/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2053024]

Who is "the face" of classic Phantasy Star games? Technically, it should be Alis but Nei seems to be more popular.

[Anonymous No.2053231]

Why not both? Ken Sugimori seems to think that way.

[Anonymous No.2053236]

Probably Alys from 4 since more people played 4 than 1.

[Anonymous No.2053252]

to me it's Alis. It would be more of a sure thing if she was the main character of PSIV like she was originally meant to be.

[Anonymous No.2053282]

Kill ALL the human beings

[Anonymous No.2053308]

Is it the same alys of 4?

[Anonymous No.2053318]

If you're talkin characters, probably Alys
but a Numan rocks up every game, such as Nei and Rika etc
also
isn't rune literally a recurring character, turning up as some kinda everlasting wizard all the time? or those droids like Wren?

and dark force rocks up a lot too

[Anonymous No.2053326]

>>2053318
Wren is like the black guy of the game.
But tell me, is Alys in the first game (the same alys of psiv)?

[Anonymous No.2053351]

>>2053236
Alys is not Alis, they just have similar names due to localization screwups.

[Anonymous No.2053421]

>>2053351
Ok.
I really liked the Alys in psiv. Too bad she dies

[Anonymous No.2053425]

>>2053024
>beefy guy picking up and throwing a skeleton

That's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.2053426]

>>2053421
this is the entire reason I have never finished PSIV

if there was a romhack where that other fucker dies instead I would happily finish it

[Anonymous No.2053438]

>>2053426
I like how you think. Also she was quite an useful character. Later Rika more or less fills her role (in combat)

[Anonymous No.2053478]

>>2053426
There's a romhack that makes all characters (even those who are temporary) available from lv1, if I remember correctly, and you can swap anyone you want anytime.

[Anonymous No.2053618]

>>2053425

Fuck skeletons

[Anonymous No.2053623]

>>2053326
No, I'm pretty sure she's just a descendant of her.

[Anonymous No.2053627]

>>2053351
I know, I wasn't saying she was the same. But the character from 4 is more widely known than the one from 1, I imagine, since a lot more people played 4.

[Anonymous No.2053751]

>just got a Genesis
>everyone says to get IV
>IV is expensive
Three questions
1)how much better is IV than the rest
2)Can someone play IV with no prior knowledge of the series?

Essentially I'm asking if I may as well pick up an earlier, cheaper Phantasy Star instead.

[Anonymous No.2053764]

>>2053751
Quite to Much better, depending on which one you are comparing it to.
You don't need to know anything from the other games.

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't play the earlier ones too.

[Anonymous No.2053770]

>>2053751
It's massively better. One of the best 16 bit RPGs. The others are literally ONLY worth playing if you love IV enough that you want to learn the history, they're that much worse.

[Anonymous No.2053778]

>>2053751
>>2053764
>>2053770
I would even call the first three genuinely bad games. They certainly couldn't be called timeless classics by even the wildest exaggeration. IV is.

[Anonymous No.2053797]

>>2053024
Wren.

>>2053751
1)Slightly
2)You don't need to play them in order. I played 4 first.

>>2053778
How do you even fit all those cocks in your mouth?

[Anonymous No.2053868]

>>2053231
Worst Nei fanart ever (not really, but eugh). Dig the classy Alis, though.

[Anonymous No.2053917]

Alis 4eva.
haven't played 4.
didn't like 3
loved 2
cherish 1

[Anonymous No.2053940]

>>2053778

1 and 2 are amazing games if you judge them as the 80s games that they are.

Sure if you try and hold up the first 3 with today's standards in mind, PS4 is the only one that holds up, it reminds me of chrono trigger in that regard.

[Anonymous No.2053945]

>>2053917

>haven't played 4

nigga, if you cherish 1 you need to play 4.

[Anonymous No.2054261]

>>2053326
>>2053623
No, they're not related in any way. Alis/Alisa left the Algo star system without an heir to colonise elsewhere as seen in Phantasy Star Gaiden. Alys' name in the Japanese version is Lyla. PS4 translation just changes names around for no real reason.

[Anonymous No.2054265]

>>2054261

>Lyla

Lyla is sort of an airhead sounding name, its kinda similar to how terra sounds way better than tina, generally speaking.

[Anonymous No.2054276]

Do you need to play PS 1-3 in order to under to understand 4? I don't like the first three since they have shitty graphics and lack cut scenes / animations in dialogs.

[Anonymous No.2054284]

>>2054276

The story for all the games is related, as they all take place in the same solar system and involve the same antagonist, but most of the games take place centuries apart from eachother.

I played 4 first and not knowing the story from the first 3 basically only resulted in me missing some references to those events, but I still understood the game.

That said, 1 and 2 are worth playing, at the very least.

[Anonymous No.2054504]

I always wonder if generation system in Fire Emblem 4 was inspired by PS3. However, there was also Romancing Saga 2 between those two games.

[Anonymous No.2054704]

>>2053252
>she was originally meant to be.
sauce?

[Anonymous No.2054754]

>>2053318
Rune/Noah/Lutz appears in I, II and IV. Wren appears only in III. The Wren from IV is "Fowren" a Wren-type android but not the same Wren as the one in III.
Wrens are machines like Nissan Altimas are machines. There are newer models and come in different colours, but they same basic design each. Maybe he was called 'Fowren" in Japan because the game was Phantasy Star FOUR (so FOURWren rather than THREEWren). Like how each new Altima has another year appended to it (2004 Altima! 2006 Altima! 2014 Altima!). Prolly not, but it's a nifty idea.

>>2054276
>>2053751
III happens concurrently with IV and is not necessary to play to enjoy IV. Think of IV as the true III and III as a side project.
That said, IV does the job well enough to cover the events of the prior games in a concise enough manner that playing the other games would not be necessary to enjoy it. It's a fairly stand alone game.

>>2053438
>>2053426
Alys/Lyla would have made a better protag than faggy-named Chaz. Chaz doesn't have the same sense of tenacity and duty that she did. Having him fill the role of protag was poor script choice, IMO. I could see Alys wanting to do all that good stuff, but I don't see what Chaz' Motaviation (u c wut i did there) was for doing all that stuff.
Plus, Alys extorting money from the people she helped woulda been fun.

Personally? I think Nei sucks. She was boring and stupid and I hated her. And fuck her for not wanting to equip things I want her to equip.
Nonetheless, she's better known, so her over Alis, I'm afraid. Alys could never bee the face cuz she kicks the bucket a fifth of the way through PSIV.

And I liked III's idea even though it had tonnes of glitches and poor execution and no story-telling. I and IV are the best then II then III.

[Anonymous No.2054858]

The Rappy.

[Anonymous No.2054921]

>>2053751

I got my copy of IV for $25.

[Anonymous No.2054930]

So, uh, Phantasy Star Generation 2 translation is out! The french translation, that is.

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/2301/

[Anonymous No.2054937]

>>2054930
I speak French! Yay!
Is there a French script somewhere? I can translate it into German, Italian and English if there is!

[Anonymous No.2054941]

>>2053751
Phantasy Star 1 is excellent but unless you have a Master System or Power Base Converter you're shit outta luck. It also doesn't play anything like the sequels.

[Anonymous No.2055073]

>>2054930
i'm confused
>This version of the remake does not include a French version of this original game. The Japanese ROM has been replaced with the English ROM instead.

so does it come with english or what?

[Anonymous No.2055091]

Who is the face of PSO? Ash? Sue? Eleanor?

[Anonymous No.2055094]

>>2055073
It comes with the original genesis game (in english) built-in.

[Anonymous No.2055104]

>>2053252
It's interesting how they used classic designs for Alis, Nei and Rolf instead of updated ones from Generations. I remember lots of people disliked frilly Nei.

[Anonymous No.2055108]

>>2055094
ah, thanks.
So still no English PSG2 then.

[Anonymous No.2055224]

>>2053751
>>IV is expensive

Boom. It's been release on collections a few times.

Get this for 20 bones and have fun.

[Anonymous No.2056170]

>>2054858
Rappies are an insignificant random encounter in 3 and and joke sidequest in 4. They really aren't in any way an appropriate representative of the classic games.

>>2055091
Ash, or at least the default HUmar design is featured the most prominently in official art, so he's "the face" all right.

[Anonymous No.2056287]

>>2053024

Dark Force

[Anonymous No.2056343]

>>2055108
If someone can dump the French script, I'll translate it. Someone else will have to hack the translation back into the game, though, cuz I can't into pootrunes.

[Anonymous No.2056348]

Why are French people such assholes and not translating it into English for everyone to enjoy?

Might as well translate it into Finnish just because.

[NESfag No.2056349]

>>2056348
French people don't speak English.

[Anonymous No.2056350]

>>2056349
Fuck them, they are some rude assholes as well, they deserve everything bad that's happening to them now.

[Anonymous No.2056351]

>>2056348
ikr?
I am an Italian. I work in translation. My cousin is also an Italian who works in translation. We translate to and from different languages. He can read and right and speak moon (I can only speak moon; can't into moonrunes).
As a side project for him to do on his own, he famously translated the script for a very, very popular Japanese RPG a few years ago. Did he do it into Italian? No. He did it into English. Why? Specifically to reach a wider audience.

If I could read moon, I'd spend a bit of my extra time translating game scripts into English, but I don't. I read Korean but there aren't many Korean RPGs anyone's really interested in having translated.

If someone would just dump the French script, I could translate it into English and a few other languages, too, just for fun and cuz I love you guys.

[Anonymous No.2056357]

>>2056349
If they work in translation, they should at the very least speak, read and write three languages (or more):

their native tongue
English
some supplemental language/s

French people are just arseholes.
Many of the ones I work with (translation firm) are arrogant pricks who, despite speaking English (and well), tend to refuse to do so unless absolutely necessary, even though we live in an English-speaking country. They're like FOB Koreans who act like the characters from Battle Royale.
>Oh no! I can't be more than a few metres away from another French/Korean person or I'll explode!!!

Right cunts, I tell ya.

[Anonymous No.2056364]

>>2053868

I think it's kinda neat; if she's meant to be some kinda bioengineered thing she could stand looking a bit more 'alien' so to speak.

[Anonymous No.2056373]

>>2056351

MAOranza ?

[Anonymous No.2056412]

>>2056357
Okay virgin

[Anonymous No.2056428]

>>2056412
>Using virgin as a insult on 4chan

[Anonymous No.2056442]

I hope they fired whoever was in charge of the menu portraits.

[Anonymous No.2056448]

>>2056351
>(I can only speak moon; can't into moonrunes).
Out of curiosity how did you learn moonspeak? I've never heard of learning a language verbal-only. Is it something that only translators do? It seems a little halfarsed to me.

[Anonymous No.2056471]

>>2056448
My uncle, an Italian, married a Japanese woman. Living in the same building as they did, I grew up as much in their house as I did in my own and my brothers and I picked up conversational Japanese from my aunt. She spoke Japanese to her own half-Japanese children often as well as to us, to a lesser degree.
My aunt taught my cousins how to read and write basic Japanese and the translator cousin studied it at uni to get a better grasp, so he can better read and write it as well as speak.

I have tried to learn to read it, but I can't. It's been since discovered that I have moonlexia.

Did you know that different sorts of dyslexia exist for different writing systems? I can read alphabets of all sorts quite well but have strong difficulties with logographic writing systems. Japanese being a mix of syllabary and logograms is very difficult for me to read. :-(

It's not uncommon for multilingual people to suffer monolingual dyslexia. There's a famous case of a Japanese-Australian who was bilingual with Japanese and English. His family moved to Japan and discovered that though he can read and write English very, very well, reading and writing Japanese was nearly impossible for him. I think he moved back to Aussieland as soon as he could do so.

[Anonymous No.2056545]

>>2056442
Damn, even PSG1 didn't look that bad.

[Anonymous No.2058470]

>>2053425
Pretty spooky if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.2058479]

>>2053778
>I would even call the first three genuinely bad games. They certainly couldn't be called timeless classics by even the wildest exaggeration

Kill yourself
Phantasy Star is better than most of the rpgs from this era, and had more pioneering ideas than FF (I and II) and DQ II combined. And it was better than FF to me.

[Anonymous No.2058501]

>>2053425
know your priorities, fool
he would have tried to talk with the skeleton inside you and it would be all over

[Anonymous No.2058591]

[Anonymous No.2058667]

>>2058591
I've played each 16-bit and below PS game front to back several, several times and I still can't wrap my brain around what the hell that's supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.2059669]

>>2058667
You can't comprehend Giygas' form!

[red No.2060165]

>>2056349
Ha! Missed your posts, mah nigga!

[Anonymous No.2060201]

>>2055224
no it isn't.

2 and 3 are on there and 1 is unlockable via Sonic 2.

sad really.

[Anonymous No.2060238]

>>2059669
But that's not Giygas, either.

[Anonymous No.2061038]

>>2060201
iv is on there

[Anonymous No.2061089]

>>2061038
I stand corrected. how did I miss that?

[Anonymous No.2061612]

I was going to make a thread about PS, but I may as well post here.

I want to play this series. My question is, in what order should I play the games in, and in what medium? Should I play the Sega Saturn's collection?

[Anonymous No.2061620]

>>2061612
Are you a fan of SNES RPGS? --> start with IV

Are you a fan of 80s rpgs? ---> start with I

Any of the Genesis collections on Playstation 2, 3, or Xbox 360 should contain versions that are just fine. Avoid the steam version, it eats saves. If you want to play on your PC, download KEGA Fusion. Or just play it on your Genesis.

[Anonymous No.2061660]

>>2061612
Start from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.2061707]

more people need to care about Kyra. she's a QT and only outclassed as the 5th party member by a literal gamebreaker

[Anonymous No.2061718]

>>2061707
Demi is more fun.

[Anonymous No.2061837]

>>2061718

Ill grant you Demi is plenty is cute and fun but she doesn't have the sheer combo versatility Kyra does

[Anonymous No.2061984]

>>2061612

>>2061620
I'll second this chap's words. In addition PS1 and 2 both have retranslations. 2's retranslation does not work on real hardware and PS1 only has FM sound on a Japanese Master System or pimped out Mark III so you may wish to favour emulation for both.

[Anonymous No.2062237]

The first one is a grind fest and that last dungeon run is down right brutal.

If you can get past the first three hours of the game and add someone to your party, you'll likely make it through. its a gem, and I still marvel at how good it was compared to every other platform at the time.

[Anonymous No.2062239]

>>2061707

Why not both? Demi and Kyra were my favorite gals of PSIV.

[Anonymous No.2062241]

>>2062239

Also meant to reply to >>2061718

[Anonymous No.2062512]

>>2058667
Nightmare/Dark Force from PSIV

[Anonymous No.2062562]

>>2062239
>>2062241

well I don't think either of us are really against that it's just you're kinda in a one or the other situation at the end of the game

Nobody ever picks Gryz

[Anonymous No.2062567]

>>2062239
Because there's only one slot. Though even if there weren't, the 4 mandatory characters are all too good to drop. Maybe I'd drop Rika for Kyra.

[Anonymous No.2062579]

>>2061707
She's okay, but basically just a weaker version of Rune, although slicers are pretty awesome and one of the reasons I love the series as a whole. A decent 5th, to be sure.

>>2061718
Same thing here: alright, but a weaker version of Wren, with some light healing instead of extra cans of whoop-ass. It sucks having 2/5 members needing special items to heal though, and she really doesn't make the late-game cut damage-wise.

I preferred to use Raja for the "game breaking" and because it's just nice to have a dedicated healer.

I also used Hahn once to beat the game just for his sword combo with Chaz. It pales compared to Grand Cross, anyway. Hahn is the game's biggest pussy, just next to worthless. It was distasteful to use him.

Using the wookie is actually even worse than Hahn. So there's that, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.2062584]

>>2062579
With a dedicated healer, you can just cast full heal every turn and trivialize everything. That is why he is optional and considered easy mode.

[Anonymous No.2062690]

>>2062579

the healing isn't the game breaking thing about Raja.

he can cast holy damage spells by himself and every late game enemy has a crippling holy weakness

even Rika armed with the holy tusk is a bit game breaky

[Anonymous No.2062934]

>people dissing PS1

vr please
the game is amazing. if you haven't played it, close yr freaking browser right now and do it

[Anonymous No.2063186]

>>2062562

I don't blame them. He is not very useful compared with the others for that part of the game.

Even Hans seems more useful than Gryz because of his healing spells.

[Anonymous No.2063286]

>>2063186
>>2062562

it's a shame really, Gryz is a cool dude. Id be his bro

[Anonymous No.2064619]

>>2062690

Honestly, that's STILL not the game breaking thing about Raja. In the entire game, he is the only guy/item/whatever who can restore your TP! Megid every turn? FUCK-YES!

So how many of you fuckers have beaten the game with NO fifth member?

[Anonymous No.2065396]

>>2064619
>So how many of you fuckers have beaten the game with NO fifth member?

I remember I beat it with every 5th character but I dont think I ever did a no 5th. didn't actually think of it as an option

[Anonymous No.2065417]

Am I really the one one who's favorite is 3?

[Anonymous No.2065451]

>>2065396
Yeah, I don't think this is an option. I'm sure I'd have done this by now if it was possible.

>>2065417
Probably. Hah, it's a fun game, and I actually find it quite endearing. But as much as I love it for the quirks, the game nevertheless wears thin quickly compared to the others.

[Anonymous No.2065504]

>>2065417
>Am I really the one one who's favorite is 3?

Im gonna take the safe bet and say yes.

and then Im gonna ask WHY? because while I can see a lot of good ideas there, the actual execution is ...well shit.

[Anonymous No.2065564]

>>2065396
>>2065451

I could be a typical 4channer in my response, but seriously, it's a narrow window of opportunity for it. You only EVER have that option if you don't select a fifth member...once you pick someone, you're fucked.

But it IS doable, and possible if you set someone on Star-Dew duty, because Rika WILL run out of TP if you try to use Nasar all the time(and she should be putting up Deban and Saner anyway to start and when PD nullifies it). Truth be told, I think everyone was running out of their best skills/TP when I did it(save for Rika, who as my choice for spraying the Dews...).

[Anonymous No.2065615]

>>2065564
Ahhhhhhhhh, that makes sense. Nice, now I know what I'm playing next time work slows up.

[Anonymous No.2065783]

>>2065417
Yes.

It feels like playing a beta version of a game.

[Anonymous No.2065848]

>>2065564

Hmm. nice to know it's an option but it's not sounding like it's all that fun an experience

[Anonymous No.2065935]

>>2065783
it has so much fucking potential. its a really great skeleton , but it falls flat on so many levels.

That's a game that I wish they would have had in a later generation with a better crew working on it.

[Anonymous No.2066176]

>>2065935
Does anyone else remember that remake project for it, beeteedubs?

Also, has anyone played the Chinese bootlegs of the PS games on NES? I can't into moon but as I know the story already and what to do, I've gotten reasonably far in PSIV NES without that particular skill. It's surprisingly detailed for some NES RPG.

[Anonymous No.2066518]

>>2065935
>it has so much fucking potential

I love the idea of the generation system but the whole world was just so bland and listless

[Anonymous No.2066560]

>>2066518
I share your sentiment though I must admit that 10-year old me thought it was awesome when I found Laya's sister Laya in that temple near the android settlement.

[Anonymous No.2066562]

>>2066518
It has next to no reference to anything in the series save for the end. Whole immersive universe built and we get PS: Side Story sorta.

[Anonymous No.2066570]

>>2066562
At least the ship was named for Alis.

[Anonymous No.2066578]

>>2066570
Alisa, actually (Alis' jp name).
Localization team missed the reference, I think.

[Anonymous No.2066631]

>>2066578
What was the other ship named in that one ending?

[Anonymous No.2066639]

>>2066631
Neo Palm?

[Anonymous No.2066718]

>>2066639
Yeah, that was it. Neo Palm.

After playing that shitty SNES RPG, Secret of the Stars, I came up with an idea. In SotS, the gameplay switches between two parties. While this isn't remotely unique, I think it's a nifty idea in an otherwise shitty, shitty game.
PSIII's generation system and SotS party switch system gave me an idea that I doubt I will ever see implemented. I'd love to see a PSIV hack (or a homebrew that looks and functions a lot like it) that looks like PSIII, takes place in the same setting but functions with a party switch system between a party on the Alisia III and one on the Neo Palm with The Great Light acting as the catalyst between the parties and the true main character.
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.2067283]

>>2066718
>that looks like PSIII,

why would you want it too look worse?

[Anonymous No.2067298]

>>2067283
I like the character pics best in PSIII. Way better than PSIV and PSII. And them sprites ain't /too/ shabby, neever.

[Anonymous No.2067339]

>>2067298
>Way better than PSIV

PSIV's cut ins beat the hell out of ... well pretty much everything shy of Lunar 2's movies released at the time.

3 is just an all around ugly empty looking dull game visually and mechanically. All that goddamn dead space

[Anonymous No.2067345]

of all of its many problems the biggest with 3 is that everything just feels dead, especially when compared to other games in the series or at the time

[Anonymous No.2067350]

also this shit. unforgivable. even PS1 had more animation than this shit

[Anonymous No.2067352]

>>2067350

would help if I included my picture.

[Anonymous No.2067374]

>>2067339
I like those character portraits better than the character portraits in PSII or PSIV. The cutscenes don't count.
Did you know PSIV was originally intended to be for Sega CD but Sega was like "yeah... no." cuz the system was already on its way out by the time PSIV was to be released, so they reworked it as a MD/Genesis title.
I hear there's footage of the animations made for the CD version floating somewhere.

I like the comic book cutscenes from PSIV. Imagine PSIII done well and with that in it. That'd be awesome.

[Anonymous No.2067407]

>>2067374

it'd still need a better story, characters, color pallent and overworld. also a soundtrack that doesn't sound like someones cat feel asleep on the casio

[Anonymous No.2067417]

>>2067407
I think the story was fine, just needed expanding and to have party interaction.

[Anonymous No.2067447]

>>2067417

well thats kind of the thing. It's like they basically wrote an outline of a plot and forgot to fill in the details.

Miue and Wren especially had a lot of potential as characters being the ever faithful servents of the royal family, dutifully guarding their kids and having to watch their former comrades wither and die.

Also you couldn't bang Mieu. major crime right there

[Anonymous No.2067450]

>>2067447
I've said it in other PS threads, PSIII always felt like an unfinished prototype. Mostly because that's exactly what it was. It had the makings of awesomeness, but ultimately just fell short. A remake that fixes all of its problems would be pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.2067502]

>>2067352
Oh god, the more I think about it, the more PS III just seems like some generic RPG developed in best-Korea.

[Anonymous No.2067562]

Does PS3 have a lot of cut content still in the ROM, but blocked off due to time constraints?

it was rushed, wasn't it?

[Anonymous No.2067719]

>>2067562
>Does PS3 have a lot of cut content still in the ROM, but blocked off due to time constraints?

It would have to be a A LOOOOOOOOOOT of content. What's included in the game is seriously the most bare of bare bones shit.

>it was rushed, wasn't it?

It came out a year after 2, which itself probably whipped the team out. No way could they make a game as big as that was in such a small amount of time. Even 4 had like a 3 year gap

so Im guessing yes. It was rushed to hell

[Anonymous No.2067756]

If I remember the story right, there was basically a second team working on the game that started in the middle of the development cycle of PSII.

kind of makes sense, seeing how disjointed it is when compared to the second one.

[Anonymous No.2067770]

>>2067756

the space ship world reveal would have been cool if the series hadn't already established strong sci fi themes twice before

[Anonymous No.2067831]

[Anonymous No.2067865]

>>2067831
Odin was never referred to again in the series, was he?

[Anonymous No.2067878]

>>2067865
Probably had a reference in PSU like the other PS1 characters. The translators of that game just didn't give a fuck about previous translations so most refrences to the classic games got lost in translation.

[Anonymous No.2067902]

That's frustrating. it would have been interesting to see this universe given to a company that had some sort of solidarity to put together a coherent story.

[Anonymous No.2067925]

>>2067865
>>2067878

huh, funny that even the cat got more press than Odin did

of course Odin strikes me as a simple man. A man who doesn't need fame or fortune. A man who seeks not glory. No the only thing Odin needs is a cask of ale and an endless supply of skeletons to fuck up.

we all could learn a lesson or two

[Anonymous No.2067938]

it was intimated that Myau was the Old Man cat in the cave in PSIV.

Old fucking, smart car

[Anonymous No.2068001]

>>2067938

you're posting on your phone, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.2068147]

>>2053231
I like these.

I like these a lot.

I could see a traditional, turn based single player Phantasy Star revival with Sugimori's art.

(Would also mean they'd make loads of dosh cause more than a few Pokemon fans would hop aboard)

[Anonymous No.2068178]

>>2067352
>That fucking battle music that is just a two second loop

[Anonymous No.2068182]

>>2068178
At least it keeps changing to different songs during the battle, yeah?

[Anonymous No.2068326]

>>2067352
when i played it i had no idea what the icons did

looking now i can work it out, so not sure if the game was legitimately unclear or i was just stupid

[Anonymous No.2068350]

>>2068001
Guilty

[Anonymous No.2068789]

>>2068326
>looking now i can work it out, so not sure if the game was legitimately unclear or i was just stupid

it can be both

[Anonymous No.2069579]

>>2067865
Well, he was kind of a pussy, anyway. I recall all of his stats being worse than Alis' and only on par with the rest of the crew. All show and no go.

[Anonymous No.2069684]

>>2069579
Between the greatest esper of all time, the hero of Algo and a talking cat that may damn well be near immortal, the guy held his own.

[Anonymous No.2069704]

>>2069684

he probably settled down with some fair country lass and had like a million babies

[Anonymous No.2070239]

>>2069704
I always imagined Rudolf/Rutger Steiner (Rudo) was one of his descendants.

[Anonymous No.2070246]

Hey I've never played Phantasy Star and want to start. Should I just start from the first and work my way forward? Also, what is up with the 'online' games? Like they are remade for the gamecube and stuff, but there are singleplayer modes?

[Anonymous No.2070731]

>>2070246
Yeah, I mostly play GC Ep. 1 & 2 Plus offline these days, and there's plenty of quests and hunting/grinding you can do offline.

You can also play with up to 3 other people via split-screen, though no quests are available in this multi-player mode. It's still fun though. Or you could go head to head with a friend in Battle mode offline, or you could do offline time trials for various rare weapon prizes, too.

If you're willing to spend the cash for an actual copy, then you may as well go full-retard and also grab a GC Broadband Adapter and keyboard to play online. There are various guides which show how to easily do this on youtube, but it's pretty rare to find someone to play with, to be honest. When, you do though, it's generally a pretty good time, even when the other person is laughably bad at such a simple game.

[Anonymous No.2070807]

>>2070246
>Should I just start from the first and work my way forward?

you don't have too. You will miss a lot of easter eggs and nodds if you start with say 4 but by and large they're all self contained

[Anonymous No.2070834]

>>2070246
I'd sag play 1 and 2 then 4. If you start with 4 you might be put off by bad gameplay in the first two.

Give three a wide berth. Not worth trying.