Phantasy Star 2

[Kasperl No.2161850]

I recently snagged a copy of Phantasy Star 2 from a local used media emporium for like $23. This is the first RPG I've played on my Genesis, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.2161856]

>>2161850
A lot of loading

Stick with it you'll be glad you finished it.

[Anonymous No.2161862]

An oldschool dungeon crawler that is disguised by its overhead view. Get ready for dungeons that will make you weep. Also, a surprisingly decent story and twilight zone ending.

My advice: don't use online help. You beat this one on your own and you'll get satisfaction you never thought possible from the generally ultra casual RPG genre.

This game and 4 sold me on Phantasy Star. I never even knew about them because no one used to talk about these. Watch out for your battery though. This game is damn old. Make sure to test that it still works before you dive in. It is at least a 30 hour game.

[Kasperl No.2161940]

>>2161862
>Get ready for dungeons that will make you weep.
...How?

[Anonymous No.2161942]

>>2161940
U gon die

[Anonymous No.2162003]

>>2161942
I second that
Lots of grinding my friend

[Anonymous No.2162010]

>>2162003
You'd only need to grind if you're a little bitch that follows guides.

[Anonymous No.2162015]

>>2162010
Wouldn't grinding make more sense for going blind and not grinding make more sense if you're using a guide and know everything already?

[Anonymous No.2162017]

>>2162015
If you don't use any kind of guide or map, you'll end up wandering around so much you might be overleveled.

[Anonymous No.2162313]

Expect extreme grinding but badass battle music

[Anonymous No.2162315]

>>2161940
Well, wait till you get to Climatrol. That's the first "real" dungeon in the game.

Also, the posters talking about "grinding" aren't really using it in the proper sense of the word. You grind a couple levels outside of the first town like in any old RPG, then that's it.

[Kasperl No.2162396]

>>2162313
Badass indeed. Any idea where a guy could get his mitts on a copy of the soundtrack? I can't seem to find one on the googles.

[Anonymous No.2162413]

You'll hate blasters, if you ever reach them

also, get ready for feels.

[Anonymous No.2162421]

I played Phantasy Star II about half a year ago. It's pretty good, I imagine it's great if you like massive dungeons and mazes. The soundtrack is awesome, but can get a bit repetitive near the end. It drove my brother crazy, but I didn't mind since I thought it was good.

It's pretty primitive compared to later 16-bit JRPGs, but I think it deserves a bit of a pass, considering it is (to my knowledge) the first JRPG on a 16-bit console. It shouldn't really be compared to, say, the SNES installments of Final Fantasy, since it actually came out about 3 months after FF2 on the Famicom.

[Anonymous No.2162431]

>>2162396
Look up Project2612.

[Kasperl No.2162472]

>>2162431
Anything that uses MP3's?

[Anonymous No.2162481]

>>2162472
If you got Foobar2000, you can easily convert those to MP3s. I don't know where to get MP3s of this.

[Anonymous No.2162683]

>>2161850
I hope that you've played another RPG before and have some experience with the genre because PS2 is not very forgiving. It is, however, very satisfying to play and eventually beat for this very reason. Also for dat soundtrack doe.

[Anonymous No.2162912]

>>2161850

You are in for ATMOSPHERE. this game has so much of it. It's my favourite game of all time. Don't spoil it for yourself, just play it.

[That Ecchi Guy !!SXqkEzxV5p0 No.2163158]

>>2161850
Decent story and nice soundtrack. Maze dungeons and random encounters out the ass though.

[Anonymous No.2163356]

I really want to like this game but the encounter rate is psychotic.

[Kasperl No.2163535]

Enjoying PS2 so far. I especially like that you have an attack for each hand.

However, I ran into a small snag. I got Rudo in my party and when to the Hair Metal Weapons store to get some new implements. I picked up a dagger for Rudo without knowing he was already fully loaded. I can't find it in inventory and I got charged for it. Is this a thing that can happen?

[Anonymous No.2163768]

>>2161850
a good time, some epic battle music with intense action, some confusing ass dungeons that you'll need maps for (not lying...), and at the end of the first chapter.... feels.

Oh those feels for Nei

[Anonymous No.2163769]

>>2163535
i dont recall, but check to see if when you purchased it if it auto-equip on someone. That might not be a PS2 thing though and if not, ignore. Its been awhile since i last played.

[Anonymous No.2163867]

One of the greatest games I have ever played

[Kasperl No.2164192]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ghXCnPFFg

[Anonymous No.2164231]

>>2163535
second page of items ?
if the character is full, the clerk will ask if you want sombody else to carry it

[Anonymous No.2164287]

Favorite entry in the original series?
Mine will always be IV, not just my favorite in the series but my all time favorite 16-bit JRPG, but II and even the original are not far behind.
I know there are cats out there that really love III though, can't say I understand them but I'm glad it floats some peoples boat.

[Anonymous No.2164303]

>>2161862
>generally ultra casual RPG genre
left out a 'j' there I think

[Anonymous No.2164312]

>>2164287
2 is my favorite but it's the nostalgia that pushes it ahead of 4, which absolutely can stand against the likes of the Squaresoft games.

[Anonymous No.2164325]

>>2164303
No, I really didn't.

[Anonymous No.2164345]

>>2164303
>>2164303
>>2164303
>muh gary gygax
hurf durf

[Anonymous No.2165397]

Best part of the series IMO; it's worth your while. Yet, it takes a long time and a lot of nerves to go through the game with its long-winded dungeons. You will spent a shitload of time in a dungeon and finally see a door; you go through it and realize: it was the entrance - you're at the beginning (once) again, but gained a lot of EXP walking through the dungeons.

[Kasperl No.2165407]

[Anonymous No.2165414]

>>2161850
Have fun with the last fucking dungeon and that bitch who keeps leaving your party to steal shit.

[Anonymous No.2165418]

>>2165414
She only does that in shops and she isn't hard to get back.

She can get you stuff you can't get otherwise and she's a pretty good party member too

I honestly found it easy to mentally map each dungeon, the internal logic of them isn't that bad

A lot of them work with the left hand rule even

[Anonymous No.2165423]

>>2165418
What is it? Moon Dew and Star Mist?

[Anonymous No.2165441]

>>2161940
So basically you need to grind for the first couple of levels, just enough to be able to withstand some shit. I suggest doing this by roaming around just outside of the first city. After that, levels don't account for much, with one exception. Each characters has a bonus level as I like to call it. Basically it works like this. Every 7 levels, Rolph (Your main) will gain a massive stat increase for one trait such as attack or defense, and sometimes it can be as much as a 20 point increase which is fucking impressive. Each character has a "bonus" level and the amount of levels needed in between is different with every character, like Nei's might be 12 or something and Rudo's could be 4. So keep that in mind and remember to save just before you level up, so that way, if you don't like the stats you got, you can reset for better ones.

Now back to what I was saying earlier. Besides the bonus levels, and your initial levels, leveling won't help you by much. What helps is having the best armor/weapons equipped at all times and having a massive stock of Mono/Di/Trimates. Now of course you practically have to grind for money because shit is expensive and you aren't awarded much in fights, so in essence, your still grinding. I say leveling can be useless, because I was in the bio lab, and kicking ass. I was above the recommended levels and I was nearly to the end of the dungeon, and out of nowhere, I come across these two amoebas, and before I have a chance to attack, they've one shotted my entire party and basically levels meant nothing if I couldn't even strike them. That's why it's better to just trek through the dungeon as fast as you can.

Also dungeons can be very long, arduous, and very maze-like, however, keep in mind that there aren't too many real bosses in this game, so most of the time, you reach the end of the dungeon, grab what you need, and teleport out of that bitch.

[Anonymous No.2165443]

>>2165423
At first glance I read this as mountain dew and moon mist

[Anonymous No.2165445]

>>2162421
It was the first true 16 bit RPG on a home console, but """"""TECHNICALLY"""""" Advanced Dungeons and Dragons on the Intellivision is first because somehow, the system uses a 16 bit graphics processor.

[Anonymous No.2165450]

>>2165445
I didn't know intellivision had an rpg

[Anonymous No.2165462]

>>2165450
I would very loosely label it as an RPG, but yeah, technically Advanced D&D was such, and the Intellivision had the first actual 16 bit graphics processor of any home video game system, so if you bring up Phantasy Star II as being the first, people will fucking call you out on it.

[Anonymous No.2165473]

>>2165414
>>2165418

I only used Shir after arriving on Dezolis on one of my many play-throughs. I got around her "grab and dash" bullshit by loading her up with mates ASAP and also always saving before entering any shops. Having to make a long trek all the way back to your home on Mota just to get her back is indeed a time-consuming pain in the ass.

In the end, she isn't even worth it. Her powerful techs and dual-wielding weapons can be replicated mostly by Kain, and he's far tougher to kill, too. Honestly though, I always just replace Nei with Anna after that particular loss on Mota, and I love having Amy around to heal the whole game. With a couple acid shots or flame staves, she even manages to hold it down and finish things off sometimes. (Rudo is automatically in every ones party. You're a fool if he's not leading yours).

[Kasperl No.2167382]

[Anonymous No.2167436]

>>2167382
Wait...

Is Rolf's name supposed to be a third degree bastardization of Jesus in Japan?

A Jesus who genocides the last remnants of humanity in a bizarre twist of fate?

[Anonymous No.2167446]

>>2165462
And then you have this faggot. ADaD on the Intellivision was about as much an RPG as Pong.

[Anonymous No.2167452]

>>2165450
It didn't. He's just a D and D faggot that's rolled too many 1s in the RPG of life. You always get people like this, willing to stretch the content of a game to fit their world view or just to be contrarian. These are the same people that will tell you that Haunted House for the 2600 was the first Survival Horror game.

[Anonymous No.2167795]

>>2167436
His name is "Eusis" in Japan, if I'm not mistaken.

[Anonymous No.2167813]

>>2167795
isn't that a bastardization of Jesus?

which is itself a bastardization of Yeshu

[Anonymous No.2167823]

>>2167813
Considering it's Japan I wouldn't be surprised if they just chose that because it sounds cool.

[Anonymous No.2167827]

>>2167823

[Anonymous No.2167914]

>>2162315
Yeah, even first Phantasy Star was more grind heavy, and compared to Dragon Quest II there barely is any grinding.

[Anonymous No.2167929]

>>2167382
I love that style.

[Anonymous No.2168392]

>>2167452
>>2167446
I was in no way agreeing with those types of people. I do not really think that D&D on the intellivision is an RPG of any sort. What i am saying is that there are assholes out there however, who will use the D&D game as an example when arguing over the first 16 bit home console RPG.

[Anonymous No.2168789]

>>2164287
IV is the only one I've played, but I loved it. I'm hesitant to start II because I'm pretty casual when it comes to RPGs.

[Anonymous No.2168840]

What would you guys consider as the grindiest rpg?

[Anonymous No.2168862]

>>2168840
5 bucks say it was made in Korea.

[Anonymous No.2168868]

>>2162313
What's with that extra drum beat in the Japanese version?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-6kY7xPMZ8

[Anonymous No.2168874]

>>2168840
In terms of grinding vs actual content? Probably the first Dragon Quest. Like 90% of that game is just grinding.

[Anonymous No.2168886]

>>2168874

this guy doesn't know what grinding is.

here let me help you guys.

BATTLING while doing QUESTS is NOT grinding.

WALKING AROUND AND BATTLING to level up so you can do quests IS grinding.

If you had to grind more than 20 minutes when you first leave the castle, then you just suck at the game.

[Anonymous No.2168887]

>>2168886
Nigga even the speedruns for DQ1 is mainly grinding.

[Anonymous No.2168898]

>>2168886
What would you consider as the worst grinding game then?

[Anonymous No.2169070]

>>2168898

A game of sex with your mom.

Just kidding.

[Anonymous No.2169127]

>>2168868
It's there in the American release, it's just noticeably emphasized in the Jap release, like really noticeably.

[Anonymous No.2169205]

>>2167813
I don't think so. Jesus in Japanese is something like "isisu" Not the I sound like "eye" but the I sound from "dick". Eusis sort of rhymes with "you sissy".

[Kasperl No.2169662]

>>2169127
Any idea why they did that? I kinda like the extra punch the snare has in the Japanese version.

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[Anonymous No.2171667]

>>2169205
I love the 4chan way of explaining things.

[Kasperl No.2172731]

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[Anonymous No.2173615]

>>2171638
wtf the fuck is goin on in that fanart

[Anonymous No.2173645]

>>2173615
the chick from the save game place is stalking rudo

(in the background, rolf is alerted to shir stealing a passport or something from the save girl, nei is confused because she's a cat so she probably can't read)

[Anonymous No.2173650]

>>2163867
I adore that cover art

[Anonymous No.2174378]

>>2161862
>>2165397
>>2165441
You guys warned be about the dungeons. I'm only just getting to the first and this certainly the most involved first dungeon I can think of.

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[Anonymous No.2175943]

>>2173645

Isn't that what actually happens in the Game Gear Phantasy Star Text Adventures?

[Kasperl No.2177263]

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[Anonymous No.2180292]

>>2179247
>Translators saw fit to name that cat girl monster "CATMAN" in the game

[Anonymous No.2180423]

Seems like a good place to ask. I got a copy of Phantasy Star IV today for 30 dollars. No case, but oddly enough it came with the manual. Label looks mostly good though it has some wrinkles in it that tell me it probably had water splashed on it at one point. Manual is in good condition except it looks like someone drew a line on the front in red marker. Other than that there are no other marks, no pages missing, no frays, etc.

Tested it out. Works great. Just wanna know if I got a good deal. It was kind of an impulse buy.

[Anonymous No.2180735]

>>2180423
> 30 dollars for a 20 year old game that you can download for free
> good buy

lol

[Anonymous No.2180750]

>>2180735

>Not understanding the appeal of collecting

It ain't just about playing, you know. Though playing the games you collect is the best part of the experience.

On a real Genesis on an old CRT. It's the best.

[Anonymous No.2180809]

>>2168789
Well, 2 might be a little aged for you. The menus can be annoying. Give it a try tho.

[Anonymous No.2180956]

>>2162010
Not as bad as the grinding you had to do in PS1

[Anonymous No.2181054]

>>2180750

This guy knows what's up.

[Anonymous No.2181875]

>>2180956
Again something you'll only need to do if you seek outside help. Once you've got on your feet at the beginning you never need to grind again.

[Anonymous No.2183517]

>>2180423
I got a copy of Amazon last year, loose but like new, for 17 bucks.

[Anonymous No.2183880]

>>2183517

I only see two of them on Amazon right now and the lowest one is $49.95. Geez.

[Anonymous No.2186369]

[Anonymous No.2187049]

>>2186369
Why does she always have claws in art? I don't think Neifirst even used claws. Her attack animation looks like a sword.

[Anonymous No.2187061]

>>2180423
You payed a bit much (I got my cartridge for $25, no case or instruction manual), but it's easily worth that in how good the game is. But, as other anons have said, you could've got it for free.
>>2163535
A tip for Rudo - he can equip damn near everything, so when you start to get weapon upgrades for Rolf (e.g. ceramic/laser knives) you can equip those on Rudo too, and he'll probably do a lot more damage than whatever gun he's wielding.

And have fun when you get to Dezolis and do the dungeons there. Ikuto is Satan.

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