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>Since Kingdom Hearts and in all related appearances since, the official English spelling of her name has been retconned to "Aerith".

>> No.2109634

I never used the default names anyway, so it didn't bother me.

>> No.2109635

both names are fucking stupid

love ff7 but you know i'm right

>> No.2109642
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>> No.2109658

Almost every name in FFVII is a pun. These were lost in the subpar localization or were just not feasible in our language.

If you wanted to write the English word "earth" in katakana, you would probably write エアリス. Lo and behold, this is what her name was in the Japanese game.

Aerith returns to the planet after she dies. She lives on in the earth. Her limit breaks, which include "Breath of the Earth", deal with the earthen/heavenly dichotomy.

While it doesn't perfectly convey the meaning, "Aerith" more closely resembles what the name is intended to evoke.

>> No.2109663

>>2109658

>Cloud and Earth

>> No.2109664

>>2109630
>not naming her Tellah

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>>2109658
>tripcodes on /vr/

>> No.2109668

>>2109630
It's always been bullshit to me and I don't understand why everyone was so okay with it around here. Aeris was one of the first game characters I felt truly attached to, however lame that may be. I was attached to Aeris, and that's the character that's still in the game when I revisit it now, not Aerith.

That being said it's pretty much nbd because all of the post-ffvii appearances have been pretty bad anyways, except kingdom hearts 1

>> No.2109669 [DELETED] 

>>2109667
>not filtering all tripcodes

>> No.2109684
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>>2109658
>If you wanted to write the English word "earth" in katakana, you would probably write エアリス
>not エース

>> No.2109710

>>2109684
You're both wrong. And エース is ace.

If you were going to write "earth" in katakana, you'd use アース (Aasu).

>> No.2109725

>>2109635
what exactly was wrong with Aeris? it flows easily. Aerith sounds like you have a lisp.

>> No.2109726

>The protagonist of Fire Emblem is Marth, not Mars

Why is this?

>> No.2109739

>>2109726
Mars makes no sense for him because that would imply he's warlike and aggressive, the complete opposite of him.

>> No.2109741

>>2109739
And Cloud would imply that he's a white thing in the sky when he's really a guy with a big sword.

>> No.2109759

>>2109741
Are you being obtuse on purpose? I didn't say Marth is literally the god of war, just like Cloud is not literally an object in the sky.

>> No.2109809

>>2109759
I think it was a joke, anon

>> No.2109849

>>2109726
Everyone just kind of wants to forget the Fire Emblem OVA ever happened.

>> No.2109903

I name her Alice because japanese people are fucking stupid sometimes

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One thing that I've always wondered is why is Freya's Japanese name フライヤ (Fu-rai-ya) and not フレイヤ (Fu-rei-ya).

Translating it literally it makes it seem like her name is Fryer or Flyer. Her romanizaed name is Freija so it's obviously supposed to be Freya, but is there a reason the katakana doesn't match that? My Japanese knowledge is practically zilch so I've always been confused about it.

>> No.2109983

Aeolus is the god of wind in Greek mythology, and her first limit break is called "healing wind."

Just some food for thought.

Bizarro Sephiroth is really supposed to be called Rebirth Sephiroth, but the translators misinterpreted "Rebirth" as "Reverse"

>> No.2109986

>>2109903

>This sci-fi/fantasy game has weird names and this angers me

>> No.2110064

It's really a retarted thing.
Even if it was a typo or mistranslation, her name was established as Aeris.
Didn't they have a joke in a later FF6 version, about how some people insist that his name's is Cefka instead of Kefka?

>> No.2110138

I don't see what the problem is, Aerith sounds like "Eris" in the dub anyway.

>> No.2110143

>>2109920
Maybe they were going for a German vibe?

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>>2109684
>>2109658
(´・ω・｀)ｶﾞｯｶﾘ…
You both fail
>アース

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>Change Aeris to the much more awkward Aerith
>Don't change Rydia to the much less awkward Lydia

>> No.2110153

>>2110152
Whath tho awkward about thath name?
Throundhs perfectly fine tho me.

>> No.2110161

>>2110152
Lydia is not fantasy-y enough.

>> No.2110862

>>2109630
Fuck you your name was Aeris from the ages of 8-now

It's your fucking name

>> No.2110874

On the other hand everything about Final Fantasy Tactics' new translation is perfect.

>> No.2110893

>>2110874
Absolutely not. Considering how inaccurate it is, calling it a "translation" is an insult. They changed all the damn names to sound dumber than they already were, and half of them don't even match the katakana anymore.

>> No.2110908

>>2109630

Fuck them, I'm not calling her "Aerith," that just sounds like something a localization team fucked up on or the one faggot with a lisp on the payroll suggested the spelling.

Plus, I specifically play older games to get away from the politics of the marxist know-nothings that have to push their failed ideology on everyone.

>> No.2110915

Like I give a shit.

>Princess Toadstool and Robotnik master race!

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>>2110908
>I specifically play older games to get away from the politics of the marxist know-nothings that have to push their failed ideology on everyone.
...Where the hell did that come from? Marxist? What?

>> No.2111730

>>2110893
which is really strange because Vagrant Story really did turn out almost perfect

its like square aped themselves and then just went way the fuck overboard and turned Renaissance fair on it

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>>2109759

>> No.2111754

>>2109630
Make me.

>> No.2111756

Why is Tina still known as Terra?

>> No.2111757

>>2111756
>Why is Tina still known as Terra?

Because Woolsey made some nice decisions in localization.

>> No.2111973

>>2109630
>1998
>Not calling her Aerosmith

Do you even video games?

>> No.2111974

>>2111973
This was actually something I did recently again and it was hilarious to see all the characters crying about how Aerosmith was gone and how much they missed her.

Also changed cloud to fuckface, It was glorious

>> No.2111985

>>2109920
Well the Norse God Freyja can be written in a number of ways, like Freya, Freija, Frejya, Freyia, Froya, Frojya, Freia, Freja, and Freiya.

Then there's Froy or Freyr who is not the same god as Freyja, but similar names.

So who knows what they meant with her name or which one it was based on:p

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>>2111985
Ooops, all the "o"s are meant to be "oe"s but they get changed for some reason.

o

>> No.2112216

>caring this much about a character's name
But seriously, I never got the "I sound like I have a lisp" argument. It only sounds like you have a lisp if you still mentally think of her name as "Aeris." Do you sound like you have a lisp when you say the word "Earth?" Or "worth?"

>> No.2112240

My FF7 manual printed by Square themselves has her named as Aeris. All the retcons in the world will never change that.

>> No.2112265

>>2112240
>M-muh manual, motherfucker

And who would dare question the accuracy of Square's own FF7 translation?

>> No.2112271

>>2112265
People who call her Aerith.

>> No.2112306

It's kinda like the whole "Han shot first" thing in Star Wars.

Maybe Lucas wishes Greedo would have shot first, and maybe Square wishes they had called her Aerith, but there are some things you can't take back.

>> No.2112358

http://www.engadget.com/2014/12/06/final-fantasy-vii-ps4/

Typical square once again. I didn't think this deserved it's own topic, but here you go.

>> No.2112370

>>2112358
Isn't this already on PSN? I don't understand.

>> No.2112379

>>2112370
Apparently the PS4 can't play PS1 games from PSN

I didn't know that until yesterday

>> No.2112380

>>2112370
The original PSX version is. This is a PS4 specific port based on the PC port of the PSX original.

Just emulate it.

>> No.2112391

>>2112358
I still laugh at all the people who think they're going to remake the game. This is as close to an "HD remaster" as there's ever going to be.

>> No.2112469

>>2112391
They did it with Romancing SaGa and DQ games, so it's not that far out of left field to do so. Outside of a new localization effort (translation errors are fixed now) and callbacks to other games I don't see anything a full remake would actually make better though.

>> No.2112616

>>2112380
This.

The PC version is also good because of the fixes it had to the translation (localization was kept intact) and mods if you want them. Nothing was really harmed in it, not after they changed the music back.

Either way though, PS4 is probably confirmed for the worst already.

>> No.2112620

>>2112616
"Changed back" isn't really accurate. That's how the PC sounds with default midi. Bad. Its just that you can use different settings to get better music out of it.

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>>2109642

>> No.2112661

>>2112240
And all the manuals for all the games she's appeared in after that name her as Aerith.

>> No.2112681

>>2111730
The thing that bugs me the most is when they change names for no reason, and it actually severs links / references to other games. Like changing Desperado to Cold Blood in the US release of FFXIII, killing the FFVIII reference. There's no reason for that.

>> No.2112683

>>2109630

Eh, I just acknowledge that both names...are her names. Like you can choose to either call her Aeris or Aerith and it's fine.

Just like you can switch between Terra or Tina.

>> No.2112686

>>2112681
Another example is Star Ocean 3, where they changed a buttload of names for no reason, and pretty much every reference to SO2 was thrown out the window. Even spell names weren't safe. Not to mention all of the demon names being messed with for no reason, like Lucifer, Azazel, Belial, and Beelzebub being changed to Luther, Azazer, Berial, and Belzeber.

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>>2112686
>Lucifer changed to Luthor
This tickles me for some reason, even though I know it's completely unintended.

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>>2112358
Sometimes I wish I was a fly on the wall during these board meetings. It would've been fun to see the reasoning for that one.

But who cares, I haven't bought a new FF game in years and I doubt I'll start soon.