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How are the pilotwing games?
I'm thinking about picking up the snes one via club nintendo and now I'm interested the whole series.

>> No.2271138

>>2271134
They're all great, the /vr/ ones especially. SNES Pilotwings has less sandbox appeal than 64, but it's more challenging on the whole.

>> No.2271145

>>2271134
>>2271138
The N64 controls like shit bro.

>> No.2271339

>>2271145

get good.

I got 100% gold medals in all missions on PW64, feels good.

>> No.2271383

>>2271339
>feels good
What year is this

>> No.2271408

>>2271134
Pretty good. Yes, the SNES is more solid with challenges. N64 is more sandbox style.

WiiSports Resort airplane game is a spiritual sequel to PilotWings, and it was later turned into PilotWings Resort for 3DS. Not as good as the first two, or as charming, but its very calming game.

>> No.2271727

>>2271145
now why is that?

>> No.2272013
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>> No.2272080

>>2272013
no wonder she's heavy class...

>> No.2272094

pilotwings 64 is dank.

i used to use the gyrocopter as a car and cruise the USA, or take epic photos as birdman

>> No.2272191

>>2271134
Exploring the various islands in 64 was magical as a kid, and it's still a fun game. It has some secrets, great music, and improving your score offers replay value. I never played much of the SNES title, but the sandbox aspects of the 64 game make it one of the system's masterpieces in my opinion.

>> No.2272318

I hope Michael Keaton's played the Birdman mode. Being able to land in nearly any place on a map is rewarding in and of itself because coming to a stop with Birdman gear takes patience. A new PW featuring more options for free flight alongside the main game would be ideal. For that matter, I might still have that note-sheet of ideas for a new game I wrote years ago.

>> No.2272327

>>2272013

Why is there so little rule 34 of her? Her udders and thighs are gigantic.

>> No.2272332

>>2272327
Best rule 34 of Pilotwings belongs to Ibis; I'm annoyed there's nothing for the SNES game's instructors.

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>>2272332
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1551930#search=user_id%3D66181

there's this

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>>2272332
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1551930

there's this for Shirley

>> No.2272407

>>2272398
And just a day ago!

Back on topic: Arino's playthrough of the SFC original is great stuff, got me into GCXX for a time.

>> No.2272684

>>2272327
her name is hooters in the jap version lmao

>> No.2272714

>>2271408
I'd say Resort''s got the best mix of missions yet, and that Gold-tier missions are surprisingly creative and use the island setting better than others. But limited free-flight mode is balls.

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>> No.2274903

Obligatory tune now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFRqhktLckg

>> No.2275030

>>2271134
They're OK. Not must haves. Liked the original more than 64 because I thought the controls were harder to deal with more some reason on the sequel.

>> No.2275039

N64 is a dark horse gem for that console, i thought the snes kinda suck but I never really gave it a good chance.

>> No.2275786

Playing the original when I was a kid probably helped to give me my love for the sky.

>> No.2275802

>>2274903
This is the definition of elevator music

>> No.2276727

>>2275802
If only all elevator music were this good then.

The AGDQ '15 3-way race was pretty fun to my surprise, calm like the game and informative.

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>posting ibis and robin
>not posting goose

>> No.2276738

>>2274903
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uchvSCb46qQ

>> No.2276793

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XxCC8wChtw

>> No.2276859

From halc's chip-y remix album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbb5AkmveUc

>> No.2277545

>>2274903
>whole video of staring at ibis's crotch
th-thanks /vr/

>> No.2278528

>>2277545
You're welcome.

Height glitching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zREB_I6ImbI
Barnstorming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1rqcyo0LS4

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>> No.2278554

>>2272684
Hooter, Singular.

Her name is フータ. Hooters is rendered as フーターズ.

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>> No.2278584

>>2278554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9H4y9ZUiu4

>> No.2278590

Maximum was a damn cool mag for its era, shame it had to end so quickly (maybe due to their Namco/Tekken 2 patronage running out, lol).

>> No.2279512

looking at these, I kind of wish piltowings 64 was a gamecube game, it probably would have been much better performance and graphically.

it's a gorgeous game for a n64 launch title, though. holy shit.

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>>2279512
To me, it wouldn't have had the same impact had it been that way. The N64 was a magical system that made me see gaming in an entirely new way, and this was my favorite game to show it off. Suddenly I was free to go explore entire islands while before I was limited to crude mode 7. The leap from the previous generation felt so massive, suddenly it felt like I was actually there flying around. I think I spent days on end just flying around as birdman imagining what every little area would be like in person and trying to land in tricky spots to take cool photos. Pilotwings 64 will always be a very special game for me because of these experiences. I treasure this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqAbNqhZuk

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hi /vr/

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glitch exclusive to japanese version.

>> No.2279550

>>2279546
I had an Initial D track playing in my head when I was watchin that. That was pretty sick.

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>>2279546
....HOW?!

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>>2279527

Well, this is true. Back in 1996 when the N64 was released, there were few games that actually felt like SM64 and Pilotwings (both launch titles), I also had a PC back then, and I had played "impressive" games like Flying Carpet, Alone in the Dark, various flight simulators and so on, but N64 set up a new standard as far as actual gameplay in 3D goes.
Many shit on the N64 controller and to an extent they're right, the stick wears off after years of use, but it really wouldn't have been the same with a dualshock analogue or with a gamecube/wii nunchuk stick. The precision and sensitiveness is not comparable to the N64's 3d stick.

As a kid I bought PW64 because it was the only game available at launch other than SM64, otherwise I don't think I would have been interested.
However, I remember enjoying it, the game's visuals and music were soothing and really felt "next gen" back then, nothing like those crude games on 3DO and PS1 (also had these). I enjoyed the game more as an adult though, as I got to actually get good at it and clear all missions including the extra ones (I would have loved to unlock those as a kid, damnit).
However, I remember just fucking around back then. Flying with the gyrocopter around the mini states or the resort island while firing missiles at everything (including the twin towers and the poor whale), that was just pure fun.

Another early N64 title I think was impressive, and still is a great game to pick up and play today is Wave Race 64. That water was unbelievable back then, and the gameplay, holy shit. Didn't like the Gamecube sequel so much (it wasn't done by EAD, but by an american or canadian dev)

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This level utilizes the secret warp on the little states map to take you from the west coast to the east coast. Not intended to be used with jumble hopper, but can be handy if you know how to get in the building. Normally takes several mins to get to the goal.

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Character pros and cons page in the manual.

An additional thing this does not mention is that Goose/Ibis have the smallest turning radius for gyrocopter. Lark/Kiwi make the best use of thermal currents in the hang glider by being able to gain and maintain elevation the best. Also, Hawk/Robin's hang glider speed is preserved while turning much better than the others.

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This is the only texture difference I am aware of between japanese and english versions. Besides that, the differences between them is only text and the ability to perform the exclusive glitch posted earlier.

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>>2279546

>> No.2279593

>>2279583


I see a sort of cross on the japanese one. It got censored, damnit NOA.

>> No.2279594

>>2279548
what causes that glitch, anyone know?

>> No.2279608

>>2279594
I have no clue. I have searched memory addresses in emulator searching for how it happens but I didn't find anything.

As far as I know the only conditions you need to do it is to run out of fuel while in mid air, fall to your death or hit something to die, and then have your feet touch the ground while you are in the initial death cutscene. If you fly too high in the air after dying and your feet never touch the ground before the game automatically shifts to the second death cutscene (with you upside down in the ground or something), the glitch wont happen.

Also, this only ever happens on the two levels that you push balls into a goal.

>> No.2279620

>>2279583
that's the dumbest censoring ever

>> No.2279623

>>2279608
that's pretty goddamn weird.

maybe somebody could get in touch with whoever did the NA port and ask them what the fuck they fixed.

>> No.2279629

they're a great cure for insomnia

>> No.2279631

>>2279623

PW64 is actually developed by a team of americans (they also did Beetle Adventure Racing and a few other games, they mostly worked on simulation games for PC I believe) in cooperation with Nintendo (I believe the music was done by a japanese guy from Nintendo, and shiggy is the producer).

PW on the SNES is 100% japanese though.

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>>2279631
Dan Hess was the composer, another American.

>> No.2279639

>>2279623
I probably could get a hold of someone if I really wanted to... I talked with Dan Hess the composer a bit (based and humble as fuck dude btw). Maybe he still has some contacts.

Seriously though, look for a bunch of pilotwings 64 remixes and covers and you will see a comment from Dan Hess saying how cool it is.

Examples (sick vids also):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ZL5yalzo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_XD8MeGXc8

Here's a video he uploaded himself, its a prototype rocket belt theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAsQZy_Krbs

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>>2279636

True, my bad.

Actually, the director of the game is japanese, the same guy from Super Punch-Out.
And Paradigm (the american devs) didn't really made any videogame before PW64, From wiki:

>Founded as a 3D computer graphics company in 1990, Paradigm primarily worked on realistic flight simulation technology for major space and aviation clients. The company got its start in game development when it was contacted by Nintendo in 1994 to aid in the creation of one of the Nintendo 64's launch titles, Pilotwings 64.

>> No.2279647

>>2279639
Also, apparently there was a victory fanfare planned for a potential Birdman objective made and put into the game, but never used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5T9tcE8qvU

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>>2279645
>Paradigm's general manager Dave Gatchel went on to serve the same position at THQ's studio in Montreal.[34] The remaining staff relocated to other companies, such as Gearbox Software.

ouch

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUyjTsWbcI0

>> No.2279663

>>2279647
>>2279639

Those are really nice, especially loved the demo.

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>yfw when you pop out of the clouds with the peak of that mountain staring you down

This was really cool back in the day

>> No.2279675

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5jkVLGkj4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0L7RfvvqUw

>> No.2279680

>>2279675
shit has come a long way since my marathon run

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>>2279631
Beetle Adventure Racing was some fun shit.
One of my favorite racers on the n64.

>>2279680
I like that marathon run for the ending. setting a WR in the middle of a GDQ, then Gravitron receiving the japanese cart.
Warms a spot in my heart.

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Did you get a perfect file /vr/?

>> No.2279740

>>2279686

I have gold on all of them, but I still need a perfect 100pts badge in one of the canonball missions.

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>> No.2280558

>>2279647
Leaves one to wonder.

Hess finding out about the praise we've heaped for the soundtrack all these years was a great moment.

>> No.2280674

>>2279583
looks like a face

>> No.2280687

>>2280558
how did he react?

>> No.2280892

so op here again.

Would my coins be well spent on SNES Pilotwings or F-zero Maximum Velocity?

>> No.2281065

>>2279686
It took me my entire childhood, but yes.

>> No.2281245

>>2280892
nvm.
I went with pilotwings. Since I've already played the f-zero series, but I've never played a pilotwings.

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>> No.2284105

>>2280687
Guy was commenting on every other video about how glad he is that everyone seems to love 64's music after so many years.

>> No.2284350

>>2271383
>/retromemes/

>> No.2284382

>>2284105
oh man you weren't kidding.

I check his youtube account and he's commented on a lot of Pilotwings videos

>> No.2284480

>>2280386
>hearing the victory tune manually

>> No.2284546

>>2280558
Same with the guy who made the soundtrack for Lego Island

>> No.2284589

>>2284546
Oh cool. I only played the sequel, but I guess it's time to check out the original's music.

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>>2284596

This is fanart? Reminds me of the art made by the artist who does the Famitsu covers

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>>2284773
it was a cover for Super Play Magazine.

Mario 64 & Pilotwings were both n64 launch titles

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>>2279546
goddamn newytpes.

>> No.2285759

I've smh when people imply we're not getting 64 on VC because the World Trade Center's in the game and you can shoot harmless missiles at it via gyrocopter.