/vr/ - Retro Games

[asshat No.2030809]

sup /vr/? I am challenging you all to to explore the dungeons of telengard with me. We should all see who can make the strongest character. It's a simple D&D inspired rpg where you play a magical warrior on a quest to get as rich as possible. Really the only point of the game is to level up your character, we should see which one of us is the best. If you guys want to play against me I will give you some tips.

Try to roll your stats so all of them are at least double digits and above 12 if possible. Even charisma cause it keeps those fucking hobbits from stealing from you

name your character sv"anon" or else the game will delete your saves after you load them unless you want to play hardcore character.

The game has a timed mechanic so you have 5 seconds to make a decision or else it thinks you choose to do nothing.

Bring up inventory with H, cast spells outside of battle with C.

If you find an item that you already have with a lower + do not pick it up or it will replace your better one.

The game is freeware you can get from the authors website http://aquest.com/telen.htm
or play in browser http://www.classicdosgames.com/game/Telengard.html

The graphics are quiet nice apart from the color palette, the demons look pretty bad ass actually? Good luck treasure hunting should you choose to partake on this quest

Does anyone know if you can switch CGA palletes on dosbox?

[Anonymous No.2030814]

not retro

[asshat No.2030817]

sir asshat is begining his journey, I rolled some pretty good stats this should be a good one :)

[asshat No.2030820]

>>2030814
are you on fucking drugs? This is one of the earliest RPGs, the first version came out before the famicom was even released.

[asshat No.2030875]

you gotta stay close to an inn until you get a few levels, I got this dope ass +4 sword now, I had a +1 elven cloak but a fuckin cocksucker hobbit stole it. I'm level 4 now though think I am going to start venturing out to find some serious gear.

Also another tip, ALWAYS give lots of gold at altars, do not be filthy pagan trash. You will be rewarded, on a previous character I had before I knew about the save trick a dragon gave me a +5 sword after I gave 2000 gold.

[Anonymous No.2030882]

>>2030814
Game came out in '82, making it older than you, kiddo.

Probably going to play a little after I get done running RE1, thanks to OP here.

[asshat No.2030921]

now I have some decent gear going on, ring of regen heals every step you take 2 for me because it's +2. Will any other warriors test the dungeon?

[Anonymous No.2031021]

wow this looks really impressive for 1982

[asshat No.2031046]

>>2031021
this is the 1985 ibm dos port remake, the 1982 was text only.

[Anonymous No.2031079]

>>2030809
awesome, definitely gonna try this out

[Anonymous No.2031242]

I had the C64 version. It was in BASIC so I edited it to get higher stats.

[asshat No.2031245]

I just went on the most epic crusade I got teleported to somewhere random, found a push code box and figured out the code and got like 30k, found my way up to the next level, battled my way to an inn and banked that shit. Sir Asshat is getting pretty beefy now.

[Anonymous No.2031272]

>>2030809
I'm too exhausted for this kind of game right now, but tomorrow I will give it a try. Sounds interesting, so thanks for sharing OP.

[Anonymous No.2031286]

>Does anyone know if you can switch CGA palletes on dosbox?
In dosbox.conf you can set the machine type to CGA_mono.

[Anonymous No.2031291]

>>2031286
oh god that color palette is even worse.

>>2031245
Continue on brave asshat

[asshat No.2031298]

>>2031286
if you actually want to play be sure to put sv in front of your name or else it will delete your save file. Thanks I might try that mono out looks like the old apple 2 monitor, is there anyway to force it to palette 0 like in pic related?

[Anonymous No.2031370]

>>2031291
There's apparently a way to cycle different palettes like amber or grey but I can't get it to work.
There's also a newer remake for Windows.
http://buildingworlds.com/telengard/

[asshat No.2031392]

>>2031370
that's just a port of the commodore 64 version to windows. How do you swap the palettes maybe it will work if you have machine = cga in your cfg.

[Anonymous No.2031428]

>>2031392
Isn't the C64 technically more advanced than CGA?

[asshat No.2031456]

>>2031428
yeah but the monsters have way better sprites in the cga mode.

Holy shit though even better crusade 60000! I made it back to the inn with that too.

[asshat No.2031736]

>>2031456
sir asshat is total beefcake now with 3 stats maxed out I raised them on a throne I found, and total swag gear. This is how much I have saved up too.

[asshat No.2031738]

sir asshat is total beefcake now with 3 stats maxed out I raised them on a throne I found, and total swag gear. This is how much I have saved up too.

[Anonymous No.2031786]

>>2030882
It's even older than that. It started in 1976/77 as a game for mainframe computers named DND, itself a derivate of another computer game also named dnd. The commercial home computer ports were renamed Telengard to avoid lawsuits with TSR and Mattel who held the Dungeons and Dragons license at the time.

[Anonymous No.2032148]

anyone getting in on this?

[Anonymous No.2032207]

>>2032148
Yes. I think I got the hang of it and may start delving deeper into the dungeon.

[asshat No.2032492]

>>2032207
nice, welcome aboard. Be sure to use your protection from evil spells to keep those asshole wraiths, vampires and specters from draining your xp.

[Anonymous No.2032501]

>>2030809

Thanks for sharing OP, this is a nice thread.

[Anonymous No.2032589]

>>2030875
Are you sure that wasn't just a random encounter after that? I only get blessings when I donate even for tens of thousands.

[asshat No.2032636]

>>2032589
it must have been it just seemed like odd timing.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.2032925]

Woah, thanks for making this thread.

I always thought this game looked neat, but couldn't really find the motivation to play it.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.2033023]

>>2032492
Ooh, thanks for the tip.

>enemies that can permanently lower your max HP

RPG's really didn't fuck around back then.

[Anonymous No.2033083]

>>2033023
I'm not sure how close it follows D&D rules but you could always afford to lose some XP if you manage to raise your base stats so you can get bigger level up bonuses when you do level again. I did that on sir asshat but I'm not sure if his HP is higher now or not because I wasn't paying close enough attention.

[asshat No.2033232]

back home from work, just questin around, burnin some vamps.

[Anonymous No.2033238]

>>2032925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

[asshat No.2033261]

holy shit, I just took a teleporter cube into some deep part of the dungeon with like level 15-20 baddies, I beat the shit out of a bunch of them, found some +7 boots, ran out of mana then ran into a level 17 dragon! I managed to evade and used a rescue scroll to peace the fuck out and the dragon had followed me back to the INN!!! I evaded again and snuck my way over to the next inn one screen over where I am waiting in safety for that dragon to go away.

Scrolls are very handy but you loose all the gold you are carrying.

[Anonymous No.2034023]

>>2033023
DnD kept permanent level drain into modern time.
At least Telengard gives you a way to avoid it. In Wizardry it was a fate worse than death.

[Anonymous No.2034568]

>>2034023
There were also spells to deal with those kinds of "problems". :-)

Sorry for the bad formatting, this is a straight copy & paste from the D&D Rules Cyclopedia (TSR, 1991). The spell in question is a 7th level clerical spell. Was probably published in earlier books such as D&D Companion or Masters sets (part of the "Basic D&D" line during the 80's) and AD&D 1st edition (back when it was just called Advanced Dungeons & Dragons, because there was no 2nd edition yet). Maybe even one of the supplements for 1974 edition also? (never played with those rules so can't be sure...)

--------------------
Restore*
Range: Touch
Duration: Permanent
Effect: Restores 1 level lost to energy drain

This spell restores one full level of energy (ex-
perience) to any victim who has lost a level be-
cause of energy drain (for instance, from a
vampire's attack). It does not restore more than
one level, nor does it add a level if no level has
been lost. Furthermore, the cleric casting this
spell loses one level of experience, as if struck by
a wight when the spell is cast; however, the cler-
ic's loss is not permanent, and the cleric need on-
ly rest for 2dl0 (2-20) days to regain the lost
experience.
The reverse of this spell, life drain, drains one
level of experience from the victim touched, just
like the touch of a wight or wraith. Casting the
reversed spell causes no experience level loss to
the cleric, nor does it require any rest afterward,
but it is a Chaotic act, avoided by Lawful clerics.
--------------------

Btw, the asterix after the spell name means it can be "reversed" (you have to learn it backwards though), as in to inflict harm rather than heal.

Not everything in those old editions was recoverable though. In AD&D you had the concept of System Shock and Resurrection Survival rolls, so it wasn't a given your PC would be brought back to life even if you found a high-level cleric willing to cast the spell. Then there was the permanent CON loss...

[Anonymous No.2034596]

I'm a bit bothered by the size. Each level is 200x200 and there's 50 of it.
I considered mapping it out but a normal sheet can only fit 40x60 so you'd need 20 of them for just one level and it would take endlessly to map out since you can only see one square into each direction. Finding your position on the map after a teleport would also take forever without coordinates and the limited landmarks.

[Anonymous No.2034638]

Man, the guy who made this is dead now
That's sorta depressing

[Anonymous No.2034662]

>>2034638
Are you willing to take his place?

[Asshat No.2034667]

>>2034596
Making a map would be so daunting. I don't think you're going to be seeing anything past floor 5 until you have some decent levels. I think you would have to put tons of hours in to get that deep.

>>2034638
Play it in his memory, it's still a really enjoyable game, having a shitload of a gold trying to find your way back to an INN is a lot of fun.


Guys can we figure out what the fountains do? What effect does each water have so far I have seen green, red, clear, white and black. I never drink because I am scared of the effects

[Anonymous No.2034684]

>>2034667
You can get healed or harmed. Additionally you can get drunk which randomizes your movement but not combat or other commands.
I believe it's a random effect with no relation to the color.

[Asshat No.2034687]

>>2034684
hahah I thought the red was like blood or something and I just stayed the fuck away

[Anonymous No.2034692]

>>2034684
>>2034687
The fountain color effects are random like the dungeons but once you discover their key for your dungeon they should be consistent throughout.

[Anonymous No.2034693]

>>2034684
Two more effects I just discovered: Gain XP and lose all your items.

[Anonymous No.2034706]

>>2034692
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/telengard/tglist.txt
6701 GOSUB17000:PRINT"YOU HAVE FOUND A FOUNTAIN"
6702 PRINT"WITH RUNNING "MID$("WHITEGREENCLEARRED BLACK",C*5-4,5)" WATER"
6705 PRINT"<RET> TO DRINK SOME:";:GOSUB16000:IFC$=CHR$(13)THEN6715
6710 GOSUB17000:GOTO8000
6715 GOSUB17000:IFRND(1)>.6THEN6750
6717 IFRND(1)>1-C*.15THEN6730
6720 PRINT"YOU FEEL BETTER":GOSUB19000:I=INT(RND(1)*3*CZ+1)
6725 PRINT"YOU HEAL"I"POINTS":CH=CH+I:IFCH>HPTHENCH=HP
6727 GOSUB20260:GOSUB17500:GOTO8000
6730 IFRND(1)>.15*CTHEN6745
6735 PRINT"IT'S POISON!!!":I=INT(RND(1)*3*CZ+1):PRINT"YOU LOSE"I"HIT POINTS"
6740 CH=CH-I:GOSUB20260:IFCH<1THEN9000
6742 GOSUB17500:GOTO8000
6745 GOSUB20100:GOSUB20300:GOSUB17500:GOTO8000
6750 IFRND(1)>.4THENPRINT"YOU FEEL REFRESHED!":GOSUB17500:GOTO8000
6752 IFRND(1)>.5THEN6780
6755 IFRND(1)>.5THEN6770
6760 PRINT"MAGICAL POWER SURGES THROUGH YOUR BODY":CS=CS+INT(RND(1)*4*CZ+1)
6765 PRINT"YOU NOW HAVE"CS" SPELLS":GOSUB20250:GOSUB17500:GOTO8000
6770 PRINT"YOU HAVE BEEN DISPOSESSED!!":FORI=1TO10:I(I)=0:NEXT:GOSUB19000
6775 GOSUB17500:PRINT"・:GOSUB20300:GOSUB15000:GOSUB30025:GOTO8000
6780 PRINT"YOU FEEL REFRESHED!":GOSUB17500:PRINT"ACTUALLY YOU'RE DRUNK!!"
6785 IFSF(11)<0THENSF(11)=0
6786 SF(11)=SF(11)+INT(RND(1)*16+1):GOSUB15000:GOSUB17000:GOTO8000
6800 GOSUB16600:PRINT"丿";:AN=1:AR=5

[Anonymous No.2034750]

>>2034638
Well so are Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson...
And yet, "The game must go on!", as would say Gary Jackson (of Knights of the Dinner Table comic).
Heck, JRR Tolkien, RE Howard, and many others are dead for a long time now but people still appreciate and enjoy their works.

[Anonymous No.2035271]

So what's actually the point of this game? Is there an ending?

[asshat No.2035530]

>>2035271
nope, it's 1982 remember this is before video game stories were really a thing. Its more like a who can get the high score arcade game. A sequel adding more modern mechanics would have been awesome in like 89.

[asshat No.2035540]

>>2035271
oh yeah mad jelly of that gear hahaha, tell me how you got it?

Sorry guys I'm not really feeling well tonight so no updates on the quest.

[Anonymous No.2036018]

>>2035540
I walked into a teleport trap and ended up on a different dungeon level, with level 50-ish monsters. I ran into a high-level troll, escaped, found a +17 ring of protection and +25 shield on the same tile, took another step, got approached by a friendly dragon which gave me a +5 ring of protection, then I realized "oh man I would REALLY hate to die right now, better quit while I'm ahead", used a return scroll to escape and save my game.

[Anonymous No.2036041]

After putting a few hours into this game, here are some things I've noted:

-The most evil and dangerous monster in the game isn't a vampire, ghoul, or even the dreaded dragon; it's motherfucking elves and hobbits.
-Altars are annoying money pits you're better off avoiding.
-Use the Light spell to see staircases and pits on adjacent tiles.
-Don't bother trying to map it out. Each floor is 200 by 200 tiles, and there are 50 floors. That's two million rooms!

[asshat No.2036052]

>>2036018
nice I know what I am going to try and do tomorrow!

>>2036041
holy shit man I didn't know what light did so I didnt use it thank you so much for that information very helpful. I have a tip for you though, raise your charisma and elves will always think you are sexy and heal you to full strength instead of jacking your gear. Fuck hobbits though, those cocksuckers can perish in flame.

[Anonymous No.2036203]

>>2036041
I always try to keep (Continual) Light, Levitate and Protection from Evil up.
I got tons of Strength Potions so I gulp them when I'm on lower levels.
Detect Traps is useful on low levels where the traps could kill you.
I'm not sure how invisibility works. It may reduce the chance of enemy surprise or increase your chances to flee.
Fear probably shifts battles into your favor but it's expensive to keep it up.
Passwall seems pointless unless your are trapped somewhere. Astral Walk seems to be the same with a prolonged effect.
Teleport is incredibly useful to get up and down fast. You can go up to level floors so with just four castings you're can go from top to bottom and vice versa without losing your loot.
Time Stop doesn't cancel all encounter and I tend to survive on evasion alone anyway.
Raise Dead may be useful as a fail safe for some puzzles but otherwise it's too expensive to kee up.
Word of Recall costs you all your items so it's worse than scrolls of rescue in my eyes.
Restoration is a strong healing spell when your ring of regeneration doesn't cut it.
Of the combat spells I mainly use Turn Undead because it's cheap.

You can save with F4 even in the dungeon and kill yourself with Q.
I think I broke the game by solving one of the button puzzles on level 50. At least I can't progress past level 15.

[Anonymous No.2036798]

>>2035530
If I had the source code I'd add the ability to record your high scores (characters with sv in the name would be ineligible, obviously). Maybe even have Nethack-style eulogies where it lists all your major accomplishments.

[Anonymous No.2036815]

>>2036798
The source code for the IBM port is lost but the previous versions were in plain BASIC.
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/telengard/tglist.txt

[asshat No.2036929]

>>2036815
/vr/ should make its own sequel

[Anonymous No.2037080]

>>2035530
Wizardry and Ultima 1 had a story with final boss in 1981.
I haven't played it myself but apparently the PLATO dnd game from the mid-70s was winnable since you needed to retrieve two items.

[Anonymous No.2037089]

>>2037080
he said they weren't really a thing
not that they didn't exist

[Anonymous No.2037295]

>>2036203
Apparently it was just that the game switched to scientific notification once the numbers exceed millions.
By now I have pretty much beaten the game. Only traps, dragon breath and one odd lvl 255 fighter are still able to hurt me.
The instant death spells come in handy against enemies with quadruple or quintuple digit HP. Sleep in particular is cheap and effective.

[Anonymous No.2037395]

>>2037080
is there an ibm dos version of dnd? that looks cool I love the vector graphics so clean and crisp.

[asshat No.2037401]

>>2037295
comgrats dude, I'm just going to crown you king of telengard right now. stats maxed out, the best gear. I don't think any of us can catch up to you now. Thanks for playing though dude, I may have to dig up another simple dos game and we can do this all again :)