/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2019407]

After years of chilling in the backlog, I finally around to playing this game. I'm six hours in and having a lot of fun with it. Couple questions though: Did I make a mistake my playing the PS1 remake over the SCD original? And should I play the SCD or PS1 release of Lunar 2?

[Anonymous No.2019440]

The remakes are arguably better / more polished.

You would also have to deal with an infuriating random encounter rate in the sega CD originals.

However both versions of each are worth playing, and the CD version of lunar 1 has an entirely different final dungeon, that makes it worth the play alone.

[Anonymous No.2019458]

>>2019407
Play both. They have some differences, so it'll be fresh for you.
Doesn't matter which version you play first.
The Sega CD version has way better battle music.

[Anonymous No.2019463]

>>2019440
>>2019458
Thanks for the info. I'll just play the PS1 version of 2 to keep things consistent since I'm in the middle of the PS1 version of 1.

[Anonymous No.2019465]

Nah, you're good. Both versions are great, really.
I'd just go with the PS1 version for consistency.

[Anonymous No.2020969]

sega cd version is harder, so made the battles feel more worthwhile imo, though if you have problems with graphics the sega cd one may not appeal to you. Personally loved the last boss in the 2nd one on SCD; felt like the ps1 version didn't do it justice.

[Anonymous No.2021016]

>>2020969
This is wrong. The Playstation version is harder.

Lunar 1 and 2 aren't the same game.

[Anonymous No.2021035]

>>2019407
no
yes

All of them are pretty good. I think Lunar 2 on the Sega CD is the best of the bunch, followed by Lunar 1 on the Playstation.

In terms of difficulty Lunar 1 PSX > Lunar 2 SCD > Lunar 2 PSX > Lunar 1 SCD.

[Anonymous No.2021385]

>>2019407
Why can't Japan make charming classic games like Lunar anymore? Why cant they make good jrpgs anymore? Why is japan so shit now?

[Anonymous No.2021394]

>>2021385
Someone decided that people don't want to play RPGs anymore, so we don't get AAA RPGs anymore. And when we do, they suck. There's still decent strategy RPGs and handheld RPGs, though. They won't look as good as Lunar 2, because modern anime style sucks (well, even the Playstation versions look ugly, the SCD games came out right before the fugly 90s took over)

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>>2021394

[Anonymous No.2021416]

>>2019407

Actually the PS1 version is my favorite.

Also its a relatively short game. But I had just come off of playing Legend of Dragoon and Dragon Warrior 7 when I picked this up so it felt super short in comparison.

[Anonymous No.2021417]

>>2021397
Lunar always had beautiful art and the best ads.

[Anonymous No.2021419]

>>2021394
Thats true there are still some good handheld jrpgs. Too bad about Lunar DS being absolute horse shit.

[Anonymous No.2021429]

>Luna was originally going to be a brunette.
I like blue haired waifu better.

[Anonymous No.2021435]

Also Lucia was going to be blonde. I love looking at the beta character designs.

[Anonymous No.2021513]

>>2021435
Uh...is this artist the Evangelion guy?

[Anonymous No.2021532]

>>2021513
Nope, but I can see why'd you think that after you pointed it out.

[Anonymous No.2021572]

Too bad we never got the Saturn version of Mahou Gakuen Lunar (not surprisingly, though, the Saturn had a fuckton of great JRPGs we never got in the west).

Apparently, it uses Eternal Blue's system.

http://www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-game,,T-27902G,,Mahou-Gakuen-Lunar-JPN.html

The anime and manga are available in english, though.

[Anonymous No.2023673]

>>2021572
Is the Game Gear version worth playing? I was thinking about playing through it after I finish Lunar 1 and 2.

[Anonymous No.2023936]

Do u guys know how the PSP remake compares?
I just bought it last night for my vita and I'm enjoying it so far, but the voices in that hero boss battle flashback part in the beginning were pretty awful.
The songs all seem to be remade from Japanese too unfortunately :(

[Anonymous No.2023946]

>>2023936
Its ok. The load times seem to be really long and it is very easy (but so is the Sega CD original). The new sprites aren't bad, but they are radically different from the look of the rest of the series. You could do worse.

[Anonymous No.2023996]

>>2023936
It's worse than the SCD and PS1 versions, but way better than GBA.

[Anonymous No.2024003]

Dumping art. Toshiyuki Kubooka shame he has only done Idolmaster recently.

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[Anonymous No.2024013]

loli ruby is cute.

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[Anonymous No.2024021]

beta Lunar 2 concepts.

[Anonymous No.2024024]

Even though I only discovered it about 2 years ago, Lunar 2 has weaseled its way up to the top of my favorites JRPGs. Everything about it just clicks. Part of the reason I decided to pick up a Sega CD, actually (that and wanting to get into Genesis stuff, I'd only played it casually up this point).

It does have "that part" though. Ghaleon's tower is very annoying. And you have to go back in the post-game.

[Anonymous No.2024025]

Ramus is a pimp.

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[Anonymous No.2024039]

Leo was more furry.

[Anonymous No.2024049]

centaur waifu.

[Anonymous No.2024056]

>>2024024
I always preferred Lunar 2 possibly because I played it first.

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[Anonymous No.2024075]

Does the subtle style change from the original art to the playstation art bother anyone else? There isn't really a better way of describing it than the playstation games "look like evangelion". I don't really care for it.

[Anonymous No.2024076]

>>2024059
bigger ver.

[Anonymous No.2024086]

>>2024075
Doesn't really bother me. I do like the older style more. The art just changed with what was popular at the time.

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[Anonymous No.2024093]

>>2023946
Hmm okay thanks, I think I'll stick with it then. I did notice that takes a couple seconds going into houses and changing rooms and such. I found it a little annoying at first, but thankfully it's nothing like FFVI for PS (guess VI will have to wait :/ )
It does seem a little easy too. Maybe I can run past some of these enemies and continue with the story without being under leveled? (Earlier this bearded man kept insisting I should allow him to help me, but I told him "I got this" and 4 or five battles later, when I crushed all my enemies, he didn't even praise me!)

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[Anonymous No.2024104]

>>2024093
The original Lunar (which not all that many people have played because it is on a niche (albeit infamous) CD peripheral) is ridiculously easy. Lunar 2 is about middling in difficulty. Most people with complaints about the difficulty come from the Playstation version of 1, which is filled with one hit KO attacks and bosses that fully scale with level. I prefer that myself, but there's nothing inherently wrong or weird about the remake being easy given the source.

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[Anonymous No.2024113]

>>2023996
Oh wow, I didn't even know they made a GBA version.
It seems like GBA has some decent versions of a lot of games but can never keep up audio wise.

[Anonymous No.2024114]

I always like when they draw the items from games.

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[Anonymous No.2024121]

thats all for now.

[Anonymous No.2024127]

Evil Sorceress Queens are EXACTLY my kind of thing, and easily my favorite thing about Lunar 1 (which I don't think is half as good as 2). She's barely in the Sega CD version, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.2024161]

>>2024127
dat ass. lunar has the best fan service.

[Anonymous No.2024183]

Shouldn't the psp version be the best one ?

[Anonymous No.2024198]

>>2024183
....no? When is a portable version of anything ever the best?

Its ok, but it is a ground up remake that is really slow, has long load times, and overproduced music (you can't really tell the difference if you are using the speakers though).

[Anonymous No.2024218]

>>2024198
>....no? When is a portable version of anything ever the best?

Do you really want a list ?

Most old FF and dragon quest games for example.

[Anonymous No.2024220]

>>2024104
I actually had a Sega CD as a kid, I just didn't really know about this, I guess? I don't really know what my excuse is, maybe I didn't read GamePro that month, who knows. Luckily it came with Snatcher, but I wish I would've had some of these RPGs back then, cause I think I would've loved them.
I'm normally bothered by high encounter rates or the need to grind more than the actual difficulty, but I could see how this would be too easy for some. (I've been using the auto battle mode fairly often)

[Anonymous No.2024227]

>>2024218
I'd argue with that, sure. Best versions of FF1 and 2 are on the Playstation. FF4 on GBA is bugged and the active battle system doesn't work right. FF6 on GBA has scaled down graphics and the music sounds like garbage coming out of a GBA speaker. That leaves you with FFV, which I guess IS better than the non-ps2 compatible Playstation version.

[Anonymous No.2024231]

>>2024227

What about DQ ?

[Anonymous No.2024239]

>>2024231
Not in a position to judge. The only DQ game I own or have put serious time into is 7 on the Playstation, which I don't think is on anything else. Good game, but it doesn't make me an expert on the series.

[Anonymous No.2024242]

>>2024198
I haven't played most of them besides P4G and Neptunia, but it seems like the vita versions of a lot of games are kind of "definitive" versions (Disgaea's, Ateliers, etc)

[Anonymous No.2024251]

>>2024239

There's a remake of 7 on 3ds, many says that it's a pretty big improvement over the ps1 version.

As for DQ, 4-5-6 are better on DS, the first 2 on SNES, even if many prefer the GBC version.

[Anonymous No.2024283]

>>2024251
Well, there you go. The thing about DQ 7 is that it has really bad graphics. So while the DS versions of FF3 and 4 look really ugly compared to the original NES and SNES games, I'd imagine 7's remake looks better. Though not necessarily, since the enemy sprites looked ok.

I don't have a DS (or any Nintendo console newer than a 64, for that matter). Played FF3 remake on my ipod. It was ok.

[Anonymous No.2024327]

>>2024242

Persona 1-2-3 are massively better on psp too.

[Anonymous No.2024341]

>>2024283
Not that it matters, but that actually isn't true now that I think of it. I do have a Gameboy Micro, just for the FF titles I referred to earlier. Talk about eyestrain, unfortunately, as it is a cool little toy.

[Anonymous No.2024431]

>>2024327
Some people didn't seem to like P3P as much since they had to take out the anime cut scenes and town movement, but I never played it on PS2 and I really enjoyed it myself.
I never played 1. I liked two, besides the crazy encounter rate. (I really wish they would've localised Eternal Punishment :( I've yet to play it)

[Anonymous No.2024474]

Okay, Anon playing PSP version here... Sorry if I bothered anyone complaining about the voices and stuff. I was looking for an OT or something to read along as I play and I came across this... http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=373896&page=1
I never played the original back in the day, but I could understand if the music in English and everything is part of the appeal.
I only read the first page so, not having played the original, I don't know what's even changed. I just didn't mean to sound rude, if I did I'm sorry and I'll let u have a couple of my POGs if u want? :)dticata are

[Anonymous No.2024527]

>>2019407
For Lunar 2 especially I highly HIGHLY recommend the Sega CD version, it's actually better in many regards with more animations and better graphics. Compare the illusion woods.

[Anonymous No.2024532]

>>2024431
>I never played 1. I liked two, besides the crazy encounter rate

I started with 1 and persona 2 looks tame in comparison, i had to farm for 2 days and unlock two ultimate persona to beat the final boss.
And i didn't even like the story.

Persona 2 on the other hand has sympathetic characters and a more interesting story, so the farming is more bearable.

I heard that P3 goes full pretentious and emo, are the rumors true ?

[Anonymous No.2024540]

>>2024474

From what i know, they eliminated some reference from the 90's pop culture, nothing important, if you ever played Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean you know what i mean.
And it's also more accurate now.

[Anonymous No.2024547]

>>2024474

Working design used to translate games in a lighthearted and almost comedic tone, play the psp version and after some time play the ps1 one if you want to experience a story narrated in a different way but less accurate.

[Anonymous No.2024683]

>>2024532
Hmm yeah I might just skip P1 unless they have a crazy sale for it or something.
Personally I loved 3. I actually have the first movie for 3 downloading right now.
There were a couple times I thought characters were being overly dramatic, but their supposed to be high schoolers and some pretty terrible things happen or have happened to most of them. So yeah there is some crying and stuff, but they have fun going on school trips together and talking about girls in yukatas and stuff too :P (And there's even a couple small references to P2 )

[Anonymous No.2024705]

>>2024540
>>2024547
Yeah after reading more of that thread I think I understand. I dunno, I'm really enjoying this version so far, it kinda reminds me a little of Trails in the Sky. I'm not sure if its Xseed's localization doing it or just the game in general... I guess both have the whole "this is my sister but we're not related" thing going on.
Maybe I will have to play the original someday too to see if the crazy amount of negativity in that thread was warranted. I just hope it's not weird going into Lunar 2 after this.

[Anonymous No.2024709]

>>2024705
>I'm not sure if its Xseed's localization doing it or just the game in general...

Most of Harmony's English script was lifted from Silver Star Story. Even some of the more facepalm-y jokes were kept, like the chicken one. Vic was pissed, apparently.

[Anonymous No.2024820]

>>2024709
I'm gonna have to read more of that thread. He was posting in there on one of the earlier pages I read.

I don't think I've heard the chicken joke yet... It's my first time playing and I'm only at this first coastal port town after this Nash jerk who likes Luna just joined my party... Nall was talking about taking some chickens back to eat em at one point though.

[Anonymous No.2025713]

>>2021572
Ah, the "real" Lunar 3.