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IT'S BOOTLEG TIME!

December has arrived, and you better know what this means. Bootleg content is going to fill the market unlike any other time of the year, so let's have a good old bootleg thread to commemorate this madness of a season

What were your experiences (if you had any) with bootleg games/consoles/etc?
Any memories of playing bootleg stuff during December/early January?
Is your country of residence bootleg-prone? What's the most prominent bootleg product?
Are you going on a hunt during this specific time of the year?

If there's a thread already, don't you just delete the thread, link me to it

>> No.2110360 [DELETED] 

Not /vr/. Leave

>> No.2110362

>>2110360

>post picture of bootleg Famicom console
>not /vr/

>> No.2110367

>>2110362
>Famicom bootleg
>controllers vibrate
Why did they even put that in? Is it just false advertising?

>> No.2110368 [DELETED] 

>>2110362
It's not a famicom clone. Nor is it retro. Leave.

>> No.2110371

>>2110367

who knows, maybe they actually included some small devices to make it vibrate. never had the chance to have one in my hands

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>>2110360
>>2110368

>> No.2110383

>>2110368
Hello newfriend! Please direct yourself to the rules, or better yet, lurkmoar.

>> No.2110385
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Dendy (Russian: Де́нди) is a Taiwanese hardware clone of the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), produced for the Russian market. It was released in the early 1990s by the Steepler company. Since no officially licensed version of the NES was ever released in the former USSR, the Dendy was easily the most popular video game console of its time in that region, and enjoyed a degree of fame roughly equivalent to that experienced by the NES/Famicom in North America and Japan.

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In 1992, Dendy was selling in Russia for 39000 rubles[citation (roughly USD$70–$80), by 1994 over one million Dendy units were sold in Russia and the price was roughly $35.

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The Dendy first appeared on the market in late 1992; The console had its own animated Russian television commercial with the phrase "Dendy, Dendy! We love Dendy! Dendy -- everyone plays it!" Demand for the console was very high. By April 1993, Steepler had four regional distributors and had generated 500 million rubles in revenue.

>> No.2110393

>>2110385

Russia had Dendy
I'm pretty sure Brazil had Dynavision

Any other examples?

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The Dendy elephant logo was designed by Russian animator Ivan Maximov.

Though Steepler quickly filled a nearly empty niche, the Western gaming market still was not interested in Russia at the time. For a while, the Dendy's main competitors were similar products from China. It was not until 1994 that a competitor, the Sega console produced by Nisho Iwai and Forrus, was introduced to the market.

>> No.2110397 [DELETED] 

>>2110383
>>2110379
oh neo/v/ It was made in 2012 and also has it's own shitty games. Beaner shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZPqG2WbZa4

it's not /vr/.

>> No.2110405 [DELETED] 

The PX-3600 certainly is a Famiclone but there are so many articles ridiculing it I can't really find a serious one that tells for sure if it has a cart slot and/or how the vibration works.

The best you could probably hope for is if it tunes the "noise" channel of the Famicom's audio hardware in and vibrates when it has a signal.

That would be pretty neat but if you want retro vibration you could just try pic related, basically a very low crossover'd subwoofer that straps to your body. There are modern "gaming chairs" that do it better though and you might just have a good subwoofer already on your retro consoles. You'd be surprised how much careful sound tinkering can add to retro gaming experiences.

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The PX-3600 certainly is a Famiclone but there are so many articles ridiculing it I can't really find a serious one that tells for sure if it has a cart slot and/or how the vibration works.

The best you could probably hope for is if it tunes the "noise" channel of the Famicom's audio hardware in and vibrates when it has a signal.

That would be pretty neat but if you want retro vibration you could just try pic related, basically a very low crossover'd subwoofer that straps to your body. There are modern "gaming chairs" that do it better though and you might just have a good subwoofer already on your retro consoles. You'd be surprised how much careful sound tinkering can add to retro gaming experiences

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>>2110397
>has it's own shitty games
>That video

What?

>> No.2110413

>>2110405
>I can't really find a serious one that tells for sure if it has a cart slot and/or how the vibration works.

Three years ago I was this close to buy one for my nephews

It's like the Polyvision, it has the cart slot if you open it

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>> No.2110416

>>2110397
PolyStation is a hardware clone of NES. It's assuredly not an original modern console. If emulators, Retron and other ways to run retro games on newer hardware are /vr/, then modern NES knockoffs are surely /vr/. Calm down autismo.

>> No.2110417

>>2110408
>>2110413

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Steepler reorganized in early 1994, resulting in the separation and creation of the Lamport company.

By mid-1994, Steepler had already sold 1 million Dendy consoles and was selling between 100,000 and 125,000 more per month with a revenue of $5 million. At this time, the price of the consoles had dropped to roughly $30–$35.

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>> No.2110424 [DELETED] 

>>2110416
Those are emulating real games not shitty knock offs that were made in 2012.
Maybe shout autism a bit more. Might help your argument.

>> No.2110431

>>2110413
That's what I figured, it looks like a Polystation to me. There's nothing wrong with that for like $10. I'd probably even pay a premium for the vibration if I got to try it out and it worked good, and the controllers weren't whack - but Polystation controllers are usually 6/10 usable vs 3/10 Super Joy unusable ones. I'm an American but I think most americans don't appreciate 4rd world economy tier video game stuff which is too bad for them.

>> No.2110439

>>2110424
Seriously, Dude you need to lurk moar. Being on /vr/ not knowing about Famiclones just makes you look ignorant as hell.

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>> No.2110454 [DELETED] 

>>2110439
I know what a famiclone is. That shit isn't one being that it doesn't take cartridges, was made just 2 years ago, and has its own games along with shity clones.

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>>2110354
>What were your experiences (if you had any) with bootleg games/consoles/etc?
Yes I had as a kid we in eastern europe could not buy NES or Famicom so all we had were bootlegs.I had Terminator 2 or SuperEndingMan
>Any memories of playing bootleg stuff during December/early January?
I played all day every day,Tengen Tetris,Supermario bros,Aladin and Bomberman
>Is your country of residence bootleg-prone? What's the most prominent bootleg product?
Yes it was and its pic related.Its rare nowdays to find bootleg
>Are you going on a hunt during this specific time of the year?
No.I dont have the money even if they are 5$ i cant afford them as I said Im poor in poor country.

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In August 1994, Incombank and Steepler announced plans to start up a joint business venture called Dendy, in which Incombank would contribute capital and receive 30% of profits. At the end of 1994, two more Dendy rivals (also NES clones) appeared: the Kenga, manufactured in Taiwan by Lamport, and the Bitman, distributed by R-Style.

In November 1994, the newly created Dendy company signed an agreement with Nintendo, in which they were forbidden from promoting Sega products and given exclusive distribution rights to the Super Nintendo in Russia.

>> No.2110520

bootlegs are fun and all, but theyre like 95% NES/Famicom

Where are the SNES or Playstation bootlegs?

Hell, I don't think I've ever seen an Atari or Colecovision bootleg

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Modern Dendy consoles, which can still be found alongside Chinese products in many markets, are manufactured in China and have no relation to the Steepler company, which discontinued operations in 1996. According to another variant, Steepler signed a contract with Nintendo agreeing to sell not only consoles, but game cartridges as well. Given that licensed cartridges cost several times more than pirated ones, Steepler soon found that it was unable to sell them profitably, resulting in the company's demise.

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The technical specifications of the Dendy are most consistent with those of the PAL version of the NES, but there are some differences in design and execution.

Processor

6527P, Ricoh 2A03 compatible. 8-bit, 1.773447 MHz.
The exact chipset and implementation differed depending on the model and time of release (while maintaining software compatibility). Most often in the console were two chips manufactured by UMC — UA6527P (CPU) and UA6538 (PPU) -- which have been integrated to be compatible with the 6502 processor and the rest of the logic. Later editions consolidated the design of all previous implementations into a single, open-frame chip.

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Dendy was produced in five configurations: Dendy Classic, Dendy Classic II, Dendy Junior, Dendy Junior II and Dendy Junior IVP. The two Dendy Classic models were rebranded versions of the Micro Genius IQ-501 and IQ-502 respectively, manufactured by TXC Corporation in Taiwan.

Dendy Classic, according to advertising booklets of the manufacturer, has two video outputs, compatible with television standards PAL and SECAM. It has only one gamepad, with a second sold separately. Dendy Classic II is the same, but has different console and controller design. Dendy Junior has only one PAL-video output. Dendy Junior II was also designed to resemble the Famicom but gamepads are hard-wired to the body, as in the original Famicom. Dendy Junior IVP includes a light gun.

>> No.2111137

why the fuck does anybody even care about these fake piece of shit consoles?
Shit like these should just be taken straight to a landfill they're that bad.

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>>2111137
Some people find it interesting to read about.

>> No.2111167

>>2111137
>i have the sense of humor of a shellfish

>> No.2111204

>>2110385
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uttp6EeyTP8

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Cartridges look very similar to the original Famicom (the Japanese origin of the NES) cartridges. Nonetheless the original NES Cartridges are mechanically incompatible with the Dendy console due to a different form factor of the PCB and the outer hull. Most of the games sold for Dendy consoles have been bootlegs or copies of NES games. Among them are multicarts, sometimes with a few games replicated many times or separated by levels with ability to choose any of them, sometimes with the sprites or maps slightly altered. There are few original Russian, Taiwanese or Chinese products. Among the games is the Super Mario Bros. series, which includes the three original Mario productions from Nintendo, along with a series of unlicensed Mario games, most of which are just other Famicom games with the main character replaced with Mario sprites. Examples of an originally-programmed (but still copyright-infringing) game include the infamous Somari, which is a port of Sonic the Hedgehog with Sonic's sprite replaced by Mario's, and another one is the unlicensed 8-bit clone of the Super NES's Super Mario World game.

>> No.2111245

>>2111137
Some folks care because bootlegs were their only real way to get access to these console libraries. Nintendo and Sega didn't sell their consoles in every place, and that meant the only way to experience that was through a bootleg.

For some folks, the bootlegs were all they had.

>> No.2111247

>>2110354
I guess I'll ask in here instead of making a new thread.

How do I go about making copies of Sega-CD games? Do I literally just burn a cd and play it on a sega CD? No mods or anything?

I wanna play games like Snatcher and Popful Mail without paying 300 dollars. I haven't used a CD burner since my PS1 days.

>> No.2111248

>>2111247
Yeah, burn the CD, preferably with a .CUE since I've read its simpler that way.

That should pretty much be it.

>> No.2111323

>>2110446
>Xperia Play
lol

>> No.2111578

>>2111204
why does my russian comrade here not drink alcohol on his show? is that not a staple of russian existence? Is he just too much of a nerd? I feel like his humor lends itself to it.

>> No.2111606

>>2110354
I live where all this shit is made so I have a buttload of bootleg consoles, games, etc. Most of it is shit but some of it is just awesome.

>> No.2111652

>>2111578
It's actually something of an in-joke. In one of the early episodes, he actually does reach for a bottle of vodka out of desperation over what he is playing, but he stops himself and goes for a Pepsi instead. So really, he is just subverting the common meme of Russians being drunkards.

>> No.2112501

>>2111606

what country?

>> No.2112553

I used to live in Westlake next to Alvarado street in Los Angeles and stores would sell the N64 shaped controller alonside the PlayStation shaped one. Both had a second controller and a light gun pistol. Also they used the Sega Genesis plug for controllers. I burned the PCB of the N64 controller when my curiosity went overboard and I plugged the Genesis arcade stick, stench of plastic soon consumed the living room. One thought that still sort of bugs me to this day is what games were on the "never working" cartridges that came packed in with the bootleg consoles? Is it possible to change the roms and essentially have a dirt cheap everdrive cart?

>> No.2112617

>>2110385
In Argentina we had the "Family Game" (famiclone), though my family always bought the original consoles

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GoAT

>> No.2112723

>>2110392
That's actually a cool console design.

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Had one of these.

>> No.2112773

>>2112501
Where the shit that says MADE IN CHINA comes from

>>2112553
>change the roms and essentially have a dirt cheap everdrive
Sort of. You'll have to reflash the chip to change games and probably only have one mapper but there are trainers for most games. Those carts usually don't have any save and it won't help you play FDS. But if you're good with all that yes you can make your own multicart for a few bucks.

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>> No.2112793

>>2112617
Those things must've been quite expensive, but I assume the quality was significantly better.

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Last one I got for shits and giggles.

>> No.2112918

>>2112793
They were, indeed, but part of my family lives in the US so we would just buy those things whenever we went on trips (and I still buy my games and consoles over there every year).
I was pretty lucky.

>> No.2112927

>>2112723
It's the famicom but grey and without the hardwired controllers.

Admittedly it is pretty good but it's not that amazing.

>> No.2113518

>>2112717
Oh man, speaking of LCD bootlegs I had a tablet sized one with replaceable LCD block games. The controllers used a 3.5 mm jack (player one called master and player 2 called slave). Of course sound was mono but it was loud enough to listen to in a busy train station.

I gave it away to a friend I made on AOL.

>> No.2113545

>>2111248
You have to make sure it's BIN+CUE or ISO+CUE+AUDIO (or some other format that allows multi-track) cause if you just burn an ISO you won't get any additional audio tracks if the game uses CD Audio.

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>>2110393
Poland had Pegasus, a story very similiar to that of Dendy. After the law change that stopped bootleg from official market founder of the company, started making soft drinks, and now they are one of the biggest producers in Poland.

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>>2110354
You rang op?

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>>2110468
Game console called the terminator that's pretty bad ass did you ever play terminator on your terminator?

>> No.2113627

>>2111578
I don't think he can with his condition m8

>> No.2114583

>>2113627

Yeahhh, those were my thoughts too

>> No.2114705

I never got any of those, are they good quality? I know they go a lot cheaper than a Nes nowadays

>> No.2114709

Why only famicom get clones

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>>2110480
>a clone console so popular it got a deal with the real thing

That's fucking great.

>> No.2114932

>>2110367
Handled once a NES-in-N64 controller one. The little vibration motor was wired to the to the autofire buttons.

>>2110408
That thing had a knob to tune in which freqs it would pick up iirc. It also sucked.

>>2114705
A friend had a "Pegasus" NES clone back in the day. It was pretty much the same as the NES, with slightly stiffer buttons. Famiclone controllers can be hit or miss, though.

>>2114709
Never encountered Genesis nor SNES clone consoles, but plenty of pirate carts for them.
I guess the NES was simpler/cheaper to copy.

>> No.2115217

>>2114709
They don't. I've seen actual clones of nearly everything from pong to SFC/MD/PCE. Then you had things like the Treams that aren't actually clones because they're made with original parts as is the DS ML

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Finest console I've ever owned.

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>>2110354
>What were your experiences (if you had any) with bootleg games/consoles/etc?

My very first gaming machine - famiclone and a bunch of 99999 games in 1 carts.

>Any memories of playing bootleg stuff during December/early January?

Playing Mario bros and Tetris (1993-4 when I was 3-4 y/o) with my dad and uncle who bought the thing.

>Is your country of residence bootleg-prone?

In 90's Lithuania, yes. Finding the non-bootleg stuff was actually harder.

>What's the most prominent bootleg product?

The zhiliton.
All kinds of shapes but the name the same. Most people don't even know what an NES is.

>Are you going on a hunt during this specific time of the year?

Pretty hard to get one nowadays but will definitely keep an eye out.

>> No.2115473

>>2112730
This looks awesome

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>>2112813
>lotion included

>> No.2115521

I really really want to see AVGN do an episode solely on bootlegs. I know he has them, he showed a few cartridges in one ep.

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>>2110385
>>2111204
remember when we used to have dendy threads?
fun.

>> No.2115785

>>2113624
No,never go the chance.Console sill works but i cant find controllers for it ;[

>> No.2115802

There was someone on /vr/ once that posted a picture of his Famiclone that was shaped like a racecar.

I hate that cunt so much because I've never been able to find one like that.

>> No.2116793

>>2115752

oww

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This looks interesting.

>> No.2116920

>>2112806
Used to have one of these things. Had a lcd Pooyan clone on the system itself, and some sort of nes bootleg multicart on the "cartridge". I threw it away a while back after the games on the cart wouldn't show, probably due to region differences.

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>>2116824
>THE POLY MACHINE
>It's not just a game anymore!!

>> No.2117756

>>2116824

this is the most common famiclone in mexico, op's pic is coming to a very close second, though

>> No.2119465

>>2111247

don't forget to burn it in the slowest speed possible

>> No.2119740

>>2112798
There is nothing not empty and sad abut this picture. It's kind of staggering.

>> No.2119767

>>2119465

This guy is an idiot. Burn it at the rate the CDs are recommended for.

>> No.2121073

>>2119767

and which one is it, you genius?

>> No.2121085

>>2121073
I assume he means the CDs themselves, ie, it's written on the box of 20 blank CDs.

>> No.2121098

>>2110468
Looks like the old 80's Laser Tag gun

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this is terrible

>> No.2121218

Posting a classic.

http://games-sy.com/

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>>2121218
Seems legit