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Anonymous Sun Nov 9 21:59:13 2014 No.2057658 [Reply] [Original]

Can we talk about the amount of depth this game has? Seriously, its broken as hell. I still discover new things to this day. For example:
>you can tell a poison poe from a healing poe by its hue
>you can change the clothes and lipstick color of the Gerudo guard in front of the training area
>you can make blue tektites fly
>it is possible to skip the forest, fire, and water temples
>shield stab does the same amount of damage as the last attack you did before shield stabbing
>le old Zelda's lullaby fixes broken signs
If you know what you're doing, you can play this game almost backwards. In fact, I've been working on creating a glitch-based second quest because I'm bored with playing the normal way. What secrets/tricks have you discovered or found useful?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 9 22:35:04 2014 No.2057705 >>2057658 >it is possible to skip the forest, fire, and water temples Really? How does this work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 01:34:26 2014 No.2057923 >>2057658 >Poe hue

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 01:37:16 2014 No.2057924 >>2057658 >you can change the clothes and lipstick color of the Gerudo guard in front of the training area what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 01:52:40 2014 No.2057931 >>2057658 >Can we talk about the amount of depth this game has? Seriously, its broken as hell. broken=/=deep

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 02:11:08 2014 No.2057941

>>2057931

OK pal. There are two kinds of broken. Some games are broken in the sense that you can't get past a particular level. Action 52 comes to mind. You get to level 3, the game freaks, and that's it. That's like the opposite of deep. Sometimes you can break the game and get even more out of it, like you can with OoT

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 02:17:40 2014 No.2057947

>>2057705
Normally, one would trigger endgame when the Sheik reveal cutscene happens after you enter the Temple of Time with all Medallions.

But the game doesn't actually check whether you have all Medallions, it only checks if you have the Spirit and Shadow Medallions, so speedrunners often skipped the first three adults dungeons and focused only on completing the final two.

Anyone interested in Ocarina should check out the speedrunning community around it. They've uncovered countless quirks in Ocarina programming that allow for obscure tricks, like Shield Sliding, Bomb Hovering, or Wrong Warping (a technique that allows one to skip huge portions of the game by loading the wrong area after a cutscene.)

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 02:21:18 2014 No.2057951

>>2057947

OoT's history with the glitches is much more interesting than the speed runs themselves now.

I suggest watching runnerguy on twitch/srl occasionally, he sometimes goes into detail and shows examples of all the glitches they made use of before the most recent ones came into play.

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 02:27:57 2014 No.2057962

>>2057951
Yeah, modern Any% OoT speedruns are pretty boring now. They beat the game much too quickly, with only one huge trick and a couple of small ones to show. They're only worth watching once just to witness the game being beaten in minutes.

100% and no-big-skips runs are where it's at now. Those actually showcase the madness that is OoT speedrunning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 04:43:14 2014 No.2058067 If you hold a Deku Stick near a butterfly and walk away with the stick out, the butterfly will follow you for a bit and then turn into a fairy

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 05:02:19 2014 No.2058081 >>2057962 Anything other than a trickrun is always boring to me. So what if you can kill a boss in three second flat, it doesn't make for a good show.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 10:02:55 2014 No.2058315 >>2057924 Depending on which tunic you wear, her clothes and lipstick change. She'll be wearing green if you're in your Kokiri Tunic, red if your Goron Tunic, and blue if your Zora Tunic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 10:11:07 2014 No.2058325 All early 3D games are full of this kind of stuff, but OOT almost seems like it had a guiding philosophy to leave those bugs in and just smooth the surface.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 10:47:44 2014 No.2058370 >>2057941 No, you're an idiot. You don't know the meaning of either of those words.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 11:58:16 2014 No.2058475 You can kill Ganondorf (human form) in one round if you jump attack into him using the biggoron's sword and repeatedly shield stab him. It kills him in 4 hits. You may want to use the hover boots, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 12:09:18 2014 No.2058489 File: 39 KB, 320x240, 2080M[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2057947 Wrong Warping is the greatest thing

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 13:05:52 2014 No.2058612

you can kill any boss (except volvagia, king dodongo and barinade) in their critical point phase (when they've been stunned by the dungeon item and fall to the ground for a bit) in one "round" by doing repeated quick spin attacks, it stunlocks them and stops them from ever getting up if you pull them off quick enough

the chest on top of gerudo's fortress with a heart piece in it contains the odd mushroom from the adult trading sequence if you infiltrate as a child (by floating over the valley with the cucco)

you can get infinite gold skulltulas by using the boomerang to fetch the token you find in a grotto outside hyrule castle, and having it return to you as soon as you step on the exit warp pad

there are gerudo faces hidden behind iron knuckle helmets

ice arrows freeze bongo bongo, basically their only real use in the game

in places with infinitely respawning overworld enemies (stalchildren in young hyrule field, leevers in the desert, possibly guays in young lon lon ranch / adult lake hylia), if you hack the game for infinite night-time and kill enough, bigger and bigger versions will start to spawn, providing bigger and bigger monetary rewards, until there are stalchildren the size of hyrule field worth 60 rupees

volvagia flashes white and makes a damage noise when you hit him with an arrow while he's in the air, but i don't know if it actually damages him or not

the nipples of the giant colossus inside the spirit temple are hookshot targets

deku sticks and deku nuts are generally the most valuable replenishable items link has, as deku nuts stun basically everything and deku sticks deal master sword damage with twice the range of the kokiri sword

deku nuts can stun ganon in the final battle if you run out of magic or arrows

playing the song of storms next to a magic bean plant makes a fairy rise up out of it

there's a gossip stone behind the deku tree which i'm not sure you can actually access in normal play

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 13:23:48 2014 No.2058635 A half-broken deku becomes like a broken giants knife, and can be re-used over and over again without breaking.

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 13:31:27 2014 No.2058658

>>2058612
>the chest on top of gerudo's fortress with a heart piece in it contains the odd mushroom from the adult trading sequence if you infiltrate as a child
This is really interesting.
>you can get infinite gold skulltulas by using the boomerang to fetch the token you find in a grotto outside hyrule castle, and having it return to you as soon as you step on the exit warp pad
I did this. It's way faster than finding them all.
>volvagia flashes white and makes a damage noise when you hit him with an arrow while he's in the air, but i don't know if it actually damages him or not
I'll have to try this. I'll try to kill him using only arrows.
>there's a gossip stone behind the deku tree which i'm not sure you can actually access in normal play
You can, but I forget what it says.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:05:05 2014 No.2058707 Gossip stones blast off like rockets if you hit them with fire arrows, bombs, or din's fire.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:07:11 2014 No.2058710 "L is real 2401" in Dodongo Cave

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:08:42 2014 No.2058714 >>2058710 Enternal Star

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:10:10 2014 No.2058718 >>2058710 Eternal Star

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:39:13 2014 No.2058761
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>>2058612
>the chest on top of gerudo's fortress with a heart piece in it contains the odd mushroom from the adult trading sequence if you infiltrate as a child (by floating over the valley with the cucco)
Dafuq, was that done intentionally? Or is it some weird artifact of memory allocation, pointers, etc.? Or could it be the work of Skull Kid?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:41:02 2014 No.2058762 >>2058707 You can also change their color to red or blue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:42:00 2014 No.2058765 >>2057658 Egoraptor pls go, a link to the past sucked

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:42:25 2014 No.2058767 Two words: colored gauntlets

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:43:42 2014 No.2058770 Anybody else here have version 1.0?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:46:10 2014 No.2058775 >>2058770 I refuse to play any other version on the Nintendo 64. I'll play neutered Ocarina Of Time on the GameCube because there's no other option, but its not my preference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:49:30 2014 No.2058782 >>2058770 >>2058775 What's the difference? Does it really even matter that much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 14:52:11 2014 No.2058794 >>2058770 v1.0 masterrace reporting the fire temple turned me Muslim

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:06:54 2014 No.2058809 >>2058782 >more bugs/glitches >easier bugs/glitches >red blood during Ganon/Ganondorf fight >different fire temple music >slight dialogue changes >a few typos >different Morpha ball texture

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:18:25 2014 No.2058831 What is the strangest area you've ever found in Ocarina? Like a hidden hole or grotto, or a little room or something that isn't really important or well-known.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:21:34 2014 No.2058837 >>2058809 >red blood during Ganon/Ganondorf fight UWOT

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:27:35 2014 No.2058849 >>2058837 He coughs up blood and bleeds red instead of green like later versions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:33:33 2014 No.2058857 >>2058794 At least a billionaire dinosaur didn't force you gay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:43:36 2014 No.2058869 >>2058831 This game has been explored to hell and back already. Really the only new things to find are glitches.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:48:13 2014 No.2058872 >>2058831 There's a hole in the middle of Kakariko Village that took me years to find.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 15:58:10 2014 No.2058893 >>2057962 some links maybe? i'm interested now

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 16:33:49 2014 No.2058945 >>2057941 >Sometimes you can break the game and get even more out of it, like you can with OoT no that's bad design

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 16:46:43 2014 No.2058960 Glitches =/= Depth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 16:49:21 2014 No.2058962 >>2058945 >>2058960 Samefag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 16:52:04 2014 No.2058964 File: 16 KB, 351x99, Screen Shot 2014-11-10 at 21.51.39.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2058962 Nope, sorry that more than one person doesn't agree with you

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 16:56:14 2014 No.2058968 >>2058945 Nah, just bad QA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:07:46 2014 No.2058985 >>2058962 >What? people don't all think my game is the most amazing shit ever...INCONCEIVABLE! Zeldafags ladies and gents

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:18:09 2014 No.2059005

>>2058612
>in places with infinitely respawning overworld enemies (stalchildren in young hyrule field, leevers in the desert, possibly guays in young lon lon ranch / adult lake hylia), if you hack the game for infinite night-time and kill enough, bigger and bigger versions will start to spawn, providing bigger and bigger monetary rewards, until there are stalchildren the size of hyrule field worth 60 rupees

Lel, this sounds hilarious. Any pics/vids?

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:20:39 2014 No.2059009

>>2058831
There's a square hole cut horizontally into the bedrock at the bottom of Zora's Domain, completely inaccessable through normal gameplay. Getting under the ice as an adult and using the Iron Boots is the easiest way to access it, although there's nothing inside it. It's theorized the hole was intended to lead to the deleted Unicorn Fountain.
http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Unicorn_Fountain

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:26:27 2014 No.2059010 >>2059005 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKWLqYoP_cA They get bigger than this too.

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:32:53 2014 No.2059012

>>2057931
I tend to play games like this:

1) Complete as quickly as possible on normal
2) Complete as quickly as possible on the hardest difficulty setting
3) Achieve 100% in whatever form the game accounts for
4) Experiment with the glitches, if applicable
5) Play the metagame, if applicable

I really enjoy broken (in the sense of glitches, not balance) games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:36:06 2014 No.2059017 >>2059009 >It's theorized the hole was intended to lead to the deleted Unicorn Fountain. It was actually intended to store a Heart Piece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 17:57:58 2014 No.2059043 >>2058761 DEEPEST LORE

Anonymous Mon Nov 10 18:08:38 2014 No.2059064

>>2058612
>there's a gossip stone behind the deku tree which i'm not sure you can actually access in normal play
You can get to it by backflipping up onto the Deku Tree's roots and going round the other side. I was disappointed that it wasn't a better secret actually, that was really cleverly hidden.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 22:10:03 2014 No.2059553 Bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 22:19:00 2014 No.2059578 I might make a video about this stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 10 23:00:02 2014 No.2059668 >>2058325 OoT is extremely popular. Since so many people play it, glitches are more likely to be found

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 01:41:26 2014 No.2059940 >>2058831 Theres a fake wall in Dodongo's cavern, where you fight the first Lizafols pair. Jumping through it reveals a secret room with about 3 hearts and nothing else

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 02:13:02 2014 No.2059975

>>2057658
>you can play this game almost backwards
This is a thing that makes Super Mario World, Ocarina of Time and Super Metroid my favorite games.
Sure, there's a lot of nostalgia goggling involved, but all in all if a game is filled with fun bugs, it opens whole new worlds in subsequent playthroughs.

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 02:25:12 2014 No.2059985

>>2059975

The sequence breaking may have been intentional in super metroid, as opposed to all the glitches allowing it in OoT, though.

But then again of all the shit you do to sequence break in super metroid, its said the only trick that is an actual "glitch" is the mock ball, which allows all the sequence breaks in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 02:27:29 2014 No.2059987 >>2059985 You're forgetting the underwater super-high-jump.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 02:28:33 2014 No.2059989 >>2059987 and many others

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 02:30:41 2014 No.2059994 >>2057658 it's all very cool but half of that list are programming glitches though

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 02:44:06 2014 No.2060010

>>2059985
OoT has tons of intentional sequence breaks that don't rely on glitches though. Most of the Gerudo desert can be done glitchless extremely early (the fortress straight after becoming an adult, Spirit Temple once you get the longshot and have completed one temple).

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 04:38:43 2014 No.2060135 >>2058067 HOLY FUCK.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 04:44:57 2014 No.2060143 >>2059005 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KWZmJ-YRI

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 05:57:45 2014 No.2060214 >>2058831 the weird ice(?) grotto near the entrance of forest meadow. forgot about that for years

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 06:01:48 2014 No.2060217 Well, thanks to the blue warp glitch after the Gohma fight, an any % run literally skips the entire game now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 06:49:08 2014 No.2060249 >>2058370 I don't like when people insult others on the net for no reason but this guy has a point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:14:48 2014 No.2061046 >>2060214 What? Explain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:17:03 2014 No.2061049 Has anybody found the hidden fairy room in Ganon's castle? No?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 17:35:51 2014 No.2061082 >>2061046 Bomb the ground in the entrance area of the sacred forest meadow. There's a room with shiny rainbow walls, two wolfos and a purple rupee.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:00:18 2014 No.2061115 You can kill gohma without ever using the slingshot she will drop from the ceiling if you wait and then you can stun her with deku nuts when I first played the game i thought this was what you were supposed to do

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:08:13 2014 No.2061132 >>2061115 I did this too lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:11:13 2014 No.2061143 Does anybody else think its strange that there's a friendly poe in the desert? Whats his backstory?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:12:59 2014 No.2061149 >>2061143 DEEEEEEPEST LOOOOOORE

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:24:01 2014 No.2061173 >>2059975 You can also do that with the first gen Pokemon games http://lparchive.org/Pokemon-Blue/TAS1/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 18:27:02 2014 No.2061178 >>2058985 >______fags back to /v/ you go

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 19:21:08 2014 No.2061301 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:00:31 2014 No.2061368 File: 11 KB, 298x254, 245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The intro song sounds just like the tune the recorder plays in Legend of Zelda.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:19:35 2014 No.2061385 >>2058831 That one grotto that is temple ruins instead of a cave was pretty neat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:22:56 2014 No.2061401 >>2061385 Where?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:30:41 2014 No.2061415 >>2061385 I've never seen this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:32:51 2014 No.2061419 >>2061401 Can't remember. It was in Hyrule field I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:35:09 2014 No.2061425 >>2061419 Was it only one room? Did it have like columns or a stone floor or anything like a fairy fountain?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:38:50 2014 No.2061435 >>2058315 That almost sounds like a programming error, rather than a deliberate thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:38:59 2014 No.2061436 >>2061419 Sounds like the one with a heart piece, you need the gold scale.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:40:41 2014 No.2061440 >>2060010 >Intentional sequence breaking >in Ocarina of Time haha no that's just design oversights.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:41:13 2014 No.2061442 >>2061436 Where is it? Why can't you use iron boots?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:42:01 2014 No.2061443 >>2061425 It's just a regular grotto except half of the walls and ceiling are textured with grey brick and some broken pillars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:42:09 2014 No.2061445 >>2061115 >>2061132 >The game outright tells you to aim for the eye >It should be obvious that you should shoot the damn thing with the slingshot >"lol I'm going to wait around like a moron"

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:46:35 2014 No.2061452 >>2061442 North west of Lon Lon Ranch by the stream. The boots would work too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:46:37 2014 No.2061453 >>2061443 I want to see it. Do you remember where in hyrule field?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:48:23 2014 No.2061459 >>2061435 Yeah, probably just a case of a shared palette.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:48:23 2014 No.2061460 >>2061452 >northwest of Lon Lon Ranch, by the stream In that little area with the trees and the big poe across the river?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 20:48:56 2014 No.2061463 >>2061453 I'll go look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:07:32 2014 No.2061480 >>2061459 >shared palette >in a 3d game

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:32:11 2014 No.2061525 >>2061463 No luck, sorry. Someone has to know It's not this one >>2061452

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:32:54 2014 No.2061527 >>2061049 Oh yeah, that room is really easy to overlook. I don't think I ever found it as a kid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:35:34 2014 No.2061530 >>2061480 what are textures?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:38:43 2014 No.2061537 >>2061385 The one was hidden near the Sacred Forest Meadow entrance?

Anonymous Tue Nov 11 21:57:53 2014 No.2061570

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_Secrets#Hidden_Holes

Here's a list of holes. Hyrule Field holes are 9-16. Opening Hole 14 requires the Megaton Hammer and contains a Fairy Fountain, and Hole 15 is the one with a Heart Piece deep underwater.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 22:24:48 2014 No.2061614 >>2061570 Holy shit, that was interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 11 23:13:45 2014 No.2061676 The Goron Bracelet allows Child Link to pick up Bomb Flowers, but it also has an obscure purpose: if you don't obtain the Goron Bracelet, Adult Link won't be able to push the large blocks in the Forest Temple.

All Glory to Christ the Lord Tue Nov 11 23:51:03 2014 No.2061727
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>>2061143
Not just him, but about the backstory to ALL the creatures in OoT. For instance take the secret grotto with two Wolfos in front of the Sacred Forest maze. If you look at the ceiling of the grotto it's made of stone, implying you are underneath an architectural base that has simply been overrun by forest, making it look like a hedge maze (which from the pillars and Fairy Fountain is obvious). It's been suggested that this secret bizmuth quarry is a safe room for the royal family who once ruled the castle. This is also in keeping with the fact there is a grotto within Hyrule Castle's gates curiously enough. The question is why are those two wolfos there?
We learn in SS from Fi that Stalfos are humans that were reanimated by evil. If we assume then that all "fos" are a similar end-product of a curse, along with Fado's telling you that ALL humans who find themselves lost in the forest become "monsters," then it all makes sense.

Subsequently, this begs the question of the selective placement of all the Wolfos in the forest! Haven't you ever thought it odd that the two Wolfos lurking at the entrance to the temple are the only ones you meet in it? It's as if there are only two because they were once the courtyard guards, and the wolfos before them guards to the royal maze.

Consider the following, if that's not the case why are the poe sisters the only one of the castle's inhabitants who remained behind with it? It seems an epidemic once swept the castle as the forest grove took over turning all to animals, and evil ones who invaded later to loot it into Stalfos.

All Glory to Christ the Lord Wed Nov 12 00:02:49 2014 No.2061739
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>>2061727
I'm actually of the opinion that the forest temple itself is meant to be "alive" and forming a mirage over a now decrepit building that resembles the broken staircase that leads to it. My theory stems from the eyeball switch after the block maze which is symbolic of the maze outside, and then the eye linked to the door brings to mind the stark contrast between the elegant interior of the forest temple and its surroundings. If you shoot the eye, the entire perspective changes to resemble how it really appears, as if to say the eye was tricking you. When you traverse through to the end of the room it leads you to, you find another warpy eye switch in a room that doesn't resemble the rest of the forest temple. Except this eye you have to shoot OPEN because it's been frozen shut.

At first glance it may seem like this is overreading, but in reality it would be thoughtless to consider that Nintendo didn't put such investment into the story of all such enemies, and that they just threw them together with minimal directive. This is an era where 3D was still being tested and every design still had a story behind it. It's the attention to detail today's games lack in their automated CGI handling and what makes older games prevalent in the lore we all know and love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:17:19 2014 No.2061756 >>2061739 >>2061727 DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPEST LOOOOOOOOORE!!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:24:15 2014 No.2061772 >>2057658 >>you can tell a poison poe from a healing poe by its hue By it's laugh? Are they brazilians?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:32:44 2014 No.2061785 >>2061756 >>>/v/ fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:41:18 2014 No.2061795 >>2058770 >tfw 1.0 grey cart

Anonymous Wed Nov 12 00:42:31 2014 No.2061798

>>2061440
They are absolutely not.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197771-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time/50740532

They thought through this shit and deliberately programmed it in. Likewise, just being able to completely skip the Lens of Truth if you want is awesome. I'm fairly certain that they meant for the Fire Arrows to be optional, but using them instead of Din's Fire I'm not so sure about.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:18:12 2014 No.2062770 You can knock back Ganondorf's energy balls with an empty bottle. This also works on Phantom Ganon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:19:41 2014 No.2062772 >>2061772 >hue It means a shade of a certain color. Light purple poes heal you. Dark purple are poison.

Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:28:08 2014 No.2062793

>>2060135
the same thing happens in mario 64, if you punch butterflies they turn into either 1up mushrooms or the little fireball orb things

>>2061739
>>2061727
oh man, i have a whole bunch of word documents with messy theories on oot's locations and implied history
each of the temples are extremely well fortified and hidden away from the public in the guise of decrepit buildings, so that the ancient sages could pray in peace, and you can infer a lot from the scenery, locale, items/enemies within and Navi's exposition
i'll condense it into readable chunks and post them here in a bit

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:33:24 2014 No.2062801 >>2062793 >i'll condense it into readable chunks and post them here in a bit Thabk you based anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 17:58:19 2014 No.2062851 >>2062793 Oh man I actually love this kind of stuff, eagerly awaiting

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 12 19:54:42 2014 No.2063084 Bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 00:49:45 2014 No.2063676 >>2058612 >by floating over the valley with the cucco You can also jump the gap with Epona, That's why I think the mushroom thing is possibly intentional.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 01:23:42 2014 No.2063747 >>2058849 Also in "Bottom of The Well" area there's red blood splatter everywhere, I didnt even realize it was gone until my brother pointed it out when I was playing MQ on the Gamecube

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 02:26:26 2014 No.2063820 >>2062770 And although that's a glitch, it was included intentionally in Wind Waker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 03:23:07 2014 No.2063918 >>2063676 That has no relevance to getting to that chest as a child.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 06:15:19 2014 No.2064074 >>2058770 V1.0 Gray cart right master race here Same one I've always had since I was younger. I couldn't imagine playing any other stripped version.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 06:34:51 2014 No.2064085 >>2063820 I don't think it's a glitch so much as an easter egg. You can reflect Agahnim's energy attacks with the Bug Net in LTTP too. Seems like it's a recurring gag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 06:42:32 2014 No.2064093 >>2057947 How do you trigger the Bongo Bongo cutscene to get the song to get inside the shadow temple without doing the Forest/Fire/Water temples?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 06:43:05 2014 No.2064095 >>2061798 >Linking to GameFAQs >Linking to a topic that has nothing to do with sequence breaking, let alone intentional sequence breaking Come on, man. You can do better than that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 13 06:45:10 2014 No.2064098 >>2064093 You don't. You use game bugs to climb up and around the graveyard into the entryway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 00:58:36 2014 No.2065749 >>2061082 bismuth

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 05:07:02 2014 No.2066053 File: 257 KB, 845x694, bismuth_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2065749 Hell yeah bismuth

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 05:10:54 2014 No.2066059 File: 10 KB, 267x200, 1415959854260.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2057658 Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 15:34:45 2014 No.2066769 >>2066059 What the fuck is that?

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 15:59:44 2014 No.2066803

>>2066769
This is in the Lakeside Laboratory near Lake Hylia, inside the building if you use the iron boots to sink down to the scientists pool. There was intended to be a shark behind the bars, like this picture from a preview magazine shows, but was taken out in the final game.

Why did the scientist have a shark? I dunno.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 16:11:51 2014 No.2066815 File: 20 KB, 418x233, Neptune_Smashing_Glass[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2066803 >Why did the scientist have a shark? That is a DAMN good question.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 16:14:16 2014 No.2066819 post yfw you realize Malon is a Gerudo

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 16:23:31 2014 No.2066837 >>2066803 Is it in the Ocarina 3DS remake?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 16:29:23 2014 No.2066845 >>2066803 >>2066815 Well, the shark is behind the water tank ? The very same water tank where some eggs are ? Zora eggs ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 16:52:27 2014 No.2066891 >>2066845 that's majora's mask.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 16:56:25 2014 No.2066907 >>2066891 There's nothing in the water tank in OoT ? Fuck, i should re-play it

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 17:02:37 2014 No.2066923 >>2066803 It wasn't removed in the final game

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 17:14:02 2014 No.2066946 File: 181 KB, 640x480, 1416003242657.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2066803 >but was taken out in the final game You messed up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 17:17:40 2014 No.2066957 >>2066946 >>2066923 Oh, sorry. Been a long time. I haven't sat down and played a video game for more than ~15 minutes at a time for well over 2 years now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 19:46:16 2014 No.2067194 Bizump

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 19:47:26 2014 No.2067198 >>2066819 Wut

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 19:53:57 2014 No.2067209 I started a new file and entered the bottom of the well today, just after leaving the forest. I used the cuckoo dive technique.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:00:03 2014 No.2067224 >>2066803 Why wouldn't you have a shark? Are you some kind of faggot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:15:06 2014 No.2067260 >>2067224 Why wouldn't I have a shark? Hmm, let's see. Probably the fact that they're super expensive to take care of.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:16:48 2014 No.2067267 >>2067260 Hmm, I see your point. As a counterargument, uh, IT'S A FUCKING SHARK >Check >Mate

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:19:25 2014 No.2067272 >>2059009 >inaccessable through normal gameplay No it's not. You can get there as a child if you jump into the water as soon as the zora diving game's timer reachez 0:00

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:24:59 2014 No.2067279 >>2067272 Does that have some kind of navi dive effect, where Link sinks to the bottom because there's dialogue?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:28:30 2014 No.2067284 >>2064085 Yeah, there's a similar thing in Twilight Princes; you can distract Ganondorf with the fishing rod.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:39:57 2014 No.2067307 >>2067279 Yeah, that's it.

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:42:42 2014 No.2067314
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There's this three in lake Hylia with three slash marks. They don't seem to have any purpose, and it's never explained why are they there.

As a kid, I thought they were left there by some kind of giant monster with big claws.

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:45:16 2014 No.2067317
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>>2067314
*tree

Also, It always intrigued me why there's a broken pillar when the rest are completely flawless. I used to think it was broken by the same monster that slashed the tree.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:46:31 2014 No.2067323 >>2067314 >>2067317 I thought the same thing. Are you me?

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:48:46 2014 No.2067327

>admiring the scenery instead of complaining about the pain in the ass controls on a higlyly flawed game
Modern gaming in a nutshell. All started with the N64.

Honestly, if Nintendo had just given up and said to hell with the N64, gaming would be so much better right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:54:35 2014 No.2067337 File: 229 KB, 917x720, edgy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2067327 Since we're on the subject of bismuth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:56:12 2014 No.2067340 >>2067337 >complaining about bad gaming is edgy It must suck to have grown up playing the worst gaming console ever released.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 20:57:49 2014 No.2067343 >>2067340 But I never had a PS1 as a kid...

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:00:15 2014 No.2067351

>>2067343
Oh good, the old underage dodge. A good indicator that you're trying to ignore those thoughts in your head that I'm right and have won the argument.

The N64 was pretty much terrible except for maybe a couple of games and it corrupted an entire generation of gamers.

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:02:28 2014 No.2067359

>>2067198
Not 100% confirmed, but there are certainly signs that point to it.
>Red hair
>Mother absent
>Gerudo known to have Hylian boyfriends
>If you speak to Talon wearing the Gerudo mask he says it reminds him of Malon's mother
I'd imagine Malon's mother thought it was a better idea to have her grow up on a ranch rather than among a band of thieves

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:03:42 2014 No.2067362 >>2067351 I had an NES and an N64 growing up. Neither of those are the "worst console ever released" because that title goes to the Sega 32x or Virtual Boy or something. Also, you can't deny that the original PlayStation was garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:03:46 2014 No.2067364 >>2067314 >>2067317 Are they there in child Link's time too? If not they might have been left by Morpha, though it doesn't have any discernible claws.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:05:07 2014 No.2067367 >>2067362 If the PS1 is garbage what does that make the Saturn?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:07:34 2014 No.2067371 >>2067367 We're not talking about the Saturn. PS1 had Silent Hill, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy IX, and Symphony Of The Night. Everything else was garbage. Yes, that includes FF7.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:09:34 2014 No.2067373 >>2067359 Oh shit, I'd totally forgotten about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:19:34 2014 No.2067397 >>2067364 >Are they there in child Link's time too? >Fairy slingshot, kokiry sword, deku stcks.

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:21:50 2014 No.2067406

>>2067371
>We're not talking about the Saturn.

We are now. You can't just throw out a statement like "the PS1 was garbage" when comparing it to the N64 when there was worse hardware in that generation, and the PS1's library is beyond reproach when it comes to choice. Just because your taste is narrower than a nun's cunt doesn't mean the PS1's library is poor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:22:00 2014 No.2067408 >>2067371 >what is Spyro >what is Crash Bandicoot >what is MediEvil >what is Doom Also, >FF7 >bad

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:28:46 2014 No.2067435

>>2067408
>what is Spyro
A boring game that looks like an interactive Nick Jr show, isn't even slightly challenging, and has terrible graphics, and story that's cliche and generic enough to rival Super Mario 64. It's one big fetch quest, with eggs instead of stars. The voice acting is god awful. At least Nintendo knew to keep the voice acting to a minimum. Also,
>Kids like pseudo-edgy shit, right?
>Why not give him a skateboard and a punk attitude?
Spyro is an easy, boring game for rebellious 5 year olds.
>what is Crash Bandicoot
A really weird, bizarro version of Mario. Nothing original. Nothing to talk about. Don't even get me started on CTR. That game just pisses me off.
>what is MediEvil
A really strange Zelda knock-off, with a shitty story and awkward controls.
>>what is Doom
A PC game that was ported to the Playstation. Doesn't count.
>FF7
>bad
Yes. Bad, ugly, melodramatic, and overrated. The series peeked at Final Fantasy VI

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:31:21 2014 No.2067445

>>2067327
>>2067340
>>2067343
>>2067351
>>2067359
>>2067359
>>2067362
>>2067367
>>2067371
>>2067406
>>2067406
>>2067408
>>2067435
Ladies, please, take your bitching where it belongs:

>>>/v/

In this thread we're talking about OoT's glitches and secrets.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:36:29 2014 No.2067451 >>2067435 Ladies and gentleman, I present to you: a Nintendo babby. Seriously, people always call Nintendo games "brilliant" and "innovative" but what has Zelda even done for the gaming industry? It's a fucking generic action RPG series.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:38:28 2014 No.2067456 >>2067451 That's wonderful, why don't you make a thread about it instead of derailing a perfectly good one?

Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:39:23 2014 No.2067459
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>>2067451
>what has Zelda even done for the gaming industry?
The Legend Of Zelda (NES) was the first game with a battery save function. Without Zelda, you'd still be entering 50 character passwords. Also, I'm pretty sure the Zelda series invented targeting/lock-on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:42:10 2014 No.2067465 >>2067459 Don't contradict him, you're only making it worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 21:55:54 2014 No.2067479 File: 2.28 MB, 1409x2429, 1405066398093.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2067459 >>2067465 >>2067456 Goddammit, you people, just use the report function and go back to talking about OoT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 22:31:32 2014 No.2067540 >>2067451 It's the only 'fucking generic' action RPG series; nothing else has the kind of scope it would need to be so all encompassing as to be equally generic or defining of the genre.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 14 23:58:45 2014 No.2067726 >>2067459 >Without Zelda, you'd still be entering 50 character passwords That's not how history works.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 02:28:19 2014 No.2067923

>>2067726
if you're >>2067451, just stop. I'm leaving now but I thought maybe you could be a reasonable person, just this time, and leave all baiting and hate aside. Nintendo made gaming history with Zelda and that isn't even debatable. Have a nice one, PLEASE.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 15:32:01 2014 No.2068817

>>2061445
People don't read

I've known peopel to miss out on entire portions of Zelda games, shit like ever getting a Hylian shield, because they never talked to anyone or just rushed through shit,

>What am I supposed to do?
>THAT GAME JUST TOLD YOU!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 15:41:15 2014 No.2068840 >>2068817 y cant metroid crawl :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 15:41:43 2014 No.2068841 File: 57 KB, 500x683, tumblr_n8rvgp5yhJ1qhttpto2_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2067314 >That trees not in the 3DS version I wish I still had my N64 and copies of OoT and MM

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 15:58:00 2014 No.2068870 >>2067359 >Gerudos are famous for horse taming >Malon learns Epona's song from her mother.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 16:28:01 2014 No.2068924 >>2063747 No, that's still in the GC/MQ version.

SOMEONE PLS TRY OUT AND TAKE V(...) Sat Nov 15 16:31:29 2014 No.2068925

Step 1. Play any song that will warp you, or Saria's Song.

Step 2. When the words appear that tell you what song you played, pull out the left side of cartridge just enough so that Link disappears, being careful not to freeze the game.

Now the tricky part:

Step 3. Quickly after this screen disappears, before the next screen pops up, quickly push the left side of the cartridge back in. Be careful not to pull the right side out. For those of us who are right handed, keep the right part of your hand pushing down on the right side of the cart. If done right you won't see a the little yellow line in the corner until you see some letters or words or crap.

More help: You will see some cool crap. Sometimes it just scrolls across the screen and freezes. Sometimes it scrolls all the way across the screen and stops. Sometimes it scrolls across and comes to the other side of the screen. When you see the crap, but the game does not freeze, wait for a few seconds and a little blue arrow will appear. Low and behold, just when you think it's done, sometimes 20 more screens of crap will appear. If you see the little blue square, and hit A, the text box will disappear with the game frozen. There are hundreds of different results for this code.

Here are some of my best results:

#1: "100$" and I heard a shudder as in the beginning cut scene.

#2: "00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}00'00'{Z button symbol}" and etc. This repeated and overlapped on my screen twice.

#3: "Á", then "Á", then "Á", then "Á", then "Á", then "Á", then "Ateteta" then "Á", then "Á", then "Á", then "Á"

#4: "O" Then it zoomed out and got dark.

#5: "B ïhé ä ÁhÏxÈ ëhB ïhe ÁpÈ"

#6: "drlm the Gpe't F'ipy$s"

#7. Nothing happened and I was able to walk around with just Link and the Temple of Time. No buttons. No life bar. No magic bar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 16:32:41 2014 No.2068928 >>2062793 Where is this anon? Eagerly awaiting...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 16:49:03 2014 No.2068947 look and OfT thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 16:53:58 2014 No.2068954 >>2068947 And yet here you are bumping them.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 17:17:35 2014 No.2068998

I'm playing the GC version of the game. I made it out of the forest with no sword or shield. I used a deku stick to navi dive out. I went to the fishing hole and tried to steal the rod (so that I can put the deku sticks on the B button) but I encountered a problem. I can't use the fishing rod. It won't cast, which means that I can't steal it. Does it have anything to do with the fact that I don't have a sword?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 17:30:58 2014 No.2069009 >>2068998 No, it has to do with the fact that the GC version is based on v1.2 and not v1.0.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 17:33:59 2014 No.2069013

>>2069009
No, it doesn't. I've put deku sticks on the B button on my GC version before and they worked, but I had a sword on that file. Deku sticks on B crash the game in v1.0

Also, I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about being able to cast the fishing rod in the fishing area without picking up the Kokiri sword.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 17:39:50 2014 No.2069021

>>2069009
Sorry if I was being a dick in this post: >>2069013
I'm frustrated that the game isn't doing what I want it to do. I stayed up until 5 in the morning last night trying to create my own alternative quest, based around glitches and sequence breaking. I plan on posting the dungeon/item order here when I'm done. I'm trying to beat the game without ever picking up the Kokiri sword. I could just use Deku sticks with C, but I want to put them on the B button because its more comfortable, and it mighy (possibly) trick Mido into thinking you have a sword when you don't, and that would be interesting.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 17:59:57 2014 No.2069057

>>2069021
>I stayed up until 5 in the morning last night trying to create my own alternative quest, based around glitches and sequence breaking. I plan on posting the dungeon/item order here when I'm done. I'm trying to beat the game without ever picking up the Kokiri sword.
You have my attention.

Anonymous Sat Nov 15 18:29:20 2014 No.2069092

>>2069057
It's not finished yet. However, you should have:
>three empty bottles
>the Hylian shield
>deku nuts
>deku sticks (possibly mapped to the B button)
>the lens of truth
>silver scale
>bombchus
>Zelda's Lullaby
>Saria's Song
>Sun's Song
>Epona's Song
>Adult wallet
>Magic
>Din's Fire
>Farore's Wind
>possibly Goron bracelet
Before even entering a dungeon. The Great Deku Tree should still be closed up, Dodongo's Cavern should still be blocked, the well should still be full, and Jabu-Jabu's mouth should still be closed.

Also, the Kokiri Sword, Deku Shield, Song Of Storms, Bombs, and Fairy Ocarina are completely optional at this point.

The reason I said maybe the Goron bracelet is because it might be skipable, and getting it might cause problems in the adult portion of the game. This is a work in progress.

Also, when I work out all of the bugs and post the thread about this quest, I'll probably put on a trip to avoid confusion in the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 18:43:30 2014 No.2069110 File: 66 KB, 640x426, ass_chest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >no mention of ass chest Let's fix that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjlyi-Ie3Us

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 18:45:29 2014 No.2069114 >>2069110 Kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 19:06:40 2014 No.2069147 Bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 20:07:38 2014 No.2069245 >>2057947 I've been watching Legend of Zaheer's streams of Majora's Mask. Speedrunners are ridiculous. If you want to see how broken OoT is though, youtube Cosmo's 18:10 speed run

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 22:41:45 2014 No.2069526 >>2069092 That actually sounds really fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 23:06:20 2014 No.2069587 >>2069245 I just watched that, and it sent me into a speedrun frenzy. Right now i'm warching HL2. Got any other amazing speedrun suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 23:25:00 2014 No.2069627 >>2069587 Mega Man X Contra Super C GTA3

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 15 23:40:44 2014 No.2069647 >>2069627 I'll get to those, Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 06:13:04 2014 No.2070141 >>2069013 1.1 and beyond fixed the steal rod glitch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 15:16:48 2014 No.2070770 >>2067459 >Save games PCs had save games since the 70s >Lock-on What is Tomb Raider

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 15:19:56 2014 No.2070780 >>2068925 I've done the crooked cartridge trick dozens of times on my N64 games, there's no risk. I like to use it to leave Kokiri forest right away and do the dungeons out of order.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 16 16:26:18 2014 No.2070887 >>2057658 I remember freezing my game when Gerudo guards caught me while I was mid-air with the hookshot

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