I like how the promo art for the FF5 OVA looks like early drafts of Terra and Cloud.

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Anonymous Wed Mar 18 18:39:29 2015 No.2296173 [Reply] [Original]

I like how the promo art for the FF5 OVA looks like early drafts of Terra and Cloud.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 18:41:47 2015 No.2296179 It probably was.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 20:08:00 2015 No.2296315 I've never cared for Amano's artwork. It's always seemed ugly to me. Call me a heretic, but I like Nomura better.

Anonymous Wed Mar 18 20:13:45 2015 No.2296324

>>2296315
You may not be aware of how the stories were created.

Up until Amano stopped being the character designer, the stories and their characters were made up after the designs themselves. Amano would draw the character that would later become Kefka, and they decide on who Kefka is from the design.

I'm appraising the true weight of your heresy for you. Not judging you. I used to be oblivious to all this information myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 20:27:38 2015 No.2296353 >>2296315 pleb taste

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 20:30:08 2015 No.2296364 >>2296315 You're a heretic.

Anonymous Wed Mar 18 21:42:59 2015 No.2296532
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>>2296173
Its possible, FF5 wasn't going to be a numbered Fantasy game. Instead it was going to be a stand alone Spin Off game called something like "Final Fantasy Advanced" and be a hardcore take on the series.
At the time the game was so difficult that they skipped its release in America entirely(part of the reason FF6 was originally FF3 in America).

Another thing to note: The Original Final Fantasy 7 was being made for the N64 and had characters very similar to Terra and what people assume was Locke(who is basically a slightly nuanced Bartz) before they dropped FF64 entirely in favor of FF7. Then again you can see what I assume is Shadow hanging out in the back here.

Final Fantasy 9 was also going to be a spin off game and simply be the big compilation/reference FF game, but instead they gave it a number.

Anonymous Wed Mar 18 21:55:03 2015 No.2296564

>>2296532
Actually, FFVA/FF Extreme was only going to be named that in America due to the aforementioned difficulty reasons. It's marketing, the game was developed as FFV and stayed that way.

That screenshot is taken from a simple demo showcasing the work produced by a 3D graphics group recently acquired by Square. It was never N64 related and was simply a test demo for Square's first steps in 3D polygon tech. Those characters are indeed Terra, Locke and Shadow.

FFIX was simply going to be the last hurrah of the franchise and was going to be full of references, which it actually was, but a lot of them were lost due to FF's shitty translation history.

Anonymous Wed Mar 18 21:57:15 2015 No.2296570
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Amano's artstyle also has some serious sameface but I quite like it. His artstyle clashes hard with FFV's tone though, playing the GBA version with the Amano portraits was just strange.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:01:18 2015 No.2296579 File: 155 KB, 500x609, 1424940747412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you love Amano and Nomura and can't decide which you prefer

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:35:52 2015 No.2296635 >>2296579 You posted artwork by Akihiko Yoshida

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:44:26 2015 No.2296652 >>2296532 >The Original Final Fantasy 7 was being made for the N64 False. False. So much false. That was a PC demo. There wasn't any connection to N64.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:47:14 2015 No.2296658 >>2296635 >>2296579 not the same dude, but i love this guy's shit more than amano's. Nomura kinda sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:49:34 2015 No.2296663 File: 646 KB, 1000x1200, gitrydia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2296564 >>2296652 I remember reading an article about the "mysterious" "FF64" that was cancelled, I guess they were just lying about the tech demo for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:51:58 2015 No.2296671 >>2296652 It was going to be ported to the N64 via the DD, but inevitably wasn't because the DD bombed so hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 22:56:07 2015 No.2296680 >>2296663 At the time it was just widely misinterpreted as an N64 demo, and many people still believe that's what it is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:15:15 2015 No.2296735 File: 83 KB, 405x480, ogre-battle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2296658 I love Yoshida for the fact that hes always improving as an artist. His Ogre Battle art was pure awful but his modern art is pretty amazing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:35:21 2015 No.2296793 File: 1.14 MB, 1280x720, 1421122569837.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2296735 I'm about to play some Tactics Ogre myself. pic unrelated: Delita using Beatrix's Save the Queen

Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:37:22 2015 No.2296796

>>2296315
Same here. His fugly art gets praised only because the FF series is popular.

>>2296570
>Amano's artstyle also has some serious sameface but I quite like it.

This is very common among Japanese artists. Since the face is so difficult to draw, it's easier to create characters by using the same face while varying non-facial features like hair, physique, height and superficial features like clothing, accessories, and eye color.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 18 23:58:12 2015 No.2296830 >>2296793 how is that "save the queen"? it was a big silver sword with some blue shit.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 00:54:20 2015 No.2296921
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>>2296796

I don't think he's bad I just think he's a bad choice for this series. Depending on the game he seems like he goes out of the way to differ from the sprites. It's especially bad in V

also too much dude make up. I don't really think Butz is the kind of guy to spend time putting on lipstick and mascara

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 01:16:42 2015 No.2296947 >>2296921 Except that, you know, FF6 is the most closely based on his artwork, and is widely considered to be one of the best. Amano doesn't do the sprite work. Square's team does the sprites.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 01:37:49 2015 No.2296964 >>2296830 Not that guy but take a look at this: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Save_the_Queen

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 01:40:19 2015 No.2296967 >>2296315 >>2296315 I don't blame you, everyone Amano draws look like whispy trannies

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 02:45:11 2015 No.2297019
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>>2296947

6 is pretty much the only time to two mesh at all. and Ill agree on that one. It mostly looks pretty alright.

But you honestly can't tell me this is any way alright

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 02:51:51 2015 No.2297026

>>2297019
That isn't alright, but that also isn't the original FFV. FFV doesn't have portraits.

That's shit because the sprite clearly has different colored hair than the portrait. Lazy and stupid. At least its not the mobile one so you can combine the out of place portraits with terrible graphics.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 02:56:53 2015 No.2297030

>>2297026
To elaborate on that; you are basing your opinion on shitty re-releases that fuck with the graphics.

In all the old ones, the Amano art is concept and is never shoe-horned in ever if it doesn't work in context. If it doesn't fit what worked, its changed, like how Terra's hair is green in her portrait, unlike that really lazy hackjob from FFV (GBA I assume).

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 03:01:03 2015 No.2297031
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>>2297030
>In all the old ones, the Amano art is concept and is never shoe-horned in ever if it doesn't work in context.

Except, you know, every single enemy sprite in the original games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 03:05:44 2015 No.2297038 File: 1.69 MB, 139x215, bestfaceever.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2297031

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 03:08:11 2015 No.2297039 >>2297031 How exactly does X-DEATH's sprite not work in context?

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 03:10:37 2015 No.2297040
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>>2297039
I'm not saying anything about context, I'm saying that Amano's artwork is far from just "concept". Just about every single enemy sprite from the first five or so games is directly based on his artwork, and not just concept, either, but pretty much pixel-for-pixel exactly as close as they could get it.

And sometimes they really fucked it up in the process. Dr. Lugae looks like a weird goat thing in-game.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 03:18:11 2015 No.2297047

>>2297040
That's just the way the monsters in Final Fantasy look. He also drew environments and character designs, too, you know. As I said, they used what was good and fit into the games.

FF6 went further into making even the portraits look like the concept, and it turned out very well for it. FF5 did not have portraits, so when they added them in, they look like shit, since the characters don't look anything like the artwork the portraits are taken from because the sprites weren't actually based on that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 03:20:13 2015 No.2297049 >>2297026 Does the mobile version let you turn them off? Because Ill play whichever version does that

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 04:49:59 2015 No.2297125 File: 888 KB, 1017x1477, Party_Artwork.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just love how diverse the cast looks shown here

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 08:55:49 2015 No.2297243
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>>2296315
>It's always seemed ugly to me
Are you kidding me?
>>2296921
>he's a bad choice for this series.
So, the one guy who literally created the distinctive style of the series is bad?

Without him you wouldn't have all the distinctive monsters such as bombs/baloons, slimes, Behemoth etc.
It's not even a problem of tastes, he literally is the one who came up with almost everything in terms of design, unless you think FF's distinctive style comes from VII, that is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 11:44:30 2015 No.2297407 File: 2.12 MB, 1280x806, Stained Glass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd like everyone who prefers Tetsuya "OMG I'm cumming zippers and belts" Nomera's style to leave /vr/ and never come back. You are hereby exiled to vile wastes of /v/.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 11:56:54 2015 No.2297421

>>2297407
>not wanting to be spanked with a whole bunch of belts
But I digress. I'm not a big fan of it either, but I get the feeling that the current state of FF trying hard as possible to hit the audience is more to blame.

>>2296570
I remember a patched being worked on to remove it, but it basically did it the easy "fill hex with FFFFFFFFF" way so the pictures are only blanked out and there's a bunch of empty space to the left of the messages.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 12:12:10 2015 No.2297442

Amano's character designs are shit. They always have been. That's not even what he was good for. I mean, the entirety of what you remember about the character of 1 through 6 are their sprite work and whatever they were written as.

Amano's real strength was the creature design, which basically turned the combat system in to a convoluted art book where instead of turning a page to see the next illustration, you get in to another battle. And his style is freaking fantastic for that. But it's also why he was replaced. His art doesn't translate well to 3d. You just can't do that misty, sketch like quality with weird proportions and angles in a 3d model.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 14:06:08 2015 No.2297595
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>>2296635
You really think I don't know what I posted? The image conveys a sense of pleasant indecision on the topic at hand when viewed in context with my post. The choice to use artwork by Yoshida, a third prominent final fantasy artist, was deliberate.

I don't have a lot of experience with the autistic so let me know if that cleared everything up sufficiently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 14:19:23 2015 No.2297617 File: 912 KB, 700x991, Byzantine Cataphract.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey Janny, any chance you'll resist the urge to silently fingerfuck with my posts any time soon?

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 15:34:12 2015 No.2297715

>>2297243
>So, the one guy who literally created the distinctive style of the series is bad?

yes.

also

>Hur dur you must have started with 7

and don't give me that bull shit because all these monsters and everything where lifted wholesale from the DnD monster manual

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 16:38:19 2015 No.2297774 >>2297049 What the portraits? Just download the fan translated SNES original for free. There shouldn't even be confusion here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 16:46:10 2015 No.2297783 >>2297715 Don't give me that crap. I own many AD&D monster manuals (and compendiums). Most of the most memorable monsters are all original.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 17:00:44 2015 No.2297808

as a child i didnt like amano. freakish and weird. nomura won by default

now i feel nomura is pleb tier trash that anyone can do, cuz they had to simplify the designs for 3d translation. amano has his issues (sameface, no expression depth, one dimensiinal artist), but he definitely gave a meaningful direction to the franchise and basically a dimension of "art" to the games.

terra is the penultimate amano character.

Anonymous Thu Mar 19 17:03:45 2015 No.2297813

>>2297808
FF7 has relatively subdued and iconic character designs. I have trouble believing that Nomura designed it alone, given, well, the entirety of the rest of his portfolio. Every single other project he's worked on is a declaration of war against good taste.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 19:31:50 2015 No.2298046 >>2297039 >X- Die

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 20:18:06 2015 No.2298090 >>2297808 >stating sameface as negative trait You should put that in the beginning of your post as a warning that no one should waste their time with your opinion on art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 19 21:43:52 2015 No.2298195 >>2298090 Why wouldn't it be a bad thing?

Anonymous Fri Mar 20 04:49:58 2015 No.2298575

>>2297715
>all these monsters and everything where lifted wholesale from the DnD monster manual

Sure anon...oh wait, this isn't a DQ thread.
>>2297808
>one dimensiinal artist
Are you kidding me?
He's the guy who basically did most of the classic Tatsunoko heroes, Front Mission, FF, Angel's Egg, Vampire Hunter D designs, tons of artworks on other stuff including DC heroes and Star Wars, how's that being one dimensional?

Seriously, do any of you know who you're talking about or are you here to just write what comes into your brain based on a few boxarts?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:00:01 2015 No.2298579 File: 52 KB, 242x750, tumblr_myz2muJFaE1qj073eo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2297813 that's nothing you should see Parasite Eve >jeans >t-shirt >jacket it's shit a person wears.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:11:05 2015 No.2298583 File: 337 KB, 1542x504, sameface.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2298195 For the best explanation, try to impress someone knowledgeable in the field, by saying that like a better half of world cultures artwork has 'sameface issues'.

Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:22:33 2015 No.2298592
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I only got into the Final Fantasy series about five years ago. The second I saw Amano's designs I was overwhelmed by their richness and pageantry. It's not nostalgia glasses- he really is amazing as an artist.

By contrast I have never felt...Well, much of _anything_, really...about Nomura's style. Perhaps a species of vague contempt, but that's it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:30:43 2015 No.2298594

>>2298592

I don't see what Nomura being terrible has to do with Amano's faults.

This is gonna blow you're mind but perhaps FF in general just doesn't have the best art ever.

You either got a pastel crossdressing willowy faggot or a faggot with a jock strap on his face and more belts than a clothing store

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:35:18 2015 No.2298598 File: 644 KB, 800x1000, The Courtier.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2298594 >All of my men must be big muscly hunks of man meat. I will not play with them otherwise. Something you want to tell us there, Anon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:38:55 2015 No.2298602 >>2298598 Nice ad hominem. Maybe tomorrow you can come up with a real argument.

Anonymous Fri Mar 20 05:44:01 2015 No.2298604

>>2298592
Nomura was good when he worked on PE, he's pretty good when it comes to normal attires, he also had a nice style overall, now it's really mostly the same shit with belts placed in different places, he shines at making good, real everyday life clothes but for the love of god don't let him do more than that, he makes decent power armors and /m/ stuff though.

>>2298594
>FF in general just doesn't have the best art ever.
This makes no sense at all, art is mainly about the viewer's taste and knowledge, there's people who like jock straps and belts and there's people who like crossdressing faggots.
There's a good reason why Amano does the same kind of heroes and if you're not a complete dumbass it's also very easy to infer.

Tatsuya Yoshikawa is a great character designer but many people don't like his anorexic female characters and his yaoi hands, Tomomi Kobayashi is often accused of doing the same stuff that Amano does, they're are all great designers but they cater to a different public and have radically different styles.

I like my old style weeb David Bowies more than generic Marvel/DC heroes and that's pretty much it, for me Amano will always be a much better artist than Toriyama for a large number of reason you might not agree with.
And it's fine like this, but please don't make dumb posts like that, there's no absolute parameter of judging art.

Anonymous Sat Mar 21 21:14:35 2015 No.2301330

>>2298575
>Seriously, do any of you know who you're talking about or are you here to just write what comes into your brain based on a few boxarts?
FF threads attract a lot of retards, most of these fucks probably don't even know the head artists for each game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 21 21:26:46 2015 No.2301346 >>2298579 I really liked his PE1+2 artwork.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 00:02:58 2015 No.2301560 >>2296921 I think it's really true with FF6 as well. None of the characters in the art look anything like the sprites. Amano's magitech armor is some gargantuan chocobo looking thing with no arms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 00:11:56 2015 No.2301581 >>2297243 nomura was in charge of the monster designs from ff4 onwards hard to believe i know

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 00:15:33 2015 No.2301585 >>2301581 He didn't design them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 00:27:03 2015 No.2301606 >>2301585 i recall seeing his name on the credits under monster designer

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 00:29:03 2015 No.2301615 >>2301606 Someone had to turn the artwork into sprites. He was in charge of that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 00:49:50 2015 No.2301656 File: 177 KB, 1485x800, 6b-demon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2301585 You may care to get more specific about what he didn't design.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 01:10:28 2015 No.2301689 So Amano fucking sucks. But don't worry, Nomura is also pretty shit.

Anonymous Sun Mar 22 03:00:46 2015 No.2301836
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>>2301689
Y'know the world's a pretty complicated place.

Nomura is the man who put belts on top of belts on top of pockets.

But he's also the one that drew this illustration in its entirety.

So I'm kinda hesitant to call anyone shit for all time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 03:05:51 2015 No.2301847 >>2301836 He can draw fine he just needs to take a lesson in fashion or something

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 03:08:41 2015 No.2301851 File: 141 KB, 714x1000, 6a-shadow_6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Interceptor used to be some kind of Dr.Seuss nightmare. Huh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 04:31:42 2015 No.2301926 >>2301851 Shadow doesn't exactly scream stealth assassin there either

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 07:10:55 2015 No.2302015 File: 121 KB, 632x1000, 6a-shadow_7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2301926 I dunno what you're talking about. He seems most tactical.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 13:03:15 2015 No.2302353 >>2296532 That was just a graphical demo, the game was never even planned.

Anonymous Sun Mar 22 13:07:29 2015 No.2302361
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>>2301836

...You're fucking kidding me. HE drew that?!

Then what the hell happened in the intervening years, I wonder? His PSX art isn't that bad, but from PS2 onward it just screams "jaded hack".

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 13:11:13 2015 No.2302367 >>2302361 He either got the rockstar syndrome and thought he was a genius who could do nothing wrong, or he just tried making the most ridiculous outlandish designs because the industry gravitated towards over-designed concepts being "cool".

>>	Razz Sun Mar 22 13:20:42 2015 No.2302382 >>2302367 >industry-defined cool Bingo. You get an art commission based around what the commissioner wants, not what the artist wants. Japan demands belts, Nomura draws belts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 22 16:00:12 2015 No.2302624 >>2301615 No that was someone else, he designed them. Concept art is all over the place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 03:12:27 2015 No.2303651 >>2296315 >Warhammer9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000reference.png

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 03:52:15 2015 No.2303682 >>2296532 >>2296564 You're both wrong about IX. I was originally going to be unnumbered but the only reason they gave it one was because they wanted their first next gen game to have a big shiny X on the cover

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 04:08:50 2015 No.2303702 >>2298575 >DC heroes and Star Wars Just in art books. He's not officially involved in any western media. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshitaka_Amano

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:14:44 2015 No.2303794

>>2301851
What the fuck, i tought Interceptor was some kind of cape or something, until i saw >>2302015
i realized there was a dog in that picture

Returning to the topic, I like Amano's artwork because it gives that fantasy feel, they look like something that actually came out of another world/universe.
Instead Nomura's artwork looks flat and just too generic, he makes the concept art look like generic shonen mangas and while its not a bad thing i prefer Amano's style
Then we have Akihiko Yoshida's artwork that is really good and gives me that feeling of a lighthearted adventure so i really like that too.

The problem is that i know Nomura can draw amazing things that are on par and even better than the things Amano did, but he just chooses( or maybe square makes him) do these uninspired desings.
I have to say i would have liked if the main games used yoshida's arwork, FFXII looks beautifull and his armor desing is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:30:51 2015 No.2303810 >>2301851 >>2302015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjE5A4UAJI

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:36:41 2015 No.2303816

>>2303794
>The problem is that i know Nomura can draw amazing things that are on par and even better than the things Amano did
That's a bit too much, Nomura has some nice skills and ideas but his original stuff is not really that good from a design point of view, not to mention that most of his designs for the early FF titles, and even PS1 FF designs are really heavily inspired by Amano, his original touches are really not that great imho.
As much as Amano uses weird chromatic schemes, beads, horns and patterns Nomura loves putting tattoos, scars or spiky pieces of metals that would look better on buildings rather than people, belts and zippers came late in his career so I won't even talk about those, yet the stuff I like form his work still remains the one that remains Amano-ish, Ultimecia or Adel are probably the best example.

I remember when Dissidia first came out and people used to make jokes about The Emperor being Ulty's Oniichan due to their horns and similar patterns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:48:53 2015 No.2303826 File: 62 KB, 776x671, 6b-skeletal_horror.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2302361 He drew pretty much every monster and summon in the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 06:49:53 2015 No.2303828 File: 45 KB, 687x975, 6b-sabin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2302361 >>2303826 As well as some other concept art WHICH ONLY RECENTLY TURNED UP. Like Sabin and Vargas here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 07:22:18 2015 No.2303853 File: 143 KB, 669x1000, Sabin_II.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2303828 >Sabin without beard Disgusting

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 07:45:24 2015 No.2303868 >>2303828 >Am I kawaii enough for the throne, edgar-chan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 08:41:13 2015 No.2303905 File: 530 KB, 735x1000, Amano_Cloud(-)_&_Aerith.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to do an Amano >Lanky girls >Arabic clothing >Blondes and white skin >Same face for everyone

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 17:14:41 2015 No.2304592 File: 1.94 MB, 1920x1200, 1868995.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Seeing this alone, I would think Nomura is a good character artist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 17:16:20 2015 No.2304596 >>2297595 Yoshida is definitely the best FF artist by a longshot.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 17:29:58 2015 No.2304627

>>2304592

I can't agree. To me those character designs are merely "above average". I'd say about a 6 or 7 on a 10-point scale. Amano's by contrast I'd rate at 8 or 9 routinely.

I'm still amazed at >>2301836 , though. That is some top-tier shit, and kinda resembles the summons (or whatever the fuck they were calling them that game) for Final Fantasy 12 in terms of abstracting organic forms.

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 17:33:48 2015 No.2304635

Is bashing Amano the new cool contrarian meme around here? He might have some sameface and samehair going on in his art, but it's truly sublime and unique. How one can say they genuinely think Nomuro's art or other generic anime shit is better than Amano in general, I have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 17:34:05 2015 No.2304637 >>2304627 >To me those character designs are merely "above average". I'd say about a 6 or 7 on a 10-point scale. Amano's by contrast I'd rate at 8 or 9 routinely. Really? Cid alone is a better design than any of the Amano character designs I've seen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 17:34:44 2015 No.2304642 >>2302015 dat ass

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 23 19:16:16 2015 No.2304793 >>2304635 Why are you asking that?

Anonymous Mon Mar 23 22:03:40 2015 No.2305107

>>2304592
You are now aware that Tifa and Aeris have the same face, Cloud is nearly identical (eyes and mouth are flipped upside down) and Sephiroth is nearly identical to Cloud (eyes compressed a little).

FFVII and FFVIII have the worst character designs. Serious sameface.

Anonymous Tue Mar 24 00:37:51 2015 No.2305367
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The thing about Amano is that his style has much more of a 'fine art' quality to it - I mean his work wouldn't look that weird hung next to a Klimt or Dali painting. Shit is classy af

Nomura's on the other hand looks like something straight out of Shounen Jump. I guess it arguably works better for a game series like Final Fantasy but I dunno, I miss the old aesthetic - Amano's stuff is just ballsier and doesn't seem like it's trying to please everyone.

Anonymous Tue Mar 24 03:25:25 2015 No.2305505

>>2305367

well any issues of quality aside, I just can't picture Amano's drawings fighting and successfully besting hordes of monsters of mythical beasts and warriors.

He's wispy even for japan and in a game where 90 percent of the time in play is spent swinging swords around it just doesn't jell. Even Vampire Hunter D spends more time posing and looking forlorn in drawings

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 04:42:51 2015 No.2305558 File: 78 KB, 552x480, 05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2305505 Sounds more like a problem with your imagination

Anonymous Tue Mar 24 04:54:27 2015 No.2305565
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>>2305505
>>2305505
>I just can't picture Amano's drawings fighting and successfully besting hordes of monsters of mythical beasts and warriors.
Maybe you should look at its drawings instead of just imagining things.
>Even Vampire Hunter D spends more time posing and looking forlorn in drawings
How is that bad? He looks fabulous as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 05:11:34 2015 No.2305573 File: 1.06 MB, 1988x2556, The_Cloudsea_Djinn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2305505

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 07:04:28 2015 No.2305646 >>2305558 >>2305565 >>2305573 I like the styles of these. His style gives the impression of an old tapestry rather than a cartoon.

Anonymous Tue Mar 24 07:56:43 2015 No.2305680
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>>2305646
I also like his works for Gatchaman and Amon Saga a lot, there's little stuff I don't like about Amano.

If you like his style Léon Bakst had a very similar technique, I think Amano predates a lot from him, especially regarding chromatic choices and patterns.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 09:49:27 2015 No.2305789 >>2296532 That crap about FF7 being on N64 is all wrong. They were developing an N64 game, but what was shown was simply a tech demo. The real FF7 started out as a FF6 style 2D game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 24 10:42:30 2015 No.2305841 >>2297040 That's kind of the point though. Even in FF1, Amano's enemy art immediately stuck out among other games which used more cartoony depictions. It's something they tried to capitalize on to help provide a nuance.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 04:55:31 2015 No.2307592

>>2296532
>At the time the game was so difficult that they skipped its release in America entirely
Oh, that's a load of toss. FF5 is just as easy as any other 90's Final Fantasy. That is to say: baby difficulty. I doubt the reason that FF5 never made it to Burger Land was anything beyond "RPGs don't sell well enough to be worth the effort to localise, let's give up."

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 04:34:23 2015 No.2309552 >>2297125 I love how FF cast was always so different (except with FF VIII where all of them have the same body). Now I look at abercrombie and fitch XV and....jesus fuck

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