Super Mario RPG - Legend of the Seven Stars

[Anonymous No.2275462]

Can we please talk about this fucking game?

Replaying it for the first time in literally 17 years and enjoying it a lot.

What was good about it? What was bad? Where do the subsequent off-shot Mario RPG games rank, for better or for worse?

[Anonymous No.2275467]

Before one plays this game, always to go gamefaqs and print up a hidden chest guide, because there's a couple that you have one shot to get and that's it. Did you get the one in Mushroom Kingdom Castle, OP? If you missed and you care about it, you might as well restart your game.

[Anonymous No.2275470]

>>2275467

Wait, what happens if I get all the hidden chests?

I knew full well about the one-time hidden chest right at the start of Mushroom Kingdom and ignored the opportunity.

[Anonymous No.2275493]

>>2275470
I just checked, Apparently nothing except the compliments from the chest guy in mostro town. Weird, I always assumed you'd get... something.

[Anonymous No.2275501]

>>2275462
Such a unique game. There truly is no other game with the feeling this game has.

[Anonymous No.2275550]

similar to chains in Vagrant Story, it's impossible to do 100 super jumps by pure timing or sound alone. The timing of Mario's landing varies so that using the sound or rhythm as a guide is useless.

I've never done it without abusing save states.


The Super Jacket is insanely good too.

[Anonymous No.2275557]

>>2275550
It's possible though. SMRPG runners use high-count Super Jumps as an easy way to do high damage without having to level up.

[Anonymous No.2275558]

>>2275557
still bullshit

[Anonymous No.2275567]

Anyone love that scene when Mario almost took a swing at that kid in Rose Town for gassing Geno over Mario and Mallow having to stop him?

I didn't catch that when I was a kid. But playing recently I was like "Oh shit, Mario, what the fuck?"

[Anonymous No.2275578]

>>2275550
It's highly difficult, but not impossible.
Keep head banging and you'll eventually get to that 100 mark.

[Anonymous No.2275604]

>>2275462
>What was good about it?

Probably the best turn-based JRPG battle system ever. GREAT characters. Actually funny (only JRPG to ever make me literally lol). Side quests that are actually enjoyable to do. Perfect length. Cool setting.

>What was bad?

No Luigi. Isometric controls are BULLSHIT.

>Where do the subsequent off-shot Mario RPG games rank, for better or for worse?

None of the others ever felt right. Mario RPG is one of those things that ever really only been done right ONCE, but that one time was near perfect.

Overall one of the best JRPGs of all time.

[Anonymous No.2275642]

>>2275604
I loved the isometric stuff

some of it was literally Landstalker tier secrets

[Anonymous No.2275702]

>>2275578
>>2275557
>>2275550
Its hard because the timing changes like three times I think. Its on beat with sound and animation for the first like 10-20 or so but past that you need to do it before he lands which is awkward as hell.

[Anonymous No.2275718]

This is the game that is pretty much default for my mind in terms of music and gameplay.

I mean, I guess I used to play it when I was a wee lad, I don't remember that part. But I do remember discovering it as a teen and loving the fuck out of it.

[Anonymous No.2275732]

>>2275604
>Probably the best turn-based JRPG battle system ever.
What standard are you judging the battle system by? It doesn't seem like anything special to me and it also seems like they weren't really focusing on it

[Anonymous No.2275737]

>>2275732
It's definitely not better than say, Saga Frontier 2 or Breath of Fire 4

[Anonymous No.2275740]

>>2275550
It's just harder with emulation. SNES hardware has much easier timing.

[Anonymous No.2276721]

Good- easy to pick up, unique enough classes with simple level/equipment system, fun and lighthearted while still engaging, side quests were not too fetchy

Bad- suffers the standard JRPG easy if you grind a little bit, jump timing on emulators

[Anonymous No.2277293]

>>2275462
>It had decent writing
>First characterization of Bowser being silly
>TIMED HITS
>Generally SNES-era square charm including secrets and mini-games
>Great OST

>Babbies first RPG in terms of difficulty overall and options in terms of strategy
>Relatively short with few to no meaningful sidequests
>Isometric view + platforming isn't really ever a good idea

[Anonymous No.2277309]

>>2275737
you are mah nigga with liking SF2. no one talks about that game.

[Anonymous No.2277314]

>>2275462
One thing in particular I thought was neat that I haven't seen another RPG do (though I'm admittedly working with limited genre experience) was getting semirandom buffs mid-battle from defeating enemies. Make the math behind it more transparent and work modifiers in and that's the sort of thing you could base an entire system around.

[Anonymous No.2277378]

Fucking loved it. Fucking LOVED it. Everything. Mario looks a little strange but I loved the bulbous art direction of this game.

[Anonymous No.2277427]

>>2277378
Yeah, I usually am not a huge fan of pre-rendered graphics, but it worked in Mario RPG for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2277805]

>>2275462
>What was good about it?

The entire premise of a Square developed Mario game, it's a brilliant crossover
The goofy characters and character design
The writing
The music
The simple but addictive battle system
Bowser fighting on Mario's side, alongside Peach no less
Bowser getting characterization for the first time, and the fact that they nailed it
Art style
Everything

>Where do the subsequent off-shot Mario RPG games rank, for better or for worse?
The Paper Mario games are the only ones I've played. I love those games too but they don't give me the feeling that SMRPG does.

I wish there was a proper sequel to it. Playing the isometric levels in Super Mario 3D Land really makes me want a sequel on 3DS, or even a 3D Classics port. Those levels in 3D would be amazing.

But I know that a modern sequel would probably not be able to capture the same magic.

That fucking soundtrack. Every song is perfect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgSwxY5cW_o

[Anonymous No.2277842]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxAKSyMPNZk

[Anonymous No.2277850]

>>2277842
Best final battle music ever.

[Anonymous No.2277854]

>>2277850
Forgot my link. I suck cocks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq7TogDAFtE

[Anonymous No.2277879]

>>2275550
>it's impossible to do 100 super jumps by pure timing or sound alone
Wrong sir.

Wrong.

I have done it, and I have done it legit.

It is done by sound and extremely good reflexes. It's not wise to shut your eyes, but it's not good to use them either.

By the time I'd reached the end, they were mostly crossed, and both sides of my vision were this dark blur.

I did it on Boomer. It one-shotted him and I had to beat Exor before I could confirm my achievement.

There is no stress like 100 super jump stress.

[Anonymous No.2277904]

>>2277879
Get a load of this badass herpl0rd...

[Anonymous No.2277907]

>>2277904
I don't have the threshold to imagine how cute you must fancy yourself.

But all I can offer is the truth.

100 super jumps was like breaking an ancient mossed-over lock.

[Anonymous No.2277910]

>>2277907
>100 super jumps was like breaking an ancient mossed-over lock.

You really are the turbo derp

[Anonymous No.2277945]

>>2277910
Are you having fun? We're talking about video games. Feel free to join at any time.

[Anonymous No.2277951]

>>2277910
...no one talks like that on here anymore man

[Anonymous No.2278035]

>>2277910
>derp
What year is this

[Anonymous No.2278189]

The rest are all great but, in my opinion, at their best only come close to the original.

[Anonymous No.2278229]

>>2275493
I assume the idea behind it was to emulate the same feeling as in the original games. You never really got any rewards outside of what what's in the hidden blocks playing SMB after all.

[Anonymous No.2279278]

I always thought this game was odd in that it's full of hidden things and bonus equipment, but the game is so easy there is little reason to actually collect that stuff.

[Anonymous No.2279334]

Easily one of my favorite games.

>What was good about it?

Mostly childhood. Music, Bowser, Geno, Fighting with Peach, Change of pace from other Mario games.

>What was bad?

Looking back on it, it is really a rather bland game. But I still rank it my favorite SNES game, because I've played it into the ground. You can grind way too easy as well.

It would be great to see a full-fledged sequel, I guess Paper Mario was supposed to be (one of my favorite N64 games).

[Anonymous No.2279346]

>>2275462

Paper Mario is the best Mario RPG if you don't mind the lack of challenge. Best presentation, writing, pacing, everything. It was lean but not barebones, so it never hit a lull.

Going into non-retro territory, Superstar Saga is good and funny as well, the other Mario & Luigi titles are garbage.

Thousand-Year Door is good but too bloated with unnecessary fluff and side-stuff like a typical JRPG.

[Anonymous No.2279445]

>>2279346
I agree with this. Paper Mario 1 was a really well designed game. Thousand Year door placed too much emphasis on storytelling over gameplay. Most of the areas in the game are literal hallways that you have to go across 3 or 4 times to listen to funny dialogue. Glitz Pit was fun but the whole game shouldn't be like that.

Superstar Saga is also amazing, I don't know why none of the other 3 sequels were able to capture that.

[Anonymous No.2279674]

>dat Valentina
>dat bouncing rack
>dem legs

[Anonymous No.2279704]

>>2279445

TTYD was absolutely horrible with padding, I can't stand the fanboys going gaga over it.

Paper Mario 1 has its share of padding and annoying part as well, with everything after Gusty Gulch being absolute trash.

[Anonymous No.2279720]

>>2275462
I like how Super Mario RPG paved the way for Paper Mario.

[Anonymous No.2280731]

>>2279704
>everything after Gusty Gulch being absolute trash
bad opinion

[Anonymous No.2280759]

I think the best part is just that the pacing is lightning fast. There is virtually no back tracking (aside from what, 1 bit in the main story). It hits all the right notes in JRPG, and it adds some fun platforming most of which is easy or very optional. The combat is easy and fun, and there isn't huge blocks of exposition like later Square RPG's.

Over all I think its a 9. Definitely a cut above the rest.

[Anonymous No.2280773]

>>2275462

hopefully there is an intact English Beta of this, that still has some things from the original
Japanese release, such as the Bowser middle finger like gesture.

[Anonymous No.2280790]

>>2280773
such a minor thing
Oh wait I know, someone should totally waste time retranslating this game just because of stupid shit like that.

[Anonymous No.2280817]

>>2280790
>such as
Is English not your first language?

Also why are you on the video game hobby board if you find it so hard to comprehend that people are interested in such things?

[Anonymous No.2281081]

>>2275462

Ah, when...but for that brief moment, Square and Nintendo made their last, and probably most charming effort...in America at least.

[Anonymous No.2281083]

>>2275567
I enjoyed the fact that Mario never talks but uses his motions to convey his message to everyone.

>>2275604
It was the game that got me into RPG's and the Super Nintendo in general. I got it when I was either 6 or 7 and was able to beat it by the time I was 9 and then did a bunch of replays but never found that first hidden chest. I spent hours with my friend jumping around in that one room in the castle to find the last one. Fuck that.

Paper Mario 1 is a great successor but I really wish they mentioned stuff from the first game or just made it it's own series completely instead of teasing us.

>>2279674
>My mom sits down and watches me while fighting her
>....what game is this?
>uhhhhh mario