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It might be time to panic for anyone who collects disc based retro vidya. I've just learned about disc rot and I'm freaking out. Someone put my fears to rest. I just checked my Symphony of the Night, the game disc seems to be fine but I noticed a spot vulnerable to disc rot on the bonus music CD.

Most of these spots are caused during the manufacturing of the discs, so you're fucked from the beginning and there's nothing you can do to stop it. As long as there's no holes from the very beginning, should you be safe? These holes wont just develop on their own overtime, will they?

>> No.2245247

Unless you collect laserdiscs you dont need to worry about disc rot,ever.

>> No.2245254

Disc rot is caused by not storing your discs properly. If you keep them undamaged in close proximity to a more absorbent material than they're made from (i.e. in their cases with their paper manuals) they'll last hundreds of years in a typical environment.

>> No.2245259

>>2245254
>Disc rot is caused by not storing your discs properly.
Yes but from what I've read it seems as if a large percentage of discs are fucked from the very beginning by the manufacturing process. Something about when the discs are pressed sometimes a molecule of air is trapped between the layers of the disc and oxidation will set in over years and years and years, eventually eating away the disc.

>> No.2245274

>>2245254
>Disc rot is caused by not storing your discs properly

No it isnt,its a manufacturing defect.

>>2245259
Thats about right,Like i said before most prevalent with laserdiscs and early CD manufacturing or cheap budget dvds,and even more recently with HD-dvds but its not even worth worrying about.

>> No.2245286

>>2245259
Nope. It's either propaganda for unknown purposes or more likely an anecdotal account from someone who's storage method wasn't as proper as he'd like and like you to think. Then it went viral as alarmist writing tends to do. Thousands of idiots chimed in "Holy shit that happened to ALL the CDs on the floor of my car! Disc rot is real!" so now there's some sketchy Wikipedia article that other special morons take as fact.

But hey if it'll make you feel any better I'll buy your entire game collection right now for $1 a disc as long as there's no music, sports or educational games.

>> No.2245289

>>2245274
Your mom produced a manufacturing defect.

>> No.2245292

>>2245286
Could you take my PAL versions of Symphony of the Night, Clock Tower, Kula World and Project Zero 3? Might as well get rid of them while they still have the value of $1.

>> No.2245294
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2245294

This is the most retarded bullshit my eyes ever had to witness.

︻╦╤─
Here. Take this rifle. Blow your brains out and you will know what "rot" is when your corpse is decomposing in your room.

>> No.2245301

>>2245286
>>2245294
http://www.rfgeneration.com/news/Disc-Rot/An-important-note-to-Video-Game-Sellers-and-Buyers-1337.php
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555026

>> No.2245303

>>2245294
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_rot

Make sure not to cut yourself on that edge.

>> No.2245323

>>2245292
I absolutely would buy all those games for $1 as long as they have cases. Manuals would be great.

>>2245301
>>2245303
I've literally pre-addressed all the issues with those sources and still you paste them like morons. I've even given up on trying to reassure locals about disc rot and just started buying their disc collections.

If I were so unscrupulous as to intentionally fuel the panic to get even more cheaper collections I would feel guilty but it doesn't seem like it's going to be long until the Internet fedora machine does it for me.

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>>2245239
reason for dont buy rare games

>> No.2245410

>>2245239
As far as I know this only ever happened to some early music CDs from the 80s, that's now not playable.

But burned discs seems worse. A fujifilm music CD I made only lasted 3 years before it became unplayable.

>> No.2245427
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2245427

Disc rot is a catch all term.

Discs are manufactured in the millions. Some times a certain batch may have a defect that causes the top coating to come lose or flake off. It gets called disc rot. I have a copy of Daytona for the Saturn that had the top layer peel away in spots. It did not scratch. This happened years ago though.

So I can say generally that would of happened by now so if you disc plays it's probably good


Now 50 years down the road who knows. Maybe disc rot may be "real". Plastic could become brittle, the bonds between the CD layers could weaken, etc. Fact is CDs aren't that old yet.

I like how these threads show up after a youtube celebrity makes a video about it.

>> No.2245432

>>2245427
>I like how these threads show up after a youtube celebrity makes a video about it.

The people who post them are dime a dozen.

>> No.2245443

I've got a bunch of DVD movies that have fuckall scratches or signs of rot, and it perfectly reads data from them but some sectors are downright inaccessible, I tried every program, every thing. It's like they never existed. And yes, it read them before. Not retro, but optical media will eventually wreck for any reason at all if it was manufactured shoddily.

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2245468

I'll come upfront with my dirty little secret and say that I collect laserdiscs. My collection spans from the very late 70's to the early 2000's. I personally have never encounter a case of discrot. In the community it is a real risk but truly only affecting a small population. The most important factors are the factory that made them (1 factory in particular SONY DADC), the quality of the medium (laserdiscs are a clusterfuck of medium bindings), and in my case the dates produced (the newer the release the higher the risk of rot due to what i assume is shitty manufacturing).

Now I cant speak to total statistics but the response on http://www.lddb.com/laserrot.php indicates a rate ~1% of the total library. If that is the risk for the badly pressed and inferior LD, then I have confidence that CD and DVD has a much much lower rate of rot again depending on the manufacturer and errors.

Its pretty much just fear mongering in my lowly opinion. Love your discs, treat them well, and don't forget to play/watch them.

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>>2245468
>I'll come upfront with my dirty little secret and say that I collect laserdiscs.
you DEVIANT

>> No.2245479

Pretty good times for not being a worthless collector. Enjoying video games for what they are and not wasting a single thought on this shit.

>> No.2245483

>>2245468
The early discovision ones are the worst and sony dadc of course

>> No.2245515

>>2245479
Fucking this.
>tfw all my discs are burnable because i use modded consoles
Even then I hardly believe in what newfags consider disc rot. It hasn't even happened to me yet, and I don't even keep the fucks in their cases. By the time age gets to them emulation will probably be sufficient enough. I will just play the games on my computer while a small handful of resellers resell their stocks over and over again to one another and bump the price beyond anything anyone would ever want to pay for shitty burnable games.

>> No.2245735

>>2245239
It happens very visibly on CD-Rs but never saw it on pressed CDs (yet)

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>>2245294

>> No.2245812

Seen it on alot of CD-Rs but never on an actual game. Ones to look out for are Sega CD and PC-Engine.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnabIGhWtqI

>> No.2246503

>>2245239
I have CD's from the '80s that work perfectly. Take better care of your shit, OP.

>> No.2246509

Just looked at all my CD games.

All my PS1 games are fine. SONY gave them nigger strength.

I own 1 dreamcast game atm, Berserk, and the game is fine.

All my SEGA CD shit is fine.

I did find disc rot on "Sample This! An Interactive Sampler from Crystal Dynamics" for 3DO. I don't even own a 3DO I found this disc at a goodwill for 25 cents, with case and manual. Been trying to get rid of it.

>> No.2246517

>>2246509
>I did find disc rot on "Sample This! An Interactive Sampler from Crystal Dynamics" for 3DO
>for 25 cents
>Been trying to get rid of it.

Don't they have bins in over there in Sucker Town?

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>>2246517

I don't know. Some people are selling this for 7 bucks. I'd be happy if someone offered 1 buck but no one fux with it.

>> No.2246532

>>2246524
You think small buddy, time to step it up

>> No.2248079

just freeze them in blocks of ice like I do