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Which was the superior RPG of its time?

>> No.2124027

Apples and oranges.

>> No.2124054
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>>2123989

Xenogears

>> No.2124068

FF8 has a range of moderate flaws spread over most aspects of the game.
Xenogears is a shitpile of an RPG outside of the story, which is awesome.

I guess it depends on what you're after.

>> No.2124332

Xenogears, no question

>> No.2124337

Xenogears
I still liked FF8, but I enjoyed Xenogears much more.
I really didn't like the magic system in FF8

>> No.2124348

>>2123989
Well, here's the thing, most of Xenogears' team halfway through was moved over to FF8 so they could get FF8 out sooner, and that's why Xenogears had its flaws.

So FF8 being rushed (or over designed in the wrong places, depending on your point of view) was why both games sucked.

>> No.2124350

>>2123989
FF8 of course. Its the best FF game.

>> No.2124367

>>2124348
>citation needed

>> No.2124486

>>2123989
Xenogears i would have to pick.

>> No.2124506

>>2124348
>both games sucked

Fuck you, buddy. Worst opinion, made by ugliest asshole.

>> No.2124525

>>2124350
You're probably joking, but I actually thought it was a solid game. Even if it was easy to abuse its systems, and that it seemed like the game designers never wanted you to use your magic.

>> No.2124732

>>2124348
If this is so, then I hate ff8 even more than I did back when I played it.

I loved Xenogears so much, but like most I did feel like it fell short of a greatness it could have reached.

Always hated ff8. First time I was let down by a Final Fantasy title.

>> No.2124740

>>2123989
Xenogears wins by default because FFVIII was trash.

>> No.2124751

Xenogears, a deep artsy game for kids who don't read literature. At least VIII doesn't pretend to be something more than it is, a trite JRPG.

>> No.2125019

>>2124751
You're a really fun guy.

>> No.2125035

I prefer FFVIII.

>> No.2125047

>>2123989
8 is gr8. I see people who prefer X over 8. And they're just plain spectrum.

>> No.2125079

>>2124348
this is 99% bullshit. it's just a stupid rumor and has been spread by idiots like you. The reason why Xenogears felt 'unfinished' is because Takahashi is overly ambitious to a fault and is an expert in wasting the budget and not meeting deadlines. It doesn't help that Xenogears was Takahashi's first directorial gig.

The main reason for Xenogears faults is on Takahashi, not Square or FF8 or inadequate budget or anything else.

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>>2123989
This

>> No.2125459

>>2124367
Everyone knows thats what happened

>> No.2125462

>>2125459
see
>>2125079

>> No.2125467

oh and if you want some fucking '[citation needed] that FF8 didn't really dig into Xenogears development, here you fucking go.

http://web.archive.org/web/20121104052621/http://xenoverse.xenotensei.com/history/history_of_xeno_part01.htm

For some reason, rumors and misconceptions regarding the Xeno series really tick me off.

>> No.2125469

>>2123989
FF8 has more timeless appeal. Stuff like the music, the backgrounds, and the characters.
Also the card game.

Xenogears is more of a treat for rpg fans. Plus FF8 is progressive whilst Xenogears isn't.

FF8

>> No.2125484

>>2125469
>Also the card game.

literally the only thing good about ff8

>> No.2125487

>>2125469
>FF8 has more timeless appeal

that's a funny way to say dated and it's flaws made immediately apparent in gross detail

really? timeless? What other vague non descriptions you gonna say? Charm? fun?

>> No.2125545

The best thing about FFVIII are the unintentional undertones. It's a shame, but the fan theories are far more interesting (and coherent) than the game itself.

Rinoa being Ultimecia and both being under Adel's control makes perfect sense not to mention adding a darker tone to the game, after all, despite your best efforts, the circle will repeat itself until they finally win. This could be even more interesting if the hints that Squall is dead actually led somewhere- he's a natural affinity with Diablos and the GF deals % damage like Lich, maybe they're the ones to break this theoretical circle.

Not to mention Laguna is far more interesting than the 'main' cast and deserved more screen time.

>> No.2125558

FF7

>> No.2126076

>>2123989
pffth.

fucking arena mini-game on Xenogears 2nd disk alone is better than FF8.

>> No.2126080

I personally enjoy FFVIII quite a bit more.

>> No.2126142

>>2125487
mainstream appeal

it's not a non-description, its me saying, if I give these two games to a random person they will surely pick FF8

better presentation

And I dont mean just graphics. The characters, the setting, the dialogue -- they're all innovative whilst Xenogears isnt (despite being from the same year). Xenogears is an anime game for anime people. It's a really cool anime game mind you but still.