DOS/Windows 9x or NT/Mac OS Classic Gaming General

[Anonymous No.2124671]

Post machine specs and games. Try to stick with /vr/ since some Windows 98 games are definitely not retro.

[Anonymous No.2124685]

>>2124671
This isn't really a gaming PC but I would kill to have something like it. It looks hilarious but the guys who made it claim that a modern PC would be too hot for this kind of build. I wonder if my late 1999 Slot A Athlon build would be okay under a lump of foam.

[Anonymous No.2124910]

AMD K6 III+ 400 MHZ
Tyan S1598 2MB cache
256mb PC133 SDRAM
Voodoo 3 2000
Awe64 Gold
13GB hard drive
32x cd drive
Windows 98SE

Currently playing Elder scrolls arena and Blade runner.

[Anonymous No.2125456]

>>2124685
How much would you pay for it?

[Anonymous No.2125460]

>>2124685
>Socket A
those things idled at 45-50'C
newer CPUs are not only more energy efficient, but also have dedicated models for even lower temperatures (Pentium -T series for example)

a sleeper build in an old mATX case would look less of an eye-sore anyway

[Anonymous No.2125716]

>>2124671
I really want to build a /vr/ PC. Is Windows 98 or 2000 better?

[Anonymous No.2125735]

>>2125456
Nothing, it looks really cool but it's probably not worth much since it's just a Pentium MMX machine.

>>2124910
Nice build, always great to see someone else with an AMD machine

>>2125716
Definitely 98. Windows 2000 will have problems with basically all DOS games and certain Windows games as well.

[Anonymous No.2126592]

get monolith's blood ah yeah
plays so much better on win 98 than on dosbox (framerate, responsiveness etc)
mouse aim is much better too

[Anonymous No.2128078]

>>2125716
also note that a handful of games will work only on win95.


and i avoid win98se. it's supposedly more stable but much slower and full of bloatware.

[Anonymous No.2128125]

Pentium Pro 200, 256 L2 version (OC to 233 via Jumpers).
64 meg EDO
Matrox Millennium 4MB (memory expansion)
Orchid Righteous 3D
Ensoniq Sounscape Vivo
3.2 gig IBM HDD
10 gig IBM Deskstar HDD
3com ethernet

It has Dos 6.22 and Windows 95 but I mostly use it for Dos games and Glide based 3D games. Quake with Fastvid is pretty was pretty cool, I remember previously trying to run it on a 486-DX 33Mhz which was unplayable.

This was the first PC my family actually owned (minus some expansion cards and memory) so I guess that's why I held on to it. Up till then my dad brought home work PCs on occasion.

[Anonymous No.2128161]

>>2128125
nice. you kept it working that long? my first 486 notebook pretty much got bricked by a virus.

later got a second hand pentium II MMX, 226Mhz . but the board and power supply seems to be badly fitted and fried itself.

i still have another compro PII 300Mhz, but never did anything with it. it's suprisingly still working despite having corroded parts everywhere. it has only PCI slots, so it's fairly useless for gaming anyway.

[Anonymous No.2128219]

Left:
Toshiba Satellite 2065cds
Athlon k6 @ 366 MHz
192 MB of RAM (maxed!)
4GB HDD
Win98 FE
Battery still holds a charge
Horrifically ghosty 800x600 lcd that is refresh locked to 60Hz so many games run at the wrong speed
Nasty soundblaster clone whose DOS drivers lock up the machine the instant it enters protected mode
Still my precious

Right:
Gateway 2000 P4D-100
486DX4/100
40 MB RAM
3GB + 1GB hdd's
3dfx Voodoo2 graphics
AWE64
The ultimate DOS beast
Runs doom like a mother fucking champ

[Anonymous No.2128224]

>>2128219
Pic related

[Anonymous No.2128235]

>>2128224
And tyrian

[Anonymous No.2128417]

>>2128219
wish 90's prebuilt computers aesthetics made a comeback

[Anonymous No.2128445]

>>2128161

Yeah, it had a Intel board since so few made socket 8s back then so it held up nicely and the IBM drives are rock solid. While I like the Ensoniq card, one day I hope to find a ISA card with a more robust hardware like the Soundscape Elite but it will probably cost an arm and a leg.

After hearing some Dark Forces samples it blows my mind how much better it sounds.

[Anonymous No.2128452]

>>2124671

Question:

What is the limit to what can be done in a DOS game? It has to be all software, and no hardware acceleration right?

[Anonymous No.2128453]

>2014
>There is no Win9x box
>People have to make special hardware builds to play Win9x games properly.

[Anonymous No.2128456]

>>2128452
>It has to be all software, and no hardware acceleration right?
there are Glide games for DOS

[Anonymous No.2128459]

>>2125716
>2000
if something runs on that it will very likely run on modern systems as well, often without any extra tweaks

[Anonymous No.2128467]

>>2128456

So what was the big deal about jumping to Win95 and THE POWER OF WINDOWS?


Why I asked: Since DOSbox works on anything, couldn't you create a program to run on DOS for easy cross-platform porting?

[Anonymous No.2128470]

>>2128453
this tbh. I've got a stack of win95 games I wanna play but I need to see if we still have one of our old win95 machines somewhere in the basement. pretty sure we got rid of them since we moved.

[Anonymous No.2128482]

>>2128453

Wine will run a lot of old games modern windows can run correctly.

>>2128467
>the big deal about jumping to Win95

For endusers nothing really. You got worse performance and it wasn't till 98 till Windows gaming was decent enough and DirectX wasn't 100% dogshit. But 9x kernel was as stable as house of cards.

[Anonymous No.2128485]

>>2125716
Win98 was the best 9x OS, but it sucks. It is unusably bad. It does run on dos though, so you have real dos for legacy applications. It is probably the best option.

Win2k is nt codebase, which is dos-less. It is more stable, but dos is emulated so things may not work right. Lots of games fall into the don't work right category.

Win95 and winme are useless. Avoid them.

[Anonymous No.2128492]

>>2128467
>THE POWER OF WINDOWS?
not as much games as applications, especially business stuff
also plug and play, even if it could cause a lot of bluescreens

[Anonymous No.2128532]

>>2128219
>Nasty soundblaster clone whose DOS drivers lock up the machine the instant it enters protected mode

shit. how does that even work? i remembered after creative bought out adlib, they were still making cheapass 8-bit soundblaster boards. why would anyone want a soundblaster clone?

[Anonymous No.2128606]

>>2128532
Because a real ISA sound blaster card doesn't fit in a laptop. This machine uses a couple chips on the motherboard (I.e. integrated sound). AFAIK Creative didn't sell their DSPs standalone, so laptop manufacturers had to use clones. This particular one was made by a random 3rd party and required a compatibility layer to "emulate" the Sound Blaster registers. This is super fragile and hangs the machine whenever you try to switch from real mode to protected mode, for reasons I have not examined.

This machine was made around '99, so clearly the hw manufacturer didn't need to give a flying fuck about providing 100% DOS compatibility.

>>2128417
So do I man. So do I.
I have a broken original 5150 PC somewhere that I am planning "someday" to reuse as a case for a new rig.

[Anonymous No.2128642]

I just fixed my 98box post some games

[Anonymous No.2128646]

>>2128642
atomic bomberman
starcraft: brood war

[Anonymous No.2128719]

I pretty much only play text adventures. Playing on a IBM 755CE. The keyboard is godlike. Currently playing shadow of mordor.

[Anonymous No.2128725]

I have a collection of IBM compatible computer hardware that needs to go ASAP. Everything from 486 to Pentium III and 4. Mostly Pentium and Pentium II boxes from the mid late-90s. Tons of other assorted hardware like 10/100 NICs, ancient 2/4/8 MB video cards, fax modems, SCSI interfaces, and maybe a few pieces of more unique stuff mixed in.

Can anyone here use any of this? Know someone who can? Not really looking to make money (although I'm also not looking to LOSE money on transporting heavy equipment a long distance), just hoping to save as much of this history from being shredded for scrap metal as possible (which is what's going to happen to 90% of whatever I can't get save first).

The stash is located in northern Virginia, USA, but even if you aren't local, let me know any ideas you have about someone who might be able to take this stuff and use it for more than just salvage!

[Anonymous No.2128765]

>>2128417
The aesthetics, but not the cramped cases, please. Made my life Packard Hell.

[Anonymous No.2128798]

>tfw no Voodoo 3 to slap onto my retro rig

[Anonymous No.2128804]

>>2128725

Where in Nova? I'm in Charles Town, WV

[Anonymous No.2128817]

>>2128798
are voodoo cards hard to come by these days? I still remember the day I got mine, counterstrike 1.3 was never the same after that

[Anonymous No.2128818]

>>2128804
Eastern Fairfax County. Quite a ways from anywhere in WV unfortunately. Not really close enough to hand anything over unless you're planning to make a trip down here some time in the next month or so.

[Anonymous No.2128848]

>>2128798
Guy trying to get rid of a ton of computer stuff here, I just confirmed that I have voodoo3 cards in my drawer full of unsorted junk. Not really in a rush to dispose of that stuff since it isn't taking up that much space, unlike all the towers and monitors, but...

Now I'm kind of thinking about organizing and labeling this stuff so that I actually know what I have!

[Anonymous No.2128852]

>>2128848
Whoops, forgot picture.

[Anonymous No.2128879]

>>2128852
looks like a neat stash
are you able to test it all if it actually works?

[Anonymous No.2128926]

>>2128879
I might be able to test at least some of it...

Anyway I'm going through it now and I see I actually have two of those voodoo3 cards (identical) and an enormous 100 MHz voodoo 2. I think some of this stuff might actually be worth money.

[Anonymous No.2129617]

Here's the laptop I had in the OP

[Anonymous No.2129623]

>>2129617
Sorry about sideways picture, it's a Compaq Armada M700 with a 366 MHz Pentium II, ATI Rage Mobility P, ESS Maestro 2E onboard sound, and no floppy drive. I have Windows 2000 on it now. The onboard sound is supposed to have SB emulation, if I can ever find out how to get that working I will install 98 on it.

[Anonymous No.2129642]

>>2129617
Playing Quake II

[Anonymous No.2129646]

>>2129617
>>2129623
>>2129642
Any games you guys think I should try on this laptop before I install 98? Might want to try Office 2003 on it too, lol

[Anonymous No.2129715]

>>2129642
post benchmark

[Anonymous No.2129717]

>>2129642
My whole stash of games that run on Win98. Any ones that have known problems with either 98 or 2000?

[Anonymous No.2129721]

>>2129715
I'll try 3Dmark99 after 98 gets installed.

[Anonymous No.2129737]

>>2128417
Yessss. Everything today just looks so fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.2129757]

>>2129717
Wow that looks like shit. Anyways, I'm installing Win98 on this thing right now.

[Anonymous No.2129768]

>>2129717
>Dr. Brain: Action Reaction
HOLY SHIT THAT GAME IS RARE AS FUCK
It's this 3D puzzle game from 1999, it runs on the Unreal engine. I played that game as a kid and I could never find it on any filesharing site.

[Anonymous No.2129771]

>>2129757
>Dr. Brain: Action Reaction
HOLY SHIT THAT GAME IS RARE AS FUCK
It's this 3D puzzle game from 1999, it runs on the Unreal engine. I played that game as a kid and I could never find it on any filesharing site.

[Anonymous No.2129793]

>>2129771
meant for >>2129717

>>2128417
>>2129737
I agree. My current PC's case has a similar shape but black is such a boring color.

[Anonymous No.2129851]

>>2129757
Windows 98 is missing files from the disk. I'll try Win95 C just for fun, if that doesn't work, I'm probably headed back to 2000 since NT 4 hardly supports any games.

[Anonymous No.2130059]

>>2129623
Fuck mate

I am toshiba laptop guy from earlier in the thread. I have that exact sound card. It is sb "compatible", yes but with that shitty compatibility layer I mentioned. Works great in win but in dos the compatibility is awful, it doesn't even handle doom's sfx just the adlib music

Nice laptop tho, beastly specs. Get thee some Worms Armageddon, stat.

[Anonymous No.2130093]

Are these specs /vr/ enough?

[Anonymous No.2130248]

>>2128642
try getting mechwarrior 3 to work on it with max resolution and settings.

homm1 CD version, and tell me if the CD music doesn't suck.

gorky 17 was a pretty cool edgey european turn-based strategy if you're into that sort of games.

[Anonymous No.2130251]

>>2130093
>that OS
what is that? emulated windows?

otherwise that should all be perfect for most retro-era games except i guess the intergrated graphics chip might have some compatibility issues.

[Anonymous No.2130256]

>>2129717
>>2129851
most of those shooters should run even on toasters. the devs made an effort to make them compatible with many different specs. not sure about CoD though.

don't think half-life works on win 95 or 98. system shock might need some tweaking to work on win2K.

and you need to get a better camera and photograph with better lighting. the pic's all blurry as fuck

[Anonymous No.2130289]

>>2130256
>don't think half-life works on win 95 or 98
Yes it does. Why wouldn't it? it came out in 1998.

Anyway, my specs:
>Win 95C
>Pentium II 300Mhz (the older klamath model from 1997)
>ATI rage VT2 2MB as the 2D card
>3dfx Voodoo 4MB as the 3D card
>Soundblaster AWE64 (the cheaper model with 512KB RAM)
>80GB IDE HDD in 32GB mode
>128MB PC133 RAM

Dat silky smooth cinematic 30FPS Quake 1/2

[Anonymous No.2130305]

>>2128725
Damn. I'd love a 486 to run older stuff but I live in Texas. I need to find some scrap place with stuff and not have to pay $100 for an old computer.

[Anonymous No.2130310]

>>2130251
It's basically a stripped down Windows designed for use for ancient machines. Kinda like WEPOS2K9, except that OS is basically a lighter XP designed to work for "point of service" machines, and will be supported until 2019.

[Anonymous No.2130752]

perfect machine

[Anonymous No.2130841]

Post your desktop

[Anonymous No.2130845]

>>2130752
>TURBO

[Anonymous No.2130881]

>tfw my oldest PC right now has pentium 4 and no Win98 drivers for inside hardware

at least I can pretend to be retro with Windows XP, right guys? ...right?

[Anonymous No.2130895]

>have fuckload of computers and parts
>build a retro PC
>install Windows 98 on it along with a fuckload of games
>later realize I fucked up and installed it on a 5400 RPM HDD when I had 7200 RPM ones lying around

Is there a way I can clone the image of the hard drive onto another? Any good utilities?

[Anonymous No.2130906]

>>2128485
Are you serious?

[Anonymous No.2130909]

>>2130895
norton ghost

[Anonymous No.2130961]

Got a Geforce4Ti4600 as a companion for Voodoo 2 SLI in my Win98SE rig.
Problem is the damn geforce won't let me set custom refresh rates. Everytime I try to add a custom resolution it just tells me "The custom resolution cannot be added".
This happens no matter what resolution/refresh rate I try to add.
I know the one I'm trying to add works (640x480@120hz) since the Voodoo 2 cards handle it just fine.
Any way to force a custom refresh rate on the Geforce without fucking up the Voodoo cards? I know there's plenty of stand-alone utilities for this but most of them are XP-only and the ones that aren't don't work with GF4.

[Anonymous No.2130984]

>>2130881
generic drivers with win98 maybe? if you can fit a retro-era voodoo card into it, it could still work. not sure about audio.

biggest problems would be having too much RAM to win98(more 1GB RAM locks it up i think), and being unable to detect larger HDDs.

winxp with P4 is really better for emulation i guess. most emulators don't use more than 1 core AFAIK.

or you could install loonix with WINE.

[Anonymous No.2131034]

>>2130961
maybe try adding a few extra Hertz (i.e. 122Hz), had a problem with my CRT incorrectly switching when it was an 'exact' refresh rate

[Anonymous No.2131185]

>>2130256
Well the laptop I've been posting basically IS a toaster.

Specs: >>2129623

Obviously CoD won't work. Who knows, maybe it could run if I forced it to 320x240 somehow. Quake III runs at that res. Unreal/Unreal Tournament/Half-Life also run with decent FPS at 320x240. The absolutely stellar accomplishment would be to get the Maestro 2E's onboard Sound Blaster emulation to work. I know the feature exists but I could never get it to work even with DOS drivers. There was a thread on vogons but they couldn't get it working either.

[Anonymous No.2131204]

>>2130289
You should get more fps with that cpu. Are you running these games with software renderer?

[Anonymous No.2131297]

Gotta get these games reinstalled

[Anonymous No.2131306]

>>2131297

[Anonymous No.2131367]

>>2131306
Apparently, Rayman 2 works on Windows 8.1, but not 98.

[Anonymous No.2131374]

>>2131367
did you install DirectX?

[Anonymous No.2131381]

>>2131374
I should have DX6 installed. If Thps2 doesn't work I need to install Dx9.

[Anonymous No.2131408]

>>2131381
Thps2 still crashes but Rayman works now. Thps2 worked fine with 2000/XP on this laptop.

[Anonymous No.2131521]

>>2131185
I'm one step closer to solving the Sound blaster puzzle! The sound blaster music works but no digital sound. I must find out if this chipset can do actual sound or not.

[Anonymous No.2131530]

>>2131521
I also found out that this chipset has Aureal Vortex emulation

>but no soundblaster

[Anonymous No.2131586]

>>2131530
Any games you guys want me to try on this laptop? I'm thinking about going back to Windows 2000. I could try NT 4 as well but most games won't work on it.

[Anonymous No.2131778]

>>2130881
Please post your motherboard and graphics card info/specs and I'll see if I can find anything that might help. I had more than one P4-era computer than I installed 98 on. The later (LGA 775) sockets usually came with newer chipsets, but a Williamette or Northwood processor might have a chipset with 98 drivers. Even if you get stuck with XP/2000, you can run a lot of /vr/ games. Duke3D even worked with sound/music on Windows XP for me.

[Anonymous No.2131786]

>>2128459
Yeah, 2000/XP are very similar, so using 2000 grants you zero advantages over XP with regards to application compatibility. However, 2000 is more "retro" and it may run better than XP without tweaks on older hardware like my Pentium II laptop. There are some XP/2000 games that won't run on Vista/7/8 but they are fairly rare. Most 32-bit /vr/ Windows games will still work on 95, 98, ME, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, and 8. Even 16-bit Windows 3.x games still run on 32-bit Windows 8.1. The main reason for using 95/98 as a retro gaming machine is for playing DOS games alongside Windows games. 98 is generally the best for this purpose. If you really want a compability challenge try Windows NT 4. I even got some Unreal Engine games to run on NT 3.51 (but in a VM).

[Anonymous No.2131791]

>>2130841
This... like... oh... the feels... I have no words.

[Anonymous No.2131802]

>>2131791
Sweet, I can't think what to do with my laptop next. Might try 95/NT 4 just for fun.

[Stu Pickles !9jWnfZEe0g No.2131806]

>>2124671
AMD sempron 3400+
PNY Geforce 650 OC
4gb ddr2 ram
32bit Windows XP Service Pack 3

perfect retro game machine

taking pics aren't working right. Imagine rtc2

[Anonymous No.2131808]

>>2131806
That's not horribly retro. You could run Oblivion or MW3 on it. Sounds like a nice machine though.

[Anonymous No.2131812]

>>2131806
>PNY Geforce 650 OC
Wat

[Anonymous No.2131897]

>>2131786
>UT on Win 3.x
Post video or I call BS

[Anonymous No.2131917]

>>2131897
That's Windows NT 3.51, not Windows 3.1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPy1XKq0Dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRS1UU8QPc8
Here's your proof.

[Anonymous No.2131919]

>>2131897
The video of that gets posted constantly, but you thought it was a hoax?

[Anonymous No.2131930]

>MS-DOS based games run better and more reliably.

[Anonymous No.2131954]

>>2131791
post MW3 screenshots?

[Anonymous No.2131958]

>>2131930
lol. lies. most of them will have trouble running or not run at all if you didn't install win95 after installing dos.

[Anonymous No.2131962]

>>2131954

[Anonymous No.2131976]

>>2124685
>the guys who made it claim that a modern PC would be too hot for this kind of build.

That literally makes no sense. Basic components these days are *way* more energy efficient than hardware back then and therefore would shit out a lot more heat. Don't overclock and don't put in a massive heat generating dedicated GPU and you'd be fine. Lots and lots of fanless builds out there if you're interested in that stuff for HTPCs and shit.

That thing probably has a fan on it, anyways. Old HDDs can overheat pretty easily on their own, unlike SSDs.

[Anonymous No.2131995]

>>2131962
>modern warfare

fuck off, /v/.

[Anonymous No.2132006]

>>2131995
can't take a joke?

[Anonymous No.2132010]

>>2132006

[Anonymous No.2132020]

>>2128492
The power of Windows was never fully realized with 9x. Windows NT-based versions never had decent game support until 2000 though.

[Anonymous No.2132116]

Reinstalled 2000, good night everyone

[Anonymous No.2132138]

>>2132020
> win nt in 2000

that's what win2K was. win nt with less annoyances, and 9X's customisation

[Anonymous No.2132165]

>>2131204
Nope, running GlQuake. I wouldn't expect more from the first Voodoo, before that 15 fps often was actually considered "playable".

[Anonymous No.2132206]

>1.4GHz Tualatin
>1.5GB SDRAM
>FX5200
>2x 12MB Voodoo2 SLI
>Win7-x86
clearly too new for retro (but at least it's older than that P4), it's my go-to machine for testing legacy hardware, the motherboard still has an ISA slot

[Anonymous No.2132209]

>>2132206
also got a PII rig but that's not connected

[Anonymous No.2132380]

>>2131791
>kazaa
Really? Why not install Napster too

[Anonymous No.2132415]

>>2132380
because I only used kazaa as a kid and that is my nostalgia machine

[Anonymous No.2132679]

>>2132206
That machine should run 98 fine. You could probably dual boot Win98 and Win7 on there.

[Anonymous No.2132785]

>>2132679
>You could probably dual boot Win98 and Win7 on there.
that means either fiddling with GRUB/LILO, or an intermediate install of 2k/xp to make win7's BOOTMGR to load NTLDR to load dos/win9x

[Anonymous No.2133627]

>>2132785
I tried to reply to this post with a guide, but I got a 6 hour autoban for posting a banned URL. I have no fucking idea why, but the ban expired. Moot needs to get fucking rid of the hundreds of automatic ban trigger (he won't because he thinks it's funny). I got my other 98 machine out as well.

[Anonymous No.2133986]

>>2132785
Or just pop a Plop floppy in the drive and boot from it every time.

[Anonymous No.2134512]

>>2133986
There is a permanent way to dual boot them using EasyBCD, but I'll get banned again if I link to it. It's one of the first results on Google.

[Anonymous No.2134668]

I managed to obtain this for £5 and a gameboy camera. All seems to be working perfectly but it didn't come with a power supply.
Libretto 70ct, 32mb ram, 1.4gb storage.

How did I do?
(Ignore the potato-cam, my phone isn't working right at the moment)

[Anonymous No.2134671]

>>2134668
Holy SHIT I always wanted one of those, nice find man. What are you planning to do with it? They all have TFT displays IIRC, so they should be great for playing games.

[Anonymous No.2134682]

>>2134671
Yeah the display is pretty good, much better than you'd expect for a 90's LCD. It's a little dim towards the bottom, but that's mostly ignorable.

I'm planning on giving it a fresh install of 95/DOS 6.0 and then using it for DOS RPG's, mostly. Or get some writing done if I find my modern laptop too distracting.

[Anonymous No.2134685]

>>2134682
Yeah, I don't know if they are still hard to find in the US because I have never seen one even though they were sold here. I'm looking for another old laptop that can emulate a Soundblaster and play DOS games.

[Anonymous No.2134712]

>>2134685
Funny that most of the (uk) ebay results for them seem to come from the US. That's probably because of sheer population numbers than anything, though.

Damn this battery is holding out well, It was fully charged when I picked it up and has been going strong for about half an hour now. I should probably ask how the guy stored this.

[Anonymous No.2134828]

>>2134712
There are DOS drivers for my laptop's sound chip but they don't actually work in DOS. Your Libretto should have Sound Blaster support.

[Anonymous No.2134880]

>>2134828
I checked Duke3D shortly after setting it up and soundblaster does indeed seem to work fine. I'm really really happy right now.

The wait for a power brick is going to be unbearable. Damned Christmas post blockages.

[Anonymous No.2134934]

>>2134880
Oh crap. Maybe you could try going to an electronics shop and buying one of those "universal" power adapters? Those MIGHT work for a laptop, especially an older one.

[Anonymous No.2134968]

Actually, your machine would be great for Win98. 1.5 gigabytes of ram shouldn't cause any problems with it. You could also run newer games like UT2004 alongside the DOS classics.

[Anonymous No.2135135]

>2x Pentium Pro 200
>160 MB RAM
>2x Matrox Millennium w/ 4MB VRAM each
>2x 2.1 GB SCSI Barracudas
>Dual-port Intel Ethernet controller
>NT 4.0

what interesting things can I do with this hardware that I can't just do on some Pentium-133 shitbox, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.2135137]

>>2134682

>Or get some writing done if I find my modern laptop too distracting.

eugh, I can't stand the keyboard on my 110CT, the 70's looks just as bad

[Anonymous No.2135438]

>>2135135
Well you have a dual processor. The performance in DOS games might be less than a regular Pentium 200 because the Pros weren't optimized well for 16-bit. Windows NT or Linux is the desirable OS for a Pentium Pro. You should try Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 and see if you get acceptable performance. Most /vr/ games don't use multiple processors but I believe the Quake 3 and Unreal engines support SMP. You should try to find out which games support it and tell us what you discover. Dual Pentium Pro 200s may be good enough for Quake 3/Unreal Tournament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK5QFySGpy4
Here's a video of Quake 3 running on Dual Pentium Pro 200's on Windows XP.

[Anonymous No.2135597]

>>2134968
>Win98. 1.5 gigabytes of ram
win98 dont work with anymore then 512mb of ram unless you have the unofficial service pack

[Anonymous No.2135625]

>>2135135
The left one has a Alpha RISC cpu, not a Pentium Pro I think. Maybe it has good Quake performance.

[Anonymous No.2135626]

Could anyone recommend some games to run on a Voodoo? Already have:

>Need for Speed: Hot pursuit/Rivals
>Quake 1/2
>Half-Life
>Unreal
>Tomb raider 2
>F-16 (flight sim by novalogic)
>Wing Commander Prophecy

[Anonymous No.2135698]

>>2130841
Holy fucking shit back in 1999!

[Anonymous No.2135707]

>>2135626
http://www.zeus-software.com/downloads/nglide/compatibility
List of glide games.

[Anonymous No.2135713]

>>2130752
suck it down!

[Anonymous No.2136110]

>>2128765
Was there a monitor to go with that?

[Anonymous No.2136124]

>>2135626
why didn't he etch a circuit board?

[Anonymous No.2136148]

Not sure if this is the thread for this, but I have a Windows rig and a Linux rig (Ubuntu GNOME edition). My question is, what do you guys use for an N64 emulator? All my other emulators work fine, but using Mupen64Plus with M64py frontend and the built in SDL plugin isn't working at all. For starters, setting the analogs in config is impossible because the deadzone is literally pinprick size. And besides that, the config always seems to reset to some default WADS nonsense anyway. Should I find a different input plugin, or just jump ship to another emulator?

[Anonymous No.2136159]

>>2136148
Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant to point out that Project64 works great on Windows, but there is no PJ64 for Linux, and Mupen64Plus seemed like the next best thing.

[Anonymous No.2136172]

>>2135438

noice, I'll have to try that out

NT/early P6 is definitely a god awful combination for gaming because of that 16-bit gimping, so far I've just got this box set up with productivity stuff but not much more than that

I'll see if I can find any other games with SMP/NT support

>>2135625

yeah, it's an old 166 MHz AlphaServer I just got, planning to turn it into a retro time-sharing server if I can figure out how to unlock the case and get a serial console output

[Anonymous No.2137501]

>>2136172
>I'll see if I can find any other games with SMP/NT support
Falcon 4.0 had SMP support if I remember correct.

[Anonymous No.2137827]

>>2131791
>PC version of Shadows of the Empire

How did I go so long without knowing of this?!?!

[Anonymous No.2139846]

>>2135713

I don't thinks so,that monitor doesn't look vintage enough,missing the key ,also what motherboard does it have ? gimme some more pics of the inside

pic related is what this baby has (>>2130752
a 386 with a 387 fpu on its side with full cache memory )

try beating that

[Anonymous No.2139938]

>>2139846
soyo sy-20h

[Anonymous No.2140514]

Well, does it?

[Anonymous No.2140524]

>>2139846
I hope you removed that battery

[Anonymous No.2140539]

>tfw you lost your iMac G3 in a fire

It was good enough to emulate PS1 games, but it struggled with Diablo 2. I had a huge library of custom Glider Pro maps on it.

[Anonymous No.2141537]

>>2135597
Mine worked fine with 1.5 gigs. Tried it on more than one machine as well.

[Anonymous No.2142356]

>>2140524

no cause it still holds a charge

[Anonymous No.2142367]

>>2124671
This thread makes me want to re assymble my old computer

[Anonymous No.2142439]

I don't get why you would build a retro rig.

A Pentium G3258, 4GB RAM and with a graphic card that has XP drivers.

Use KernelEx on 98SE to make the drivers and what not to work.

There the best hardware for Win 9x, you could dualboot Win 7 for modern applications and for basic features such as a fucking firewall

[Anonymous No.2142483]

>>2142439
For fun?

Building computers is fun.

[Anonymous No.2142492]

>>2142439
You can find a fully functional P3 computer in the trash, so it's cheaper.
Also, quite a few games either straight up don't work with newer hardware or have issues preventing the game from being played.

[Anonymous No.2142507]

>>2142492
It isn't hardware that makes old games work, It's because Windows abandoned the DOS backend.

Also, another issue is power. A new Pentium with onboard graphics is much more powerful and power efficient compared to a P3 MMX with a Voodoo SLI


>>2142483
And If you build with new parts the fun goes away?

[Anonymous No.2142519]

>>2142507
>It isn't hardware that makes old games work
It is if you want to play with anything other than software rendering and SB16 sound.
>A new Pentium with onboard graphics is much more powerful and power efficient compared to a P3 MMX with a Voodoo SLI
Why would I want a more powerful computer when a 450MHz P3 is too fast already?
Also, a new computer uses more power and produces more heat.

[Anonymous No.2142534]

>>2142519
Games like Quake look way better with software rendering.

[Anonymous No.2142535]

>>2128818
Cool beans, brotato. I'm currently visiting my family in Reston (Fairfax County), and have an interest in retro computers, and some of those CRTs look tempting.

I would've taken you up on that offer a few years ago, but I now live in a small apartment in NYC. I have zero room for any of that. :(

Best of luck.

[Anonymous No.2142619]

>>2142519
A modern mobo has PCI slots and you could easily plug in a Sound Blaster 512

>Also, a new computer uses more power and produces more heat.

Bullshit, a new Pentium uses less than 100 Ws (but you would want to top off with a 150W PSU) while P3 with a Voodoo SLI would go around to the 200 W range.

Not only that, you could use a Pentium G3258 PC for modern gaming and retro gaming.

[Anonymous No.2143771]

>>2142356
Its a leak waiting to happen and will cause corrosion on the motherboard. Those barrel style batteries are awful. Its easy to change it anyway

[Anonymous No.2143781]

>>2142534
Why? You can always turn off the texture filtering if you don't like it.

[Anonymous No.2144271]

>>2135713
Sing along, Anon! (Actual radio jingle from back in the day)

We're not number one for nothin'
We're settin' the pace!
At Active Components,
We've got what it takes!

[Anonymous No.2146023]

getting a Matrox card because never had one of those before and it was cheap