Remakes, Enhanced Ports, and Remasters

[Anonymous No.2241057]

So what was your favorite remake of a /vr/ game?

[Anonymous No.2241065]

Lunar Silver Star Story for the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.2241070]

>>2241065
Lol the Sega CD versions of both those games are objectively better, especially Lunar 2 which was crazy disappointing with missing animations, missing music tracks, the Illusion Woods completely changed to take out the actual illusions... So sad how far GameArts fell and so quickly.

[Anonymous No.2241080]

>>2241057

Daily reminder

[Anonymous No.2241087]

>>2241080

Oops, forgot about korean lillia.

[Anonymous No.2241123]

Pokemon FR/LG.

It's not 100% perfect, but all the fixes for that have long since been administered.

[Anonymous No.2241134]

>>2241123
This is a good one actually, I really liked that version a lot.

I may get called a pariah for this, but I really like the GBA port of Super Mario 2.

[Anonymous No.2241152]

Much better than the original, and the original's pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.2241438]

>>2241134

It's okay, I really liked it too. :^]

[Anonymous No.2241468]

>>2241057
Ys I & II Complete is my absolute favorite remake of any game. There have been later remakes of Ys I & II since then, but Complete will always be my top since it's got he best art and music out of the remakes.

[Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo No.2242769]

Metal Slug X is by and large the replacement for 2, such is its quality.

[Anonymous No.2242785]

FF4 DS
Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon
Ys I & II Chronicles+

Those are my 3 fav remakes.

I will forever hope for a remake of WarCraft 1 & 2. Why the hell hasn't Blizzard done this yet?

[Anonymous No.2242787]

>>2241152
This so very much.

>>2242769
There are way too many pointless changes. Removing the slowdown was a great, but otherwise it's not that big of a deal.

[Anonymous No.2242842]

>>2241080
SATURN VERSION BEST

[Anonymous No.2242873]

>>2241080
>>2242842
8 > 7 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 6

[Anonymous No.2242969]

I liked Wild arms 1 remake. It was more like a whole new game system with the same story line, but I thought it was done pretty good.

[Anonymous No.2242971]

Maverick Hunter X

Vile mode 2strong

[Anonymous No.2243084]

Normally I'd just go with REmake but instead I will raise awareness of a great remake that I never see being talked about.

Castle of Illusion starring Mickey Mouse.

The original was one of the very first games I ever played, and 20 years later I replayed it on a newly bought Mega Drive (the one I had as a kid had long been thrown away). Eventually I bought the remake on PS3 and I was really happy to see how good it is.

It's essentially the same game but taking advantage of the third dimension in a retro kind of way. It doesn't try to innovate nor does it try to fuck with the original game, instead it recreates the original experience and polishes it up in a gorgeous game.

There are two significant additions, voice acting and cutscenes. But if you so wish, you can disable the voices, and the cutscenes are entirely skippable. But even if they weren't, the entire game is essentially the same length as the original. I sorta expected it to be some bloated thing filled with unnecessary crap to keep you going, and while you are encouraged to pick up all the gems to unlock enemy bios and concept art, it's entirely optional.

I highly recommend any fan of the original, or just plain ol 2D platformers from the Mega Drive to try out the Castle of Illusion remake, it's just great and comfy.

[Anonymous No.2243113]

How do you guys feel about the Tactics Ogre remake?

[Anonymous No.2243117]

>>2241468
But Chronicles+ by Xseed is objectively better since it has the art of both Complete and Chronicles, and the music of the original, Complete, and Chronicles, and you can mix and match them to your liking.

[Anonymous No.2243140]

>>2242873
4 > 6 > 7 > 5 > 8 > 1 = 2 > 3

[Anonymous No.2243142]

>>2243113
Excellent, but I wish they remade the sprites and gave us 3D stages.

[Anonymous No.2243184]

>>2243113
I really didn't like it. Mostly because I wanted to keep recruiting new types of units and monsters into my party, but by mid game leveling them up from lvl1 became a horrible chore.

They also added in a rewind feature, which sounded good at first but again by mid game it just started to be awaste of time because it feels like the game is balanced so you'll have to make a lot of use of it.

I like my games hard, but in the TTO remake there would frequently be cases where an enemy would get a critical and kill a troop you wouldn't be able to revive in time. So wind back the clock and do it again and again.

It's not all bad, there was a lot of good in the game. But those two things really killed it for me. The last thing I wanted to do when I'd finally recruited that cool looking lizardman warrior dude, was to spend the next five hours grinding him up so I can actually use him in my party.

[Anonymous No.2243221]

>>2243113
I think they screwed up a lot of things and made a lot of classes much worse than the original without actually rebalancing anything, Archers got even more OP than the original which is not good at all, most of the new fused classes take away all the fun and challenge of making a party balanced around people who were truly supporters or specialists, now everyone can do almost anything but it's not even good like the original where I could get a legit melee Warlock with swords, I'm very disappointed in most of the new stuff regarding the gameplay, it made the game thrice as grindy as the original.

I think this is a pretty good remake though, some tracks are even better arranged than the originals, Cross Fear for instance.
Some small level changes are a bit questionable but overall it's a very good remake though I think the gameplay is marginally slower than the original.

[Anonymous No.2243532]

>>2243117
Nothing Chronicles+ adds is superior. Sure, Eternal might be part of Chronicles+ but if you literally do not like any of the new stuff in Chronicles+ then basically the only thing you like is actually Eternal. Ys Eternal/Complete is my favorite version I & II.

[Anonymous No.2243542]

>>2241468

Wasn't this released only in Japan? How did you get english words?

[Anonymous No.2243556]

>>2243542
Long before XSEED, the Ys fandom was playing fan translated Falcom PC games. The translator of Eternal and a prominent Falcom fan (Tom) went on to work for XSEED.
>tfw nearly ten years ago you were playing PC Ys games and trying to tell /v/ how good Falcom was and they only just caught on one or two years ago and now they just keep bitching that Falcom doesn't make PC games anymore
I still remember the Sora no Kiseki fan translation project

[Anonymous No.2243557]

>>2243542
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/582/

[Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo No.2243567]

Speak of the devil, you can buy Ys I & II Chronicles+ on GOG now, DRM-free.

[Anonymous No.2243908]

If it had Co-Op it would be the definitive version of the game. I'd almost argue that it still is, just because of all the stuff they added but then again i have no friends so the lack of Co Op means nothing to me

[Anonymous No.2244071]

>>2243556
Ys I & II Complete was translated by Deuce and NightWolfe though, not Tom.

[Anonymous No.2244104]

>>2244071
Nowhere in that post does it say Tom translated anything, bro.

[Anonymous No.2244148]

>>2243532
Complete is a subset of the Chronic+
More == Better

[Anonymous No.2244289]

>>2244148
That has nothing to do with what remake of Ys is my favorite, autist-san.

[Anonymous No.2244424]

>>2243567
Oh, neat, you can. I wonder if Xseed would give GOG or Humble keys to people who bought the game on steam prior to having a choice. I doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to ask given that, at worst, I'm just told "no".

[Anonymous No.2244848]

>>2243556
I remember the Ys Tom-nightwolve fiasco!
Tom betrayed Nightwolve and run away with the xseed money. Nightvolve became a very angry and lunatic man.

[Anonymous No.2244850]

>>2244848
Nightwolve got mad because he didn't get any xseed money, yeah. He was just a programmer anyway. They paid Deuce for his translation, not the patch.

[Anonymous No.2244865]

>>2244850
And the pay me money, to remove the malware in his last patch the one with the complete mural
One time he say to me that, he will hunt me donw and kill me, for releasing the patch to public after donating to him $5 bucks.

[Anonymous No.2244872]

>>2244850
I don't know man, if it was not for nightwolve hacking skills that translation, will never go out to public and therefore Tom will never be working for x-seed right now.
If i where the other guy at least i give the man some compensation for let me be famous. and spread my work to the world.
pretty low move from Tom.

[Anonymous No.2244901]

>>2244865
His personality was basically that of your average /pol/ poster so he went ballistic when the Felghana patch got leaked and he just went completely bonkers after XSeed began releasing Ys games with Deuce. Oh my god the carnage.

>>2244872
I sort of agree and sort of don't. I do think that for what Nightwolve had done, Tom and XSeed should have given him a spot on the project. He's got skills. However, it was clear that he was raving lunatic after what happened with the Felghana patch and the moneygrabbing schemes (I have never seen someone sperg the word "warez" so much) so I'm sure Tom dodged a bullet by not letting such an immature person on the team. He kind of ruined it for himself IMO.

[Anonymous No.2247432]

>>2244865
>One time he say to me that, he will hunt me donw and kill me, for releasing the patch to public after donating to him $5 bucks.
haha, he banned me from his forum after I said that needed to move on, after 2-3 years of still raging like a bitch. And the funny part is I said it on aloy. The faggot actually stalks other sites, looking for anyone that disagrees with his opinion and if possible, bans them from his own site. Like anyone cares about his dead forum. What a loser.

[Anonymous No.2247603]

>>2244901
Nightwolve did NOT deserve anything. XSeed paid for the original source code, so they had no need for his reverse engineered script insertion method. Meaning that he brought NOTHING to the table.

Nightwolve can cry, piss, moan and throw all the accusations around he wants, but he cannot prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the tools he created were used to speedup the process of transferring Deuce's script to Falcom's own code. And even IF what his claims were true, manually copy & pasting the script would only take a few hours. So he is still not deserving of all this money he claims to have been bilked out of.

That said, I find it ironic, that Nightwolve is claiming Deuce screwed him, when Deuce never got a cent of all the "donations" Nightwolves took in to begin with. That's right, Nightwolve just took his scripts and one day decided he was going to charge for "his work". As from what I recall, he never cleared it with Deuce & he never gave any of that money to Deuce, he simply did it and Deuce kept quiet. Nightwolve simply got a taste of his own medicine.

[Anonymous No.2247658]

>>2247603
Karma is a bitch, yeah?

[Anonymous No.2247674]

>>2247432
>tfw Nightwolve is probably in this thread right now

[Anonymous No.2247696]

>>2247674
I bet he's posting on /pol/ right now

[Anonymous No.2247698]

I like how the FFIV remakes let you use the rest of the cast at the end(besides the lame DS version).

However, the best is Dragon Quest V DS.

[Anonymous No.2247742]

>>2247698
The best part about the GBA/PSP port is the postgame combined with that ability. A random floor dungeon like that is fucking brilliant, especially since there was a mix between straight dungeon floors and puzzle rooms. Some character-specific floors aren't that great, but the one for the twins is great.

I'd almost say someone should make an Ancient Cave hack out of it, like FFV.

[Anonymous No.2247806]

>>2247742
That would be awesome.

[Anonymous No.2247813]

>>2241057
I really like a lot of the VGA Sierra games, if only because I'm not a fan of text parser input. I just like point-and-click more than tic-a-tac.

[Anonymous No.2247819]

>>2247813
Specifically, I meant VGA remakes, ala King's Quest 1, Quest for Glory 1, Leisure Suit Larry.

The AGS fan-remakes are also pretty good.

[Anonymous No.2248191]

>>2247603
It was for nightwolve hack that deuce work got noticed by everyone and x-seed.

Do you think if deuce aka tom posted a complete translation of the script in a random online page, he get all the attention he got?

HAhaha Give me a break man! You are just deluding yourself!

And yeah nightwolve is a damn lunatic
If i where deuce i will never wanted to be around me, he's a psycho and probably dangerous.


http://www.ysutopia.net/forums/index.php?topic=290.0

[Anonymous No.2248196]

>>2241468

Lilia a shit.

[Anonymous No.2248214]

>>2243113
It's the GOAT port.

[Anonymous No.2248248]

>>2248196
>Lilia a best.
You seem to have made a rather grave typo, my good friend. I've assumed are, indeed, not a faggot and have corrected your quite atrocious error. Good day to you.

[Anonymous No.2248260]

>>2248248
I like man so what? now is the correct thing to do
and you are just better at everything by being gay!

[Anonymous No.2248265]

Anybody play the Majora's Mask remake? What're your thoughts? I thought the OoT remake was pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.2248270]

>>2248260
>and you are just better at everything by being gay!
Everything except continuing the human race

[Anonymous No.2248280]

>>2241152
Shame you can't get it on the PS3 anymore. You can only get Rearmed 2, and that game sucks.

[Anonymous No.2248289]

>>2248270
Every cool kid is gay now deal with it!

[Anonymous No.2248293]

>>2248270
In vitro!
even famous gays like cristiano ronaldo, ricky martin and michael jackson do it, you are just ignorant

[Anonymous No.2248319]

I'm happy that SaGa 3 got a DS remake that made it more SaGa-y.

[Anonymous No.2248320]

Lilia a shit.
A
SHIT

[Anonymous No.2248325]

>>2248319
The DS ports are great, and even better that they have a much better translation now thanks to fans.

I just wish the first one got a port so we could have consistency.

[Anonymous No.2248326]

Avernum remakes are ace, because the original devs are doing it with things they can do now and extra content. Straight improvement all the way.

I hope one day Geneforge sees the same treatment after the first Avernum trilogy.

[Anonymous No.2248360]

>>2248320
a big one
a grat one

[Anonymous No.2248379]

>>2248320
Lilia a best.
A
BEST

[Anonymous No.2248395]

>>2244289
Your initial comment stated your own opinion as fact.
The autism is now on the other foot, BTFO-chan.

[Anonymous No.2248409]

>>2244289
Your subkektivity has nothing to to with my obkektivity, btfo-chan.

[Anonymous No.2248427]

>>2248320
>>2248379
My favorite Adol girl pairing is Feena. Lilia's cool and all but she's kinda plain compared to, you know, a GODDESS. (Or an Eldeen, whatever). My least favorite girl was Elena, she was too whiny. Should have died powering up Galbalan.

Though of course my favorite Adol pairing is the canon one. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.2248449]

>>2248427
>Lilia's cool and all but she's kinda plain compared to, you know, a GODDESS
Lilia has more of a character than that walking deus ex machina. If the only reason you prefer Feena is because she's a GODDESS then you need to reevaluate your position.

[Anonymous No.2248563]

>>2248449
I like Feena's entire story with how she deals with being a "goddess", taking into account Ys Origin too. She's seemingly always trying to be seen as an equal by others, but they always worship and protect her. Thanks to her amnesia and Adol, she is finally happy and a normal person, however briefly, before having to go back to being an Eldeen and taking care of Darm and Ys.

That entire scenario is way more interesting than some village chick falling for the guy who brings her medicine. And then proceeding to stalk him wherever he goes. Eh, I dunno, Feena's a lot more interesting both by herself and with Adol.

[Anonymous No.2248581]

>>2248563
>And then proceeding to stalk him wherever he goes
What? She didn't stalk him. She got captured and brought to the castle along with a bunch of other people. She later encounters Adol again in Ys IV's various versions. At the end of both PS2 Ys I & II Eternal and one of the versions of Ys IV, she and Adol wed.

[Anonymous No.2249250]

It's a little bit casualized but it's worth a play at least

[Anonymous No.2249251]

[Anonymous No.2249253]

[Anonymous No.2249258]

[Anonymous No.2249261]

[Anonymous No.2249271]

Shattered Memories wasn't a very good game, but it had a lot of really interesting ideas. Comparing it to the original SH feels a little futile since the two games are so different.

[Anonymous No.2249274]

>>2248581

Im glad that shit got knocked out of canon.

Karana is best girl anyways. Just not retro. kinda. this one isn't. she's still best girl though.

[Anonymous No.2249795]

>>2243908
Sadly the game is too short. They should have doubled the length.

[Anonymous No.2249806]

>>2249261
I'm on the fence about this one. While it added a whole bunch of cool things, the inclusion of a map made it less fun for me.

The FDS version is fucking great though.

[Anonymous No.2250381]

>>2249274
>Im glad that shit got knocked out of canon.
>implying

Ys will end with Adol settling down with Lilia for many decades before he eventually takes his last adventure to visit Santa.

[Anonymous No.2250389]

>>2243556
but I remember people raving about YS all the time ever since I started going to this site, which was when it first started up... albeit it was on boards other than /v/ since I never really went there except for a little bit to find out that it was too stupid for me.

[Anonymous No.2250397]

>>2249806
>the inclusion of a map made it less fun for me.
I seriously hate people like you

[Anonymous No.2250402]

>>2249253
I really don't get the worshiping of this, I think the updated art style is ugly and there is way too much hand holding that drags down the game play

[Anonymous No.2250421]

>>2241057
The playstation remake of Tales of Phantasia is the definitive version in my opinion. It was only released in japan but has two translations that are both very good. Not sure if I'm going against the theme of the thread by the remake it's self being retro though.

[Anonymous No.2250426]

>>2250381
>north pole
>age 63

Oh, now the Dawn of Ys ending makes more sense.

[Anonymous No.2250430]

Metroid Zero Mission
Ys I&II
REmake
Dragon Quest I-III on the Super Famicom
Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land
OoT and Majora's Mask
Pokemon HG/SS
Super Mario All Stars

[Anonymous No.2250434]

>>2250381
>settling for Lilia

fixed that for ya

[Anonymous No.2250439]

>>2249258
this is a new game, not a remake, still good but not retro.

[Anonymous No.2250443]

>>2250430

I agree with Pokemon Heart Gold and Sould Silver. Pokemon peaked with those Remakes + Platinum.

[Anonymous No.2250454]

>>2250430
>OoT and Majora's Mask
those aren't even remakes though.. or are you going off the old "IT'S JUST A SHITTY REMAKE OFLINK TO THE PAST!!!" trolls?

[Anonymous No.2250456]

>>2250454
I mean the 3D ones they just came out with

[Anonymous No.2250460]

>>2250456
but that's not a remake either, it's an enhanced port, there is a difference.

[Anonymous No.2250489]

>>2241070
They made the combat way better though, it can actually be a hard game.

[Anonymous No.2250930]

>>2241057
Can't believe nobody's mentioned Oath in Felghana. Best remake hands down. Ys III had nice music, good graphics and a semi interesting premise, but the gameplay was shit. Felghana improves III on EVERY respect and is by far the better game.

[Anonymous No.2250958]

Remakes aren't /vr/
Thread reported

[Anonymous No.2251082]

>>2250930
>but the gameplay was shit
It wasn't that bad.

>>2250958
>Remakes aren't /vr/
Depends on when they came out, dumdum. >>2250421 and >>2247813 both mention remakes that are actually /vr/, as well.

[Anonymous No.2251207]

>>2250397
Bruh, calm down. Some enjoy writing down their own maps.

[Anonymous No.2251243]

>Nobody has mentioned Kirby Super Star Ultra
It suprassed the original by a massive margin because of the extra content added, the only downside is the lack of coop but you can still have a CPU partner

[Anonymous No.2251248]

>>2251243
>lacks co-op
>surpasses Kirby Super Star
How about no.

[Anonymous No.2252886]

>>2244148
>We could've gotten this artist or Napishtim/Felghana's artist for TitS.
>instead we got generic sameface Sen no Kiseki artist

[Anonymous No.2252981]

>>2241057
Holy shit I just beat this today. Working on Origins now and Phelgana after.
II has some awesome looking bosses.

[Anonymous No.2252984]

>>2252981
took alot of pics of both I and II.
Darm was alot less dildos then Dark Fact.

[Anonymous No.2252987]

>>2252984
I am gla I played Chronicles before Origin, as I already get most of the story so far.

[Anonymous No.2252990]

>>2252987
And I leave you with some more Lilia.

[Anonymous No.2252993]

>>2248280
Get it on PC. A toaster can run it.

[Anonymous No.2252997]

The SaGa 2 DS remake. While I didn't care for the animu character designs, all the additions worked fantastically with the game overall and it retained a lot of it's charm from the original as well as all the unique character options.

Having all that on top of the cool relationship system that enhanced the headcanon I always made for my characters as a kid and ACTUALLY AFFECTED GAMEPLAY really sold the thing to me. If only I could own a physical copy in English.

[Anonymous No.2253014]

>>2248191

So what though?

If I do great work as a mechanic at some dude's shop, he's not entitled to part of my paycheck at my next job just because the business he runs is on my resume.

[Anonymous No.2253192]

Speaking of Ys. Anyone have a link to Ys VI Ark of Napishtim english translation for the PC?

[Anonymous No.2253365]

>>2253192
>king of Ys. Anyone have a link to Ys VI Ark of Napishtim english translation for the PC?
here this is the guy that translated all the damn games before x-seed and nightwolve

http://www.figlidigaucci.eu/index.php?ind=downloads&op=section_view&idev=7

[Anonymous No.2253370]

>>2253192
can't find typing tutor sorry ;(

[Anonymous No.2253423]

>>2250430
>all stars

I honestly prefer the originals for each game.

[Anonymous No.2253634]

>>2251243
I didn't like the CGI cutscenes, mostly because it's DS qulaity video (ie. crap). The extra content (new minigames and modes excluding the Helper to Hero) weren't that entertaining.

>>2251248
Apparently you can play coop if you have multiple carts and DSs. Seriously though, complaining about lack of coop on a hand console is retarded.

[Anonymous No.2253669]

>>2250397
Calm down bro. Not him but some people just like drawing their own maps.

[Anonymous No.2253684]

>>2241123
any specific romhacks you have in mind?

[Anonymous No.2253689]

>>2250460
They changed quite a bit in Majora's Mask 3D so i would say it is.

[Anonymous No.2253991]

>>2253634
>Seriously though, complaining about lack of coop on a hand console

But I'm not doing that, you dumbshit. I'm comparing it to the original. I'm not cursing the DS version for not having co-op, I'm simply saying it's not superior because the original has co-op.

[Anonymous No.2254069]

>>2249253
Absolute abomination compared to the original.

[Anonymous No.2254074]

>>2253669
sorry, I'm just used to people on here thinking that any game with a map is evil and a sign of modern hand holding and blah blah blah and I thought that was what he was getting at.

[Anonymous No.2254094]

>>2250460
>remake
>enhanced port

I think there is no agreed upon terminology

This thread is all over the place though

[Anonymous No.2254192]

>>2253991
Coop barely matters.
I'd rather have better partner AI than coop.

[Anonymous No.2254298]

>>2254192
That's because you literally have no friends and grew up playing Kirby Super Star all by yourself.

[Anonymous No.2254363]

>>2254298
Whenever I played video games with other people, it was annoying. I'd rather just play games by myself.

[Anonymous No.2254394]

Already played and loved Felghana, and Ys Seven, which was less good but still fun. Should I play Origin or 1+2 Chronicles next ?

[Anonymous No.2254435]

>>2254363
You sound like a blast

[Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo No.2254438]

>>2254394
Chronicles+ would provide variety, given that it's much older and simpler in some ways, and you'd have Origin after that for learning the backstory of ! & II.

>tfw no Xak remakes in the foreseeable future

[Anonymous No.2254441]

>>2254435
I do what Nintendon't.

[Anonymous No.2254781]

>>2253365
thanks!

[Anonymous No.2255927]

>>2247658
For the mentally unstable, it appears to be so very much.

>>2248191
And?

That still doesn't translate to that cocksucker deserving a single penny from xseed. And as for wither or not Deuce would have been 'noticed' by anyone is irreverent, as he doesn't work full-time for xseed. All they did was buy his translations. Wyrd got the fulltime job at xseed.

>>2250930
>but the gameplay was shit
It really depends on the version. From what little I've played, I'd say the Genesis version played pretty damn good. But the Turbografix version was a huge disappointment.

[Anonymous No.2256480]

>>2253014
>>2255927
guys, the joke is he's pretending to be nightwolve.
don't take it seriously.

>And yeah nightwolve is a damn lunatic
>If i where deuce i will never wanted to be around me

[Anonymous No.2256654]

>>2241152
Bison and red haired Wesker in this pic?

[Anonymous No.2256980]

>>2242971
Maverick Hunter X is pretty great, but I still prefer the original X. Powered Up however, is better than the original, and it's probably one of my top 5 Megaman games.

>cute art style
>two new robot masters
>new level designs but can also play the old ones
>can play as every robot master, plus Protoman, plus Roll with a variety of outfits
>fun challenge levels for each character
>can make your own levels, plus a plethora of free dlc levels

This and Dracula X Chronicles are my favorite PSP games, which is funny since they're remakes/compilations.

[Anonymous No.2257062]

>>2256980
I hate the Dracula X Chronicles remake of Rondo and Symphony of the Night. But especially the Rondo remake. They ruined the physics, controls, visuals... everything. And then you have to unlock Symphony of the Night. Which is almost a good port since it combines the PSX version of the game with the extra content from the Saturn version but then they had to go and change Maria's moveset and not even give the option to play the original version of her moveset. Goddamn that irked me.

[Anonymous No.2257220]

>>2255927
Because his hacking work is what made tom go noticed by xseed,
Do you really think, if Tom just post and online script will have the same impact as a complete finished playable product?
Yeah sure i don't think so Tim!
The guy deserves a bone!

[Anonymous No.2257249]

>>2257220
I agree. I'd say his efforts - which took real time, energy and skill - were instrumental in gathering attention for the Ys series and helped pave the way for its revival in the west. He was in a very good position to get hooked up with an industry job but he ruined it with his shit personality.

[Anonymous No.2257254]

>>2257062

Can you give me exact technical examples on how the physics and controls were ruined?
It plays a little bit different, but it's still good. I had no trouble playing the remake.
Also you forgot they remade stage 5b so it's actually a new level now (instead of assets of other levels like in the original), and Dracula is now actually a good final boss with a bitchy 3rd form.
As for the visuals, I dunno, I think they look good. I still prefer the original 2D sprite porn, but to be honest, many of the backgrounds on the original Rondo weren't that good (plain brick walls, pitch black backgrounds ala Famicom, etc). The remake has tons of detailed backgrounds. Yeah, it's not 2D, but it being 3D doesn't automatically mean it's bad, you know?

As for Maria's moveset on SOTN. Well, Maria wasn't even playable on the original PS1 version. And I actually prefer her moveset on the PSP version, she still plays like herself on Rondo, so I don't know how that is bad.
I agree it would have been cool to have her Saturn moveset as an optional thing (and while we're at it, the Saturn extra stages, even though they aren't really that good), but I guess that's asking for too much.
I still think DXC version of SOTN is the definitive.

Really love DXC, it's also one of my favorites on the PSP.

[Anonymous No.2257275]

>>2257254
The Rondo remake is hideous. And no I can't give technical information on how the physics and controls were altered. That's ridiculous. But if you think that the remade 3D Rondo plays and controls exactly like the 2D original then you are crazy. A completely remade game will never control like the original. There are going to be differences in environments, timing, frames, whatever.

[Anonymous No.2257296]

>>2257275

>The Rondo remake is hideous

how? the picture you posted isn't exactly bad-looking.
Here's a screenshot of the original, so you can remember it wasn't as pretty as you think all the time either, it had rather dull enviroments sometimes.
Anyway, I already said I still prefer the original, simply because I love the spritework, but the remake has its own things going on, for example the new animal attacks for Maria look phenomenal (also on SOTN).

>And no I can't give technical information on how the physics and controls were altered

Then maybe try to avoid using these words and simply say "I don't liked how it controls", not that they were "ruined", they were not.

>A completely remade game will never control like the original.

Right, I never said it did. I said it does play a bit different, but ruined? I don't think so, it's still a good 2D Castlevania, as the original Rondo is. You simply prefer the original's controls more. I think either are fine in that regard, found that the backflip is easier to pull off in the remake, actually.

Not trying to sound like a bitch, but I think your reasons to hate on the remake is simply "it's not an exact 1:1 copy of the original".

[Anonymous No.2257320]

I just hope the PSP remake of Devil Summoner english patch gets released.... someday.

[Anonymous No.2257343]

>>2257275
only things I didn't like was the maria redesign and how some objects are hard to judge whether they are in the background or foreground. I lost quite a couple lives trying to jump on background elements.

But yeah I see your point.

[Anonymous No.2257348]

>>2257296
>how? the picture you posted isn't exactly bad-looking.
Are you kidding me? That's very low quality 3D and it looks ever worse in motion.
>Then maybe try to avoid using these words
The game plays horrible and they ruined the fined tuned controls of the original. Fuck off with your hugbox language.

>Not trying to sound like a bitch, but I think your reasons to hate on the remake is simply "it's not an exact 1:1 copy of the original".
No my complaint is that it's a huge downgrade from the original in terms of visual and controls. The team that remade Rondo of Blood was not the caliber as the team that made the original.

You seem unable to accept that someone thinks your favorite version of Rondo of Blood is shit. You just keep replying with the equivalent of
>prove it
>you're just a nostalgiafag
>don't use those words!

[Anonymous No.2257354]

you know they included the original rondo as an unlockable in dracula x chronicles, right?
just sayin'

[Anonymous No.2257356]

>>2257348

>The game plays horrible and they ruined the fined tuned controls of the original

not until you can prove it with actual technical language and proof, it's just your opinion, and it is worth shit.

>Fuck off with your hugbox language.

Fuck off with your meme language, this isn't /v/

>You seem unable to accept that someone thinks your favorite version of Rondo of Blood is shit.
>favorite version of Rondo of Blood

I said my favorite verson is the original. Are you even reading me, kiddo?

Anyway, go on, hate on it, like I fucking care. Just wanted to expose your ignorance.

[Anonymous No.2257359]

>>2257348

what an insufferable faggot

[Anonymous No.2257364]

>>2257356
>it's just your opinion
It's all opinions, m8.
Not everyone is going to agree with you.

[Anonymous No.2257365]

>>2257364

Right, and I wasn't the one making hyperbolic claims such as "They ruined the game's physics and controls!". I prefer the original Rondo, but the remake is hardly a bad game.

[Anonymous No.2257368]

>>2254438
>8,800 yen
w-what

I can understand cart games of the time being costly like that (since like, $20-30 of your cost might have been from the cart), but this comes on disks, which were cheap even at the time.

and this is 1988 money, and this is when the yen was strong

oh, and that boxart is cool (also, that typography for the logo, hnnnnng)

[Anonymous No.2257372]

>>2257356
>it's just your opinion
Yes, you fucking moron. That is what's being posted. Your opinion. And mine. Difference is, I didn't attack your opinion with logical fallacies and ridiculous shit like
>prove it with technical language
You ignoramus. Are you saying the original Rondo and remake Rondo play exactly the same? No? Then there's no need for technical proof, so what are you trying to say? That I can't have my opinion? You realize that you're getting up in arms because I said that I don't like the game? Good god you're dumb.

[Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo No.2257376]

>>2257368
3.5-inch floppies are more complex to produce than 5.5-inch ones, which means an increase in labor/equipment costs. Feelies, manuals, and the assumption that PC owners were loaded with cash likely pushed up prices for these games. I wouldn't be surprised if this explains Arsys's success with games as big priced lower for the most part (6800 to 7800 yen).

[Anonymous No.2257383]

>>2257372

>Difference is, I didn't attack your opinion with logical fallacies and ridiculous shit like

No, difference is, I didn't make stupid hyperbolic claims about things I don't know about, like you did.
You can't explain how these controls and physics were ruined. Well then eat shit and shut up.

>Are you saying the original Rondo and remake Rondo play exactly the same? No? Then there's no need for technical proof

But again, I wasn't the one claiming stupid shit.

>You realize that you're getting up in arms because I said that I don't like the game?

Nah, as I said, I don't care if you like it or not, I was genuinely curious to know if you could actually explain how the controls were "ruined", I wasn't being mean or hostile initially, (read my post again and you will notice that, I just wanted to discuss some 'vania is all), I tought maybe you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about and maybe we could have a decent discussion about it. It wasn't the case though.

Again, I prefer the original Rondo, the remake was fine to me, had a couple of cool stuff (as I said earlier, the new Dracula battle, the new boss rush mode with co-op, custom soundtrack, etc), but yeah, the original Rondo is still my favorite version of it.

[Anonymous No.2257394]

>>2257383
>You can't explain how these controls and physics were ruined.

You are actually retarded, aren't you? I mean, you keep going with that logical fallacy.

The controls and physics are different from the original. Both you and I agree on this. It's an obvious fact if you've played both games.

When I say those things are ruined and are shit compared to the original, that's obviously an opinion. Because we're giving our opinions. Technical specifications literally play no role in what was being said. You are literally incapable of reading at a middle school level if you cannot understand that.

[Anonymous No.2257416]

>>2257394

>I mean, you keep going with that logical fallacy.

Do you know what a logical fallacy is? I didn't even made any claim. You, on the other hand, did.
Basically, according to you: Different controls = Ruined. That is a logical fallacy. I was merely asking you how were they ruined and if you could give example with proper tech explanation (since you were using tech words like "physics", I thought you actually knew what you were talking about, so I felt free to ask).
You apparently got mad at me asking, and took my question as an attack. It wasn't, it was just a question. My intention was to discuss, not to fight over opinions.
>When I say those things are ruined and are shit compared to the original, that's obviously an opinion.

No, if you say a game has ruined controls and physics, you are saying the game has flaws.

Had you said "I didn't like the remake, its shite" I would have just ignored you, opinions are opinions, but I actually tought you had something to say beyond that.

But I won't keep arguing semantics, or you will get angry again about how I want to correct your language. But yeah, you tried to use a kind of language (technic) that doesn't match the kind of statement you made (subjective opinion)

[Anonymous No.2257434]

>>2257416
>They ruined the physics, controls, visuals
That is the sentence you're sperging about. It is obviously an opinion. Even if you interpreted the sentence literally, it still wouldn't match up with what you're trying to assert.

You
are
dumb

[Anonymous No.2257439]

>>2257416
>Basically, according to you: Different controls = Ruined. That is a logical fallacy

that's not a logical fallacy that's an opinion about the controls compared to the original

>I was merely asking you how were they ruined and if you could give example with proper tech explanation

wat
do you think he means they literally ruined the controls? as in, they broke them in some way?

[Anonymous No.2257446]

>>2257434

>It is obviously an opinion

No, it says they (the developers) ruined the physics. This is not an opinion if you ask me, it's a technical statement.
"Ruined visuals" or "ruined control" do sound more opinion-like, since they're more open to interpretation. But if you're talking about physics, it's something specific and technical, not an opinion.

You simply wanted to sound cool by using techy words, then you can't back it up.

Use simpler words.

[Anonymous No.2257452]

The new X-Com game, not sure if you can really say for sure if it counts as a remake of X-Com Ufo Defense or not.

Final Fantasy 4 has a good remake.

There are some games I'd really like a remake of but they haven't been done yet.

[Anonymous No.2257484]

>>2257446
>This is not an opinion if you ask me, it's a technical statement.
Then you're retarded. End of story.
>Use simpler words.
I'll try to, but remember that this is an 18+ site.

Here's my attempt
>u r dummy

[Anonymous No.2257550]

>>2257484

Nice insults, but you're still wrong.

Here's my advice: try having sex, it helps with anger issues like yours. You will curse less, and get angry less when people correct you about your misuse of words and terms.

[Anonymous No.2257654]

>>2241070
Lunar was only good because of Studio Alex, anyway, which Game Arts sued out of existence. Fuck Game Arts.

[Anonymous No.2257825]

>>2249258
It's pretty telling how good the formula is that all you need to do for a new Punch-Out!! is to polish it up and give it a nice coat of paint. All the added aesthetic stuff like actual native-supplied voice acting, the over-the-top characterization via animations and graphics (punching Glass Joe so hard baguettes pop out) all contribute to the experience while the actual gameplay is largely the same.

[Anonymous No.2258230]

>>2256980

After playing Maverick Hunter X, I don't feel the need to ever play MMX again.

I can understand liking the SNES music more, Some tracks definitely lost something on the PSP remake like Spark Mandrill. But the gameplay is just as good. The power ups being changed around don't really hurt the game, just players who have committed things to memory from the SNES iteration, which really is the smallest of inconveniences(i.e. deal with it nerds). Dracula X is in the same boat for me, both games easily replace what they are based upon in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.2258245]

>>2258230
>playing platformers on a portable.

Disgusting. It is funny watching Megaman trail for a centimeter, though. Its like he's always in fast motion.

Dracula X looks like shit, though.

[Anonymous No.2259381]

>>2252984
Dark Fact is actually pretty easy once you get used to him

Especially compared to Vaguillion is still total batshit now matter how many times I fight that giant winged rat

[Anonymous No.2259384]

>>2259381
That bat boss is seriously braindead easy. It's so simple. I'll never understand how people have any trouble with that boss.

[Anonymous No.2259484]

>>2258245
I can't get behind Dracula X Chronicles' aesthetic either, nor the fact that they decided to remake a game as pure as Rondo of Blood. Conceptually, it's flawed, but objectively, I can't open my mouth until I've played it. I want to know how fun it is.

[Anonymous No.2259876]

>>2252990
I thought she was a child before I saw her other versions.

Fantastic soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.2259885]

>ctrl+f Resident Evil
>0 results

What's wrong with you people?

[Anonymous No.2259887]

>>2241057
>So what was your favorite remake of a /vr/ game?

The SNES ports of Wizardry are all better than the originals. The Dragon Quest III remake on SNES was also better than the NES version.

Outside of the RPG genre, Jackal was better on NES than it was in the arcades.

The ULTIMATE improved port though has got to be Contra on NES followed closely by Super C on NES. Quality arcade game, but an all time classic on the home consoles.

[Anonymous No.2259898]

>>2259885

try ctrl-f REmake Captain "I dont read threads"

[Anonymous No.2259946]

>>2259898
>ctrl+f REmake Captain "I dont read threads"
>1 result

[Anonymous No.2260409]

>>2252990
Her art is weird. I don't know why. It's odd.

[Anonymous No.2260420]

>>2256480
>>2256480
what makes you assume any of us thought anon was nightwolve? nothing he said implied nightwolve was in this thread. nothing.

[Razz No.2260429]

>>2259946
See
>>2243084
>>2250430

[Anonymous No.2260851]

>>2241123
Pokemon Gold & Silver were my favorite, so when HeartGold & SoulSilver came out I creamed my jeans.

>Feraligatr, (my favorite pokemon) follows me around everywhere.

Shit was so cash, why didn't they keep that for all the pokemon games?

[Anonymous No.2260892]

>>2241080
That actually looks like it got progressively better.

[Anonymous No.2261284]

>>2260420
>If i where deuce i will never wanted to be around me
>never wanted to be around me
>around me
>me
That's why I took it as a joke that the guy was pretending to be Nightwolve.

[Anonymous No.2261438]

>>2261284
>That's why I took it as a joke that the guy was pretending to be Nightwolve.
Nope. Nightwolve speaks better English than that. Also Deuce is Jeff, not Tom. Wyrd is Tom. Nightwolve never would have gotten those two confused. Anon can't even play devil's advocate right. Worst. Trolling. Ever.

[Anonymous No.2261564]

>>2248265
Well, it adds a seventh Empty Bottle (like six wasn't enough), though in doing so it makes the Circus Leades Mask, renamed to Circus Troupe Mask in the remake, actually have a use. They also changed the Temple bosses. I like how they handled Oldowa, Goht and Gyorg, though Twinmold could have been treated better in my opinion. The Song of Inverted Time now slows down time by 1/2 instead of 1/3 so getting things done is slightly more challenging. I really can't say that it contributed to the game's difficulty that much though. The absolute worst change was making swimming as Zora Link dependent on your Magic Meter -- if you're out, (don't) enjoy swimming at a snail's pace.One change that others dislike is that spinning as Deku Link now doesn't make you faster, but I don't have much of an issue with this change. The Bombers' Notebook also works differently -- instead of showing you the complete schedule of the person you're taking to, you're only given the section which you 'interrupted'.

Oh, and Owl Statues permanently save your game now.

Overall it's a fantastic remake, too bad about that swimming though.

[Anonymous No.2261584]

>>2261438
I never said it was a particularly good joke.
I'm just saying that's why I didn't take it seriously or why others shouldn't waste time taking it seriously either.

[Anonymous No.2261742]

>>2261438
>>Nightwolve speaks better English
Shit mad every 3 lines
http://www.ysutopia.net/

[Anonymous No.2261758]

>>2261584
All the true here
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ysinterviews/ysinterviews.htm

[Anonymous No.2262832]

Any of you play this?

[Anonymous No.2262836]

>>2262832
tl;dw its bad because ingame ads and art direction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkhDrngAQZ0

[Anonymous No.2262838]

>>2241152
Duke Nukem and Arnold terminator combined into one killing machine this was the result m8s

[Anonymous No.2262841]

>>2262838
There's a bit of Wesker in there too m80

[Anonymous No.2262992]

>>2262836
don't forget shitty controls.

[Anonymous No.2262997]

>>2262832

yeah
I have nothing to say

[Anonymous No.2263718]

My only complaint is that some of the music is not as good but thankfully they included GB sounds (I still hate ORAS for not doing this)

[Anonymous No.2264889]

>>2260892
#5 is the best. #6 broke what was perfect.

[Anonymous No.2265186]

Final Fantasy Adventure if only for some attention of attention was drawn to it again

[Anonymous No.2265207]

[Anonymous No.2265864]

>>2265186
Oh, speaking of that game, I found where you can buy it.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/mobile/seiken/sdff/

If only someone could rip it and emulate it.

[Anonymous No.2265872]

>>2265864
Unfortunately all we're going to get for a while is Sword of Mana, unless someone owns a phone that can play it.

[Anonymous No.2265879]

>>2265207
What platform is that one for? IBM Windows PC? Mac? Amiga? Amiga CD32?

[Anonymous No.2265884]

>>2253684
There's two versions of FR that mostly exist to fix shit.

Throwback stays truer to the original games they were based on, and contains neat things like the GB Player. Unfortunately, you still need to trade for evolution: http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1981/

FR251 is closer to fixing/enhancing the original FireRed as a Generation 3 game, and tries to make the later Gym Leaders fit better in the process while removing the handicaps. Introduces a new "stone" for trade evolutions. Also has a whole bunch of optional patches with stuff like new mechanics: http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2299/

[Anonymous No.2265898]

>>2265872
But it's on a variety of platforms, including iMode. So anyone with an iPhone should be able to play it.

[Anonymous No.2265969]

>Persona 2

>Corpse party

>Maverick Hunter X

They aren't the best, but I still loved them, especially persona 2.

[Anonymous No.2266027]

>>2260851
Because GameFreak is objectively retarded and think it's okay to REMOVE cool shit from later iterations of their franchise.

Seriously, people need to stop buying Pokemon so GF will shake the series up and stop sitting on their asses when it comes to game design and stop making retarded decisions.

[Anonymous No.2266212]

>>2265879
PC it comes with a dos version but ive only ever gotten it to work properly with 3dfx

[Anonymous No.2267820]

Diablo 1 belzebub. look it up. make it your life.

[Anonymous No.2267851]

>>2260851
Personally I hated the gimmick and I was glad they didn't include it in future games. My first Pokemon is always some weak shit I'm training. I don't want to look at that crap, I want to look at my ace that's probably the sixth slot.

And also I disliked the remake. It's a neat visual update, but gameplay was awful, especially the experience curve. Though it's still better than FRLG which locked out everything post Kanto until post-game.

[Anonymous No.2268452]

[Anonymous No.2269007]

>>2241057
I'm just going to leave this lovely 40 minutes of comparison here. Y's will always have a place in my heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMnKRA-koac

[Anonymous No.2269251]

>>2243084
WHat????? Castle of Illusion was my favourite SMS game and i HATED this game. Somehow even the music is worse. They ruined one perfect, simple and fun platformer trying to add arbitrary stuff from modern games. And the new levels are AWFUL. That ghost crap during the forest? Jesus. Who thought that was necessary.

[Anonymous No.2269260]

This probably is a really unpopular opinion round here but i really enjoyed the x-com remake and enemy within.

[Anonymous No.2269262]

>>2269260
That's not a remake. It's a whole new game altogether with some things in common with the original.

[Anonymous No.2269280]

>>2269262
I'd say it's an enhanced port. It's not just "some things", most of the aspects of UFO Defense are there, even entire missions. Sure they added a lot of shit, but if Castle of Illusion can be considered a remake, then EU can too

[Anonymous No.2269397]

>>2261564
I noticed recently that the company behind it was started by the guy behind the mana series.

I wouldn't mind an actual zelda game made by grezzo, on the style of the oracle games and MC being made by capcom.

[Anonymous No.2269687]

>>2262836
Just watched that and even though I never played the game that much (as a kid my big brother bought a PC Gamer that came with a demo disc and as an adult I played the GOG version up to the scrab temple), it made me pretty depressed to see how many things they ruined.

Pro Pinball: Timeshock! was made the same year and despite the remake being delayed as fuck (the iOS version was released last month) because of the prerendered graphics, I'm so glad they made that decision since it looks fucking beautiful.

[Anonymous No.2269762]

>>2269260
That game is a great fucking time. I just wish there was a better looking memorial wall for all my soldiers that got their faces blown off by plasma ;_;

I have a friend who was determined to only play these games on Ironman. When he got to Enemy Within he broke that disc in half within a week. Dude wasn't the brightest.

[Anonymous No.2270018]

>>2254438
That's okay English for a paragraph that full of adjectives. And the central art is neat.

[Anonymous No.2270596]

>>2265884
Thanks bro!

[Anonymous No.2270635]

>>2259384
Because the boss is RNG incarnate and heavily reliant on whether or not the bats reform.

Dark Fact is just learn the pattern and follow to win.

[Anonymous No.2270718]

>>2270635
>Because the boss is RNG incarnate and heavily reliant on whether or not the bats reform.

There is no randomness involved.

[Anonymous No.2270721]

>>2270718
How long he spends in bat-form and how far the bats deviate are both random

[Anonymous No.2271024]

>>2254394
Protip: At least play Ys 1 Chronicles on Easy. The Vampire Bat boss is nigh-unkillable and luck-based.

[Anonymous No.2271031]

>>2250402
It's definitely enjoyable. It's just too faithful to the original. I expected Wayforward to at least update the design at least slightly. The overly-long cutscenes are at least skippable.

I would give them a second chance to remake DuckTales 2.
>Shorter, more easily skippable cutscenes
>Improved controls
>More easily-flowing level design
>Hidden chests that don't disappear when you go to another screen.

[Anonymous No.2271047]

http://gematsu.com/2014/12/mages-officially-announces-yu-no-remake
So I played this very influential Visual Novel called YU-NO. It was also part adventure game. The biggest flaws in the original had to be having no idea where to go at times, a lackluster epilogue and fanservice that interferes with dramatic scenes. Otherwise, it was fantastic and I hope Mages fixes every single one of those flaws.

[Anonymous No.2271256]

>>2270721
No, it isn't. It's completely based on density of the cluster and the amount of distance traveled. Saying it's random is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.2271293]

If you don't play with PC88 music you are a gigantic faggot.

[Anonymous No.2271313]

I like the 2011 remake they did of Duke Nukem 3d. I never played the original but the game I played was so good I intend to play the 1993 game sometime soon.

[Anonymous No.2271960]

>>2271313
>remake
No it isn't. They took the original files and threw them into an outdated source port with steamworks.

It's a job similar to DotEmu.

[Anonymous No.2271971]

>>2271313
You might be retarded. That was a straight port of the original.

Put it in EDuke or something and play some mods instead.

[Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo No.2272316]

>>2271293
Some would argue that for not playing with PCE CD arrangements, lol.

[Anonymous No.2272680]

>>2272316
OH shit that reminds me that I was making a mod for the PC version with proper loop points. Unfortunately I got lazy and didn't finish it. I wonder if I should release it now and hope someone else does?

[Anonymous No.2272743]

>>2272680
Oh shit I seem to have a bit of a technical issue, the loop points magically disappeared. I'm gonna fix those up first then I'll probably upload them, but where?

[Anonymous No.2272762]

>>2254074
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It doesn't have to be a big brown dick, Mr Freud. Check your insecurities at the door, please.

[Anonymous No.2272840]

>>2272316
some would be fucking wrong then, the PCE cd music is good but its not yuzo making sweet sweet love to your earhole. Rarely are arrangements better than Yuzos synth mastery all the SoR music with real instruments is shit compared to his FM magic.

[Anonymous No.2273536]

>>2271024
Vaguillion is manageable at Normal. I said fuck it on Hard though. I can't even imagine that boss on Nightmare.

If you play it at Easy the game becomes "ram into fucking everything"

[Anonymous No.2273571]

>>2242969
The combat is more strategic and varied, the additional party members are welcome and the girls are prettier, but a lot of it's dramatic impact that made WA so memorable has been lost big time. I'm seriously complaining the lack of blood and death made the game so much worse. The music is also a mixed bag. Some of it sounds the same, some sound better, some of it sounds worse. I'm still mad they got rid of Power Fighter. I thought it would have been an excellent theme for Berserk.

[Anonymous No.2273583]

The Binding ofIsaac bitches!
N00bfags

[Anonymous No.2274810]

>>2271024
lol he's not that hard scrublord