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despite supposedly being about speed, they do their absolute damnedest to slow you down whenever possible with an insane amount of waiting around for platforms and shit. the exception is the designated speed sections that mostly take control away from you for a few seconds of dumb rollercoaster garbage. the camera is zoomed in to the point where you have zero chance of seeing obstacles or enemies coming, and the heavy momentum based movement is excruciatingly sluggish. playing super meat boy in particular makes it apparent how shit classic sonic is, since it nails that smooth and fast paced feeling by doing the complete opposite of what sonic does. rings are also the most retarded way of doing health in anything ever made, but the game needs it because its a patchwork fix to make up for the fact that you have no clue if you're about to run into something.

sonic was popular because it looked amazing, has fantastic music, and had great marketing. not because it played well.

>> No.2180125

Cool, thanks for sharing.

>> No.2180126 [DELETED] 

I'm you saw that Previously Recorded episode on redlettermedia, OP?

btw you're right

>> No.2180128

I'm assuming you saw that Previously Recorded episode on redlettermedia, OP?

[/spoiler]BTW you're right[/spoiler]

>> No.2180130

>>2180123
>It's bad because I'm not good at it!

>> No.2180132

>>2180126
>>2180128
Did you seriously just delete your post just so you could fuck it up?

>> No.2180139

Here's your reply OP

>> No.2180146

GOD tier

Chemical Plant Zone, Casino Night Zone

GREAT tier

Emerald Hill Zone, Aquatic Roman Zone, Mystic Cave Zone, Flying Fortress Zone

GOOD tier

Top Hill Zone, Oil Ocean Zone

Bullshit Tier

Metropolis Zone

I am riding turtles on the sky tier

Sky Chase

Final Destination tier

Star egg

>> No.2180148

>>2180123
Egoraptor is that you?

>> No.2180151

Its still amazingly fun to watch when someone speed runs the game.

>> No.2180154

>>2180123
the game is about going slow, until the game wants you to go fast for the brief second it's crucial to win. and then bossfights are a jumping game.

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>>2180128
>>2180132

>> No.2180161

>>2180154
oh ya and i forgot that's just on the first playthrough...


if you didn't memorize your shit to go fast in each level beforehand it's your own fault for going slow and really you're only criticizing your own playspeed.

>> No.2180168

I thought the whole point of Sonic was that you could go as slow or as fast as you wanted?

>> No.2180171

I agree. Sonic was always second rate till it became third rate.

>> No.2180179

>>2180160
Fine, you caught me. Kudos, I'm sure you're so proud. Now back to the issue at hand. OP is parroting every point of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYDsz1NFBJw

>> No.2180184

>>2180179

We need to find a way to spot and ban teenagers who come to this board to parrot stuff they see from youtubers.

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>>2180179
>Fine, you caught me. Kudos, I'm sure you're so proud.

>> No.2180194

First, I hate how people shit on Sonic games because "you have to memorize" (which you don't) but think that memorization is a legitimate facet of shmups. Secondly, I easily beat these games as a child, so if you can't do it as an adult then you need to git gud.

>> No.2180197

>>2180184
we need to run a train on your mum's puss

>> No.2180201

Damn /v/, go away please.

>> No.2180210

>>2180197
You have school tomorrow little bro, go to bed

>> No.2180214

>>2180201
You people that spout /v/ in every thread are the most annoying kind on this board. Shut your whiny little trap, you mouthbreather.

What a deed to redirect to reddit, /v/ and other places. It surely will make people go away and raise the board quality.

>> No.2180226

>>2180194
Pretty much. Sonic is piss easy, and it takes less memorization than Mega Man.

>> No.2180227

>>2180226
Going for the true ending is a good challenge tough.

>> No.2180229

>>2180214
>A fat faggot from RLM who sucks at games made some dumb comments about Sonic
>I'm going to parrot them

You got called out for being the /v/irgin faggot you are.

>> No.2180231

Seems to me that /v/ is to /vr/ as /b/ was to /x/.

>> No.2180248

>>2180130
>>2180194
Nobody's complaining about them being hard, smart guys

>> No.2180253

>>2180229
How ironic coming from the guy who parrots the fat neckbeards from the place he redirects to.

I'm not OP and your kind is still the most useless and laziest shitposter group in this place.

>> No.2180256

>>2180248
>the camera is zoomed in to the point where you have zero chance of seeing obstacles or enemies coming
>you have no clue if you're about to run into something.

Whoops

>> No.2180257

>>2180253
But he's right, youtuber posting is something from /v/, and the majority of the youtuber public are kids and teenagers. I know what you mean about people redirecting being as shitty as the trolls, but this time it's pretty obvious and spot on

>> No.2180259

>>2180227
i'd rather do a boss rush than some rotating minigame to acquire some emerald but whatever, it's repetition anyway you look at it from any game. Even mario was the same shit over and over.

the only thing overrated is the faggot fatty that wears that shit hat in that video.

>not a game developer
>not anything at all but fat

we live in an age where anyone with a parent can create a youtube video, and you idiots take what they say for anything other than absolute garbage?

>> No.2180260

>>2180256
that's not difficulty, that's just bad design

and yes, there's a difference

>> No.2180264

>>2180260
So by that logic all Mega Man games have bad design because enemies often spawn offscreen during jumps and knock you into pits.

>> No.2180273

>>2180123

I absolutely agree. It takes far too long to stop or turn or do any kind of momentum change really.

>> No.2180275

>>2180123
Protip: you can spin while running by pressing down. Not only does it make you immune to most enemies, it increases your momentum and makes you go faster.
Git gud.

>> No.2180284

>>2180257
He can point out how OP is a faggot all he wants. Redirection is just a bad and useless attitude that makes you look like a moron. I mean, you guys know /v/ and you show the exact same attitude. Why would you act like /v/ if you don't want this place to become /v/?

Also bringing any youtube videos into this discussion, what were you guys thinking? Deconstruct the opinion at hand.

You will find any opinion on youtube. Shall we post the faggiest youtubers we can find if we want to discredit an opinion? No, because this is only another shallow way of shitposting.

>> No.2180287

>>2180284
>Shall we post the faggiest youtubers
debate mode intensifies....

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>> No.2180320

>>2180284
Fuck off. If OP actually wanted a decent discussion about Sonic 2 he wouldn't put "It's shit" in the beginning of the thread. He is just a low quality bait that doesn't belong here.

>> No.2180330

>>2180123
I really couldn't give a shit about Sonic nowadays but as a kid I was BAFFLED by that sole air bubble monitor powerup in Sonic 2.

>why.jpg

>> No.2180332

>>2180320
Protip: My posts were never about the OP. That said, I understand that most people perfectly comprehended my points.

You're just a "special" fellow.

>> No.2180337

>>2180330
I don't remember that, where is it?

>> No.2180357

>>2180337
It doesn't exist.

>> No.2180364

I don't like sonic 2 I prefer sonic 1 but OP is still a faggot.

>> No.2180373

Ironically the Sonic Adventure games are actually a lot faster thanks to some of the new moves.

>light speed dash
>homing attack

You keep much more momentum in those games.

>> No.2180384

>>2180373
How is that ironic?

>> No.2180395

>>2180284
>Redirection is just a bad and useless attitude
About as bad and useless as this discussion which manages the feat of shitting up a "shitty even by /v/ standards" thread to begin with.

>> No.2180403

>>2180395
Except that it serves a purpose and offers a counterpoint that is rarely pointed out in comparison to the act of redirection. Saying it's just as bad and useless would conclude that /v/ like behavior can't be changed and should be therefore silently tolerated. Both points are obviously wrong, and so is your logic.

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>>2180357
NO.

I am not going to argue about Sonic crap. I maybe on 4chan but shit hasn't sunk -that- low.

>> No.2180417

>>2180384
People always say it was too slow.

>> No.2180425 [DELETED] 

>>2180395
Yeah because politely replying to shitposters is much better. Fuck off and go back to /v/ already.

>> No.2180431

>>2180123
Why did this place become /v/ in the last month? Am I the only one who noticed?

>> No.2180432

>>2180403
You sound like the type of person who'd fire up google maps after being told to go to hell. Shit thread is shit. Pointless conversation is pointless. Post telling someone to fuck off is a post telling someone to fuck off. Sage all fields.

>> No.2180434

>>2180403
Yeah because politely replying to shitposters is much better. Fuck off and go back to /v/ already.

>> No.2180448

>>2180434
>>2180432
You are free to disagree. Changing minds was never my priority. I wanted the counterpoint to exist, to be heard and to be properly interpreted. Nothing more and nothing less. What you will do with that opinion, I don't know.

>> No.2180451

Counterpoint: I find Sonic more fun and it has entertained me for longer than Super Meat Boy. They cater to different niches anyway.

>> No.2180452

>>2180431

In fairness the quality of /v/ has sunk even further than it already was over the past week or two. We mihht be getting refugees.

>> No.2180459

>>2180431
All people on 4chan are shit. Basically emotional time bombs. Depending on the mood and thread a shitposter will become a quality poster and reverse.

On fast boards you can't really do anything about it, you can only make it worse. On slow as fuck boards every post counts though. One bad thread on here can last weeks. Never it's the topic that determines the quality of the thread, it's always the posters.

>> No.2180460

TL;DR

The first few Sonic games were super fun, end of discussion. Chill out little bro, sit down and play some games. Let the stress out.

>> No.2180472

>>2180123
>not because it played well.
>baww Sonic's not easy like Mario is

l2 rhythm and git gud

>> No.2180475

>>2180431
>month

/vr/ has cultivated its own unique brand of asshole poster more than a year ago. How many times have you seen someone spew >>>/v/ because someone expressed an opinion? Everyone here seems to think they're being baited all the time and yet fall for the most obvious trolls.

This board is a goddamn minefield of poorly veiled trickery and emotional overreaction and it has been that way for at least a year now. Though I agree it has been worse still since about 2 months ago, I'd say.

>> No.2180476

>>2180472
As if. You're behind the times broski, just chill and play.

>> No.2180538

>>2180475
You sound like you need to drop /vr/ for a month or 2. Something hit a nerve and all you see is idiots. It happens. Go outside (not irl, just other sites) for a while.

>> No.2180546

>>2180123
>sonic
>about speed
you bought into the 3d sonic advertisement hype. sonic was never about speed until a few literal retards saw a few hardware test sections in the genesis games just to show how fast the system could draw frames

>> No.2180557

>>2180538
I know a board full of idiots when I see one, and I can't say I'd ever see /vr/ descend to /tv/ levels of dickheadedness.

But a lot of people here brought their sacred cows with them and act like because they've been gaming for 30 years that their opinions have somehow fossilized into actual facts.

>> No.2180560

>>2180546
Thankyou!

This whole gotta go fast thing is just a meme that people take seriously for some reason. Sonic is a platformer, why is that so hard to understand?

>> No.2180565

>>2180546
I wanted to say this myself but i couldnt quite put it into words,sonic was never supposed to have super fast gameplay,its a steady platformer with some fast bits in it for the eye candy.

I guess the issue is that a lot of people on /vr/ are teenage hipster faggots who grew up on xbox.

>> No.2180568

>>2180557
You seem upset

>> No.2180601

Someone needs to draw tre/vr/or slowly turning into /v/.

>> No.2180617

>>2180560
>Sonic is a platformer, why is that so hard to understand?

Note that it is a platformer that allows you to go really really fast.

However you have to look at it by also looking at all the other games from the era. Sonic itself came in the twilight of the NES era. It was insanely fast compared to THAT. Yes, even the normal platform levels in Sonic 2 were pretty damn fast compared to average NES games.

The new sonic games in comparison are actual rollercoasters, and the only times you slow down are the occasional few places where you have to chain link jumps through 10 enemies, or whenever the game fucks up collission detection and has you stop immediately in thin air because it thinks you hit a wall, or when you fall through a platform for the same reason.

And if you think Sonic 2 is not allowing you to go fast, or has a camera too much zoomed in, try playing Sonic Advance. It is 2x more zoomed in, and the level design explicitly makes you run into spikes facing towards you, or springs will explicitly bounce you into spikes - and you cannot see any of them unless you know the level design perfectly.

>> No.2180718

>the camera is zoomed in to the point where you have zero chance of seeing obstacles or enemies coming
>Angry about rings

Oh, hey. I saw you in that other thread.

Again, hold down. Jump when you see an obstacle. It's not that tough.

If you'd prefer starting the whole level again whenever you get hit in exchange for super-easy levels, then play modern Sonic games and fall into pits a few times.