good (or whatever the fuck they're selling it for)

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 16:08:36 2015 No.2344020 File: 58 KB, 750x1000, $_57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2343574 i live in France, is famicom av ok (i use a PAL monitor)

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 16:10:04 2015 No.2344025

>>2341356
From what I can tell, the SupaBoy is a hardware clone, not a ROM dumper.

Anything that simply dumps a ROM at boot and then runs it in RAM with an emulator, will NOT work with a cart like the Everdrive. The console needs to operate the hardware in the cartridge to load and boot the games. Same situation with coprocessors.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 16:16:46 2015 No.2344034

>>2343652
And that is hardly even a clone, really, if we assume that cloning means fabricating entirely new parts. It is an actual PPU and CPU from a Famicom placed on a new PCB in a new case. You're better off just RGB modding a Famicom and saving money. I just hope people plunking down money on that thinking it is "new" understand that they are still getting roughly 30 year old +/- chips running the thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 16:48:42 2015 No.2344081 >>2336258 realistically, no theoretically, yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 18:11:09 2015 No.2344216 File: 486 KB, 526x700, 1367211153520.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >wife pic related

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 18:16:00 2015 No.2344220

>>2343652
>>2344034
Yeah those are terrible. Theres really no reason for an NES Multi-tap because very few games even use the damn thing.

For less then 450 you can
>Buy a toploader NES
>Send it to Jason at Gametech-US to RGB mod it for you and get it tricked out
>3 palette swap, stereo mod, takes the SNES/N64/GC cable, LED, replace caps
>Sent back to you
And have a system thats in really good shape, has superior video quality and probably 50 - 100 bucks less. The RGB mod is a bit pricey, but I cannot fucking stand RF, and my toaster NES blew up so I needed a new one, and a top loader was the logical solution due to the superior design.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 18:46:35 2015 No.2344275 >>2336065 My wife and I post about the retron5 all the time. We post about it more than we play the games!

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 18:49:26 2015 No.2344279

>>2337945
Somebody in another thread posted about this universal controller adapter thing. I think it was basically a GC pad where all the inputs were soldered to a DB-15, and he made adapters out of controller extension cords that became DB-15 male to controller port cords for all sorts of retro pads.

There are other adapters too, though as I recall they're a bit overpriced. Personally, I think that wiimote, classic pad pro, and GC controller take care of everything for me on that system. Shame I don't have a proper Genesis pad though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:15:32 2015 No.2344310 >>2344220 Will Jason do the same for a Famicom? My plan is to get a famicom, an adaptor for NES games and a NES flashcart. Gotta get those extra features!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:19:32 2015 No.2344319 >>2344216 You and your wife don't have a Retron5 yet? Get one it saves tons of space!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:20:52 2015 No.2344321 >>2344310 Why would you get a Famicom? Just get a top loader, those FC controllers are terrible, plus they're hardwired.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:25:36 2015 No.2344332 >>2344310 >>2344321 I dunno if he'll do it with the original model famicom, but I'm sure he does the AV famicom RGB mods. Just check his website... www gametech-us dat com

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:26:29 2015 No.2344334 >>2344321 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Cable-Adapter-Controller-Converter-For-Famicom-Sharp-Twin-Famicom-AV-/111408696236

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:27:33 2015 No.2344336 >>2344332 my bad its game-tech dot us It says hes not taking on mod work right now so its entirely likely you're sol. You could... always try Drakken...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 19:27:47 2015 No.2344337 Anons, what would be my best bet for portable genesis emulation? I can do with something pricey but it should have good results. If possible give more than one choice, in case I cannot get that one thing you mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 21:37:51 2015 No.2344559 >>2344337 Not sure if this is what you had in mind but PSP genesis emulation is almost perfect, unlike SNES. I'm not sure what they go for these days but I'd imagine it wouldn't be too expensive.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 09:33:31 2015 No.2345340 >>2344337 >I can do with something pricey but it should have good results. Try your wife.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 09:51:02 2015 No.2345347 >>2344337 I use my PSP for that. You need to mod and overclock it to run Genesis games properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 09:57:15 2015 No.2345350 >>2345340 >Try your wife. Out of stock

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 10:13:33 2015 No.2345368 >>2336093 It upscales and puts out HDMI. Believe it or not it doesn't look too horrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 10:20:19 2015 No.2345376 >>2345368 Is emulating really "upscaling" though?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 11:28:50 2015 No.2345462 >>2344081 >>2336258 Wouldn't it be possible if you just bought a bunch of broken systems and pieced them back together in a fancy new shell?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 11:53:46 2015 No.2345502 >>2345368 >doesn't look too horrible How would a fuckhueg tv (50) look with them megadrive games, I tried arcades and most looked gr8. >tfw with a cheap plasma can pretend to live the life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 11:58:30 2015 No.2345507 >>2345502 And before you ask, no I can't hook it right now, being used for other purposes. Btw, is 190€ too much for a jap megacd?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:00:18 2015 No.2345509 >>2336024 how could you spend so much money for an x bone and then not use it? i would never be able to do that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:02:40 2015 No.2345512 >>2336024 is this just a raspberry pi in a shoebox?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:09:26 2015 No.2345520 >>2345512 Not an rpi but it does run android with the RK3066 chipset if I remember right. Oh and of course it improperly makes use of emulation code (in terms of the open source licenses each one is under).

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 23:04:33 2015 No.2346476

>>2345507
>Some random strangers should know what something is worth to me personally in my personal situation.
Based on your use of a 3rd world currency sign it's likely a japan megacd is rare and expensive where you are and will have to be shipped from Japan and travel the last 100 miles to your village by yak. Even then that price seems very high. I bought one with a megadrive for 3,800円 (about 30 of your spacebucks) last year and I overpaid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 00:31:57 2015 No.2346596 Daily reminder that a $25 Gamestick can run all the software a Retron 5 runs - and with Sparrow's retropad adapter, it can use all the same controllers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 00:39:07 2015 No.2346607 >>2346596 >daily reminder Where've you been the past five days?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 00:44:50 2015 No.2346615 >>2346607 I mentioned it ITT on Thursday also >>2336128 I do point out somewhere how inexpensive hardware is that can emulate 4th and even 5th gen consoles practically every single day though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 00:47:41 2015 No.2346619 >>2346615 >I mentioned it ITT on Thursday also So, about five days ago >I do point out... practically every single day though. That's fucking sad. Get a real hobby.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 00:58:30 2015 No.2346650

If games were books...

Original carts and consoles
>Bookshelves and books. For the reader who enjoys the experience of reading. Need light to read, but can read anything in his language. Lots of space needed. This reader loves everything about reading, and needs the atmosphere.

Emulators
>E-Readers. Very low space requirements, but quick access to a massive library. Some books won't read, and need power to use it. This type of reader doesn't long for a physical book 'experience', and just wants a massive library on the go.

Retron
>Like an E-Reader that needs power, but it also requires you to hold a book against it to read. Even though you have the book in your hand, you can't read it unless the E-Reader allows. Many books don't work at all, and you still need your bookshelves full. Oh, and sometimes you forget all the previous chapters between reading sessions. This type of reader just wants to 'feel authentic' without having to directly read a dirty old book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 01:05:04 2015 No.2346663 >>2346650 You don't need a bookshelf to read a book. You do need a console to play a cart. Without a true equivalent to the console, your analogy falls apart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 01:17:14 2015 No.2346691 >>2346663 >You don't need a bookshelf to read a book >Keeps his books in a pile on the floor in the middle of the room >Games are in the same pile. Also dirty clothes, etc.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 01:22:15 2015 No.2346697

>>2346691
You can keep your games (and books) in bins, boxes, cabinets, on coffee tables, under beds, or even a pile on the floor. You can pick up a book from any of those places and read it. You cannot pick up a game from any of those places and play it unless you also have a console. Other than that wow you sure showed me

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 09:14:18 2015 No.2347112 >>2346476 >yak The stranger doesn't know about donkeys, heh

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:15:41 2015 No.2347923

>>2336024
I can't believe people pay for these things.

A console that:
- Requires a cart, even though it's an emulator
- Has sound issues with some mainstream games
- If the game isn't on a whitelist, it won't even run
- Well known to wipe save files

Christ. Buy a real console, or make an emulator computer. What purpose does this thing actually serve, other than to extract money from saps?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:29:08 2015 No.2347943 >>2347923 >What purpose does this thing actually serve, other than to extract money from saps? Building up the ego of smart lads like you by giving you an opportunity to thumb your noses at the peons "polluting your community."

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:47:28 2015 No.2347994 File: 1.06 MB, 411x296, 1419981547968.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ctrl+f "wife" >35 results

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:51:11 2015 No.2348007 File: 15 KB, 256x277, 1218834613581.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Retron 5 thread > 232 replies and 27 images omitted Never change /v/, never change

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 17:57:30 2015 No.2348026 File: 15 KB, 256x277, 1218834613581.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Retron 5 thread > 232 replies and 27 images omitted Never change /vr/, never change

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:44:01 2015 No.2348132 File: 1.97 MB, 318x239, 1378537619816.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2340198 Five stars, my man.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 18:46:50 2015 No.2348138

>>2347923

I find plenty of joy triggering your elitism, honestly. Aside from that, I have hundreds of cartridges and I like the convenience of having one station to dock them all in, and the upscaling to HD is a nice bonus. Stay mad though, it suits you.

onan Wed Apr 15 19:22:54 2015 No.2348204

Considering buying second hand copies of old games doesn't benefit original developers at all, I don't see it as THAT wrong thing to "just copy the rom images".

If I wanted an Android-based multi-emulator setup, I'd probably choose a less-restricted one.

"Originals only" (with workarounds for rom images, afaik) is one, but what if you f.ex. want to emulate C64, Amiga, MSX or whatever else? I guess you can't install further emulators on this one...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:39:22 2015 No.2348335 >>2348138 >I have hundreds of cartridges IN MY MIND! >Says the troll who can't even afford a retron

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:52:50 2015 No.2348357

>>2347923
People don't know it's an emulator when they buy it. It's only afterwords they learn that, then feel that they gotta defend the huge expense with posture and shilling.

Got a buddy that did it. Found out the hard way when Sonic 3 snapped with Knuckles didn't work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:58:45 2015 No.2348362 >>2348026 Actually we changed, just some weeks ago these threads were instantly deleted

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:08:21 2015 No.2348371

The jist of it is this:

>If you own carts, chances are you own the system, so this system is irrelevant

>If you don't own the carts, the system is irrelevant because its an emulator that requires carts
Although apparently you can do a workaround to load roms via an SD card now

So there it is. Its in a deadzone. I guess there would be a market for it if you somehow found a dozen games across the NES/SNES/GB/GBC/GBA and Genesis in your attic but not your consoles.

The fact that its an emulator is basically irrelevant for most people honestly. Being able to use some features would be nice for some games, that are like insanely tedious or brutally difficult (actraiser 2, I will never beat you on console)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:35:55 2015 No.2348408 File: 63 KB, 500x394, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2336024 speaking of Retron 5, is an Fc-16 go good to buy? Or is it another bad emulator handheld like the atgames genesis portable and retron systems?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:36:28 2015 No.2348410

>>2348371
A lot of people have the consoles and carts already but don't have CRTs anymore and want something that works well with HDMI; that's where the Retron comes in. It's too expensive for its niche and there are converters and such for retro consoles, but it has a purpose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:43:58 2015 No.2348424 >>2348410 Every single HD tv I've owned has at least 1 RF, 2 RCA, and 2 component inputs. I don't really get this argument.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:48:13 2015 No.2348428 >>2340198 You're right, he should let the loiterers be

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:53:14 2015 No.2348434 >>2346619 >You suck whether you do or don't do something >Retro gaming isn't a real hobby Did someone piss in your Cheerios?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:54:47 2015 No.2348440 >>2346619 Only a loser would take two minutes out of his life to make an internet post

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 22:08:33 2015 No.2348461 >>2348424 Lag, and a generally poor/blurry picture, putting composite cables into a HDTV makes them look far crappier than they do on a CRT, doubly so for coaxial.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 22:19:41 2015 No.2348473 >>2348434 Retro gaming is a real hobby. Actually posting "daily reminders" isn't. By the way, how is extolling the virtues of Gamestick on a daily basis NOT shilling, while merely mentioning Retron5 is? >>2348440 It takes you two minutes?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 22:49:30 2015 No.2348510 main reason I'd like a single console to play all my shit, even though I have all the consoles and games I want from back then is to avoid the jungle of wires to hook them all up. if this doesn't solve that then there's no point.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 22:52:33 2015 No.2348518

After using lots of emulators I just don't think the sound chips are exact. Also sometimes I notice screen tearing. The PC input lag could also be a reason not to use emulators. For someone just collecting the carts, the retron is OK. If they made a system that had Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1 or Xbox chips together I think that would be a lot cooler than stupid emulators.

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:04:51 2015 No.2348530

My Wii can play everything these systems can and these things are dirt cheap too because everyone wants Wii-U. Just checked Amazon and there's a few for around $30 on there so there's no excuse not having one. Get an old white unit that stands tall and you'll also have full Gamecube support.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:16:14 2015 No.2348554 >>2348530 Are there Wii emus for GB, GBC, GBA? Serious question. >everyone wants Wii-U What dimension do you come from?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:18:04 2015 No.2348560

>>2348530
Kind of. I've noticed a ton of emulation errors in SNES and Genesis games. Due probably to the fact that the Wii is a quite weak system and can't run a very accurate general emulator (not optimized for a particular game).

Still better than spending money on an emulation device though. The Wii also plays Wii games and Gamecube games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 23:22:15 2015 No.2348568 >>2348560 >Still better than spending money on an emulation device though. Tell me more about these free Wiis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:08:09 2015 No.2348629 >>2348568 >free Wiis You mean the ones that are free because I already own them for playing wii games or the ones I was literally given for free by people throwing them away?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:13:50 2015 No.2348635 File: 44 KB, 468x440, tech_tabak_ian_fleming_smoking_cigarette_holder_bow_tie_AA_01_01a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2348629 >I paid for it in the past, so that's kind of like free! >I rummage through people's trash!

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:20:25 2015 No.2348648

>>2348568
The Wii isn't an "emulation device", no need to be pedantic. It is a console that plays its own software and can, as an unintended additional benefit, emulate older games.

Also, is this "identify spagetti" captcha shit some sort of retarded meta joke?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:23:50 2015 No.2348657 >>2348473 Just being generous with my estimate

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:25:22 2015 No.2348660

>>2348648
What you're quoting to was in response to >>2348560, specifically
>"[The Wii is] Still better than spending money on an emulation device though.

Thus, no one is calling the Wii an "emulation device." Instead, the idea that a Wii is a free alternative to the costly investment of an actual emulation device is called into question. It felt good to use the word pedantic, at least, right?

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:34:23 2015 No.2348680

>>2348473
I think there's something wrong with your head, Bro. I point out the absolute rock bottom priced devices for emulating on TVs. Wiis and Gamesticks are both pretty easily found for under $30. I also "shill" for Xperia Play in handheld threads... See, I put shill in quotation marks in this situation because you can't shill for something that's not being produced anymore

Unless you suspect I might be attempting to corner the market on Gamesticks or something. Mwahahahaha!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 00:37:26 2015 No.2348689 >>2348680 So, anyone who so much as breathes the word "Retron 5" is actively trying to promote the product's sale for personal gain, but when you directly advocate the purchase of other products, you're not. Seamless logic!

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:21:39 2015 No.2348743

>>2348635
>When I bought item A I got a coupon to get item B for free later. I paid for item B.
>I only see my neighbors through my basement window. They would never know to give me something they no longer wanted that I was interested in.
>I really am this sad and retarded.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:29:39 2015 No.2348754

>>2348743
>You didn't get a coupon for Item B with Item A. "Item B" IS Item A.
>There's a huge difference between "throwing something away" and "giving something to someone else"
>Pulling the "you're a retard" card when you yourself are arguing on 4chan is an invalid move

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 03:23:16 2015 No.2348836 >>2348754 >Item A is apples >Item B is oranges >Item B IS item A >Apples are oranges >The rest of the world is wrong and I am right Awwwww. What a cute little tism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 04:42:52 2015 No.2348887 >>2348554 Yes. I used to use Visual Boy Advance GX for those.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 07:50:25 2015 No.2349000

>>2348560
> noticed a ton of emulation errors in SNES and Genesis game

List them, i m curious about which ones.
The sega emulator is actually very accurate, with 100% compatibility and no known audio/video glitched.

Also, just that you know, retron5 uses the same emulators as wii homebrew ones, which are snes9x and genplus-gx.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:55:23 2015 No.2349124

Got a retron5 because I have a bunch of carts and continue to collect them. I have so many other components, consoles, etc it doesn't make sense to have 3-5 old consoles Hooked up trying to have a receiver convert an analog signal to digital.

The retron5 upconverts the signal and sends it direct over HDMI, SNES and GB games look great on HDTV. You won't get this look with the original consoles, period.

Also people on 4chan just seem to be broke losers always justifying he money aspect. It's pretty nice to sit back and play with a wireless controller as opposed to be hunched over with an old SNES one etc

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 10:14:25 2015 No.2349131 File: 38 KB, 333x308, 1384461494452.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2349124

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 10:37:29 2015 No.2349152 >>2349124 But do you enjoy playing it with your wife?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:06:33 2015 No.2349180 What does Xbone think of the wife, or women in general? I don't use my /vr/, so I'm thinking about selling it to buy one.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:18:40 2015 No.2349194

>>2349124
>Also people on 4chan just seem to be broke losers always justifying he money aspect. It's pretty nice to sit back and play with a wireless controller as opposed to be hunched over with an old SNES one etc

You were doing good until you got here. Could have left that off, and people may have believed you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:23:31 2015 No.2349201 Why is this shit still not deleted? I've reported it like 3 times already the last days.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 11:27:50 2015 No.2349212

>>2349124
>Got a retron5 because I have a bunch of carts and continue to collect them. I have so many other components, consoles, etc it doesn't make sense to have 3-5 old consoles
Bullshit.
>Hooked up trying to have a receiver convert an analog signal to digital.
You don't need a "reciever" for analog signal. Bullshit.
>SNES and GB games look great on HDTV.
No they don't
>You won't get this look with the original consoles, period.
If I plug my PC into my TV and launch a free emulator I will get exactly the same picture, just without nasty bugs.
>Also people on 4chan just seem to be broke losers always justifying he money aspect.
Fuck off
>It's pretty nice to sit back and play with a wireless controller as opposed to be hunched over with an old SNES one etc
Except the retron wireless controller is a complete piece of shit and also uses infrared, which barely works at all

0/10 reported

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Anonymous Thu Apr 16 12:02:40 2015 No.2349252

>>2349212
Lol lil broke kid got his panties in a knot?

I'm not fucking running 5 component cables in my wall and fishing them around my wall mounted TV into a side input. A) it looks like shit B) why would I even run independent cables from a console to my TV when I have a single HDMI from receiver to TV?

GB and SNES games actually DO look fantastic. I've had the retron5 for about a month and played numerous carts over HDMI to my Sony NX711 as well as my 4K XBR55X850B. The 4K TV literally has MILLIONS of more pixels than any sort of retro console was ever designed for and the upscaling does a fantastic job in making the picture look smooth and complete, not grainy as fuck when I've used SNES etc on other TV's.

Everyone talks about hooking up a PC to a TV or playing over a monitor, who the fuck wants to play retro games over a keyboard or some shitty 3rd party controller? I'll admit, the retron5 controller isn't perfect, but it's far better than most other options out there. Including the vast majority of 3rd party wii classic controllers.

As well, the wireless controls and ability to power on the retron remotely is excellent because all of my components are inside a built-in. Getting up and pushing power buttons/connecting controllers is for peasants.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 12:10:48 2015 No.2349263

>>2349252

>Everyone talks about hooking up a PC to a TV or playing over a monitor, who the fuck wants to play retro games over a keyboard or some shitty 3rd party controller? I'll admit, the retron5 controller isn't perfect, but it's far better than most other options out there. Including the vast majority of 3rd party wii classic controllers.

You can use a many different controllers while emulating, including hooking up the controllers from whatever console you are emulating. I use a Dualshock 3 and I'm really happy with it.

>Getting up and pushing power buttons/connecting controllers is for peasants.

Now you're just trying too hard. I guess you're too poor to collect the actual game consoles

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 12:18:04 2015 No.2349278
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>>2336065
OP of that thread here. (Not that anyone here seems to believe me..)

How many times do I have to keep posting it. It wasn't a shill thread, I was honestly curious and needed some space cleared out. I didn't want to have an SNES, Genesis, and NES if I didn't need to.

/vr/ cleared my doubts however when they explained it only dumps roms, and that wouldn't be any good. So I decided against it.

/vr/ turned it into a meme and someone started spamming it after my intial thread. So now everytime someone posts "Retron #" It gets this "my wife" nonsense.

I feel like I unintetionally started something horrible, and I hate it. It's plaguing /vr/ and making this a daily post.

It's almost as bad as the fucking goodra poster on /vp/.

I'm sorry guys.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 12:20:16 2015 No.2349281

I've got 6-7 consoles sitting in a box in storage. If I could build a specific unit to house 10+ consoles Id set somthing up. However with the amount of cable, power adapters, controller cables, etc. It isn't oractical and looks like shit whether it be in an office or living room.

My Two complaints about the retron5 are 1) I wish the interface was a little better, it's a big slugish but as has been discussed, it's basicaly an emulator itself so it was somewhat expected.

2) prior to ordering it I thought it played N64 games, didn't even look over the specs that much in my research which was a mistake, but so be it. Other than that I'm quite happy with it.

For those who don't have it, or don't think the upconverted digital signal looks better than the original console, I will take some pictures when I am home and post them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 12:49:31 2015 No.2349331 >>2349278 Hum, something smells fishy. Why would you keep posting it when everybody keep posting the same explanations in those thread, which should have answered those questions you had many times already.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:06:34 2015 No.2349352

>>2349331
I didn't. I posted one time, Either last year or the year before.

I've posted these counter replies every so often when I see these threads.

Every other RETRON 5 thread has been someone getting their kicks by riling /vr/ up by posting it every day.

I asked an honest and simple question about the Retron 3, and then it devolved into this mess you see now.

If I had the archived thread, i'd gladly screencap the "yous"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:21:35 2015 No.2349369 I like the concept of the retron, but I hate what it actually does. IF it did what it advertised, i'd buy it in a heartbeat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:30:57 2015 No.2349383 >>2349281 No shit it doesn't play N64 games. N64 emulation is a clusterfuck.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 13:57:10 2015 No.2349423

>>2349252
>Everyone talks about hooking up a PC to a TV or playing over a monitor, who the fuck wants to play retro games over a keyboard or some shitty 3rd party controller?

>Implying it's hard to hook up a controller converter for most any system
>implying modern systems' controllers aren't close to plug & play

If you can't play emulated games on your couch that's your own damn fault.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:01:30 2015 No.2349429

>>2349252
>Everyone talks about hooking up a PC to a TV or playing over a monitor, who the fuck wants to play retro games over a keyboard or some shitty 3rd party controller?

Dude, Dualshock 3 controller. It's not hard.

Nobody plays emulation with a keyboard if they don't have to. That's stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:03:18 2015 No.2349430 >>2349429 Keyboard is great for RPGs and Shooters. Precise digital input.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:10:01 2015 No.2349438 >>2349429 a PS4 pad is even easier (and is a better controller IMO), so if you have the cash it's worth getting one even if you never intend to get the system itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:11:57 2015 No.2349442 >>2349438 can motionjoy detect ps4?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:14:56 2015 No.2349446 >>2349442 It uses it's own little program (http://ds4windows.com/)), so I don't actually know. I DO know I've never had a problem controlling any given emulator or Steam game with it, though.

>>	Razz Thu Apr 16 14:16:41 2015 No.2349449 >>2349442 No, but it can install spyware and keyloggers if you're into that sort of thing.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:34:52 2015 No.2349470

The bottom line is that if you're not willing to spend the money on a cart collection, or at the very least, buy the carts you want to play, then obviously the Retcon5 isn't worth it. Prior to buying the retcon I probably had 45-55 carts I've bought over the last 10 years. And seemingly with the way the prices are going it was more of an invesment than a gaming experiance.

I'm 29 right now, grew up with renting carts from video stores etc. I've got the nostalgia that comes with holding and playing the original carts with the retcon.

If you have no connection and no interest in the actual carts, then of course it makes more sense to use an emulator. With prices of "good" SNES games at a minimum of $25 going up to earthbound type $200 prices it doesn't make much sense to make that type of investment for most people.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:46:11 2015 No.2349486

>>2349470
I guess I don't understand the point of having carts if you don't play them on the original consoles. I seriously cannot wrap my head around that logic. Just get a soft modded Wii or build a cheap emulation computer, both options are less than a Retron and have other benefits as well.

I think it's a neat device and all, but you're fooling yourself thinking there's anything authentic about the hardware. Just owning a bunch of carts is what makes you happy, that I get. Why not go the extra step and get an original NES, Genesis, etc.

Oh yeah, this thing can't play TG-16 either, or SMS games without a converter.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 14:53:10 2015 No.2349507

Said in a previous message, I own all the consoles I have carts for. However, it is just not practical anymore to try and use them withHDTV's, especially when they are wall mounted.

When I build my own house I'll create a room or build my office in such a way that im running every cable imaginable behind my TV's, mount a CRTV into a built in, etc.

These days though it just doesn't make sense if you want to play these games with any regularity to try and hook them up on a wall mounted TV. And as I said, the picture is terrible when using the original console on an HDTV.

I need to look into controller extension cables for the SNES and NES, once I have those, outside of the initial boot up sequence, playing the carts on the retcon will be virtually indenticle to the original console outside of the improved picture quality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:08:18 2015 No.2349537 File: 872 KB, 326x300, 1359304863437.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2349507 >playing the carts on the retcon will be virtually indenticle to the original console outside of the improved picture quality

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:52:31 2015 No.2349617

>>2349507
>Said in a previous message, I own all the consoles I have carts for. However, it is just not practical anymore to try and use them withHDTV's, especially when they are wall mounted.

XRGB-mini Framemister or the XRBG-3 solves the whole consoles -> HDTV really well. Only gotta run one cable to it too.

>playing the carts on the retcon will be virtually indenticle to the original console outside of the improved picture quality.
Except where some games don't work, or you have sound/graphic bugs, or the added framebuffer lag, or wiping your save files every so often by a bug. Other than that, practically identical!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 15:56:42 2015 No.2349627 >>2348836 Item A is a Wii Item B is a Wii They're totally different tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 16:05:49 2015 No.2349643 >>2349617 >XRBG-3 >$300 Youch. No thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 16:14:12 2015 No.2349656 >>2349617 People like you sound like they have first-hand experience playing the device and aren't just parroting what they've heard on 4chan! Bless you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 16:52:19 2015 No.2349734 >>2349656 People like you sound like they work for retron. Fuck off.

>>	Moar Thu Apr 16 17:21:27 2015 No.2349785 >>2349278 Retron 3 is more preferrably to Retron 5.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:25:52 2015 No.2349793

>>2349656
Despite what you may believe, I have a Retron 3 and a XRGB-mini. My roomate got the Retron 5. Similar to an anon above, we were also pretty heartbroken that Sonic 3 with Sonic & Knuckles didn't work, though that appears to be fixed now.

We didn't lose a save file yet, but the fear of that (and the issues with games that may not work) have us just using the emulation box. Wish we knew it was just an instable emulator before he bought it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:30:20 2015 No.2349803 WTF? You can literally download full romsets for older consoles and get emulatorz on the net. Paying for some crap device with dubious purpose? Why? If you just want genuine stuff. get a console (tough luck, since they're getting rarer).

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 17:58:03 2015 No.2349860 >>2349734 >post unfounded critique >have veracity of critique called into question >"blargh you must work for retron" /vr/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:32:23 2015 No.2349909 I still don't understand the point of inserting real cartridges and then emulating them

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:46:14 2015 No.2349925 So a TL; DR would be?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:48:15 2015 No.2349928 >>2349909 For some: Hipster cred For others: Nostalgic placebo For most: Lack of understanding of what it really is

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 18:52:10 2015 No.2349929 File: 27 KB, 420x294, 7db50fad603d2a3c0657e7c50645d00f[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2349909 but if you plug in a cartridge it's real and therefore better than an emulator

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 19:22:12 2015 No.2349979 >>2336024 dont buy it. got one and it deleted my -perfect- ff6 save right away. was pissed and returned the fuker . waste of money

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 19:32:40 2015 No.2350003 Lets get this shit started: >Paying for emulators

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 19:33:42 2015 No.2350007 >>2349925 People buy emulators encased in plastic for big monies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:02:17 2015 No.2350201 people justifying not spending money on collectable items = you're probably too poor to get in on it anyways. Why spend money on anything?

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:09:05 2015 No.2350225

>>2350201
>people justifying not spending money on collectable items = you're probably too poor to get in on it anyways.

No, son, that's one of MANY possible explanations. Whatever "side" you find yourself on, y'all need to stop arguing based on what you deem to be singular absolutes.

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:37:46 2015 No.2350293

>>2336024
My wife and I are proud owners of a RetroN V. Our old consoles took up too much space, looked worn and didn't fit with the rest of our house. It's great, some of our friends are real retro gaming freaks and the rest appreciate the wacky novelty value of it. Right now my wife and myself have been playing street racing on the snes, and the dsp effects work great! The best driving game on the snes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:51:59 2015 No.2350324 >>2349627 If you don't understand the difference between a new Wii out of the box and a Wii that's been modded there's just no hope for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:56:53 2015 No.2350331 >>2350324 The difference is about 10 minutes

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 21:56:58 2015 No.2350332 >>2350324 That's understood, but the analogy is still wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 00:59:38 2015 No.2350564 >>2350332 Only in your personal "reality"

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:20:24 2015 No.2350587

mediocre logistics but admittedly convenient. my 14 year old brother realllllly likes my older games and comes over all the time and takes consoles home with him. I bought him one for his birthday in February because our mom is super picky about the stuff that goes in our house(doesn't like clutter) and the idea of me buying him originals of those evil consoles that used to clutter my room and turning his the same made her very upset.

Anyway it's much prettier than having an array of old consoles and while I would never use one it's great for him and I'm happy he doesn't have to steal my stuff any more. I let him keep 10 games at a time and trade them back to me when he's done.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:21:29 2015 No.2350590 >>2350587 with that said, there's really no point in buying it over originals if you aren't in a weird situation like a mom/gf/bf/whatever not wanting clutter. You're hardly saving any money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:22:48 2015 No.2350592 >>2339268 Original Consoles+Frameister Any PC made in the last decade with RetroArch An Android stick with Retroarch

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:30:44 2015 No.2350601 >>2349803 >download full romsets Where

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 01:51:26 2015 No.2350620 >>2350601 archive.org has a ton of No-Intro sets, sure they're a bit dated by now but it doesn't take much to update it on your computer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 02:21:10 2015 No.2350640 >>2336065 I wonder if the person to say it first was not being ironic. If that were the case I feel bad for him. To be constantly reminded of your ignorance with a meme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 09:22:03 2015 No.2350965 >>2350640 I think it was the guy who posted pics of four slice toasters

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 09:31:47 2015 No.2350980 >>2349278 >>2349352 How do you explain this? >>2337678

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 09:40:13 2015 No.2350995 >>2350640 Incorrect.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 10:03:01 2015 No.2351025

Ya'll realize you're just trolling each other, right? /vr/, as a whole, isn't dumb enough to drop greenbacks on this boondongle. Yeah, there may be a couple suckers, but not enough to really warrant these threads. All these threads turn into is meme throwing and insults. If we wanted to be /v/, we'd be over at /v/.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 10:09:52 2015 No.2351035

>>2350590
Yea, "in a weird situation" like living in somewhere other than mommys house where you don't want 4 consoles with wires hanging out everywhere...lol

From the sounds of it most of you live in a mess..honestly like anyone with a wall mounted TV ain't using old consoles.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 11:42:37 2015 No.2351165

>>2351035
>Yea, "in a weird situation" like living in somewhere other than mommys house where you don't want 4 consoles with wires hanging out everywhere...lol
>From the sounds of it most of you live in a mess..honestly like anyone with a wall mounted TV ain't using old consoles.

There should only be one (maybe 2) cables running to the wall mounted TV, and that's the cable from the receiver.

Anyone who's into retro games enough to want the physical carts is using a line doubler, routing the output to a receiver, and then up to the TV. Those into retro games that don't care about authenticity are using emulators on an emulator PC, again, being routed through the receiver.

I've not met a single person with a wall mounted TV that doesn't consolidate peripherals into one or two lines that run to the TV. It'd be a wreck to have a sound system, BluRay/DVD player, XBox, Playstation, etc connected otherwise. And old consoles are no exception.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 13:12:34 2015 No.2351290

Only until recently have higher end receivers had the ability to convert an analog signal to digital and send it via HDMI. I've had both the Yamaha VX-667 and Pioneer elite receivers purchased roughly 4-6 years ago and neither could convert an analog video signal to digital. I could get Audio as an analog source sent to me speakers but even with the first generation wii, I had to manually run a component cable from the wii to my projector then split off the Audio to the receiver.

As well, it's just not practical to have even 1 additional component for me because neither my home theatre setup nor my office setup has additional room for another console. That's why the retcon makes so much sense.

And honestly in this discussion the upconversion is overlooked so greatly where as I believe it's one of the main reasons to buy the retcon.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 13:21:55 2015 No.2351298

>>2351290
>And honestly in this discussion the upconversion is overlooked so greatly where as I believe it's one of the main reasons to buy the retcon.

It's not overlooked. The games are being emulated, and it's well understood that emulated games can have image enhancements. The criticism is that people are paying for emulators that require you to stick your cart into it first 'just because'. It really is a worst of both worlds in terms of limits and restrictions between Console and Emulator, except it does offer a false sense of authenticity because you can pretend it's actually a real console.

It should be stated though that people can blow money or whatever makes them feel the appropriate nostalgia they want. And the Retron company is capitalizing on them, which is good for them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 13:23:32 2015 No.2351302 >>2351298 >The criticism is that people are paying for emulators that require you to stick your cart into it first 'just because'. Huh? It still loads the ROM from the cartridge like a normal console would.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 13:35:49 2015 No.2351319

>>2351290
Correction: You can't upscale as well as an emulator. It's an emulator box that you can't customize, so you can't switch emulators/shaders/etc on a per-game basis like an emulator box. So it's actually worse in that regards.

>>2351302
A normal console uses the circuitry and chips on the cart, in addition to the ROM data (FX chip anyone?). Retron 5 is a rom dumper that emulates the game afterwords. So it's exactly like a normal emulator but it requires you delete and reload your rom from a cart on every play. That's a significant artificial limitation over an emulator machine, that offers no gain other than 'feel goods'.

Anonymous Fri Apr 17 13:48:55 2015 No.2351328

>>2336024
looks like the save file wiping may be because of the irregular/higher voltage rates being sent the cart, instead of the expected and constant 5 and 3 volts used in the original hardware chain. i dont think carts were built to tolerate a dump/load at the rate and method being used.

wonder if we'll see this killing carts after a few months/years of use...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 14:50:41 2015 No.2351381 >>2351025 >constant concrete evidence that /vr/ is shit >"cmon guys, this isn't really /vr/!"

>>	13L Fri Apr 17 14:59:03 2015 No.2351386 >>2336034 Totally agree retrocon 3 is superior

>>	13L Fri Apr 17 15:00:11 2015 No.2351389 I mean retron. Dumb spellcheck

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 17:33:25 2015 No.2351628 I got a Retron 3 just to play Super Metrid and for playing my Japanese Mega Drive games without ripping apart my Genesis. I intended to play NES eventually but meh, never getting around to that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 13:54:44 2015 No.2353087 Is there a version that does n64?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 14:04:32 2015 No.2353095 >>2353087 There's been no N64 clones as of yet nor any android consoles (like the Retron5) that use N64 carts with emulation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 14:05:03 2015 No.2353097 Have retron three. Its ok. The controlers are ir so kiunda ass.But their are places to hook up controlors of all the systems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 20:07:45 2015 No.2353694 >>2353095 >use N64 carts with emulation Hopefully this will never happen

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 11:38:37 2015 No.2354530 >>2353694 It will. Give it time. In 5 ish years when N64 was 'baby's first game system', we'll see a huge market of morons with money emerge who also don't know they are buying an emulator in disguise.

Anonymous Sun Apr 19 12:24:35 2015 No.2354575
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>all the inauthenticity of emulation, along with the inconvenience of cartridges
No thanks. And let me add my support for these threads to be deleted and the instigator banned.

Anonymous Sun Apr 19 15:19:10 2015 No.2354854 [DELETED]

>>2354575
this is such BULLSHIT.

You don't like the product we are discussing OK.
THat's great.
Then go to another thread.

Retron is totally VR on topic, just cause you don't like it doesn't mean we can't talk about it in peace. Some of us have wives you know

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 22:40:40 2015 No.2355567 The 5 has a lot of offer but the most I've ever needed was a 3. I welcome seeing it support handhelds though, that's kinda rad. I don't own an SNES and I'm not hunting a GBA player

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 23:26:19 2015 No.2355639 Retron is just repackaged RetroArch. But much worse as it does the whole physical cart shit. Just setup RetroArch on a Wii or a laptop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 10:29:44 2015 No.2356464 >>2355567 > I welcome seeing it support handhelds though, that's kinda rad. There have been handheld emulators for quite some time now. It's not a surprised that they installed them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 16:59:02 2015 No.2357065 File: 351 KB, 2048x1152, 11130383_716646955110984_721927921467393876_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2343574 there's a guy here selling this famiclone yes it's a clone

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 18:38:14 2015 No.2357184 >>2357065 Aside from the English text it looks really authentic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 19:18:19 2015 No.2357253 >>2336024 It'd be cool if it was cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 19:21:57 2015 No.2357262 >>2357065 Old famiclones tend to work pretty well with some minor audio glitches, and possibly running at 50hz. Nothing swapping the PPU and CPU for a NES set won't fix. Newer clones, NOACs most of the time, are utter shite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 19:57:45 2015 No.2357321 >>2357184 >>2357262 I'd buy it but i ain't got no money now. It's a bid on a facebook group and it's going for 25$ atm

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 20:51:47 2015 No.2357424 File: 2.13 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_8851.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Retcon5 on 1080p Sony NX711, slike dees games aint lookin like dis on da console

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:41:28 2015 No.2357614 >>2336024 you can already emulate on your phone

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:43:25 2015 No.2357617 >>2357450 >>2357447 >>2357445 >>2357440 >>2357436 >>2357434 >>2357424 Is it suppose to look like garbage?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:47:54 2015 No.2357623 File: 6 KB, 271x206, 1382938353687.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Oh boy a retron 5 thread >Ctrl f wife >41 results /vr/...I'd let you have me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:48:55 2015 No.2357626 >>2357617 You were expecting garbage to look like something other than garbage?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 20 23:59:03 2015 No.2357645 >>2357626 I didn't know it was that bad...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:10:57 2015 No.2357652 >>2340685 >pride

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:48:39 2015 No.2357695

>>2357424
>>2357434
>>2357436
>>2357440
>>2357445
>>2357447
>>2357450
Jesus Christ, what is this muddy and blobby mess? Why do people think these filters look good? What drives you to want everything made of mushy blobs instead of the original pixel art?

Not like Retron 5's unfiltered mode is any better. I've seen reviews and examples showing that it can't even do nearest neighbor properly. What a fucking piece of garbage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:54:25 2015 No.2357702 >>2357623 And you're not the first person to post that observation, either. Good going, champ. >>2357424 I have to believe these are shopped, does it actually look like that?

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:55:37 2015 No.2357704

>>2357695
It's because you're not supposed to pay attention, or even notice, the pixels. On CRTs from the /vr/ era, 4th-gen games actually look good and even somewhat realistic/like an actual cartoon using the right games and TVs; the lower-resolution and scan-lines smoothed the image out to create a nicer image.

Filters are an attempt to clean up the image on emulators and/or flat-screens, who don't have the natural blurring of CRTs, by digitally blurring the individual pixels to create smooth lines. Done in moderation this works well for some games, but can ruin the aesthetics of some (particularly those who went for a "realistic" approach.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:56:41 2015 No.2357705 >>2357702 The Retron 5 has a number of built-in filers, but you have to activate them yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 00:57:57 2015 No.2357708 >>2357704 A crt looks nothing like that fucking mess in >>2357450 >>2357447 >>2357445 >>2357440 >>2357436 >>2357434 >>2357424

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 01:03:25 2015 No.2357716

>>2357704
Well yeah, CRTs will always be the best way to go. That's how I do it. For emulation there are filters that attempt to replicate the CRT effect.

What I don't understand are the blobby filters like shown in the pictures here. What's the point? It just turns it into a mess. Everything just melts into everything else. Even nearest neighbor (scaled by integer, of course) is better than that shit.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:12:33 2015 No.2358198

Lol yea, cause everyone still got CRT's laying around...the same people complaining about the $200

Obviously at this point people just hate to hate. Clearly it's not a perfect system but it's far more convenient than hooking up a PC to your TV screen, going through your emulator setup, syncing BT controllers, etc

And to the people who think those images look of poor quality? Lol like, I don't exactly get what youre looking for in playing a cart that is 20+ years old? I've got two excellent TV's both calibirated nearly perfectly outside of professional tools, I know extensively about color scapes, upscaling, etc and I think it looks great. So knowing nothing regarding TV technology and playing in your moms basement on an old CRT must look farrrr superior... Lol

Poor kids, just cause they was poor kids

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:18:52 2015 No.2358207 >>2358198 You forgot to mention how great 2 player co-op is with your wife in double dragon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:20:08 2015 No.2358210 >>2358198 Cart games, or any games don't look worse as they get older. 20 years or two years the picture quality is the same.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:22:52 2015 No.2358215 >>2358210 Yea..for people using the same TV's they had 20 years ago. Not one person I know still even has a CRT outside of basement storage maybe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:34:48 2015 No.2358224 >>2358215 Why do you belittle others preferences?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 10:40:35 2015 No.2358228 >>2358210 As well, I think there's a big argument as to signal degradation. Whether it be with the circuitry in the console, the carts, or the cables.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 13:19:39 2015 No.2358415 >>2358198 >I spent many Bison Dollars for a locked-down save-erasing eventually-cart-destroying emulator box, and need to justify it. LOLURALLPOOR At least your wife approves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 13:24:18 2015 No.2358420 Lol..sorry but I don't have to justify a $200 purchase.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 13:38:21 2015 No.2358442 >>2349470 >If you have no connection and no interest in the actual carts, then of course it makes more sense to use an emulator. The Retron 5 IS an emulator you shill

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:32:22 2015 No.2358524

>>2349470
>I'm 29 right now, grew up with renting carts from video stores etc. I've got the nostalgia that comes with holding and playing the original carts with the retcon.

Then hook up an emulator PC and set the cart right on top of it when you play. You can then have all the perks without damaging your carts. It's just a rom dumper anyway.

If that's not enough placebo for you, I guess cut a small hole in a box and stuff it in there? Christ.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:43:00 2015 No.2358538

>>2358442
Lol like at this point it's just arguing minor semantics. Ok it's an emulator..an emulator that is loading the original data from the original cart..

So...again..what's the argument? That you can do the same on a computer for free, or the cost of a controller?

Like I don't get this emulator argument, it's like people arguing that they shouldn't have to pay for bottled water. You aren't paying for the water, you're paying for conveinence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 14:55:41 2015 No.2358557 File: 309 KB, 1000x562, IMG_0440.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2358198 >>2358215 >>2349470 >>2358538 >like like like like like My real snes on a LCD.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:00:31 2015 No.2358572

>>2358228
I don't understand. The age of the cart does not lessen its ability to output perfect image. A console, however, can have caps go bad that can reduce picture quality (I think the SNES can get some wavy interference, right?), but this is easily fixed by replacing said capacitors.

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:05:37 2015 No.2358576

>>2358538
Because you're using an emulator that ALSO requires a physical cart to operate. That's the 'worst of both worlds' argument. Not sure how that's not sinking in.

Also, having your cart undergo a full/fast rom dump on every boot up is bad for the cart. It's well known that rom read/writers wear down and damage the cart rom over time. So, you're bring your favorite games to an early grave.

And that's ignoring the whole 'its known to delete your saves from the cart' problem.

It's not like these things haven't been stated over and over in the thread here...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:16:09 2015 No.2358583 >>2358557 Are you running the signal through an upscaler or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:19:57 2015 No.2358590 >>2358583 snes > xrgb 3 > Sony w7

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:27:39 2015 No.2358603

>>2349442
>motionjoy
Don't use that shit, man. Seriously. Not just for of the potential malware risk but because that piece of shit program fucks with bluetooth drivers and causes your PC to BSOD by unplugging a controller. If you want to use a DS3 controller, use: http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInput-Wrapper-for-DS3-and-Play-com-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller

Dualshock 4 works out of the box on a PC. You can even sync it using bluetooth and Windows will detect it. Here's what it won't do right away
>You can't control the lightbar, which will blink orange when charging up or white when pairing via bluetooth
>The touchpad won't work
>Some modern games only work with Xbox 360 controllers and won't recognize the PS4 controller (emulators do though)
If you want the controller to behave like a 360 controller, change the color of the lightbar (or turn it off) and be able to use the touchpad, you get either DS4windows - http://www.ds4windows.com/ or Inputmapper - https://inputmapper.com/..

Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:41:45 2015 No.2358618

>>2358603
I’m just going to make copy paste for this now. Seeing this far too much. Add more later.

None of the PlayStation controllers use the voltage supplied from an usb port. You will be supplying under/overvoltage to the controller. That includes all the PS1 contollers along with DS 1, DS 2, DS 3, and DS 4.

Now if you want to ruin your controller go right ahead. The controllers will work from a usb port.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:47:13 2015 No.2358627 >>2358557 Lol..is this suppose to look better than my pics frm the retcon? Nice banding..lol Also in terms of deleting saves, I've played completely tgrough both link to the past and illusion of Gaia using the cart saves, no deleting, no problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 15:50:14 2015 No.2358631 >>2358627 >Lol..is this suppose to look better than my pics frm the retcon? Nice banding..lol >banding You're an idiot. If you're not trolling then damn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 16:41:37 2015 No.2358695 >>2358631 So it's suppose to look better? I don't get it. Do you understand what banding is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 17:12:46 2015 No.2358741 File: 210 KB, 928x423, The-way-it-was-meant-to-be-played.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2357450 >>2357447 >>2357445 >>2357440 >>2357436 >>2357434 >>2357424

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 17:21:22 2015 No.2358757 >>2358618 So charging a DS4 by connecting it to a PC via USB is bad for the controller? I didn't know that. I've never done it anyway because I charge mine up through the USB ports on my PS4 and PS3, but it's good to know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 17:41:09 2015 No.2358782 >>2358695 I don't think you do nor do you have a clue how these games are suppose to look. Born after CRTs it seems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 17:42:15 2015 No.2358783 >>2341402 oh man now I'm remembering wendesu

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 17:45:34 2015 No.2358786 >>2358557 That looks pretty awesome anon, very nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 18:08:16 2015 No.2358818 >>2357716 It tries to make the lines cleaner and "more HD."

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 18:10:31 2015 No.2358825 >>2358627 If you actually think this >>2357424 looks better than this >>2358557 You should kill yourself. Personally I don't like any kind of filter, but that blurry shit shown in the first image is fucking disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 18:50:20 2015 No.2358898 >>2358741 I want to fuck 90's TV Cammy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 20:05:28 2015 No.2358985 >>2336024 Buy Raspberry Pi-like + crt tv + Lakka Will be more cheap than this. If you Already have some games just biy the console.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 20:14:38 2015 No.2358993 >>2357424 >>2357434 >>2357436 >>2357440 >>2357445 >>2357447 >>2357450 >Liking how this looks >Being on /vr/ Is this /ck/ version of "What kind of steak sauce should I use on my steak?" or /ic/ version of "How's my anime character?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 21 20:25:47 2015 No.2359014 >>2358993 Worse because 6th genners actually think that's what retro games should look like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 01:13:56 2015 No.2359468 >>2337127 Xbox at goodwill for $30. Install coin ops 6

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 01:39:37 2015 No.2359487 >>2336024 >Paying for emulators

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 01:46:37 2015 No.2359492 >>2358985 I have the consoles, games and retron 5. You mad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 08:03:06 2015 No.2359856 >>2359468 >$30 xbox Not retro or you're an eBaby

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 11:23:54 2015 No.2360110 >>2359492 Why would anybody be mad that you wasted your own money?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:24:38 2015 No.2360327 >>2360110 A $2 bag of chips is a "waste of money" if you can't afford it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:47:55 2015 No.2360373 >>2360327 Chips are a better investment than the retron 5

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 13:48:36 2015 No.2360375 >>2359856 It and the Wii make cheap and functional emulation boxes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 14:17:30 2015 No.2360427 >>2359856 >Not retro You can bring up discussion on the Xbox, Wii, PSP, etc if it's for the use of emulating retro games as far as I know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 22 15:43:03 2015 No.2360610 >>2358627 >256 color >banding you're an idiot. google banding before you look so stupid.

Anonymous Wed Apr 22 15:58:13 2015 No.2360647

>>2359856
you're an idiot

>>2359492
>being the idiot that pays 200 for a 'mint' copy of earthbound
>without knowing it's a reproduction cart
>buying emutron 5
>asking others if they're 'mad'
a winner is you

>>2359468
wii is better cheap pick, easier to hack and more reliable

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 00:36:31 2015 No.2361413 How are the Coleco and Intellivison Flashbacks. Are they worth $20?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 00:37:17 2015 No.2361414 >>2361413 Mandatory 24 hour bump huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 02:04:01 2015 No.2361497 >>2361414 T-they stop paying me if I dn't...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 04:28:06 2015 No.2361609 >>2342902 Hey dude, long time no see. I can't remember if that's the pic I corrected the coloring for or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 04:32:23 2015 No.2361615 >>2361497 Why don't you just get your wife to do it for you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 04:39:04 2015 No.2361618 File: 50 KB, 398x312, 1405993933245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2357424 WHAT THE FUCK

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:13:11 2015 No.2361715 >>2358741 >>2358898 i want to fuck stained glass... wait, what?...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 08:35:53 2015 No.2361725 File: 59 KB, 200x231, 200px-LikeLike2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2358557 He's been playing a lot of Zelda with his wife recently.

Anonymous Thu Apr 23 15:35:25 2015 No.2362270

So I got one on Amazon, and it arrived yesterday. I returned it today.

It worked, it really did. I even liked the filters. But the system really really does hold onto your games once you insert them! I was legitimately worried I was going to break my games when I tried to remove them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 23 15:52:05 2015 No.2362315 >>2362270 You've gotta pull them out from one side

Anonymous Fri Apr 24 01:26:51 2015 No.2363305
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>>2361618

>all this time bitching about what the games should or shouldn't look like
>all this bitching
>all those games you could be playing on your emulators, consoles, emulator-consoles

Fuck man. No one on /vr can just enjoy games anymore - or accept the fact that hey, I'm glad someone is using the Retron to enjoy some good retro games. I'd be glad anyone is enjoying some Retro games. Even with their wife

In all seriousness though, just fucking enjoy games however you like and don't let some elitist or casual scum deter you.

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