Treasure thread

[Anonymous No.2211841]

A thread for the best splinter group that ever made videogames.

What's your favorite Treasure game?

[Anonymous No.2211862]

>>2211841
My personal fav is Dynamite Headdy. There are so many Treasure games I still need to play like Silhouette Mirage.

[Anonymous No.2211867]

Guardian Heroes

[Anonymous No.2211869]

>>2211841
I know we're talking retro but if I had to pick a favorite it'd be Sin and Punishment: Star Successor. If we're talking oldschool, Alien Soldier.

[Anonymous No.2211871]

>>2211841
Gradius V.

[Anonymous No.2211879]

>>2211867
^^^This

All Treasure games I have played have been based. Did they ever make a bad game?

[Anonymous No.2211889]

>>2211879
Its not that bad actually.

[Anonymous No.2211891]

They are my favorite game company and I haven't even played all their best games. My favorite is Guardian Heroes then probably Mischief Makers.

[Anonymous No.2211894]

>>2211841
Alien Soldier

[Anonymous No.2211913]

Mischief Makers is my favourite Treasure game. One of the reasons I own a N64.

>Did they ever make a bad game?
Not /vr/ but Dragon Drive was so crappy that it's not even aknowledged by Treasure's official site.

[Anonymous No.2211945]

My favorite Treasure game is not /vr/ Astro Boy, but of all their /vr/ offerings I guess it's Radiant Silvergun, or maybe Rakugaki Showtime if for no other reason than its graphics.

[Anonymous No.2211951]

>>2211841
radiant silvergun and alien soldier. Both possibly the best or most impressive games on their respective consoles.

[Anonymous No.2211957]

Bangai-O.
>Dat missile circus slowdown
The most satisfying feeling.

[Anonymous No.2212015]

I think Radiant Silvergun, Guardian Heroes and Mischief Makers all had the same main artist. Didn't they? Han?

I really like his art. But it's so fucking hard to come by.

[Anonymous No.2212110]

>>2211841
Treasure are the Led Zeppelin of video games. Even their lesser stuff is leagues ahead of everyone else. But seriously?

Muthafuckin' GUNSTAR. Followed by Guardian Heroes and Alien Soilder. I also just got that McDonalds Treasure Land game and it's not bad by any stretch. Any other company it might be a hidden gem but by Treasure standards its kind meh.

[Anonymous No.2212127]

Never forget.

[Anonymous No.2212171]

What a shame they've been relegated to making Bleach games, handheld games & ports of their classics.

They need to start working on some Wii U titles.

[Anonymous No.2212174]

>>2212171
I dont think they are going to make anything for Nintendo since S&P2 sold like shit on the wii.

[Anonymous No.2212175]

This and it's a damn shame it doesn't support VGA.

[Anonymous No.2212176]

>>2212171
Treasure is a bit like wayforward, most of their better titles were licensed.

[Anonymous No.2212184]

>>2212176
>some, not most
Self fixed.

[Anonymous No.2212194]

My favorite Treasure game is probably Sin and Punishment. It was a fun railshooter. Though I would say I don't think I've ever played a Treasure game I didn't like.

[Anonymous No.2212202]

>>2211879

Wario World. Ironically also the biggest budget they ever had for a game too.

[Anonymous No.2212203]

>>2212175
Codebreaker can force it to VGA.

[Anonymous No.2212210]

They didn't really create even a single masterpiece.

[Anonymous No.2212220]

>>2212210
muh ikarooguh

[Anonymous No.2212254]

>>2212175

[Anonymous No.2212256]

>>2212210
omega factor

[Anonymous No.2212261]

>>2212210
That's good, because "Masterpiece" is a really shitty term, it baffles me that games like OoT hold that title.

[Anonymous No.2212274]

>>2211879
>>2211889
>>2212202
You are talking as if the Yu-Yu hakusho and the Bleach games don't exist.

[Anonymous No.2212275]

>>2211841
Sin and Punishment is their best, but I play Gunstar more than the rest of their games.

I do wish I could get my head around Alien Soldier. It looks fun in videos, and then I sit down to play it and get my shit handed to me.

[Anonymous No.2212290]

>>2212210

Gun star, you fag

[Anonymous No.2212293]

>>2212210
Gunstar Alien Soldier Sin and Punishment Radiant Silvergun

[Anonymous No.2212294]

>>2212275
Alien Soldier is actually pretty slow and methodical

learning to use the canceller blast and phoenix teleport helps a lot

but mainly it's about not getting hit and being able to recover when you do

[Anonymous No.2212304]

>>2211841
>we will never get to play GunBeat

[Anonymous No.2212308]

>>2212293
>Gunstar
Weeb Contra with shit level design.
>Alien Soldier
Furfag Contra with no level design.
>Sin and Punishment
Shit Star Fox clone.
>Radiant Silvergun
Shit Image Fight clone.

Try again Treasurefag.

[Anonymous No.2212312]

>>2212304
shit I forgot about that game.
It looks kind of like a more insane bomberman fantasy race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKrXQNupdOE

There is also the cancelled tiny toon game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN8nPvJMOUk

[Anonymous No.2212315]

>>2212308

>Sin and Punishment
>Starfox clone

This got a chuckle out of me.

[Anonymous No.2212317]

>>2212290
one of their worst games imo. pretty boring + easy

[Anonymous No.2212334]

>>2212274
>Yu-Yu Hakusho Genesis
>Bleach Dark Souls
>Bad

Surely, you jest?

[Anonymous No.2212348]

>>2212317
>easy
Sometimes you just want to wreck shit with a friend better than the last time you wrecked shit with a friend. It's like Guitar Hero but with more guns.

[Anonymous No.2212446]

>>2212274
or light crusader

[Anonymous No.2212449]

>>2212308
good b8, but i don't see gunstar being weeb at all

[Anonymous No.2212505]

>>2211867
Agreed. I don't even think I've seen all the endings.

[Anonymous No.2212674]

Can't pick just one, but my top 3 probably are Sin and Punishment, Alien Soldier and Mischief Makers.

Most of their games, especially their /vr/ games, are all pure gems, even the McD game, and the Yuu Yuu Hakusho game is incredible, the multiplayer is insane.

Also, the original N64 version of Bangai-O is also worth playing even if you played the DC one. I find the controls better on the N64 and it's more challenging due to the combo-based system.

I usually play using the d-pad to move and the c-buttons to shoot in all directions, but I'm also trying to get good using the left-side control scheme (move with d-pad, and shoot/aim with the 3D stick, and use Z to blast off the missiles).
Shooting with the 3D stick gives it a very arcadey feel and although the c-buttons work well as a sort of d-pad, it's a lot quicker to aim and shoot with the stick, however it's also harder, mainly because I'm not used to holding the control on the left side, even though I'm left handed.
Anyone experimented playing it this way?
I'm also trying to master S&P using the left-side scheme.

[Anonymous No.2212675]

How well do Sin & Punishment and Radiant Silvergun compare to their sequels?

[Anonymous No.2212739]

>>2212675
Radiant Silvergun had a sequel?

[Anonymous No.2212747]

>Treasure non-shmup
pretty good
>Treasure shmup
lol

[Anonymous No.2212749]

>>2212675

S&P2 is amazing and probably one of my overall favorite games of the 7th gen.
Good sequel.
Playing with the classic controller seems too hard though, the game was made to be played with the wiimote, but it works as a sort of lightgun perfectly.

[Anonymous No.2212851]

>>2212446
Is Light Crusader bad? I have it in my backlog.

[Anonymous No.2212853]

>>2212851
It's one of my favorite Genesis games. It has a very non-Treasure feeling and mood to it.

[Anonymous No.2212972]

>>2212747
>implying Gradius V isn't not only the best Gradius, but also the best horizontal shmup

[Anonymous No.2212984]

>>2212853
>It has a very non-Treasure feeling and mood to it.
I thought it was pretty treasurey. Used to be one of my favourite MD games.

[Anonymous No.2213005]

>>2211957
CHANGE-DES!!

[Anonymous No.2213027]

>>2212747

As everyone knows, the quality of a shmup is inversely proportional to it's popularity.

[Anonymous No.2213031]

>>2212851

Light Crusader is fucking great. Has some fantastic puzzles, a magic system like the weapons system from Gunstar, and a nice atmosphere. I'm also always amused by how they decided to go for a western look.

[Anonymous No.2213075]

>>2212127
Yeah, never forget that Vic Fucking Ireland completely fucked up that game when he ported it over. The Japanese version is a fast, fun Treasure styled action game that fucking rocks. The American version is a boring grind fest of attacking every enemy three times which kills every bit of momentum and joy it had.

Bangai-O wins for being my favorite Treasure game, but Gradius V isn't far behind.

[Anonymous No.2213276]

>>2213075
>Yeah, never forget that Vic Fucking Ireland completely fucked up that game when he ported it over.

Wait, what??

[Anonymous No.2213281]

>>2213075
Is that why I didn't get what the fucking point of that game was? Was I playing the wrong version?

[Anonymous No.2213289]

hajime no ippo: gba

best treasure gem, like a more advanced punch out

[Anonymous No.2213305]

>>2212110
>Treasure are the Led Zeppelin of video games
bad analogy.

[Anonymous No.2213545]

>>2213075

How was the XBLA HD version? Was it an enhanced port or did it have new levels and mechanics?

[Anonymous No.2213570]

>>2213276
Vic Ireland, chief Working Designs person and generally decent translation weaboo from before weaboo was an actual word. He and his gang translated/raped what would be a lot of jap only games that visionaries like Bernie Stolar would never touch (that was sarcasm).

C'mon son, you're posting in /vr, step up your game.

[Anonymous No.2213576]

>>2213305
It's pretty decent, actually. Gang of guys from a well respected band decide to splinter and make an ever better band that shat out solid gold for most of its life even if its later releases were somewhat lacklustre.

[Anonymous No.2213590]

>>2212972
Come on, it has no fucking Moais.

[Anonymous No.2213625]

I've been playing the crap out of Bangai-O! 64 lately.

[Anonymous No.2213627]

Dynamite Heddy or Gunstar. Guardian Heroes is pretty good too.

Sin and Punishment has to be the most over rated shit on the planet. Just as forgettable as every other n64 game

[Anonymous No.2213679]

>>2213590
At least it has life force monsters

[Anonymous No.2213714]

>>2212449
Gunstar though is Contra Lite. In Contra, it takes one hit to kill you. You have a life meter in Gunstar Heroes, and it increases after each level.

Make no mistake Gunstar Heroes is one of my favorite Genesis games, I played the shit out of it.

[Anonymous No.2213715]

>>2213627
>Sin and Punishment has to be the most over rated shit on the planet. Just as forgettable as every other n64 game

You just seem to hate on S&P because it's on the N64.

Tone down your hateboner dude, console wars from 20 years ago, etc.

[Anonymous No.2213720]

>>2213715
You guys just seem to love it because it was on the n64. I dont hate it because its a 64 game I just walk away from it unimpressed just like everything else I had played on the system. I know I will get slaughtered in here for saying this but mischief makers was a boring piece of crap. I bought the game twice to try and get into it.

[Anonymous No.2213726]

>>2213720

>You guys just seem to love it because it was on the n64

No, we like it because it's a good game.

We're too fucking old for console wars, the only ones pushing console wars in here are kids from /v/ who occasionally drop by to shitpost.

It's okay if you personally didn't like S&P or Mischief Makers. To each their own, I guess.

Calling S&P the "most overrated shit on the planet" is just ridiculous though, come on.

I'll give you it might get a little bit of extra attention because it was a Japan-only title for a while and people tend to hype up good games that were forbidden to us filthy gaijin pigs (Rondo of Blood, etc), but S&P is a really good game if you like cabal shooters.

[Anonymous No.2213730]

>>2213726
I guess I was just sick of hearing how amazing and great it was when it wasn't really better than most other rail shooters I had played. Mischief makers though I remember hating because you had to shake fucking everything and it ruined the flow so bad. I swear you had to shake certain things to find items necessary to continue. I may actually try to get into it a third time though, I was probably just a dumb kid and didn't realize the things that are necessary to shake are probably obvious.Sin and Punishment though might be one of the best games on the n64 to some people but that still isn't saying much.

[Anonymous No.2213732]

>>2213720

>Treasure thread

>"you guys like this Treasure game because it was on this console"

That's not how it works.
Ee like it because we generally like Treasure games, especially great ones like Sin and Punishment. A shame you couldn't enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.2213736]

>>2213714
>In Contra, it takes one hit to kill you. You have a life meter in Gunstar Heroes, and it increases after each level.

Traits GSH shares with probably the most popular Contra game out there.

[Anonymous No.2213742]

>>2213730

How many on-rail shooters where you can jump, roll and parry/melee attack can you name?

[Anonymous No.2213743]

>>2213736
You die in one hit in that one, too.

[Anonymous No.2213748]

>>2213732
>we
You sound like the most pretentious douchebag when you do that. Speak for yourself though I think treasure shmups belong in the garbage ikaruga and radiant silvergun while being well made enough games are just boring shit compared to the rest of the genre. No run n guns like alien soldier are not shmups, I just feel the need to say that because some people lump them together.

[Anonymous No.2213753]

>>2213743
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra:_Hard_Corps#Versions

[Anonymous No.2213754]

>>2212853
>It has a very non-Treasure feeling and mood to it.

So it has actual levels instead of just boss rushes disguised as them?

[Anonymous No.2213756]

>>2213748
There should be a shmup thread up here, I think your kind is more welcomed there.

[Anonymous No.2213760]

>>2213743
He's talking about the Japanese version though only lil girly men play that version.

[Anonymous No.2213761]

>>2213748

I said "generally".

shmup elitists like you are pretentious douchebags though.

Regarding Treasure, I also like Ikaruga and RS the least, I prefer their action games like Alien Soldier or Mischief Makers. My favorite shooter from them is Bangai-O.

[Anonymous No.2213762]

>>2213760
Real men play Probotector.

[Anonymous No.2213765]

>>2213756
Shmup General is pretty nice with generally ok people, there is a shmup troll thread that should die though.

[Anonymous No.2213767]

>>2213742
none but as far as 3d goes give me virtua cop or time crisis anyday. As for the non lightgun variety I prefer Blood Bros.

[Anonymous No.2213770]

>>2213761
I really want to try bangai-o whats the best way to play it with a legit copy? I like to buy all my games.

[Anonymous No.2213771]

>>2213748
>trying to cause trouble in a Treasure thread
is this what you look like?

maybe next time, Trouble Bruin'

[Anonymous No.2213774]

>>2213767

Totally different kind of games though, comparing S&P to Virtua Cop is as wrong as comparing it to StarFox.

It should be compared to games like Wild Guns.

[Anonymous No.2213786]

>>2213774
Thats why I mentioned blood bros. The only thing S&P and the lightgun games have in common is being in 3d, and as far as my 3d rail shooters go I like it when I don't control my guy directly apart from like hiding behind my riot shield and such.

[Anonymous No.2213787]

>>2213770

Dreamcast version is a lot cheaper than the N64 one, and generally considered "better".
As I said here >>2212674 I prefer the N64 one because of better controls and autistic stuff about the power up system (it's actually harder and more frustrating on the N64).

Go for the DC one first. If you like it a lot, then try to hunt the N64 cart, but good luck finding it for anything below 80 dollaridoos.

[Anonymous No.2213794]

>>2213590
o man they didn't do that infinite vertical looping session with the moais for the 849th time again
that totally ruined the game

[Anonymous No.2213798]

>>2213787
shieeet, well my dreamcast is out of commission currently but I think I would rather have the 64 version anyway. I will check it one day eventually.

[Anonymous No.2213805]

Guardian Heroes because it plays like a dream. And also dat intro, dat OST, dat Serena, dat everything basically.

And Ikaruga, ofc. Too bad I can't play it. It remains the most mesmerizing and beautiful game I've ever seen.


So keeping to the theme, does anyone have any inside info on characters like Golden Silver or picrelated appearing on multiple games? Or even more instances of this on Trejr games?

[Anonymous No.2213828]

>>2213736
Lives in contra are effectively the same thing as hit points in other games though, since you respawn immediately.

Also, it really rustles my jimmies when people pronounce Hard Corps as "hard corpse". ITS FUCKING HARD CORE YOU FUCKS

[Anonymous No.2213830]

>>2213828
That really rustles my jimmies too

[Anonymous No.2213932]

>>2213828
As a kid I misread Hard Corps as Hard Cops, so I basically said they are hardcore pigs, that's pretty cool!

[Anonymous No.2213939]

>>2211889
My friend forced me to play that in college. It was a pretty awesome game.

[Anonymous No.2213947]

>>2213828
except you lose your weapon
and there's no invincibility frames

[Anonymous No.2213996]

>>2213947
Actually there are. Right after you respawn your character is completely invincible. Even with respect to pitfalls. Which means, if you're good, you can do the Enemy HQ stage (if you choose the 2nd option twice), the one with the wall of fire and the pits for the cost of 1 life and no weapon loss (if you select the bomb before you die) by deliberately throwing yourself in a pit every time you respawn.

Also, the slide is invincible to anything but pits.

[Anonymous No.2213998]

>>2213996
I was probably thinking of the wrong Contra.

[Anonymous No.2214391]

>>2213281
No, the game doesn't make any more sense in the Jap version. Less if anything. It's pretty typical Treasure fare in that sense.

>>2213276
>>2213570
While yes, Vic Ireland brought over a lot of games, he also fucked with them. The very idea that he thought he could improve the gameplay in a Treasure title should tell you a lot about his crazy hubris, but let's look at Silhouette Mirage.

The world is filled with light and dark type beings, silhouettes and mirages. Your character is half one and half the other and you flip back and forth as you wish. If you attack an enemy of the same type as you currently are, you drain it's power which you can use for special attacks. Attack them with the opposite and you do damage. Also you can pick them up and hit them to knock coins out that you use to buy new weapons and shit.

The Japanese version of the game is a lot of fun and a fast paced run and gun type game. You run though the levels, draining, bashing and killing enemies, pretty much at your whim. Drain this guy, zap the next and keep going.

Vic Ireland though thought that all seemed too easy (even though the Jap version gets pretty nasty at times, especially the bosses). So what he did was make enemies take more damage to kill, use your special power up more quickly and vastly increase the cost of new weapons and upgrades. Which doesn't sound terrible on paper, but the result was that you pretty much have to attack every enemy three times. You have to drain their energy so you have enough to be able to do decent attacks, then you pretty much have to cash bash each one if you want to have enough money later on. And finally you get to kill them and can choose to weak attack over and over till it finally dies or use some special energy to kill it quickly which you'll just have to re-charge on the next one.

It completely ruined the pace of the game and turned it from this Gunstar Heroes style fast paced action game to a dull slog.

[Anonymous No.2215000]

>trying to beat Alien Soldier
>the fucking lobster boss
I've beaten that lobster a few times but it always manages to fuck me up at least once, I wish you had more than 2 lives and didn't have to start from the beginning. Gotten as far as the plant boss after that fucking pitch black segment

[Anonymous No.2215028]

>>2213794
Every moai stage had it's own gimmick though.

[Anonymous No.2215029]

>>2215028
That, and there was little to no variation in the level themes. It was always mechanical except for like two levels.

[Anonymous No.2215068]

Can anyone explain the purpose of the 2nd Timeron you encounter in Gunstar (the one in space) I spent 10 minutes dodging bullets once to nothing other than a relatively mild point bonus. Is there a time/point limit? Do you get anything if you reach it?

[Anonymous No.2215352]

>>2211841
Silhouette Mirage then Gunstar Heroes then Radiant Silvergun.

Treasure is fucking amazing

[Anonymous No.2215360]

>>2213281
>>2213276
Grab the jap Saturn version aka best version

[Anonymous No.2215456]

I've played a lot of Treasure's "good stuff" and although I acknowledge that they're good games I just can't get into them. I tried Dynamite Headdy, Alien Soldier, Guardian Heroes, Sin & Punishment, etc to no avail

Their shmups look stylish as fuck but I suck at the genre so never played them

[Anonymous No.2215529]

>>2212308
6/10, thought for a second you were serious, then chuckled.

[Anonymous No.2215641]

>>2215000
What weapons do you use?
In my experience the absolute best equipment is two homing forces and two lancer forces.
Fucking Lancer wrecks EVERYTHING but it drains it's ammo like crazy hence the reason you need two of them and upgrade them fast.
And Homing force is great because it will always make a bit of damage even if you can't locate the weak points But it's unusable against Sirene ForceDamn, treasure really has something for the word force

[Anonymous No.2215854]

FUCKING FINALLY

[Anonymous No.2216009]

Me and my buddy played through Guardian Heroes dozens and dozens of times, and wasted many afternoons in the arena. It's easily one of my favorite games of all time. And yet, it's not even my favorite Treasure game.

[Anonymous No.2216120]

>>2215068

http://www.gamefaqs.com/genesis/563327-gunstar-heroes/faqs/16625

[Anonymous No.2216237]

Every single game is gold, but despite how recent is it, sin and punishment 2 is GOAT.

I forgot how great light gun games were until I played it.

[Anonymous No.2216665]

>>2216237
>implying S&P2 is a lightgun shooter
It's a rail shmup you lugnut.

[Anonymous No.2216686]

>>2211841
Sin and Punishment 2.

But I think Bangai-O deserves more attention than it gets.

[Anonymous No.2216692]

>>2212308
It's bad bait when it's too dumb.

[Anonymous No.2216694]

>>2216237
Light-gun shooters are the ones where you can't dodge and must shoot all targets until the timer runs out, like House of the Dead. There may be gimmicks like in Time Crisis, where you have a "hide" pedal, but that's just temporary invincibility switch and not actual controlled movement.

S&P is a rail shooter. The major difference is that they require you to actively move on the screen to dodge. They are never played with actual light guns for obvious reasons. Other examples are Star Fox and Panzer Dragoon games. Most rail shooters allow the played to move on a 2D plane which scrolls in 3d, but there is a very interesting PS1 game called Omega Boost that allows you to move in a 3D sphere which itself autoscrolls in 3D. Panzer Dragoon is special in that it allows 360 look (even though you're limited to an autoscrolling 2d plane), and Star Fox allows you to control the speed of the auto scroll, which is also a rare mechanic.

A game that is often called a rail-shooter but is actually a light-gun shooter is REZ. There is an on-screen avatar, but it is not controlled by the player in order to dodge bullets or obstacles; gameplay consists only of shooting enemies preventively.

[Anonymous No.2216794]

>>2211841
Ikaruga.

Love the god damn shit out of that game and fuck all the shmup fags that say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2217064]

>>2216120
>At 100 minutes, the challenge ends. If the player can survive the entire Timeron encounter, a message is displayed about opening "The Satori Mind" (see same named section below). The player is awarded 930,410 points as a "soul bonus."

100 minutes? Fuck right off, Nami.

[Anonymous No.2217110]

>>2216694

It's used with a pointer on the screen. Both of those types of games are often called rail shooters, anyway.

[Anonymous No.2217113]

>>2217110
Light gun games are a subgenre of rail shooters, but light gun games, well, need a light gun.

[Anonymous No.2217148]

>>2217113
or mouse support

[Anonymous No.2217150]

>>2217148
Ew no

[Anonymous No.2217214]

>>2212174

I'm pretty sure I read that Treasure said it sold better than they expected. It's also getting re-released as a downloadable title for Wii U in Japan.

>>2213545

It's a new game, follows the Spirits format of just having a bunch of levels with certain challenges to choose from. Pretty fun.

>>2213805
>does anyone have any inside info on characters like Golden Silver or picrelated appearing on multiple games?

What do you mean by inside info? Golden Silver appears in both Gunstar Heroes games and Guardian Heroes, the Stone-like is in Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga. For other instances, Melon Bread or some variation of the design appears in multiple games: Gunstar Heroes, Alien Soldier, Sin and Punishment, maybe more.

[Anonymous No.2217267]

Is the 360 Bangai-O a remake of the Dreamcast or N64 game? Or is it a completely new Bangai-O?

[Anonymous No.2217284]

I think it S&P will also be sold on the Wii U in the rest of the world, I think it is an upcoming title in Europe.

[Anonymous No.2217354]

>>2217267

It's new. It's like Spirits.

[Anonymous No.2217360]

>>2212175
Wait all Dreamcast games don't support VGA? I've never looked into that I just thought you hooked it up with the appropriate cord and it worked

[Anonymous No.2217403]

>>2217360

There are a few that don't. I think like a dozen or so?

[Anonymous No.2217432]

Not all games run at 640x480. Dreamcast supports rgb scart if you have a tv/monitor for that. Scanlines look better anyway.

[Anonymous No.2217523]

>>2211841
Gunstar Heroes

[Anonymous No.2217542]

>>2215000
I thought I was the only one... Fuck the Lobster.

[Anonymous No.2217553]

>>2213805
It's the never ending Treasure Multi-verse. Most of the games take place in a series of inter connected universes.

If you read into the messy manuals, and vague in game content, it becomes more and more clear.

Gunstar Heroes started the trend, with taking place on G9, Gunstar Super Heroes very clearly draws out the whole multi-verse theory, and slowly all the games come together.

Mischief Makers, Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga are all tied together through the Stonelike.

Sin and Punishment 2 takes place across both Earth 4 and Earth 5, which are separate planets in different multi-verses. It also explains why Earth 5 in the game is full of Keepers, rather than Ruffians. As the first game takes place on a totally different Earth.

There are hints in Gunstar Super Heroes European version that their Earth may in fact be a Mimicry, possibly trying it to Sin and Punishments eventuality.

I honestly however think this is more of a common thematic of their games, than an actual thought out universe. The developers clearly have a set hand full of themes they like remixing and addressing.

[Anonymous No.2217567]

>>2217553
Oh yea, Alien Soldier deal with the multi-verse as well, I can't find my Manual scans, so I am not actually sure if I remember this correctly, But Epsilon is not from the universe that the game takes place in. And I think the manual also talks about the inner and outer space conflicts that both S&P2, and GSH also bring up.

Everyone in the game however is human to begin with, and they all were given transformations through experiments. The transformation theme is similar in that sense to both Sin and Punishment games.

I honestly don't remember how BangaiO tied into it all. I don't actually think it did.

[Anonymous No.2218842]

>>2216694

Fuck you I'ma call it a rhythm game

[Anonymous No.2218964]

>>2212851
Hey, is that guy in Light Crusader the VA of Alf?

>IT'S GONNA KILL YOU.

[Anonymous No.2219021]

>>2211841
Gotta go with Gunstar Heroes

[Anonymous No.2220057]

either Sin and Punishment or Gunstar Heroes.

I want to try Bangio

[Anonymous No.2221784]

>>2220057
What's up with the hate-boner for Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga lately? It's almost like mentioning the Beatles in /mu/, Gen 1 in /vp/ and Naruto in /a/.

[Anonymous No.2221787]

What's up with the hate-boner for Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga lately? It's almost like mentioning Gen 1 on /vp/ or Naruto on /a/.

[Anonymous No.2221815]

>>2221787
They're too popular.

Only niche titles are actually good.

[Anonymous No.2221843]

>>2221787
Ikaruga's not fun if you care about scoring. Maybe I'm just autistic though.

[Anonymous No.2221858]

Love me some Dynamite Headdy

[Anonymous No.2222552]

>>2221843
there are no shmups which are fun if you care about scoring.

[Anonymous No.2223076]

>>2215854
>tfw there's a rank S above A

[Anonymous No.2223086]

>>2223076

I don't think I ever got an S rank.

I'm just glad I got the golden gem on the 100 m. race though. That shit seemed impossible to do in under 11 seconds.

[Anonymous No.2223396]

Seeing as we have a thread full of Treasurefags, let's get down to business

What would you like to see from Treasure in the future?
>more games
What do you think they're up to?
>Nothing because they're stuck in "not making any games purgatory"
What do you think they'd like to be doing?
>making more games

What Treasure game do you think has the most interesting and original mechanic?

[Anonymous No.2223401]

>>2221858
>Love me some dynamite head
Fixed

[Anonymous No.2223447]

>>2223396
They're making Japan only 3DS animu games though, to fund their super secret shmup project.

[Anonymous No.2223481]

>>2223447
That was last year though and it sold abysmal, I wanna know more about this secret shmup

[Anonymous No.2223609]

>>2221843
>>2222552
I enjoy both Radiant silvergun and Ikaruga, as well as Dodonpachis and Gradiuses and basically every shmup because I love them 2hu too but never to get the highest scores.
I can say Treasure's shmups are really good, their graphics, music and difficulty are good and Radiant is the most story driven shmup I can remember, that's worth of mentioning right?

The most important thing is not to be an elitist while knowing how to recognize the quality, definitely popular =/= bad.

[Anonymous No.2223612]

>>2223481
We all do...

[Anonymous No.2223656]

>>2211889
I don't see how Mike Mattei could complain about this game at all. It's a McDonald's game with surprisingly good platforming and level design, and a fun soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.2223692]

>>2223656
You will probably be better off not watching his shitty videos. MINEYCRAFTA

[Anonymous No.2223989]

>>2223612
>>2223481
>>2223447
Guys, RS3 is never coming out... at least not by Treasure. The guy that designed their good shmups left and is working at M2 now (before that he was at G.Rev).

[Anonymous No.2224289]

>>2215000
>>2217542

fuck the lobster

[Anonymous No.2224312]

>>2211841
>best splinter group
What?
>>2212210
See >>2211867

[Anonymous No.2224331]

>>2212210
No, they created multiple masterpieces.
But let me guess, you grew up with a SNES and still have unhealthy ties to it? Or perhaps you didn't own a n64 despite wanting one?

[Anonymous No.2224414]

>>2224312
>What?

Treasure was former by a group of former Konami employees, I believe.

So yeah, it's a splinter group so to speak.

Just like Inti Creates is pretty much only former Capcom employees.

[Anonymous No.2224561]

>>2223447

I thought the animu was based on this, not the other way around

[Anonymous No.2226141]

>>2224561
It looks like they were both created at once. By looking at the designs you can tell this one is for the youngins' over there

[Anonymous No.2226582]

>>2223989
G.Rev worked on Gradius V as well if I recall. So why couldn't they just all work together again?

[Anonymous No.2226613]

>>2226582

Treasure is a freelance sort of company, most of its members work for other companies in the meantime. I'm sure Treasure's president said that in one interview.
I don't see it impossible for them to work on a spiritual sequel to RS/Ikaruga. I personally would want a whole new IP to expand on their crazy and nonsensical multiverse, or Mischief Makers 2

It's unfortunate the game for 3DS didn't do good. It was actually a new IP created by Capcom, I think the anime and the game got released simultaneously, or at least they were announced at the same time as the same multimedia project.
I've seen videos of the gameplay and it looks like a cool action game. The feel of the game sort of remind me of Megaman Legends...
Probably Capcom fucked up advertising this, or this really isn't catering to the new generation of japs demographics because I think that shit would have sold in the 90s.