Daggerfall until you die

[Anonymous No.2142320]

Cheatmode 1 edition

Where to get it legal and for free:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

or

http://wiwiki.wiwiland.net/index.php?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN

Manual:
http://download.zenimax.com/bethsoft.com/manuals/Daggerfall/daggerfall-en.pdf


Help, I don't know what to do:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/29065-the-elder-scrolls-chapter-ii-daggerfall/faqs/50211

This offers great explanations on how to join and advance in guilds, how to properly build a character, how the advantages and disadvantages at character creation work, how to make money, how to work the spell-, item and potion-creator etc.

>WOW THAT'S WAY TOO LONG, AIN'T GONNA READ THAT!

How about this?:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/29065-the-elder-scrolls-chapter-ii-daggerfall/faqs/1702
or
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/29065-the-elder-scrolls-chapter-ii-daggerfall/faqs/1703

Lost in a dungeon? drop some cheap ingredients as trail (the 1-gold coin trick doesn't seem to work any more).

Bugged game? Why didn't you keep a savegame from before you asked the quest NPC for a new quest?

[Anonymous No.2142330]

Merry Christmas guys. I all got you a free copy of Daggerfall to download. Link in OP

[Anonymous No.2142332]

>>2142330
Y-you too...

[Anonymous No.2142358]

somehow soul trap doesn't work for me, I used it before killing a dragonling (the one for the quest, not just some random one) but I can't get its soul, both the soul gems I carry are still considered empty. Am I doing something wrong? or is it like just 1 second active?

[Anonymous No.2142362]

>>2142358
probably resisted it

[Anonymous No.2142363]

>>2142358
never mind, I always managed to kill it so fast after activating the spell the "soul tap active" message didn't pop up and so the soul tap wasn't active yet.
caught it now, easy 3000 points especially considering it was in the first room in that dungeon.

[Anonymous No.2142365]

>>2142363
No wait, holy shit, not 3000 but 5000 points

but it costs an additional 505000 GP to create, oh man...

[Anonymous No.2142375]

>tfw you can hear nymphs in a dungeon laughing at you and making fun of you

[Anonymous No.2142390]

>>2142375
>I bet he's lost
>he hasn't even saved yet
>he still uses steel armor

[Anonymous No.2142393]

[Anonymous No.2142454]

>>2142320
http://strawpoll.me/3177449
http://strawpoll.me/3254575

[Anonymous No.2142462]

>>2142454
Whilst Skyrim being at the top of games people have played disappoints me, ES: Online being lower than even Arena does not.

[Anonymous No.2142469]

>>2142454
>tfw only TES games I played were Skyrim and Daggerfall

[Anonymous No.2142479]

>>2142469
The first TES game I ever played was Skyrim. I worked my way down and found Daggerfall the best, Arena being unplayable. But now that I started playing around with the tank controls, it might be a bit different.

[Anonymous No.2142493]

>>2142393
..? xplain

[Anonymous No.2142497]

>>2142493
That questgiver is taking credit for telling him where the dragonling was located. If you deny the quest he threatens you since he is the only one who knows where the dragonling is and he wants to keep it that way so he can keep the glory of "helping" slay it

[Anonymous No.2142515]

>>2142479
well I played Daggerfall first, ignored all the rest and jumped straight to Skyrim

My brother started playing skyrim right now to get back into TES again, surely it's the easiest game after all.

>>2142493
It's a relatively high reputation quest from the knights orders, that's the pop up when you turn it in but it does fuckall, no one will greet you as dragon slayer.

[Anonymous No.2142552]

Alright /dfg/, I'm new to this game. I wanted to build a monk-like hand 2 hand character, but is that recommended for a first character?

if not that, id make a type of cleric class with mace/shield as my focus.

[Anonymous No.2142562]

>>2142552
Do whatevs man, just expect to get lost in a dungeon and save often in multiple saves

[Anonymous No.2142569]

>rest in dungeon because low hp
>wake up after fully healed
>deadra lord around the corner
>bumrush him
>dies in 1 hit
>didn't even cast soul trap

Ah well, there's going to be more of them I'm sure.
But was I just lucky because I got a critical hit on him or are they low on hp all the time?

also, kind of annoying when you are fully healed up after resting or if you sleep "for a few hours" and that span ends then you can still end up getting spawns around you but the game doesn't warn you about it like as if your sleep was interrupted.

[Anonymous No.2142761]

>liches
>spell reflection

holy shit man, suddenly they are a joke, totally underestimated that. found a lich right now that always drops a map, going to load as long as it takes for him to drop a map to one of the witches' covens

[Anonymous No.2142861]

>>2142761
Spell reflection is like the one thing that really works to save your ass from ancient liches and vampires. Resistance is almost as good but less funny.

Really gotta get those enchantments going though or some later dungeons are just nightmares of near-instant-death monsters (usually both lich and vampire).

[Anonymous No.2142906]

>>2142861
Yeah I've already visited those dungeons.
I'm doing a knight's quest for Auriel's Shield right now and since I had to talk to that witch anyway I brought a letter of credit worth 200k with me in any case and summoned hircine. Thought that'd be fucking great to have Hircine's ring, which I have right now, shifting into werewolf form back and forth at will sounded pretty awesome.
Little did I know you actually have to have contracted lycanthropy beforehand already, I thought you could just use it at will. Fuck!
Going to find a werewolf dungeon now...

But boy, do you need to visit lots of dungeons for those artifacts. Liches and vampires everywhere. Even had a 2nd Deadra Lord as random spawn hanging around again. Seriously those fuckers are really easy, but the anchient liches are nightmares when you meet them around a corner.

[Anonymous No.2142907]

>Join the mages guild
>They send me off to Theodyrick Laboratory at lvl 3
Fucking flesh antronachs and that one lich keep raping me. before I can get to my quest objective.

[Anonymous No.2142910]

>>2142906
Haw haw, fucking boss. Speaking of the devil, the dungeon that contains Auriel's shield is a werewolf dungeon, finally a bit of luck.

[Anonymous No.2142912]

>>2142907
guess you're unlucky there but normally at that level the laboratories have Imps, Battlemages, Sorcerers and shit.
But atronachs are comparatively easy, just walk backwards while hitting them or stand still and walk backwards as soon as their attack animation starts, that's slow as fuck, should be doable.

[Anonymous No.2142915]

>>2142907
I'm level 4 and flesh atronachs are no problem for me, I've fought like three of them at once before.

[Anonymous No.2142952]

>>2142907

Here's a helpful link: http://www.jceason.dircon.co.uk/dagger/dfspellm.htm

However, where those spells recommend target at range, I'd recommend area at range (assuming you have spell absorption). See, target-at-range spells are sort of glitchy and have a tendency to not work or hit at all. In dungeons they tend more often than not to not hit, and outside they basically have no effect.

By contrast, area-at-range spells, though more expensive, always hit - whether you're indoors or outdoors - they have a surprisingly impressive range, and if you have spell absorption (which if you're playing a spellcaster and you made a custom class you really should have), then, if you're within range of the spell (which you probably will be) it will technically affect you, but be absorbed, giving you back all the mana you spent casting it. Basically, free AOE long-ranged spell you can make as strong as you want. The only problem is that it tends to bounce enemies around, which can get a bit scary if they end up bouncing into you. However, if you shoot it in front of an enemy, you can (with a little timing) keep repeatedly bouncing them back and keep them away from you indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.2142953]

I love when you get sent to a dungeon, and the exterior is more than just a little hill with a door in it. Sometimes I'm sent to old castles with multiple entrances, or forts that are falling apart (also with multiple entrances). I like to scale the walls and use the upper doors to start the dungeon. Too bad each door goes to the exact same spot in the dungeon.

[Anonymous No.2142987]

>>2142953

Yeah, I think that's one case where less randomization would've helped. Like, dungeons are divided into different sorts (castle, ruined castle, barbarian stronghold, orc fort, animal nest/cave, etc.). Well, personally, I think it would've been better if they'd just had a few set exteriors for each type. So that, for instance, all castles and barbarian strongholds look like castles, all ruined castles look like, well, ruined castles, all orc forts look like Orsinium I guess, etc., and the only dungeons that just look like little hills with door would be animal nests.

[Anonymous No.2143014]

How are you supposed to navigate this shit without levitate or water breathing? that's water at the bottom by the way.
Fucking hilarious, pure warrior characters would be so fucked. Good thing I have those spells.

[Anonymous No.2143016]

>>2143014

So cool, like an underground city.

I wish they had settlements like that in the game, like as actual towns with shops and NPCs and such. That would've been so cool.

[Anonymous No.2143024]

>>2142915
The problem is my character doesn't have any speed stat and low dodge skill. She's almost a pure mage aside from high hand to hand skill.

>>2142952
I was already using the nuke/spell absorb style. But with lvl 3, the damage was only 3-21. Also I had almost max int/wil, but sometimes the Lich gets a lucky spell in. And I haven't even mentioned their pimp slaps of doom.

I've already finished the quest, but god damn, I'm not going back there until I'm at least lvl 12.

[Anonymous No.2143039]

>>2142952
>>2143024
nuke/absorb is pretty overpowered, spell absorpstion is really an incredible trait to take at character creation. I've created cheap aoe spells that cover 3 disciplines of magic each, just stand against a wall and cast/recast a couple of times (I rather do it half a minute long by now since most of my disciplines are in the upper 70s or 80s and it takes way longer to be sure of a skill up) and you're fine.

[Anonymous No.2143040]

>>2143016
>subterranean cities with bazaars, water, gondolas, and floating platforms

[Anonymous No.2143182]

>tfw with very high running skill and speed it feels like you are faster on foot than on horse

Is that just subjective or is it actually a fact?

[Anonymous No.2143196]

>>2143182
Fact, especially if you're jumping and running. You eventually start launching like a cannonball.

[Anonymous No.2143202]

>>2143196
I didn't like the clop clop sound anyway

[Anonymous No.2143203]

>>2143182
I think the horse speed is just slightly faster than the maximum possible running speed (without cheats).

[Anonymous No.2143204]

>>2143202
Mine glitches out constantly, it makes a bunch of sounds at once. It's pretty annoying so I never use the horse.

[Anonymous No.2143209]

>>2143204
Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY0_TOz3rv4

[Anonymous No.2143228]

>>2143040

Man that would be so fucking awesome.

Come to think of it though, the cities in general could've been a bit better designed. I mean, layout-wise they feel like Medieval cities, but there should've been open-air markets, maybe some occasional (albeit probably fairly rare) NPCs on horses or carts, maybe a slight increase to the chances of enemies spawning in towns (it happens already, being attacked by human enemies in towns, but seems fairly rare (also werewolves, but that's literally only happened to me once). Beggars would've been nice, too, and come to think of it, maybe a bit more... density I guess?

I mean, at the very least, how hard would it have been to put shopkeepers outside behind/around little market-stands, maybe with boxes? They could've had little item graphics as the things you click to buy things, or just had the buy menu connected to the outside shopkeepers themselves. That would've been cool, I think.

For that matter, though, they could've programmed roads to automatically be generated following a rough path between settlements, and maybe had some friendly NPCs (probably guards and merchants on carts) spawn along those roads.

[Anonymous No.2143230]

>>2143209
link that on /mlp/ and they'll thank you and fap to it

[Anonymous No.2143235]

>>2143228
too much work for a game on that scale. just look at what we already have, one can easily forget how big the game actually is, everything you want in it would have been additional months of design at the very least.

>Bethesda claims that the scale of the game is the size of Great Britain: around 229,848 square kilometers/ 88,745 sq miles, though the actual size of the map is 161,600 square kilometers, or 62,394 square miles. The game world features over 15,000 towns, cities, villages and dungeons for the player's character to explore. According to Todd Howard, game director and executive producer for Bethesda, the game's sequel, The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, is 0.01% the size of Daggerfall, but most of Daggerfall's terrain was randomly generated. The explorable part of Morrowind, Vvardenfell, is 9.3 square miles, or 24 square kilometers. By comparison,The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is approximately 22 square miles, or 56.97 square kilometers, and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is 14.3 square miles, or 37.1 square kilometers, with a quarter of this terrain as unplayable, as it is stuck behind invisible borders.

>In Daggerfall, there are 750,000+ non-player characters (NPCs) for the player to interact with, compared to the count of around 1,000 NPCs found in Morrowind and Oblivion. However, the geography and the characters in these later games are much more detailed.

>over 15,000 towns, cities, villages and dungeons

[Anonymous No.2143309]

>>2143209
Imagine that but even faster, and with a lot of neighing.

[Anonymous No.2143338]

Which view was DF optimized for?

[Anonymous No.2143492]

>>2143230
fap what?

[Anonymous No.2143589]

>>2143338
640x480

>>2143492
they're horsefuckers. ask for "clop clop" and you get horse-/pony-porn

[Anonymous No.2143675]

Hmm, I wonder if...

[Anonymous No.2143747]

>>2143235

I dunno, the city-related stuff would just basically be a few extra NPCs generated in towns and a slight alteration to the shop system, and the road thing would still be auto-generated (once generated, the data for any given province (like anything else) is stored in memory AFAIK, so really it would just be generating road textures in a line between settlements. I'm not an expert or anything but it really doesn't seem like it would be that hard or take up that much extra memory, would it?

[Anonymous No.2143839]

early in the game, where can you store items? (aside from the cart, residence and ship)

[Anonymous No.2143867]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKj-r_FlzUU

[Anonymous No.2144057]

>>2143589
No I meant cursor view or view based?

[Anonymous No.2144063]

>>2144057

Do yourself a favor and only ever use view-based. Change the controls to a sort of Doom-like thing. View-based, WASD movement, mouse buttons for interacting/attacking, etc..

Playing cursor-based with the default Eye of the Beholder-style controls is just plain not fun. Honestly, I have no idea why that's the default option.

[Anonymous No.2144085]

>>2144063
not that anon but actually I kinda like it,it grows after playing Ultima Underworld for a couple hours

[Anonymous No.2144093]

>>2144063
>Honestly, I have no idea why that's the default option.

Because it was the year 1996.
People back then grew up with Eye of the Beholder-style RPGs. Eye of the Beholder was just 5 years old back then with the last game of its line (part 3) being released just 3 years back in 1993.
Doom was considered a complete different genre then and developers still had problems creating a proper 3D engine (as you an plainly see in this very game) that wasn't a licensed Doom Engine.
Most people were simply used to playing RPGs like that, you can even switch the speed down at character creation to make it easier for that type of play.

Not directly related, but being completely unable to pause the game turn-style (except for inventory- and character management) actually pissed a few of my friends off.

[Anonymous No.2144137]

Just summoned Merune, sent into one of those absolutely shitty elevator dungeons, but the quest mob was just down the first elevator. Whew, dodged a bullet there.

[Anonymous No.2144154]

>install this game a week after bethesda makes it free
>never played it before, just experienced with Arena
>always like Arena because it was probably the first RPG that did not restrict you to square spaces for movement
>Daggerfall loads up
>familiar character creation with signs of touching up
>get thrown into game
>"HOLY FUCK, improved mechanics!"
>get wrecked by rat on first play through
>get wrecked by flying evil fairy that shoots magic
>rush past the first few doors
>make it to a big set of stairs
>hear something making haunting whailing sounds
>"OH SHIT A SKELETON!"
>hit it and the hurt sound sends a chill down my spine
>pause game and take a breather

Later I exit the first dungeon, get lost and end up places I shouldn't be and give up shortly after a spider kills me. Haven't touched it since.

Not too long ago, a mod that uses the Daggerfall skeleton screams came out but I realized that I am still not brave enough go try this game again.

[Anonymous No.2144168]

>>2144154
http://images.uesp.net/c/c1/DF-Skeleton_Warrior_Sound.ogg

[Anonymous No.2144198]

>>2142320
What makes a game like daggerfall fun?

[Anonymous No.2144210]

>>2144198
Muh Immersion

[Anonymous No.2144360]

>>2143867

[Anonymous No.2144387]

>>2144198

It's a game that despite it's very limited graphics manages to build an interesting world to inhabit. If you're not already familiar with it, you can spend hours with the in-game library picking up the lore on what's going on. The dungeon crawling element is pretty unlike most other games given the huge and sprawling nature of most. The quests in the game can be quite smart and few feel like filler material despite all but the main quest technically being randomly generated filler. Nothing that you'll beat your head against the wall at how stupid it is (like many quest lines in Skyrim for an easy comparison).

It's got serious personality as a title, even if you've played it's successors. You get thrown into a surprisingly harsh and challenging (especially for modern gamers familiar only with Skyrim and maybe Oblivion) world with little idea what's going on and a hell of a lot to do in it.

[Anonymous No.2144457]

>>2144198
What I like about Daggerfall is that even though the dungeons were generated, they all feel a bit different. Each on has its style and twists, enemies and lever puzzles.
There are over different 100 quests with often multiple outcomes and you generally have the freedom to do anything you want... pretty amazing for a 1996 DOS game that was developed by two guys in less than two years.

[Anonymous No.2144481]

>>2144457
think I'll finally have to get around the Illiac bay a bit.

I just went to the Dragontail Mountains for fun, I don't like it there. All normal buildings have the mages guild textures and the mages guild looks completely different.
I'm gonna beam the fuck outta there (it's good to be archmage)

[Anonymous No.2144487]

>>2144481
Really now? Really? First time I ever enter the desert and it's fucking raining?

[Anonymous No.2144510]

>>2144457
>>2144487
pretty impressed with Sentinel though, that palace is huuuuuuge

[Anonymous No.2144535]

>>2144168
Yeah, that fucking sound.

Instant Nightmare Noodles!

[Anonymous No.2144549]

>>2144168
>>2144535

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFeN5-M8GR8#t=25s

[Anonymous No.2144567]

Currently working on a fix for clothing sticking out of pauldrons. Done with Khajiit and Argonian but still have to do human and elf.

[Anonymous No.2144573]

>Notice roofs are clean even during winter
>Think to myself it's normal for a game this old to not really have a lot of texture swaps
>Notice roofs are covered in snow only when it's snowing
>Mind fucking blown

[Anonymous No.2144576]

>>2144154
>>2144457
>pretty amazing for a 1996 DOS game that was developed by two guys in less than two years

It's almost incomprehensible how much better Daggerfall is than Arena. For the series in general people seem remember the graphical jumps from Daggerfall to Morrowind and Morrowind to Oblivion, but Arena to Daggerfall will always be the greatest leap in overall quality to me.

[Anonymous No.2144583]

>>2144573
Yeah I really love the weather effects in this game. Daggerfall was years ahead of its time in so many ways.

[Anonymous No.2144604]

>>2144573
Detail is that Daggerfall does best. In a weird kinda way. Well, that and size. And detail only in terms of a mid-90s game. But yes, detail in Daggerfall is one of those things that when you see it, you can really appreciate that effort went into it. Like a lot of the rooms in the main quest dungeons, getting a custom lay-out, even with bits of furniture, really helped them feel more special.

I think Morrowind set the standard though for all following games in terms of pointless but immersive detail, even if it didn't have schedules for people and stuff (without a mod). Though in some ways, the lack of the Radiant AI thing actually helped it (and Daggerfall even more so) be more immersive because there was fewer things to break and ruin suspension of disbelief. That it's a more primitive system means you don't feel so odd when you do something crazy and no-one reacts as when that happens in the latter games. Or it just breaks.

[Anonymous No.2144678]

>quests with time limits
>quests with specific day requirements
>quests with vague directions
>quests with time limits that send you into mega dungeons for a smear of troll blood
>quests that are aren't actually possible to clear

This game...

[Anonymous No.2144808]

>>2144576
As someone who absolutely adores Daggerfall, in my opinion Arena is complete fucking shit. It's a clunky unintuitive mess and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get into it after beating Daggerfall (I even played the Ultima Underworld games). Arena is just subpar, Daggerfall is a fucking masterpiece. The jump in quality between them is fuckhuge.

[Anonymous No.2144812]

>>2144567
Oh shit, nice. I always thought the clothing sticking out of the armor was really stupid.

[Anonymous No.2144841]

>>2144567
Are you playing this with filters? What? How?

[Anonymous No.2144856]

>>2144841
DOSBox can into filters, check the dosbox.conf file in the Daggerfall folder and it will tell you how to enable them in the comments.

[Anonymous No.2144910]

>>2144841
Dosbox Daum has Direct3d shaders.

Almost done now. All that's left for me to do is Human clothing+armor, and two capes for khajiit/argonian.

This mod is for females though. It'll be a while before I start tweaking dude armors and clothes.

[Anonymous No.2144991]

Are there any differences between spells made in the spellmaker and the ones you buy?

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.2145008]

>get sent on a quest to rescue priestess's daughter (niece? cousin? whatever) from a dungeon
>find her trapped in a cage
>tell her to hold her celebration; getting into a dungeon is the easy part
>spend next half hour or so searching for the exit
>keep her occupied by telling her tales of bravery, reassure her that ghosts and wraiths are usually more afraid of you than you are of them
>finally get to the surface
>take my helmet off like I'm Samus Aran
>spend reward money on cool red clothes

I wonder if this is too garish, but life's too short to dial yourself down.

[Anonymous No.2145020]

>>2144910
>not enabling aspect ratio correction

come ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon.

[Anonymous No.2145035]

>>2145020
>caring about aspect ratio

[Anonymous No.2145046]

>>2145035
I don't get it, what does the Persona guy has to do with liking 4:3 for retro PC gaming? Widescreen wasn't widespread at all during that time (pun sort of intended), so wouldn't it make sense to display it like everyone used to?

[Anonymous No.2145048]

>>2145046

[Anonymous No.2145051]

>>2145048
...

Oh you fucker.

[Anonymous No.2145054]

>>2144063
Arena is like that. It's kind of charming but it wouldn't work in a game with as much in-depth level design as Daggerfall.

[Anonymous No.2145058]

>>2143309
I have that too, every time I talk to a villager the horse loses its fuckin mind

I think it's a problem with DOSBOx

[Anonymous No.2145059]

>>2144678
That's just the tip of the iceberg, frogposter.

[Anonymous No.2145063]

>>2144457
That draw distance is the shit, how did you do that?

[Anonymous No.2145167]

>>2144567
I like your work, but did you actually make photos of your screen? Just press the print-screen key and copy it into your favourite image manipulator programme (press ctrl-v)

>>2144573
that's pretty detailed.

>>2144678
>quests with vague directions

>We just summoned a bunch of imps and they flew off, please catch them. Oh and no one knows where they are, ask around on the streets.

I still don't know how to do those quests, I always load when I get one of those.

>>2144991
some quests need the ones you buy. the mages guild sometimes sends you on a quest where someone was cursed by a witch to suffer from insomnia and "a simple sleep" spell will fix it. this MUST be the sleep spell you can buy, it even says so in the quest text.

>>2145008
Looks like a good combination for a juggler or jester.

>>2143209
>>2143309
>>2145046
Just get off your high horse then.

[Anonymous No.2145184]

>>2145167
>I still don't know how to do those quests

If I remember correctly, you talk to NPCs until they tell you.

[Anonymous No.2145189]

>>2145184
Sounds like the worst quest ever.

[Anonymous No.2145320]

I just did the grand tour of the Illiac Bay (took me just a day, based teleportation, it's good to be the arch mage), but I'm not really impressed with the South. Sure, Sentinel Palace looks great, but that's it. The desert/earthen colours give me a headache after a while.

Besides, I'm just a common citizen anywhere else than in Daggerfall. Sucks.

[Anonymous No.2145328]

[Anonymous No.2145330]

>>2145189
Can't be the worst ever, it doesn't even involve collecting 5+ of X item that only randomly drops on repeat for a guy.

[Anonymous No.2145334]

>>2145330
That doesn't sound like a Daggerfall quest though. I was just talking about Daggerfall.

[Anonymous No.2145343]

>>2145328

>dat ass doe

[Anonymous No.2145346]

I still haven't joined a temple, it doesn't really offer anything the mages guild doesn't, religion vs science! is it even worth it any more?
I read somewhere each faith has some unique trait, like Kynareth increasing your time you can hold your breath and that other one letting you travel faster, but does this permanently apply or is it just from donating and a temporary blessing

[Anonymous No.2145356]

>>2145346
Potion making. Mages guild does not offer that. Almost all temples do.

[Anonymous No.2145403]

>>2145356
Oh all right, good point.

Though I have never used a single poition ever. The recipes I found on dungeon runs are just lying around in the back of my wagon, together with the potions I found, gathering dust.
Since it isn't a skill to bring up I never bothered.

[Anonymous No.2145426]

That Kill-A-Dragon quest by the Knights orders is pretty great. Took it for the 2nd time now and the Knights of the Dragon in Daggerfall sent me to the exact same place as before (Ruins of Old Gwynyrrya's Place) and the quest mob was at the exact same location in the dungeon (just out of the entrance room, then down the left corridor until it parts and there's a room between the parting where the dragonling is). Fucking easy 5000 points for a soulgem.

I wasn't aware of it, but the problems I had catching it last time resulted of it resisting the soul trap spell, I simply didn't see the message.

[Anonymous No.2145436]

>>2145426
Okay, this is funny. Just for trying it out I left the dungeon and came back to check if you can catch that dragonling a second time. You can. It adds 5000 points to your magic item creation. I now have 3 gems in my inventory with 5000 points.
I'm stocking up on soul gems now...

[Anonymous No.2145472]

Are artifacts repaired by items enchanted with the "repair items" effect without a modified z.cfg? That sanguine rose looks bitchin

[Anonymous No.2145618]

>>2145472
Yes they are, but some of the artifacts may kill themselves before repairing kicks in (like that dagger, it basically insta kills one enemy but applies the same damage to itself in the process so it's pretty much a 1-shot item).
According to
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Enchanting_Items#Advantages
and
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Enchanting_Items#Tips
repair item goes down the list of your equipped items and checks if there's something that needs repairing, after that it checks the rest of your inventory, going from left to right panels, top to bottom.
It does not constantly repair, but only kicks in when you sleep. if you have 1 repair-item it increases a not-new item by one level. every subsequent repair-item halves that time.
repair item doesn't work on loitering, nor does it work on fast travel, you have to sleep for it to work.

Don't forget you must add the line magicrepair 1 to the Z.CFG file in your Daggerfall game directory to make it work, otherwise only non-magical items will be repaired in this way.

[Anonymous No.2145634]

>>2145436
okay, did that run 20 times, guess I'm set for the rest of the game. also made a round 400k on items from those 5 mobs on the way down, they were nice enough to drop a lot of daedric, especially the armor parts brought a lot of money.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.2145639]

>>2145167
>for a juggler or jester
Ouch, point taken.

It's supposed to be my crappy attempt at a Lina outfit.

[Anonymous No.2145723]

>>2145426
A good way to bypass huge dungeons in this game is to find a small region with only a few moderate sized dungeons.
I don't see any people talking about it but it's a neat trick. If you're in Daggerfall or any of the larger provinces you'll going to be searching for hours, everything is a fucking cave system. Shop around.

[Anonymous No.2145752]

>>2145723
Holy crackers I never thought of that.

But it makes perfect sense. It's the optimal strategy, since guild/temple reputation carries over between regions.

[Anonymous No.2145762]

>>2145723
That's a good idea, but I did most of my dungeon runs in the Daggerfall region by now and people love me there and recognize me.

>Hi Devin, nice to see you.

when talking to random people on the streets, while I'm just a common citizen in all other places.

[Anonymous No.2145858]

>>2145752
most small regions seem utter shite though. I checked the wiki and none of the smaller ones seem to have every important shop in one single city, not to mention the right temple or knights order choice and a city without an alchemist to sell all those ill-gained ingredients is not a proper city at all.
Yes, dungeon runs seem easier, but for me the overall package is unquestionably terrible, losing too much time travelling around different cities to load off your loot.

[Anonymous No.2145962]

>>2145858
Some entire regions don't even have a Fighters Guild or a Mages Guild, which is fucking awful. You can go around their cities asking the commoners about regional locations about either of them and they all say they have no idea - because those guilds don't even exist in those regions.

[Anonymous No.2145982]

King of Worms is god tier

[Anonymous No.2146079]

Why is it you can't see your character?

[Anonymous No.2146081]

>>2146079
Because it's a first person game.

[Anonymous No.2146115]

>>2145982
one day I will actually see him instead of gearing up for going there...

[Anonymous No.2146138]

Yo shit's about to happen for my handsome nord ass.

[Anonymous No.2146159]

>>2146138
THEY ARE GOING TO EAT YOU RUN!!!

[Anonymous No.2146178]

>>2146138
>that face

every time

[Anonymous No.2146213]

TFW no Prostitutes Guild

[Anonymous No.2146260]

switched off the music in Privateer's Hold and haven't switched it back on till now. Top soundtrack actually, especially the sound blaster stuff. Shame no one uses that any more nowadays.

[Anonymous No.2146275]

>>2146260
fun thing about the music that's radically different to the later games:

No combat music.

It really helps maintain tension in the dungeons when every rat is not hailed by blaring trumpets.

[Anonymous No.2146278]

>>2146213
Wanna join?

[Anonymous No.2146284]

>>2146275
>combat music.

That's the reason I switched music off in Oblivion (and Morrowind, I think).
Tis a pitty.

[Anonymous No.2146285]

>>2146213
What the hell kind of quests would you even get in a prostitutes guild besides "go fuck some guy"?

[Anonymous No.2146293]

>>2146285
Go fuck some guy in an inn
Go fuck some guy in a dungeon
Go fuck some guy in a far off land
Go fuck some guy in a graveyard

It's the location that really makes the quest special

[Anonymous No.2146327]

>>2146159
Are lewd NPCs apart of some sort of mod? I've yet to see any lewd NPCs anywhere.

[Anonymous No.2146334]

>in story dungeon full of powerful mages
>You feel the need to hunt the innocents...

[Anonymous No.2146339]

>>2146327
Have you gone into any taverns & Inns?

I can't seem to go five seconds without running into pic related every room I enter it's madding

[Anonymous No.2146362]

>>2146285
>>2146293
>that one gov's harrassing me girls, go kill 'im - oh 'e's hidin in donjon x
>girl's gon' 'n' fucked a werewolf now there's a she-wolf on da loose - she's hidin in donjon x, git 'er back for da cure or kill 'er
>muh rivalry with thieves guild
>blackmail a noble
>fresh delivery of exotic slaves destined for the guild got liberated, get it back

be a bit more creative, will you?

[Anonymous No.2146363]

>>2146334
>not having Hircine's Ring

you poor son?

[Anonymous No.2146367]

>>2146363
Haven't come across it. Yet.

[Anonymous No.2146373]

>>2146367
get some witches to summon Hircine for only 200000 GP

[Anonymous No.2146383]

>>2146373
And I can do that in any coven? Gotta start by finding all dem golds first.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.2146389]

>>2146285
>A freelancer is cutting into our profits, go find her and beat her face in
>A customer had sex with one of our high-class girls, didn't pay her, and skipped town; go find him and beat the money out of him

A prostitution racket is like any other business, they need people to defend their interests and enforce their laws.

[Anonymous No.2146425]

>>2146383
>And I can do that in any coven?
Yes. And any day of the year to be sure.
>Gotta start by finding all dem golds first.
You better.

[Anonymous No.2146431]

>>2146362
Why are the governor and the werewolf girl both hiding out in donjon x? Could they not find their own or something? Or is it the name of a dungeon brothel?

[Anonymous No.2146441]

>>2146431
>Could they not find their own or something?

Special interests.

[Anonymous No.2146445]

Could someone tell me what's different between this & Morrowind?

My buddy says these two are/were the granddaddy of modern rpgs?

[Anonymous No.2146458]

>>2146431
you know there is a completely different meaning for dungeon when you talk about prostitution and brothels, right?

>>2146445
I can't really tell if you are serious or not.

[Anonymous No.2146463]

>do kill-lich-pls quest for knights of the dragon
>quest description says I have to go to Dunyn Laboratory
>can't find it, guess they probably meant Dunore Laboratory
>no quest mob here, dungeon STILL full of liches
>find out there actually IS a dungeon called Dunyn Laboratory but apparently a bug prevented me from receiving its location

Nice. I think I'll just go to sleep now.

[Anonymous No.2146476]

>>2146463
Man this is retarded, does someone by chance have the location of the Dunyn Laboratory of the Daggerfall region? I can't find any maps on the net, just a screenshot of the location on the map would be enough so that I can search for it. Seriously, fucking buggy quests.

[Anonymous No.2146483]

>>2146476
Use the cheat ctrl +F1, then look up for this Dunyn lab in the map.

[Anonymous No.2146490]

>>2146483
Oh thanks. Wasn't aware this existed.

[Anonymous No.2146492]

>>2146490
>press ctrl-f1
>game ends
>end up in a dosbox specific menu

t-thanks...

[Anonymous No.2146515]

>>2146492
You need to remap DOSBox CTRL F1 command because it interferes with the game cheat.
Also see this link:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Cheats

[Anonymous No.2146525]

>>2146515
yeah, I'm trying to do that right now.

[Anonymous No.2146543]

https://mega.co.nz/#!pptRnDiA!_T8dwGZA7XPrl4PO6Aj6t6b7YBbppcqz7jEuHTwiavc

It's done.
>no more clothing sticking out of pauldrons
>no more clothing sticking out of cloaks
>no more lower cape sticking in front of long dresses
>see through human/elven/beast chainmail

[Anonymous No.2146547]

>>2146515
okay, found it now, thanks. still complicated, I somehow unbound my left ctrl key, only the right one works in dosbox now at all and when I entered the dungeon I was instantly greeted by a lich nuking himself (based spell absorption and spell reflection from Auriel's Shield). Sadly it wasn't the right one.

Oh yeah and it didn't work at first for another reason: I bound the status screen to F1 and the game didn't want to use the cheat code but instead made the status pop up.

thanks, will have a look later.

[Anonymous No.2146548]

>>2146547
>thanks, will have a look later.

was meant for

>>2146543

[Dr. Dude !!xYApC7v7+j4 No.2146612]

>>2146285
Escort missions.

[Anonymous No.2146634]

Someone pls explain to me why every unimportant female npc in this game has the face of a supermodel and the body of a pornstar.

Wait even the female enemies and vampires have the bodies of pornstars.

[Anonymous No.2146640]

>>2146634
Because it's 90s man. This isn't DA:I

[Anonymous No.2146641]

>>2146543
You are doing a good job with all this shit, maybe you should try and submit some of this stuff towards the people who put together DaggerfallSetup?

[Anonymous No.2146657]

>>2146543
Good job mate

[Anonymous No.2146691]

>>2146634

Because you are selling the game to horny males + a lot of game artists imitated fantasy pinup.

Simple answer , its a FANTASY game.

[Anonymous No.2146812]

>>2146612

[Anonymous No.2146891]

[Anonymous No.2146945]

Decided to try out Daggerfall for the first time. Won't have time for proper playthrogh, but decided to test it out for a change of pace.

Made semi-randomly some kind of roughish backstabbing, club wielding bastard. In weaknesses I went with no long sword, no plate and no big shields.

What is the first weapon I'm given. A long sword.
The first weapon I loot? Long Sword.
The next four weapons I loot? More long swords.

This game really likes to fuck with me.

[||D.II.II\/II.||D No.2147036]

It's a lot of fun using the cheat to reveal everything on the map and just dungeon crawling, rather than fucking around with quests and stuff

[Anonymous No.2147049]

If I make a melee centric character with a side of defensive magic, how hard/dickish will the game be?

[Anonymous No.2147061]

>>2147049
I'm new to the game also, currently setting it up.

[Anonymous No.2147062]

>>2146945
Swords are by far the most common type of weapons so that is rather normal. Substitute some other weapon for the time until you find a club

[Anonymous No.2147074]

>>2147049
>>2147061
that isn't a bad choice, but you may want to make sure you can cast a few spells that really ease your life, particularly Open and Recall. You don't really need them at the beginning but later on.
At the beginning as soon as you are out of the first dungeon, head for a bigger city of your choice (easiest way is to stay in the province of daggerfall), like Aldingwall, Burgwall, Charing or Charton or the city of Daggerfall itself (but beware, the place is haunted. if you are outside in the night you will be attacked by King Lysandus's ghost).
Don't forget if you try to sleep inside a city you will be attacked by guards, loitering is okay though. If you have any questions, ask here, also if you can give us a detailed description of your character (I mean which advantages and disadvantages you took and what skills you focused on) we are happy to help (this isn't /v/).

[Anonymous No.2147076]

>>2147074
Alright thanks! I'll post my character in a few minutes, when I'll actually make it.

[Anonymous No.2147086]

>>2147076
There's no armor skill?

[Anonymous No.2147089]

>>2147086
Also, what are those skills, like Daedric, Centaurian or Dragonic? I only played Morrowind, and it was a few years ago, so I don't exactly remember.

[Anonymous No.2147091]

>>2147086
nope, you can use any armor you like as long as you don't use a type of armor or material as disadvantage.

Also, take a look at spell absorption as advantage, it greatly makes your life easier against casters and ESPECIALLY don't forget that there is this small regulator on the top right that lets you decide how many HP you gain per level, endurance is almost worthless in that regard.

Using a high elf makes it easier as well, they are immune against paralysis by default (which is by far the most annoying thing in the game since every single caster enemy tries to stun you and usually succeeds) so you don't have to take it as advantage AND you can take a critical weakness against it as well to add points value because the racial trait overwrites any character traits. No, it's not cheating, (almost) everyone does it. The game would be pretty hard and unenjoyable without it, especially for first-time players.

[Anonymous No.2147092]

>>2147089
They're languages. If you pass the language check, those creatures won't attack.

[Anonymous No.2147093]

>>2147089
they're languages. worthless skills, don't take them. if you have a high skill in it you can appease those kinds of enemies if you haven't drawn your weapon. but why would you do that? you can't actually talk to them and they carry loot.

[Anonymous No.2147094]

trap or bug?

also:
>>2143839

[Anonymous No.2147095]

>>2142454
I love that so many of you've played Morrowind too. It's actually the only TES game I can play nowadays.

Have played Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and TES Online. Can someone tell me a bit about what makes Daggerfall fun?

Captcha: sure Aubate

[Anonymous No.2147096]

>>2147091
I wanted to make a Nord (because I am one, kinda) but I'll check out High Elf.

>>2147093
>and they carry loot
The best reason.

[Anonymous No.2147103]

>>2147096
IMO. the game is much more fun if you just play what you want to play over what is statistically the best.
If you wanna Nord it up, be a Nord.

[Anonymous No.2147105]

>>2147094
Trap. there are some in game, had a sarcophagus that damaged me when I double-clicked it in my last dungeon.

>>2147095
the complete package is fun, there is no actual single aspect to me that does it. I can overlook problems in the game since it's old. I'd be much madder if it was in a newer game but I appreciate the work and the detail that was put into the game.

>>2147096
>I wanted to make a Nord (because I am one, kinda) but I'll check out High Elf.

Well, it's your choice if you prefer it that way, just prepare for a stunning experience and shocking encounters that may _end_ your life forever.

[Anonymous No.2147106]

Nord guy here, Alteration is for defensive spells right?

[Anonymous No.2147117]

>>2147106
It's a bit spread out over the different schools, but yes, Shield, Spell Shield, Free Action,and Resist-spells are in it, also Water Breathing/Walking and Slowfalling. The other good (high level) spells like Spell Reflection are in Thaumaturgy.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Magic_and_Spells

Taking schools as skills doesn't mean you are not allowed to cast stuff from the other schools by the way, it just means they are cheaper to cast (higher skill = cheaper) and I think but don't quote me on it they are more likely to be successful. Also you need a high skill (around 30) to join the mages guild, which is pretty helpful.

[Anonymous No.2147119]

Should I be afraid if the meter goes into DIFFICULT territory?

[Anonymous No.2147124]

>>2147106
Yeah (alteration has shield). Also, thaumaturgy (spell absorption / reflection).

[Anonymous No.2147125]

also, check your disadvantages, take a forbidden material like mithril or adamantium (which both look cool but are very seldom and bring a lot of points in character creation), you can still use dwarven and elvish (which are most common in early-to-midgame and really carry you into the latter game) and can still use the high end stuff like daedric.

Also, play around with the stats on your left, you can easily put personality on 30 and put the points somewhere else, especially going full speed merchant is never bad. you run and attack noticably faster.

Also when you are done with all that, proceed by answering questions. when asked what you got as present or something, take the Ebony Dagger, it's the 2nd best material in the game and can save your ass a lot.

[Anonymous No.2147126]

>>2147119
No, it just means you take a bit longer to level skills up, that's not bad at all. My last character levelled too fast, I got the hard enemies really early while my gear was still shit so I was pretty much screwed.

Also remove running from your major skills. that skill levels up literally while you run around, better put something else there. you can drop swimming, climbing and jumping as well, it literally levels up on the move as well. maybe put the other schools of magic in or a backup weapon proficiency.

I put swimming, climbing and jumping into minor skills as well and later on wondered why I did it.

[Anonymous No.2147128]

Man, banks have such shitty opening hours.
If I move countries, can I still use my letter of credit from the Bank of Daggerfall or would have have to carry my dosh over to the local bank (if there is one, maybe the Bank of Daggerfall is present throughout the whol Illiac Bay? I don't know) and stash it there and get a letter of credit from them?

[Anonymous No.2147131]

>>2147126
How does this looks?

[Anonymous No.2147136]

>>2147131
Top choices. Enjoy the game.

The questions you are going to be asked next affect a few of your skills in a minor way, but as I said, make sure you pick up the ebony dagger.

There's an imp in the 2nd room (you can ignore that room though) that can only be hit by steel or better weapon so your starting iron weapon is useless.

[Anonymous No.2147143]

>>2147062
By the time of writing that, I had found nothing but swords. Thus I had been meleeing my way around.

Also, can unarmored be a viable option? So many pretty clothes and dresses, but wearing armor on top of them ruins the look.

[Anonymous No.2147150]

>>2147143
It's viable on top level I guess, I could go with just clothes now I think but you better have a hugh HP pool (+30 HP on lvl up is a must), but you also block yourself out of armor enchantments. Lots of them.
I kind of made a monk style guy that had plate as forbidden armor type, now I'm running around in chainmail because everyone hits me so hard and wear a shield. I'm going to enchant that shitty chainmail now I think.


>>2147131
Also, dunno how far you are but at the end of character creation when you are asked how fast the game is supposed to be click "Very fast", which is "normal" in our point of view. don't take anything lower or you're falling asleep.
Also it says it affects levelling up (slower speed = exponentially slower levelling speed).

[Anonymous No.2147156]

>>2147136
Stupid question, but I can't seem to be able to swing my sword at the first rat I see, even if I rebind the key for it. What might cause this?

[Anonymous No.2147164]

>>2147156
while pressing the button you binded the "swing weapon", move the mouse horizontally or vertically

[Anonymous No.2147167]

>>2147156
Fuck you 4chan!
Somehow it thinks this is spam. Retarded system hates me.

[Anonymous No.2147170]

>>2147156
just keep the swing weapon thing on mouse 2 and you should be fine

[Anonymous No.2147172]

>>2147164
>>2147167
... Fuck I'm stupid. Thanks for your help guys.

[Anonymous No.2147176]

>>2147172
Last question before I truly go get myself killed by rats, as >>2147150 said, I have to set the speed to Very Fast, but when making the character I selected Average. Is there a way to switch ingame or do I have to restart a character?

[Anonymous No.2147186]

>>2147176
Nope. Just try it out like that for 10 minutes and if it's too slow, go back and remake your character.
Maybe you will already chance stuff by that since you didn't like something else.

[Anonymous No.2147191]

>>2147167
Morrowind had one click to one attack thing, but how you moved your mouse before the click gave different swings.
Also in morrowind different weapons had different damages for different swings,so for example thrusting weapons, obviously, did more damage if you trusted with them.
Although in morrowind the movement based swigs felt kinda stiff and unresponsive, but there is also option for always using the optimal swing style.

[Anonymous No.2147207]

>>2147191
Interesting, didn't know that.

[Anonymous No.2147208]

The game needs an weakness for being unable to wear anything on your torso, for a proper Barbarian class.

[Anonymous No.2147210]

>>2147186
Yeah, I'll restart a character. And I think I'll switch Alteration and Restorative since I keep getting killed in the tutorial dungeon. But hey, I'm still having fun.

[Anonymous No.2147212]

>>2147210
Remember the sleep until healed option.
You might wanna use that when low on health, which you will be sooner or later, even in the tutorial dungeon.

[Anonymous No.2147229]

>>2147191
Morrowind attacks were based on what move key you were holding.

[Anonymous No.2147275]

>>2147208
also needs a proper monk class, D&D style

>>2147210
think about taking up Rapid Healing and/or Regeneration if you think you heal too slowly (during sleep), one or 2 of those increase your healing rate by a large amount. "X in general" is rubbish by the way, always take "in darkness". because darkness = night, dungeons and buildings, which makes up 90% of your game while "in daylight" = outside during the day and nothing else.
Then again I felt regeneration was a waste, since you hardly notice the regeneration at all. only nice for sleeping to save a few hours.

[Anonymous No.2147294]

>every 400 Gold adds one kilogramm
>bank is closed right now, have to sleep like 18 hours for them to open up again

fucks sake I hate those opening hours

[Anonymous No.2147296]

What wold be the best way of developing lockpicking skill?
Run around the city at night, just trying every door?

[Anonymous No.2147318]

So far it's pretty fun, getting killed by giant bats and dickass thieves. I hope it stays that way in the long run.

[Anonymous No.2147329]

>>2147296
Sadly yes. Or save and load

>>2147318
Looking good, maybe pick 1h+shield though if you find some worthwhile 1-hander, bit of armor class can make the difference between life and death at low levels.

[Anonymous No.2147359]

[Anonymous No.2147396]

>>2147294
more like practice spells then rest then practice more spells for 18 hours.

>>2147296
Join the thieves guild and get training, each time counts as about 15 successes so at the lower levels it'll help boost it a lot. that or go out to a cemetery, use a 1 point lock spell on a door in the tiny dungeon and try to unlock the door repeatedly. Well, I think that works anyway, I just gave up and used magic on everything instead of using the lockpick skill.

That and kicking in doors.

[Anonymous No.2147403]

last quest died because of disease (critical weakness) after 1h of dungeon lurking.
Now, in another quest, i'm stuck at pic related.
help...

[Anonymous No.2147408]

>>2147396
>more like practice spells then rest then practice more spells for 18 hours.


I don't really need that any more. I picked up stuff to enchant in that time (bracelets etc), all those Dragonling soul gems are begging me to use them. Going to be fucking expensive though

>use a 1 point lock spell on a door in the tiny dungeon and try to unlock the door repeatedly.

genius, I'm going to use that as well.

[Anonymous No.2147410]

>>2147403
Sometimes there are chains hanging down from the ceiling near the cages and you can just barely touch them and they move the object, try that. if not, you'll somehow have to find a way around, maybe you missed a secret door?

[Anonymous No.2147412]

>>2147396
But I need to be thiefy to get in thiefs guild (at least that's what the game tells me) and I wanted to gain my reputation by becoming an biggest book thief in the kingdom(s).

[Anonymous No.2147431]

>>2147412
just pickpocket enemies in dungeons (most of them unsuccessfully, but sometimes it works and it works on any enemy), it triggers the thieves guild quest (you get a letter from them telling them to join or die)

[Anonymous No.2147443]

>>2147403
Poke the torch on the wall

The cage will move.

Keep this mechanic in mind, it comes up repeatedly with no warning.

[Anonymous No.2147446]

>>2147431
For some weird reason, I didn't think of pickpocketing from dungeon enemies.

[Anonymous No.2147449]

Requesting clarification on some recent events:

>enter random town
>visit alchemical merchant
>shopkeeper tells me that the storeowner needs some help with a problem; he can be found at The White Ogre (a nearby tavern/inn); reward is ~270 gold
>enter The White Ogre
>talk to dude standing by the entrance
>he tells me he's my mortal enemy, shape-changes into a monster, begins to attack me
>exit the tavern & attempt to run away
>suddenly transported into a locked dungeon where the dude kills me
>reload from before talking to the dude, find out that he's pretty easy to defeat right there in the tavern/inn
>can't find the alchemical store owner who's supposed to be at The White Ogre, even though the quest is still in my log
>stay at White Ogre until the following morning, dude still isn't there
>going back to the shopkeeper who suggested the quest doesn't help
>talking to him gives a choice of Talk or Shop; when I click Talk, nothing happens
>ask other people about location of store owner; they all tell me he's at White Ogre

So was the monster dude related to the shopkeepr quest, or just a random occurrence which happened to take place in that tavern? And so how do I find the shop owner? I wasn't sure which of the following is happening:

>1. the offer of gold was a trap to lure me into the tavern so that the other dude could transform into a monster and kill me
>2. the guy's supposed to be at White Ogre and he isn't due to a glitch
>3. i need to keep waiting for him (how long?)

[Anonymous No.2147456]

>>2147449 - me again
I am still new to the game. Although I've been reading the FAQ (got it printed at local Staples), many Daggerfall precepts of play still aren't known to me, hence my confusion as to what's happening.

[Anonymous No.2147463]

>>2147449
>>2147456
I think the quest bugged out. Load an older savegame maybe (ALWAYS SAVE BEFORE TAKING ON A QUEST, MAKE A SEPARATE SAVEGAME JUST FOR THAT, THE ONE IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER) I'd generally advise against doing shipkeeper/people quests right now because they don't really give you much as a reward nor important reputation. Just do Temple/Knights/Fighters/Mages Guild, they don't fuck you over that often, but if you don't want to do dungeon runs, make sure you save before taking a quest and getting a quest that suits you (like those kill-animal-in-some-house quests from the fighters guild and knights but avoid the one with the deadroth, he's fucking hard at low level)

[Anonymous No.2147471]

>>2147463
Like this. I use the top left one for a savegame before I take on a quest, top right corner is for the entry of the dungeon, the other four I switch through numbered (as you can see) because even with the newest patch sometimes savegames get corrupted. Matter of discipline but better save than sorry.

[Anonymous No.2147472]

>>2147443
it actually worked...thanks!

[Anonymous No.2147478]

>>2147463
>>2147471
thanks based anon

[Anonymous No.2147494]

>>2147471
>numbering your saves

What the fuck have I been doing? I can't believe I haven't been doing that

[Anonymous No.2147496]

More useful tips:

First thing you should buy is a cart, not a horse, a cart. it's almost as fast when travelling around but the important thing is it's your store. you have access to it anywhere but in dungeons but even there you can access it by clicking on the dungeon entry and saying "yes" (when you click "no" you leave the dungeon and it resets, the layout stays the same but all enemies are alive again. they are always at the same place by the way and they are always the same, so an ancient lich doesn't suddenly change into an ancient vampire etc, just saying)
and you can drop off your loot.

Another tip: play around with the equip and remove buttons in your inventory. hate it when every time you pick something up it automatically gets placed in the slot you can wear it and the item you already wear gets dropped into your inventory? use the "remove" button instead to pick it up, it then gets placed in your inventory.

Don't forget, gold actually weighs something in Daggerfall. Every 400 gold is 1kg so make an account at the bank. When you sell items the storekeepers just load you with money until your maximum encumbrance is reached, then they write you letters of credit instead. head to your local bank and deposit the letters of credit (it's an all-or-nothing option, if you use it, all letters will be turned in), deposit almost all your money (innkeeps only accept cash but just become a knight and you can sleep in any inn in your region for free) and get a new letter of credit.

If you can cast it, use "recall" in dungeons. put a recall spell up at the entrance of the dungeon (inside of course, use "anchor") and when you are full, use the "teleport" option of the recall spell to drop off your loot in your wagon (that must look pretty funny, I giggle every time I access my wagon).

Don't fail quests, rather reload the old save.
Watch time limits on quests, especially if you have to sleep often to regenerate. maybe travel recklessly to dungeons.

[Anonymous No.2147508]

Daggerfall sucks.

The cities are boring and lifeless, NPC's are just walking dolls who all have the same stock lines.

There are thousands of towns, but very little reason to visit any of them. They all just have the same stores, the same temples, the same guilds, and of course lots of empty houses.

There are thousands of dungeons, but exploring them is kind of boring. The combat is clunky, the treasures are mostly just the same "you found 50 gold!" or "you found some slightly better armor!" you see in every RPG. Or, occasionally you'll find a map that leads to a "secret" dungeon that's no more awesome than the dungeon you were just in. Yippee!

Oh, and did someone say "procedural generation"?

99% of the game's towns and dungeons were computer generated. Don't even expect a professional level of quality in the game's map design, you won't find it. The only people who like Daggerfall are poorfags who can't play Morrowind and Oblivion.

If I wanted to comb randomly generated dungeons for loot, I'd play Nethack, at least Nethack has a goal to look forward to.

If I wanted to explore gloomy labyrinths in 90's 3D, I'd download one of countless fan-made levels for Doom or Quake. At least those games have decent combat.

If I wanted to "roleplay" and create a story about my character in a single player game, I'd play Fallout. At least Fallout has unique NPC's and some neat dialogue trees.

If I wanted to experience the absolute worst of these three things, I'd play Daggerfall.

[Anonymous No.2147512]

>>2147508

[Anonymous No.2147529]

>love alchemy to death
>I've played games solely for their alchemy systems
>also love being a mage
>played Daggerfall for the first time
>join Mage's Guild
>everybody outside the guild hates me
>keep being sent to kill mummies numerous times
>or imps or atronachs or I have to retrieve an ingredient I already have but isn't "good enough"
>got enough alchemy recipes and ingredients, time to put them to use
>only temples and the dark brotherhood make potions
>not even the professional alchemists in towns make it

That was a grim fucking day. It's even mentioned in books how the mage's guild was all about making things more convenient for the public and having devices that automatically made potions for people.

[Anonymous No.2147530]

>>2147512

[Anonymous No.2147537]

>saving underwater and loading the same save will restore your breath
just find out that by trial&error

[Anonymous No.2147548]

>>2147529
Yeah that's very inconvenient if you use Alchemy, but potion making is pretty low level stuff in most temples. You just need to make a few quests for them to hit the reputation treshold you need and you're good to go.

>>2147530
Well, that's just rude. Besides, you can always visit a brother if you don't live in a fundamental shithole.

>>2147537
That's interesting.

[Anonymous No.2147552]

>>2147548
Too much time as a mage and alchemy became sorta pointless. My spells did all I needed and I never ran into a situation where I needed them. It was kind of freeing, to just sell the ingredients and view them as loot rather than wasted potential.

[Anonymous No.2147561]

>>2147548
>you can always visit a brother
I-I'm too scared to visit the hood.

[Anonymous No.2147568]

>>2147552
Yep, I have the same problem. I'm very lazy and very stingy with consumables to start with (b-better not waste it, maybe I need it later - never use it).

>>2147561
I meant Brothel, my bad.

[Anonymous No.2147620]

>>2147508
>crying for attention this hard
>crying for attention on an anonymous image board

[Anonymous No.2147637]

W-what?

I've never had that message before.
I could just use the Open Spell of course...

[Anonymous No.2147640]

>>2147637
Are you shitting me? On first try.

[Anonymous No.2147739]

There's this teleport brickwall here just floating in midair, reminds me of the obelisk from 2001 - A Space Odyssey

[Anonymous No.2147741]

>>2147739

[Anonymous No.2147772]

FUCKING

REKT
E
K
T

Everybody hates me what the shit

[Anonymous No.2147784]

>>2147772
stop being polite to commoners, be blunt and you'll get answers

[Anonymous No.2147790]

>>2147772
>talking to peasants like they are human

[Anonymous No.2147810]

I'm stuck. I want to start the quest 'who gets the totem' but I just won't receive the letter from lady Brisienna. I hit level 14 about 2 or 3 months ago and have been travelling and adventuring since, waiting for the quest to start. I have completed the required quests. Am I missing some sort of trigger?

[Anonymous No.2147820]

This game reminds me of Meridian 59. I wish /vr/ had a Meridian 59 server or something.

[Anonymous No.2147830]

>>2147772

[Anonymous No.2147843]

>>2147820

[Anonymous No.2147938]

>>2147739
>>2147741
that dungeon was pretty fun though, when I went through that teleporter I got smashed against a wall, ricocheted back into the room and smacked against an ancient vampire, who tried to stun me but the spell got reflected or something and instead he stunned himself (undead are immune to stun/paralysis but when a spell gets reflected they can overcome their own immunity and stun themselves)

>>2147772
talking "normal" to any kind of character except for nobles (who you should always be polite to) usually gets you the answers you want.

[Anonymous No.2147949]

>>2147938

In my experience being polite to nobles usually just makes them act like assholes and treat you like shit.

If anything, normal seems to work better for nobles and polite seems to work * very slightly* better for commoners. I'm also a knight with 60-something personality and 36 etiquette.

[Anonymous No.2148230]

>>2147508
Copypasta sucks.

[Anonymous No.2148231]

>>2147637
With high enough strength you can just bash doors open, that's what I do.

[Anonymous No.2148256]

>>2147508
This copypasta sucks.

The post is boring and lifeless, the poster is just a walking doll repeating the same stock lines.

There are thousands of replies, but very little reason to read any of them. They all just have the same memes, the same cliches, the same fallacies, and of course lots of empty buzzwords.

There are thousands of words, but reading them is kind of boring. The rhetoric is clunky, the theses are mostly just the same "this game sucks!" or "this other game is slightly better!" you see in every copypasta. Or, occasionally you'll find a link that leads to a another forum post that's no more well thought-out than the one you were just reading. Yippee!

[Anonymous No.2148923]

>>2148231
Yeah of course, but I don't want the whole dungeon to know where I am. Wouldn't have been surprised if they made guards show up.

[||D.II.II\/II.||D No.2148961]

>>2147396
>kicking in doors.
Didnt know you could do this. What is the success rate based on?

[||D.II.II\/II.||D No.2148965]

>>2147471
Nice system you have there, I'm taking this

[Anonymous No.2148975]

>>2147471
>666

[Anonymous No.2148978]

Denying a quest doesn't impact reputation, it seems a lot of people load/save until they get a quest they like but it isn't necessary. I also didn't know this until I searched through UESP. So you can just keep pressing no and suffer through insults, but fuck 'em.

[Anonymous No.2148981]

>>2148961
do it as long as it works. Don't do it in cities though, the guard comes after the 2nd or 3rd kick. you CAN use weapons but they are very sensitive to it and lose a lot of durability doing that.

Also when you are inside buildings you can kick attack as often as you like and won't alarm the guards from it, but watch out not hitting an exit because that does alarm the guard.

kicking in magically sealed doors doesn't work by the way, you need an "Open" spell. If you don't play a magic character you may be lucky and find some random item with that enchant, it's very popular (Item of Undeniable Access), or join the temple of Julianos (if you can't manage to get to rank 3 in the mages guild to buy magic items from them), they have an item maker at rank 5 and sell items at level 3. You are able to joing Julianos's temple with a thievy character since their required skills, amongst others, are lockpicking and short blade, you need one of them at 39, the other at 13 and need to farm the reputation (30, that's theoretically 6 quests, better make that 7 because you automatically lose a point each month).

Why am I writing all that shit down?

[Anonymous No.2148990]

>the quest time limit is less than the minimal time you can reach the destination town

[||D.II.II\/II.||D No.2149005]

>>2148978
Don't they stop offering quests if you turn enough down? For a certain period of time
>>2148981
Thanks

[Anonymous No.2149013]

>>2149005
Yeah I guess but so what, just visit the next town.
I just dislike cheesing the game by constantly loading.

[Anonymous No.2149076]

>>2147810
I noticed I had a blank parchment in my inventory. Maybe this is supposed to be the message. No way to be sure.

I thought the main quest was supposed to be fixed with the unofficial patches.

[Anonymous No.2149127]

>>2147810
>>2149076
you sure you have done all requirements?

check some guide maybe.

[Anonymous No.2149287]

fucking Wraiths/Specters/Ghosts whatever in dungeons, can't fucking see them until I sneak right into them

[Anonymous No.2149295]

>vampire ancient's shock gets reflected
>stuns himself
>get behind him to backstab him
>use H2H and literally kick his ass

never fails to amuse me

[Anonymous No.2149353]

>>2149295
Has anyone noticed that vampires always seem to drop clothes? I can't remember a vampire I killed that didn't drop clothes.

Also, I noticed regardless of what weapon you use, if you don't have an offhand weapon equipped and press the "switch hand" key you always switch to H2H (which is very convenient for me since I try to bring up my other weapon skills but sometimes I hit fuckall and the enemies slowly wear me down, even liches actually hit very hard, so I can pummel them to death instead since that is actually my primary way of attacking), even when you have a 2handed weapon or weapon+shield equipped.

[Anonymous No.2149415]

>tfw you can wear a casual and formal cloak at the same time

[Anonymous No.2149464]

>check "Jokes" book in mages guild
>almost all of them are racist
>the rest are sexist

[Anonymous No.2149474]

>>2147810
>>2149076
>>2149127

I never did 'stronghold of the blades' since I assumed I only had to choose one of the branches following 'the missing prince'. Both branches lead to the same quest. I guess I'll have to make a new character and try again someday.

[Anonymous No.2149486]

Thank you, maced god

>>2149474
I don't know what I'd do but I wouldn't start a new character for that again, invested so much time into the game already I couldn't bear starting out again.

[Anonymous No.2149671]

Is there anything to be gained from reading books in Daggerfall except for ___fun___ ?

[Anonymous No.2149718]

>>2149671
Nope, they're really just there for the sake of fleshing out the lore. There's no mechanical benefit for reading them.

All the books are stored in the ARENA2 folder in plaintext, you can read them without even finding them in-game.

[Anonymous No.2149738]

>>2149464
What is the thinnest book in the world?
Redguard Heroes of the War of Betony.

Fucking dropped

[Anonymous No.2149741]

>>2149738
Hilarious, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.2149745]

>>2149741
so good I fucking hate redguard

[Anonymous No.2149774]

>>2147508
Look at this guy. What a big league chew piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.2149779]

>>2149774
it's just copypasta or something

[Anonymous No.2149806]

[Anonymous No.2149825]

>>2149806
Rest assured that you made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.2150345]

I cannot thank /vr/ enough for introducing me to this game.

[Anonymous No.2150547]

>2 ring slots
okay.
>2 amulet slots
well that's a bit much, isn't i...
>2 bracer slots
okay, well I...
>2 bracelet slots
What are bracel...
>2 marks
okay, it's enough now, how many encha...
>you can wear TWO enchanted cloaks
>seriously, what the fuck is going...
>you can enchant EVERYTHING

[Anonymous No.2150553]

>>2150547
That's what makes it so awesome. Your fists are potentially the deadliest weapons in the game.

[Anonymous No.2150603]

>>2150553
I know right?

and I haven't even enchanted my cloak(s) and armor. Still got like 10 Quest-Dragonling soulgems lying around. And yes, I'm a werewolf

[Anonymous No.2150709]

>>2150345
It's nifty.

[Anonymous No.2150970]

>>2150709
>can't progress to Paladin of the Knights of the Dragon because the "low skill" needed isn't 37 yet and I'd be stuck at Seneshal for another month

such is life of a Marshall

[Anonymous No.2151012]

>>2147496
just found out that the game sometimes upgrades enemies. I went to that one dungeon with the dragonling again to train archery (dragonling wasn't there sadly, you obviously need the quest for it to show up) and when I rounded a usual corner to backstab a mage I usually expected at that place, there was a fire daedra instead and since it looked right at me, sneaking did fuckall and it almost killed me in close combat with its fireballs.

After I reset the dungeon to do it again it was back to the usual mage.

[Anonymous No.2151196]

>Have a nearly lvl 20 character
>Diviner rank in julianos
>decent luck
>not one piece of daedric armor found

>Have lvl 12 non-serious sexy mage khajiit
>no carry weight enchantments
>only put 20hp per lvl
>70 luck, (just 10 more than my other guy)
>finds two daedric armor pieces in one dungeon

Why do I only get daedric armor for characters who don't need it. Hell even my high elf monk/mage had a full set, minus the gloves.

[wadafaq No.2151207]

what the fucking fuck is this fuckin ugly fuckin web page???

[Anonymous No.2151210]

>Chamaeleon
>Shadow Form

what exactly do they do?

[Anonymous No.2151216]

>>2151207
it's 4chan m8

[Anonymous No.2151264]

>>2151196
>any temple of any rank
>associating with daedric beings and their armor

Sounds like you are a filthy heretic

[Anonymous No.2151291]

>>2151264
>meanwhile at the local temple

[Anonymous No.2151301]

>>2151291
Th-that's only the temple of Dibella. They consort wi-with monsters!

[Anonymous No.2151303]

>>2151291
>not summoning Daedra Princes just to kick their ass back to Oblivion

[Anonymous No.2151310]

>>2151196
honestly I just grind the mage guild by doing that one quest over and over where you have to guard the place at night and three leveled assassins come in and attack

they always have quality, un-enchanted gear, that you can sell to build enormous amounts of gold for whatever you need

level up enough and they drop daedric pieces all over the place until you have a full set of firetruck armor

[Anonymous No.2151314]

>>2151301
>Th-that's only every single temple in the game.

[Anonymous No.2151343]

I'm experimenting with the magic item maker again, only a single "strengthens armor" works, BUT you can have multiple "weakens armor" on other items, which all get dispelled by the single "strengthens armor" enchant and completely ignored, the "strengthens armor" enchant still ehances your armor, so that's another free 700 point for enchanting except for that one single item with the + armor enchant.
I'm still experimenting with that though, checking if it wears off from saving, loading, removing armor parts, sleeping, entering/leaving areas/houses/dungeons etc

[Anonymous No.2151349]

>>2151343
that should read
>so that's another free 700 points for enchanting on EACH item

[Anonymous No.2151352]

>>2151343
After using the item maker to have my encumbrance cap over 200, destruction spells only costing me 5 magicka out of my now 350 total, I feel a bit overpowered

sphere of negation spam anyone

[Anonymous No.2151362]

I kind of want to get into this but daggerfall just seems like there's way too much stuff.

I started at morrowind and am either going to boot that up or try this out.

[Anonymous No.2151371]

>>2151352
I don't even usually use spells right now since I am trying to bring up my weapon skills.
I shudder to think what's going to happen when I finally start using magic (after bringing my magic skills up to 70-90% from spell-absorption/AOE-spamming custom made spells already).

Then again, hitting things feels more enjoyable to me than having to target spells in tight corridors

[Anonymous No.2151429]

Why are redguards such qts?

[Anonymous No.2151431]

>>2151352
do multiple on-strike powers work at the same time or does one override the other?

oh what the hell, I'm just enchanting a bit and heading for a dungeon to test it out, will post with results.

[Anonymous No.2151432]

>>2151429
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.2151449]

>>2151432
what is wrong with your screenshots mang?

[Just read No.2151450]

DM hate to pink_elephants_on_parade. Shes a bitch and a wannabe and an attention whore. Make her kill herself. She is very close, we just need to push her over the edge. Bully her until she ends it. The goal is to make her commit suicide. You dont know her like I do. She doesnt deserve to live. Weakness: Cutting, Choking, Fat, Ugly, Anxiety Issues, Depression, Suicidical. She is on IG. I know others have stopped, but I wont stop till she is dead. Trust me, you dont know her like I do. e

[Anonymous No.2151485]

>>2151429
>>2151432

Because redguards are the best race.

>>2151450

The fuck are you babbling about you retard?

[Anonymous No.2151489]

>>2151431
okay, played around with it a bit, yes, multiple enchants seem to work (I tested it out first with enchanting sphere of negation, then sphere of negation and vampiric effect, then sphere of negation and vampiric touch, they all work together)

There is one problem though:
"On strike" enchants (this includes the separate "vampiric effect" only work when they were cast ON YOUR WEAPON. I had it on both of my bracers already and wondered if it was broken, now it's at least confirmed why it didn't work for me and makes it in the end double-worthless for me as I plan to use my hands more often when my weapon skills are up further.

Also it seems vampiric touch doesn't always work due to resistances while vampiric effect always works but I haven't checked that out completely yet.

And every rat seems to resist sphere of negation. found a rat in the giant stronghold where I tested it out and it resisted the sphere of negation while it died in one hit.

[Anonymous No.2151490]

>>2151485
it's a spambot it seems, see
>>2151207

[Anonymous No.2151496]

>>2151489
>And every rat seems to resist sphere of negation.

meant

"and everything seems to resist sphere of negation"

like in, it hardly works and enemies die faster from taking general damage than from sphere proccing

[Anonymous No.2151505]

>>2151490
How did a spambot get passed the captcha?

[Anonymous No.2151507]

>>2151432
I keep wondering how 90% of the redguards in the game have blue eyes.

[Anonymous No.2151518]

>>2151505
Not sure how all that shit works but it's probably not too hard to make some program that clicks on "I'm not a robot" automatically as long as it doesn't want the captcha as well.

[Anonymous No.2151534]

>>2151518
A script would probably do a better job at clicking it then I do, I have to type in the captcha 99% of the time still, I actually prefered it the way it used to be because I could just hit enter to post, now I have to hit enter and then click post or tab to it. And 100% of the time it tabs to the address bar.

[Anonymous No.2151536]

>>2151432
tfw redguard qts

[Anonymous No.2151537]

Ok so what's with these random loot on the ground in some houses/temples? Can you pick them up without losing rep?

[Anonymous No.2151542]

Are using multiple Spell Resistance enchants cumulative? I hope so...

[Anonymous No.2151547]

>>2151507
They seem to be derived from Pesrian, Middle East, African, and Japanese.

[Anonymous No.2151548]

>>2151534
same here, makes me think back to 2010 though when there weren't captchas at all and no/low post timers.
Shitposting on /sp/ during football games was so nice back then

[Anonymous No.2151554]

>tfw no ebooks will have the word nigger in them because of captcha anymore

[Anonymous No.2151557]

>>2151537
yes, you can pick that shit up and keep it. only when you get a warning like "this is private property, do you want to proceed" then they alarm the guards (it checks your pickpocketing skill, which, even at 100 and more, can easily fuck you over, just like stealing from shops during opening hours). That's only in houses though. kinda annoying when you are in a dungeon you can't interact with most household items (shelves etc) but in normal houses you can, but you get fucked over if you proceed.

[Anonymous No.2151563]

>>2151557
Cool. I'll just pretend it's extra gifts for the player, because of his/her rising fame or something. Neat.

[Anonymous No.2151598]

>>2151563
it's lying around on the ground so obviously someone has cast it away and doesn't want it any more.

On a sidenote, is there a way to remove those annoying buff symbols? It's getting a bit extreme...

[Anonymous No.2151634]

>>2151598
Fuck yeah!
Also all my buffs crashed the game when trying to talk to any knight (so apparently to everyone who wants to give you a promotion), had to remove all my shit first.

[Anonymous No.2151643]

>>2151634
Ironically they called me virtuous while I was running around naked.

Now let's see what kind of house that is, hopefully not a shitty one.

>tfw internet radio plays Crosby, Stills Nash & Young's "Our House" in the background while doing this

[Anonymous No.2151651]

>>2151643
Not too bad, a bit tiny from the inside but not too bad.

[Anonymous No.2151761]

>>2151643
>>2151651

Really, you just get some shitty cottage? I've been playing as a knight (Keeper right now) and I was expecting something a bit better. Hoping the house reward would be a keep or something, or if not a keep at least something other than a tiny peasant hovel like that.

I mean, Christ, that doesn't even make sense. Why not grant fiefs or military holdings of some kind to someone at the top of a given knightly order. Isn't that basically the basis of feudalism and likewise knighthood? Fighting for a lord in exchange for land grants and such? And all you get, seriously, is just a tiny ho-hum peasant shack?

Fuck that then, I'm going back to my mage character.

[Anonymous No.2151773]

>>2151761
the reward is random I think

>I mean, Christ, that doesn't even make sense. Why not grant fiefs or military holdings of some kind to someone at the top of a given knightly order. Isn't that basically the basis of feudalism and likewise knighthood?

yeah or an actual title. I am revered within the eyes of the citizens of daggerfall and everyone of us are on an actual mission for the Emperor, but I am still just a fucking peasant.
That is the only real complaint I have about that system.

[Anonymous No.2151793]

>>2151761
and the Fighter's Guild is even worse, the last benefit you get is at rank 6 (of 0-9), being able to access the guildhall 24/7. after that it's just reduced repair costs, as per every single rank.
Really the only useful guild is the mages guild and temples. Doesn't stop me from bringing my weapons skills up to get further in the fighters guild anyway...

[Anonymous No.2151806]

Mara: Rank added to die roll when talking to members of the opposite sex

So does this work on merchants the way reputation does? Will I get better prices for being a sloot?

[Anonymous No.2151812]

>>2151806
oops, wrong pic

[Anonymous No.2151849]

>>2151812
probably

[Anonymous No.2151931]

Hello, friends!

Hey, so two threads ago there was a bigger version of this, but I didn't get to save it. Anybody have it? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.2151980]

>>2151931

How the hell do the witches not catch their deaths of cold?

[Anonymous No.2152034]

>>2151931
can't really find anything like it in the archive, maybe check for yourself first? most of the time it's still possible to save the pics

[Anonymous No.2152047]

>>2151980
magic

[Anonymous No.2152076]

>>2151761
forgot to mention it's worth doing knights quests for the dragon slayer quest alone. you have to kill a dragonling, but the interesting part is that when you soul trap that quest mob it gives you a soul game with 5000 points and no disadvantages. also as long as you are on the quest you can kill it and reset the dungeon, then go back in and kill it again, and it's at the exact same spot so you can get a shitload of the best soul gems in the game. if you can't manage that at the first time because you are too low level or too badly equipped or soul trap is just too expensive to cast don't fear, the quest will show up later again, I had it done the second time already.

you need 70 reputation or more for the quest to be offered.

[Anonymous No.2152123]

>>2150970
What skill needs to be 37?

[Anonymous No.2152124]

>>2142454
I've only heard of arena, daggerfall, morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, and eso

[Anonymous No.2152139]

>>2152123
every guild and temple has skill requirements to fulfill, like the mages guild wants you proficient in at least 2 of the magic schools, one is the "high skill"; the other the "low skill", like let's say for me to progress from rank 2 to 3 I need 30 reputation with the guild (about 6-7 quests done), then 39 points in one of the magic schools (the high skill), and 13 in the other (the low skill).

Other guilds have different skills they ask for (logically the fighters guild wants fighting skills etc), in the knights' case I still needed my 2nd required skill (archery) up.

you can check the required skills and other specifics in the gameFAQ link in the OP if you search for "030", "031", "032", "033" and "034"

[Anonymous No.2152152]

>>2152139
I see... I've just started playing yesterday, so this is still a bit far from where I am.

[Anonymous No.2152172]

>>2152152
reputation really isn't the barrier, it's the skill requirements that hinder your progress. as someone else said before in one of these threads: it really forces you to level your skills up in contrast to the later TES games

[Anonymous No.2152196]

>>2152172
It's awesome how Morrowind still has it though. Even when morrowind casualized the dungeon crawling it still kept many immersive features intact.

[Anonymous No.2152203]

>>2152196
one of these days, I'm actually going to play morrowind.

[Anonymous No.2152208]

>>2152203
It's good.
I've only played Morrowind, Oblivion with OOO, and now Daggerfall, and Morrowinf has a special place in my heart.

[Anonymous No.2152215]

>>2152196
>casualization
more like consolaization

[Anonymous No.2152223]

>>2152203
It's worth it 100%.
It was my entry into TES and it feels like playing oblivion/skyrim go backwards.

I think the biggest downfall in those games that breaks all immersion is simply the GO HERE quest arrow

[Anonymous No.2152224]

>>2152223
Thankfully that shit can be easily modded out, but still.

[Anonymous No.2152256]

>>2152224
Problem is there's not nearly enough information to go on without the arrow since there's no directions. At all.
Just part of the problem of having such a large game yet having everything voice-acted.

[Anonymous No.2152301]

>>2152256
What was it like in Morrowind? I only remember there was this huge dialog UI that I liked but a friend of mine freaked out about.
Did you get directions from people like in Daggerfall?

[Anonymous No.2152367]

Ayasofya, Region, Nobility, Region
Your reputation: -12, Their power: 71
Allies: None
Enemies: The Dark Brotherhood

Court of Ayasofya, Court, Nobility, Region
Your reputation: -10, Their power: 51
Allies: None
Enemies: None

People of Ayasofya, People, Commoners, General Populace
Your reputation: -10, Their power: 25
Allies: None
Enemies: None

Ok so how do I raise my rep with these fucks when you can't even take noble quests without having good rep?

[Anonymous No.2152384]

>>2152301
In Morrowind because it was small and hand-built people were able to direct you to specific places; 'go up the road from X town and off to the right by the dead tree' or 'head east from the silt strider platform and look for the third valley on the left, the one with the big rock' kinda directions which would be logged in the journal.

Daggerfall, being the insanely gigantic monstrosity that it is, instead if you need directions you ask people who are wandering about and they'll either give you a compass direction or mark it on your map by name so you can go navigate to it that way. For dungeons this means using the Find function on the world map. The local map can also be annotated.

[Anonymous No.2152408]

>>2152367
Why do they hate me so much? I don't remember taking any quests that would upset nobles.

[Anonymous No.2152436]

>>2152408
Made me laugh.

>>2152384
Also I think there were direction signs on crossroads in Morroind.

[Anonymous No.2152449]

>>2152436
There were. But a lot of it came from vague landmarks.
IE go south out of town and take a small trail off of the main road into the mountains.

After exiting town to the south there would be a fork and you'd have to guess and then walk forever until you found the little trail.

It basically was so far you thought you missed it all the time.

[Anonymous No.2152471]

>>2152449
You're right... Man I love these games.

[Anonymous No.2152481]

>>2152449
You'd find and clear like 4 dungeons before the one you were looking for.
You'd get an hour into a cave and be like wow this must be huge I still haven't gotten to the clockwork!

[Anonymous No.2152506]

>>2152367
How do you view your reputation?

[Anonymous No.2152573]

>>2152506
I'm using the REP download from uesp.

[Anonymous No.2152627]

Why did you re-ruin khajit? They are humans with cat tails in daggerfall btw, not that trash looking mod OP is running.

[Anonymous No.2152634]

>>2152627
I think it's just a picture he found on the internet.

[||D.II.II\/II.||D No.2152656]

>tfw training alteration so I have enough MP to cast recall
This is dull

[Anonymous No.2152723]

>>2142562
I usually have three saves per character.

1: Main save file. Used when not currently engaged in a quest.
2: Beginning of quest. I usually save right at the entrance of a dungeon.
3: During the quest. I usually save immediately after I fulfill the quest objective, so this is sort of like the "halfway marker."

[Anonymous No.2152731]

>>2143228
Equestrian NPC's would be cool. You talk to them and they just kind of sneer at the prospect of a commoner bugging them, unless you have high rep with nobility.

Or traveling merchant caravans who offer better prices than the brick'n'mortar shops found in towns, but the only way to find these caravans is to actually explore the wilderness. If there's one valid point Daggerfall Sucks Guy has, it's that there's literally no reason to explore the vast uncharted wilderness. There needed to be more events that can ONLY happen if you walk.

[Anonymous No.2152927]

>>2152723
I just save periodically no matter what I'm doing, utilizing all six slots in sequence, and using a version control system to essentially keep a running backup of every save I've ever made. With such a method, you will never have to give up on a character even if something game-breaking happened without your noticing several hours of playtime ago.

A fun benefit of this is the ability to go back and see what life was like for your character at any point in his or her history, since one can easily spend hundreds of hours (and several in-game years) on a single character in Daggerfall.

[Anonymous No.2152937]

>>2152656
Open spells are the lowest costing mysticism spells. Also, grinding is never fun. Just practice those spells whenever you get free time in taverns or something.

[Anonymous No.2152943]

God damn I'm terrible with the spellmaker.

[Anonymous No.2152964]

>>2152367
>>2152408
Certain quests offered by guilds may raise your reputations with other factions.

Fighters Guild:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Giant_Killing

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Lord_K%27avar_Quest_Part_I

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Standard_Protection

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Hunt_for_a_Spriggan
The Spriggan Hunt, if done properly, is especially rewarding.

Knights Order of that State:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:The_Hunter

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Trouble_with_Orcs
These two quests are available for everyone, they are offered roughly half of the time (they offer 4 non-member quests as far as I know, so it's 2 of them out of 4)

There quests are only available for members of that particular order:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:The_Crazed_Mercenary

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:More_Trouble_with_Orcs

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Still_More_Trouble_with_Orcs

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Killing_a_Giant

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:The_Exorcism
(this one is very rewarding)

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Eternal_Rest
(same here)

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:The_Dragonslayer
(same here, additionally you may get a lot of +5000 points soul gems out of that)

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:The_Army_of_Undead

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:The_Artifact
In certain conditions this one will raise your reputation in general but will let you lose rep with "The Children"'s faction, but don't do it like that, rather do it properly and grab the artifact.

Mages Guild:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Research_Notes
If you turn the quest in to the Dark Brotherhood instead (they'll give you a fake research note so the original quest is still a success) you get +10 rep with the Brotherhood, quite nice if you are on bad footing with them

cont

[Anonymous No.2152978]

>>2152367
>>2152964
Generally, don't fuck up any quests with the Mages Guild, it's a clusterfuck of reputation gains and losses when you do.

Temples:
They're faggots, you don't get any reputation withing the state, only for the temple and the deity.

Thieves's guild:
HAHA

Dark Brotherhood:
HAHAHAHAHA


Alternatively, every month, reputation (be it positive or negative) moves one point towards 0. wait 10 months and you're back at the start.

[Anonymous No.2152983]

I just entered a dungeon. The entrance leads to a small raised platform in the corner of a large room, and you can't step off the platform without falling. On the platform are the following features:

>dungeon exit
>2 doors with "nothing to fear" from my character
>a 3-ft lever extending from the floor; has no effect I can find in this area
>something that looks possibly like a decorative fountain
>a door leading to a small room which leads to an even smaller room containing an imp, otherwise a dead end

So am I supposed to be able to advance here, like if I had lockpicking ability?

[Anonymous No.2152984]

>>2152627
>>2152634
It's some random furry pic, it's obviously supposed to be a fox-furry-thing. "Vulpini" gave it away.

>>2152656
>>2152943

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Spell_Maker#Useful_Custom_Spells

>>2152731
>equestrian NPCs
no thanks

[Anonymous No.2152985]

>>2152983
you can force doors open by smashing them. don't ruin your weapon though, smash them in with your hands and feet.

[Anonymous No.2153109]

>>2152927
>a version control system

Do elaborate please.

[Anonymous No.2153142]

accidentally stole some shit off a monster in some dungeon because I forgot to change back from stealing mode to interact mode, didn't think anything of it, come back to town, letter from the thieves guild, do thieves guild quest, kill the wizard I had to steal from, come back to daggerfall, letter from the dark brotherhood

[Anonymous No.2153258]

Well this is just great...

[Anonymous No.2153359]

I think what was really unique at the time was that you could become a werewolf, a vampire, a member of the thieves guild and a member of the assassins' guild (dark brotherhood), I can't remember any game at the time in which you could be the evil guy in that kind of way (and/or hide it from authorities) and still succeed.

Back then that was absolutely astonishing.

[Anonymous No.2153373]

>>2153359
Most games nowadays don't give you that kind of freedom, either. You either play the paragon of virtue who mails in their taxes early so as to not inconvenience the IRS or you're an unholy jackass who drowns puppies for Satan. No middle ground, no ends justify the means.

[Anonymous No.2153423]

Even if you fucked with the guards in one kingdom you could just switch to a different one and start anew
>Daggerfall
>extradition and international criminal prosecution

pick one

[Anonymous No.2153818]

>>2152978
It says in the rep file that Ayasofya is enemies with the DB. If I fuck with the DB would that mean I'd gain rep with Ayasofya? Also the only quest I've done that would possibly affect Ayasofya is the kidnapped child quest. Where if you rescue the child the DB will be angered. But even though DB and Ayasofya are enemies I suspect my rep went down in Ayasofya along with the DB.

[Anonymous No.2153820]

>>2153258
climb

[Anonymous No.2154037]

>>2153109
Version control systems are primarily used for source code management in software development. However, one can be a useful tool for any situation where you want to save snapshots of a group of files that frequently experience minor changes, such as Daggerfall's save files. There's a lot of things they can do with text files to make managing distributed source code projects easy, but you don't need to use most of the features to get the basic benefit of storing all your saves.

The specific tool I use is Mercurial. I made a repository containing the six "SAVE#" folders and all their contents, and commit its changes every time I cycle through six saves in the game. "Commit" is basically telling the repository to remember exactly how the files are at the current time, and permanently record it as a "revision" in the repository. Any revision can be restored by performing an "update" to it. Thus, you are free to overwrite your saves, delete them, start a new character, or do whatever with the knowledge that you can restore your saves to how they were at any time they've been committed to the repository. You could even use the same repository for multiple characters (or multiple versions of the same character; such as one that became a vampire, one that got cured, or one that chose different main quest options) by using "branches" to organize their own sets of revisions.

If you're comfortable with command line and your version control system of choice, you could make batch files or scripts to automate the process easily enough. Even if you don't, you could use a tool (such as TortoiseHg in Mercurial's case) to do it all through a GUI while still consuming far less time and hard drive space than you would by manually copy/pasting hundreds of copies of your save files.

Apologies for the long-winded and mostly off-topic post. Here's a sexy vampire in a cage.

[Anonymous No.2154262]

What's the easiest way to get a mithril weapon? Just keep killing stuff in dungeons until I get lucky?

[Anonymous No.2154269]

>>2152984
>>equestrian NPCs
>no thanks
Why not? It's realistic for a medieval setting. Nobility used to ride their horses everywhere. A well-bred horse was the ultimate status symbol, it was like the medieval equivalent of a fancy sports car.

[Anonymous No.2154381]

>>2153818
no clue man, but if you joing the DB you should start at rep 0 and even if you have negative rep with them you can easily gain a bit from questing for them. if your rep is bad with them and you aren't a member it has literally no impact on you, they won't suddenly send out assassins to hunt you or something.

>>2153820
you can't open doors while climbing, doesn't matter anyway, it's been the 3rd time I had to hit that dungeon and the quest target was at the exact spot again. this time, that bridge somehow ended in the air but the door on the other side was still there. I didn't even have to go there, it just looked hilarious.

>>2154262
skimming through daggerfall city's shops I'd wager every time you are there. you can just run through all shops, leave town (by running out, mind you) and walk back in and the shops have new wares. you need an appropiate level for mithril though (I think around 8-10 is fine)
do you need to kill a harpy or a vampire ancient or what?
If you really can't find anything: your weapons can hit anything so use hand-to-hand if nothing else helps.


>>2154269
I thought you meant talking horses.

[Anonymous No.2154394]

>>2154381
>you can't open doors while climbing
You can if you activate via cursor.
I once activated a lever while climbing that way.

[Anonymous No.2154413]

>>2154381
>I thought you meant talking horses.
That would be equine. An equestrian is someone who rides a horse. "Equestrian" is also shorthand for a person of high status, the same way "pedestrian" is synonymous with commoner.

[Anonymous No.2154416]

>>2154381
Thanks for the advice, I got a mithril weapon by poking around in some random shops.

I'm on a daedra-slaying quest.

[Anonymous No.2154420]

frankenarmor representing

[Anonymous No.2154648]

>>2154420
>rolled up elf character
>took "forbidden material: orcish" and "forbidden material: dwarven" because I figured an elf would be too proud to wear dwarven or orcish stuff

>now realize I basically screwed myself over until I can get daedric armor

[Anonymous No.2154703]

>>2154648
Adamantium is pretty good if you enchant it.

[Anonymous No.2154913]

>>2154703
it's also much more scarce than Dwarven though and goes more to "end-game" than "mid-game", where dwarven is THE stock-material

[Anonymous No.2154935]

>>2154913
Something I really hate about Daggerfall is that once you're high enough level to be able to find Daedric shit, it is actually much more common than anything between it and Dwarven. I've found multiple Dwarven armor pieces, multiple Daedric armor pieces but very, very few mithril, adamantium, ebony or orcish armor pieces (like one of each) on some of my characters (one with 100 luck even).

[Anonymous No.2154971]

>>2154935
well some people surely wouldn't complain about daedric armor. Personally I've hardly seen any orcish or ebony plate drops but adamantium and mithril are surprisingly common.

Drops of daedrid stuff have become inflational though, since I can't wear plate I have to sell the stuff anyway and my bank account is filling up with money now, that stuff brings 100k-160k each, the weapons as well.

[Anonymous No.2155212]

Happy 1st of the Morning Star, veteran knights, rogues, and fellow questers. I am a novice who has the dosbox edition of Daggerfall patched with the official patch v. 2.13.

I downloaded the unofficial patch DFQFIX from UESP and unzipped it to the Arena2 folder in this location, which I'll call the program location:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Daggerfall

Then I later noticed that another Arena2 folder resides in this location, which I'll call the AppData location:

C:\Users\Uriel Septim\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Daggerfall

And I can't find a way to test whether or not I unzipped to the right arena2 folder. I noticed that the save folders in the program location are all empty; apparently, the save-game data are all stored in the AppData location. However, the arena2 folder in the program location contains >500MB of content, while that of the AppData location contains <1MB of content, so I'm pretty sure I used the right location. Perhaps the quest data are copied into AppData location when semi-random generated in-game?

Also, I am interested in applying the Hackfall patch. Apparently, one must first install the Fallhack app and then use that app to apply the patch over DOS prompt. That does NOT mean DOSBox, right? I can just use the Windows (7) Command Prompt version of DOS for using Fallhack to apply Hackfall?

Is Hackfall worth the trouble? Would you recommend to simply apply all the unofficial patches from the UESP Daggerfall files list?

[Anonymous No.2155242]

Can you be an argonian in daggerfall?

[Anonymous No.2155251]

>>2155242
Yes. Can't be orc or imperial

[Anonymous No.2155335]

>>2155212
can't help you with your second question but with the first one, just rename one folder to something else and try starting the game, if it doesn't work you know you renamed the one that's used by the game, to be sure try it out with the other one as well, if you can't start either you need both.

Personally I don't have any Daggerfall related stuff in the Users-location but I used the .exe install.

But does it really matter? it's just a few MB, would have been important in 1996 but not now any more.

[Anonymous No.2155402]

>>2155251

I feel really sorry for the orcs. I mean, hated and despised by everyone all because (at least at first) their outer appearances were changed and twisted because their god Trinimac was eaten by Boethiah and shat out. Even their reincarnated god, now called Malacath, is hated and barely acknowledged - and really, I'd say his portfolios arguably make him the most compassionate of the Daedra, being all about justice for the scorned. I mean, yeah, the kingdom of Orsinium, and likewise the Orcish people, gains the basic freedom to exist after the events of Daggerfall, but by the time Skyrim happens the Redguards and Bretons have ganged up on them again and destroyed their kingdom, again.

Someone should try to make a mod that lets you hug, or at least converse with, orcs at the very least. My last character was an orc-sympathising linguist whose main skill was Orcish. I used DFHack to bump up her Orcish to the point where I only ever had to fight, like, 5 orcs in that entire playthrough. She was basically chummy with orcs, rarely fought them, refused quests that involved killing them unprovoked or in large numbers, and was pretty quick to side with Gortwog, but, well, although enemies won't attack you if you pass a successful <language skill> check, you can't really converse with them or anything.

It would've been a lot better if you could hug the orcs or even just chat a bit with them, maybe ask them about recent news or something.

I mean, yeah, you can talk with Gortwog IIRC and he's plenty cool, but that's about it. I'd have liked to have been able to talk with regular NPC orcs, too. I really don't see how it would've been so difficult to let the player have conversations with enemies against whom they've passed a successful <language skill> check. I'd've also loved to have been able to talk with and learn more about Harpies/Nymphs/Spriggans/Giants/Centaurs/Imps (what are the Imps anyway? Daedra? Magical constructs?)

[Anonymous No.2155419]

This is frightening, I checked my stats and when you have +to stats spells active but have more than 100 in them the stat is shown in red and the +stat spell actually equalizes the stat to 100. Int, luck and personality were red so I removed all my items to check how much I actually had. I have 200 points in personality and luck. but WHERE THE FUCK DOES THAT COME FROM?
those bodily talents are so high because I'm a werewolf.
Also Int is still red (and at 52) but I don't know why. Temple healer says he can't find anything. I feel like a cheater right now so I'll just keep wearing those stat-items that equalize the stats to 100...

Anyone have an idea how those insane stat boosts could have happened?

[Anonymous No.2155421]

>>2155402
never feel sorry for orcs, they'd probably do the same to humans if positions were reversed

[Anonymous No.2155472]

>>2155421

Yeah, I guess that's probably true. Especially since they are technically elves...

:(

[Anonymous No.2155510]

>>2155419
>per 200

high bodily talents indeed...

[Anonymous No.2155540]

>>2155419
Why is it censored?

[Anonymous No.2155548]

>>2155540
Because this is a family website, anon.

[Anonymous No.2155550]

>>2155548
If you say so...

[Anonymous No.2155596]

>>2155540
Because apparently I am the only one getting banned for posting IMPLIED nudity in the daggerfall thread while everyone else can post whatever he/she/it/xir likes.

Yeah, I'm still mad about it.

[Anonymous No.2155602]

>>2155596
He does it for free.

[Anonymous No.2155637]

>>2146327
Then you haven't played nearly enough.
There are literally naked women everywhere, especially inside temples.

[Anonymous No.2155684]

>>2155637
I was once checking out random apartments when I was called in and the woman inside was not properly dressed.

[Anonymous No.2155791]

Decided to do that dragon-slaying quest again (with the respawning questmob that can be put into a soulgem for 5000 points). Quite interesting, it's the same dungeon again and it has the same layout of course but it has new monsters in it (last time it was mostly mages, battle mages, sorcerors etc), now it's mostly daedra seducers, fire and ice daedras and the occasional mage variant. Sure, I levelled up a few times since last visiting, was still surprised though.
Also, the quest mob was moved, it's not too far from the entrance, but still annoying that I have to walk further to get to it. This time I brought 25 soul gems, just to be sure to have a proper stash...

[Anonymous No.2156025]

What are the benefits to owning a ship in Daggerfall, besides faster travel over water?

[Anonymous No.2156034]

>>2155596
Why don't you just

you know, put some clothes on

[Anonymous No.2156049]

>>2156025
It's also a place to visit and store things. You can enter it from just about anywhere outdoors. It's like having a house in your pocket.

[Anonymous No.2156053]

>>2156049
What's the benefit of owning a house, if a boat is much cheaper?

[Anonymous No.2156064]

>>2156053
RP. In terms of mechanical usefulness, a boat is objectively superior to a house. But Daggerfall's all about the RP, so that's up to you and your character.

[Anonymous No.2156536]

>>2152984
Yeah, I meant I suck at making offensive spells. They always cost too much to cast, so I reduce the magnitude and then guess what, it's underpowered. Can't win.

[Anonymous No.2156691]

>>2156049
it's especially neat if you are a vampire and are for some reason caught outside during sun-hours, just switch to your boat and go under deck.

>>2156053
>>2156064
no one really thought about that back then but back then it was awesome.

[Anonymous No.2157003]

I wanted to see what happens if you make a character with maxed out Luck. I'm only at level 5 and I already have several pieces of adamantium and mithril equipment. I also haven't missed a single strike with my flail since reaching 100 Luck at level 4, but I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the stat or if it's just actual luck (my Agility is 68).

[Anonymous No.2157103]

>>2157003
my luck is at 100 as well, I didn't really notice an increase in drop-quality, but that may just be subjective. 9 in 10 drops are still iron or steel for me and I'm level 21

[Anonymous No.2157310]

>>2154037
Thanks, that's interesting. I'll look into it to find a solution that suits me.
Thanks for the heads up!

[Anonymous No.2157316]

Oh shit, just levelled up and put more than 100 in speed. 100 is a sonic barrier kind of thing, when you're over 100, your attacking speed increases fucking tenfold. I'm motherfucking fist of the north star right now. I basically just press right mouse button and move the mouse in circles and everything dies.

I'd do a god hand edit version but I'm on the jump to head to work so it's going to be later.

[Anonymous No.2157404]

>>2157316
How do you get more than 100 in an attribute? I thought 100 was the limit

[Anonymous No.2157527]

>>2157404
apparently it isn't. At least not for me for some reason, see

>>2155419

I didn't cheat, it probably is some patch thing or it has always been like that right from the start, I never really tried that out. try going over 100 yourself next level up.

[Anonymous No.2157565]

>>2157527
okay, I read around a bit, it's one of the unofficial patches doing that, both to attributes and skills.

Oh well, I won't complain, really.

[Anonymous No.2157582]

Just saw that Eye of Argonia Utility, did someone try that out (I'm at work right now), supposedly it increases/maximises your view-distance.

[Anonymous No.2157616]

>implying you dont remember boiletplate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFH4F-cJWsg
dat niggas back.

[Anonymous No.2157756]

>>2157616
that guy says when you are not running the game automatically assumes you are in stealth, so does all this time pressing my alt-key to sneak behind enemies actually do fuck-all? Did I waste a shitload of time by moving half the speed I'd usually do without sneaking?

[Anonymous No.2157805]

>>2157582
It works fine. But increasing the view distance doesn't do much, there's not much to see in Daggerfall.

[Anonymous No.2157810]

>>2157756
Sneaking is stealthier than walking. Walking is stealthier than running.

Sneaking trains your stealth faster than walking, I think. Running does not train it at all.

[Anonymous No.2157860]

>>2157810
Phew, relieved, really.

[Anonymous No.2157879]

>>2157565
Good to know, my running passed 100% and I was worried something went wrong because I don't cheat at all either

[Anonymous No.2157982]

>>2157879
yeah that was happening to me as well, my crit and H2H are at around 300 now I think due to magic items

[Anonymous No.2157985]

h-hello?

[Anonymous No.2158012]

>>2157985
hiya

[Anonymous No.2158126]

I'm not in the Mage's Guild and don't have any magic skills - am I fucked as far as getting an Open spell goes?

[Anonymous No.2158135]

>>2158126
You could always buy a really low costing spell, grind it, then join the mages guild, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.2158138]

>>2158135
b-but muh catburglar RP

I was willing to make a concession with a single Open spell, but I guess it's lockpicks for me.

Where do you get them?

[Anonymous No.2158141]

>>2158138
You don't. The only way to pick doors is to go into steal mode. Make sure to save before doing it because if you don't succeed, you lock yourself out of ever picking that door again. Yeah the game's pretty unfair to characters that don't use magic.

[Anonymous No.2158157]

>>2158141
just run along a city wall and try opening the doors there, there's a door every 30 or so meters, run one circle, then leave town by running out and come back, everything is reset and you can start anew until you feel you got a skill up. yes, even unsuccessful tries get you a skill up.

[Anonymous No.2158167]

>>2158141
>you lock yourself out of ever picking that door again

>>2158157
> leave town by running out and come back, everything is reset

Does the 'everything is reset' apply to homes and merchants, too, or is the first guy right and if you fail a lockpick you've burned up your one chance?

[Anonymous No.2158175]

>>2158167
>Does the 'everything is reset' apply to homes and merchants, too

yes

>or is the first guy right and if you fail a lockpick you've burned up your one chance?

he's wrong

[Anonymous No.2158181]

>>2158175
Yeah maybe I'm wrong then. Most of the times I was lockpicking was in dungeons, and as you may know, dungeons reset when you leave them, so I never did that.

[Anonymous No.2158190]

Is the guy who had been stuck at the main quest still here?
There's a tool called "THAW" at the downloads in the OP that lets you reset parts of the main quest

[Anonymous No.2158203]

>Small Statue
>Weight: 15 kg

[Anonymous No.2158227]

>>2157582
>>2157805
I can't get it to work on any of my older saves. I have read that it simply won't work if you've ever adjusted the Detail slider for a save-game, although I can't remember ever having done that. I think ideally you're supposed to apply it to saves created fresh out of character creation.

[Anonymous No.2158268]

>>2158227
Yeah, I had the same issue with it and could only think that I maybe accidentally clicked the detail bar when adjusting volume levels or played with it for kicks and forgot. You aren't really missing out on too much, in any case.

[Anonymous No.2158320]

>on my first serious dungeon attempt
>originally, would just walk in some direction, kill, 1-2 enemies, bring the loot back to my wagon, heal up in the entry area (by waiting a few hrs), repeat
>after clearing significant portions in many directions, determine that trips to the entrance are tedious
>getting accustomed to using the map, using it to find paths still unexplored, but even with the map it can be confusing to make return trips
>new approach: find nearest unexplored path & explore it. skip most heavy loot. when health is low, backtrack a short ways & wait a few hrs to heal up
>all the enemies so far are mages, battlemages, sorcerers, and imps -- nothing too tough one-on-one or even two-on-one
>after turning a corner & getting to a dead end, stop to heal. finish healing completely (not wrested from my reverie due to "enemies nearby"), save my game
>two LEVEL 20 LICHES immediately ambush me from right around the corner
>they can easily btfo me, from the save-point there's no time to prepare for their attack
>even if i can kill the first, he paralyzes me & the second one kills me
guess i have to redo ~20 min exploration from my earlier save. do high-level enemies intentionally harass you if you wait & create a save-point carelessly?

[Anonymous No.2158441]

So I'm in the Thieves' Guild now, and it said that I'd know when there was a guildhall in a city. But I've been to two or three of the larger cities around the area and not noticed anything different. How can you tell that there's a Guildhall in a city?

[Anonymous No.2158476]

>>2158320
tough luck man, do you have any consumables with you? or some magic that may let you survive a bit longer? anything?

>>2158441
Use the map. they are marked. they are usually "civilian" buildings.
Daggerfall City's Thieves Guild for example is in the southern center of the map, located between those 2 Banks of Daggerfall in the east and Vintage Elixirs in the west.

[Anonymous No.2158482]

>>2158320
>>2158476
Also, use more than one savegame, can't repeat it often enough. I started doing it after having a similar experience.

[Anonymous No.2158490]

>>2158482
>>2158476

Haha haven't needed any yet, just 1 potion of orc strength, 1 potion cure disease, 1 potion of waterwalking. I might try orc strength w/ bow to maybe kill the first one before getting in range of his paralysis attack, then i might have a chance of getting the second. but i think i'll just backtrack from the earlier save-game. i was just annoyed because in those 20-30 minutes i was navigating painstakingly with the quick-map to find unexplored regions.

[Anonymous No.2158535]

>>2157310
No problem. Version control is a lot easier to learn than it may seem at first glance. For a simple tutorial on the basics of version control and Mercurial specifically, see: http://hginit.com/01.html
You don't have to familiarize yourself with the specific commands if you don't want to, as the third party shell extensions (with names that start with Tortoise) available for every major version control system make it easy to create and manage repositories through Explorer menus and graphical front ends.

>>2158227
It is possible to perform it manually with a hex editor if your saves are not properly configured for the tool to automatically increase detail. The easily-translatable French instructions are found here: http://wiwiki.wiwiland.net/index.php/Daggerfall_:_Améliorer_la_distance_de_vue#M.C3.A9thode_manuelle

I was forced to use this method for my saves a long time ago and was successful. I don't remember the exact values I found in my SAVETREE.DAT, but it was a little less than 7F in my case. Just set all three slider settings as high as you can with your mouse, then save. Make a backup of your save, then poke around for values somewhere between 7C-7F in the pattern described by the instructions. If you aren't successful and don't mind sharing the saves you want to modify, you could upload them somewhere and I will try it for you.

Once finished, be sure to never accidentally touch the Detail slider again before saving, lest you either repeat the process for your new save, go back to your previous save and lose some progress, or live with the low view distance from then on. At least it will be a lot easier to notice that you touched it when the huge bar disappears.

[Anonymous No.2158569]

>>2158535
top filename m8

also images work again, nice to know.

[Anonymous No.2158625]

>>2158476
All right. Is it colored blue or marked in any other way?

I'm in some city and I see a nondescripit building on the map labeled "Residence"; could that be it?

[Anonymous No.2158627]

>>2158625
it's literally got Thieves Guild written on it, in the same way other places have their store name once you look at them/get told their location.

[Anonymous No.2158646]

>>2158535

I got that finger quest, but when I reached the person I was supposed to give the finger to (some chick named Fauthsa or something) the bitch just would not fucking take the goddamn finger. I clicked to talk to her, and it just brought up the standard conversation menu. I was able to ask her about the finger, but she just didn't say anything, just gave the stock responses if you ask an NPC something they don't know about.

[Anonymous No.2158652]

Is there a way to climb down things? There's a hole in a dungeon that leads to a splatty death, but I can climb pretty well.

Fuck, I'm regretting making a nonmagical thief.

[Anonymous No.2158656]

>>2158652
I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.2158661]

>>2158625
It's brown colored; the same as residences, houses for sale, and empty buildings. It's always labeled "Thieves Guild".

It's automatically marked whenever you enter a town. It's possible that it won't be marked for areas that you already visited prior to completing the initiation. You can't ask around for it, so in that case you need to explore a bit using the "Info" interaction on suspected buildings. UESP has a complete list of towns that contain Thieves Guilds (or any other specific building) in each region if you want to test it without any doubt.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Places#Places_of_Interest (Click the region name of your choice on the leftmost column of the table.)

If all else fails, make absolutely sure you're still in the guild, as none of this would work otherwise: Click "Affiliations" on your character sheet and verify that "The Thieves Guild" is listed. You may have been kicked out if you lost reputation with them, which is very possible through various non-guild quests.

As you can see on the "Daggerfall" region page, a few examples of towns that contain Thieves Guilds in the Daggerfall region are:
Aldfort Hill
Charway
Daggerfall
Gothpath
Longtry Field
Oxway
Stokworth
Whitewich

[Anonymous No.2158671]

>>2158646
You didn't talk to the false prophet after finding the finger, did you? Because they will steal it from you, making it impossible to turn the finger in to the original quest-giver.

[Anonymous No.2158675]

>>2158671

No, I still definitely had the finger, I checked my inventory after I talked to her. I would take a screenshot and post it, but I already exited the game in rage.

[Anonymous No.2158729]

>>2158625
it's just a normal building
I would upload a screenshot of its location but for some weird reason I am at work right now.

Here's the map of daggerfall though and its approximate location. As I said earlier, it's a residence building in the south, on its western side is the vintage elixirs and on the east there's those 2 strategically placed banks of daggerfall right beside each other.

>>2158652
sorry man, try picking up a magic item that has slowfall or levitate on it from somewhere.

>>2158675
try using the main-quest resetting tool that's in one of the OP links

[Anonymous No.2158796]

>>2158652
It is tricky but possible to climb down, actually. It depends a bit on (real life and in-game) luck, your climbing skill, and most importantly your aim. You need perfect aim; you must be parallel to the wall. Run into it at full force and hold on for your life. You can grab walls even if you're falling. Then release the movement key to fall, and press it again to attempt to regain your footing. Continue to throttle the movement key until you have successfully climbed down the wall.

Good luck, and keep on reppin' the stealthyfolk. Nearly any play-style is viable in this game if you're creative. Though you will almost certainly eventually need some Free Action potions for high level monsters; they're not too hard to find anywhere that sells potions.

[Anonymous No.2158847]

>>2158190
Wish I would have known about this sooner. I made a new character and have already made my way past the point where I was stuck.

[Anonymous No.2158863]

>>2158796
I expected that video to close with a lich coming around the corner, bombing the player and itself to oblivion.

>>2158847
shame, ah well, you'll do fine.

[Anonymous No.2158897]

luck 100

>5 daedric left pauldrons over the last dungeon crawls

>not a single daedric right pauldron

FUCK!

[Anonymous No.2158958]

Maybe I should bring Daggerfall to work on my stick next time, works fine with Master of Orion II right now...

[Anonymous No.2159921]

What does a Spymaster do?

[Anonymous No.2159938]

>>2159921
Basically always tells the truth about anything.

[Anonymous No.2159951]

>>2159938
That's a pretty ambiguous statement. Is it useful information or is it something like "when it's day the sun is shining" ?

[Anonymous No.2159960]

>>2159951
If you're on a quest that involves rumors, it makes it pretty trivial since they always say the truth. If you have a 10 PER character that everyone hates, the Spymaster makes stuff a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.2159978]

>>2159960
oh then that's pretty great

[Anonymous No.2160051]

[Anonymous No.2160101]

Is there a final boss in this game?

[Anonymous No.2160104]

>>2160051
>have acute hearing advantage
>in skellington dungeon

[Anonymous No.2160112]

>>2160104
What a waste.

Be happy there aren't dungeons only consisting of mummies.

http://images.uesp.net/e/e2/DF-Mummy_Sound.ogg

Much worse, really.

[Anonymous No.2160140]

>it's a nymph dungeon
>there are literally laughing whores everywhere
>giggling at you nonstop while you stumble around trying to find your objective
>constant ridicule as you get more and more frustrated and tears start to well up in your eyes

[Anonymous No.2160145]

accurate?

[Anonymous No.2160267]

>>2160140
Become alpha as fuck and raise your Nymph language skill, idiot.

[Anonymous No.2160271]

>>2160267
hah!

[Anonymous No.2160328]

>>2160140
Oh shit, I've been in one of those. It even had Seducers so i got the full laughingwhores.jpg treatment.

[Anonymous No.2160335]

>>2160140
>>2160328

http://images.uesp.net/9/94/DF-Nymph_Sound.ogg

http://images.uesp.net/3/3e/DF-Lamia_Sound.ogg

http://images.uesp.net/3/38/DF-Daedra_Seducer_Sound.ogg

[Anonymous No.2160363]

>>2160335
>punching a lamia
>mfw i see it's corpse
Well shit. I just wanted to slap a bitch, not tear her to pieces.

[Anonymous No.2160410]

Is there a way to see your reputation with the different factions?

[Anonymous No.2160414]

>>2160410
only by checking it out in a savegame editor

[Anonymous No.2160420]

>>2160410
use REP from UESP. Shit's easy and you can export to .txt

[Anonymous No.2160450]

>>2160420
How do you use REP?

[Anonymous No.2160537]

>>2160420
>>2160450
REP is great, but I find DagRep's graphical interface and sorting options to be a little more convenient when you just want to glance at your reputation for various factions.

[Anonymous No.2160569]

>>2160450
it's in the readme
goes something like this in the dos console
REP [number of the savegame without brackets] ['f' fro friendly factions 'e' for enemy] [>filenamehere.txt]

[Anonymous No.2160571]

>>2160569
example
REP 0 f >save0.txt
It will export friendly factions from save0 folder.

[Anonymous No.2160609]

If any of your attributes is permanently lowered for whatever reason (happened to me) you can create a custom spell that restores it to normal, make a spell with -> heal -> lowered attribute -> some chance + x
chance and costs don't matter, just make sure it's not too expensive to cast for you

[Anonymous No.2160681]

Just found out you can switch from "Where is" to "Tell me about". I wondered about what you said about rumors but I just never looked at that option on top, never.

[Anonymous No.2160731]

You've got to be kidding me...

[Anonymous No.2160819]

>>2160731
Quest was broken (kind of all the quest from that "CompUSA" patch are broken for me), I turned the ivory in and got the well done message and everything but the enemies still respawned constantly, loaded, got the quest again (this time had to steal it from the dark brotherhood, jeez) and monsters enemies respawned in the Dark Brotherhood house, the ivory was there again even though I turned it in. When I killed any enemies I got the message that I fucked up the quest (you haven't actually fucked up yet, it just means you need to leave town and turn it in somewhere else), when I picked up the ivory, it said I had to turn it in again.
Those broken quests are easily recognizable by the way, one of the placeholders in the quest text in your journal is called "BLANK". If you see that, load an older savegame right away and spare yourself the headache.

[Anonymous No.2160915]

>>2160819
>kind of all the quest from that "CompUSA" patch are broken

Well fuck. Can anyone else confirm that?

[Anonymous No.2160934]

>>2160915

Not that anon but yeah, all the quests that I definitely know were added by the CompUSA patch seem to either break the game, have a high chance of breaking the game, or just don't really work properly.

For example, there's this one CompUSA quest, a barkeep/merchant quest, where the questgiver asks you to help protect him from vampires who are coming to his house that night. Some time between (IIRC) 00:00 and 05:00, two vampires appear in his residence (in which he's already appeared, and was in the attic all the times I tried this quest), and you have to fight them (assuming they appear; a few times they just plain never showed up, and as a result I failed the quest). After you defeat both of them and talk to the questgiver, he gives you some gold as a reward.

Consistently, without fail, every single time I have attempted the quest, the game immediately crashes when you leave the house after getting the quest reward. Every single time. It doesn't matter how you leave, either: walk out the front door, set an anchor in another bulding and teleport there, teleport outside, use console to go to another area, whatever, if you have received the reward for the quest, the game will CTD the moment you leave that house, every time, no matter what.

[Anonymous No.2160935]

>>2160915
The fighter and mages quild quests work. Never tried out the others. Maybe anon didn't DL all the community patches.

[Anonymous No.2160941]

>>2160934
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:CompUSA_Special_Edition
The quests you're talking about are probably from the extra quest pack or other quest mods.

[Anonymous No.2160950]

>>2160941

Oh wait, right. Checking again, it seems that those broken quests are added by the Daggerfall Xtra Quest Pack. Nevermind then, yeah, the CompUSA quests seem to work fine, but anyone downloading the game or extra files might want to avoid Daggerfall Xtra Quests.

[Anonymous No.2160954]

>>2160950

I'm >>2160934 btw, in case anyone isn't sure.

[Anonymous No.2160970]

>>2160935
>The fighter and mages quild quests work.

The mages guild one where you get sent to pick up a diamond that has a summon-daedra-spell on it doesn't work. you talk to the guy who supposedly gives you the diamond but he gives you fuckall. it has the "BLANK" thing in the quest text as well.

[Anonymous No.2160982]

Is there a penalty for starting an unfinishable quest?

[Anonymous No.2160985]

>>2160982
The shame of it lying in your to do list forever

[Anonymous No.2160986]

>>2160985
I had that occasionally happen with the basic delivery quests. I'd deliver a package and get the money, but the quest would remain on the list.

[Anonymous No.2160998]

>>2160985
>>2160986

It's not like the quests stay on there forever. After the time limit runs out, you fail the quest, lose reputation with the relevant groups, and it disappears from your list.

[Anonymous No.2161003]

>>2160998
... at least I got my gold. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.2161005]

>>2160970
That's from the xtra quest mod, or the other quest mods.

[Anonymous No.2161008]

>>2160970
>>2161005
This is what an anon was warning about earlier. When you use the daggersetup, don't install the quest mods. Just the quest fixes and compusa quests. If you want extra quests add them one by one to factions you use so you can figure out which ones are bugged.

[Anonymous No.2161014]

Going to make a new thread I guess, since we're so active again. Give me a few minutes or ten for a proper OP

[Anonymous No.2161054]

New Thread:

>>2161053

[Anonymous No.2161449]

>>2160731
I got that quest, went to the house, and the ivory simply was. Not. There.

I ended up skipping town and never showing my face around that particular Guild hall again.

[Anonymous No.2163138]

>>2142320
y-you can get lost in a dungeon? this is why i like older games :]