Gentlemen. How do we fix this site?

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Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:17:03 2014 No.2132381 [Reply] [Original]

Gentlemen.

How do we fix this site?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:18:14 2014 No.2132382 By going to >>>/v/ and posting it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:18:48 2014 No.2132383 It doesn't need to be fixed. HG101 has always been a great site. If anything, it's gotten better. no bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:19:35 2014 No.2132384 File: 103 KB, 682x600, laughing man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132383 >great site.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:21:28 2014 No.2132387 >tfw /vr/ turns more like /v/ every day Can we go back to when this board was good? Shitposts like this are only killing decent threads at the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:23:21 2014 No.2132391 >>2132387 Better idea. Can we do that without being elitist fuckwads like you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:29:35 2014 No.2132396 whats wrong with hardcore gaming 101?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:31:34 2014 No.2132398 >>2132396 Nothing if you stay away from the forums and reviews. The general articles seem handled by people that genuinely love the medium. Guess its just an edgy OP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:31:45 2014 No.2132401 >>2132396 Rushed articles written by amateurs. Errors. Shitty editorialization and shitty reviews.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:35:07 2014 No.2132404 >>2132401 As opposed to every other retro-gaming site ever?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:36:52 2014 No.2132405 >>2132387 It's just the weekend. More /v/-style posters come in from Friday-Sunday for one reason or another. By now we're all used to it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:39:15 2014 No.2132406

That Haiku RPG was absolute shit, and their blog and kusoge features are sorta hit-and-miss, but I liked their article about Korean gaming. I feel their pages on Goemon, Parodius, Wonder Project and Mischief Makers are pretty cool, too - and the way they cover more obscure games is refreshing, especially compared to other sites. Most of the writers seem to know what they're talking about. Never went to the forums, though, and I haven't seen their Game Center 199X or whatever they call it.

I feel like >>2132398 has it right.

Just my opinion. If there's a major problem they have that I haven't seen, someone can tell me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:42:45 2014 No.2132409 Hey, I really like that site.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:47:15 2014 No.2132413

>>2132396
This. Forums are a bit of a mess sometimes and the quality of the articles vary (from god tier to the point of blatant misinformation/bias), but overall it's a wealth of information and a pretty great site, and I'm glad its still around. (remember classicgaming on GameSpy?)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:53:34 2014 No.2132418 >>2132413 >to the point of blatant misinformation/bias) such as?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 09:56:23 2014 No.2132421 >>2132398 >Nothing if you stay away from the forums and reviews You can, and should, apply that to pretty much every single site out there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:04:48 2014 No.2132431 Never heard of it. Does it have some super secret roms that can't be found anywhere else? Or is it a..pfffft hahaha..journalism site?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:06:23 2014 No.2132435 >>2132431 It's generally a site with articles about various games, some obscure. Kind of a hobbyist type site, outside of the reviews, which are ignorable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:20:01 2014 No.2132439 >>2132418 Madou Monogatari sticks out in my mind as something that sounds like it was written by a 12 year old from /v/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:32:41 2014 No.2132447 I wrote an article for them recently after visiting the site for years. They paid well and were easy to work with

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:36:45 2014 No.2132457 Does that Dragon Quest VIII article still exist? That one's pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:52:11 2014 No.2132469 I would make a site like RetroRGB and VideogamePerfection but I don't want to give even more people the information they need to outbid me on eBay. Not at least until I have all the equipment I want.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:57:22 2014 No.2132473 >>2132447 Which article?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 10:58:22 2014 No.2132475 >>2132457 http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/dragonquest/dragonquest8.htm I've never played it. So what's wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 11:30:02 2014 No.2132512 >visiting the forums I see nothing wrong with everything else though. Maybe you should stop being too much of an elitist. Not everyone has the same tastes, and there's not one site that's perfect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 11:39:04 2014 No.2132527 Only read a few articles but it seems alright to me. I liked the Wizardry one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 11:58:12 2014 No.2132546 It's informative re: comprehensive listing of ports and obscure games. Much of it is opinion, but you get that everywhere. I especially like the side by side comparison screenshots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 12:00:53 2014 No.2132550 >>2132475 not that one http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/dq8.html

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 12:04:20 2014 No.2132557

>>2132447

I've been sitting waiting for my latest article to be posted and they've been dragging their feet moreso than usual. It only needs like 4 comparison screenshots I couldn't nab, but still waiting.

Worried it's due to some things posted on twitter, since we follow each other.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 12:11:02 2014 No.2132561 File: 30 KB, 117x125, 00172848.0001.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132550 > Dragon Quest is more or less the Halo of JRPGs Please tell me this shit is just being facetious

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 12:12:06 2014 No.2132563 >>2132550 That was a great April Fools.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 12:14:07 2014 No.2132568 >>2132561 Yes, do you know how old that review iss?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 12:16:05 2014 No.2132569 >>2132561 I think the point was mainly to poke fun at Icycalm.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 12:38:36 2014 No.2132586 >>2132569 Maybe, but when was the DQ8 article written? It seems more like a ~2004 piece than something recent, and Icycalm wasn't notorious at that point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 14:42:52 2014 No.2132792 >>2132418 The Chrono Trigger article is a famous example

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 15:58:08 2014 No.2132896 Who is "we"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:06:04 2014 No.2132913 >>2132384 yeah i know, a couple articles like the ff6 one are shit only the forums are truly terrible really

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:08:12 2014 No.2132917 >>2132418 they said in their kusoge page that idea factory was so bad it was nicknamed idea fuck in japan, which was bullshit, now everybody calls them idea fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:11:37 2014 No.2132925 >>2132387 >tfw I went back to /v/ at 1am and everyone was way more friendly, chill and knowledgeable than /vr/ was being at the time Must be a time zone thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:14:49 2014 No.2132931 >>2132792 >go to chrono trigger article >first line is: >RPGs weren’t cool during the 16-bit era. Check, please. Now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:16:57 2014 No.2132938 >>2132931 its not exactly wrong, you know there was zelda, mana, final fantasy and thats it

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:20:03 2014 No.2132950 >>2132401 >articles written by amateurs. No fucking shit. Who else is going to write about decades old games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:20:22 2014 No.2132951 >>2132418 The Renegade/Kunio-kun review was pretty awful. Most of it consists of Kurt/discoalucard bitching about how much he sucks in the game and how it doesn't play like Final Fight, despite coming out three years earlier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:20:56 2014 No.2132952 >>2132950 yeah it´s not like professionals are much better

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:34:03 2014 No.2132979 >>2132931 16 bit era rpgs left a lot to be desired. Wasn't until the 32 bit generation where there was enough cheap storage space and processing power where you started seeing more diverse game designs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:38:56 2014 No.2132994 >>2132938 >>2132979 >What's Phantasy Star? >What's Ogre Battle? >What's Breath of Fire?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:42:28 2014 No.2133000 >BoF4 article Euthanasia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:49:51 2014 No.2133012 Even if you hate the website, are there actually any other options for this sort of content?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 16:55:31 2014 No.2133025 >>2133012 Game Catalog is pretty good if you understand moonrunes. http://www26.atwiki.jp/gcmatome/

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 17:00:13 2014 No.2133029

>>2133012
I'd rather have a general description of a game and to whom it would appeal to; a lone influential opinion for a game can dissuade/persuade individuals from trying it for themselves, either because it seems like crap or the game's quality becomes a given. Including a personal critique with a game's overview is sneaky business IMO.

>>2133025 is a great wiki, especially for some of the lesser-known Japanese computer games not covered on HG101.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:01:23 2014 No.2133031 How do we fix your autistic attitude?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:09:09 2014 No.2133045 >>2133025 really cool site, thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:14:41 2014 No.2133051 >>2133025 >Daikatana was on the N64 and GBC You learn new and horrifying things every day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:19:49 2014 No.2133058 >>2132792 The entire first section is so pointless, badly written and boring that I imagine many readers give up before reaching the end of it. The head editor (whoever that is) should never have approved it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:46:18 2014 No.2133097
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>>2133051
The Game Boy version is actually fun because it's completely different. It's a top down action RPG. I believe it was all Kemco's baby and Ion Storm didn't really touch it. It isn't extraordinary, but it certainly doesn't deserve the name Daikatana and it could have been fondly remembered by people if it was just called something else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:49:10 2014 No.2133103 >>2132381 Well there's a lot of problems but mostly it's centered around anonymity breeding contem-oh, you're not talking about THIS site.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 17:51:53 2014 No.2133109 >>2133103 A passive-aggressive HG101 fanboy detected.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 17:56:17 2014 No.2133120

>>2133109
Inb4 Joseph Joestar.

Also, here's the secret Legend of Heroes series WIP Kulata hasn't worked on in a while: http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/loh/loh.htm

His opening statement about Japanese PC developers undergoing mass exodus to consoles isn't accurate. The most popular soft houses moved, but the rest, whether or not they deserve their obscurity, either continued computer development or disbanded altogether. Some just dabbled in console sales for a time, or supplemented their computer development with console sales.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:02:15 2014 No.2133130
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We can fix it by contributing to it is my guess.

I've run into very few horribly written articles, probably because I generally look there for more obscure titles and not for games I already know a lot about.

Still, if you're gonna complain so much about certain articles, I say see if you can do any better at writing an article about said game you think has a bad article. That way, you can replace the rubbish one with a less rubbish one.

Honestly, I probably wouldn't even go there if there were more obscure game threads or archaeology threads here. I don't think we've had one for about a year and that saddens me.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 19 18:05:18 2014 No.2133137 >>2133120 You rang, nigra?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:06:28 2014 No.2133141 >>2133130 >archaeology threads why bother, people will just use or accuse you of using wikipedia/mobygames/etc

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:08:49 2014 No.2133143 >>2133141 No, that's not what I'm talking about. By Archeeology threads, I basically mean finding and dumping games that haven't been dumped yet, especially betas of games that never got finished.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:09:39 2014 No.2133146 >>2133137 I don't know how you can still stand the HG101 forums, much less the people you hang around with on Twitter.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:11:27 2014 No.2133149

>>2133120
>...isn't accurate...
The bigger issue is not only that it isn't accurate (Don's absolutely right and anyone who follows Japanese PC gaming even remotely knows this), but that Hardcore Gaming is authoritative. Once this gets published you can bet people will believe it without question, because HG101's the only semipopular English source for these matters. It's like how there are tons of people thinking Granstream Saga has anything to do with Soul Blazer, for example, because the HG101 writer for the SB article really liked Granstream.

Incorrect info is posted time and again because as >>2132792 proves there's little (if any?) editorial quality control. Just be buds with head editor Kalata and he'll take your word for it. You can try to correct info in the forums, but the forums are cesspools to begin with so why bother.

Not to mention Kalata's sjw pandering to the detriment of his own writers; as Kalata aligned himself with "feminist critical theory" (his own words) John Szczepaniak's book of interviews with retro Japanese developers got a media blackout after Szczepaniak's sjw interpreter chastised him for not condemning hentai and misogyny in the Japanese developer culture during his interviews.

It's a good site because it's basically the only popular source of its kind in English, but it could be much much better under a serious, or at least tiny bit more rigid and profesional, editorial management.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:12:11 2014 No.2133151 I've never actually went to the forums for that site, but now with all the bitching about them, I'm getting the feeling that they much either be awesome or far better then /vr/. I'm gonna have to try them out soon just to see what the fuss is about.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:12:43 2014 No.2133152

>>2133137
Thanks for standing up for the little guys and calling bullshit on the HG101 forums when it rears its ugly head, Jojo.

Also HG101 is still okay, mostly. Why don't we take advantage of the fact that they're recieving submissions and make some quality OC for it?

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 19 18:14:30 2014 No.2133157 >>2133146 Some people cut themselves or burn themselves with cigarettes, I hang out on the HG101 forums.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:14:52 2014 No.2133158

>>2133149
>Not to mention Kalata's sjw pandering to the detriment of his own writers; as Kalata aligned himself with "feminist critical theory" (his own words) John Szczepaniak's book of interviews with retro Japanese developers got a media blackout after Szczepaniak's sjw interpreter chastised him for not condemning hentai and misogyny in the Japanese developer culture during his interviews.

Yep, that clinches it. I've never been to HG 101, but now I just have to. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:16:11 2014 No.2133161 considering people are willing to pay 100$ + for shitty snes games you would think there would be more than one site about old games

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:17:27 2014 No.2133162 File: 34 KB, 295x394, Kris_Jou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2133157 Did Nightdreamer block on you on Twitter?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:25:02 2014 No.2133172 >>2133161 Most people do YouTube videos instead.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:26:18 2014 No.2133174
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>>2133149
>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
>>>ChildPornChan
>>>Reddit

Seriously, you know a lot of people go to /vr/ to escape this /v/ tier bullshit? There are other places you can hallucinate about the big bad feminist overlords stealing your games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:28:05 2014 No.2133179 >>2133149 >people thinking Granstream Saga has anything to do with Soul Blazer ....it doesn't? That was the whole reason I bought it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:29:45 2014 No.2133181 >>2133174 Huh. And here I thought one would come to /vr/ for Retro vidya. Good to know.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:30:06 2014 No.2133182

>>2133174
> big bad feminist overlords stealing your games.
I never said anything like this, Szczepaniak's statement verges far more in the conspiracy theory than my summary. I'm just quoting the guy. I don't care much about gamergate because it doesn't affect retro video games, but this specific instance you have a great book that ends with the promise of a part II not making it because of an angry feminist. It's not hallucination, it's the author's own words.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 18:30:21 2014 No.2133183
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>>2133137
Yo where you at

>>2133143
This describes some of what I've posted in the Japanese PC threads. Haven't gotten my hands on anything to dump, but you can bet I'll talk about Michiaki Tsubaki games and Windows multimedia stuff like Radio Zone or Clone Ranger.

What does everyone think of Game Music Online? Their relaunch (previously Square Enix Music Online) has gone well.

>>2133172
Worse, they make talking-heads videos. Even LGR's ventured towards more typical personality-based uploads recently.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:31:01 2014 No.2133184 >>2133174 >There are other places you can hallucinate about the big bad feminist overlords stealing your games. You people are still saying this even after the GTAV ban?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:33:07 2014 No.2133187 By shutting it down.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:36:28 2014 No.2133193 >>2133174 >you can hallucinate about the big bad feminist overlords stealing your games. Though over stated, feminists do actually want to pressure companies to change games or to not sell them. They think that games cause misogyny.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:38:54 2014 No.2133194

>>2133184
That wasn't a ban. It was a couple retailers refusing to sell a game because they aren't obligated to sell everything ever. Because, ya know, they're private companies not some kind of hippy commie game library. The game was still available from other retailers both online and off. Such things are only a problem if there was a monopoly.

Also, it's fucking Austrailia.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:41:12 2014 No.2133202 >>2133194 Pretty everything I have to say on the issue. Including the Australia part. Keep your issues in Aussieland. The est of the world does not care.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:41:48 2014 No.2133204 >>2133174 >>>>ChildPornChan haha what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:42:50 2014 No.2133206 >>2133202 Australia has always been pussies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:43:15 2014 No.2133207 HG101 should get an improvement wiki. >point out errors >submit re-written sections >suggest areas they missed etc

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:43:28 2014 No.2133208 I used to like their site because they wrote long, in depth articles about series I had not heard about before. But they stop writing as many articles, and then ones they did write were short and boring.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 18:46:52 2014 No.2133212

>>2133208
Their update schedule has sped up recently, I've noticed. Part of that's attributable to a guaranteed commission fund thanks to Patreon.

>>2133207
Kulata puts up threads for each article that serve this purpose. I don't like ProBoards, but he ain't gonna change his mind.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:47:48 2014 No.2133214

>>2133194
SJWs convinced stores to remove the games from sale by making false claims about them. There's no reason why they can't do that again, and in general they are actively campaigning against the game industry in a similar manner. Their intent is to dictate what kind of games get made and sold and what people are allowed to say about them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:48:09 2014 No.2133216 >>2133204 That chan we aren't supposed to mention. Minus goofy goobers and /pol/ stuff recently, their main draw/thing this site doesn't have is child porn. Thus, many people negatively associate that site with child porn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:49:42 2014 No.2133218 >>2133214 I thought it was underagers on /v/ doing the petitions for shits and giggles and then it got taken seriously by Target?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:53:42 2014 No.2133227 >>2133218 Yes. That's the craziest thing about it. They manufactured the bullshit so they could have a talking point. They literally became their own boogieman just so they could pretend it exist. It is really sad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:55:07 2014 No.2133229 >>2133172 shitty youtube videos dont count. sorry try again

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:57:35 2014 No.2133234 >>2133174 i like how this post ruined the thread by bringing up the very thing it was trying to avoid

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:58:10 2014 No.2133235 >>2133227 They even started a petition to remove Anita from the Mirror's Edge 2 development team based on a shitpost from 4chan that people took seriously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 18:59:29 2014 No.2133239 >>2132586 It isn't that old, 2010 maybe? It was a link they put up on April Fools.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:00:18 2014 No.2133242 >>2133234 this. Can we please go back to talking about HG101? >>2133207 this is a great idea that Kurt should consider. The boards are an awful place to suggest changes, you could get a lot more done with a wiki interface.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:01:13 2014 No.2133246 >>2133239 So people are complaining about an April fools joke and mistaking it as a serious article? Of course. I'm not really surprised.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 19:02:04 2014 No.2133247 >>2133239 Wow, then it would be a dig. Can't find a date hidden in the page source, though.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:02:06 2014 No.2133248

>>2133182
so she's an angry feminist now?

His original kickstarter updates made it sound like he was stirring up shit just to get his book more publicity from the gaming tabloid sites. But accusing her of being an angry feminist only after it becomes topical pretty much confirms that he's baiting for attention. Maybe it's tough to sell books these days?

The non-dramatic way to do a part 2 would be to do exactly the same thing he did for part 1 except hire a different translator, likely the same translator who helped him finish part 1.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:02:17 2014 No.2133250

>>2133179
It doesn't. HG101 claims Granstream's final twists are related to the Soul Blazer, but they aren't, not even thematically. It's still a good game, one of my favorite RPGs for the PSX actually, but to say it's related in any way beyond some of the staff being the same is disingenuous.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:03:43 2014 No.2133253

>>2133218
Sounds like a convinient cover story.

>>2133229
I meant that that's just what most people do nowadays. Few people have the interest and knowledge to write in-depth articles. It's also hard to monetize them if it's not on a site that gets a lot of traffic.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:04:05 2014 No.2133254

>>2133183
I generally though that kind of thing there was minor. But yes, you helped me find that Gundam game in an earlier thread and I thank you for that. I've actually had some fun with it. Though the rom was already around just not public and probably still not, so it doubt it really counts much.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 19:05:29 2014 No.2133256

>>2133248
He already has all the interviews from his trip to Japan, just needs money to print the upcoming volumes once they've been edited.

>>2133254
I just browse Tokugawa Corp. a lot, which helps. Eventually I'll be doing the stuff they do too.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:08:40 2014 No.2133268

>>2133248
>gaming tabloid sites
According to John, Agness Kaku is in cahoots with these sites and that's why once the whole lawsuit drama started the book had little to no coverage. No coverage = no publicity = no sales. The timeline checks out in that kotaku and the like covered the book before the feud, and afterwards they're all silent. The non-dramatic way to do a part 2 is selling part 1 so he doesn't bleed money, I'd wager.

You can read John's statement here: http://theralphretort.com/sjw-media-blackouts-coverage-of-japan-chroniclers-book/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:11:19 2014 No.2133270 >>2133268 I saw a post somewhere suggesting that there isn't a media blackout as the book has received decent coverage, but I haven't looked into it myself.

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:11:46 2014 No.2133271

>>2133248
I don't know about Sketcz (heard he's a bit nutty too) but, Agness Kaku is the kind of person who says more than she has to when asked for her opinion and then blames everything except her bad personality on why nobody wants to hire her again. Say what you will about Kojima's translation choices, but I'm glad they rejected her initial draft of the MGS2 script.
>This is Snake. Do you read me, Otakon? Over.
> Loud and clear, Snake. Over.
>Think I'd wait forever [the comment is directed to the player]? I'm at the infiltration point [SP for 'sneak point']. Over.
>Everything going okay? Over.
>The stealth camo's busted. Landing impact. Over.
>We did use the hell out of that thing. Sorry, but you're gonna have to deal. You're not in the military-industrial complex anymore, Dorothy.
>Right. I don't plan on relying on this gadget either way. Over.
>Hey, the private sector's not so bad, though, huh? Privacy guaranteed...
> I'm happy as long as no one slips a Mickey Finn in the morning glass of OJ.
>You mean that thing with Naomi?
>And I can't say I miss the chattering nanny.
>Mei Lin's not so bad. That reminds me, I have to get in touch with her again about that new Natick flashware.
> Diverting toys from the SSCEN (U.S. Army Soldier Systems Center) again? Someone will find out, sooner or later. She's better off assuming it's sooner and quit while she's ahead. Tell her I said that.
>The mission objective is to make visual confirmation of the new Metal Gear being transported by that tanker and bring back photographic evidence. No destruction, please. Got it?
>Don't worry. I know the drill -- we're not terrorists.
>Very good. We're a 100% UN-recognized 'Opposition to Metal Gear' aka OMEGA*. Don't you forget that you're a part of an NGO and can chew granola with the best of them.
>Recognized, but still fringe, Otakon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:13:52 2014 No.2133275 >>2133270 I know people on Twitter who said they wouldn't support the book after what happened with Kaku.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:15:32 2014 No.2133279 >>2133271 >chew granola with the best of them This slays me everytime

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 19:15:49 2014 No.2133280 >>2133275 Lotsa folks are stepping away until the controversy simmers down, if ever. Book itself satisfies, but Szczepaniak escalated much of this with his first public update about Hanako.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:17:10 2014 No.2133282 >>2133275 chances are these people dont care about falcom, quartet or enix either way

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 19:19:45 2014 No.2133292

>>2132951
Kulata needs to have Sotenga re-write the SEGA articles, since he at least won't bitch about Galaxy Force wanting your quarters and nothing but.

>>2133282
There's enough interest for those companies' past libraries, but not enough for the likes of Kure Soft or Studio Wing. The XSEED crowd will likely dive in for whatever volumes has the Yoshio Kiya interview.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:22:05 2014 No.2133296 >>2133282 One of them was the guy who runs the GDRI, who covers a lot of obscure developers.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 19 19:26:10 2014 No.2133303

>>2133149
I've come to realize the whole sketcz thing is comedy gold. It's the gift that keeps on giving. BTW his dvd of creep shots and whining about broken camera stands is on sale till christmas, check it out!

>>2133151
Mostly it's worth checking out for when me or someone else has a meltdown and they lock the thread. The Hatred thread recently was hilarious, I wish it would've lasted longer.

>>2133152
I'm not doing anything, but thanks :).

>>2133162
N-word indeed blocked me, we are no longer homies. It's for the best though.

>>2133182
Does he actually say that in the book? lol

>>2133207
This was brought up by a couple of folks although nothing's been done sadly. I think it's a great idea so long as people don't abuse it too badly.

>>2133183
Solid, represent.

>>2133268
>>2133271
I LOLed at the "blackout" because he got positive coverage out the ass, and I haven't read anything supporting Agness Kaku's side of the issue outside of her own blog.

>>2133292
Want me to pass that along? I'm sure he'd be up for it.

Also, you ever think about writing something for the site?

>>2133282
Eh, either that or they do but know what a poopooface he is and don't want to pay for his book (my excuse).

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri Dec 19 19:28:32 2014 No.2133306 >>2133303 I've got something up my sleeve. Going to post a preview article once I can get a personal site up and running; I posted the box cover for it just now in another thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:35:52 2014 No.2133317 >>2132561 it's probably all in jest but he's not exactly wrong either

Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:38:42 2014 No.2133320

>>2133303
>N-word indeed blocked me, we are no longer homies. It's for the best though.
He said something about how he "blocked a certain 'gamer nerd'" because he "lost count of his horribly racist 'jokes' by now." That was a tweet from November 24.

I was always surprised at how you could be friends with such an oversensitive child.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 19:45:11 2014 No.2133332 File: 320 KB, 839x1200, 1356669303038.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2133174 >Linking to /pol/ >When it's still fucked by moot's temper tamtrum. Great fucking job disproving your own point, faggot.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 19 19:52:41 2014 No.2133343

>>2133306
Groovy, looking forward to it! Gonna go check the threads to see which game...

Also that reminds me I need to start looking into web/image server options.

>>2133320
Hm, I can't remember when it was but it was before then. All I know was he got pissed at some comments I made about Dread Pirate Anita and I think I called him names one too many times. Oh well, best of luck to him (translation: fuck him and the high horse he rode in on).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 20:07:53 2014 No.2133361 >>2133343 >fuck him and the high horse he rode in on Yeah. He likes to mock everyone he doesn't like behind their back and then act like he's persecuted when somebody call him out on it. It's no wonder girls are always flaking out on him on dates.

Oakland Fri Dec 19 23:12:40 2014 No.2133546

>>2133275
Well fuck them, they probably didn't care about what the book had to say anyway. I think it's more surprisingly people care that much about Kaku though, seeing as even her interviews on HG101 (that should have actually gotten her fined HEFTY for leaking those scripts) make her seem like a bitch.

Anyway, I want Volume 2 to come out so I can get that sweet Westone goodness. It's such a shame Westone filed for bankruptcy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 19 23:49:19 2014 No.2133598 File: 23 KB, 150x150, LW9aGfK4sz55Ds_Y2Qyw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2133303 >The Hatred thread recently was hilarious kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:01:46 2014 No.2133621 I wish it was a little less opinion and more fact, but it's a decent site.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:03:43 2014 No.2133624 >>2133184 >Getting butt flustered over a whole 2 store chains in Australia not selling a product most of the consumer base of said product didn't even knew they sold. >Calling this a ban. go back to pedochan /v/ermin

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:09:57 2014 No.2133636 >>2133624 STFU agnes!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:10:23 2014 No.2133638 >>2133624 First it's "but we haven't censored anything," and then it's "but we censored only a little, so who cares." >go back to pedochan /v/ermin I don't go to either version of /v/ and I don't see what /v/ even has to do with this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:14:49 2014 No.2133647 >>2133303 HG101 should move away from reviews and editorial content, to more objective encyclopedic style content. example: >This game was not good vs. >The game was not well received by critics at the time

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:17:00 2014 No.2133649 >>2132381 my gold book https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpuwcxmVzGY&feature=youtu.be

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:17:44 2014 No.2133650 >>2133647 >The game was not well received by critics at the time They don't even do that right either. I remember shoutime calling their crap out on the Virtua Fighter article.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:19:06 2014 No.2133651

>>2132381

Kaku seems pretty good at manipulating, whereas John sucks at it.

I don't see anything to make me believe either of them, but Kaku's tactics raises a lot of SJW red flags (playing the damsel, muh soggs, shaming) Her relationship with the high profile pro-corruption and endorsement of the whole industry-hates-women myth is also interesting, to say the least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:22:47 2014 No.2133654 >>2133598 The Hatred and Tekken 7 threads made me realized how bluepilled most of their forum goers really are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:30:06 2014 No.2133667 >>2133654 >bluepilled >>>/pol/ And stay there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:33:24 2014 No.2133669 >>2133654 What did they have to say about Tekken 7?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat Dec 20 00:38:35 2014 No.2133679 >>2133669 Something about the recent Chloe reveal.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:43:47 2014 No.2133684

>>2133667
Bluepilled is a figure of speech. You don't have to be autistic about it.

>>2133669
>>2133679
It's mainly one guy calling Chloe's design "fetish crap" (who ironically has a furry avatar) and Sam Derboo (the guy who writes the Korean game articles) calling Hideki Kamiya a "sexist pig."

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:46:09 2014 No.2133689 >>2133684 >Bluepilled is a figure of speech. No it's not. It's at BEST a meme

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:47:10 2014 No.2133691 >>2133684 >It's mainly one guy calling Chloe's design "fetish crap" (who ironically has a furry avatar) well, he's not wrong.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 20 00:48:45 2014 No.2133693

>>2133669
It started by talking about a character that supposedly wasn't going to be in the US version, then turned into a battle about "social justice." Same thing happened with a thread about that game Hatred, except that one got locked fast.

>>2133598
I'm kind of sad I didn't get a reaction out of anyone for that on the forum :).

>>2133647
I'm a fan of the matter of fact style too.

>>2133684
Yeah, the Kamiya thing made me laugh. Then again he has a massive hatecrush for Platinum, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat Dec 20 00:55:02 2014 No.2133705 Sad that Hatred and Tekken controversies matter more than the Arsys/Fill in Cafe threads previously on the front page.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:55:47 2014 No.2133708 >>2133691 Well, they already have numerous furry-fetish and fart-fetish and full on bara-fetish characters, so it seems like this would be anything but the norm for the series? OH WAIT, it is a girl so now suddenly it is an issue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:56:50 2014 No.2133709 >>2133708 *nothing but the norm

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 00:59:57 2014 No.2133715

>>2133708
>Well, they already have numerous furry-fetish and fart-fetish and full on bara-fetish characters,

Nonono. See there's a distinction. They have weird things that where fetishized. Marduk and Kuma weren't designed to be jacked too. They where cuz it's the internet and humanity is like that but that's besides the fact.

Chloe on the other hand WAS designed to pander to the fetish crowd just like Marie Rose was in DOA. And lets be frank Chloe is just trying to get on that hype wagon.

More to point the design just isn't good. I know it's hard to accept but a lot of people don't like her just for the crappy design.

Her gender is irrelevant and saying that's what the problem is just trying to avoid the issue

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:02:16 2014 No.2133719

>>2133708

It's funny how people can't defend Chloe on her own merits and always ALWAYS have to resort to

>but the other characters...

the other characters don't mean shit here. Chloe is a bad design for a lot of reasons and whatever the reasoning was for designing everyone else doesn't exclude Chloe from sucking

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:03:14 2014 No.2133720

>>2133715
Did the designers ever state that Marduk wasn't designed to be jacked to? With the amount of near-nude ripped men in fighting games, I think it is naive to think that they don't know what they are doing when painstakingly designing illogically, impossibly ripped shirtless men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:04:20 2014 No.2133721 >>2133719 pretty sure that point was to address the reasoning: "she just doesn't fit in tekken"

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:04:43 2014 No.2133724

>>2133691
>well, he's not wrong.
The problem wasn't that he's wrong, but rather the guy wrote that was a massive furfag in the literal sense of the word. It kinda reeks of hypocrisy in that sense. He's always changing his avatars multicolored furry characters.

>>2133693
>Then again he has a massive hatecrush for Platinum
I noticed it too. Like he has to remind everyone of how much he hates the Devil May Cry series and how PlatinumGames suck.

It's not so different from your friend Jason X, who always brings up misogyny issues every time when complaining about fan-service or horrible stuff happening to female characters (instead of actual problems that real women are facing) and then makes the assumption that if you don't agree with him, you're a lonely bachelor who isn't married like he is.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:05:30 2014 No.2133725

>>2133724
>The problem wasn't that he's wrong, but rather the guy wrote that was a massive furfag in the literal sense of the word. It kinda reeks of hypocrisy in that sense. He's always changing his avatars multicolored furry characters.

well no argument there. it's really your borken clock kind of rightness but right is right

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:06:23 2014 No.2133726

>>2133719
I don't follow Tekken these days and was only made aware of the character from a YouTube video. Sure, she can be a badly designed character if you think that, just like it was stupid to have a raptor with boxing gloves. But to single her out makes no sense given all the other zany characters in the series.

>>	Oakland Sat Dec 20 01:08:56 2014 No.2133730 >>2133684 Fuck Derboo. Seriously. I think his articles are great for the most part, but Derboo is such a fucking shithead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:09:51 2014 No.2133731 >>2132994 things that aren't final fantasy and of those only one left a dent in Japan but no where else

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:10:07 2014 No.2133734

>>2133726
>But to single her out makes no sense given all the other zany characters in the series.

thing is, she's not especially zany.

She kind of sits on the border of weird enough to stand out and normal enough to not get away with it.

A Raptor is weird yeah but it's also a fucking Raptor. She's a girl with cat paws. and that's it. kind of boring honestly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:10:44 2014 No.2133735 >>2133715 Japanese games and other media are full of "pandering" and "fetishes" and they couldn't gives less of a shit if you have a problem with it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:15:14 2014 No.2133741

>>2133734
So... basically the logic is, she doesn't fit an arbitrary view of social acceptability so she will be placed in whatever unique category can be designed to make her not fit in the series? Tekken is weird. The rosters for the games I know of have almost intentionally straddled the line between that of a serious fighting game (Heihachi, Kazuya, Nina, etc) and strange (Kuma), goofball (Mokujin, Raptor), or simply unusual (Dr Bosconovich) characters that seem more of a parody of the genre.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:15:32 2014 No.2133743

>>2133735

I really DON'T have a problem with it. Well not outside of her just being a bad character anyways. As far as Im concerned she's really just another one for the pile.

My only argument is that's just plain dumb. And regardless of the state of the Japanese media that doesn't change the fact that's dumb.

What is a problem is faggots online throwing a bitchfit over her either way. It's Namco's game if they want to put her in they can put her in. But the people who think she sucks (i.e everybody) should be allowed to say so.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:16:44 2014 No.2133747

>>2133719

Did you ever think that when someone else picks her you get the chance to beat her up? Who cares that one character out of a cast of what is it at now? 50+? doesn't meet your standards, I can name people who think King is a dumb character or hate any of the jacks, or Ogre

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:18:12 2014 No.2133749 >>2133730 The worst thing is that he gets away shitflinging at Kamiya, but the moment a thread derailed into a couple of posters bashing Felipe Pescado, he immediately locks it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:21:57 2014 No.2133754

>>2133741
>So... basically the logic is, she doesn't fit an arbitrary view of social acceptability blah blah blah a bunch of stupid crap blah

okay firs toff. Stop holding her against the other characters. Her design has to stand on it's own. Stop using other characters as an excuse for this one

secondly all the other characters are one extreme or another. Heichachi is serious, Jin is TOO serious. Kuma is silly. Other characters vary in tone but they keep to one extreme or another.

Chloe isn't either and it creates a disconnect She's the uncanny valley and what we get is an annoying girl with cat paws.

She's simply a poorly designed character. Also it's pretty obvious that they're just aping DOA's Marie Rose. They add a blond "not" loli then all of sudden Tekken roles up with this. doesn't take Sherlock Holmes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:25:17 2014 No.2133764 >>2133754 So you'd like her more if she were more fetishized to fall into an extreme? OK.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:25:36 2014 No.2133765

>>2133747
>Did you ever think that when someone else picks her you get the chance to beat her up? Who cares that one character out of a cast of what is it at now? 50+? doesn't meet your standards, I can name people who think King is a dumb character or hate any of the jacks, or Ogre

Please read the whole thread. I already said >>2133743 I don't really care if she's in or out.

What I want is for people to just share their opinion on her one way or the other without a bunch of faggots on line jumping down each others throats claiming there's an agenda at work.

> I can name people who think King is a dumb character or hate any of the jacks, or Ogre

and they have every right to call them out on being silly. It's the same thing here.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:28:04 2014 No.2133770

>>2133764

I just don't think they where being especially all that creative with her. They haven't revealed all the details about what her deal is so who knows how shit will change but as she stands she's just to normal to be silly and too silly to be normal.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:28:43 2014 No.2133772

>>2133765
>and they have every right to call them out on being silly.
They do, they have every right not to like a character or even not like Tekken itself

>It's the same thing here.

is where I disagree, all the people as mentioned above who do not like King or Jack or etc. still have to deal with them being in the game, a concentrated group of jackasses at Gaf may have gotten her region locked because of them.

However, this also comes down to whether or not Harada is just taking the piss or being serious

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 01:31:25 2014 No.2133778

>>2133772
>, a concentrated group of jackasses at Gaf may have gotten her region locked because of them.

yeah no they couldn't have. Harada isn't gonna lock out part of the game over one shitty forum.

it's like what was said above.

The Japanese don't care. He's smart enough to know that gaf doesn't speak for the majority of players, I forget what Tag 2 sold but it was ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT more than amount of people who post on Gaf.

>However, this also comes down to whether or not Harada is just taking the piss or being serious

He was taking the piss. Really if anyone thought he was serious, AT ALL, they got bigger concerns than a video game. In that they are literally retarded and should seek mental aid

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 20 01:33:41 2014 No.2133780

>>2133724
Eh, Jason's a good guy; although to be fair I guess I've mostly tuned out the feminism crap. Also I guess I give him a pass because he's an oldfag like me, heh.

>>2133705
Yeah, it's kind of ironic that a forum for a site supposedly dedicated to talking about retro games would rather dwell on petty shit surrounding new ones. Says the guy that feeds on this shit.

Seriously though, parrothead is a nice dude though and I appreciate his enthusiasm for games, and that he dares to actually make classic gaming-related threads.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat Dec 20 01:41:19 2014 No.2133785

>>2133780
Him locating and then dumping that rare version of Asuka 120% was awesome, especially since a member of Tokugawa proceeded to crack it. I'm afraid the whole Szczepaniak-Kaku fiasco's going to distract people from breakthroughs happening for Japanese PC game preservation and coverage.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 20 01:52:07 2014 No.2133797

>>2133785
If anything, I'd like to see more articles about Japanese PC games, those seem to have tapered off lately. Ironic, considering that (as you mentioned) there's been a lot going on as far as findings/preservation attempts and translations and such to make them more accessible.

>>	Oakland Sat Dec 20 01:59:35 2014 No.2133808 >>2133797 I really wish that Joseph Redon would have coughed up his copy of PC Cocoron, but it's not actually his, so he really couldn't. Reading about the GPS was pretty quite fascinating.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 02:00:12 2014 No.2133810

>>2133780
>Jason's a good guy
That's what you said about nightdreamer and looked what happened. Anyway, it wouldn't even bother that much if he didn't use his marriage as evidence that he's right about everything when it comes to his bitching of female characters in movies and video games (he even complaining about the female protagonist in The Evil Within wearing high heels). I hope for his sake that his wife doesn't divorce him one day.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 20 02:23:11 2014 No.2133828 >>2133810 Alright, you got me there, haha.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 02:25:08 2014 No.2133830 File: 69 KB, 354x150, vr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gentlemen. How do we save this place?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 02:29:21 2014 No.2133832 >>2133830 burn it down and start over

>>	Agenes Kaku !Ry.6oDqO1Q Sat Dec 20 02:31:54 2014 No.2133834 I'M IN LOVE WITH STEPANIAK! that's way i hate him!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 09:29:23 2014 No.2134115 >>2133830 Now that is a topic >Discourage /v/ memes and shitposting all the time >Janitors/mods that enforce the rules and nothing more >Info graphics/pastebins, we need more like the FF and Romhack ones >More pinball

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 09:32:00 2014 No.2134118 >>2134115 Oh and >discourage elitism and ageism >start a "play what you like, it's all fun" mentality

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 10:59:48 2014 No.2134189 >>2132938 Zelda isn't an RPG you fucking faggot.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 11:18:16 2014 No.2134208

>>2133731
You asked for good RPGs, not popular ones. Also, I might as well add the Shining series on the Genesis and all those Working Designs RPGs on the Sega CD. I didn't even mention all the unlocalized stuff like most of Falcom's output.

Anyone who says 16-bit JRPGs weren't good until Chrono Trigger is full of shit. If anything, the genre reached its peek that generation.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 11:25:20 2014 No.2134212

>>2134208
>RPGs weren’t cool during the 16-bit era. You never could talk storylines or combat systems with kids at recess because only one or two kids in the whole friggen school played them
"RPGs weren’t cool during the 16-bit era" is clearly talking about how 16-bit RPGs weren't popular in the West. Not that they were bad. Reading comprehension much?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 11:54:41 2014 No.2134243 >>2134212 Which is still wrong in that case, since Chrono Trigger was about as successful as every other JRPG localized in the U.S. up to that point. The "cool kids" didn't care about the genre until Final Fantasy VII.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 12:00:16 2014 No.2134254 >>2134243 It's amazing what buying a a billion magazine and comic book ads can do

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 12:04:20 2014 No.2134262

I like that people from the site come on here and don't get anus-burned about the criticism here. That's mad respectable.

I feel like the livecasts drag too much at 3+ hours. You can tell the livecasters are exhausted. They would be a lot strong if instead of one giant livestream you broke them up into 1 or 2 hour streams over the course of a weekend or so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 12:20:17 2014 No.2134301 >>2134254 Having the TV commercials show only the FMV parts of the game helped a lot too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 13:10:00 2014 No.2134365 Answer: make a new site which replicates its virtues and none of its flaws. Make HG101 obsolete.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 13:12:20 2014 No.2134368 >>2134365 why dont you just focus on the 10% part that is good then? Then every site would be a perfect 10/10

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 13:13:20 2014 No.2134371 >>2134189 i kno rite, but it was considered one back in the 90s

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 13:16:00 2014 No.2134373 Also besides tokugawa corp where are you guys getting your old japanese pc information?

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 16:37:20 2014 No.2134597

>>2132938

Please don't talk about things you don't know anything about, SNES RPGs was one of the main reasons why arcades died out since they offered more playtime and content for less money and had a low skill ceiling for anyone to enjoy, even if most of the games didn't become long running series RPGs were still the most well sold games

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat Dec 20 17:03:32 2014 No.2134630 >>2134373 Use this Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/g99LycCJ Really need to update it now that I've got wikis and comprehensive Japanese fan-sites in my bookmarks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:14:07 2014 No.2134638 >>2134597 ah nah, no one played that shit back then the arcades died when the dreamcast and ps2 came out and they offered the exact same graphic and processing power for much less cash, besides at that point everything was a street fighter clone anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:19:20 2014 No.2134646 >>2134597 ur sound like ur talking about japan, i was referring to rpgs in the west

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:19:51 2014 No.2134649 >>2134638 Do you enjoy talking out of your ass and making a fool of yourself?

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:20:52 2014 No.2134652

>>2134597
>more playtime and content for less money and had a low skill ceiling for anyone to enjo
These games have existed since the early to mid 80s. Home computer and console ports of arcade games have existed since the early 80s. Or earlier if you count Pong and probably some other stuff.

No doubt consoles were instrumental in killing arcades in the West, but I don't see how the SNES let alone SNES JRPGs in particular were the culprit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:40:44 2014 No.2134691 >>2134649 lets just agree to disagree!

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:40:54 2014 No.2134693

>>2134597
>SNES RPGs was one of the main reasons why arcades died out since they offered more playtime
>This is what JRPG-playing shut-ins think.
That's bullshit. If anything arcades were way more profitable in the 90's than they were in any other decade due to the whole fighting game craze. All my schoolmates knew about the latest fighting games that came out in the arcades whether they be MK, Tekken or Marvel, but few of them gave a shit about RPGs outside maybe Final Fantasy VII.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:45:08 2014 No.2134702 >>2134652 >>2134693 That's not how it happened. Please remember you have to be over 18 to post in this site.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:53:51 2014 No.2134724

>>2134702
You're right, Mr. Anonymous Stranger on a 4chan board. I guess my schooldays back in the 90's and my conversations about videogames with my schoolmates were just a figment of my imagination.

Like it or not, JRPGs were always a niche genre in the west and it's part of the reason why they're only sold in limited print runs and why complete copies tend to fetch high prices on eBay. The success of Final Fantasy VII was mostly due to SCEA's marketing push than a genuine interest in the genre. Just look at the gameplay footage that the commercials for the game showed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru9zzFEdGWk

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:56:05 2014 No.2134727 >>2134702 Then please enlighten us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 17:56:57 2014 No.2134729 >>2134702 >Please remember you have to be over 18 to post in this site. yes, surely no on the internet would lie about their age

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:03:27 2014 No.2134739 HG101 spreads the word about good games so I see nothing wrong with it it's just opinions in the end, and it's up to the people playing the games to decide if they like them or not

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:09:52 2014 No.2134748 >>2134729 first post here whoever is saying RPGs killed arcades is a fucking retard. They don't even cater to the same types of gamers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:24:13 2014 No.2134770 >>2134739 Most of the stuff is fine, but sometimes you do find some dubious pieces of information in their articles. Some of their authors need to better verifying their facts.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:29:33 2014 No.2134778

>>2134748

Exactly you fucking retard, as soon as casual gamers got the option they stop feeding quarters at the arcade and played the genre that offered them a full story with little effort

By your logic arcades are doing as well now as they always did since "they don't cater to the same type of gamers"

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:31:22 2014 No.2134782 >>2134778 no you fucking idiot once the arcade gamers got quality ports on PS1 and Saturn they slowed down then died off the next gen. RPG faggots were at home playing dungeons and dragons with the other rpg faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:33:47 2014 No.2134792 >>2134770 Is there something keeping them from going back and doing just that or are they just lazy? going back and fixing up articles ain't a bad idea in the slightest

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:39:40 2014 No.2134804 >>2134778 did people play fighters and shmups for story?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:48:03 2014 No.2134835 >>2134804 No, they play them because action games were the only thing they had to play before the RPG boom of the SNES Can you stop being an idiot now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:50:50 2014 No.2134842 >>2134835 you're arguing with two different people now kid. RPG nerds were playing D&D or ultima on PCs. The only thing jRPGs did was round up more casuals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:52:56 2014 No.2134847 >>2134842 we should all just agree that jayperguers are the single worst videogame genre ever

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 18:54:51 2014 No.2134853 >>2134835 if there was a boom how come the west missed out on most of the good stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:00:08 2014 No.2134863 >>2134853 >how come the west missed out on most of the good stuff? This. Only weeaboos cared about JRPGs. Everyone else was too busy kicking each others' asses in Tekken or Marvel vs. Capcom.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:04:31 2014 No.2134871 >>2134863 >Everyone else was too busy kicking each others' asses in Tekken or Marvel vs. Capcom. Or shooting each other in Quake or Goldeneye.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 20 19:06:26 2014 No.2134873

>>2134262
Actually we're glad to get any kind of criticism on the gc9x podcasts/livecasts, so I appreciate this! If you have any comments make sure and let me know, I'll pass it on to the other guys.

I agree about the length of the livecasts (I was about ready to pass out about an hour into the one last night). One of the reasons we tend to stick with one shot is that they're usually spur of the moment. Also we're all spread out in different time zones and countries, so it makes scheduling a bitch. I'm all for doing shorter and more focused videos though.

>>2134630
Thanks for compiling this info, this is awesome!

>>2134770
>>2134792
There are some folks that regularly comment on the grammar or make error correction comments and those get taken care of pretty quickly, but it's easy for stuff to slip through the cracks. Definitely let the staff know on the forum if you've found an inaccuracy or omission, Kurt's good about getting the changes made.

Also I know that a couple of months ago Kurt mentioned that he's been compiling a list of stuff in need of updates - that might be something to mention or ask him if you're interested.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:07:37 2014 No.2134875

>>2134847
I dunno there has to be some worse ones, I actually like them myself I understand why they dont appeal to a lot of people though. What I hate is the over zealous weeaboo faggots who think their precious games are the pinnacle of gaming. RPGs never had mainstream appeal until ff7 and most of these underaged faggots don't even know that so shit on FF7 cause its the contrarian thing to do even though it opened the door for more games for them released here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:09:53 2014 No.2134882 single-handedly the worst thread i've seen on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:10:21 2014 No.2134883 >>2134875 JRPGs are not bad per se, but their fanbase have an inflated sense of importance over their favorite genre.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:15:46 2014 No.2134891

>>2134883
yeah thats what I was trying to say. They are delusional enough to proclaim FF6 and CT or some other RPG as a better game than a top tier action game because "muh 20 hour storyline". They don't understand how much pleasure 20 minutes of intense action can give you when they throw away 20 minutes grinding like its nothing.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:15:56 2014 No.2134892

JRPG fan here.

No, it's not the pinnacle of gaming. It's just another genre.

JRPGs were not mainstream at all until FF7. There's a reason so many JRPGs in the 16-bit era and even beyond were never localized.

Sure, stuff like Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, and the FF games got a good amount of attention, but by and large, the genre was niche.

FF7 was what really opened the doors for more JRPGs to come over here.

Just because you and your friends talked about it doesn't mean it was popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:22:17 2014 No.2134903 >>2134892 Dude you're a solid dude with a good head on your shoulders like most people in /vr/. I think most of us ar talking in general the type of youtube comments tier shit we have to deal with when talking to normalfags.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:24:37 2014 No.2134905 >>2134903 what kind of turbonerd brings up 16 bit rpgs when hanging with friends anyway you should find better friends

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:26:42 2014 No.2134909 >>2134905 I never said they were friends prick. Me and my friends do discuss dungeon explorer strats when we have turbografx weekends though it's a lot of fun designating a tank, healer and offense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:30:14 2014 No.2134912 >>2134903 Personally, most "normalfags" I talk to play WoW, CoD, and AssCreed and pretty much hate anything that comes from Japan. And even weeaboos usually stick to mainstream stuff. Most of them don't even know what Dragon Quest is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:33:39 2014 No.2134917 >>2133234 Extremist elements don't like when they get told The Nizkor Project dedicating a section to buttblasted neo-nazis is proof of this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:34:25 2014 No.2134919 >>2134912 Well the modern day iteration is the kingdom hearts fags. That shit probably isn't even relevant anymore though I guess. I'm getting old.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 19:40:43 2014 No.2134930

>>2134919
KH has gone from being prime weeb material to a niche action rpg.

Some people still write fanfiction, but as Nomura consistently dashes their hopes and dreams, they move on to other things.

Pretty much the only KH fans left are fully aware of how retarded the story is and only stick around to see how more retarded it will get. It's gotten way more retarded since KH2, and Nomura shows no signs of slowing down.

At least its not as bad as FFXIII though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 20:10:32 2014 No.2134990 >>2133271 Fuck that script was bad. This isn't MG1, every line doesn't have to end with "OVER."

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 20:25:14 2014 No.2135026 >>2134990 Every line doesn't have to end in what? Over.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat Dec 20 21:10:37 2014 No.2135102 >>2134873 np Thread's going up either tonight or tomorrow. Won't be complete without someone posting PC-98 waifu bait unironically.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 21:44:15 2014 No.2135145

>>2134873

I tend to fix shit in my own articles ASAP, at least major stuff pointed out. Even rewriting paragraphs. Spelling errors still emerge, and Kurt got plenty of capitalizations wrong for nonstandard song titles and artists.

He does have a byline about potentially publishing books with posted articles, and if any of mine get chosen, I'll go over my articles tooth-and-comb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 21:52:00 2014 No.2135161 >>2135026 I think he was saying that every line doesn't have to end in "over". Over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 20 21:56:07 2014 No.2135164 >>2135161 Okay, I understand now. Over.

Anonymous Sat Dec 20 22:10:11 2014 No.2135173

>>2134873
>a list of stuff in need of updates - that might be something to mention or ask him if you're interested.
Honestly a wiki format would do wonders for the site. I know it would go against the format it's always had, but think Chrono Compendium, there's locked articles and info and a few regular contributors who check stuff for spelling and instantly add new information. Updating stuff on HG101 takes far more work I asume.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 20 22:33:55 2014 No.2135185

>>2135173
Yeah, AFAIK it's still pure HTML. I've said this before but I really like the idea of a wiki and "edit deputies" but my only fear about it is that someone will make an entry about how Anita Sarkeesian invented Gone Home to cause male impotence and destroy the patriarchy (which is a fact, but still...) and that will be the end of it. Don't know until it happens though!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 21 07:45:27 2014 No.2135670 It is better than most retro gaming sites though, maybe one of the few places that care about the history side of things. Forum is a bit shit though

>>	NAME OVER Sun Dec 21 09:53:36 2014 No.2135772 >>2135102 You should make a site or blog about japanese pc stuff. English resources is rare enough as it is.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun Dec 21 19:57:54 2014 No.2136493

>>2135772
My plan right now is to learn fundamentals (HTML and CSS, JavaScript if I need it) and build the Pasokon Deacon site on my web host. There'll be a few developer profiles, at least one machine summary, quick-links to the /vr/ thread and Pastebin, and the aforementioned game overview.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 21 23:35:57 2014 No.2136852 >>2135164 this is starting to get really Bendis ish. Over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 05:10:03 2014 No.2137260 This is the control tower, make a left turn. Over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 06:47:48 2014 No.2137323 >>2132473 The Stalker one

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 09:31:39 2014 No.2137472 Is the book about adventure games by the HG101 guys worth it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 10:45:28 2014 No.2137521 >>2137472 It's not bad. Most of it is on the site and some articles have been updated since but it's a good toilet read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 10:47:07 2014 No.2137524 The only article that really made me cringe was the Agarest War one. It was like the guy never actually played the game; the whole review is about how much he hates the optional crafting system.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 10:53:59 2014 No.2137528 >>2137524 Like I said: A lot of articles are written by clueless amateurs.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:18:40 2014 No.2137540

>Renegade might have invented a whole new genre, but it's really not very good. It runs at half the frame rate of a normal arcade game, the animation is choppy, and controls are sluggish. It uses the same control scheme that was later adopted in Double Dragon II - one button attacks to the left side, the other to the right. When attacking in the direction you're facing, Kunio begins a volley of punches, but if he attack in the opposite direction, he executes a backwards kick. There's a third button to jump, and Kunio can run by double tapping the joystick. Enemies are stunned when hit, but usually only for a split second, and more often than not they'll simply counterattack, leaving you to exchange blows until one of you goes down. Since you always have to deal with numerous foes at once, trying to single out enemies is really the only way to win. Enemies can grab Kunio from behind, although he can still kick anybody else that comes near, and it's possible to wiggle free with the joystick. The AI is almost too good at dodging punches, as they'll back off as soon as you begin attacking, but they're also relentless when swarming in numbers. Some enemies have weapons too, which can be picked up when they drop them. It's a remarkably difficult game, especially since you only have a single life, no ability to continue and no health restoratives.
vs.
> Kulata's mistake is even doubly offensive compared to Edge's, because of Renegade's age. I mean of course if you were playing Alien vs Predator and Shadow over Mystara last week, Renegade will seem to you "really not very good" today, but if you spent, say two years playing nothing but pre-1986 games, and suddenly one day someone gave you Renegade, you'd SHIT YOUR FUCKING PANTS OVER IT on first sight — which is precisely what happened on a worldwide scale in 1986. People like Kulata are simply too dumb to understand the past (and therefore, by the way, also the present and the future).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:34:09 2014 No.2137558 >>2132381 >reviews got a different opinion than me... >is a shit site...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:35:38 2014 No.2137559 >>2137558 It's not so much their opinion but rather the lack of historical context in their viewpoints. See.>>2137540

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:37:04 2014 No.2137562 File: 377 KB, 1217x855, video games.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2137558 >review is nothing but opinion >it's a good site

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:39:07 2014 No.2137567 >>2137562 >women having sex >misogynist This is what virgins actually believe.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Dec 22 11:46:02 2014 No.2137584

>>2137562
Funny thing is, Valis PC games certainly look bad thanks to the article on HG101, but now I have to play the originals myself to make sure it's not just Derboo's take on the games.

>>2137540
lol, Bottom review is channeling Insomnia well.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:49:55 2014 No.2137587

>>2137584
>Bottom review is channeling Insomnia well.
That's because it is from Insomnia. It's by the Icy man himself in fact. Here's what he follows it with.
>HG101 in general has done a great deal of harm to the cause of videogame criticism and theory. Every single one of its writers is an emulator-abusing, credit-feeding, save-stating, FAQ-reading, YouTube-watching imbecile, whose "opinions" are nothing more than a regurgitation of inbred commentary scooped up over a period of months and years from Wikipedia articles and miscellaneous online message board threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:51:11 2014 No.2137589 >>2137562 There is a Valis eroge? bbl, gone to fap.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:53:45 2014 No.2137594 >>2137589 Yeah, Telenet doesn't make games anymore, so some eroge dev bought the rights. It probably sucks, though. Art is shit tier, as is that type of "game" in general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 11:56:34 2014 No.2137602 >>2137562 Frankly shitty social commentary opinion pieces like this have no place in gaming.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 12:02:29 2014 No.2137605 >>2137602 No they're absolutely obligatory and if you don't write one at every opportunity you're part of the problem, shitlord

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 12:21:05 2014 No.2137625 >>2137584 Were the original Valis games even that good? To me they always seemed like third-rate side-scrolling action games that only anime otakus played for the anime cutscenes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 12:24:18 2014 No.2137634 >>2137625 3 is ok.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 12:26:58 2014 No.2137636 >>2137625 3 on genesis is really good actually.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Dec 22 12:30:27 2014 No.2137643 >>2137625 The later console games have been received better. OG Valis (and Wolf Team's Final Zone) are both considered kusoge by HG101.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 12:33:19 2014 No.2137651 >>2137625 The PCECD versions (especially the remake of 1) are gold.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Dec 22 13:41:35 2014 No.2137731 Whaddaya know, the latest Retronauts discusses Valis. Reminds me that Parish considers the MSX a "computer/console hybrid", which I think is a myopic view if you aren't looking beyond Konami cart games.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 13:51:25 2014 No.2137752

>>2137731
This is something that has been on my mind lately, especially the more time I spend on VR. I mean, I personally don't think that the distinction functionally matters; a game is a game, regardless of the platform (even the analog/digital divide is not necessarily useful for many analyses). All video game consoles/hardware are computers, and the naming of many early "consoles" reflected that (Nintendo Family Computer, Atari Video Computer System, etc...).

Is there any reason besides arbitrary essentialism (which I personally think is more harmful than it is beneficial) that the distinction matters? In a broader contextual (economic, sociological, etc..) view, certainly it has BECOME an important distinction, but did it ever really need to be?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 14:32:09 2014 No.2137807 File: 78 KB, 620x465, 1419261574429[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2132381 Shocked they haven't done a piece of The Adventure of Little Ralph

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 15:06:59 2014 No.2137860 >>2137562 Id argue it being an opinion site IS what makes it good. Opinions are honest. Opinions are welcome to be disagreed with. It's not like some IGN shit where they claim to have the final say on quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:03:53 2014 No.2137956 >>2137860 when you shoehorn your personal beliefs into a game review that is the wrong type of opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:05:28 2014 No.2137960 >>2137956 That's idiotic. It's an opinion site. Of course he's gonna shoe horn his beliefs into it. Shoehorning your own bias is only a problem when you're supposed to be an objective reviewer. He's quite ostensibly not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:07:07 2014 No.2137967 >>2137960 An "objective reviewer" is a contradiction though, since reviewing is ultimately just giving your opinion.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:09:53 2014 No.2137973

>>2137967

Not really. There are a lot of objective truths when reviewing a game. Mechanically speaking. Poor controls, poor graphics, bugs glitches etc.

A review is more sharing your experience rather than your bias. And a good reviewer will be able to keep their personal preferences out of it.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Dec 22 16:13:51 2014 No.2137987

Point is, HG101 authors too often incorporate their own perception of a game's quality when they ought to keep overview articles and reviews separate. The former introduces politics regarding how a game will be perceived (should I play? should I not? is it generally accepted as quality or crap? could another writer have influenced popular opinion differently?). Some readers don't want to know how a game's perceived, just if the game might be worthwhile for them to play. Flinging your opinion around can be impressive *and* unhelpful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:16:18 2014 No.2137991 >>2137960 I want to hear an opinion on the graphics or gameplay not your views on SJW bullshit

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:27:45 2014 No.2138008

>>2137973
>poor controls
>poor graphics
These things are subjective because you need an external subject to judge whether something is poor or not. If you take all subjectivity out of a review all that's left are technical specs.

>A review is sharing your experience
>There are a lot of objective truths when reviewing a game
These two statements are contradictory. Your experience is not objective.

>>2137991
Then go to a different site. Read things written by people whose tastes are similar to yours.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:34:51 2014 No.2138024

>>2138008
>Read things written by people whose tastes are similar to yours.
Their tastes shouldn't fucking matter at all, that's the fucking point. Just because an experience is subjective doesn't mean that other people cannot learn from it. Every reviewer's experience being subjective is not an excuse for writing useless and uninformative articles that tell me more about what a fucking whiner the reviewer is than the actual game itself.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:49:30 2014 No.2138052
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>>2138008
>These things are subjective

No they're not. If a game is a buggy poorly optimized mess with control issues it just that. If it looks like it's from two generations ago it's not an opinion that's the case.

Really I bet you think the Gorn is only subjectively bad too.

>not your views on SJW bullshit
>SJW
>waaaaaaaah the tumblr boogie man is out to get me.

really you people crying about SJW are just as bad as the SJW themselves.

>Their tastes shouldn't fucking matter at all, that's the fucking point

except they should when that's what they're fucking writing about it shit head. They're not writing reviews for a living the way IGN does. IT's a fucking Blog so people can share their own thoughts on games. No more no less.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 16:56:27 2014 No.2138059

>>2138052
Look up what the words objective and subjective mean. Even if every person in the world agrees that game x is shit, it's still a subjective judgement because the state of being shit is not inherent to the game itself. Words like good and bad describe how an object is perceived by a subject, not the object itself.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:07:46 2014 No.2138082

>>2138059

>adj. not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.

It is a fact that a game controls bad
It is a fact that a game does not live up to standards set by it's era or peers.
It is a fact that a story can be full of holes and contradict itself.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:33:38 2014 No.2138116

>>2138052
>They're not writing reviews for a living the way IGN does.
HG101's article writers get paid. But that shouldn't matter either way, whether you write something "for a living" or not doesn't affect your ability to not suck at it. As evidenced.

Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean that other people have to accept it. "Subjectivity" doesn't stop a person from being a shit writer or a review from being a shit review.

So which awful HG101 contributor are you?

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:33:59 2014 No.2138117

>>2138052
>calling valis hentai game misogynst
>not sjw bullshit
look I know its a buzzword but just because it applies to the situation doesn't mean it's just a scapegoat. >>2137562 is SJW bullshit it doesn't tell me about the game at all it's just the authors whining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:35:18 2014 No.2138123 >>2132381 Some of the articles aren't very good, but otherwise the site seems fine to me. What needs to be fixed?

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:45:32 2014 No.2138139

>>2138116
>HG101's article writers get paid.

I know it' hard to accept but people often do get paid to write OPINION pieces.

>Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean that other people have to accept it.

they also don't have to go online and throw a bitch fit about it because someone disagreed with them on a shitty eroge game. it works both ways dingus.

>So which awful HG101 contributor are you?
>Hur durrr you don't agree with me so that means you're HG101

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:58:14 2014 No.2138167 >>2138139 We don't actually know if the game is shitty or not because of the authors whining.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 17:59:42 2014 No.2138169 >>2138167 it's a nukige visual novel, dude, theres very little to talk about

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:01:48 2014 No.2138173 yo fags need to sotp arguing about feminism and use all that free time to go get laid or something LMAO

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:05:06 2014 No.2138179

>>2134118

>Get rid of elitism

Here is where I'm going to have to disagree. I doubt you'll check this thread ever again but I feel like I should say this.

Elitism may come with some incredible assholes but it also keeps the retards out. Sure some people take it too far and I once thought elitism was stupid too. Then /v/ changed for the worse, people now use emoticons unironically and no one calls them out for their shit. There is also normalfags EVERYWHERE.

The reason /jp/ is the same exact way it was about eight years ago is because of their elitism. Now we don't have to be THAT elitist as /jp/ but we need it too keep the idiots out. I'd rather a few assholes than a board full of idiots. Like /v/ does now.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:08:47 2014 No.2138183

>>2138052
>>2138139
>waaaaaaaah the tumblr boogie man is out to get me.
>really you people crying about SJW are just as bad as the SJW themselves.
Dude, they bullied into submission a guy that made the feat of the year, if not of the decade because of his choice of attire.
That's something you don't have to be a /pol/ack or a /v/irgin to smell the bullshit.

>Hur durrr you don't agree with me so that means you're HG101
Getting so riled up on a board that generally doesn't give a fuck about this, while having a radically different opinion to almost the entire site paints you as an outsider.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:11:01 2014 No.2138189 >>2138183 >Dude, they bullied into submission a guy that made the feat of the year, if not of the decade because of his choice of attire. source?

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:11:30 2014 No.2138190
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>>2138179
>The reason /jp/ is the same exact way it was about eight years ago is because of their elitism.
/jp/ is a shadow of his former self, thanks to moot treating it like his personal dumping ground instead of leaving them alone.
Nowadays is more like some sort of anime general board.

There is a reason he got essentially kicked out the last time he posted there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:12:32 2014 No.2138191 >>2138179 wasnt jaypee originally a containment board for banned /a/ tripfags way to be elitistic about fucking nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:12:33 2014 No.2138193 >>2138189 I think he's referring to the Shirtgate thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:14:00 2014 No.2138196 >>2138189 Google "Shirtstorm".

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:18:04 2014 No.2138202

>>2138190
I wasn't aware of this. That's sad. Still they manage to be better than /v/ and /pol/.

>>2138191
I don't actually remember to be honest though I wouldn't take that as any truth until you put some sort of proof. That being said many containment boards almost always end up being better than the board it spawned off of.

Like this one, /vg/, /m/, ect

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:19:31 2014 No.2138203 >>2138202 >post proof ah nah believe what you want

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:21:31 2014 No.2138205 >>2138203 Well I mean It's not like that doesn't sound believable but I'd love some background on it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:24:53 2014 No.2138210 File: 24 KB, 380x223, Chris_Plante_380.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2138193 >>2138196 I'm not surprised that the guy who started the whole Shirtstorm thing is a moron who writes for Polygon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:28:04 2014 No.2138217 >>2138205 back in the day the jay was tripfag blogposting central, but now theyr all gone, but i wont bother proving because ull just say im a newfag getting information from encyclopedia dramatica anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:32:10 2014 No.2138223 >>2138217 Not really I don't give a shit where you got it. If anything your spelling and the fact you used the word "newfag" would make me believe that. But that being said I don't give a fuck if you're new or not as long as you're not a retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:47:35 2014 No.2138239 >>2138202 /vg/ is awful it's a constant circle jerk where they don't even bother having any discussion. Everybody just says their opinion and nobody actually responds to each other

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:48:07 2014 No.2138242

>>2138116
The real question is which awful hg101 contributor date raped you to make you repeat the same shit over and over, not just in this thread but every one of the billion hg101 threads over the past couple months.

We get it, you don't like the site. That's perfectly understandable. Now shut up or say something new. Or better yet put your money where your mouth is and write something to prove what a master of the literary and critical form you are. Oh wait that would mean you'd have to stop shitposting temporarily.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 18:53:12 2014 No.2138251 >>2138179 /jp/ isn't eight years old, not even close.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 19:10:46 2014 No.2138273 >>2138251 I'm pretty sure /jp/ was around in 08. Time flies man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 19:14:30 2014 No.2138276 >>2138273 Just did some researching, /jp/ was MADE in 08. http://tanasinn.info/wiki/Complete_History_of_4chan I couldn't remember myself exactly when it was made I just knew it was around then

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 19:16:42 2014 No.2138282 >>2138242 Wow, you're really upset.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 19:19:57 2014 No.2138294 >>2138282 Annoyed is a better word for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 19:20:40 2014 No.2138296 >81 unique users in this thread. I wonder how many of them are also regulars in the HG101 forum or even possible contributors.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 19:53:04 2014 No.2138369

>>2138296
I don't really go to HG101 anymore.

It was good, but the thing is its pretty worthless to me. They mostly have articles on obscure-but-not-that-obscure games, and their articles range from sjw bullshit to walls of facts about development and other tidbits of information I couldn't give less of a fuck about. Thats the nature of sites like these sites is that there are authors you like, and it seems like they rarely or never post articles compared to the guy you hate who just keeps pumping them out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 20:09:27 2014 No.2138397 >>2138369 yeah pretty much, theres no point in reading retro reviews when theres a rom download only 5 minutes away

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 20:13:38 2014 No.2138407

I mostly used the site for screenshots to see how the ports stacked up. I don't think I have ever actually read anything on there except for the chrono trigger article I was referred to when I asked why it was so bad. I can see where people are coming from though, that article wouldn't have even got you a passing grade in high school. I didn't know a review was supposed to start with 3 paragraphs of personal anecdotes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 20:48:01 2014 No.2138453 I hate that they use black background and white letters. It's like you have to stop reading from time to time and look away to avoid going blind or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 20:57:13 2014 No.2138464 >>2132405 You shouldn't be, though. Throw these motherfuckers out on their collective asses

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 20:59:42 2014 No.2138469 >>2138453 what the fuck? white letters on a black background is actually easier on your eyes because you are absorbing less photons from the dimmer screen.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 21:20:46 2014 No.2138487

>>2138169
To be completely honest, the moral outrage seems like a convenient excuse to not talk about the game because the writer probably didn't know enough Japanese to get the story.
He could have mentioned how it plays, if there's multiple endings, a point system of any kind, and he should have discussed the changes made to the Valis plot, how far into the story it goes, what's the setting, ANYTHING AT ALL. Instead we get that it's "filth" and that's it. There's a lot to talk about visual novels in terms of story, and all we really know about Valis Cross from that article is that a character shows up early and that it's a remake of some sort. Very unprofessional.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 21:44:55 2014 No.2138519
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>>2137562
Ironically you can find much more thorough information on Valis X on the gamefaqs review section - http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/970946-valis-x-full-set-pack/reviews/review-155775

It's a review by "thesammies", and I can't help but wonder if that's Sam Derboo. If it's him I can't imagine why he would do such an immature job for HG101. That review expresses dislike for the game but argues it well (it's mostly due to it being nukige but still) and has a more detailed plot summary and discusses the gameplay.

HG101 should just contact whoever wrote that and use that information on their site, and also learn that if you dislike something you can still talk about it without going "ewww more like valis GROSS". I mean we're not 5 people.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:02:55 2014 No.2138530 [DELETED]

>>2138052
>waaaaaaaah the tumblr boogie man is out to get me.
They've engaged in mass censorship, doxxing, swatting, secret collusion, coordinated propaganda efforts, information manipulation and general abuse of power, with the goal of transforming of the game industry into something more to their liking.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Mon Dec 22 22:03:49 2014 No.2138532

>>2136493
Looking forward to it!

>>2137562
He has a lot of guilt I'm guessing. Anytime he talks about women in games it's a laugh riot.

That being said, Valis X is kind of disgusting if you're not into goblin rape and preggo porn. It was a waste of an excellent opportunity to have a hentai Valis game.

>>2137589
There's an Arcus Odyssey one too.

>>2137636
>>2137651
My niggas.

>>2138296
I'm here because it's amusing.

>>2138487
>>2138519
Nah he knows Japanese, he just didn't bother to play it because he hates pornography and "objectification of women." Based on how much the lady doth protest, I imagine that secretly he goes home and watches Rocco Siffredi pornos every day after work.

Also from what anyone can tell he's shit at action games, that's another reason he hates God Hand and anything by Platinum, he's just no good at them.

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:06:34 2014 No.2138539

>>2138519
http://www.gamefaqs.com/X1/977250-177/reviews/review-153082
>Just to be very clear, this game is highly pornographic and will disturb people who are sensitive about the subject of rape. It is not a game for the feint of heart and contains both violent and sexual material that is not appropriate for younger audiences. The game even looks cute with its cartoonish 8-bit graphics, but it is not a normal game. If you are too young to play this game or are sensitive about the issue of rape, then you might want to skip this game.

>Japanese 8-bit computers… Who would have known that you could have so many depraved pornographic fleshfests on such primitive hardware? When I say depraved, I really mean depraved. 177 is not one of those games where the sex is consensual and tasteful. Not every fleshfest is going to be depraved, but 177 takes the word to a whole new level.

>In 177, rape is the name of the game. No, really. In Japan, 177 is the police code for rape. And that's exactly what you will be doing in this game. That's right, 177 is a rape simulator years and years before Rapelay hit the rape scene. As sad as it is, yes there is an audience for rape games. There had to be, because this game was remade for other old Japanese computers. It even got a remake.

It's Derboo alright.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:19:00 2014 No.2138559 >>2138539 People who actually don't view pornography don't have an obsession with reviewing it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:29:14 2014 No.2138568 >>2138532 >I'm here because it's amusing. I meant other HG101 regulars. Are they aware this thread even exists?

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Mon Dec 22 22:37:28 2014 No.2138582 >>2138568 Heheh, sorry. I've mentioned the thread a couple of times on the IRC channel and I know some of the guys were at least reading the thread. I don't think anyone's posted, though, they're shy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:46:36 2014 No.2138592 >>2138582 Does Bedwetter at least knows about the thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:48:02 2014 No.2138594 >>2132381 >Gentlemen.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Mon Dec 22 22:51:58 2014 No.2138602 >>2138592 Which one, you have to be more specific. >>2138539 Isn't 177 the one where if you rape the girl she marries you? And you have to kill turtles and shit with rocks?

Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:55:38 2014 No.2138609

>>2138532
>Nah he knows Japanese, he just didn't bother to play it because he hates pornography and "objectification of women."

To be fair I don't really want to play it much either.

Something about taking a non porn series and making it a porn game just comes off as...desperate

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon Dec 22 22:57:28 2014 No.2138615 >>2138602 Yeah, 177 was an action game by Macadamia Soft (eroge imprint of dB-SOFT). That middle quote about J-PCs being "depraved" still makes me cringe. How advanced is Derboo's Japanese? I know he's got dat Korean in the bag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 22 22:58:39 2014 No.2138616 >>2138602 >Which one, you have to be more specific. By Bedwetter, I meant Nightdreamer.

Oakland Mon Dec 22 23:51:05 2014 No.2138694

>>2138615
>>2138602
>>2138539
177 is hilarious in hindsight. Read the interview about it in Spec's book and it's even admitted when they made the game, nobody really thought much about it, even the women working on the game, and at the end the main character actually loses(or wins depending on how you see the game).

Hold on, I can post some of the interview from the book.

Oakland Mon Dec 22 23:58:17 2014 No.2138704

>>2138694
And I don't even know John's last name. Szczepaniak...

Anywho. Some exeprts from Yasuhito Saito's interview. He was the programmer for 177.

>There were no concerns at all from the company. Especially people from the sales department were happy when it became a topic in the Japanese Diet (deals with Laws) because they thought it'd sell well. And it did sell well, not just well, but greatly.

>He proposed the idea for 177 and I was designated main programmer and the graphic designer was a woman.

>We didn't think we were making something bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:03:08 2014 No.2138708 >>2132381 let it die it was never good

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue Dec 23 00:04:19 2014 No.2138709

>>2138704
I theorize Szczepaniak's a Red Lectroid—now I can dub him John Whatever.

Macadamia Soft was an effective cash-grab for the company, it sounds like. Forgivable: the Erikawas departed from making eroge once Nobunaga no Yabou and Sangokushi hit big. dB-SOFT later made acclaimed games like Melroon and Flappy 2 anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:05:07 2014 No.2138712 >>2132913 most of the articles are complete shit and if a game from a series of games that were otherwise only released in Japan were released in the US he is always like "it's bad" with no reason. He's a try hard moron.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:08:43 2014 No.2138716 [DELETED]

>>2138712
oh, and the constant refering to games by their japanese names even if they were released in english and the english version is well known, and the hating on western releases of japanese games even when they are the exact same fucking god damn game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:13:27 2014 No.2138721 >>2132398 other than the forums the entire site is written by one extremely autistic guy.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:15:12 2014 No.2138724
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>>2138559
That's why I like Brad Jones from the Cinema Snob. He reviews porn and isn't all sanctimonious about it.

But yeah. This Sammy guy on GameFAQs has a whole archive of porn games for old Japanese PCs. Why would anyone willing seek out shitty porn games so he could write scathing reviews about them as if they're such a big threat to social decency?
>A long time ago, Enix produced games on cassette tapes. Mari-chan Kiki Ippatsu was one of them, roughly translated to Mari-chan's close call, is one that they probably want you to forget. Just to be very clear, Mari-chan Kiki Ippatsu is a game with pornographic content and themes of violence, torture, and death. It is not a game for the faint of heart and such heavy themes should be taken seriously by those who might be offended by it.

Oakland Tue Dec 23 00:17:44 2014 No.2138729
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>>2138724
I wonder how he thinks about El Dorado Denki, I forgot who wrote the review on the site.

It's probably one of the most innocent/tame adult games I can think of. Sure they're naked, but it's nothing outrageous.

Also, this should be safe, I don't think there's a nipple in this. It's hard to tell from the thumbnail.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:19:06 2014 No.2138731 >>2138724 I was going to say for amusement... but if he is really writting seriously scathing reviews then I dunno... what a dope.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:22:55 2014 No.2138735 >>2138539 oh god, I am laughing so hard right now.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue Dec 23 00:34:27 2014 No.2138741

Not sure why Derboo would post reviews on GameFAQs. He doesn't always throw random shit like this:

>Cool Fact- Riglas was developed and published by Random House. Yes, this is the same Random House that publishes books. They made a few quality games. I kind of wish they were still in the video game business.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/FM7/957009-riglas/reviews/review-159631

Guy apparently plays these games while knowing little about them? Random House was the collaboration between programmer Kazuro Morita and writer Yuta Ramon. Interesting to see more opinions for games like this, but I think Japanese fansites are more genuine (maybe the author's joking, but it's a lame reference if so).

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:35:28 2014 No.2138742

>>2138539
>>2138724

this person must have had one weird childhood
>Back when I was a kid, there was this game the other kids would play after school called “Doctor”. It's where one kid pretends to be sick and the doctors and nurses have to cure the sick one. The sick kid will usually have to undress because doctors always make you undress and press that cold stethoscope on your chest. Parents didn't want their kids playing Doctor because it meant them undressing in front of each other.

I don't remember anyone undressing to play doctor...

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:44:47 2014 No.2138751

>>2138731
>>2138742
>>2138729
I did find one moderately positive review of a porn game.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/FM7/956871-alpha/reviews/review-155618
>Square and Enix made some of the most beloved JRPGs of all time. They also used to make porn. While Enix put out the abysmal Mari-Chan Kiki Ippatsu and Lolita Syndrome, Square made something that was actually competent. Okay, Alpha isn't great by any means, but it does what it's trying to do well and handles its adult content in a much less immature way than Enix's stuff.

>Alpha was one of Square's earliest games and it starred an action heroine with a gun and a really skimpy outfit. She loses that outfit a few times in the story. It's a little shocking at first to think that Squaresoft used to make games with sexual content, but once you get used to it, it's not that bad. It's really no worse than anything else on the FM7. In fact, it's comparatively tame. Wow, rape is tame compared to naked child molestation adventures of My Lolita and Christine? The FM7 had some really screwed up stuff on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 00:51:16 2014 No.2138761 >>2138724 >>2138742 >>2138751 This guy has to be a dedicated troll.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 01:20:59 2014 No.2138786 Friendly reminder to hide all not-retro-video games threads. Do not reply to not-retro-video games posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 01:33:23 2014 No.2138803 >>2138761 Most of his non-porn game reviews seems pretty straight though. He gave Plumbers Don't Wear Ties a 5/10.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 02:24:55 2014 No.2138849

>>2137562
I'm more pissed that their really crippled "playable women in video games" articles gloss over the Valis series as "ick; a series where women wear bikinis. I guess its okay because she's not tentacle raped in the old games, so we'll begrudgingly accept her as a good character"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 02:50:11 2014 No.2138876 >>2138803 that's pretty generous

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 03:41:55 2014 No.2138963 >>2138876 And he gave Night Slave a 10/10 and that's a genuinely good action game, regardless of the hentai scenes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 06:34:08 2014 No.2139129 >>2138469 The problem comes when they're the only ones doing it, and you get blinded by attempting to read any other website shortly after.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:07:33 2014 No.2139150 >>2138963 >genuinely good action game, regardless of the hentai scenes And normally hentai scenes mean something is not a good game? How's church every week?

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 07:38:54 2014 No.2139165
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>>2138082

I've honestly never understood this argument. A game review cannot be "objective." Even if you stick to very basic, mostly agreeable observations ("this game controls badly;" "this game has below-average graphics"), which are still subjective evaluations by the way, you can't actually write a game review that way.

Like if your game is a buggy mess with shitty graphics and awful controls then sure, there you go, but if your game is just average, or has interesting aspects in spite of technical limitations, how are you supposed to write about it "objectively"? Do you really want to read an "objective" review of XenoGears or Katamari Damacy? Hell, an "objective" review of anything would be boring and unhelpful as shit.

"This game has reasonably agreeable controls. Its graphics quality is what one would expect from this console generation. It is an action game with RPG elements. The protagonist is a male with a hat. It lasts roughly 12 hours."

Wow. Whenever people use this argument I can't help but assume they really mean "I want opinions that are more in line with mine." When they say "objective" they really mean "subjective evaluations that me and other 'core gamers' will mostly agree with." It's basically another "waaah other people are ruining my video games" screed.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Tue Dec 23 08:26:07 2014 No.2139190

>>2138609
It is, and the fact that it was the last stuff licensed by Telenet makes it seem even more desperate. But at the same time, at least it's honest about what would happen if Yuko got captured or whatever.

>>2138615
I think both he and Kurt are pretty proficient, at least well enough to play through games and/or read articles and comprehend them.

>>2138694
The way the Japanese portray rape is hilarious, it's surreal.

>>2139150
To be fair, most hentai-themed action games or whatever have the gameplay take a back seat to the fuck scenes, so it could be read that way.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 08:54:40 2014 No.2139208

>>2139165
What people dislike aren't opinions, but when some reviewer goes onto a diatribe about something barely related to the game at all, try to compare completely different genres or show lack of basic knowledge about what they're reviewing. Examples include:
- The guy who reviewed God Hand (PS2) when he only played the first stage
- Saying Mario Kart 8 is bad because it isn't more like Mario Party (wat)
- Saying a character is <insert inflammatory comment here> without really considering the character itself. Like the guy who said Kung Pao (Divekick) was a racist stereotype, when it's obvious to almost everyone who played a videogame that it's a parody of Kung Lao.

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 09:36:40 2014 No.2139240

>>2139190
>To be fair, most hentai-themed action games or whatever have the gameplay take a back seat to the fuck scenes, so it could be read that way.

That's not true at all. Most H games are some kind of RPGs and they have tons of gameplay content (or grinding) with the H scenes serving as a reward for getting far.

I don't really fault anyone for not being familiar with them, most of them don't leave Japan, but still.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 09:53:14 2014 No.2139253 >>2139240 >Most H games are some kind of RPGs more like VNs actual fully realized hentai rpgs with world maps and inventory screens are pretty rare

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:13:27 2014 No.2139264 >>2139253 Rance Brave Soul That alchemy game Big Bang Age Desire Dungeon Raidy 1 & 2 Pocket Girl Hunter That dungeon siege clone Queen Opala Dark Wind That Dragon Quest clone where the girls try to seal you

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:18:24 2014 No.2139269

>>2139264
good call
>Rance
>That alchemy game (kamidori?)
>Big Bang Age
but these are all sengoku type games played thorugh a visual novel like menu interface
i still think the vast majority are vns rather than jayperguers but good call nonetheless
>Queen Opala
>Dark Wind
rpg maker shit, really?

Joseph Joestar AFK Tue Dec 23 10:34:21 2014 No.2139281

>>2139240
Ah you know what I mean :). What I was getting at was what >>2139253 said; there's some really awesome H-games with fully-developed RPG, strategy, or action elements on top of the VN portions, but they're few and far between compared to either straight up VN-type games, or what amount to fuck scenes tacked onto Sierra's Manhunter (not that it's necessarily a bad thing).

At any rate, I think we can all agree though that having fucking as a feature in a game isn't a bad thing like Dur Boo Monster alleges.

>>2139264
Dude, how could you leave out Toushin Toshi II and Dragon Knight III?!?

I love Alicesoft.

Joseph Joestar AFK Tue Dec 23 10:39:34 2014 No.2139284

>>2139281
* and ELF company (sorry, left that out).

>>2138616
Sorry for the delayed response - I have him blocked on the forum and Twitter, and don't see him on the IRC channel anymore, so I dunno. It's a shame, he was going to be helping Snarboo with translations for the Taiwanese "L-Man" game for an article, not sure if that's gonna happen anymore.

BTW, as another delayed response, one of the reasons I initially thought he was cool was that he was really into the NBA, and we were both Pacers fans.

>>2138709
That would explain his EM and Wi-Fi sensitivity. Sorry, low blow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:40:35 2014 No.2139287 >>2139264 Wow, I didn't realize that that handful of games you posted represented the majority of H-games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:49:25 2014 No.2139294 >>2139287 He said "pretty rare".

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:51:13 2014 No.2139298 >>2139294 Uh, obviously I'm talking about the guy I was quoting not the other guy. >Most H games are some kind of RPGs

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 10:56:38 2014 No.2139304 >>2139298 Ah, ok.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:08:21 2014 No.2139321 >>2139208 >What people dislike aren't opinions Yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:08:23 2014 No.2139323 >>2138742 >I don't remember anyone undressing to play doctor Nah that's normal I used to play doctor with my stepdad all the time

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:28:47 2014 No.2139341 >>2139150 I meant the game is still playable even if you're not playing to fap to the H scenes. Jesus Christ. Don't assume everyone is a SJW or Puritan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 11:30:12 2014 No.2139345 >>2139150 >normally hentai scenes mean something is not a good game Yes, it does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 12:10:32 2014 No.2139385 >>2139298 Oh, there I mean "most H games with gameplay". Sorry. >>2139341 Okay. But clearly someone is >>2139345

Anonymous Tue Dec 23 13:05:10 2014 No.2139497

>>2139284
>Sorry for the delayed response - I have him blocked on the forum and Twitter, and don't see him on the IRC channel anymore, so I dunno. It's a shame, he was going to be helping Snarboo with translations for the Taiwanese "L-Man" game for an article, not sure if that's gonna happen anymore.
What about the other forum regulars mentioned in this thread?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue Dec 23 13:24:08 2014 No.2139536

>>2139190
See, Kulata's mostly played text adventures with English-character parsers, and whatever Japanese the games have (Dezeni Land and Hummingbird Soft Adventure #0) is limited to katakana and hiragana by technical constraints. Many of the early graphical text adventures have visual stories easier to read than VNs at a later date. Derboo's most likely better with the language, being able to understand the oldest Japanese CRPGs, but I haven't seen him tackle anything complex like a Takiya Iijima game (Last Armageddon or Burai AL/MZ specifically).

I'm not going to rule out TheSAMMIES, either, since I know of no one who might see the value in reviewing Riglas on GameFAQs. Guy might know Japanese and is just curious about the older PC games...I'm seeing this with Kimimi, also.

Joseph Joestar AFK Tue Dec 23 13:35:38 2014 No.2139571

>>2139497
I don't think Kurt or Derboo know about it. I'd mention the thread but didn't get much of a response after I brought up that one a couple months ago, and considering what's gone on since ("that thing" you can't talk about) you're less likely to get a response. Kurt DID mention an ochochan thread on Twitter though, since they said he'd gone full SJW.

Overall though, the folks I've talked to about this thread are happy to hear the (positive and negative) feedback. They just don't have the balls or the ego or the self-loathing that I do to post here. I know Sotenga's been by here a couple of times, he was flattered by Don's request.

>>2139536
I would agree with that assessment; I'm not 100 percent sure of the extent but Derboo's got a measure of Chinese language ability too. I don't like the guy, but I definitely respect that about him, that and he's brought a lot of good/interesting "matter of fact" stuff to the table.

As for language, I might have to hit you up for good PC games to get started on, I'm finally getting around to getting serious with moon grammar and need the practice.

I stopped following Kimimi on Twitter because her collection makes me want to kill myself out of shame. It's like that with "Idolmaster" on Twitter too but we get along pretty well so I forgive him for having a god-tier collection.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue Dec 23 13:44:01 2014 No.2139583

>>2139571
Derboo, for all the crap y'all give him, is responsible for most of what I know about old Korean games, and his articles are very detailed and great until he tries to review a game 3/4 of the way through. Kimimi's interesting. Great collection, and he's going to start playing stuff through Project EGG which is neat, but his write-ups (aside from Tuned Heart) could use work. Not sure if he's taking the old game odyssey that seriously, however.

Shumplations, btw, is a great site for looking up old game interviews. The owner's translated some very interesting articles covering the Ys' games' development, with comments from Hashimoto and Miyazaki (the programmer/director and the scenarist who later formed Quintet). Going to share it here: http://shmuplations.com/ys/

Japanese practice is going to be my New Year's Resolution, too. Otherwise I'll be unable to play most of the games I'll need to cover. Finding the Windows Sokoban games could also be a pain, will have to see if I can locate copies on auction sites or Suruga-ya.

Joseph Joestar AFK Tue Dec 23 16:28:10 2014 No.2139790

>>2139583
Heheh, sorry, my negativity is showing. I definitely have a lot of respect for the guy from a professional standpoint. I'm not even all that bothered about his opinions regarding sexism in games or whatever. Mostly I'm bothered because he has no sense of humor and is always shutting down the threads with the funniest arguments. I'm petty like that.

BTW, kimimi's a girl :). I was teasing in her case - she's very nice and always has interesting pictures from her collection or topics of discussion. I wish she still posted on the Hg101 forum, but she's pretty busy now.

As for Japanese, best of luck in your studies - that was my new year's resolution and I didn't get serious until a month or two ago. I'd started studying Japanese back in college but stopped, so I've been stuck at "can read but not understand" for a while.

Lastly, I need to make a YAJ or Suruga-ya purchase soon while the dollar's still strong, but I'm terrified after the gameboy holocaust during my last order. I'll let you know if I see those sokoban games during my searches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 23 16:31:07 2014 No.2139792 File: 11 KB, 337x328, 1419188530727.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Checking out this thread for the first time

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue Dec 23 16:53:43 2014 No.2139831

>>2139790
Titles of the Windows Sokoban-license games:

•倉庫番セレクション (Sokoban Selection, ITOCHU, 1997 on Win95/Mac OS FD)
•倉庫番スペシャル102 (Sokoban Special 102, ITOCHU, 1998 on Windows FD)
•究極の倉庫番 (Ultimate Sokoban, ITOCHU, 1998 on Windows CD-ROM)
•倉庫番 (Sokoban, Unbalance, 2000 on Windows CD-ROM)
•倉庫番難問指南 (Sokoban Challenge Teaching, Unbalance, 2000 on Windows CD-ROM)

http://www.sokoban.jp/history.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 15:08:21 2014 No.2141330 >>2138296 Not a regular on the site, though I have contributed two articles there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 24 15:10:45 2014 No.2141337 >>2139583 Shumplations is so damn good. I always wanted to do a similar site translating commentary and interviews about older video games (since I did my fair share of translations), but never got around to doing it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 02:20:19 2014 No.2142083

The Yumimi Mix review:
>Read this FAQ carefully, for instance, and you'll see that any choices that significantly impact the plot only arrive in the third act. American gamers at the time might not have been receptive to this game design. (They still aren't, if all the flak a game like Depression Quest got is anything to go by.)
Meanwhile the Clannad Kickstarter is sitting at $335,000 out of $140,000 with 15 days left to go. Does the author not know that visual novels are a substantial niche in the West, or is he pretending not to? Not to mention that Western developers also churned out choose-your-own-adventures and interactive movies in the 90s.

80s heroines article:
>Between Dontnod Entertainment's reports about how hard it was to convince publishers of their reasonably proportioned lead woman in Remember Me, and Ubisoft's claims that athletic female characters are just too difficult to animate to even bother, the video game industry paints a rather sad picture of its diversity. [...] Severe gender imbalance among game heroes does exist - never forget that for every single game listed here, there were literally hundreds of bulky barbarians, brash boy wonders, sly spy or ninja dudes and mustachioed plumbers...
They're either lying about the Ubisoft thing or didn't bother looking into it, and they lump the Western industry together with Japan's even though the latter is balls deep in female characters. Then there's the list itself which is full of whining about muh soggy knees.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 02:39:15 2014 No.2142105

>>2142083
The Ubisoft thing was a reference to the fake controversy regarding the lack of female playable characters in AssCreed Unity. Of course, what Ubisoft's explanation meant was that coming up with a female protagonist means having to do different cutscenes and dialogue for her. It's funny how derboo and his like conveniently ignore AssCreed Liberation when they accused the series of sexism.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 02:54:22 2014 No.2142110

>>2142083
>Does the author not know that visual novels are a substantial niche in the West, or is he pretending not to?

you can't really go by kickstarter numbers because a good portion of the backers likely paid many many times what the average cost of a game is.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 03:44:12 2014 No.2142143

>>2142105
Yeah, I know what they are referring to. I meant they could be outright lying about what actually happened.

>>2142110
It's already more than twice over the requested amount, and each backer (3,846) has paid 87 dollars on average. It was just a timely example anyway, and visual novels are in any case a substantial niche here. And VNs like planetarian and I! My! Girls! (both on Steam) don't even offer any choices at all. So perhaps the cause of Depression Quest's icy reception (outside of the game journalism intelligentsia) lies elsewhere...

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Thu Dec 25 12:38:46 2014 No.2142447 Derbü's been talking about the upcoming Suikoden article...I'm assuming he wrote all this: http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/suikoden/HG101%20Suikoden%20article.txt

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 13:03:13 2014 No.2142471 >>2142447 Didn't HG101 already had a Suikoden article?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Thu Dec 25 13:16:57 2014 No.2142484 >>2142471 Checked the forums: original author (not Derboo) wants to update it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 13:36:08 2014 No.2142501 >>2142447 Isn't Tir and Riou just names they used for the Suikoden protagonists in the novelizations and not actually their canon names? The article doesn't even acknowledge that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:32:10 2014 No.2142894 >>2139165 >A game review cannot be "objective." Course it can. People managed it perfectly well back in the 90s when they scored them based on the gameplay, graphics, music etc. It worked far better than the garbage we have today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:33:14 2014 No.2142898 >>2142894 >when they scored them based on the gameplay, graphics, music etc. Based on predefined criteria for each of these that is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:35:37 2014 No.2142904 >>2142894 >everything was better in the 90s have you ever even fucking read any of those reviews? also it was a pretty well known thing that most of those reviewers were getting paid by game companies for review one way or another.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:37:12 2014 No.2142908 >>2142894 >rating music That never made any sense in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:40:58 2014 No.2142914 >>2142908 I think it's easier to rate music objectively than it is games really or are you talking about rating music in games? if you can't apreciate good game music than you should be ashamed of yourself.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:42:09 2014 No.2142916

>>2142501
>Isn't Tir and Riou just names they used for the Suikoden protagonists in the novelizations and not actually their canon names?

Basically. They're more a nessacery than anything else.

Of course JRPG fans are fagots who need everything decided for them and couldn't role play if their lives depended on it. Persona fags especially

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:42:59 2014 No.2142917 >>2142914 i mean music being part of a game overall score i never considered mario music 10/10 stuff but that doesnt detract from the gameplay at all >appreciating game music would good music save a poor game? then silver surfer NES is a 10/10 any day

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:44:13 2014 No.2142919 >>2142904 Try future publishing from the uk. Superplay.used to reguarly crucify games and upset the publishers.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:44:43 2014 No.2142920

>>2142914
how the fuck do you rate music objectively? Take some technical death metal band like necrophagist. Probably some of the most skilled musicians ever, their understanding of music theory scales and that type of shit is really solid. Their music is technically solid but it's still boring as fuck. You can't be objective with music. Malmsteem probably one of the best guitarists ever and I still don't like his music that much.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:47:20 2014 No.2142923

>>2142904
>have you ever even fucking read any of those reviews?
Yes tons, I was playing games back then as well and still have a lot of magazines from that time.
>also it was a pretty well known thing that most of those reviewers were getting paid by game companies for review one way or another.
That's a 2000s thing mainly even if UKfags were complaining that overhype and magazine ads were the same as "selling out" cash in hand.
Back in the 80s/90s big companies had their own mags to push PR shit. Lucasarts had "The Adventurer" for instance.

But I was really thinking of the online reviewers in the 90s, Game-Revolution back in the day were great for example.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:47:21 2014 No.2142924 >>2142920 take some fucking music theory you are either a moron or a teenager

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:48:11 2014 No.2142927 >>2142924 If I don't like death metal, their songs are objectively bad to me no matter how skilled they get.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:48:33 2014 No.2142929 >>2142923 you nostalgia glasses are on way too tight bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:50:14 2014 No.2142934 >>2142923 if I iirc correctly working designs was the first to pull magazine coverage if they rated their games poorly during the sega cd era dont have the source but that was from a screenshot that gets posted around here in WD threads

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:50:25 2014 No.2142935 >>2142927 no... their songs would be SUBJECTIVEY bad to you, dear god, are you an idiot or just trolling?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:52:39 2014 No.2142937 >>2142935 Then anyone whos a professional musician cant be criticized because they are objectively better at playing instruments than the reviewer. Then nothing can be criticized ever because everything is objectively good if you put enough effort.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:52:49 2014 No.2142938

>>2142934
I did always wonder why ever magazine seemed to worship then even when their translations were shit, I'm probably going to get some hate from fanboys, but I never thought their translations were anywhere near as great as people always made out.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:53:44 2014 No.2142940

>>2142929
lel I hated the 90s.
Only thing bad about the now is newfag jackoffs like yourself who think game journalist articles claiming everyone back then was a shill (unlike them of course, as they're the morally righteous [popular political persuasion of the week]) are the same as the truth.
The sort of genuine cunts who cite Old Man Murray and talk about "the death of adventure games".

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:54:36 2014 No.2142942 >>2142937 still can't tell if you are trolling or just a moron, probably both.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:55:13 2014 No.2142943 >>2142938 yea it only reached cult status because good localizations were rare back at the time and they were the first to make collectors editions with artbooks and stuff

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:55:28 2014 No.2142945
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>>2142938
>I did always wonder why ever magazine seemed to worship then even when their translations were shit
Because the games they were translating were like a godsend to the scene of people who were lucky if they could get second-hand fandubbed anime.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:56:03 2014 No.2142947 >>2142940 hit the eggnog a bit hard today, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:57:20 2014 No.2142950 >>2142945 but the games they translated were often not even very good.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 18:59:31 2014 No.2142956

>>2142947
>eggnog
Pig disgusting.
Just getting real tired of 12 year old little amerishits coming on /vr/ to complain we aren't onboard with their failing adbait industries and retard politics only to tell us about what "really happened" back in the day.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:00:40 2014 No.2142960

>>2142945
but their translations are still worshipped today, so much so that they claim that other MODERN translations aren't as good as them. Yeah, I really love my games with horrible mis-interpetations and gross out humor thrown in for no good reason. Maybe it seems great at the time but it's a bit silly to hang onto their output as if it's still the best thing ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:01:26 2014 No.2142961 >>2142916 They had different names in the manga. The Suikoden I hero is called Louie McDohl and the one in II is named Tao.

Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:01:33 2014 No.2142962

>>2142950
>but the games they translated were often not even very good.
Roughly half their library are great titles like Alundra, Lunar, Arc the Lad, Popful Mail, Silhouette Mirage, Magic Knight Rayearth and the rest are mostly on niché platforms that didn't take off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:01:48 2014 No.2142963 >>2142956 what? sure are reading into things, eh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:03:22 2014 No.2142970 >>2142960 >but their translations are still worshipped today Give an example of one of those games being re-translated and people opting for Working Design translations anyway without extraneous factors like worsened voice acting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:03:47 2014 No.2142972 >>2142962 Arc the Lad is over rated as fuck and Magic Knight Rayearth is only loved by stupid fans that jack off over anything related to that anime/manga

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:04:47 2014 No.2142974 File: 65 KB, 600x445, Mulled-wine-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142963 Just commenting on the thread in general. Eggnog is disgusting though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:05:05 2014 No.2142975 >>2142970 look at here any given day for one thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:05:48 2014 No.2142978 >>2142975 So no actual examples then. About what I figured.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:06:58 2014 No.2142979 >thread is now about wd fascitng, do go on

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:11:24 2014 No.2142983 >>2142974 it was a joke, eggnog is a drink that is associated with the hollidays and sometimes has booze in it, stop being such an autist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:13:33 2014 No.2142986 >>2142978 the concept that I would scour the entire internet just to prove some moron wrong is rediculous and usually just an excuse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:15:15 2014 No.2142989 >>2142983 I'm aware of the "hitting the bottle" reference bucko, hence the mulled wine in response. >stop being such an autist Kek, he says while explaining jokes on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:17:02 2014 No.2142992 File: 37 KB, 223x223, 1418694488304.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142986 >can't argue his case even with an example >deflects and claims what was asked was archive links

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:19:11 2014 No.2142994 >>2142992 fuck off, this line of trolling isn't going to work here, go to /mu/ or something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:20:11 2014 No.2142995 >>2142989 fucking autist

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 19:27:49 2014 No.2143004 File: 1 KB, 46x52, accurate translations.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2142994 >arguments fail >you're just trolling!!!1 My sides

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 25 23:19:20 2014 No.2143298 >>2142924 Even if a song is "theoretically" really good it doesn't mean anything if people don't like listening to it. Music is extremely subjective, moreso than games or movies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 07:37:55 2014 No.2143678 So, did anyone figure out how to fix this site?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 08:03:34 2014 No.2143693 >>2143678 hire a proofreader

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 26 09:38:34 2014 No.2143767

>>2143678

What >>2143693 said, and add an article correction wiki. Nothing can be done about the feminist stuff sadly.

If at that point you (collective) still have a problem with the site, it's not for you. Accept it and move on.

BTW, Merry Christmas!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 16:37:03 2014 No.2144183 >>2132557 What kind of things you posted? About supporting GamerGate?

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 26 17:30:29 2014 No.2144284 >>2132557 Sorry for the late reply. If it is what I'm thinking of, I hope that I didn't inadvertently cause problems for you, man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 18:03:55 2014 No.2144341 Is it me or Christine Love Games article is another attempt for SJWs to promote their shitty indie games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 18:17:20 2014 No.2144364 >>2144341 I know Kurt unfollowed a few people he used to support on Twitter when they turned out to be pro-GG. Also, he's banning any GG discussion on the forums. http://ask.fm/hg_101

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 18:22:23 2014 No.2144374 >>2142935 >progressive metal musicians that are complex for the sake of complexity are objectively more better than classical composers as long as they are less complex great logic dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 26 18:25:25 2014 No.2144383 >>2142935 >progressive metal musicians that are complex for the sake of complexity are objectively better than classical music composers as long as the composers are less complex that the metal musicians great logic dude

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Fri Dec 26 19:39:26 2014 No.2144465

>>2144341
I've heard good things about her games from a writing standpoint from several people I whose opinions I trust, and are extremely moderate when it comes to political issues.

That being said, the guy that wrote the articles is very "progressive" based on my limited exposure to him and it wouldn't surprise me if that's the motivation to promote her games. Sucks, we finally get someone else who lives in Texas but they're a left-wing crusader, figures.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 04:12:04 2014 No.2145032

>>2144341
>>2144465

I absolutely fucking loved Digital but come the fuck on, it barely has any gameplay. I'd call it an interactive novel at best.
That doesn't mean I didn't like the writing, even if it was basically Hamlet: now with AIs. What makes it shine is the atmosphere.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 06:22:40 2014 No.2145174

>>2144364
No surprised when he replies like that at the forum:
>Next poster who uses the term "SJW" unironically is getting their avatar permanently changed to a picture of Anita Sarkeesian.
Yet he has no problem with SJW members that use terms like "manchilds" unironically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 08:22:15 2014 No.2145241 And now Kurt bans people without any warning. "Not banning GG supporters" my ass!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 09:14:57 2014 No.2145269 >>2137807 >Shocked they haven't done a piece of The Adventure of Little Ralph Yeah, that could give the game some good exposure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 10:15:37 2014 No.2145295 >>2132381 We can't. You will get banned even for dare critisizing some of their biased articles.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 10:45:48 2014 No.2145315 >>2145241 Nah I think that was the dreaded "Forum Nazi" that did that. Anyway, looking forward to my ban. >>2145269 I've heard a lot about it but never played it. Anyone here plan on writing about it?

>>	Vetus Sat Dec 27 10:49:45 2014 No.2145316 >>2145315 If that's the case, then ask the admin for me. I sent him a private message at Facebook but with no reply yet.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 11:10:36 2014 No.2145335 >>2145316 Sadly I don't think he's gonna budge. It's a tempban (I got one recently in my fight with pussymao), you'll be able to get back on in a week. Don't take it too hard, derboo hates everyone.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 11:14:50 2014 No.2145340

>>2145315
>Nah I think that was the dreaded "Forum Nazi" that did that.
You mean Onyx? I don't know how the hell he got to be a forum moderator, especially given his lack of actual interest in the site's subject matter. I guess being college buddies with Kurt has its perks, even if you're not suitable for the job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 11:26:25 2014 No.2145354 >>2145335 If it's temporary ban, then no problem. I will wait. Then I will make a backup for one thread of mine and never visit this site and forum again. I have fed up with this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 11:30:46 2014 No.2145358 >>2145340 Welp. Just realized he doesn't moderate the forum as much as anymore. >>2145354 Which is your username on the forum, if you don't mind divulging it?

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 11:41:32 2014 No.2145363

>>2145358
See >>2145316
I have been an active member there for many years and despite some disagreements and an older temporary ban (where it was partly my fault) I was still supporting it. But recently things went out of line with shit like the Hatred thread reactions. And now this ban was the finishing touch. Such a shame to see a wonderful site ruined by SJW shit.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 11:47:36 2014 No.2145367

>>2145358
Neh, Onyx is alright. He was a stickler for the rules but he's a really nice guy; I wish he'd stop by IRC more often. I shouldn't have said it, but there's a bunch of people that refer to a certain mod as that because of his mod behavior, and presumably his nationality (casual racism!).

As an answer to your question, my handle is Joseph Joestar on the forums and on the podcast.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 12:08:59 2014 No.2145389 >>2145335 Why were you banned if may I ask?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 12:21:26 2014 No.2145397 >>2145315 >>2145269 >>2137807 I just downloaded and started playing it because of this thread. This game is cool.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 12:37:20 2014 No.2145414

>>2145363
Yeah. They've been pretty harsh on you lately from what I can seen in the last few threads.
>Such a shame to see a wonderful site ruined by SJW shit.
I saw it coming years ago when destroyman got banned for making that "Lifetime: videogames for women" thread a couple of years ago.

It's funny how many of the users in that forum can get away with insulting or belittling each other, but the moment you're even moderately critical about feminism without being trollish about it, it's an instant thread closer.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 12:54:22 2014 No.2145427
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>>2145414
I don't remember that thread and I can't see it now since I'm banned. What was that thread about?

Months ago they also locked the thread for Ultionus: A Tale of Petty Revenge. The reason? The person who opened the thread talked about how the indie scene boycotted this game for being sexist. Which kinda makes sense since Ultionus has never been mentioned in any big site. Sure, it's not the perfect game but neither are most indie games that are covered at big sites.

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 13:01:12 2014 No.2145434

>>2145389
I was baiting this retard that was being an asshole to everyone, but I went overboard with the insults. I'm ok with it though, I deserved it, and it was a friend that did the banning.

>>2145414
I miss D-man, he was my kind of crazy. I always envisioned him as looking like Raul Julia as Gomez Addams.

>>2145427
IIRC he made some comments about peoples' lifestyles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 13:24:49 2014 No.2145442 >>2145434 >people's lifestyles zoey quinn? the whole internet was talking about her

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 13:45:49 2014 No.2145463 >he made some comments about peoples' lifestyles Huh?

Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 15:50:37 2014 No.2145617

>>2145442
>>2145463
I don't remember the specifics since it was years ago but he said some trans-phobic stuff and it got him tempbanned, and he just didn't come back.

>>2145397
Definitely need to check it out sometime, then. It's hard to dedicate time to stuff outside the podcast game of the month these days though.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat Dec 27 15:51:42 2014 No.2145619 >>2145617 The Japanese computer thread's up: >>2145543

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 16:08:47 2014 No.2145635

Hardcore Gaming 101 is a great site. But of course, shitposters on 4chan will shitpost about anything. I'm only sad to see this kind of trash thread on /vr/ of all places. That means the population is growing and that means it'll become total shit soon.

RIP /vr/

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 16:17:13 2014 No.2145647 >>2145635 Have fun spending all your time on the HG101 forums instead.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 16:20:10 2014 No.2145648

>>2138210

What kind of horrible human being do you need to be to start such a thing over something so trivial? I mean maybe he's jealous that all he'll ever accomplish in life is writing shitty clickbait where he insults the very thing that he is because he has no choice?

What a fucking cock-sucker.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 16:26:02 2014 No.2145653 >>2145619 I'm there, dude. >>2145635 Too late, again changes to total shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 16:26:59 2014 No.2145656 >>2132387 There has been one of you guys on this board saying this shit nearly everyday after like the first week it came up. If it's really turning into /v/ it's sure as hell taking its time doing it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 16:32:16 2014 No.2145662

>>2138190

A huge portion of 4chan is just sick and tired of his nonsense. He dumps on smaller boards, he wrecks larger boards in a bout of frustration. He constantly tries to suck up to the wrong kind of people (/fit/, /sp/), and then when he tries to make up for his mistakes, people don't want to give him the time of day because they know he's just going to do it again. So he gets frustrated at being unloved and does the very fucking thing that got him so hated in the first place. Again. He shits up another board.

90% of the people who don't hurl insults at him when he posts now are just people who flood into a thread he posts in because 'LOL TOASTING IN AN EPIC BREAD xDDDD' retards.

I promise you he's going to do something to /jp/ because they called him a faggot, a traitor, and a cuck and told him to fuck off last time he posted there.

I wish he'd just chill the fuck out for a while, unfuck the boards, stop messing with the community, and reign in these new staff members. He could do that, and with time just ease his way back into everyone's good graces.

>>2133830

Discourage shitposting. Call out non-/vr/ posts/do not respond to non-/vr/ posts with useful information. Discourage /v/-like behavior. Provide more OC.

Essentially what this anon said. I agree with all of it.>>2134115

But I don't agree with this >>2134118

>>2145656

There's been a lot of retards flooding in lately because of the Christmas break. There's also a bunch of shitheads trying to force GBA discussion with the idea that it should be /vr/ because 'Well it's mostly 2D!'

At least I haven't seen Kattfag in a while.

We shouldn't let the retards from /v/ get a foothold in here, or it's going to be console wars all the time, and 'le ebin maymay' posts everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 17:58:43 2014 No.2145807 >>2145434 >I miss D-man, he was my kind of crazy. I always envisioned him as looking like Raul Julia as Gomez Addams. He hangs out at the HerV forums now. I got his PSN ID if you want me to give it to you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 18:02:20 2014 No.2145813 >>2145807 what the fuck is herV?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 18:05:58 2014 No.2145818 >>2145662 >discourage >call out >make oc Nah, better to just ignore, a few years from now all your efforts to make a better board will be in vain as the userbase will have completely renovated itself. Just chill, guys.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Sat Dec 27 20:19:57 2014 No.2145985 >>2145807 Sure; Hope he's doing alright. He's the hero HG101 needs. Just not the one it deserves right now.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 20:38:12 2014 No.2146021

>I knew I was on to something when I needed to check their Valis article for some piece of art it was in, saw it was rewritten, and "lovely fanservice" was gone and MUHSOGGYKNEE showed up at places.
What? Now the author feels guilty for writing an article about a "sexist" francise and re-wrote it in order to please the female SJWs of the forum?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 20:39:09 2014 No.2146025 >>2145985 It's AllPesimo

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 20:40:15 2014 No.2146028 >>2145032 >tfw it was originally supposed to be an Uplink clone That would've made it so much better.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 22:47:43 2014 No.2146289

You know what I love about retro gaming? Bullshit drama like SJW crap on websites like this doesn't matter.

History is already written. All the games for these old consoles are out, they won't get more. And no matter how much they beg, or plead, or cry, they can't change history. Old Japanese Porn games will exist now and forever. Princess Maker 2 with nipples and all will exist now and forever (Presuming you add the uncensor patch). Mario finding a questionable item in Peach's dresser will exist now and forever. A Nintendo Power advertisement with a lewd Samus will exist now and forever.

It's too late for them, and I can sleep easily knowing that there is nothing they can do to ruin my hobby or try to change it to their needs. HG101 was nice, but there can be others, and there will be others. HG101 doesn't own the history of video games, nor the plethora of obscure games out there. And as long as passion exists for these, retro video games will endure even the mightiest shitstorm.

Anonymous Sat Dec 27 23:15:41 2014 No.2146349

>>2146021
Yup.

Article then: https://web.archive.org/web/20070519062549/http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/valis/valis.htm
Title was
>Valis: Anime babes fight evil in these side-scrollers.

Article now: http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/valis/valis.htm

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 23:17:53 2014 No.2146350 >>2146289 This. SJWs can use their critical theory all they want on retro games, but besides "shaming" them or whatever they can't really touch them. So our hobby is truly safe from policing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 27 23:27:23 2014 No.2146372 >>2146349 whats even the point of playing an ecchi game then if you hate eroticism

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 02:13:28 2014 No.2146561

>>2146349
To be fair, they hardly seem to be the same article anymore.

The new one, while full of whining about difficulty and such, at least goes a bit in-depth about each game's release and play mechanics rather than the brief one paragraph reviews they were in the old article, The new version even covers all the versions of the game rather than just the console entries, while the old one doesn't even seem to be aware that there were other Japanese computer formats besides the MSX.

As for the whole Valis Cross, derboo has a point (irrational hateboner for PlatinumGames notwithstanding).
>I disagree, for a number of reasons. Since this is a Valis article, first and foremost it has to be evaluated as a Valis product. (The irony of gamerdudes who can bitch and moan without end about Dante's redesign, Sonic's green eyes or the mere voicing of an idea that the protagonist in a game inspired by Mega Man could be made female, but as soon someone suggests that exploitative bizarro porn might not be the most faithful and dignified interpretation of a classic series, it's destroying games writing!) Beyond that, not all porn is exploitative, not all porn is fetish porn, and not all exploitative fetish porn is rape porn. That's a lot of qualifiers that need to be talked about.
He does oversimplify things with the Dina thing though...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 02:13:31 2014 No.2146562 >>2146350 Until they start cracking down on hosting sites and such and promoting editorials about how these old games are dangerous for the mind as they produce problematic tendencies.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 03:33:13 2014 No.2146630

>>2144465
Really?

I think the best part of her games are the interface - it really brings back memories of reading BBS and using command prompts.

Every game she wrote after Digital seems to me like she has a real lack of self-awareness and basically hammers her intended point in an unsubtle manner. It's like Captain Planet level of unsubtlely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 03:45:07 2014 No.2146645 >>2138190 Alot of people hated /jp/ and conspired to make it shittier, so no wonder most of the old userbase is probably gone. >>2145662 moot kinda feels sorry for /jp/ now that the whole site hates him now?

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 10:46:27 2014 No.2147017

>>2146561
>As for the whole Valis Cross, derboo has a point
He really doesn't. He's oversimplifying things here, too.

>Since this is a Valis article, first and foremost it has to be evaluated as a Valis product.
He's not assessing the quality of the game, he barely even acknowledges it beyond being repulsed by it. Also, this line of reasoning is bull. Gaiden/spin offs have to be evaluated on its own merits. Lamenting that Valis Cross is porn while evaluating its pros and cons as a nikuge is very much possible, as shown on >>2138519.
>as soon someone suggests that exploitative bizarro porn might not be the most faithful and dignified interpretation of a classic series, it's destroying games writing!
Nobody is saying this, and it's an assessment that's alarmingly far from reality. What people are saying is that if you're reviewing A FUCKING NUKIGE whining about how it's "gross" and "sexist" isn't necessary, it's just redundant. It's the genre. Of course it's going to objectify women, of course it'll be gross. Of course the whole plot will be about sex. But you can still talk about the game without just saying it's gross and leaving it at that. If you aren't able to handle cartoon fetish porn, then let someone else review the game. We learn virtually nothing from the game on his review beyond it being gross and having five episodes.

>That's a lot of qualifiers that need to be talked about.
Yet he doesn't. He just says it's gross. His gamefaqs review (if it's even his to begin with) is FAR better in this regard.

Also
>gamerdudes

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 11:04:58 2014 No.2147038

>>2146645
>Alot of people hated /jp/ and conspired to make it shittier, so no wonder most of the old userbase is probably gone.
yeah that's what i remember happening, an irc group of 18 year olds got fed up and completely rekt the /jay/
so much for truotaku elitism

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 12:28:23 2014 No.2147140 >>2147017 I'm not saying the Valis Cross review isn't full of dumb fanboyism and soggy knees, but you have to admit that someone who wanted another side-scrolling action game Valis and got a nukige instead would've been disappointed.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 13:25:29 2014 No.2147204

>>2146289
I won't disagree with you. It's just that I find it so disappointing that a site I used to love so much for years to make me hate it because the admin and his supporters suddenly want to force you their SJW agenda to the point to insult you just because you disagree with them. That shits belongs to modern gaming sites, not to sites mainly for old, obscure games.

Anyway, it was nice while it lasted. There are so many better alternative choices like /vr/, certain channels on YouTube etc, so I can deal without HG101.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 14:14:01 2014 No.2147281

>>2147140
That doesn't mean you have to write stuff like "more like Valis gross amirite!" and not talk about the game at all.

You CAN be disappointed and still talk in depth about the game. Which is what the gamefaqs review do. They outright say the writer is disappointed but he still explains how the game plays, the story, even production details. All of this info, which is relevant to people wanting to know about Valis and its fate, is glossed over on the HG101 article because it's sexist and gross.

And then Derboo excuses himself saying "dudebros" are mad because he's not celebrating nukige? How deluded can he be? All people are asking is that he talks about the game, saying "it's gross" and glossing over it is unprofessional and childish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 15:25:46 2014 No.2147379 >look up Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts article >Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is the third and best entry in the Ghosts 'n Goblins series. >best

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 15:35:58 2014 No.2147392

>>2147038

IRC groups of barely of-age retards wreck many of the boards for a period of time all the time.

There was a group pretending to be invaders from /a/ and shitting up /v/ for a while.

Though, how the hell would you even notice it happening there? Trolling /v/ is like shelling Hiroshima after the bomb.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 15:40:41 2014 No.2147398

>>2147204

I think most of the people into this hobby seriously, as in the people who will remain in the hobby after this current boom ends, do not care about this kind of stuff. HG101 will see it's traffic slow to a crawl after the hipsters get tired of retro gaming and move on.

Most of us are too old, and or too disinterested to buy into this crap that really just caters to teenagers and college students in their 20s.

It's sad to see HG101 start to piss on itself, but what are you going to do?

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 15:47:58 2014 No.2147413

>>2147392
the thing is that jp is elitist so its all more pleasurable to see them getting bfto
they are a bunch of assholes, really, they used to report doujinstyle mediafire links because they wanted to keep all doujin games to themselves or some stupid crap like that.
Serves them good.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 15:48:36 2014 No.2147416

>>2147379
>>Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts is the third and best entry in the Ghosts 'n Goblins series.
>>best

People say it's the best entirely because it was either their first, or the only one they've played. It's entirely due to the Super Nintendo being super popular.

Also it's the only one to have major slowdown (fixed in ports).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 16:13:47 2014 No.2147462 >>2147379 >>2147416 Am I the only fag who prefers Ghouls n Ghosts for the Genesis? It's strictly inferior, but it feels much more like the original game.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 16:45:17 2014 No.2147509

>>2146289
They wouldn't care if it's in old Japanese porn games, because in Erotica things are meant to be suggestive and sexual (I know that sounds redundant as hell) And SJWs are actually into sexual freedom, believe it or not.

They only care if a character is sexualized in a "normal" environment.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 17:21:08 2014 No.2147573

>>2146289
Eh, I think the whole "feminists vs. video games" thing is going to die down within a couple years. Remember when people were up in arms about violence in games like Doom and Mortal Kombat? And about ten years later GTAIII was like the best-selling game, and stuff only got trashier and more exploitative from there. (Not saying that's a bad thing.)

I think a lot of people feel enlightened or insightful when they point out things that go against what they believe to be good and decent, and the anonymous public forum that is the internet enables the loudest, most attention-seeking people to shout every perceived injustice from a mountaintop.

But I think some time will pass, and the general public is going to start to understand that these "feminist game journalists" are to women what Jesse Jackson was to black people, and we will all move on and enjoy our games again in peace.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 17:32:51 2014 No.2147586

>>2147573
that is if only /v/ would leave them the fuck alone
sarkeesian was dying down and no one was viewing or discussing her youtube videos until the zoey shit happened and she got invited to colbert report and suddenly blam, she got thousands of subscribers overnight

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 17:33:52 2014 No.2147591 >>2147509 i dont believe you most feminists are sex negative

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 17:53:25 2014 No.2147614 >>2147509 >And SJWs are actually into sexual freedom, believe it or not. Except when it comes to cis, white males. Apparently everything they do is rape.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 17:56:10 2014 No.2147616
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>>2147573
This is what I think too, it's not a new phenomenon. Before it was moral outrage from the social right, now it's moral outrage from the social left. It'll pass, however it's also important that people don't let it shape the industry - we didn't leave them back then.

Either way they can't take away or pólice our retro games, short of discovering time travel.

>>2147591
Also this. From what I've read (and I do try to understand their points of view), they seem to be choosy as to what constitutes freedom. Sarkeesian, for instance, thinks prostitution is bad even if the prostitute herself wants to do it, since that's just a sign of internalized mysoginy. BUT at the same time it's wrong to shun on promiscuity. Hell I've read some authors (not Sarkeesian though, of course) say gay male sex is the ultimate patriarchy and should be banned, etc.

There ARE sex positive feminists, but by and far the ones that "criticize" video games tend to only support sexual freedom if it furthers their world view, in which masculinity and heteronormativity is "toxic".

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 17:56:23 2014 No.2147617

>>2147614

All fascist movements need a boogeyman to scapegoat for all of the world's problems in order to justify the loss of civil liberties and freedoms that the movement supports.

For Nazis it was jews, retards, and gays.

For SJWs it's hetero sexual white males.

Seems a little counter-intuitive if you ask me...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:04:27 2014 No.2147631 >>2147616 >NeoGAF Please don't tell me you seriously like this guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:05:19 2014 No.2147634 >>2147631 I don't. Well, I don't really know, it's the only time I've seen a comic with that logo, so I don't know who he is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:12:43 2014 No.2147653 >>2147617 >All fascist movements need a boogeyman to scapegoat for all of the world's problems And the boogeyman for today's fascists is feminism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:16:18 2014 No.2147660 >>2147653 And the boogeyman for feminism is straight white males, strange how that works huh?

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:20:17 2014 No.2147663

>>2147653

The only fascists I can think of are White Supremacists and Feminists.

The KKK and the Neo Nazis don't seem to get much done in their trailer parks when the neighborhood isn't blowing up thanks to improper meth lab setups. And they're more concerned with Gays, Blacks, and Jews than Feminists... so... yeah. Who are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:23:38 2014 No.2147671 >>2147663 A fascist is anyone you don't agree with. It's like "autistic," "literally," and "strawman." It's just a word you use for colorful emphasis.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:26:09 2014 No.2147681

>>2147671

Oh. I keep forgetting that some people take their political 'talking points' from Comedy Central and DailyKOS. I made the mistake of using the form of Fascism that's related to the political ideology and style of government operation.

Whoops! Silly me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:31:54 2014 No.2147686 >>2147462 >Am I the only fag who prefers Ghouls n Ghosts for the Genesis? I'm a fag who prefers Ghouls 'n Ghosts for arcade. Genesis port is good tho, but I prefer the Supergrafx version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 18:41:21 2014 No.2147703 >>2134892 I'd like to think that it wasn't Street Fighter / Mario World levels of popular, but it wasn't niche either. RPG were somewhere in between. More popular then now I'd warrent, at least.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 19:37:02 2014 No.2147801

>>2147614
Way the fuck off topic, but
I don't follow any feminist or LGBT circles, but do a lot of feminists defend trans? I always kind of assumed that feminists would see transgirls as males playing twisted parodies of females, interloping on their sacred private spaces, and that they would see transdudes as lost, broken women who were worn down until they rejected their femininity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 19:40:31 2014 No.2147809 >>2147801 Social Justice nutters defend trans. Actual Third-wave Feminists do not. They consider it a patriarchy hijacking of the female form.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 19:44:45 2014 No.2147817

>>2147801
Some of them do think exactly as you do, but they're labelled "trans-exclusionary radical feminism" (TERFs) by more mainstream feminism. A key concept for modern/third wave feminism and social justice is "identity". My outlook may be a bit bleak because I hate this idea, but basically you are what you label yourself as. So transexuals who haven't taken any steps to become of the opposite sex, but still identify as women, are thought of as women by modern feminism. Everything works like that for them. So yeah most of them defend trans women (some however shun trans MEN as traitors and servants of the patriarchy etc).

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 19:56:21 2014 No.2147834

>>2147817
I didn't say I held that opinion, just that I assumed feminists would. I can't fully understand what leads a person down that path, but I'm not knocking it. If anything, that question came from my own bleak world-view that people naturally want to be part of an "us" to the exclusion of a "them." I genuinely thank you for answering so informatively and non-confrontationally, though.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 20:49:21 2014 No.2147937

>>2147017
>Gaiden/spin offs have to be evaluated on its own merits. Lamenting that Valis Cross is porn while evaluating its pros and cons as a nikuge is very much possible, as shown on >>2138519.

So if I was writing an overview of the Star Wars film franchise, you'd insist I devote as much space to the tie-in children's movies as any of the others, evaluating their pros and cons as kids' entertainment? Couldn't I just decide, "these substance-free side stories are third-rate work aimed at a very different audience, so I'll just gloss over them with a few lines about why they suck"?

Or...maybe it's just rape fetish porn that's owed a sober, evenhanded analysis. So if Lucas had sold the rights to a porn studio instead of Disney, my article would have to give equal time to every last "sequel," all the way up to Episode XXX: Hutt Sluts in Wookkake Wonderland?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 22:43:23 2014 No.2148075 >>2136852 (What? I don't sound like Bendis?)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 22:49:06 2014 No.2148082 Don't need to...Can't fix what isn't broken. It's perfect the way it is.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 22:52:05 2014 No.2148084

>>2147937
>So if I was writing an overview of the Star Wars film franchise, you'd insist I devote as much space to the tie-in children's movies as any of the others, evaluating their pros and cons as kids' entertainment?
Thing is Valis X is a reboot and a canon game. Its production history is VERY important to an overview because it outlines the fate of the franchise.

>Couldn't I just decide, "these substance-free side stories are third-rate work aimed at a very different audience, so I'll just gloss over them with a few lines about why they suck"?
You could do that, but if you had a modicum of professionalism you would a) still talk about its plot (while explaining why it sucks) and b) not resort to eight year old lingo such as "more like valis gross eeeeeew"

>Or...maybe it's just rape fetish porn that's owed a sober, evenhanded analysis.
It's not my fault the Valis franchise was turned into a series of nukige. And I certainly didn't decide to write a supposedly informative article about it. But if you're going to discuss Valis, then you better be able to handle nukige and discuss it well, because the franchise ends up in a five-game series of fetish porn reboot. And the gamefaq reviews show that you CAN talk about it in depth while finding them disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 22:59:07 2014 No.2148094 >>2147937 The article is just tellling me that Valis Cross sucks, but it doesn't really say why it sucks because it doesn't really talk about the game. That's the problem.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 23:14:22 2014 No.2148115

>>2139571
>I don't like the guy, but I definitely respect that about him, that and he's brought a lot of good/interesting "matter of fact" stuff to the table.

>>2139583
>Derboo, for all the crap y'all give him, is responsible for most of what I know about old Korean games, and his articles are very detailed and great

>I don't like/agree with that guy for his personal opinions/preferences but I still respect him for hat he brings the community.

So much niceness on /vr/ and people here had the guts to fear we'd become just like /v/? Conspiracy!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 23:36:42 2014 No.2148147 >>2148115 This is /vr/ after all. Most of us are on our late twenties, we don't have time to get all grump over >opinions

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 23:37:07 2014 No.2148149 >>2148115 notice how those two are hg101 forum regulars whove gotten used to sucking kurt kalala kock

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 28 23:47:47 2014 No.2148159 Can we all agree that Valis X is shit because the art itself looks like a low budget hentai? That's a proper criticism to make.

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 23:48:27 2014 No.2148161

>>2148147
anyone in their late twenties who let alone knows about computer anime porn is a lost cause to begin with, u nerds should be ashamed

also i love how u all seem to have low opinions on trashy nukige vns but still defend pc 98 games, like theyr any different to begin with

pretty much 98% of the stuff in there IS a trashy nukige

Anonymous Sun Dec 28 23:57:04 2014 No.2148183

>>2148159
>Valis X
I wouldn't have minded the porniness if at least the gameplay were anywhere as good as any of the other games in the series. I actually played Tifatan for fun, and not as a quick wank fodder. You can get away with so many things if your game isn't complete and utter shit.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Mon Dec 29 00:06:10 2014 No.2148198 >>2148149 Notice that there's something called a "shift key". It makes letters big.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 00:10:29 2014 No.2148214 >>2148198 Gee Jojo, I wonder how can you type with "Kalala's" cock in your hands.

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Mon Dec 29 00:15:20 2014 No.2148219 >>2148214 Holy shit, you found the shift key!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 00:16:04 2014 No.2148221 New thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 00:17:19 2014 No.2148226 >>2148214 No, you dumb fuck, I'm making fun of >>2148149

>>	Joseph Joestar !!Gw0DoE7xkFM Mon Dec 29 00:20:12 2014 No.2148232 >>2148226 lol, sorry for the friendly fire, it's late.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 00:21:37 2014 No.2148241 >>2148232 's all cool, you're still my favourite Joestar.

Anonymous Mon Dec 29 02:07:41 2014 No.2148393

>>2148084
>>2148094
Man, if you don't think "and then the franchise shat out less of a game than it is a slideshow of horrific sexual abuse imagery" is enough detail to write it off with, I don't know what to tell you.

>if you had a modicum of professionalism you would a) still talk about its plot (while explaining why it sucks) and b) not resort to eight year old lingo such as "more like valis gross eeeeeew"
>the gamefaq reviews show that you CAN talk about it in depth while finding them disgusting.

I can picture plenty of gaming mags using the "more like Valis Gross" line. I can't imagine any running an "in depth" review of a porno where vaginas erupt in bloody showers of live centipedes and get raped so much they turn into penises. A more "professional" outlet would give Valis X shorter shrift than HG101 did, if they acknowledged it at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 03:57:46 2014 No.2148526 >>2146349 Wasn't the Valis article the same one where some guy hid his porn?

Anonymous Mon Dec 29 04:40:46 2014 No.2148562
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>>2148393
If they didn't want to cover the game why not just briefly mention it while in the section for the Valis game released before the porn version telling the audience that after it is porn they don't feel is appropriate to go over and just leave it at that? It seems pointless to have a whole page section dedicated to it saying the game sucks because it's porn without mentioning anything else about it when they can just briefly say they don't wanna discuss it in like one or two sentences that still gives you an idea of what cums out next.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 18:01:01 2014 No.2149518 >>2148147 >Most of us are on our late twenties ...and still think acting whiny and persecuted is more healthy than accepting that sometimes people say negative things!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 29 23:56:08 2014 No.2150157 >>2142983 >stop being such an autist Fresh from /v/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 30 13:28:59 2014 No.2151027 hey guys, occasional contributor here (3 published, about 6-7 in queue). taking protips for better writing, might post my articles and tripfag for a while if anyone's interested

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 30 13:45:33 2014 No.2151048 >>2151027 Thread has been on autosage 14 posts ago. You might as well start a new one and post the link here before it gets archived.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 30 13:59:48 2014 No.2151075 >>2151048 lel completely forgot 4chan has hard bumplimits

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 30 14:06:49 2014 No.2151090 >>2151075 What's your username on the forums?

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