/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2051718]

Why would you use any other Master than Fahl when leveling Peco? Also, Breath of Fire III thread.

[Anonymous No.2051726]

>yfw you discover Fahl is a pangolin and not a fat horse

[Anonymous No.2052342]

>>2051718
I use Peco as my skills dummy. In other words, I put him with different masters to obtain needed skills for my other characters. I don't really like playing as Peco.

[Anonymous No.2052486]

Doesn't Peco get the best use by blasting HP all the way for his breath attacks?

Which master was that again?

I seem to recall that Garr made a better hitter as a physical tank and Rei was the best for hitting otherwise

Ryu-Rei-Momo was so good I never used anyone else anyway, all hard hitters, Rei with string formation compensates Momo's lack of speed perfectly, both Ryu and Momo are awesome healers

I used Nina as a skill bunny if anyone

[Anonymous No.2052647]

don't use Peco

[Anonymous No.2052674]

It took me many years before I could play the game, but ever since I first say her in a magazine when I was a kid, I already knew Momo was waifu-tier.
Also I want to fuck a fairy.

[Anonymous No.2052712]

>>2052647
unless you want to play the shit out of the game. you can manipulate peco into anything you want since he starts at level one half way though the game.

[Anonymous No.2052739]

Peco used to creep me out as a kid. Ryu/Rei/Garr. Can't be assed to level that little piece of shit all the way from 1 either.

He still creeps me out...

[Anonymous No.2052746]

>>2052739
oh yean an onion is really scary

[Anonymous No.2052785]

More like Katt thread.

[Anonymous No.2052787]

>>2051718
Second worst game in the franchise after 1.

[Anonymous No.2052804]

Or Dragon Quarter. Or anything fucking else related thread, it does not matter much. What really matters is that you simply cannot escape.

[Anonymous No.2052879]

I think I should not use Katt as a weapon since I actually love her. It is not like she can ever get hurt but the new standards are standards.

[Anonymous No.2052895]

>Peco

Sorry, anon. I only use characters I like.

[Anonymous No.2052993]

The dragon statue that gives +9HP. Can't remember it's name.

[Anonymous No.2053102]

>>2052993
The Dragon Statue (Ladon) gives a penalty to HP: -6 HP, -6 AP, +2 Pwr, +2 Def, +2 Int, +1 Agl

>>2052486
That's Fahl. Just throws copious amounts of HP and Def at the character. Also, Peco was indisputably the strongest tank in the game and for power-hitting. He comes with a 50% reprisal rate, which means if you put him at the front of an attack formation, he has a 100% reprisal rate. With Fahl jacking his HP and Def up, along with his HP-regeneration every round, he ends up being pretty much invincible in every fight.

[Anonymous No.2053138]

Bunyan
HP+2
Power+2
Defense+1
AP-2
Intelligence-3

Mygas
AP+1
Intelligence+2
Power-1
Defense-1

Yggdrasil
AP+1
Defense+1
Intelligence+2
HP-1
Power-2
weak vs flame

D'lonzo
Power+1
Agility+1
HP-1
AP-2

Fahl
HP+4
Power+1
Defense+3
Agility-3
Intelligence-3

Durandal
Teaches Backhand.

Giotto
HP+4
AP+3
Power-1
Defense-1
Agility-1
Intelligence-2

Hondara
AP+1
Intelligence+1
Power-2
Holy prop UP

Emitai
AP+4
Intelligence+4
Power-2
Defense-2

Deis
AP+3
Power+1
Agility+1
Intelligence+3
HP-3
Defense-3

Hachio
HP+2
Power+2
Defense+1
AP-2
Agility-1
Intelligence-1

Ladon (Dragon Statue)
Power+2
Defense+2
Agility+1
Intelligence+2
HP-6
AP-6

Meryleep
Agility+2
HP-1
Power-1
Defense-1

I skipped the hide-and-seek kids for reasons that should be obvious

[Anonymous No.2053152]

>>2052342
Yeah he's potentially the best right after Ryu but for gods sakes he's a walking onion that goes "Pukiiiiii!"

I dont want something that cant interact through speech in an active party. For that matter im not terribly fond of momo either but damned if the game doesnt force you to use her 80% of the time due to her map special move.

[Anonymous No.2053156]

>>2052712
*1/3

[Anonymous No.2053179]

>>2053102
>The Dragon Statue (Ladon) gives a penalty to HP: -6 HP, -6 AP, +2 Pwr, +2 Def, +2 Int, +1 Agl
Oh wow what am I even doing.
I meant Giotto. Even then, his HP bonus is nowhere near +9.
This might just be a good excuse for another playthrough.

[Anonymous No.2053185]

>The duality between Ryu and Teepo is a recurring theme of the game. They are of the same species and the same apparent age, they both start at Level 1 and Rei found each of them under the same circumstances. Their sprites are even head swaps of one another.
>Their sprites are even head swaps of one another.
Holy shit, how have I never noticed this?

[Anonymous No.2053186]

>>2053185
>you'll never find out how Teepo crossed the ocean

Unless he's the asshole who put that crate blocking the teleporter

[Anonymous No.2053195]

>>2053186
Maybe he dragon lord'd across? Surely that nigger can fly if Kaiser can.

[Anonymous No.2053242]

>>2053138
Giotto was my main man for Ryu. Ryu is so strong that his minor stat losses don't really affect him, and with Ryu it's all about building that AP up to dragon-fuck monsters to oblivion.

If I do another playthrough I have to really invest in making Peco a beast. I know he can just be unstoppable if I train him correctly.

[Anonymous No.2053292]

>>2053152

>I'm not terribly fond of Momo

You talkin' shit 'bout mai waifu!?

jk, bro. Her accuracy is a pain in the ass that requires wasting an accessory slot to fix.

[Anonymous No.2053295]

>>2053242

In my last playthrough, I put a lot of focus into AGI, and ATP.

It was pretty damn hilarious.

[Anonymous No.2053393]

>>2053186
he was probably lured over by that cunt goddess and she had one of her robots block the route after he made it

she's manipulative and vile that way

[Anonymous No.2053396]

>>2053292
>Momo without the cute bunny rabbit nose

Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.2053397]

>>2053295
if you use the line formation you can make your entire party be as fast as Rei

This does not ever get old

[Anonymous No.2053407]

>>2053396

It was the best image I could find of her.

[Anonymous No.2053626]

Sometimes I wish Rei wasn't the best catperson from any of the BoF games, but then I just accept the reality of it.

[Anonymous No.2053632]

>>2053626
Doesn't this just beat all?

[Anonymous No.2053647]

>>2053626
He and Momo get together at the end of the game, right?

[Anonymous No.2053651]

>>2053647
I like to think so.

[Anonymous No.2053659]

Is there a way to use Teepo again? He was my favorite character.

[Anonymous No.2053665]

>>2053659
No. Once he's gone, he's gone.

[Anonymous No.2053669]

>>2053632
*Don't that just beat all?

[Anonymous No.2053682]

It's a shame that you lose Teepo and get Nina. They're both the attack mages of the game, but Teepo has some reasonable attack and defense too, whereas Nina keels over from a strong breeze.

[Anonymous No.2053686]

>>2053626
What about Lin.

Lin is kawaii

[Anonymous No.2053689]

>>2053686
Lin isn't retro and doesn't exist for the purposes of the board.

[Anonymous No.2053703]

>>2053292
>needing accuracy
>Not using shadow walk every turn
You serious nigga

[Anonymous No.2053717]

There's really no good reason to ever use Momo, Garr or Nina outside the scripted events for them. The God-tier party is Ryu, Peco and Rei.

Ryu because you can't not use him. Peco because he's the ultimate tank character. Rei because of his speed and the wanton superiority of heal items over healing spells.

[Anonymous No.2053721]

>>2053717
speaking of final boss, what blocks the Venom attack (random status changes)? Protectors, which are listed as specifically able to block status affects, don't seem to work.

[Anonymous No.2053732]

>>2053659
Legitimately? Nope.
The best way to keep him is by using a walk through walls code and prevent him (and Rei) from ever leaving the party, but, of course, that would break the game later on.
You can't even make him a member of a party that's not Ryu/Rei/Teepo, because the game crashes.

[Anonymous No.2053886]

>>2053703
This dude gets it.

Momo is the most versatile cast member behind Peco and Ryu. Garr, Rei, and Nina have too much stat specialization going on, and changing/undoing that takes forever (and generally isn't worth it, anyway).

[Anonymous No.2053942]

>>2053703

But 'nigga', how long must you use Momo throughout the game before you can give her Shadow Walk?

Checkmate, Atheists.

[Anonymous No.2053951]

>>2053942
Jump is available at the start of the game, no?

[Anonymous No.2053953]

>>2053717

I'm sorry I was too busy laughing at how pathetic the end game was with NO healing whatsoever by using ryu rei and momo to destroy everything before it became a threat.

In fact I thought BoF 3 was disappointing because of how easy the endgame is with ryu rei and momo.

>peco tank

lol

[Anonymous No.2053986]

Been playing Breath of Fire III for the first time. Anyone know what exactly the name of the regular boss battle theme is? Shit's catchy.

[Anonymous No.2054004]

>>2051718
It sucks but the game really wants you to use Ryu/Momo/Rei.

No other game has been so intrusive as to forcing my party like BoF3. Normally its a non-issue, since Momo and Rei are usually solid picks, but after replaying it and wanting to use Peco and Rei, you realize how fucking shitty it is, especially the majority of the second half of the game.

An occasional swap to Garr or whatever is forgivable, but still shitty. Literally being forced to use Momo wherever there is a computer present is downright disgusting. They may as well have just made Momo premenant.

[Anonymous No.2054008]

>>2053986
I think it's called either "Everyday Battle" or "Battle in the Coming Days."

It's totally hype as all hell though. It makes things feel pretty energetic when you are about to kick some major ass.

A minor disappointment is that the second boss track, Donden, isn't used nearly enough. It should have shifted to using Donden more at the halfway mark, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLs27iXEdqY

[Anonymous No.2054017]

>>2054008
Ah, it was Everyday Battle that I was looking for. Thanks.

I'd seen the name in a list of songs before but it struck me as a name that would be more fitting for a normal battle than a boss one.

[Anonymous No.2054025]

>>2054017
The majority of the names are made up. The vast majority of the soundtrack has never been released outside of a 20-something track OST that came out in Japan when the game was still new.

[Anonymous No.2054043]

>>2053953
>not liking BoF 3

/v/ pls go

[Anonymous No.2054061]

>>2054043

It might be Kattfag.

He can't control himself when he sees a BoF3 thread. His autism takes over and he has to shitpost.

[Anonymous No.2054081]

>>2053717

My last playthrough I generally had Ryu, Nina and either Rei or Peco when I had the option. I usually end up using characters that I like, even if they're not the best stat-wise.

[Anonymous No.2054210]

>>2054043

BoF 3 is my favorite entry in the series, actually.

But compared to the challenge throughout the majority of the game, the end game is disappointing.

>>2054061

If I was kattfag I think my post would more clearly show my loose hold on reality.

[Anonymous No.2054313]

>>2054025
I remember being disappointed that the only soundtrack version of Everyday Battle was like a version with a whole bunch of battle cries in it.

Speaking of which, I have no idea what half of them are supposed to be saying... like Rei's Pilfer soundclip

[Anonymous No.2054368]

>>2053626
Take your gay furry fetishes and your memespouting edgeman elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.2054384]

>>2054368
Who also cannot control himself.

[Anonymous No.2054569]

>>2054368

gb2/v/

[Anonymous No.2054581]

>>2054569
Except those words describe the furball as it is.

Katt lacking those atrocities is what currently positively contributes to her being the best character.

[Anonymous No.2054596]

>>2054581

Dude, fuck off. This isn't even funny. It's unfunny shit posting.

[Anonymous No.2054604]

>>2054596
Truth isn't funny as you pointed out.

Katt shits on your precious character in terms of everything worthwhile and we can debate this right fucking now without any words which seem to be buzzwords to you even when are used in place.

[Anonymous No.2054605]

>>2054604
>>2054581
>>2054368

Why must you shit up every Breath of Fire thread? You want to discuss Katt? Go make a thread about BoF2.

[Anonymous No.2054607]

>>2054605
Because you and your kind type like a bunch of cretins who lusts for trouble.

[Anonymous No.2054616]

>>2054607

You need to be banned. All you do is shitpost.

[Anonymous No.2054623]

I know this is a BoF3 thread, but I just wanted to say I'm paying BoF2 on GBA for the first time and holy fuck this horribad translation but amazing pretty much everything else. Hopefully I can emulate BoF3 on my phone alright.

[Anonymous No.2054635]

>>2054623

GBA port is trash because of the washed out color palate.

If you must play BoF2, play it with the re-translation patch.

Also: This /is/ a BoF3 thread, so please try to stay on topic and don't bait the Kattfag.

[Anonymous No.2054636]

>>2054616
Haha, this is not your hugbox
>>>/reddit/ and don't look back

>>2054623
I hope the character who can solo the game is in the party or you're a casual.

>horribad translation
At least the speech isn't dumb and redundant like the one from 3 later in the game.

[Anonymous No.2054639]

>>2054623
>GBA version

I prefer the SNES version for the better sound and higher resolution but...if you really want to play the GBA version, be sure to use this patch:
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/902/

[Anonymous No.2054645]

>>2054605
In fact, if you don't see where the memespouting edgeman can come from, you clearly did not play the game and are shitposting.

Like Rei has never been annoying with his >>2053632 line and like he has never been that overly possessed by the idea of revenge which happened to affect even his good friend Ryu whom Rei fought for.

[Anonymous No.2054650]

>>2054645

You don't even know what 'memespouting' means.

Fuck off. Go make a BoF2 thread.

In fact, I'll make one for you, you can shit it up all you want.

[Anonymous No.2054654]

>>2054645
>>2054650


Here >>2054651

Now please let us discuss BoF3 in peace.

[Anonymous No.2054656]

>>2054650
I am right in my post. And that's what causes you to spout "Fuck off" or your damage control in other words.

Memes can be annoying too, not everyone is one of the kind. Learn this.

[Anonymous No.2054657]

>>2054635
So I'm supposed to make an entire different thread to simply mention I'm enjoying BoF..? Nah. Thanks though.

>>2054636
I have no idea which character that is, as it's my first time, but I'm currently running Ryu/Nina/Katt/Rand

>>2054639
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.2054662]

>>2054656

Rei is not 'memespouting' you retard. Fuck off. Stop shitting up the thread.

[Anonymous No.2054665]

>>2054657
>>2054656
>>2054645
>>2054639
>>2054636
>>2054623
>>2054607
>>2054604
>>2054581
>>2054368

GO HERE AND LEAVE THIS THREAD

A BOF2 THREAD JUST FOR YOU SHITPOSTING RETARDS

>>2054651

[Anonymous No.2054668]

>>2054657
I don't know, take a wild guess.

[Anonymous No.2054673]

>>2054665
Whoa. Not the shitposting guy. I just wanted to talk about my love for the series. Guess it's back to lurking so I can watch sperglords like yourself get angry over posts on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.2054675]

>>2054673

>off-topic posts

>not shitposting

Neo-/v/ everyone.

[Anonymous No.2054681]

>>2054662
He is excessively using the phrase to the point of annoying as sounds to legit person. A lot of your kind repeat after him for the sole point of humor. You are the majority who find it fun. Let us pray it is translation one and not original design of "humor" for the masses.

No need to get mad, Aussies. I hate you so much for your attitude from the very first thread and I won't leave this for some time.

[Anonymous No.2054687]

>>2054675
Fuck off, redditor.

[Anonymous No.2054692]

every.single.BOF.thread

[Anonymous No.2054693]

>>2054687

You fuck off, Neo-/v/.

>>2054681

I'm not Australian, dude.

[Anonymous No.2054694]

>>2054675
>Super Mario Bros Thread
>Someone talks about Super Mario Bros 2
>Conversations continue

>90's JRPG #1 thread
>Someone mentions the sequel
>FAGGOT GET YOUR OWN THREAD YOU SHIT-POSTING OFF-TOPIC PIECE OF FILTH

Eat at least an entire wall of dicks.

[Anonymous No.2054697]

>>2054692

For over a year now, there hasn't been a single Breath of Fire thread that doesn't dissolve into shitposting and flamewars because some Autistic sperglord from Eastern Europe who has to turn every single thread into a discussion about Katt.

[Anonymous No.2054701]

>>2054694

It's a thread for a single game in the series, not the series itself. I know you Neo-/v/tards love to be shitposters, but please keep it in /v/. Don't bring it to /vr/.

[Anonymous No.2054705]

>>2054697
Really, brother? I don't remember last time when I was turning a thread into a Katt thread, it was Dragon Quarter.

[Anonymous No.2054707]

>>2054313
ITADAKI!~

Though with the spell names it's anyone's guess.

CHIZZAGGA!

[Anonymous No.2054709]

>>2054705

I have no idea what you're saying. Your English is atrocious.

[Anonymous No.2054714]

>>2054709
>>2054707
Now this is /jrpgg/

[Anonymous No.2054719]

>>2054714
Sorry brah >>2054707 you are not a one.

[Anonymous No.2054723]

>>2054313
>>2054707

Kai Shiden from Mobile Suit Gundam says the very same phrase as Rei when he uses Pilfer.

He'll say it often in Gundam vs Gundam: Next.

I think it's something like 'Got you now!' in English. But I could be off. I think it's like a Japanese 'Cheeki Breeki'. Like 'Checkmate!' or something. I've only seen it translated in the ZeonicFront subs for MS Gundam TV series, and can't recall exactly where he said it to check.

[Anonymous No.2054734]

>>2054723
I think for most of the spell names they're just japanese names of the spells themselves.

With notable exceptions, like MINDO SWORD

The little bit of Engrish is always appreciated.

[Anonymous No.2054752]

>>2054734

Yeah, I think for the most part. Simoon is definitely 'SIMOON!' when cast. Momo uses some strange phrases when she casts spells, though.

Upon further investigation, he's saying something like 'Thanks for... this!' Or 'I'll be taking that!'

Could be a dialect thing.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%81%84%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8F

[Anonymous No.2054756]

>>2054752

http://www.japaneseverbconjugator.com/VerbDetails.asp?txtVerb=itadaku

Better link. I think it's itadake. Informal way of saying 'Thanks for this!'

[Anonymous No.2054778]

>>2054756
Well, after tens of years I guess that mystery is solved for me.

[Anonymous No.2054789]

>>2054639
There's also a very small text fix for BoF1 GBA. Too bad it never got ported. It's no retranslation but it does make things a tiny bit more consistent.

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1710/

[Anonymous No.2054793]

>>2054789

BoF1's translation was no prize, but it was definitely better than 2's localization.

It would be nice to see 1 get a re-trans like 2 received.

[Anonymous No.2054797]

>>2054793
The game must be redeemable enought to have fans in the first place.

[Anonymous No.2054872]

A good move on the part of the localizers to turn that dolphin into an angry, drunk Aussie. Many laughs were had.

[Anonymous No.2054935]

>>2054872
He had a kansai accent in the original, if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.2054960]

>>2054623
Unlike Square-Enix and their Final Fantasy ports, Capcom didn't see the GBA ports as an opportunity to touch up the translations for BoF I and II. Granted, the first game's translation is serviceable, if still a bit bland, but they really should have retranslated BoF II when they had the chance to do so.

>>2054872
>>2054935
>"For those players that do not speak Australian we have provided an English translation of the previous scene."
Did the Japanese original have the whole "view scene again in different dialect" thing, or was that something the localizers added?

[Anonymous No.2054985]

>>2054756
Itadaki, but yeah. It's one of those things that can be translated in a lot of different ways, depending on the situation, and "Thanks for this!" is a pretty good one for pilfering. You would generally use it to show gratitude before eating, as "Itadakimasu."

[Anonymous No.2054992]

>>2054985

Itadake, unless you can provide some information otherwise. Because itadaki doesn't address anybody, but itadake addresses another person.

[Anonymous No.2054993]

>>2054992
Doesn't have to address anyone specifically, and he's saying "Itadaki!" It's a VERY common phrase in Japanese games.

[Anonymous No.2055014]

>>2054992
>>2054993

It's the inflection on the first and third syllables that determines the meaning of the phrase more than anything else.

'eeee-tada-kiii'

It's probably a dialect, or an accent that's lost on non-native Japanese speakers, but probably something to do with his being a rogue/thief-like character, and just all around thug personality.

Rei's probably the type that would say 'aniki' a lot.

[Anonymous No.2056148]

>>2053292
>>2052674
>finding out Momo is from the grassrunner clan like pic related

[Anonymous No.2056187]

>>2053626
Have the Reality

[Anonymous No.2059321]

>>2053682
I liked making Ryu my mage but I like having mage main characters and it sucks I couldn't do it in more games.

[Anonymous No.2059393]

>>2055014
Rei is really more the type who would get called aniki a lot