/vr/ - Retro Games

Anyone know if it's possible to emulate a LAN connection, similar to how Hamachi works, with modern technology?

>>2302597
I need to get back to phantasy star but the broadband adapter is god awful in price

>>2302610
The second line of the op is literally how to get online without a broadband adapter.

>>2302597
thanks based anon for the help.

>>2302627
Honestly, I haven't even tried it. I just thought it'd be super interesting to do, but then I realized none of those games are anything I want to play online. Most of them are available on PC and probably are easier to do and have larger communities. Seems like it should work though.

I just want to play ChuChu Rocket! with people.

with the sega dreamcast web browser, would it still be possible to browse and post on 4chan on a sega dreamcast?

>>2302687
Pretty sure you could. Hope you have the Dreamcast keyboard.

>>2302687
It wouldn't be the best way to post, but you should be able to. Just keep in mind, the DC is old technology and can't handle modern websites. Luckily, 4chan is still pretty basic.

>>2302721
the web browsers at a minimal should be able to view gifs, right? not like I'm gonna watch any of the webms or embeded youtube vids.

>>2302670
So many hours of CCR! online. So much fun. Holy fuck, did I love CCR. Needs to be rereleased.

>>2302781
Apparently it's available on iOS and Android. No idea how the port is as I don't have a smart device.

>>2302786
Yeah, after posting that, I decided to see if there was a rerelease. I might download the Android version right now. Or, more likely, look for vids of it online first. I don't want to get stuck with FFVI-tier remake quality. That would make me :-(

>>2302793
what the fuck was SE thinking when they made that remake? looked like something they threw together in game maker.

>>2302687
you should look into running a lite linux first and see if they have any browsers that would work

>>2302797
Probably something along the lines of "let's milk this for what it's worth and make money off the unsuspecting."

>>2302793
Looks as good as the original but the touch controls look kinda fucked and, as far as I can tell, it doesn't allow for hard-button operation (my Android device has hard buttons and it's GREAT for most retro gaming purposes). It also lacks online multiplayer. It does local, though.
For 99¢, though, I might get it anyway, if only to play with friends. I'm sure I can convince a few of my friends to spend a buck on it.

>>2302820
>It also lacks online multiplayer
Why do they do this?

>>2302823
My only guess would be server maintenance might be a bitch? I've otherwise no clue.

>>2302605
this is useless given that Dreamcast games dont have LAN support.

Thanks, OP. Would be cool if Alien Front Online still worked, or even CCR.

Only thing I'd really want to play is PSO, and I can do that much more easily on PC. :(

>>2302597
How fast is this connection? 28.8K?

Not /vr/

>>2302876
Oh. I thought I saw that there was LAN support but there was apparently a small amount of games with support for a link cable to connect two consoles instead. No official cable came out, but there's some unofficial ones.
Pic related, Dragoncast VS Cable.

Seemingly compatible games:
>Aero Dancing i/F
>F355 Challenge
>Virtual On Oratorio Tangram
>Sega Tetris

Virtual On woulda been cool to play online.

>>2302597
Homebrew DOOM also works, and is compatible with the bba.

>>2302962
Adding to this: for a number of games, VS link play is a hidden feature. For instance, you'll have to press X+Y at the F355 main menu to see the link option appear.

>>2302597
Apparently Planet Ring can be played online as well
https://code.google.com/p/earthcall-project/

How many people still play starlancer online? Some multiplayer space shootan on my dreamcast sounds pretty fun.

>>2302967
>VS link play is a hidden feature.
You would think by now I would be used to the bizarre shit Sega does. Guess not.

>>2302597

PSO servers have been dead since 2004 yo.

And no one plays blue burst anymore.

>>2302949

You can play on 28.8 with DC and it wasn't that bad, used to play PSO, Starlancer & Daytona USA online with dialup back in the day. The Broadband adapter is well, broadband speeds.

>>2303274
Online on Dreamcast is all indy servers now. The original ones were all shut down.

>>2303274
Looks like there's three players online here: http://sylverant.net/
Also think it's a private server. But whatever.
Also found posts from 2011 releasing software to patch PSO for servers.
Point being it's at least possible, unlike most others.

>>2303284

I know, I was there when PSO servers officially went offline ;_;

>>2303287

Though after all the hacks and people player killing. Everyone jumped over to PSOv2, I couldn't because at the time I had no CC so I just dealt with PSOv1 with like anti hack cheats in action replay.

>>2302687
I'm pretty sure I've seen a picture of someone doing just that, but it was a few years ago. I think there's a homebrew web browser you can get that's a bit more updated than the old official ones.

it would be fucking cool to play some DC shit with /vr/, especially PSO

this shit might be useful for us http://dreamcast.onlineconsoles.com/phpBB2/guides.php

>>2302616
id rather just get a fucking adapter and a lan to wifi

>>2303667
PSO with /vr/ would be awesome.

>>2303676
Why shell out $200+ to play PC games online on a Dreamcast? The adapter is only compatible with three games anymore.

>>2303680
You could always try getting something together on PC, it'd probably be much more successful.

Dreamcast isn't /vr/
Dreamcast is 6th Gen
6th Gen isn't retro.

>>2304165

Dreamcast qualifies for Retro status under a widely-known and heavily-disputed yet still completely legitimate exception.

>>2304165
Read the sticky and stop shitposting.

>>2304173
Do NOT reply to him under any circumstances. He has actually gotten Dreamcast threads deleted before. He's also notorious on Doom threads as well.

Just a reminder that reviveDC, and I believe also DCres versions of games are still online compatible. And obviously they use 3rd party servers.

Anyone know a good source of 99 minute CDR's? Does Taiyo Yuden make those?

cant you guys just emulate dreamcast games online or something? always seems like waste of money to buy old overpriced equipment

I personally use viking phone line sim for dc to pc modem

Wasn't another game rather recently brought back? Someone wrote a server for it?

>>2304603
The whole point of this thread is saying there is a way to play online with original hardware and NOT the $200+ Broadband adapter that doesn't work with but three remaining games.

>>2302597
>>2304639
Toy Racer, it was brought back online in December. it's using the original server software too and supports the Broadband Adapter and modem (but only Broadband Adapter is working for now)

>>2303667
I just bought off ebay today quake 3 and unreal tournament, and I am going to burn marvel vs capcom: clash of the superheroes and marvel vs capcom 2 either today or tomorrow. I could also get PSO if enough people do this. It would kick ass to play with /vr/ bros.

do you guys know much about fixing dreamcast problems? randomly it resets itself. I've seen either two solutions: open it up and pull some pins back or keep it on for a few hours and let the battery charge itself. what do /vr/?

>>2304595
>Just a reminder that reviveDC, and I believe also DCres versions of games are still online compatible
Source? Why only these versions? Couldn't you connect to their servers from the same game not released by them or is it something hard coded into the game?

>>2304615
OP here, actually found a bunch of other "useful" links, like various free dial-up service things, but it just didn't seem necessary. Planning on making a pastebin containing all the info here and possibly some other crap I found when the thread dies.

>>2304928
You're better off asking in the general repair thread >>2241620 or the Dreamcast general... which apparently keeps getting deleted.

>>2304989
ok thanks for the redirect anon. I'll go ask there. also, it does confuse me why the dreamcast generals keep getting deleted.

>>2304595
>>2304989
Just looked into it. Can't find anything that says those rips of games still work online. Bomberman Online from ReviveDC states explicitly it no longer works online.

>>2302949
Seems the connection is 33.6k. Not sure if this guide is the same as the in in the OP but
"A 56k modem in your PC will only connect to the Dreamcast at 33.6k/bps max. This is because the upload speed on a 56k modem is capped at 33.6k, and that is what you're basically doing: uploading information to the Dreamcast. This isn't as bad as it seems, though, because 56k modems rarely if ever connect at the full 56k over a phone line. The data is traveling nowhere near as far either, which means less data loss because of line noise. And if you're using broadband, the data will stream into the Dreamcast at a full 33.6k/s without the lag that is characteristic of dial-up connections. In case you're wondering, PSO works great in this setup; 33.6k is more than enough bandwidth to play online."
http://www.maturion.de/dreamcast/mterlouw/main_f.htm

I don't understand...do I still have to connect to a dial-up server or should I plug that ethernet cable right into my router?

This seems way easier if you have a landline phone service, preferably with unlimited long distance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPno--nhGL0

>>2306406
If you don't have a broadband adapter, you can't use an ethernet cord.
You CAN use dial up, there's free dial-up, but the guide in the OP lets you avoid that.

OP here. Started sorting through all the info I found for it.
Gonna organize it and then get some info off sites that don't need to be linked.
http://pastebin.com/99pN9We8

>>2302597
>>2303182
The StarLancer servers apparently went down the summer of last year when GameSpy shut down.
http://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/online_games.php

>>2306428
Fan servers are in the works:

http://dreamcast.onlineconsoles.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10184&sid=04d36b18d3623e7bbc40bcc4ae26cd18

I've been wanting to get a party going on /vr/ to play some PSO online. I can't find anyone who plays the Dreamcast version on Schthack, everyone plays Blueburst

>>2306406
>>2306410
the problem with the guide is that the prices of the the network router and VOIP router have gone up substantially since that article was written and it would now cost the same to just buy an ethernet card. Though I suppose you could just find different products that did the same thing.

>>2306462
The same VOIP router is still ~$20 on eBay.
As for the Netopia router... yeah, that's gotten really expensive. Looked around, and there are in fact alternatives, but so far the one I found is more expensive and less documented than that one soooo....
Looks like buying a landline and just doing >>2306410 seems like the easiest and cheapest option, although you have to pay monthly.

I'm sorry /vr/... I love my Dreamcast, and I would love to play with it online since I never got a chance to try it... but this seems a lot of work (and money) for very little rewards. Forgive me.

>>2306769
It only seems like a lot of work/money because you took the time to read OPs guide. It can be done with shit you either have laying around, can get for free, or at worst pay a few bucks for. Just google and click any random result for a better guide.

Has anyone here managed to browse /vr/ using a Dreamcast web browser?

So, which games do the people in this thread actually play?

>>2310321
I play PSO from time to time. I'd play Worms if I could.

>>2303185
link mode being hidden is only true for US titles.

warning that the 3rd party dragoncast cable won't work for VOOT.

source: me, i have the 3rd party & official cables and VOOT wont work with the 3rd party cable

>>2311145
I have 3rd party cables that work. No idea what brand it is.

>>2307362
It wouldn't work. 4chan uses too much modern tech even just for design. It would look like if you tried browsing the site in Netscape 4.