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2218876 No.2218876 [Reply] [Original]

>Be 12
>Visiting the coast
>At the time this was like a time warp
>The coast was easily 10-15 years behind the rest of the state in terms of technology
>Computer stores selling what to me was laughably outdated shit
>People still mainly playing SNES/Genesis near the end of the N64/PS1 era
>In a used games store, see an Atari Jaguar
>I am dazzled by the aesthetic and intrigued
>Never knew this existed. 64 bit Atari? WTF
>Buy it for cheap with Tempest 2000, they had no other games
>Weather is horrible so I spend the day in the hotel room playing Tempest 2000
>BLOWN THE FUCK AWAY by how fun it is, how good the music is, etc.
>When we returned home, I was operating under the impression Jaguar was a hidden gem
>Show friends, they are also BTFA
>Except one guy who knows more about Jag than I do who just shakes his head quietly
>"No, no. I'm...glad you like it. Just don't buy any other games. Except maybe Rayman, Wolf3D and Doom."
>We had early internet but I was indifferent to it as a console kiddie who spent the rest of his time dirtbiking
>Spent several years thinking Jaguar was a special secret awesome console only I properly appreciated
>When I first discover otherwise by watching online reviews of other Jag games, part of me dies

>> No.2218908

If you got dissapointed by a console you loved because reviews, you have a fucking huge problem.

>> No.2218914

>>2218908

No, more that the reviews were accurate and 99% of the system's library is roasted dogshit.

It's like landing on the only nice part of a planet with trees, flowers, ferns, waterfalls and being like aw yis this is fucking paradise. Sending a 100 trillion dollar expedition to colonize it and finding out the rest of the planet is desert.

>> No.2218918

The other way around for me. When I was 11, I got a PS1, and later that year I got a N64 and a Saturn.

I almost never played PS1 and I thought it was another bad console by a general electronic company like the 3DO.
Have in mind this was in 1996 so a lot of the PS1 blockbusters hadn't come out yet.

I had Tekken 2, but I had Virtua Fighter 2 on the Saturn.
I had Crash, but I had platformers on the N64.
I had Ridge Racer, but I had Daytona on Saturn and Cruisin USA on N64.

I spent most of my pre-teens playing N64 and Saturn ignoring PS1 completely.
It wasn't until a friend of mine introduced me to MGS1 that I started to give attention to the console.

Anyway, I wasn't aware the PS1 was so popular and considered one of the best systems of all time.
I don't dislike it, and obviously don't think it's a blunder like the 3DO, but I still don't think it was that great. Maybe it's because I'm not that much into JRPGs.

>> No.2218921

>>2218918
>it's because I'm not that much into JRPGs
PS1 is so much more then just JRPG....

PS1 has most of the greatest games of that era. I'm surprised you still feel this way.

>> No.2218932

>>2218918
do you even Jumping Flash???

Man when we first upgraded our PS1 to a s-video cable (lol) this game was fucking gold

>> No.2218934
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>>2218932
sigh forgot pic.

>> No.2218941

>>2218921

>I'm surprised you still feel this way.

I appreciate the PS1 a lot more now than back then. But I'm not in the "best system EVER" bandwagon.

>>2218932
>>2218934

In faaaact... Jumping Flash 2 was my first ever PS1 game. That one is amazing. Much better than most other iconic PS1 platformers like Crash or Spyro IMO.

>> No.2218945

>>2218941
I picked up some (all?) of the spyros on ps3 with ps+. since I didn't play them new, it's a little harder for me to nostalgia over them, but it's also hard to see how it could be compared to the likes of a mario64

the crashs were pretty good though.

the big miss for me was that game that ushered in the dualshock era... ape escape was it? didn't get that one at all.

>> No.2218972

>>2218941
It's much better than the N64, that's for sure.

>> No.2218984

>>2218918
Finally someone with as weird a childhood console experience as me. I was a little older, 15 or 16, but started with Saturn, then Playstation, then sold the Playstation due to lack of good games (people really have no memory of how barren the library was until late '96 early '97), then N64, then another Playstation once more games started hitting. Saturn and N64 were always meat & potatoes gaming for me. Not a common set of tastes there.

>> No.2219007

>>2218972
Hardware wise? Yes. Games wise? Not at all.

>> No.2219010

>>2219007
>>2218972

PS1 sold more.
Which one is "better" is a matter of personal and subjective opinion.

Anyway, this thread shouldn't be yet another N64 vs PS1 thread.

Saturn rules.

>> No.2219205

>>2218945
>the big miss for me was that game that ushered in the dualshock era... ape escape was it? didn't get that one at all.
I suspect a lot of the appeal of that game originally was the novelty of the new controller. I remember playing it around launch and loving it.

>> No.2219210

>>2219205
I'm sure it was. I just remember the controls being really awkward (forced maybe?)

it's been so long since I played it; I just have this recollection of it feeling like it was forced on the game, similar to uncharted's grenade throwing (GOTTA USE DAT SIXAXIS) to use a more modern example

>> No.2222179

>>2219007
>implying the N64 wasn't a technical powerhouse except for the texture cache

>u wot m8 gr8 b8 i r8 it 8/8 dont h8

>> No.2222643
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>> No.2222645

>>2222643
This fucking game man

I really wanted to like it, it just wouldn't let me

>> No.2222671

>>2222645
I was like 8 when my brother rented it. Played it for three days straight and loved the shit out of it.
12 years later, I downloaded a rom... holy shit, this crap looks nothing like the game I remember. It's a fucking bugfest.

>> No.2222680

>>2219007
No buddy, you mixed it up.

The N64 was better hardware-wise, and the PS1 had more than 8 games worth playing.

>> No.2222705
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>>2222680
>>2219007
>>2222179

In this picture you can clearly see how superior the Nintendrone Master race 6497274 bits was.

>> No.2222706

>>2222705
Saturn all the way.

SEEEGAAAA

>> No.2222718

>>2222705
That's not even the Saturn version

>> No.2222729

>>2219007
other way around buddy

>> No.2222738
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2222738

While I will admit that it isn't as bad as people say, I'm pretty sure my shortage of PS1 RPGs as a kid helped me like this so much.

>> No.2222743

>>2222705
N64: Well-rounded flowing graphics
Other two: Fancy screenshots that look like shit in motion

>> No.2222747

>Consoles/games you loved out of ignorance

Isn't that the whole point of this board?

>> No.2222749

>>2222705
Wow emulator screenshots and the wrong version of Nights. 100% certain which one looks best in motion though, unlikely you'll admit it though.

>> No.2222758

>>2218876
>Atari’s “do the math” marketing was blowing up in their face. They were desperate to prove that the Jaguar was far superior to its 16-bit rivals. To the early Jaguar developers, they actually mandated that they concentrate on visuals first – huge, 3D displays with enormous sprites. Gameplay came second. Jeff Minter’s Tempest 2000, for example, was lambasted by Atari prior to it becoming a cult classic at Winter CES 94.

>At the launch party for the Jaguar in New York, the creator of the Atari Jaguar took Minter aside and told him that he felt Tempest 2000 was a poor demonstration of the Jaguar's capabilities. Though discouraged, Minter continued to work on the game until it was finished.

Atari really had it coming.

>> No.2223136

>>2222738
that game is great, anon.

>> No.2223142

>>2219210
I get how you feel about the control scheme. It's a really great game, I played it for the first time around last year, and yeah, I felt like the control scheme felt really forced. It was a really neat idea for the time, but I always find myself wishing it had a more standard layout for the controls.

>> No.2223143

>>2218918
>When I was 11, I got a PS1, and later that year I got a N64 and a Saturn.

Spoilt fucks everywhere.
God damn i was lucky to get an atari 2600 when I was 11 and it was still a generation behind.

>> No.2223172

>>2223143
>Spoilt fucks everywhere.

>tfw my parents weren't retarded teens who were well established before having children

I always love that people somehow have a superiority complex whenever someone says they had more then they did. "You're just spoiled" "Your family is rich" like you had a fucking choice in the matter.

Go be poor and bitch somewhere else.

>> No.2223182

>>2223143

At least I didn't grow up to be a shitty console warrior

>> No.2223207

>>2218876

You stumbled onto the best game on the system. It almost makes the console worth owning, it's a really great game. Try finding a 2nd good game on the jag, though.

>> No.2223634

>>2222705
Why are you comparing emulated screenshots?

Look at that goddamn N64 draw distance.
Yuji Naka a greedy little hipster shit.

>> No.2223675

>>2223207
This is why if you're picking up a Jag on eBay, buy one of the modded controllers with an analog dial instead of a d-pad. You're never gonna play anything but Tempest and the game actually included support for an analog dial controller Minter hoped was coming. The game is even more fun that way.