What are you playing PS1 on?

[Anonymous No.2242157]

What model of PS1 do you have, or do you play on a non-retro console? What's the best PS1 console to have?

[Anonymous No.2242161]

PlayStation threads fucking everywhere

[Anonymous No.2242178]

There's a few PS1 threads up but
>What model of PS1 do you have, or do you play on a non-retro console?
All 4

>What's the best PS1 console to have?
Really isn't much difference. Newer ones apparently have better lasers.

[Anonymous No.2242183]

>>2242161
>>2242178
Sorry, I fucked up. Is the one with S-Video out sought after? How does playing on an original compare to a backwards compatible playstation?

[Anonymous No.2242186]

>>2242183
The PS2 and PS3 have their own problems. Usually just don't look that great.

The first model is neat and there are select circles that want them above others. Personally I have it just because it's the launch model. Nothing that amazing if you ask me. Not like a model 1 Genesis or 1 chip snes.

[Anonymous No.2242210]

>>2242178

>What's the best PS1 console to have?
>Really isn't much difference.

Bracing for fanboy butthurt

[Anonymous No.2242214]

>>2242210
OP here, bring on the butthurt. I'd love to know.

[Anonymous No.2242216]

>>2242214
You asked for it
>psx

[Anonymous No.2242223]

I have several scoh-1001s and several PSOnes. Not really fond of the middle ground.

If you just want to get into PS1 cheaply and reliably and you want maximum quality on a US TV your best bet will probably be to get a PS2 and softmod it then use Open PS2 Loader to run your PS1 games from a USB drive and use Component output to a CRT.

It'll take a little bit of effort to softmod but it's pretty easy and it'll cost slightly more than a PS1 plus game enhancer/boot disc and blanks but when you get it set up it'll run much more reliably.

Really though, a real PS1 modified running burned discs feels more old school and is pretty damn dirt cheap. Even if the laser is bad you can STILL get brand new whole drive assemblies for $10. The biggest caveat is no component video, Composite/Svideo/RGB only.

[Anonymous No.2242235]

I play on a Raspberry Pi, but since it's the original model it struggles with a lot of 3D games. It's never unplayable, though, and 2D games like SOTN work perfectly.

[Anonymous No.2242253]

>>2242223
why do you prefer the scho1001 over other models?

[Anonymous No.2242260]

>>2242223
how does it run more reliably if you're burning games correctly?

[Anonymous No.2242274]

>>2242157
I play on PS2 because I've heard it improves the load times, or PSP because it's portable.

[Anonymous No.2242279]

>>2242253
Typo - SCPH-1001 it has actual RCA jacks and an expansion port for game enhancers. People like to claim it has superior sound but I don't hear much difference. The lasers definitely are shittier than newer models but like I said, whole replacement drive assemblies can be had for $7-$9

>>2242260
Because you're not relying on optical discs, but you still are running games in native mode since all PS2s have the entire PS1 chipset in them. Kind of the best of both worlds. I'm not saying good discs on fresh lasers are UNreliable, just more susceptible to wear & tear.

[Anonymous No.2242282]

>>2242157
I have a working PS1, though most of the time I just use emulation, trying to play through the arc the lad series... but I'm not very far in and already bored...

[Anonymous No.2242294]

I would say that no PS1 console is the best PS1 console to have.
I base this on 2 or 3 reasons which I'll list now:
>original PS2 has backward compatibility
With an original PS2 you'll be able to play both PS1 and PS2 games
>Original PS2 had a network adapter
In itself not really important or useful at all BUT, it allowed you to install an HDD on the PS2 which leads me to
>freemcboot/equivalents
this allowed you to save games in the hard drive and play them from there. As faras I remember there's nothing like this available for any of the PS1 consoles. Now, I'm not talking about hardware mods where you boot up a cd in the PS1 and change it mid loading to be able to play burned games, but having a console with games already inside it, a selfcontained unit that need no other physical input from the player other than turning the console on and grabbing a controller. In contrast to having to turn on your PS1 with a bootup cd, wait till it boots up the cd switching screen, changing the cd with the burned cd of the game you want to play, and THEN play the game.

As far as I know there's no way to do what I just explained for a PS2 on a PS1.
If I'm wrong please correct me and point me in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.2242302]

>>2242294
The PS2 and PS3 give you weird graphics. Waiting on PSIO.

[Anonymous No.2242303]

>>2242157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTQan-O3lNM This

[Anonymous No.2242306]

>>2242302
Turn off image processing. If you're using OPL it's even more obvious that you don't want that.

[Anonymous No.2242309]

>>2242306
I don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.2242314]

>>2242302
The PS2 graphically looks exactly like a PS1 would output them, so long as you don't put smoothing on which you have to go out of your way to do anyway.

The PS3, on the other hand, can't output 240p like the PS1 and PS2 do, so everything PS1 will be scaled to 480i which will make everything look all flickery and off unless you're running it on an HDTV at 480p or higher.

[Anonymous No.2242316]

>>2242314
It looks super weird at 480p on an HDTV though.

[Anonymous No.2242317]

>>2242314
>The PS2 graphically looks exactly like a PS1 would output them
Every capture I've seen says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2242319]

>>2242309
Image processing? Go into your PS2s system menu and look. Turn all that shit off and they'll look exactly like playing on a real PS1.

[Anonymous No.2242325]

>>2242319
Everything I've seen says otherwise. I'd need a side by side that disproves all the other ones.

[Anonymous No.2242327]

>>2242317
Please post said captures then, because I've been running PS1 and PS2 for years, for the last two off of RGB and component, respectively, and there is no difference whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.2242330]

>>2242327
I don't keep it bookmarked. Go google it. Pretty widely talked about.

[Anonymous No.2242331]

>>2242325
Which is surprisingly a kinda hard thing to search for. I'm OP, I'm looking for one and I can't find anything that's actually capped properly.

[Anonymous No.2242338]

>>2242223

>Open PS2 Loader to run your PS1 games from a USB drive

Last time I tried running a PS2 from a USB drive it was slow as shit and the compatability list was minimal.

[Anonymous No.2242348]

>>2242327
and I am sure you have put two tvs side by side, with the same game running on the two systems and watched each game carefully.

[Anonymous No.2242349]

>>2242157
This is oddly convenient. I'm trying to play on my PSX but I have no working disks.

I'm trying to burn disks. I have a gold finger that let's me boot backups, and I have a working backup of Chrono Cross (not burned by me) that's burned onto Verbatim Datalifeplus disks. I went out and initially just bought some random verbatim CDRs. None of the games burned really work though. They all have broken audio or don't work at all. Then I went out and got datalifeplus disks, and having now burned a few of those, they don't work either.

At this point, I'm either trying to burn bad ISOs, or my PC's disk drive is bad, or my burning software is bad. My disk drive is a DVD-RW drive from samsung, I'm using imgBurn to burn the disks. The ISOs I download from doperoms and emuparadise and such.

I don't know if the ISOs would work on a PSX emulator, as I've not tried it. I do know that the games with broken audio at least worked half of the time in spite of missing audio. Those were burned on an burner that I don't have anymore, at the lowest speeds possible. They also worked more consistently on my hard modded PS2, which I don't have right now. My most recent failings were done at every speed imaginable from lowest to highest.

tl;dr I have burned disks that work, but none of the ones that I burn myself are working. How do I burn PSX disks the right way?

[Anonymous No.2242352]

>>2242349

Idiot, you have to chip your playstation if you want to play burnt games, this aint a fucking dreamcast

[Anonymous No.2242356]

>>2242352
>>2242349
>I'm trying to burn disks. I have a gold finger that let's me boot backups, and I have a working backup of Chrono Cross (not burned by me) that's burned onto Verbatim Datalifeplus disks.

[Anonymous No.2242357]

>>2242349
Are you swap tricking or chipped?

[Anonymous No.2242359]

>>2242356

Oh whoops, sorry. My bad.

What program are you burning with?

[Anonymous No.2242365]

>>2242357
swap tricking via Gold Finger.

>>2242359
imgBurn.

[Anonymous No.2242369]

>>2242349
It's the discs. Verbatim cashed in on their good name and most of their discs are shit now. Try Taiyo Yuden brand.

[Anonymous No.2242370]

>>2242331
not OP or the other guy, but this is true, all I can find is comparisons of games that were actually ported from the PS1 to the PS2 during the end of it's life span.

[Anonymous No.2242378]

>>2242352
there is actually a disc swap method that requires no chip, but it's actually annoyingly hard to pull off since you have to be extremely fast, and there is a big chance of scratching your discs up while doing it.

[Anonymous No.2242385]

>>2242369
fuck, really? That sucks. Especially when they worked fine for my 3DO burns.

Guess I'll return them and get some Taiyos. Gotta love waiting for shipping.

[Anonymous No.2242404]

>>2242385
Do you have a front loading Pioneer FZ-1 3DO? As much as I love the PS1 and despite the fact that Sony invented the CD medium, the FZ1 has a much better CD-Rom drive in it. It was actually one of their mistakes because it pushed up the retail price of the console. Sony used their intimate familiarity with the medium to create a cheap top-loading style drive that could undercut everybody else.

Makes it a little irritating for us twenty years later, but it was good enough to read their commercially pressed discs and one of a number of brilliant design decisions in Playstation.

[Anonymous No.2242408]

>>2242404
No, I have one of the FZ-10 toploaders. It reads my verbatim burns just fine.

[Anonymous No.2242414]

>>2242338
You should look into just doing PSX cause I always heard that it works great

[Anonymous No.2242510]

>>2242349
>>2242385

I tried burning Suikoden II a second time, and now it works. I think because I ran it at the lowest possible burn speed.

I did Pop'n Music 6, and it kind of works, but after the initial loading screen, a screen like this pops up. I know that this is a burned copy of an JP game running on a US machine, but I thought that Gold Finger got around that. Why does it do this?

[Anonymous No.2242536]

Hows PS2 with component vs. PS1 with S-Video?

[Anonymous No.2242543]

>>2242510
Use a PPR patcher along with these patches.

http://www.epforums.org/showthread.php?67412-ePSXe-Anti-Copy-Protection-Patches-Archive

[Anonymous No.2242545]

>>2242543
PPF*

[Anonymous No.2242551]

>>2242536
Component off of PS2 is way better off.

This is S-Video

[Anonymous No.2242558]

>>2242536
And this is component.

Bear in mind you can kind of nigger rig a launch model SCPH-1001 to output RGB via component by using the PS2 component cables and the yellow RCA lead out of the back to use as ext. sync to get the same image quality as a PS2 using component pictured here.

[Anonymous No.2242623]

>>2242543
I couldn't find one for Pop'n 6, will any patch work? Perhaps a generic patch exists?

[Anonymous No.2242625]

>>2242558
So you're getting RGB from the PS2?

[Anonymous No.2242654]

>>2242625
The SCPH-1001 is the original PlayStation. The picture was just still from a PS2, but I figured I'd mention it. You can still run the PS2 (And I'd imagine other model PS1s without the RCA outputs on the back) in RGB but you need one of those component cables that also has composite video so you can use that as sync, so long as you set the PS2's component output settings to RGB. Not much of a discernable difference between the two but it's convenient if you've got an older monitor that accepts RGB but not YPbPr, or if you just want to use an original PlayStation for authenticity.

Also, for the record, it appears that the PS1 and PS2 do indeed output different video quality. Pictured is the PS1 using the same component cables on the same monitor with the same color settings. As you can see, the picture appears more pale, but Richter's skin appears more lifelike and accurate to the ripped sprites. PS2 component is very vibrant but a little over saturated in comparison. Either way, both consoles output really nice picture. Didn't notice how saturated the PS2 was until I popped in SotN on the PS1, though. I guess spritework makes stuff like this more obvious.

[Anonymous No.2242661]

>>2242558
>>2242654
So I guess my question was, you're displaying PS1 in RGB through PS2 + component, but you can also get RGB through component cable with composite video for sync?

[Anonymous No.2242667]

>>2242661
Yes. In case it wasn't clear:
>>2242654 This is what RGB from a PS1 looks like with the component + composite-sync method looks like
>>2242558 This is what straight-up component off of PS2 looks like using the very same cables.

[Anonymous No.2242675]

>>2242667
>>2242654
What are you talking about component and c sync? Did you mod your PS1?

[Anonymous No.2242682]

>>2242675
No. As I said, SCPH-1001 PlayStations have RCA output on the back. The PSX does not support YPbPr, so just using the component cables will not work. However, the RCA output and proprietary A/V output simultaneously, so you can take the composite video from the RCA jacks and use that as the external sync for RGB.

As I also said, you can -probably- do this method with those component cables that also have composite leads, but I only have the official cables, and those only have component video and audio.

[Anonymous No.2242685]

>>2242682
So it's RGsB with the c video as sync. That makes a lot more sense. Neat.

[Anonymous No.2242729]

>>2242685
whats the difference between RGB and RGsB?

[Anonymous No.2242738]

>>2242729
RGB is just color. RGsB has the sync on green. It's basically a 240p component cable.

[Anonymous No.2242748]

>>2242729
Also I should add I think that's what the guy is doing. Could be RGBC

[Anonymous No.2242847]

>>2242157
I currently play PSX games on the PSP, my console died, I used the PC sometime too. Last game I played was Vagrant Story... again-

[Anonymous No.2242884]

>>2242157
Been playing LSD, G Darius and Donpachi on my Vita
I want to get another PS1 for my flat though

[Anonymous No.2243072]

>>2242654
>Also, for the record, it appears that the PS1 and PS2 do indeed output different video quality
I'm sure it's just a matter of slightly different amperages and could easily be adjusted for in your monitor.

The PS2/PS1 graphic debate is about the internal rendering methods.

[Anonymous No.2243189]

popstarter on my softmodded ps2, via glorious RGB SCART

[Anonymous No.2243195]

>>2243189
Why Popstarter not OPL?

[Anonymous No.2243265]

>>2242331
>>2242370
There only a bunch of unsupported games due to hardware tidbits, the others play just like the PS1, no graphical glitches whatsoever, and how could you even explain those, since it's all been processed the exact same way by the exact same processor? He didn't even give a source for his statement.

By the way, I'm pretty sure playing PS1 games on PS2 is disc only.

[Anonymous No.2243416]

>>2242338
Loading a PS2 through the USB is absolutely moronic actually because it's 1.1 and three times slower than even the already slow disc drive (at least for PS2 games). The best way is to get a network adapter and put a hard drive in it. You can also mod a hard drive into a PS2 Slim but it'll require soldering.

[Anonymous No.2243523]

>>2242748
No, he's using the yellow jack as the Y cable, I think? While taking Pr and Pb from R and B pins.

RGB+Sync (4 wires) is called RGBs.

[Anonymous No.2243527]

>>2243416
This is the correct answer. Buy a network adapter on ebay and use hdloader. Far and away the best method. I have a PS2 with a broken laser and use it for this. Hdloader also has a pal/ntsc toggle, very helpful.

[Anonymous No.2243543]

>>2243527
>I have a PS2 with a broken laser

Mine has a worn out lens mechanism, is it really fucked? I already own the network adapter, is any hdd going to cut it? Then I still need FMCB, I suppose. I'm still not sure how to get the data into an empty card, will an usb adapter work? Does loading discs with the hdd use the PS2's native BC?

[Anonymous No.2243550]

>>2243543
There's a memoryou card exploit that is slightly complicated but not so much that an idiot like me couldn't do it. Google HDLoader and WinHiip tutorials. Once you have the exploit in place, it's a simple matter of ripping the iso and copying them to an IDE drive, or copying them directly in HDLoader or your PS2.

[Anonymous No.2243551]

>>2243550
Pretty sure this requires reading from discs or using swapmagic, and I really can't.

[Anonymous No.2243601]

>>2243527
>>2243543
>>2243550
>>2243551
you don't need freemcboot anymore
you can flash a HDD image to your HDD and stick it in your ps2 and it's good to go.

i just did it last week.

it even comes with a preinstalled psx game, Gradius Gaiden

http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/playstation/tools/48-bit-hdd-osd-110-and-preinstalled-applications/

[Anonymous No.2243654]

>>2243601
So this automatically softmods the console on every startup and doesn't evenwrite any new memory into the PS2's flash? This is pretty cool, but how do PS1 games run? Off an emulator or actually using the BC?

[Anonymous No.2243708]

>>2243654
POPS i think

i saw no issues testing the preinstalled gradius game nor crash 2 that i tried afterwards.

[Anonymous No.2243738]

>>2243523
RGBS and RGBC are the same thing. I don't see how he's getting YPrPb. PS1 doesn't output component. He either combined sync on G for RGsB or is using RGBC

[Anonymous No.2243747]

>>2243708
Yeah but it's like going for pSXfin when you have Mednafen available.

[Anonymous No.2243827]

I use my PS2 to play PS1 backups.

SwapMagic + ULauncher, insert retail disk, stop disk, swap for burnt and then run.

Only issue is that it's a region locked trick. Fucking PAL games.

[Anonymous No.2243869]

I play on the PC

What's the best emulators /vr/?

[Anonymous No.2243891]

>>2243601
>>2243416

What's a good HDD to get? Looking for cheap so a smaller one is probably better so I can get 2, one for my PS2 and one for my Wii U.