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[Anonymous No.2185079]

Sega Saturn Thread

Recommend, Discuss, and Review the Saturn and its many games and peripherals .
All region games welcome!
Remember its RGB compatible right from the start

[Anonymous No.2185082]

>>2185079
Aww yeah Saturn time!

Honey master race
Fighters Megamix is a dream crossover
But why is it too simplified

[Anonymous No.2185093]

>>2185079

My Saturn hasn't gotten much love lately. None of the local shops seem to have any stock to speak of and I'm weird about buying things online, but I don't want to neglect one of my favorite systems.

Say, what do you guys think is the best solution for playing Japanese Saturn games in the US? Cart? Modchip? Import a JP Saturn?

[Anonymous No.2185105]

>>2185079
ive been looking for a decently priced arcade racing wheel, as well as the multitap for bomberman.
recommend: get a mod chip
discuss: im so glad i can now play dragon force 2 in english, arent you?
review: die hard arcade and saturn bomberman are the best saturn games and i'll fight anyone who disagrees (10/10)

[Anonymous No.2185108]

>>2185093
Action Replay is the best way to set you for life
Ram, Backup and region bypass for region on any saturn.
And Japanese games are cheaper too

[Anonymous No.2185115]

The Saturn is my love

I use it more than the Dreamcast and that has to do with it being a 2D powerhouse and just generally quirky games.
As a shmup lover no better choice

Heres my Saturn games and sticks, rate?

[Anonymous No.2185120]

I really really wish Grandia was translated
On the saturn

[Anonymous No.2185130]

Does anyone have this monster of a beast?
Its my final objective once im crazy enough for it
>>2185115
Holy crap thats nice

[Anonymous No.2185183]

>>2185115

>Twin-stick

I'm mad jelly

[Anonymous No.2185186]

>>2185093
You can change the region of the Saturn by taking it apart and changing some jumpers or something like that.

[Anonymous No.2185463]

>>2185079
i just bought one of these for 2 bucks, no cables or pad but it fucking works, best deal of my life

[Anonymous No.2185575]

why do people keep saying modchip when disc swapping is so easy.

[Anonymous No.2185586]

>>2185093
just get an action replay, which has all the utilities you could ever need.

I'd also recommend a modchip because fuck paying for actual saturn games (unless you hate your own money or something). Of course, you don't need a modchip if you feel like doing the disc swap trick every time. And I also heard that people designed custom firmware that you flash to the action replay which allows you to play burned games without a modchip, so I'd look into that because that'd be cool

[Anonymous No.2185587]

>>2185575
Because disc swapping becomes a gigantic chore after a while.

It's simpler to just put the disc in and play, than to put the disc in, swap it to read the security ring, swap it back to play the disc, on every single game boot.

It's why I also prefer using normal memory and 4mb carts instead of an Action Replay - that thing has a piece of shit menu.

[Anonymous No.2185595]

>>2185575
fuck hotswapping. I'm not even concerned with wearing out the motor or anything, it's just a pain in the ass. I'd gladly spend 30-40 bucks on a modchip if it means I don't have to worry about doing that whole satanic ritual every time I start a game.

[Anonymous No.2185601]

>>2185587
You guys must be super lazy. I have a binder filled with CD-Rs of mostly every saturn game, and have no problems disc swapping.

[Anonymous No.2185604]

>>2185601
Not to mention the action replay makes swapping even easier since it stops the disc.

[Anonymous No.2185609]

>>2185601
Though I have a model 1 saturn, I think the swapping method is different for model 2s.

[Anonymous No.2185610]

>>2185601
I have a binder filled with CD-Rs of mostly every saturn game and I have no problems getting a modchip and not worrying about it.

I'd do hotswapping if I had no other choice, but there are alternatives and so I don't bother. When I first hacked my wii, the only way to run burned games was to load a corrupt save on twilight princess, walk backwards, crash the game, boot up a file for the backup launcher, switch discs, and play. And I was okay with doing that every time I wanted to play a burned game. But then other methods became available and I used simpler methods instead. Is this also laziness?

[Anonymous No.2185614]

>>2185609
>Though I have a model 1 saturn, I think the swapping method is different for model 2s.

They are the same for all models, the LED just helps a bit. However you can easily time it according to the motor sound, since it has to go back and forth all the way to the disc.

>>2185604
>Not to mention the action replay makes swapping even easier since it stops the disc.

For me it was harder to swap with an Action Replay because it made the timing much tighter.

[Anonymous No.2185618]

>>2185610
No reason to diss swapping just because you're lazy.

[Anonymous No.2185619]

>>2185618
It's an extra process that you don't need to bother with if you don't want to.

[Anonymous No.2185623]

>>2185614
The action replay making it harder? That's impossible. I must really be an expert at it or something, but where exactly? The action replay makes the first swap easier, which just leads the second swap.

[Anonymous No.2185627]

Older brother still has one.
Guardian heroes is incredible. One of my favorite games of all time. Infinitely replayable because of great multiplayer and branching story paths. Saturn has lots of other gems too.

[Anonymous No.2185660]

>mfw just got a model 2 controller

time to chuck this model 1 into the closet. The original controller is still pretty good (although I hate the shoulder buttons) but the model 2 blows it out of the water. So damn comfy

[Anonymous No.2185668]

>>2185105
Do you have the north american version of Saturn bomberman?
If so, how much did it cost?
Also, is the nipponese one import friendly?

[Anonymous No.2185675]

>>2185668
>Also, is the nipponese one import friendly?

It's fucking bomberman, how would it not be import friendly?

I think the options are the only things in Japanese, but you can probably make an English spreadsheet for those from watching the English version on youtube. Or just learn to read kana, since all it uses is transliterated English.

[Anonymous No.2185679]

I tried Japanese Panzer Dragoon Saga in SSF and the FMVs were flickering a lot, also getting a horizontal lines over the those screen. Is that normal? Random fiddling with settings didn't seem to fix it.

[Anonymous No.2185684]

>>2185679
Just pony up for the game, casual.

[Anonymous No.2185693]

>>2185586

I need physical copies of games to enjoy playing. I'm just weird like that.

Dsic swapping, as mentioned in this thread, seems like a fucking chore, and I hear it's bad for the laser anyways.

[Anonymous No.2185696]

>>2185684

Not him, but holy fuck.

I was all ready to shell out $200 for a copy and then the price of it and everything else shot up into the sky like a paychotic falcon determined to fly to the moon.

Fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.2185705]

>>2185693
Yeah good luck with that.

[Anonymous No.2185706]

>>2185693
>and I hear it's bad for the laser anyways.

It's only bad cause if you apply too much force, you'll end up pushing the tray out of position; which means the laser will be out of focus and has to work extra hard to read stuff.

[Anonymous No.2185708]

Rhea soon gentleman.

[Anonymous No.2185786]

>>2185679
the FMV cutscenes in panzer dragoon 1 do that for me, and I'm playing a burned game on an original saturn. Not sure why that happens or if it would happen with a legit copy.

I might download PDS and see if the horizontal black bar flicker happens with that too.

[Anonymous No.2185787]

>>2185693
>disc swapping is bad

which is why I recommended a modchip or AR CFW

[Anonymous No.2185793]

>>2185708
Already have one!

[Anonymous No.2185795]

>disc drive replacements

That's neat and all, but would it be possible to use the cartridge slot to make a saturn everdrive instead?

[Anonymous No.2185798]

>>2185793
Can you tell me how I can contact that guy? Do I need to register on wordpress or whatever?

Also hows does it boot games? Is there a menu or something to choose the game?

Hows the compatibility?
Do you need a mod chip?

Sorry for questions but I can't seem to find out how to contact the damn guy.

[Anonymous No.2185820]

>>2185798
>Can you tell me how I can contact that guy?
>Do I need to register on wordpress or whatever?

Dude has a public blog. Just leave a comment there.

>Also hows does it boot games?

As if you had an original CD in the drive.

>Is there a menu or something to choose the game?

No, you put the games in numbered folders, and you can skip to the next one with a button on the pcb, while the machine is running (It acts as if you opened the lid, changed discs, closed the lid). Later versions may have two buttons so you can skip back as well, not just forward only.

>Hows the compatibility?

Out of hundreds of games tested, only two have problems with the latest firmware - one of them doesn't play cd audio music, the other doesn't boot.

>Do you need a mod chip?
no, and it also bypasses region protection if you want it to.

>Sorry for questions but I can't seem to find out how to contact the damn guy.

Here you go:
https://gdemu.wordpress.com/

[Anonymous No.2185831]

>>2185820
>As if you had an original CD in the drive.
>No, you put the games in numbered folders, and you can skip to the next one with a button on the pcb, while the machine is running (It acts as if you opened the lid, changed discs, closed the lid). Later versions may have two buttons so you can skip back as well, not just forward only.
So it''s a simple as opening the cd tray and hitting the button. Cool.
I assume switching to the next disc for a multi disc game works the same way?

Does it play Panzer Dragoon Saga no problem?
NiGHTS and Christmas NiGHTS?

I'll go make account so I can post and ask to get on a waiting list. I need 2.

Thanks for info.

[Anonymous No.2185859]

>>2185708
>rhea

I knew it was a good idea to buy an extra saturn with a broken disk drive.

[Anonymous No.2185970]

>>2185115
>>2185115
<Bulk Slash
You have excellent taste
Personal favorite is Keio 2

[Anonymous No.2186062]

Just got Saturn Bomberman, Bomberman Fight, and Virtual On. These are my very first imports and they are very fun. What other imports should I look for that don't require knowledge of Japanese? I might pick up Magic Carpet because of the memories I had playing that on the computer. Anyone know if it's good on Saturn?

[Anonymous No.2186070]

>>2185130
i see them on ebay now and again, anon
id love one with a usb convertor or some shit

[Anonymous No.2186072]

>>2186062
Any fighter is no jap knowlage needed
And the saturn has tons of those

Any shmup too
I recommend bulk slash if you can afford it
Xmen vs street fighter
Virtua cop and dead or alive

[Anonymous No.2186078]

>>2186072
>Any fighter is no jap knowlage needed

Good luck trying to figure out the menus in Anarchy in the Nippon.

I mean, okay, you can launch the normal arcade mode (first option). But what do the ten other menus do... and why are they all kanji?

[Anonymous No.2186079]

>>2186070
Then this is perfect for what you need
Works with pc and ps3 right away

http://www.mayflash.com/Products/N64SNESSS/PC050.html
I use it for my virtua stick on skullgirls and shmups

[Anonymous No.2186082]

>>2186078
All the fighters I have use english in the menus

[Anonymous No.2186084]

>>2186082
>All the fighters I have use english in the menus

But you don't have ALL the fighters now, do you?

[Anonymous No.2186097]

>>2186084
Why being so nitpicky
Does it kill someone to see what each menu does if its not english
Thats what I did with vatlva

[Anonymous No.2186106]

>>2185079
Did US releases use the mouse? I remember some point'n'click was remade/ported to Saturn (not Zork, I'm thinking of a US saturn release) and I wonder if it worked with the mouse.

[Anonymous No.2186107]

I bought this and a 4 MB RAM Cart. Still waiting for it to arrive because shitty brazilian customs takes forever.

Did I do good?

[Anonymous No.2186109]

I have a multi-tap and 6-controllers for Guardian Heroes..

[Anonymous No.2186115]

>>2186107
>Brazil
No game deserves that hell.

[Anonymous No.2186118]

>>2186107
If you have a jap saturn already you did good
The 4mb ram is sexy
I use that controller for Outrun, Sonic 3D and sega rally plus

[Anonymous No.2186121]

>>2186115
More like no gamer deserves this hell.

I am praying that customs won't try and tax my imports. I'd end up paying 3x the price I payed or it.

>>2186118
Of course I do. I wish I had a better camera so I could retake this picture of mine.

[Anonymous No.2186123]

>>2186109
Why capcom did not use the multitap for 4 player Dungeons and Dragons I will never know

[Anonymous No.2186126]

>>2186118
Why does saturn have heterochromia
I though it was for the lights but those are red and green

[Anonymous No.2186130]

>>2186126
Controller button colors?

[Anonymous No.2186157]

What are the saturn porn games
For reasons
No majong please

[Anonymous No.2186161]

>>2186126
Dual processors.

[Anonymous No.2186162]

>>2185820
Not buying one till someone makes a menu system ,cycling through files with a button gets old quick.but if a menu is released then all my Saturn games are going on eBay.Fuck lasers.

[Anonymous No.2186165]

>>2186162
Meh not that big a deal for me.
If you really wanted to play that many games it wouldn't be hard or that expensive to get multple SD cards.

[Anonymous No.2186168]

>>2186162
Btw here's my collection ,the top row Is cdrs ,haven't bought a game since I got a modchip ,and the prices have gone insane now anyway

[Anonymous No.2186184]

>>2186165
No kidding, I have tons of them just laying around at this point. You can manage to keep certain sets of them on a card, like all the fighters on card A, RPGs on card B, etc.

[Anonymous No.2186193]

>>2186107
I'm still disappointed that the Total Control Saturn-to-Dreamcast adapter doesn't let you use the 3D Pad as a Dreamcast pad. For some reason the joystick is emulated as a driving wheel, so no up or down movement.

I'm tired of sore thumbs from using the shitty dreamcast Dpad.

[Anonymous No.2186264]

>>2185693

I need a physical copy for games that I really like. But for "okay games" like Hyper Duel that cost $200, I fine with a backup.

Disc swapping is like dating. It's fun to date as many girls as possible at first, but eventually you'll meet someone special, and then you'll want to make her your own.

[Anonymous No.2186310]

>>2186264
I really really want to get sengoku blade but the $100+ its going for is really keeping me away
Same with metal slug but its cheaper at least

[Anonymous No.2186320]

Anybody want to trade me something for these 2 games?

[Anonymous No.2186321]

>>2186310

I know how you feel. Once the price goes over $50-60, I have difficulty forking over the cash, no matter how good the game is.

Is Sengoku really going for that much now? Last year it was going in the $60 range.

[Anonymous No.2186328]

>>2186321
Its all I can find
And anything lower just uses a stock picture and thats sketchy as fuck

[Anonymous No.2186330]

>>2186328
search using the moon runes, you're just getting the round eye sellers

[Anonymous No.2186331]

>>2186330
Is there an easy way for gaijins to do this?

[Anonymous No.2186340]

>>2186320
Like what type are you wanting
Im not even sure what those games are

[Anonymous No.2186358]

>>2186340
They are two shmups Metal Black is an awesome taito shooter kind of like gun frontier or darius. The other is shippu mahou daisakusen which is a sequel to dimahoo but it adds a racing element to the shmup formula but you can play turn that off and play it like a traditional shmup if you choose. They are just games I have duplicates of and would like to get something different. I'm interested in more shmups but am open to anything.

[Anonymous No.2186371]

I'm reading various documentation about the hardware of Saturn and it made me understand better why the dev kept whining about it.

What a glorious clusterfuck. No less than 5 programmable processors, even more coprocessor and support chips each with their own quirks, super high-spec 2D hardware support nobody cared about in europe and usa, zero support for 3d calculations,etc.

[Anonymous No.2186381]

>>2186371
But hey
It was pretty rad

[Anonymous No.2186384]

>>2186358
Well ive got Dodonpachi i could trade

[Anonymous No.2186494]

>>2186384
Sorry mate I have that one already. Here is a list of all my games actually so everyone who might want to trade knows.

[Anonymous No.2186578]

>>2186494
I dont have anything to give as you seem to have most of what I have
Nice collection though

[Anonymous No.2186929]

Who /virtuaroid/ here?

This game is fun as hell
Fei-Yen the best

[Anonymous No.2186946]

>>2186929

>Fei-Yen a best

This man knows what's up

[Anonymous No.2187001]

>>2186946
Ive got Fei-Yen
In Miku form

[Anonymous No.2187039]

>>2186929
Fei-yen is pretty much all I ever play.

[Anonymous No.2187104]

>>2187001

I was at a con and saw the top of her box, freaked out over the words VIRTUAL ON or FEI-YEN or whatever, ran over and was severely disappointed to find that it was Miku.

In retrospect, that's cool in it's own way, but at the time I was crushed.

[Anonymous No.2187126]

I believe I might be the only Virtual On player who despises Fei Yen (Mostly thanks to Force and the fact there's only ever gameplay footage of her and rarely others)

[Anonymous No.2187150]

>>2186123
Because the gameplay would slow down like shit down a very flat slope with those big sprites

[Anonymous No.2187256]

What's the best King of Fighters game between 95, 96, and 97?

[Anonymous No.2187264]

Anyone looking into getting some Saturn imports for a little cheaper check out amazon sometimes I got vampire Savior w/o cart and cart box for 14 bucks there. Its a long wait but its worth it also Japanesegamestock seems alright for saturn stuff tho there Super famicom stuff is cheap. They have a buy 3 get 1 free deal for most loose carts can anyone voucher for this site?

[Anonymous No.2187481]

>>2187256
Real Bout Special

[Anonymous No.2187485]

I really want to own a physical copy of sexy parodious. I don't sant to contribute to the shitty bubble we're in, but that game is always going to be expensive so I'm quite prepared to shell out a reasonable amount of cash. How low of a price should I aim for?

[Anonymous No.2187486]

just got ntsc Nights Into Dreams longbox for $32. very excited. I always prefer getting the US version because i think the longboxes always look cool. Anyone else agree?

[Anonymous No.2187649]

>>2187486
The vast empiness inside them made them feel lackluster
Jewel cases had snug manuals and are easy to replace
Also they had a clear cd holder with really nice art behind them like dreamcast games

[Anonymous No.2187765]

>>2187486
I prefer cases that don't shatter into dust every time a neighboorhood dog barks off in the distance.

[Anonymous No.2187771]

>>2187765
Made me kek

[Anonymous No.2187886]

>>2187486
>>2187649
>>2187765
>>2187771
All the cases broke. Both the jewel case, Saturn and Sega CD longbox, and Playstation long box games broke like crazy. The Playstation long box games were made out of a less brittle plastic, but the hinges still broke. Durable packaging didn't arrive until the PS2 era games started shipping in thick DVD cases.

[Anonymous No.2187889]

>>2187765
>>2187886

i've never had a cardboard psx longbox break on me.

just disintegrate because it's fucking cardboard

[Anonymous No.2187890]

>>2187886
After reading further about the Playstation 1 games, apparently some of the early games like Rayman and Battle Arena Toshinden shipped in Saturn-style cases as well.

[Anonymous No.2187907]

So,uh, I guess I started a Saturn RPG Collection on a impulse.
I moved to a new place recently and there's this store with a bunch of retro games, got myself a Saturn, 2 controllers, Shining Force III, Virtual Hydlide and Story of Thor 2.
Might as well go all the way and order some games online. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.2187919]

>>2186929
>>2186946
>>2187001

>all these Fei-Yen players

What, no love for Viper II?
that homing weapon he had did stupid damage all the time, doubly so if it was his forward-dash one (which tended to actually hit people too)

[Anonymous No.2187934]

>>2187907
panzer dragoon saga is the number 1 rpg for me.dark saviour is good as well,can't vouch for other RPGs but theres a few about.

[Anonymous No.2187952]

>>2187765
>I prefer cases that don't shatter into dust every time a neighboorhood dog barks off in the distance.

This, and the Japanese copy of Nights costs what, 10$ plus shipping?

[Anonymous No.2187961]

>>2187486
I like them. I think they look interesting. Although that may just be because i've never seen them before over here. And they're more durable than PAL Dreamcast boxes. You could stare at one of those and have it break.

[Anonymous No.2187981]

>>2187907
>Story of Thor 2

Are you in Europe? You might want to get an Action Replay so you can play games from other regions.

Also
>Dragon Force
>Blazing Heroes
>Panzer Dragoon Saga
>Shining the Holy Ark
>Albert Odyssey
>Wizardry - Llylgamyn Saga (JP with English option)

[Anonymous No.2187984]

I have never broke any of the PS1 or Saturn cases. I don't know what people's problem is.

[Anonymous No.2188054]

>>2187919
>>2187919
You wanna know whats bullshit OP?

That faggot Dorkas in Arcade mode
Holy shit he takes out all your life in a few hits
I cant beat him in Arcade Virtual On they have where I live
In the saturn took me forever to get past

Then the final boss is also a faggot
I love VO

[Anonymous No.2188236]

>>2187919
I play Temjin, with Fei-Yen and Apharmd as alternates. I primarily play close range and do sword cancel dashes all the time because running with a giant glowing sword is cool.

[Anonymous No.2188270]

>>2187984

The things are fragile as hell. It's good that you're careful with your shit but not everyone else is so those of us who buy stuff second hand run into disc-onlys or barely-there cases all the time. I mean, lots of these were owned by kids at one point.

[Anonymous No.2188335]

>>2188270
I see the stuff broke all the time. Not a problem for the PS1 games but the rectangle Saturn game cases are tough to find.

Still don't understand how there are so many broken. Then again my brother trashed nearly everything so.
Sucks because I still need to complete a lot of CD based game collection.

[Anonymous No.2188353]

I'm about to buy a Saturn and I'm interested to hear what you guys would suggest as far as awesome games (bonus points for horror, even if they're campy). I adore my Dreamcast and my Genesis, but I've never really had a chance to play the Saturn as a kid, so I figure it's due time I gave it some love.

[Anonymous No.2188410]

>>2188353
Virtual On
Bulk Slash
Radiant Silvergun
Burning Rangers
D (this is horror)
Resident Evil
House of the Dead
Guardian Heroes
Astra Superstars
Xmen vs Street fighter
Cyberbots
Tempest 2000
Earthworm Jim 2 are all pretty great

[Anonymous No.2189145]

As someone who owns Street Fighter alpha 3 on the dreamcast
What is it that makes the saturn one superior.
Shouldnt the dreamcast be better

[Anonymous No.2189202]

Turns out you don't need a modchip to play backups on a real Saturn anymore.

http://www.theisozone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=49346

Time to burn Shining Force III and Dragon Force II. Been dying to play DF2 since it got a translation recently.

[Anonymous No.2189305]

>>2189202
>http://www.theisozone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=49346

>Note: Once you flash your action replay, you will no longer have the save feature on the cart. The creator is said to be working on a future release that will re-implement the save feature back onto the cart along with this mod.

No thanks
I have too many precious saves on my AR to just delete them
The waiting game continues

[Anonymous No.2189373]

>>2189202
>Turns out you don't need a modchip to play backups on a real Saturn anymore.

You never needed to, see disc swapping.

And you need to do disc swapping at least once to run the action replay flasher anyway...

[Anonymous No.2190230]

>>2186121
>I'd end up paying 3x the price I payed or it.

Jesus why are you even collecting for the Saturn? Most of the good shit is already too much as it is.

[Anonymous No.2190529]

>>2186331
Google Translate? Or look it up on Wikipedia and copy the japanese text they have for the original name.

[Anonymous No.2190546]

>>2187485

pls respond

[Anonymous No.2190615]

>>2189305
Just buy a $40 modchip man. Are you too scared to solder or something?

[Anonymous No.2190617]

>>2190546
>>2187485
Just buy it if you really want it. Are you really going to let a bunch of angry anons stop you from purchasing a game you want because there may be a chance the price gets higher?

[Anonymous No.2190992]

Boy does it look nice to stack them up this way

As flimsy as they are the look
Honey is the best

[Anonymous No.2191002]

>>2190992
*they look nicer from the side than Japanese cases

[Anonymous No.2191231]

>>2190992
They look like they are meant to block you from actually touching those games behind them.

[Anonymous No.2191264]

>>2191231
>anons on /vr/
>actually playing video games instead of posting pictures of their
I think you're a bit confused.

[Anonymous No.2191265]

>>2185115
jelly as fuck

[Anonymous No.2191269]

>>2186310
metal slug loading times are insane. not the best port

[Anonymous No.2191271]

>>2190617

It's not that they'd be mad, it's that I don't eant to contribute to anproblem that makes me mad as fuck, and I don't have a good reference for what pre-bubble prices are.

[Anonymous No.2191273]

>>2190992

I have that same Tyris figure

[Anonymous No.2191328]

>>2191269
>metal slug loading times are insane. not the best port

The loading times are okay on the Saturn port, not any worse than other games from the era. And definitely better than the Playstation version which stops the game mid-level for loading.

What makes the Saturn Metal Slug an awful port is the slowdown. It is constant, non-stop slowdown.

[Anonymous No.2191514]

>>2191328
Did you play it with the RAM cart?

[Anonymous No.2191516]

>>2191328
Doesnt the Ram cart stop slowdown?

Anyways Saturn has the best version of After Burner and Outrun
These never age

[Anonymous No.2191518]

>>2191328
metal slug arcade has tons of slowdown bud, I know I beat it the other night.

[Anonymous No.2191570]

>>2191516
Best console version, anyway. Best Outrun version: your pic related.

[Anonymous No.2191683]

>>2191514
>>2191516
Metal Slug doesn't even play without the RAM cart. So yes.

>>2191518
Yeah, I know it has, but the Saturn version is worse. About the only place where it runs full speed is at the beginning of the first level when there aren't any enemies on the screen. It's running at half speed for practically the entire game after that.

[Anonymous No.2192319]

>>2191683
Why was snk so afraid of using 4mb

this could have been prevented

[Anonymous No.2192536]

>>2192319
Probably cause the 4mb cart came out later.

Also it wouldn't have prevented slowdown caused by sloppy coding.

[Anonymous No.2192885]

>>2192536
Im sure if they made it with the intention of using 4mb they would have coded it better

snk made all their games too early unlike capcom

[Anonymous No.2192898]

WE ARE FIVE YEARS AWAY FROM ENTERING THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEHWHgbU5Jw

This gave me chills when I first saw it
Based sega is based and the Saturn deserves more than what we got in the states

[Anonymous No.2192905]

>>2191231
I agree that pic is really lame

>collectorfags

[Anonymous No.2192910]

>>2192905
Is this bait?
I cant tell

[Anonymous No.2192917]

>>2192885
>Im sure if they made it with the intention of using 4mb they would have coded it better

errr no that's not how it works. They still have to copy shit from external memory to main memory to video memory; and while they do that half the system is locked down. Reading lots of frames from external memory = less time to actually draw those frames. Metal Slug required lots of memory access due to shitbillions of sprites on the screen.

Games like Vampire Savior instead loaded most gfx from main memory, and put all the crap like main menu, character select, cutscene art, music, voices, in the cart. Stuff that is infrequently accessed, but when it is needed, it is needed fast.

[Anonymous No.2192919]

>>2192910
>caring more about dolls than Saturn games
u gay?

[Anonymous No.2192924]

>>2192919
what

[Anonymous No.2194637]

Why couldnt game companys in white plastic back then
Piss yellow Saturns everywhere online

[Anonymous No.2194963]

>>2194637
Back then they were white as are all the ones well taken care of.

[Anonymous No.2196297]

You know
For all the great smount of perfect port fighters and originals

The Saturn had a ton of pretty crappy ones too that had no business being bad
Namely Pretty Fighter

[Anonymous No.2197225]

What are some really good budget import games?
Of any type i dont care but I just want some more games not generally expensive that are fun

[Anonymous No.2197234]

>>2197225
Vampire Savior without box and RAM
Virtual On
VF games
Vampire Hunter
Street Fighter Zero 1 & 2
King of Fighters 96-97
Real Bout Fatal Fury ??
I recommend Amazon since theyre prices are cheaper than ebay or check out japanesegamestock they seem alright

[Anonymous No.2197254]

>>2197225
>>2197234
Darius Gaiden
Layer Section 1-2
Gokujou Parodius Da
Nights, xmas Nights
both Puyo Puyos
Dead or Alive
all the Digital Pinballs

some of these also have overseas releases, but the Japanese ones may be cheaper.

[Anonymous No.2197260]

>>2197225
Mobile Suit Gundam/Kidou Senshi Gundam is like 5 bucks and it's pretty fucking fun. It's a shooter/run n gun where enemies can come from the background and foreground and has tons of beautiful animation from the anime.

Sorry this footage is kind of shit,it's the only footage of the game I could find. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvnuIKE3bJk

All the gundam games are cheap. They are pretty obscure I guess I never see anybody mention them on here.

[Anonymous No.2197262]

>>2197254
X-men COTA and maybe MSH are cheaper last time i checked theyre were between the 15-25 dollar range maybe even xmenvssf without the ram cart too
Afterburner 2 has been going down in price now so i'd recommend that
Pocket Fighter
Super Puzzle Fighter X
Sonic Jam??

agreed if you're wanting to play the games on a budget import them

[Anonymous No.2197465]

>>2197234
Thanks
I think im getting Real Bout Special
>>2197262
Whats sonic jam like
Anything different in the import one?

[Anonymous No.2197473]

>>2197465
not really its just cheaper than the US version

[Anonymous No.2197482]

>>2197254
Layer section 1 and 2 seem to be radicly different from each with 2 using 3D polygons
I cant decide with one to get

[Anonymous No.2197486]

>>2197482
layer 1 on saturn
Ray storm aka layer 2 on PS1 its 3D or get the HD version

[Anonymous No.2197497]

>>2197486
Wow its only on xbox
Screw paying for online just spend more to get a game

[Anonymous No.2197539]

>>2197482
They are both okay. The second game has jarring slowdown on the Saturn, but has less bullshit difficulty and you can actually play it just for kicks instead of needing Touhou-level pattern memorizations.

First game has more kickass 2d graphics, but, remember to play it in TATE mode or else it will miss out quite a lot of effects (the game abused linescroll a lot, and you can't replicate all those effects in yoko mode as column scroll cannot be done on a per-pixel basis).
I dare say that it pushes some of the most impressive linescroll effects I've ever seen though. More impressive than Darius Gaiden too. Maybe only Radiant Silvergun surpasses it, and that one used multilayer "Mode7" backgrounds instead of linescroll, even doing per-pixel column scroll with that trick.

[Anonymous No.2197676]

>>2197254
I would get Dead or Alive if it had Ayane

[Anonymous No.2197764]

The Slayers games are fun if you like Slayers.
Those games are what got me into Saturn to begin with.

[Anonymous No.2197778]

>>2185079

This thread convinced me to buy a Saturn. It's the only console I've ever wanted that I never actually got. I'm excited to get it! :)

[Anonymous No.2197840]

>>2197764
Why is Popful Mail so off-model? I hope they fired whoever drew that cover.

[Anonymous No.2197854]

>>2188054
>That faggot Dorkas in Arcade mode
Every fucking time, friend. Every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.2197859]

>>2191683
Using the actual SNK 1MB ram cart lessens the slow down a lot. Using action replay cart makes more slowdown. No idea why, but thats the way it is.

[Anonymous No.2197887]

>>2197539
It only has slowdown when using the special attack. Really the game is a good example of how to do 3D properly on the Saturn.

[Anonymous No.2197917]

>>2197539
>but has less bullshit difficulty and you can actually play it just for kicks instead of needing Touhou-level pattern memorizations.

Granted, I have only played it like 10 times, I never had any real trouble with it. But I haven't beat it in 10 tries, so it isn't easy by my standards. I think it works very well to just sit down and cruse through.

Different strokes I guess.

[Anonymous No.2197952]

>>2197859
>Using the actual SNK 1MB ram cart lessens the slow down a lot. Using action replay cart makes more slowdown. No idea why, but thats the way it is.

This is false. I've owned the game with both the official 1mb card and an action replay, and the slowdown was the exact same. That is why I sold the 1mb pack-in version here on /vr/.

>>2197887
>It only has slowdown when using the special attack.

Nah, it drops the slowdown ALL the time when there is a lot of action on screen. It is very annoying, the game halves the framerate all the time.

[Anonymous No.2197975]

>>2197952
>Nah, it drops the slowdown ALL the time when there is a lot of action on screen. It is very annoying, the game halves the framerate all the time.
I own the game and this is just completely false. How about providing some evidence?

[Anonymous No.2198034]

>>2197975
Just play the game. The framerate drops all the time. One second the game is silky smooth, then it gets all choppy. I think the speed does keep up though, which makes the choppiness all the worse. You are right in that slowdown happens less often though, I think only when you use a bomb, I'd have to check the game to be sure. But it does drop the framerate very often.

Note that you will not see this on emulators since SSF runs everything without slowdown.

[Anonymous No.2198043]

>>2198034
I'm playing the game on my Saturn right now. Like I said, it only slows down when you unleash your special attack.

[Anonymous No.2198061]

>>2197975
Framerate drop, not slowdown.

One second it is silky smooth, then it suddenly gets choppy.

[Anonymous No.2198068]

Are there any kind of heat problems with the Saturn? Other issues? New owner here and just wondering. Haven't ran into any issues yet.

[Anonymous No.2198090]

>>2198061
>Framerate drop, not slowdown.
Yes, that's the same thing.

[Anonymous No.2198091]

>>2198068
The biggest "issues" with the Saturn that I usually hear repeated are:

Dead Battery
Loose Cart Slot
The cover for the battery/expansion slot compartment gets lost easily

All very minor problems.

[Anonymous No.2198104]

>>2198091
I was talking more about issues with the hardware. But I haven't really seen anything from googleing around.

[Anonymous No.2198115]

>>2198068
My saturn heats up after play sessions where the internal power supply would be.
As I have a white japan saturn
I think this is because those use 100w when US power is 120
Should I be worried

[Anonymous No.2198116]

>>2198090
>Yes, that's the same thing.

No they are not.

Slowdown means that the action of the game slows down. Everything moves at a slower pace, but still smoothly.

Framerate drop means that the game stays at the same speed, but runs at a lower framerate, making everything all choppy.

Both are techniques used when the graphics chip cannot draw things fast enough.

Layer Section 2 definitely drops the framerate and gets all choppy. I think it also slows down when you do a super attack. I'd have to check that latter - but I remember clearly that the framerate was not constant in the game.

[Anonymous No.2198126]

>>2198116
>arguing semantics

The game does not get 'all choppy'. Check some Youtube videos, or hell, just go and play the game.

[Anonymous No.2198130]

>>2198091
The cart slot doesn't get loose (at least it never did for me), but it can get dirty very easily, which is what causes all the bad cart problems. All the carts gather a lot of dirt, which get in the cart slot. Cleaning the cart contacts, then using them to scrub the cart connector itself should help a lot against this.

Other common problems include the laser needing recalibration (complicated). Most of the time when your Saturn can't read discs, or doesn't spin up the disc, it is because the laser can't see shit anymore and needs recalibration. Buying a new laser will not help a lot since you need to calibrate that one as well, it's not just a matter of popping in a new part.

Also, some power supplies have unreliable components. The TOP PWM chips in particular are known to be awful, but they can be replaced with modern equivalents which are more reliable.

>>2198115
>Should I be worried

No. Power supplies can take that much fluctuation in voltage.

[Anonymous No.2198135]

>>2198126
>arguing semantics

They are not semantics. One of them has the actual gameplay slowing down (ie. all movement on the screen is slower), the other has everything still running at the same speed but with the game skipping every other frame. It's a completely different thing.

[Anonymous No.2198139]

>>2198130
What is the TOP PWM? Can you show a picture? Link to replacements? Is that a global thing as in both PAL and NTSC systems have it?

[Anonymous No.2198147]

>>2198139
The TOP202YAI pwm chip on some 220v PSUs are known to cause problems, including overheating. The simplest way to fix the issue is either to add an extra cap to stabilize the voltage, or to replace the chip with a more modern part (TOP223YN).

Some 110v power supplies use a TOP102YAI but I have not gotten any NTSC units which had a bad power supply yet, so I can't comment on how reliable they are or how they can be fixed.

[Anonymous No.2198150]

>>2198135
Framerate drop and slowdown are synonyms.

If you want to talk about frame skipping or 'dropping frames' then say so.

[Anonymous No.2198158]

>>2198150
okay, now you are the one arguing semantics.

[Anonymous No.2198160]

>>2198147
So TOP102YAI is good?
NTSC U system here.

[Anonymous No.2198167]

>>2198158
I'm merely presenting you with the correct nomenclature so you don't initiate another pointless low-quality debate in future.

[Anonymous No.2198181]

>>2198167
Okay.

Layer Section 2 still sucks tho.

[Anonymous No.2198191]

>>2198181
I like the music

[Anonymous No.2198236]

>>2197764
What are slayer games
Rpg?

[Anonymous No.2198482]

Hows Sengoku Blade?
Havent heard it mentioned and about to drop $60 for it
That art be nice and horizontal shooters are my thing

[Anonymous No.2198497]

>>2198482
I have a couple of those little dudes. They don't need to breathe fire to be formidable adversaries. They will pluck your eyes from your skull and eat them like grapes. Lemurs don't fuck around, man.

[Anonymous No.2198501]

>>2198482
Its quite something

[Anonymous No.2198752]

Has anyone play the Galaxy Fraulein Yuna games on Saturn?

[Anonymous No.2198779]

>>2198752
I watched some of the ova for Yuna. Very cute girl who was a hudsonsoft mascot of sorts. The gameplay videos I have seen for the games look like they are fmv/anime cutscene text rpg games. You can probably only play them if you read japanese.

[Anonymous No.2198789]

>>2198779
Cool fact
Yuna is playable in Saturn Bomberman as a secret

Speaking of which
This is forever a GOAT game for the saturn

[Anonymous No.2198798]

>>2198789
yup Saturn Bomberman is great. The Saturn also got another great bomberman title.

Bomberman fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVlYtRSZcIs

[Anonymous No.2198813]

Is the arcade racer wheel worth picking up for Daytona?

[Anonymous No.2198835]

>>2198813
More than just Daytona
Sega rally
Sega touring car
Outrun

I personally use the 3D analog pad for all these but the wheel is nice

[Anonymous No.2198836]

>>2198835
Is it smooth or is it like you move the wheel for awhile and it has set points to determine how hard to turn? Jumpy I guess I'm trying to say.

[Anonymous No.2198861]

>>2198836
It's an analog wheel, so yeah it is smooth.

[Anonymous No.2198880]

>>2198861
Cool I may give it a try.

[Anonymous No.2199240]

>>2198798
Nice try. I bought it because it looked strange and interesting. To be honest, it isn't bad, but it is far from great. It is a bit of a chaotic mess if anything once it gets going..

[Anonymous No.2199247]

>>2199240
I have never actually played it. I can see how the isometric view might fuck things up though it looks fun. The voices sound a little annoying also.

[Anonymous No.2199254]

>>2199247
Most of the chaos and disorientation comes from the fires bouncing. It can be pretty hard to judge if a bomb is actually going to hit anything. This lack of being able to read makes you always feel uneasy, and what you end up doing is just running around without direction because at least if you move, you might survive.

Like it was fun to play, just for the sake of experiencing it, but it isn't something you would invite your friends over to play all night. It only costs like 5-10USD.

[Anonymous No.2199492]

>>2197952
I own both carts and there is a difference pal. Just pay attention to your screen chum. The slow down is still there with the 1mb, but it is less than the AR

[Anonymous No.2199559]

>>2199492
>I own both carts and there is a difference pal. Just pay attention to your screen chum.

This is an urban legend. I've owned the 1mb cart and the game run slow as molasses even with that, That's the reason why I decided to sell that version (I had two copies).

It only runs without slowdown if you play it on a Saturn emulator. On the real console it has shitload of slowdown regardless of RAM cart.

Well, it might have even worse slowdown with the 4mb cart, but honestly it is already nearly unplayable with the 1mb cart. Very poor port.

[Anonymous No.2199610]

Are any of the early Saturn RPGs good? Like, Shining Wisdom or Blazing Heroes? I'd like to pick up Magic Knight Rayearth but I'll probably just settle for downloading the iso.

[Anonymous No.2199620]

>>2199559
Whatever ya say pal.

[Anonymous No.2199664]

>>2199610
How early are you talking about? Also most of the interesting Saturn RPGs are Japan only (Grandia, the Lunar remakes, Devil Summoner 1 and 2, Linda Cube, Princess Crown, Madou Monogatari, Wakupuyo, and the list goes on and fucking on).

[Anonymous No.2199695]

>>2185708
Is it going to be hard to install?

[Anonymous No.2199706]

>>2199664

All the ones I listed were from 1995, but since you had nothing to say about any of them I'm assuming they're not very good.

[Anonymous No.2199814]

>>2199620
Post a youtube video with both versions running side to side then, buddy.

[Anonymous No.2199815]

>>2199706
Well Rayearth is gold, at least.

[Anonymous No.2200294]

Sonic Jam
Sonic 3D
Sonic R

Which one do I get
I can only get 1

[Anonymous No.2200298]

>>2200294
Panzer Dragoon Zwei. You can thank me later.

[Anonymous No.2200338]

>>2200298
Have it
Like the most common game besides nights and virtua fighter

[Anonymous No.2200408]

>>2200294
Jam.

[Anonymous No.2200415]

>>2200294
Jam is actually an amazing port. The games aren't emulated and the options for changing difficulty, time, ect is pretty neat. That said, they are still the same old games. The Sonic World option is really cute, but only about 30-60 minutes worth of past time with the 10 or so missions.

It is a really cool insight into how 3D Sonic could have turned out, and to be honest, I like it a lot better than how Adventure moves and feels.

Sonic 3D on the other hand isn't really that interesting. It is still the same 3D Blast everyone is kinda indifferent about from Telltales. But the Special Stages could make it worth while alone. Sonic Team made new special stages for it. They build on the Sonic World feature from Jam, and again are a pretty amazing insight into what 3D Sonic could have been like, even if they are classic halfpipe style levels.
http://youtu.be/oYbFVZTdxn0?t=42m11s

Sonic R you can honestly pass on. It is slippery garbage.

[Anonymous No.2200521]

>>2200415
3D Blast is actually my favorite sonic game
Best music too

[Anonymous No.2200570]

>The prices for Cotton Boomerang, Stellar Assault and Battle Garegga

Whyyyyy

[Anonymous No.2200592]

>>2197260
go try this game you fucking niggers, sorry it's not entry level shit like all your suggestions. Just trying to throw something unique out there.

[Anonymous No.2200595]

>>2200521
I could greentext this post, to show everything wrong with it, but I'm afraid my GPU would run out of color.

[Anonymous No.2200604]

>>2200521
Be that as it may, the majority consensus is that it is rather so-so. I personally have no feelings towards it either way. But if it is your favourite, the Saturn version might be a must have. It has all new and different music though.

[Anonymous No.2200610]

>>2190230
>Jesus why are you even collecting for the Saturn?

Good question. I just like the system.

There's a bunch of tricks and recommendations that help avoiding being caught. So far I've escaped everything. Let's hope it continues on like this.

[Anonymous No.2200615]

>>2200521
>Best music too

Well duh, since you are playing the Megadrive version.

The Saturn version had fucked up music.

[Anonymous No.2200623]

>>2192898
I never understood why the dude starts dancing around the tv. Fucking 90s are so fucking undecipherable.

[Anonymous No.2200641]

Has anyone here ever played the LoGH games on the Saturn? Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.2200669]

>>2200592
It's shit you just walk around and shoot stuff ,very generic

[Anonymous No.2200673]

>>2200415
>Sonic R you can honestly pass on. It is slippery garbage

Sonic R is one of my favourite Saturn games and out of those other 2 games (both ports) it's clearly the best game to pick

[Anonymous No.2200690]

>>2200669
Oh right you only ever played the first level and have never actually made it to any of the hard stages. I know your type emulator kid.

[Anonymous No.2200698]

>>2200673
Sonic R has got to be the game with the worst controls ever made.

[Anonymous No.2200726]

>>2200595
Wao dont be a rude dude

[Anonymous No.2200803]

>>2200698
The controls are fine as long as you remember that you need to fucking use the breaks in the corners (the two upper shift buttons).

[Anonymous No.2200941]

>>2200673
I am starting to think the quality this Saturn thread is rather questionable, considering the growing amount of love shown for rather so-so games.

You can like them all you want. Hell I like a lot of really broken games myself. It just fascinates me that people can have favourites such as Sonic R or 3D Blast.

But maybe it fascinates others that my favourite Saturn game is Bulk Slash, I dunno.

[Anonymous No.2200960]

>>2200941
Bulk Slash is one of my favorite Saturn games, and probably one of the top non-RPG/Sim games on the system period. I don't know if I've ever seen anybody speak ill of it.

Of course I have crazy taste too, it pretty much all skews to "must know Japanese to play" games and I think part of why I like them is because of how coming from the English-speaking world they all feel like "hidden gems" (it also doesn't hurt that 90's 2D RPGs are my favorite type of game regardless of system).

[Anonymous No.2200970]

>>2200941
But bulk slash is my favorite saturn game
Sure i have the "best hits" version but damm its alot of momey for it normally, got all the M.I.S.S. navigators to level 3
Its ok to like things
That being said 3D blast still is my favorite sonic game
But what you want to hear is the sidescrollers right?
For that its Sonic CD
PSN

[Anonymous No.2201012]

>>2200941
Bulk Slash is certainly a game worth saying it's the best on the Saturn.

I am an EoP and I still find it awesome.

[Anonymous No.2201028]

>>2201012
>EoP

What's that?

Also, long time Saturn owner here, mostly played western-released games and some japanese ones. I didn't knew about Bulk Slash until a couple months ago because a lot of people on /vr/ started mentioning it, I'll need to try it out (thank god for PseudoSaturn and the AR4 cart, since I assume the price for that game must be bonkers).

My favorite Saturn game is PDII Zwei.

[Anonymous No.2201039]

>>2201028
EoP is the /jp/ and /a/ term for being an English only Peasant.

[Anonymous No.2201041]

>>2201039

thanks, I don't visit those boards.

[Anonymous No.2201043]

>>2200960
>>2200970
>>2201012


I kinda expected positive responses. But I wasn't quite ready for the wave of warmth of it all.

You are all wonderful people, and I am glad we share wonderful taste.

[Anonymous No.2201101]

>>2201043
That girl was the first I maxed out
And one of the few that didnt peirce ears everytime you get hit
Is a princess too not bad
OH MY GOOOOD engrish

[Anonymous No.2201109]

>>2201043
If we're being too nice for you, we could always argue about which girl is the best.

It's the idol, btw.

[Anonymous No.2201117]

>>2201028
In contrast to all the expensive Shmups, it is actually kinda affordable... And English Burning Rangers... fuck that price fluctuation between the JP and NA versions.

>>2201101
It never leaves my mind. It is the strangest mix of sensual and traumatising.

>>2201109
You didn't know? All girls are the best girls.

[Anonymous No.2201142]

>>2201117
Oddly enough
Even the ugly loli final girl
As she has the best bonus of unlimited ammo

[Anonymous No.2201147]

>>2201117

I just checked eBay and it's insanely overpriced.
On Yahoo Auctions is a little bit cheaper, but then again I'd also need to pay shopping service fees and expensive shipping.

I think PseudoSaturn and a nice CD-R will do for now.

[Anonymous No.2201160]

>>2201147
Bulk slash is just short of insane prices that games like cotton boomerang, tryrush deppy (goodluck finding even one), battle garegga and wipeout XL have

[Anonymous No.2201167]

>>2201160

I haven't checked Saturn prices since 2010 or so. Damn it's gotten bad even in Japan.

[Anonymous No.2201178]

>>2201160
and also Super Tempo and Taromaru.

even Keio Flying Squadron 2.

~ one day I'll have them all...

[Anonymous No.2201183]

>>2201160
tryrush derpy isn't even that good anyway don't worry.

[Anonymous No.2201184]

>>2201160
>>2201147
I got mine a few months ago, for maybe 40 USD, and in the scope of things I thought that was fine when looking at the insane prices of Battle Garegga and DondonPachi, ect. First edition. But the manual was kinda fucked. Intact, but the front plastic film is all sticky.

[Anonymous No.2201189]

>>2201184
dodonpachi is only like 60 bucks it's not that bad

[Anonymous No.2201195]

>>2201189
Huh? You are right. Maybe it is just because I am poor now because of my Saturn investments it seemed a little steeper to me the other week when I checked.

[Anonymous No.2201215]

>>2201183
But it has car boobs

[Anonymous No.2201296]

>no Wachenröder
>no Daytona

Disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbZk-Ar6a6w

[Anonymous No.2201324]

>>2201296
Daytona USA is kind of a given you know
Like Nights and Virtua Fighter they are just always known for the saturn
Especially since this was the best the US got

[Anonymous No.2201338]

>>2201296
I just make sure to recommend Japans Daytona Circuit Edition over US's CCE as it has better draw distance and extra features

[Anonymous No.2201883]

So why is the Saturn expensive compared to the dreamcast?
Especially in the US

[Anonymous No.2201929]

>>2197260
There is also F and F Final and that Nadesico game for mechs.

[Anonymous No.2202012]

>>2201883
It was far less popular, which means it's harder to find and that there are more people looking to "rediscover" it now.

[Anonymous No.2202035]

>>2185082
>Fighters Megamix
>Honey master race
>not DAYTONA CAR

[Anonymous No.2202147]

>>2202035
>Best Megamixer
>Not superior Rent A Hero

Hes like captain commando

[Anonymous No.2202369]

>>2185120
But we got Grandia on the PS and it was super shitty. All the Saturn version was, was a slightly lower res copy with all the same boring ass dungeons.

Seriously, a game all about the excitement of exploring having terrible, linear environments where there's basically zero exploration to do. What the fuck were they thinking?

After Lunar, that game was such an incredible let down.

[Anonymous No.2202381]

>>2185079
>Thread about the Saturn
>258 replies
>No mention of Legend of Oasis
What the fuck? Really?

[Anonymous No.2202445]

>>2202381
This is the first time ive heard of it, what is it

[Anonymous No.2202460]

>>2202445
Beyond Oasis (Genesis) and it's sequel Legend of Oasis on Saturn are straight up two of the best action RPGs ever. Think of a mix between Secret of Mana with it's various elemental spirits and Zelda style puzzles. So you go through dungeons and the like, fighting monsters and using your various spirits to light torches, melt blocks of ice in your way etc etc.

They're both really, really great games. Legend of Oasis especially is I think one of the best looking games ever. I love the style and the art so much.

[Anonymous No.2202946]

>>2202369
http://youtu.be/9HMyR5lZrl4?t=5m2s

I've also heard the PSX translation slated but i've not compared them.

I just want to play the game without the horrible English voices, they really put me off.

The saddest thing is the Japanese bosses thought this game wouldn't sell well in the West. My god they were buffoons.

[Anonymous No.2202957]

>>2202946
there are VERY few voiced scenes
they are mostly in the beginning and at the end, most of the mid game isn't acted even in important scenes
I'm not defending the actors or anything but I still think you should give it a chance

[Anonymous No.2202960]

>>2202460
Totally agree. Beyond Oasis is my favorite game, I've played it through every couple of years since '96. I think it's the combat that makes it so enjoyable. Just check out a video on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.2202972]

>>2202957
I did give it a chance. You hear them in every single battle. I made it to that place with the mine carts.

[Anonymous No.2203000]

>>2202460
These games are indeed fantastic. In Europe we know them as Story of Thor for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2203140]

>>2198236
SRPGs. They're pretty heavy on the fanservice for those that follow Slayers because each character's abilities follow canon, so Lina is overpowered with her Ragna/Laguna Blade and Dragon Slave.

[Anonymous No.2203924]

So do you think we could et a working Sonic X-Treme playable on the Saturn itself
Now that its been leaked apparently

I actually like its style of gameplay

[Anonymous No.2203932]

>>2203924

It's being worked on, apparently.

[Anonymous No.2203991]

>>2199610
Shining Wisdom is OK if you are in the mood for a zeldalike top-down action adventure game. I wouldn't recommend it if you are looking for an RPG, though. I played through it once and enjoyed myself for the most part but ended up selling my copy off. The dash mechanic is annoying, I don't much care for the prerendered sprites and portraits, and Working Designs changed the proper nouns so the connections to other Shining series games get lost in translation.
Blazing Heroes is kind of bland but has its charm. Play it if you've already played all 3 Shining Force 3 scenarios and Dragon Force and you want more SRPGs to play on the Saturn.
MKR is great, but also more like that Zelda genre (4 swords adventure is similar) than an RPG. It is one of the prettiest games on the system. It's really girly, though, so if that bothers you be forewarned.
As far as traditional JRPGs in English I really liked Shining the Holy Ark and Albert Odyssey (although the ending is really unsatisfying). I really wish more Saturn RPGs got translated, but who doesn't.

[Anonymous No.2204028]

>>2203991
The EU version was completely re-translated on Sega's order.

[Anonymous No.2204637]

>>2200641
I had no idea there were any. I looked into it and it appears to be mostly text-based, so you'd need to be good with your moon runes to play, which I'm not so I decided not to spend a CD-R to find out. but the soundtrack is apparently nice classical music like the show.

[Anonymous No.2204773]

Just picked up this, absolute trash. Cheap addition to the collection though.

[Anonymous No.2204880]

>>2204773
>Just picked up this, absolute trash.

Don't bad mouth Toshinden URA. It's a bad ass audio disc that also has a game as a bonus.

[Anonymous No.2205001]

>>2204880

My bad, I will now enjoy the "game" as intended.

[Anonymous No.2205136]

>>2204880
lol, guess I wasn't the only one.

Damn, gotta to youtube some soundtrack music now...

[Anonymous No.2205183]

>>2204880
Same could be said about Sonic R ha

i do like the game dont worry,
Metal Sonic for life

[Anonymous No.2205191]

>>2204773
so it's just a port of toshinden 2 with remixed music?

[Anonymous No.2205209]

>>2205191

It's really different actually, it's missing characters from the PS1 version, but features new exclusive characters. Got a new plot, new CG, new arenas and the gameplay is different somehow, but I haven't played BAT2 to compare.

[Anonymous No.2205564]

>>2205209
The core gameplay is about the same, the game just looks a bit different.