>Mother 1 remake being made as an Earthbound romhack >No Zelda 1 in A Link To the Past engine >No Metroid 1 in Super Metroid's engine Why

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Anonymous Mon Mar 23 03:51:14 2015 No.2303681 [Reply] [Original]

>Mother 1 remake being made as an Earthbound romhack
>No Zelda 1 in A Link To the Past engine
>No Metroid 1 in Super Metroid's engine
Why

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 03:58:10 2015 No.2303685 because only earthbound fans are autistic enough to care

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:02:06 2015 No.2303695 >>2303681 >>No Zelda 1 in A Link To the Past engine Anon, I...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:04:43 2015 No.2303696 >>2303681 There's a Zelda 1 remake for the Satellaview

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:05:15 2015 No.2303697

>>2303685
>Mother fanbase
>more autistic than Zelda
Okay Mother fanbase can be pretty bad at points, but come the fuck on, we're talking about the Zelda fanbase here. They're about 10 feet above the average Sonicfag and 15 above a pokemaniac. and Pokemaniacs get hype for Nintendo's official remakes.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Mar 23 04:06:42 2015 No.2303698 >>2303696 How big are the differences in overworld and dungeon layouts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:09:07 2015 No.2303704 >>2303696 Does it have diagonal movement? That's the most important part.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:09:55 2015 No.2303708 >>2303698 No clue, I just know it exists

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:18:27 2015 No.2303716 >>2303697 Zelda fanbase is norms, pure and simple. Liking Zelda is like liking the Beatles.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:28:03 2015 No.2303728

>>2303716
I don't know, it seems like Zelda is top of the barrel in terms of "games that some people obsess over way too much"
There are norms in nearly every fanbase, it's just that some of them get the types of people you were calling the Mother fanbase, and Zelda is actually huge victim of that
>see Majora's mask fandom
>see OoT/MM/WW remake sales

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:41:42 2015 No.2303743 >>2303685 >autism Epin meme my /b/rother.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 05:03:35 2015 No.2303760

My favorite part of this is OP's whole.
>Why aren't people making these things for free?

I'll give you the breakdown.

1) Its fanfiction tier. You will attract the worst kind of people to this project. The kind of people who would rewrite dialogue "for the better" and would no doubt do stupid shit like make it cryptically hard for the sake of it. Source: Zelda: Parellel Towers

2) Its a huge undertaking. Everyone thinks making a game is fucking easy, but its not. Theres a huge amount of time investment, and you'd have to remake a lot of assets for things that simply aren't in alttp that are in zelda.

3) You will get Cease and Desist'd by Nintendo at some point. So why bother? I never understand why people even do this, combine this with 1 and 2 and you wonder why people don't do it?

I would much rather someone try and make something new iwth their time then waste it doing unofficial remakes that are going to be inherently terrible.

tldr; Waste of time. If you want to do it do it yourself you fucking pleb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:19:13 2015 No.2303801 Both are already done. Go to #metconst and ask for Retroid

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:20:36 2015 No.2303805 >>2303760 >You will get Cease and Desist'd by Nintendo No you won't. This has never happened to anyone making a romhack. Gimme a break.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:27:43 2015 No.2303806 >>2303805 This. Crimson Echoes got that shit from Square though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:30:10 2015 No.2303808 >>2303806 That was a little different. And the C&D was a lie, anyways. They had no intention of finishing that project.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:30:13 2015 No.2303809 >>2303681 >No Metroid 1 in Super Metroid's engine Zero Mission was essentially this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:51:17 2015 No.2303829 >>2303808 > C&D was a lie whoa seriously? Source?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 07:43:10 2015 No.2303864 >>2303809 Super Metroid is Metroid 1 in Super Metroid's engine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:22:26 2015 No.2303987 File: 18 KB, 333x327, 1421858630909.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2303864

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:29:03 2015 No.2303995 >>2303829 Seconded. Sauce or or you're full of shit. As for OP, Mother 1 doesn't _need_ to be remade. It _needs_ a proper bug-free translation (preferably done on the NES version).

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:36:58 2015 No.2304004 >>2303995 >It _needs_ a proper bug-free translation it has one

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:41:42 2015 No.2304013 >>2303864 Came here to say this Hack out everything with the baby metroid and voila, it's a Metroid I remake

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:44:26 2015 No.2304017 >>2304004 No, it doesn't. Tomato's has several bugs, one of which, though seldom-encountered, will crash the game. The others are text-overflows, and they have no place in a respectable translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:46:58 2015 No.2304023 >>2303681 a Metroid II remake is happening. Its giving II the super treatment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:55:44 2015 No.2304030 >>2304023 Wow, maybe next they can give Zelda 2 the OOT treatment, or Simon's Quest the SotN treatment Then I can kill myself in peace knowing that there truly is no god

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 10:58:57 2015 No.2304032

>>2303697
No, not a chance. I'm not a huge fan of either series but liking Zelda is borderline normalfag, only nintendo game series that's more socially acceptable is Mario. Motherfags are generally as autistic as sonic kids, just far less numerous.

Pokemon is worse than both in terms of fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:04:49 2015 No.2304041 File: 917 KB, 1000x627, The Hagia Sophia.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2304032 This man speaks the truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:07:15 2015 No.2304043 >>2303681 I would also like these made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:11:32 2015 No.2304048 >>2303760 I don't understand how a 1:1 remake can turn into anything other than just a that, a remake. Nintendo has never C&D'd anything either as far as i know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:19:38 2015 No.2304056 >>2303681 Because you haven't made it yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:22:40 2015 No.2304058 >>2304056 That was unexpected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:39:38 2015 No.2304075 >>2303681 >Metroid 1 in Super Metroid's engine This would be great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 11:47:27 2015 No.2304087 >>2303697 Zelda fanbase comes down to knick·knacks and t-shirts mostly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 12:14:15 2015 No.2304110 >>2303681 >implying Stone Tablets doesn't exist >implying Zero Mission doesn't exist >implying we don't have a better engine to make zelda games out of than LTtP OP you're not making sense. Shouldn't this shit be in /rhg/ anyway?

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 12:42:12 2015 No.2304150

>>2303716
>>2304032
>>2304087
I really hate to use the autism buzzword but I can't think of another word to fit the discussion. It's a very normal thing to like Zelda, but there is a minority of people who take it REALLY seriously, and they're autistic as hell. Look up any timeline discussion for proof.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 12:44:40 2015 No.2304156 File: 834 KB, 800x1200, William _Bill The Butcher_ Cutting.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2304150 Just because you loathe something that does not automatically make it autism. Get a fucking dictionary.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 12:50:51 2015 No.2304174

>>2304156
He isn't talking about things he doesn't like, he is talking about people who live and breath Zelda like if they had to explain all the intricacies of the storyline and the characters.

You know, like those hard core Star Wars or Sonic or Dragonball fans.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:05:02 2015 No.2304202

>>2304156
Except he's calling something autistic that is autistic. Just because it's the newest buzzword doesn't mean it can't be used properly.

"Get a dictionary."
This is what the shut-in virgins in my dorm freshman year who failed out of their classes from playing WoW too often told me and my friends when called each other faggots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:12:28 2015 No.2304215 >>2303760 AM2R is not fan-fiction tier. It's actually looking to be a great Metroid 2 remake.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:23:15 2015 No.2304231
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>>2304202

>This is what the shut-in virgins in my dorm freshman year who failed out of their classes from playing WoW too often told me and my friends when called each other faggots.

Explain to me why I would give a single nickel-plated shit about your no doubt fascinating college years.

>>2304174

>You know, like those hard core Star Wars or Sonic or Dragonball fans.

I'm wondering why you care. Seriously; why the hell would you waste your time worrying about inconsequential bullshit like that? It can't be because you find it pleasant, so why do you even give it a second thought?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:42:28 2015 No.2304264 >>2304231 I can feel the gay in every word you typed. Pls post your favorite trenchcoat

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 13:59:01 2015 No.2304291 Zelda Classic isn't perfect, but it exists. I'm sure it has a remake of 1 in a pseudo-ALttP engine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:01:13 2015 No.2304293 >>2303681 What is Zero Mission

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:09:53 2015 No.2304304
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>>2304291

Zelda Classic is absolute garbage. It has one and a half developers and a codebase that no one wants to touch with a ten-foot cattle prod. The sole community it still has is the very worst sort of hugbox (even worse than here) and the only guy who ever delivered on anything more than a glorified Zelda 1 clone quest probably won't be doing them much longer anyways.

Keep in mind I'm speaking as an ex-staffer.

>>2304264

Look in the mirror buddy. That fuckface you see? That's _you_.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:34:15 2015 No.2304343

>>2304304
To me, it feels like Zelda made in RPG Maker. I've checked out various quests over the years. The functionality is generally pretty bad, which is a shame, because I enjoy the imaginative concepts that tend to come out of creation wells like that. You may want to at least look at it, OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 14:54:40 2015 No.2304375 >>2303681 Why should anyone make a Metroid remake with the Super Metroid engine when Metroid: Zero Mission has better physics on the whole?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 15:15:08 2015 No.2304410 >>2304264 Nice comeback, /b/tard shitface

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 09:58:45 2015 No.2305795 >>2304291 what bugs me is that it lacks a simple "Zelda 1 with diagonal movement" quest

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 10:16:20 2015 No.2305813 >>2303681 Op, why are you whining nobody is making a remake for you and not doing it yourself?

Anonymous Tue Mar 24 10:36:50 2015 No.2305835
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>>2305795

The only thing worse than how Zelda Classic is coded is the community around it. The sole thing they seem to excel at is announcing big, huge, incredible-looking quests and then failing to deliver so much as a 30-minute demo. You have _no_ idea how many projects I saw over there amount to little more than a stale fart in the wind after _years_ of blustering, fanfare, screenshots, concept art (yes, FUCKING CONCEPT ART), and soundtrack previews. It's like the entire community drinks some funky-ass koolaid that cauterizes their judgement and sense of skepticism clean off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 10:43:09 2015 No.2305845 >>2305835 I've never heard of this Zelda classic you're talking about (yeah yeah slowpoke.jpg, i get it) but surely you must be exaggerating. They can't be that bad, can they?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 13:19:29 2015 No.2306083 >>2303681 >Mother 1 remake being made as an Earthbound romhack Oh. Mother 3 engine would've been nicer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 13:23:33 2015 No.2306095 >>2306083 Why not write a new engine to play it with additional graphic options like widescreen and options to improve the interface?

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:33:27 2015 No.2307439
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>>2303698
Quite big. The overworld was cut in half and restructured a bit, and the dungeon layouts have all changed to spell out SGIGA (after St.Giga, the publishers) in the same way the original second quest spells out ZELDA.
There are hacks that remake the original game's layouts, though.

More information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellaview_games_from_The_Legend_of_Zelda_series
Home of the BS Zelda restoration page: http://www.bszelda.zeldalegends.net/

>>2303704
No.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:42:34 2015 No.2307449 >>2303681 Well, Metroid 1 did get a remake in Zero Mission, but it's true that it's not the Super Metroid engine. That said, there IS a remake of Zero Mission in the Super Metroid engine, Metroid Super Zero Mission. http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/742/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:48:49 2015 No.2307459 >>2304030 What's your problem?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:50:17 2015 No.2307463 >>2304215 Actually, it is. It's adding a bunch of shit that wasn't in the original game, from items and weapons to whole plot elements.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:53:40 2015 No.2307467 >>2304013 But it's not? The maps are vastly different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:55:57 2015 No.2307468 >>2303801 Are you rusing me? I can't find anything but music.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 02:57:00 2015 No.2307469 >>2305835 Maybe they're all artists and they don't have enough left brainers to do the planning and execution of the ideas.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 03:29:32 2015 No.2307508 File: 57 KB, 648x522, Zelda Time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where's my Metroid 2 remake in Super Metroid's engine?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 04:16:58 2015 No.2307556 >>2304048 There was a SSBM world championship a few years back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 13:48:59 2015 No.2308040 >>2303681 I wish HM fans would demake 64 with FOMT graphics

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 14:11:15 2015 No.2308067 >>2307468 just go to the irc channel and ask for latest Retroid beta from ProjectXVIII.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 14:12:47 2015 No.2308071 >>2307508 under development also, afaik by the same guy who does Retroid

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 15:03:27 2015 No.2308119 >>2307556 And they rescinded it in hours after a huge outcry from all corners of the net.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 18:05:54 2015 No.2308457 >>2308040 but it would be the exact same game

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 18:50:29 2015 No.2308531 is that remake still happening? I haven't heard anything about it in a few years

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 19:06:06 2015 No.2308551
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>>2303681
>"A remake is being made!"
>"BOO HOO! The remakes / want aren't being made instead!"
>all these implications about critically faulty logic

Why indeed.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 20:48:04 2015 No.2308683

The more I actually play retro games the less I understand the remake madness.

A Link Between Worlds was pretty much the perfect way to do it, it's a totally new game using the same map layout, gameplay principles and art direction. Zero Mission was the same way, even though it's supposed to be a remake, it's essentially a new game.

So why bother remaking Zelda 1 and Metroid 2, it's not like there's a deep story to experience. If you don't want to play with the dated controls and graphics, you don't want to play the game anyway, so why the fuck not just play an actually new game?

I won't count ports and updates like the 3DS Zeldas and Chrono Trigger DS though, because they're literally the same game.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 23:25:47 2015 No.2308951

>>2305835
Ambition - talent - drive + desire for attention = "Sneak previews!!" of projects that are DOA.

1. Some group of kids say "wouldn't it be neat it we made Crono Trigger X and it was super challenging and you could be the son of Crono and Marle but he kind of looks like Magus? And it answers all the questions from the first game but introduces a new villain that's actually a corrupt Lucca??"
2. Group of kids modify the layout of a room in Guardia Castle and alter a few sprites.
3. Group of kids, drunk on their "progress," can't hold their load and blow it on their website with "check out the latest screenshots!!!"
4. Rinse and repeat once, maybe twice
5. Kids realize that they aren't capable of actually creating anything new, just changing existing assets AND/OR they lose interest
5. Project disappears as quickly as it came.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 23:53:01 2015 No.2309019 >>2303995 The entire mother series just need to be packaged up in an all-stars type collection and released on 3ds, ios/android or some sort of handheld device.

>>	adolfdisney Thu Mar 26 00:47:20 2015 No.2309136 >>2304293 I was gonna say this GBA is forbidden

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 00:59:47 2015 No.2309170 >>2308683 I want to play it for the history but I can't stand the NES palette.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 02:12:14 2015 No.2309360 >>2304017 mother 1 already had a full translated proto u fuck ass

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:24:22 2015 No.2310657 Zero Mission is basically a Metroid 1 remake in SM engine. Besides, what's the point of this OP? Remaking the games like that would change too much of how they play. It'd be like remaking F-Zero X in F-Zero GX's engine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:09:18 2015 No.2310974 >All these people who think Zero Mission is on Super Metroid's engine >for some reason What is WRONG with all of you?

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:28:49 2015 No.2311017

>>2310974
What's "wrong" is that they don't take it that literally. Many have acknowledged that it's not truly SM's engine but is functionally the equivalent.

What's wrong with you is that you take people's words too literally and then use that as an in to insult strangers online.

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