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What do you think of this retro controller list?

>> No.2016335

Most of those aren't even retro controllers to begin with and the Gamecube controller is literally only good for Gamecube games. No Sega, either, c'mon son.

>> No.2016339


>No Saturn in god tier.
>or at all
>In fact no sega

whoever made this is a nigger

>> No.2016343

there are third party drivers for the pro controller
look up wiinupro

>> No.2016346

>list is based off d-pad usability for retro games on a pc

Also at the bottom it tell you you can get adapters for the original controllers. The top is for new controllers.

>> No.2016347

its ok.
I have no experience with buffalo pads, and even though I think xbox controllers are the best you can get for modern games, the position of the D-pad just isn't that great for /vr/. Furthermore, there's no option for a 6-button pad like the saturn or genesis on there, apart from that footnote that says to try and find an adapter.
Otherwise no issues with it.

Personally, for /vr/ I'd check out the ps4 to see how stiff the D-pad is. The DS3 (what I'm using now) hurts my thumb after too much use, and the triggers are far too mushy for my liking. If they're the same, then depending upon how much modern gaming you do, then the xbone controller might be the better choice, especially with that native windows support.
>tldr; try them both out and the one that fits your needs more.
or just buy both...

>> No.2016350

The Wii classic pro is nice, use it for emulation on my Wii. Use the DS3 for PC, never had a problem with it.

>> No.2016363

>Original Xbox Controller
>Bad tier
>"Considered by some to be the worst first party controller in history."
The exact same thing can be said and remain truthful about literally every single other first party controller ever made. Who wrote this? This is subpar 9th grade writing.
>"This won a Guiness World Record for largest controller, not even joking."
If the award was even true, who cares? There will always be a largest and smallest for everything. It's not even the largest controller designed to begin with. The Guiness Video Game World Records books are known to contain dozens of erroneous awards every single edition.

oh golly what is this horrible contraption

>> No.2016365 [DELETED] 

>There will always be a largest and smallest for everything

fat acceptance shill plz go

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>> No.2016372

That Thrustmaster must be a boon if you have 7 fingers and one thumb on each hand.

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made me laugh
love you vr

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>> No.2016381

Not sure if it's worth adding but there's a way to modify your normal Xbox 360 controller with a transforming d-pad, and as long as you have about $5, screwdriver, and a sharp object like a knife it's possible.


>> No.2016382

Is the Xbox One controller actually any decent? Never used one before and never heard much talk about them.

>> No.2016385

The PS2 controller DOES have Windows (and Linux) support, though...You plug it in, and it works without having to install or modify anything.

With that alone, I wouldn't trust anything on this list.

>> No.2016401

logitech controllers arent that bad...

>> No.2016406
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>Hori Controllers
That can't be real

>> No.2016408

uh... no... the DS2 does not have full windows support. Its detected as a generic controller, which causes some minor issues with the analogue sticks and pressure sensitivity on the shoulder buttons.
Not a big issue for /vr/, but enough to cause problems for anything else.

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If you're not using this then you are pleb as fuck.

>> No.2016417

The d-pads aren't great.

>> No.2016418

neithers my dick but your mom didnt complain

>> No.2016423

Don't be so hard on your dick.

>> No.2016424

I bought an entire pallet of those. Waiting for the value to go up so I can sell them and retire.

>> No.2016425

>SCP Driver Package
What is this exactly?
I'm still using MotionInJoy + Better DS3, is there any reason to switch over? I thought it would be a more convenient solution but the installation instructions sound as much of a hassle as dealing with MIJ.

>> No.2016428


Yeah, except I've been using them for months now on both my Windows laptop and Linux desktop with literally no issues...And that includes PS1 emulation.

>> No.2016430

>I don't notice the issues therefore there are none

You probably order your steak well done too.

>> No.2016432

like I said, fine for /vr/, not so fine for anything else.

>> No.2016434
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A tier list of limited edition controllers like that would be neat.

>> No.2016439

What if I put Limited Driver support for the ps2 controller? Would that make more sense?

>> No.2016440


I don't eat steak. And there are no issues...If I don't notice these supposed "issues", then they're not there because what matters is my ability to play the game, and I can play all of my games with no issues just fine. A theoretical issue isn't the same thing as a practical issue.

>> No.2016443

Shitty OP list aside, the DualShock 2 analog issue is a problem and makes emulating MGS 2 and 3 a pain in the ass since there's no pressure sensitivity. It basically makes a DualShock 2 no different than a DualShock 1.

>> No.2016445 [DELETED] 

Bioshock is fun game.

>> No.2016450

can i have one?

>> No.2016452 [DELETED] 

not retro bro.

>> No.2016457

>I don't eat steak.
your opinion is now irrelevant.

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Bro, that ain't even its final form

>> No.2016470

It's... beautiful...

>> No.2016476

Your beautiful.

>> No.2016481

Your just saying that.

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>No Sega, either, c'mon son
I'm also interested in seeing where Saturn model 2s place on this list. They'd get top marks for d-pad but would they be knocked for lacking all 4 shoulder buttons in regards to PS1 emulation? What's the consensus on the Mad Catz FightPad S.D.?

>> No.2016553

I don't get the "madcatz/razer" hate. Sometimes it goes a bit overboard.

>this is dpad only
>bottom-tier shit is there for the most retarded reasons
>look terrible (according to my opinion as this also doesn't effect the dpad)
>breaks easily because I'm a retarded orangutan
This is why /v/ lists always look stupid.

>> No.2016562

Someone feel like making a tier-list for all the different adapters you might need?
For example, there's dozen different kinds of PS2-to-USB adapters, all with varying levels of functionality and drivers.

>> No.2016565

>DS2 works like any plug and play USB gamepad with an adapter
>DS3 needs third party software to function at all
>somehow this makes the DS3 better

>> No.2016569

Xbone dpad in a hole really isn't that great.
PS4 is alright, much better than previous PS controllers. I like it pretty well.
Wii Classic Pro is mediocre. Dpad is meh and its on the small side even for my girl hands.
Buffalo is good, though just like the original snes one its awkward for fighting games.

DS3/2/1 have mediocre dpads but otherwise okay and easy to setup these days.

Wii U Pro is rubbish as it prioritizes the sticks which isn't great for retro (good for other stuff or it would be if had analogue triggers, which it doesn't)
360 Transforming still has the same shit internals on the dpad as the regualr 360, putting a cross on it does not change that.
GCN controller, just no, fuck that dpad in its ass and the second stick.
Wii Classic still okayish dpad, but cord on the bottom really the fuck.
Hori is the only thing on the list I've not used, can't be worse then the actual N64 one, but I'ld just use something I have around.
360 is in bad tier is not low enough. It has no place in retro gaming.
310 is actually pretty good wth, the dpad beats every Nintendo controller listed here though it suffers the cramped design of playstation controllers. (other logitech are shit though for the most part)
Xbox too god damn big for my girl hands, but may work for others.

I actually like the F310 is decent if you need one on the cheap. A Saturn controller is better then pretty well all this list unless you need an analogue stick.

>> No.2016571

Well assuming you own both controllers already, you're looking at either spending 5 bucks buying an adapter or spending 5 minutes installing some drivers.

>> No.2016578

Actually the chart is wrong you don't need drivers at all for the DS3. There is a conversion layer you can run that translates between xinput and directinput that solves the issue of the PC recognizing as if it were a 360 pad and fucking up the buttons.

>> No.2016590

>no 3D pad saturn

>> No.2016618


>chinese pseudo DS2 controllers

They break so easily that you don't need to hamhands it. It's like they fall apart in hands for no reason.

>> No.2016625

SNES pad was never god tier.

Saturn pad needs to be up there.

Original Xbox pads are technically USB but use a different plug. If you have a spare USB cable and know how to solder, you can get it connected to your PC in a few minutes.

>> No.2016626

> buy shitty chinachong ds2
> load up Dynasty Warriors 4
> square button breaks in less than 20 minutes

I still refer to this as the DW Stress Test.

>> No.2016753

>list is based off d-pad usability for retro games on a pc
How the fuck is a saturn controller not usable on a pc?
That thing is so comfy

>> No.2016757

The saturn controller has 2 shoulders. Plus Z and C can be used as the other shoulder buttons.
Not that you could play all games like that, but you could still play a lot of them

>> No.2016774

Really the only controllers you need are
>PS1/2/3/4 Controller
It's really just a SNES controller with 4 extra buttons, 2 joysticks and a decent Dpad.
>Xbone/360 Controller.
Same as the PS controller except you switch the left stick and the dpad.
The dpad sucks ass which makes this controller really only good for joystick centric games.
>Sega Saturn Controller.
One of the best Dpads ever made.
Great button layout, but emulating other consoles may feel a bit awkward 1st because of it.
Lacks a Select button.
Best pad to play Fighters with.
>Gamecube Controller
Only good for Gamecube and N64(sort of) games.
Garbage for everything else.
>Arcade Stick
The best way to play fighting games.
They're just all around amazing controllers for 4th gen and older games. As long as you like that feel of course.

I think that covers the basics

>> No.2016858

This list isn't retro but the Wii U pro is basically an inverted DS3 that actually has battery life, good buttons, and sticks that don't grind against your skin .

>> No.2016860


I like the Logitech, easy to program (for Mac).

>> No.2016890

Where is Neo Geo pad and its click stick?

>> No.2016902

Am I the only person that just straight up refuses to ever use a third party controller unless it's specifically something like an arcade stick or for rhythm games or whatever? I just don't trust them. Godawful aesthetics usually too.

>> No.2016903


I've only ever owned one but it just stopped working after like a week for no reason.

>> No.2016906


Man the GB looked like a fucking abomination with all these third party things sticking out of it.

>> No.2016920

It's absolute shit, and it comes from a very anally destroy youngster that made a thread about controllers last year.

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If it has any analog stick on it at all I probably won't even bother with it. I'd take a cheap 3rd party controller without one over extraneous joysticks I'll use only once in a blue moon.

Some other good older joysticks are worth mentioning. The Microsoft Sidewinder can be found for a dollar in bins at Good Wills and thrift stores. If you happen to have an older PC with a gameport it is a very good controller with a great stiff old-school feel to the buttons and d-pad.

>> No.2016946

This list is crap it is based on reviews chosen at random from the internet, would not trust

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Holy shit that list is bold and brash. Good thing the trashman is already on the job.

>> No.2016958


That d-pad looks awful tho

>> No.2017081

It may look it, but it's not. It's like an NES control pad in feel.

>> No.2017086

Afterglow controllers are actually pretty good. Definitely not in the garbage tier.

>> No.2017150

>majority of the list needs adapters or 3rd party software to work
Thats the worse part of this list
Second worse it no USB saturn pad

>> No.2017160

>dpad usability
>xbox controller
What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.2017168

Speaking from personal experience, the DS4 D-Pad is pretty great. What are the reccomended drivers for emulation for it? MotionInJoy is bullshit

>> No.2017190

If you're a macfag, there's native support

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>majority of the list needs adapters or 3rd party software to work

Most Pc controllers suck. That's why people go for console controllers.

>USB saturn pad

The official sega ones are rare and expensive.

>> No.2017227

>snes god tier but not wii u pro controller
get real nostalgia fag

>> No.2017229

theres quite a few versions of the saturn USB pads, it might take a little looking around to make sure it's Sega but it's worth it.
I wish the PS2 controllers were easier to find

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PSP as a USB controller (running FuSa GamePad) should also be considered.

>> No.2017242

PSP's dpad is not very good.

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Has anyone tried this adapter? I'm on the fence about buying this as I can't find any real reviews on this model and I heard people complain about input lag on the ones with different ports.

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Aside from the analog(which IS god tier) the rest of the 3d controller is kinda garbage. You can tell its built tough but it just doesn't feel right in your hands.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm the only guy on this planet that(other than then the shoulder buttons) thinks the Saturn model 1controllers are better than the model 2s.

>> No.2017317

I agree. I actually use the Xbox 360 afterglow controller in the pic for a lot of PC games. The sticks feel better and have lasted longer than my first-party one, though the shoulder buttons feel flimsy and the d-pad still sucks.

>> No.2017320

You are not alone while I like the model 2 for the dpad, the model 1 is comfy as fuck.

I really wonder why the hell we lost the technology to make dpads. Even the ones that are decent use a cross or plus instead of a disc, which isn't as good.

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Should the play sega usb saturn pads be added?

>> No.2017390


I see the model 1 like an original 3-button Genesis joystick with 6 button and shoulder buttons, what is actually a good thing for me, as I really like the 3button.

>> No.2017395

I've had an afterglow 360 controller for my laptop work flawlessly for over a year now.

>> No.2017406

>Aside from the analog(which IS god tier) the rest of the 3d controller is kinda garbage. You can tell its built tough but it just doesn't feel right in your hands.
>Also I'm pretty sure I'm the only guy on this planet that(other than then the shoulder buttons) thinks the Saturn model 1controllers are better than the model 2s.
ho god, go on...

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>> No.2017480

How exactaly am I wrong? The rubber buttons and size make it feel like Fisher Price toy. Probably a good controller for you to use tho. No small parts 2 choke on.

>> No.2017498

The wired 360 controller might be the only controller you need.
If you like the PS2 controller(god tier d-pad) you can get an adapter for a small amount of dosh. I have some shit 3rd party PS2 controller and use it all the time with an adapter I have. (forget the actual name, but it is so you can use a PS2 controller on 360. Does not work on the Bawx, but fools my computer good enough.

>> No.2017520

>The rubber buttons and size make it feel like Fisher Price toy
good because a controller is a toy.

>> No.2017585

Afterglow is complete shit.
1st I bought a wired 360 pad during an xmas sale at target.
within a week the left analogue stick broke internally, causing the camera/character to slowly move to the left even if I wasn't touching the controller. $25 down the drain

2nd I bought a wireless PS3 controller, one that swaps the d-pad and analogue stick to be in the 360 configuration. it wouldn't charge and wouldn't connect to either my PC or PS3, it just constantly turned on and off and flashed lights at me. $40 dollars down the drain
and by the way, I'm not the only one who's had that happen. My local gamestore bought a box of 100 of them. every single one had the same issue.

So then I bought an afterglow wired PS3 controller in a standard DS3 configuration, stupidly thinking that would fix the problem (no battery to charge means no connection issues right?).
Nope, same thing, and another $30 lost.
by the time I was done with all those shitty 3rd party pads, I could have bought not one, but two official DS3's or 360 controllers.

>no USB saturn pad
official ones are impossible to find.
otherwise I'd say toss it up there.

>If it has any analog stick on it at all I probably won't even bother with it.
Although I have no issue with you feeling that way, a good portion of the rest of us like having them for when we're playing 3D games.

I agree that the sidewinder is a great controller though, so yeah, it should be on the list somewhere.

>> No.2017630

I don't get the hype for the Xbone controller I just really hate glossy d-pads. I can't stand that shit.

>> No.2017638

I think that for non-Dpad games, the 360 controller is just about perfect.

Dpad Games though require iBuffalo master race.

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>Any controller made by anyone but Nintendo or SEGA.
>Good for retro games

Go back to neo/v/.

>> No.2017653

I could have saved you some time OP.

>Game that uses analogue

>Game that uses D-Pad

>> No.2017672

Its a bit of a boost over the original 360 controller which is decent in the hands, but for retro its still not very good.

Really no controller shoving sticks in the way really works that great for retro. And if you like games that require 6 buttons like fighting games the list gets even smaller because you need a more Sega-ish design.

Decent point, but you should include SNK as they made good ones as well and Nintendo's range of actually good ones is aggressively short, though most of Nintendo are at least okay.

>> No.2017679

The dualshock 2-4 works fine for ps1. Also Atari and neogeo controllers are retro. Stop being retarded.

>> No.2017698
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I use this for arcade games. Good shit.

>> No.2017703

My favorites are the Wavebird, Saturn, Dualshock 4 and Dogbone NES controller.

>> No.2017704

So /vr/... what about for mobile?I'm not exactly willing to root my new device for a wireless controller driver so first-party is a no-go so far.

>> No.2017705

Do you own this? I've wanted to buy one but I've heard there's durability issues with them. Is the d-pad on par with a real saturn controller? The price has me worried a bit.

>> No.2017712

The trouble is there are chinese knock offs that look identical to the originals. The real ones are just a Saturn pad with a usb on the end. And those are hard to find cheap.

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Had 2 of these for years, still work great.

>> No.2017717

Hooking one up to a device physically is probably your best bet if you're running Android.

Most of the third party controllers for mobile are in the same tier as the rest of third party ones unfortunately.

>> No.2017735

We need to acknowledge things that exist in our pastebins and images. If we don't, how is it going to be any use to anons? Everyone will just ask "what about x controller?" And it no one will use it outside of bait.

At least the FF pastebin got it right and mentioned that the mobile editions existed in a brief footnote.

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>Logitech that low
I dunno man. Anecdotical bullshit time.

Some years ago I bought 2 Wireless Rumblepads 2 and they turned out to be the toughest mofos I've ever had.

The pad took a while to get used to, but then it was pretty decent for most games, and GOAT for fighting games.

Then I bought another Rumblepad model and it was terrible; small as shit d-pad and buttons that got destroyed instantly.

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Was coming to this thread to complain about one thing, but then I
>20 results

/vr/ does not let me down

>> No.2017758

>there will never be a perfect controller that encompasses everything that makes a controller perfect while also having 6 face buttons

Why even live anymore

>> No.2017764

Circular dpad are fucking awesome much agreed.

Bluetooth is bluetooth so anything works. You said root so assume android since iOS doesn't let you do shit without a jailbreak. But a jailbreak and root aren't the same thing. Root is just being able to run as admin like in Windows. Some manufactures are bitchy about it, but its not really a problem.

>> No.2017783

Having that controller but instead the wired version, I cannot fathom how you can say anything positive about the D-Pad. Also those square wholes in the Analogues are absolutely retarded. It's welt built and durable though, but it's just a bad controller, would not recommend.

>> No.2017789 [DELETED] 

None of those belong to retro games and the d-pad of the dualshock is crappy.

Just get a controller with a decent d-pad. There you go I saved you hours of useless editing.

>> No.2017796

>Having that controller but instead the wired version
Same anon.
I also had the wired one, it was shit and the d-pad on that one was too small and stiff and the face buttons seem designed to get wrecked rather easily.

The square sockets aren't a big deal though, they never got in the way and kept my autism entertained during loading screens / cutscenes.

The Wireless version fixes the d-pad to the point I'd rather pick my rumblepad for Street Fighter rather than a dual shock.

>> No.2017804

Well I stand corrected then, I assumed it was the same.

>> No.2017813

>Hexagons are the perfect shape
Then how come there has never been a controller with its face buttons arranged in a hex pattern?

>> No.2017818

Last I checked don't drivers for wireless PS controllers at least require a rooted android device either way?

>> No.2017837

So I've got a question, I'm thinking of getting a Dualshock 3 or Dualshock 4, and I'm planning using them via USB, and the battery is internal, does leaving the controller plugged in or plugging and unplugging it several times, would that affect the battery, can the controller work plugged even if the battery doesn't work?

>> No.2017951

There are apps that let you without root I believe.

>> No.2017961

Just buy a saturn knock off usb pad, and get a real saturn pad from gamexchange for cheap, and change out the pc boards. Bam, real saturn pad that works on pc, for under $15. (You might need to put some tape under the L and R buttons)

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>None of those belong to retro games

>> No.2018015

Those were terrible controllers. I hated them even when they were cutting edge.

>> No.2018056

I've had the Saturn controllers for some time, then got the usb, then the saturn ps2. last week I found a genesis six button for five bucks and I gotta say I love the slightly smaller size and closer button placement.

>> No.2018064
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Logitech deserves scorn for having abandoned their occasional neat designs and interesting features, like having a throttle.

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Jesus, i loved the wingman rumble.
I finished MGS2 on extreme at the time with this pad.

>> No.2018073

Not really their fault these days if it doesn't look xbox or playstation it likely won't sell well. Which sucks since Sega may have fucked up their consoles often, but they made the bitchin controllers.

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>I agree that the sidewinder is a great controller though, so yeah, it should be on the list somewhere.

Hell no it shouldn't, it's unqualified along with dozens upon dozens of other discontinued controllers that weren't even common thanks to not coming with a console. It doesn't even use a standard gameport protocol, OR use USB.

>> No.2018080

Where can one buy these at a decent price?

>> No.2018087

That would be awesome, if logitech made a sega shaped controller with some of their previous features - tilt and/or throttle.

>> No.2018095

I'm sure you were there from day one.

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At least they try. At least they give you an alternative option. 6 triggers are useful, they can work just fine with a normal number of fingers.

>> No.2018112

sidewinder is actually one of the, if not the most common PC specific controllers. and yes, the later models do have usb options, either through an included adapter, or having it standard (granted I've never come across a usb one in person, but they've been mentioned on forums before and I've seen photos of them).
The force feedback flight stick is really the best you can get sub $500, and their controllers are in a similar boat.
Though I'd still get a modern 1st party controller over them.

Gravis is another brand that used to make top quality pads btw, so if your pic is supposed to be a bad example, then you failed at that.

>> No.2018123

No, it's an example of countless other old controllers that might be considered but couldn't be included because there's a huge variety of them, they're very different among brands, and gameports get in the way. They're not for general use, they're better left for rounding out win95 boxes and such.

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Sidewinder may be a common brand, sure the later are USB but they aren't even ergonomically alike to the originals.

>> No.2018149

What are you talking about? the second controller they released was the same as the first but with a usb cable.

>> No.2018160

The second gamepad they released was the SW freestyle, which used a gameport.

>> No.2018164

Woah that pad looks pretty awesome for SEGA/NeoGeo emulation... how much was it?

>> No.2018175
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I think around $30 for the original, which IIRC was the one with just one minijoystick.

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Then I think $40-60 for the newer version with PC and and PS2 connectors, which apparently fixed the sharp corners under your index fingers issue.

>> No.2018205
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>Not really their fault these days if it doesn't look xbox or playstation it likely won't sell well.
Thrustmaster deserves to be one tier higher for having various unusual features, like PC&previous-gen-console multi connectors. And the pretentious Ferrari branding is just that kind of thing that they have to do to sell decently.

A caveat that it's only on account of those variably desirable features that they are that less-bad would ensure them not being overvalued.

>> No.2018234

Ribbed for her pleasure.

>> No.2018264
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>not posting /vr/'s ultimate controller

>> No.2018279

Is this a troll thread? The gamecube controller is the one controller that is actually used for it's system's most popular fighting game (SSBM). It was well designed for the games that it was used for and if you can provide a solid argument that isn't "derp, it's not designed for it, need adaptors only because ITS FUCKING OLD" then please do so. How is it not meant for the game if you NEVER see top tier players using any type of input other than THE MOTHER FUCKING GAMECUBE CONTROLLER. Stay pleb, stay bad.

>> No.2018293

Because the topic is for retro use. And its dpad in a hole and limited buttons suck. And for later games that may need dual sticks it also sucks.

But yes for games entirely built around it sure its fine. But that isn't really the topic and I'ld never even remotely consider it to emulate some old NES.

>> No.2018295 [DELETED] 


You mean /v/?

>> No.2018473

wow whats this obsession with "being there" in this board

>> No.2018476

>Thrustmaster deserves to be one tier higher for having various unusual features, like PC&previous -gen-console multi connectors

This is true.
All the thrustmaster stuff i bought yet all had a switch to choose from PC to PS3 or other console

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/v/ just talked shit about you and your list

>> No.2018572 [DELETED] 

It's shit.

>> No.2018609
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These are good too if you can find them cheap.

>> No.2018624 [DELETED] 

No shits given, they'll argue about anything.

Plus thread's dead.

>> No.2019678

I use A a PSP with Fusa Gamepad (a tool that let's you use your PSP as an USB gamepad). it's a bit cumbersome to set up, but it works well, and the D-pad is nice.

>> No.2019736
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>no mention of durability issues

>> No.2019751



PSP FAT dpad was horrible

they fixed it for psp2000 and up.

>the more you know

>> No.2019754

So the NES Retro-link controller is crap? That's really disappointing. How about the Classic USB NES controller?

>> No.2019758
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It depends on the version or just your luck, the d-pad can wear down easy just from how it's designed.I mean, this is Madcatz after all, but if you're lucky, you got something good. I have a variation of it I use for Genesis and Saturn games, and sometimes for GGPO or Supercade online.

>> No.2019790

Makes you sound cooler if you hated it/loved it from day one.

>> No.2019810

Some things are obvious in hindsight. An old system/peripheral/game may now have apparent flaws that didn't matter or weren't a big deal at the time (or not). So, some perspective is important.

>> No.2019834

The model 1 controllers are quite decent. I prefer them when playing RPGs.

>> No.2019838

I played a lot of PC Engine games last year on my afterglow and it served me well. When I got a flash cart and started playing with a SNES controller I kind of missed my afterglow.

>> No.2019842

Can we please just do away with this thing altogether? It's condescending shit, and the whole "god-tier" thing is yesterday's /v/.

>> No.2019849

They're really tiny tho.

>> No.2019851

I don't know man, it looks like Hori makes some bad ass 6 button controllers.

>> No.2019861


I have that Gravis pad and the sidewinder and there is a world of difference between them. It's insulting to even make the comparison.

However, the Gravis pad is actually not that bad either in the long run. To a certain extent it just werks as a game controller in many cases. It might serve well as a player two controller.

I never had to install any specific drivers for my sidewinder, and it is also worth noting that if you want to play older PC games one could consider the controller to be about the appropriate option if you are going for the historical accuracy thing.

>> No.2019873
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Hori Pad EX2 Turbo.

I don't how easy these are to come by, but I use mine for just about everything. Has stood up really well over a year of constant use, though the D-pad has gotten a little noisy. My only gripe with it is the L and R bumpers feel kind of dead. They work just fine, but yeah, just doesn't feel as good as other shoulder buttons out there.

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Pro tip: Both the original Xbox controller and the Model S are easily modded to use a standard USB cable and drivers are readily available. All the tools you need are probably laying around the house. Or you can just buy an adapter for 2 bucks.

I see these in bargin bins for two or three dollars all the time, usually in groups of 3-4.

They make perfectly good controllers, especially if you want to play with multiple people.

If you want to be baller you get the one with the black cable. It's a little less common.

>> No.2019881

The d-pad looks too far towards the center for me.

>> No.2019910

If you can use all the buttons and triggers they extra ones are probably pretty useful for emulation.

>> No.2019916


>> No.2019934

>no keyboard

>> No.2019961

Lets not turn this thread Political.

>> No.2020004
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Does anyone know if this is any good?

>> No.2020049

What's that one that looks like an NES controller but has four face buttons, SNES-style? I've been meaning to grab one of those, but can't for the life of me remember what it's called.

I haven't done much emulation with controllers, but I really love my old Logitech. I've got fond memories of playing Chrono Trigger and FFIII in the car on my shitty old Dell laptop while my family went to visit relatives for Christmas.
I should boot that old machine up again for some comfiness sometime.

>> No.2020118

It's shite.

>> No.2020126
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There's a famicom one, never seen NES style..

It's from Buffalo.

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Found it, had to dig through some bookmarks, tho.
It's the NES30.
Heard some really good shit about it on here awhile back, and I'm gonna try to pick one up soon.


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RPG is done with one hand

>> No.2020458

Anyone recommend a 6 face button controller with a nice circular dpad?

I've considered the NeoGeo one, but I can only seem to find the 4 button version not the 6 for any reasonable price.

There are the Play Sega ones, but most are fakes and not as durable.

Then I thought maybe real Saturn controller + adapter, but who knows if it will be worn out buying used and adapters cause lag to my understanding.

What do guys?

>> No.2020480

Still wondering about this

>> No.2020593

Neither one.
If you want the info on SCP as it is better than MotionJoy

Or just use Xinput Wrapper which just translates Playstations input into 360s input so it can use Windows native compatability. This to me is easier.

>> No.2020606


Search up the Street Fighter 15th Anniversary PS2 pads. They're really good, I got the Chun-Li one and a PS1/2 to USB adapter for about fifteen bucks on Amazon.

>> No.2020609

Found some by MadCatz for the PS3, same thing but already usb or not as good?

>> No.2020617


The one I have isn't made by MadCatz. If you google "Street Fighter 15th Anniversary PS2 Pad"
there should be some results. There are several different versions of them for different characters, when I typed it in it took me straight to link of the Ryu edition on Amazon.

>> No.2020618


Also, I saw that you assumed adapters cause lag, but saw none with mine using a USB converter, compared to a controller that was hard wired to be USB.

>> No.2020623
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>xbone controller flawless
>Wii U pro embarrasing

>> No.2020629

I've got the famicom version of this controller that the same guy did before he did the NES one. I have to say it's solid as FUCK.

If I were to be really picky about it and have to pick something I don't like, I'd say it's a little on the light side. It's not that big of an issue for me though, and if it was I could just put equally distributed weights inside myself. The NES version I feel like probably weighs just the right amount.

Build quality is top tier, connects with my mac super easily, works really well with openemu. I haven't tried it on my PC though because it's the controller I use for emulation when I'm not at home. When I'm at home I just play on my consoles, or if I'm trying a game out I'll emulate it and use a Dualshock 3. I recommend it. It'd be nice if it had secondary shoulder buttons for Playstaion emulation but eh, whaddaya gonna do?

>> No.2020657

How does this one feel in the hand? I've never used a famicom controller before (though I assume they're more or less identical to the NES ones), I am in need of a new controller and this seems like it could come in handy.

>> No.2020670

I can vouch for this thing. D-pad has gotten a bit mushier than it was originally, but still far above most controllers. The buttons are awesome. My only real beef is the sticks, they're way too 'open' for any sort of precision aiming. It's also like $100+ now because they discontinued it.

>> No.2020691

How are the angled shoulder buttons?

A good thing or kinda awkward? I mean Saturn has them on a slant since its curved but the PS2 Street Fighter ones seem really angled, where the 360/PS3 ones are fairly flat. (think they are all actually madcatz, but they make good stuff sometimes)

>> No.2020695

Red flag.

>> No.2020712

Red flag of what?

>> No.2020773


They are angled, but it suits me well enough. It sits comfortably in the hands, and due to the angle, it takes less pressure and movement of the fingers to hit the shoulder buttons. I don't think it was a design flaw, if that's what you're wondering.

>> No.2020853

I love the Wii U pro controller. Sure, it doesn't have analog triggers, but outside of racing games, when do you actually need analog trigger control?

>> No.2020886

It can serve the function of two buttons (fully pressed, semi pressed) which is an added bonus. Not many games take advantage of it and I'm not exactly sure how you can use it outside of them. Even with xpadder.

>> No.2021482


>> No.2021495

I never got the deal with the original Xbox controller being too big, my hands aren't even that big yet it's very comfortable to hold and use.

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Removed original xbox controller due to fat shaming.

>> No.2021630

Why do you keep ignoring the comments about the Saturn controller, you sadistic piece of shit.

>> No.2021641 [DELETED] 

>>2021630 See >>2016346

>> No.2021646


There has to be some reason you keep omitting the saturn controller.

The saturn controller should have been on the list from its creation.

>> No.2021652

Official Sega usb controllers are rare and expensive to get. This list is for the pc use. Also at the bottom it tells you you can get adapters for the original controllers. The top is for new controllers.

>> No.2021658

Dualshock is good only if you grew up with a Playstation.
Itself, it's a pretty average controller that cost way too much for what it is.

>> No.2021695

That only seems to talk about people using the original controllers for the games they are emulating. Many people use the SS controller as a general controller. Not even the more common playsega controllers are mentioned.

>> No.2021712

I asked if I should add the playsega controllers. Here: >>2017381

I didn't get a lot of responses.

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>D-pad high priority
>Gamecube not dumpster tier.

>> No.2021756

>d-pad usability for retro games
>Dual Shock is "good" and even "god"

All of my keks, oh, all of my keks...

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Final version.

>> No.2021817
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What about N64? Are there any well made replicas of those controllers? Using anything else for N64 just doesn't cut it.

>> No.2021828

Except that the SNES controller is god awful if you switch off your shitty nostalgia, of course.

>> No.2021836

Much better than that shit third party crap you guys recommend. Original with USB adapter always.

>> No.2021845

>Using anything else for N64 just doesn't cut it.
Anything but the GameCube controller I'd say. It's a natural evolution.

But N64 USB adapters aren't expensive, so...

>> No.2021848

It's funny because it's actually closer to the truth.

>> No.2021869

Wii Classic Controller is god tier for SNES.

>> No.2021870

>Put here usb adapter for using the original controllers on emulated systems.

English not your first language is it?

>> No.2022046

Yeah, shouldn't have used that "the" in there. Absolutely only noticed it now. That aside, what else is wrong with it? Sounds fine to me.

>> No.2022082

>Absolutely only noticed it now.
>Sounds fine to me

I bet it does.

>> No.2022091

Why you picking on him faggot? Not everyone is a native speaker, grow the fuck up

>> No.2022097


>> No.2022185

Well that's a shitty perspective.

>> No.2022194

Original SNES controller should be the far left for maximum 90s kid masturbation.

>> No.2022209
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I have played with a lot of controllers. Dozens, over a hundred probably. I have owned controllers for pretty much ever major system.

I have owned all the common controllers for the Sega Saturn.

And they are just okay.

That's it. Just pretty good. I don't know why people are so obsessed with them. They are by far NOT the best controller for playing fighting games. Merely the best controller on Saturn for that purpose. For every other genre they're pretty much just about as good as 100 other controllers that are decently built.

To be really brutally honest, I think they're a little bit stiff in the d-pad. :^)

>> No.2022252

You just don't like the facts.

>> No.2022254


>I think they're a little bit stiff in the d-pad.

That's because you're supposed to wear it.in. Any other controller with that "perfect" starting D-Pad will become loose as a hooker after a couple months of hardcore fighting.

>> No.2022258

The XB1 has poor d-pad placement. The PS4 is too bulky and the lack of a connected cross d-pad is distracting. The Wii Classic has a solid d-pad but is still too bulky. The Buffalo SNES and NES pads are the only way to go for retro gaming unless you can get adapters to work for legit, first party pads.

>> No.2022353

I played tons of Street Fighter Alpha 3 and X-men vs Street Fighter on them and I still liked my six button Mad Catz controller for DC better.

>> No.2022359

>tfw I'd like to use new controllers on old systems

Anyone else share this feel? I want a DS4 to NES adapter.

>> No.2022363 [DELETED] 

Not retro. Have a report and take this shit to /v/.

>Sony split d-pads.
>Anything but thumb-cancer tier introduced solely because of patents.
You are twelve and have never played a 2D game in your life.

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Now sega saturn is on there.

>> No.2022372

>retro controller list
>three "retro" controllers
>nineteen non-retro controllers
>only "retro" controllers aren't first party
>2/3 "retro" controllers are modern USB equivalents

I think your list is shit.

>> No.2022374

>list is based off d-pad usability for retro games on a pc

Seems you can't read.

>> No.2022375

>at a decent price?

>> No.2022382

>said the colossal faggot

Nigger I play 2d games every day with a PlayStation digital pad, SCPH-1080. It serves me well.

>> No.2022389

>retro controller list
>3/19 are even close to retro

Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about.
Give it a few years.

>> No.2022394

I swear, several years ago when people were first using Dual Shock 3 controllers with windows there was this long convoluted process to installing them and getting them to work.

Then somebody linked to a zip file someone in japan had made that contained a driver for the Dual Shock 3. I uninstalled the bullshit I had been messing with and literally did this

>unzip file
>double click icon
>"do you want install driver for Sony Dual Shock 3?"

and literally 2 seconds later my controller's red LED lit up and it worked flawlessly from that point forward. Completely native support in every emulator I used. No need for programs or any other bullshit. Just a straight up driver for the thing.

Haven't been able to find that file again since.

>> No.2022401

>Give it a few years.

I won't marry you.

>> No.2022404

I'm not Muslim, I can't marry someone so young.

>> No.2022405

>The XB1 has poor d-pad placement
Not really, the placement doesn't matter, your thumbs can't feel the difference, besides I have never seen people complain about the position of the right thumbstick (which is usually below the face buttons) when they play games that require both thumbsticks, it should be same the other way around.

>> No.2022409

I use a Genesis controller for emulation. I like the 3 button one best in terms of feel, but it doesn't have enough buttons for most things, so I leave it on my actual genesis and run the 6 button one for my PC.

Or I just use an arcade stick.

>> No.2022410

Yet you post on 4chan.

>> No.2022502


Only thing that really works for DS3 is shitty motioninjoy which has the bonus of loading you up with potential malware and turning your usb drives into mush and generally bricking your computer.

Though I use a program that makes my computer think its a 360 pad.

Still its a shit controller its just all i have on hand other than some shitty third party brick controller from like 14 years ago that probably works better.

I would certainly be interested in w/e file you speak of.

>> No.2022554

No I was just wondering it worked well, I thought it may be good, but never had one like that. Put one on order going to give it a shot. If not maybe I'll get a Saturn/adapter.

Yes Madcatz. They were bad in the day, now they are a branch of saitek which actually makes some pretty decent keyboards and flight sticks. We may like to game likes 1991, but some things do change for the better.

>> No.2022584

>We may like to game likes 1991

>> No.2022603

>Though I use a program that makes my computer think its a 360 pad.
You mean those DS3 drivers? I think those are many times better than using MotionInJoy.

>> No.2022607

>He doesn't like to games like 1991

>> No.2022613

>he likes to may not games like 1991 to

>> No.2022617

Damn moon people.

>> No.2022676
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does anyone have experience with this adapter?
does it work with standard drivers on Windows 8.1 and/or GNU/Linux? Also, is it reliable?
Had some bad experience with an older N64 / PS1 combo converter and am kinda wary of these things

other than that, I've seen some Saturn look-alike USB pads on amazon, but they're from retrolink, which, according to OP's list, are shit. Anyone can confirm that?

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is this the real deal? an USB Saturn Controller?

>> No.2022695

I'm telling you there was an alternative to this motioninjoy. It took seconds to install and had no malware or USB issues.

>> No.2022714

That looks like my Mayflash Wii Classic Controller adapter. I've bought two Mayflash product. The Wii Classic Controller adapter and the wireless Wii U Pro controller adapter.

They're fucking flawless. I'd recommend them.

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Yes. I don't now how good they are first hand. I hear the sls ones are better.

>> No.2022729

>itt some people like the Model 1 saturn controller better than the model 2
>are you fucking serious
>that blister inducing d-pad that is more painful than any other
>awful texture and hard edges on the shape that are in no way ergonomic
>shoulder buttons that will register a press with literally the slightest brush of a finger or a piece of clothing or a fucking gentle breeze

fuck that controller right in the ass

the difference between the Model 1 and the Model 2 controllers is like the difference between Heaven and Hell

>> No.2022732

Very cheap, not worth it.

Get an adapter and a real Saturn controller.

>> No.2022737

thanks guys
ordered that Mayflash Saturn Adapter just now
might be better to switch the Saturn controller between PC and console than buying a shitty knockoff or paying a hundred bucks for an SLS controller

>> No.2022884


>different people having different opinions on playing a game in a different game than I

Someone calls the e-police. It's not like you have the change your controller because somebody else prefers another one.

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>> No.2024517

People with larger hands get the Model 1 and swap the dpad out with the one on a Model 2. And its possible to fix mushy triggers.

I wouldn't since girl hands, but its a nice method for the same bear hand people that could hold the N64 controller on its side and still use the middle.

>> No.2024530

>I wouldn't since girl hands

Would you use those hands on me?

>> No.2027274

▲ ▲

>> No.2027419

mine did that after my brother crushed it with a leg of his office chair. Shit doesn't happen naturally though, you have to damage it.

>> No.2027443

I hate the DS4

what the fuck is that touchpad even doing there

>> No.2027538

If you use it for PC you can use it as a mouse. Works well if you are in a couch, need to change something simple and don't want to get up to get the mouse.

I personally love the DS4 and everytime I comment in any of these threads my comments get deleted.

>> No.2027547


Sounds pretty neat. I was just thinking about which controller to get to play emulated/current gen games on the PC.

Is the DS4 compatibility good with the PC?

>> No.2027561

Not him, but I use a driver/program called DS4Windows that makes the controller automatically spoof itself as an xinput controller, so its just as compatible as a 360 after the fact.

You can customize all the binds too. Lightbar, whatever. Its great.

I have my controller hooked up via bluetooth and haven't had any problems - just make sure to update manually rather than through the auto update, that borks it for me for some reason.


>> No.2027563

>I personally love the DS4 and everytime I comment in any of these threads my comments get deleted.

bullshit, I don't believe you.

>> No.2027565


Are updates even required? Once it works, it works, right?

Also, is it worth the premium to the ds3?

>> No.2027570

You don't really need updates, I just keep forgetting to turn off auto update notifications and I keep remembering why updating through it is a bad idea ad infinitum.

I personally didn't really enjoy how the DS3 controller felt, especially the d-pad. Compared to the DS3 using the DS4's d-pad feels effortless to me. Definitely the best controller of the past 3 gens, but I do like the Xbone's sticks a little better.

>> No.2027574

Xbone controller sucks compared to the 360 controller. It has further apart face buttons which are mushier, has worse bumpers which are also mushier and not clicky, and the only improvement it had was the d-pad.

>> No.2028567

i had one of those and it was really really fucking good until the dpad fell off

it was really really really good until then, i had never played so well.

maybe i was grinding in USFIV too much but the dpad on it feels so good

>> No.2028881

So basically its a worse version of one of the worst controllers for retro gaming. Damn that sucks.

>> No.2028951

If you have little baby hands, it should work out just fine.

I bought a Buffalo SNES partially for my niece, mostly because I wanted a simple 8 button controller. It's small in my hands, but the layout is sane, so I can make it work. The layout for the Famicom controller is atrocious, though, which is a shame since it's so beautiful.

I'm not about to tell you what to do with your money, but I'd suggest you don't buy that particular controller if you intend on using it. They make SNES controllers, as well, and they're amazing.

>> No.2028981

If there are no good controllers for /vr/ games, would you consider using the keyboard a good choice for playing retro games?

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Not even once

>> No.2029017


Only if I wanted to do goofy shit that's not really possible otherwise like in MK

>> No.2029052

It's very nice. Comfortable to hold, the battery tumor is gone, the D-pad isn't quite as nice as the DS4's but definitely serviceable. A lot of people rage about the use of AAs but I don't really mind, you can go to Costco and get like 80 of them, or buy a pair of rechargeable ones for about $10.

>> No.2029063

If you have 0 access to any controller at all, then yeah. But honestly, even a bad controller is better than no controller as far as I'm concerned.

>> No.2029072


If you have nothing else, sure, but even then it's mostly limited to systems with more simple button schemes, such as the NES. Playing Mega Man X with a keyboard, for example, is not very intuitive.

>> No.2029143

A mechanical keyboard is pretty much equal to a hitbox.
A rubberdome keyboard is equal to a controller that uses rubber domes of equal build quality (ie. ranging from decent to terrible).

Using keyboard allows you to use effectively four fingers on each hand at the same time, which is plenty enough for most games and much more comfortable than trying to do everything with your thumbs.
So far the only games that I prefer to play with pad are Devil May Cry 3 & 4 because of analog movement/camera and LOTS of action buttons, some of which need to be held down a constantly.

It's kind of ironic that keyboard has gotten such a bad reputation at gaming (mostly because "I liek to lie on my coach, keyboards are for nerds") while the cheap replacement for arcade sticks have become the norm.

>> No.2029146


Or you know, most games are made for gamepads

>> No.2029172

Keyboards are best for games made with them in mind for sure, just like the mouse.

But some things require a thumb roll for quick silky execution which is physically impossible on a keyboard, thus the bad rep. And some other things are a shit load less comfortable even if they can be done.

>> No.2029204


I've been rocking laptops for the past few years, and the only one that didn't freak out when you press more than three buttons at the same time just crapped out on me. Some retro games don't work out so well with two input buttons at a time.

Another factor is the simplicity of the gameplay. I'd never do it with a fighting game or something like say, Super metroid. Mario or something, sure why not?

>> No.2029235

I really hate the xbone controller

>> No.2029356

I actually like the Wii U Pro controller.

>> No.2029359

why is dualshock 2 only in OK tier, it has decent windows support with the mentioned adaptor, the adaptors are cheap as fuck and it's easier to set up than a DS3. Also DS2s last longer than a DS3 and, at least to me, feel better unless you get the special one with gun like triggers.

>> No.2029363

I'd only use a keyboard with nes or snes style jrpgs, otherwise I wouldn't think of it, also there are a lot of good controllers for /vr/ games, this list is shit and probably just troll bait.

>> No.2029365

I personally wouldn't get something like an NES style controller, waste of money on something that's really only useful on NES and master system games. would rather spend the money on something I could use for any system.

>> No.2029395

a keyboard is the best choice for a couple games like Prince of Persia

>> No.2029461

Wasd+ujikol is too good to pass up for many retro control schemes that would feel awkward otherwise, eg. Sega consoles and arcade sticks.

>> No.2030028

Careful though it depends on key rollover. Most cheapo keyboards only have a rollover of 6, laptops often less, mechanical have more, but if you have mechanical you probably have a controller. Damn I miss when those were a standard not the premium.

>> No.2030167

I had one of those. Thing was phenominal.

>> No.2030179

Madcatz are the shit controller you make guests use.

>> No.2030189

Not really. I'd just do something else.

>> No.2030198


Just because this is /vr/ doesn't mean you need to pretend it's still the 90s

>> No.2031212

Gtfo Madcatz shill.

>> No.2031563

Madcatz bought Saitek in 2007, a company that actually knows how to make shit. Among other changes they were aiming at improving their shitty products.

>> No.2031575


Look, Madcatz isn't fucking Pelican. There's a reason they're still around. They started getting their shit together in the last few years. I personally own 2 of their arcade sticks.

>> No.2031580

Madcatz has made some good sticks in recent years. >>2031575 said it best.

>> No.2031602

they differ greatly between various iterations of the controller (the old ones are terrible, new ones are fine for 1CCing arcade titles with).

>> No.2032315 [DELETED] 


No cares about that. This is a controller thread.

>> No.2032320


No one cares about that. This is a controller thread. The guy said Madcatz are the shitty controller you make guests use.

>There's a reason they're still around.


>> No.2032326


MC is only still around because they make good gear now. MC never had a good reputation, so I'm not sure why you're saying branding had anything to do with that.

>> No.2032328

they had good genesis controllers.

>> No.2032358

>good gear

Them making a few recent good items and I basing this off just two posts in this thread doesn't make them a good peripheral company.

>> No.2032417

Some of their controllers mid 2000s and on started to get good. Controllers not sticks since someone wanted to split hairs. Some of their other accessories were also pretty good before that.

Yes in the age of the PS1 and N64 they made the worse products known to gaming kind, then it was hit or miss, now its okay to actually good.

I say this as a very picky on controller person. I mean hell I only consider nearly all of Nintendo's and Sony's controllers middle of the road for their dpads or other issues. And they are good by most tastes.

>> No.2032436

>wanted to split hairs

Well This whole thread is about controllers....

Also you didn't list any specifics on what recent or past products they made which you thought are good.

>> No.2032591

Okay sure. I've not tried them all. And sticks are controllers, that is why I said it was splitting hairs. I mean if you are doing that may as well divide it between those with and without analogue sticks.

I do recall the remote for the PS2 being good. The Street Fighter PS2 controllers dont have the logo, but are made by Madcatz (hiding their past shame I guess). The ones on 360 and PS3 are also good.

They bought Saitek in 2007 pretty much all the keyboards and flight sticks they make are good and ultimately its Madcatz using their name for a brand.

>> No.2032741

>The ones on 360 and PS3 are also good.

Durability problems.

>They bought Saitek in 2007 pretty much all the keyboards and flight sticks they make are good and ultimately its Madcatz using their name for a brand.

That's great and all. I wouldn't still wouldn't recommencement buying a gamepad from them. Most of there stuff isn't up to snuff.

>> No.2032743

I hate playing platformers with keyboard, something about the away -> backwards jump on a keyboard, like wall jumping in Ninja Gaiden, feels horribly wrong. But for any other genre, I'm right at home. Mainly because I've been PC gaming as long as I've been console gaming.

As for controllers, though, why would you ever use a modern controller instead of an adapter and a retro controller of your choice?

>> No.2032750


Why not? Because you have a stick up your ass?

>> No.2032753

>As for controllers, though, why would you ever use a modern controller instead of an adapter and a retro controller of your choice?

You like the feel of that new controller.
You wanted a new controller. Rather then used.
At the bottom it tell you about usb adapter.

>> No.2032763

Because they make bad gamepads.

>> No.2032764


No, they used to.

>> No.2032779

You haven't listed any recent good ones.

Gamepad= D-pad and buttons and sometimes analog sticks.

>> No.2033108

Not so. I use PS4 to test software daily, the sticks are wrecked within 2 months. We use rubber caps.

>> No.2033112


It's only with launch ones

>> No.2033190

Oh right. That might be it.

>> No.2033191

I've played my PS4 every day since launch and my controller is fine - that said I do want to get caps for it for better grip.

>> No.2033352
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I'm planning on shelling out for pic related. How does /vr/ feel about this pad?

>> No.2033358


It's very rare for people who got one after the initial supply to find problems with the sticks. I got mine on black friday last year and the only problem with the stick is that one of them has a small indent where the controller got knocked off my desk and I accidentally dug my fingernail into it while catching it.

>> No.2033365


>gamecube not god tier
>logitech in bad

>> No.2033386


Is it a USB controller for emulating or an actual controller?

>> No.2033391

it's a gamecube controller

>> No.2033392



Man, I had one of these for the PS2. Playing games in the dark with it was fucking amazing.

>> No.2033395

Gamecube is an awesome controller for gamecube games, but for retro emulation?

The d-pad is too small and awkward to reach, and the triggers don't feel right for most games.

>> No.2033397

Never understood that either, my Logitech works fine. Only complaint is that the buttons get soft after a while but thats normal.

>> No.2033403


I'd rather just use a gamecube controller honestly.

>> No.2033405

It would be nice for stuff like the megaman collection, since the gamecube's dpad is pretty bad

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Yeah, I guess you're right.


This is my emulating controller, only thing I dislike is the d pad being. It's not unresponsive, just awkward.

>> No.2033424
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Yeah, I guess you're right.


This is my emulating controller, only thing I dislike is the d pad. It's not unresponsive, just awkward.

>> No.2033428
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people love to shit on the n64 controller because it's popular to hate it, but honestly it's a great controller for playing 2D games. just think about it. if you ignore the middle handle, and only use the outer two, you have a good dpad, two shoulder buttons, and six face buttons. it's also super easy to use if you have a usb adapter, I use it all the time for all kinds of shit. plus look at all the fucking colors it comes in

>> No.2033437


The N64's Z-button is still the greatest button on any controller of all time.

>> No.2033439

I have a ton of the grey controllers sitting around, so i'm thinking about making a "2D only" controller, where the analog is removed and the Z button is moved. I just haven't figured out a good way to do it yet

>> No.2033536

Never had durability issues people said that about the dualshock too.

Up to snuff to what?
The cheap rubber on the DS4, the spongy shit of the DS3 or GCN, the crap dpads of the 360, the meh dpad of any nintendo past SNES, the hinge snapping goodness of the DS?

They went up and everyone else went down they've all met in the middle somewhere. Damn I miss old Sega. And I really get the feeling you've not used very many of any variety and are just taking all this second.

>As for controllers, though, why would you ever use a modern controller instead of an adapter and a retro controller of your choice?
Because N64. I get it though I have one without analogue sticks and one with them as I don't think they ever found a good way to have a well positioned dpad, enough buttons, and dual sticks on one controller. Something always gets short changed.

>> No.2033581 [DELETED] 

>delusional n64-fags checking in

>> No.2033584

feel free to explain your side or fuck off back to /v/

>> No.2033606

I've consistently shit on it since the N64 was new and my friends thought OoT the pinnacle of open world combat.

Having 6 face buttons I will grant you gives it an edge on some 2D games, of which the actual N64 had nearly none. Though its dpad is meh. It does work fairly well using the outer handles, but at that point may as well use something with a similar shape and no middle dildo, of which there are plenty better.

>> No.2033659

Man, I wanted one of those ever since I saw it in EGM or whatever magazine it was. No idea what I'd ever use it on but it looks so cool.

I have a Wii Classic Controller but it's just not the same.

>> No.2033896

I'm about to ask something that I'm sure no one else in history has ever asked for, but I have an unusual need and I hope someone here can set me on the right path.

I need N64 style controller that I can use with a GambeCube or Wii.

A simple adapter would be great. But I'll take a third party controller if I have to. As long as it has the N64 form factor.

>> No.2033958

The ds isn't even a gamepad. It's portable console.

>And I really get the feeling you've not used very many of any variety and are just taking all this second.

You seem to be some non-english madcatz fanboy. You stated your opinion but most of if not all of vr is going to say first-party is better than madcatz as far as gamepads.

>> No.2033965
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Five seconds in google.



>> No.2034067

I've had a black usb ss for years, I thought it was original till a few months ago when someone here mentioned the fakes make a click noise when you press the shoulder buttons. Gonna get some play sega ones as I hear they are the same quality. Fake or not I fucking love this controller

>> No.2034081

I have an adapter to use gamecube controllers on PC already for melee. I would be using to emulate basically all of my 2d games.

>> No.2034082

Could I gut this and a nes pad to and use the shell for the nes pad?

>> No.2034287

To reiterate, I'm basically just asking how good the d pad is and if the controller is durable.

>> No.2035351

Hori is known for their good d-pads. You should look up some reviews for durability.

>> No.2035674

almost vaporwave

>> No.2035698

i was thinking the same

>> No.2035835

Best first party would be PS3.

Best tbird party is probably MOGA because of support.

>> No.2035839


>> No.2035929

A waste unless you really have a hard on for the GBplayer even then you would actually be better with using an original GBA

>> No.2037139

It looks like it would be inconvenient to play Smash TV with it.

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>> No.2037282

Holy shit I still cannot understand how that d-pad managed to be so good, it makes no sense

>> No.2037842 [DELETED] 

You have brain damage?

>> No.2038124


Nah, I'm the same way.

To contribute, I think the 360 controller is perfectly acceptable. The D-pad sucks, but overall it's pretty damn good.

>> No.2038129

>d pad sucks
>overall it's damn good
>we're talking about using them for retro games
>dpad is essential
>es no bueno

>> No.2038139

>dpad is essential
Not for 3D games. Did you fall asleep from 1994 until present?

>> No.2038152


Try playing OlliOllie with a 360 controller and then tell me it's fine

>> No.2038153


Playing shit. No thanks.

>> No.2038156


>judging games without playing them
>not stating any reasons why it's bad just "it's shit"

You seem to be lost, let me help


>> No.2038158


I use my PSP to play pretty much anything that isn't SNES.

I use the 360 controller for everything 3D.

I use a DS2 with adaptor for SNES and everything that requires a decent D-Pad.

Overall this set up works perfectly fine for me.

Saturn Model 2 Controller is the best controller ever made besides what I got going.

>> No.2038160

fact is, most retro games aren't 3D
and also, even the ones that were usually still utilized the dpad heavily

games like ape escape were a rarity

>> No.2038163

So you did fall asleep from like 1994 until recently.

There are a load of PSX games that use analog controls, and damn near everything on the N64 uses analog controls.

Are you also going to argue against using an arcade stick because "most retro games weren't arcade games"?

>> No.2038170

>two systems out of the other (I want to say roughly 100? I could be off but I know there was a lot)

No arguing against an arcade stick... unless it's a shitty one. I'm arguing against the 360 controller.

not to mention the 360s analog sticks suck compared to PS anyway

>> No.2038171

just to be clear obviously there were more than 2 retro systems that used analog controls (dreamcast) but still, most of them didn't

>> No.2038201

Bringing up non retro games. Maybe you should gtfo.

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Even DOS games are compatible with analog controls. Indy 500, for example. Was a big surprise to me when I could use my Dualshock to gently steer and accelerate playing it. Need for Speed and lots of other games uses it too.

>> No.2038314 [DELETED] 


In relation to someone else talking about a non retro controller you cum slurping fruit.

>> No.2038323

You could have easily brought up a retro game. Also He already said the d-pad sucked.

>> No.2038327


>analog stick
>pretending like modern games don't exist just because it's a retro board even if they're more relevant to the current conversation which is still /vr/ related

Yeah nah

>> No.2038334

What point are you even trying to make?

>> No.2038335


I wasn't the one trying to make a point. What was yours?

>> No.2038338


This >>2038152

Isn't you?

>> No.2038346


What does that have to do with "making a point" 6 replies later? If your issue was with that post then reply to that post, don't hop on the reply chain late and act like a retard.

>> No.2038347

So you don't have one. Just want to shill your shitty game gotcha.

>> No.2038348

we're not "pretending that modern games don't exist" it's called being on a retro board so that's what we talk about
This controller list specifically says "RETRO controllers"

now please go back to /v/

>> No.2038367


You seem really upset that someone thinks the 360 controller sucks

>> No.2038371

Took you forever to just say that.

>> No.2038379 [DELETED] 


I was waiting for something other than /v/ tier shitflinging or you know, an actual rebuttal other than "go back to /v/" "it's shit" "so what" etc

I'm really not sure why anyone would get so upset at suggesting someone try out a game that can easily be had for $1 legally.

>> No.2038381

All you said was the 360 controller sucks. Not a stunning review.

>> No.2038382 [DELETED] 


No, I said try it out on a specific game that requires accurate and quick manipulation of the analog stick in multiple directions then make up your own mind.

Again, don't jump in at the end of a reply chain and act like a retard

>> No.2038383

not the same person lol
love it when that happens, they always look like such a moron

it's like when you're playing bullshit and someone calls it and loses

you take the pile, bitch

>> No.2038385


Where was it implied that those two posts were from the same person?

>> No.2038387

You didn't say shit about the the game other then to mention it. Also you didn't bring up accurate and quick manipulation of the analog sticks till now. Stop making shit up.

>> No.2038389

Uh, usually that's what someone is implying when they respond to two posts saying "you"

>> No.2038393 [DELETED] 


No? Being terse isn't the same as calling samefag, if I was I was going to.

Maybe you should have paid attention in your ESL classes.


So I need to spoonfeed you everything or else you'll call it shit? No thanks, in the time you've been bitching you could have researched, downloaded and played the game yourself by now. But you continue to complain because you're stuck in an internet argument and your autistic brain won't let you back down.

There's literally nothing I could say that wouldn't result in you attempting to attack me.

Why the fuck would I ever try to be kind and helpful to someone who's been nothing but a cunt?

>> No.2038396

okay dude

>> No.2038398

Help? It's your argument man. Not mine. Also get off the game. This isn't the board for that.

>> No.2038401


Right but it's the board for backpedaling and moving goal posts right? Fuck off, if you cared about board quality you would have never started shit.

>> No.2038403

>be anon
>be very grumpy
>probably should head on back home

to /v/

>> No.2038406


>it's not /v/posting when i do it

Yeah you have fun shitting up the board. Hopefully you're get tired and move on to a different one.

>> No.2038407

different anon there bucko

>> No.2038409



>> No.2038410

Oh, if you were implying that I was telling you to go back to /v/ because you were shitposting, I wasn't.

I was telling you to go back there because I don't like you

>> No.2038413


If you're looking for a personal hugbox where you can tell people you don't like to leave then 4chan is the wrong website for you.

>> No.2038415

Never said that's what I was looking for
That being said, I'm pretty sure I can still tell you to leave
Please do.

>> No.2038418


Why because some asshole said so? No thanks

>> No.2038423

Well, my good sir, that is entirely your perogative
I've made clear my feelings on the matter so it appears we're at an impasse here.
Good day and may you have a pleasant morrow

>> No.2038472 [DELETED] 

This thread is controllers.

>> No.2038479

this chain of posts fucken blow lol

Back on topic; has anyone had any luck with Hyperkin? Ive been meaning to look for a decent Genesis USB controller.

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Don't you mean out of controllers?

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Not any more.

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>> No.2038505

You get could get a cheap usb adapter and a used sega controller.

>> No.2038513


>> No.2038616

>xbox one controller in god tier

Literally lost its own credibility from the first controller image.

>> No.2039245

So what don't you like about it?

>> No.2039296

It's amazing. No joke.
I only stopped using it because I lost it in a move.

>> No.2039361

I read that as: I lost it in a movie.

Mind blown.

>> No.2039370

playstation 2 and 3 controllers beat the 360 controller because convex analog sticks are better than concave.

Playstation 2 beats 3 by virtue of not having R2 and L2 buttons instead of triggers.

SNES gets honorable mention for setting a button layout standard, unless another controller did that first?

>> No.2039512

You are comparing analog sticks? You do know what board this is?

>> No.2039807

Well the n64 and playstation are retro and have analog sticks.

>> No.2039812

Too bad segmented D-Pads are actually worse than the Xbox 360 D-Pad.

>> No.2040006

This has been bugging me for a little while. When I was a kid, I recall playing Sonic CD on a computer with a Sega controller of some type. Was there such a controller that was natively PC compatible?

>> No.2040010

>playstation 2 and 3 controllers beat the 360 controller because convex analog sticks are better than concave.

That's down to personal preference.

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I tried these on my 360 gamepad:



I think it worked quite well, but if you want to try it, you should think it too well if is worth it or if you would be happy with the results.

>> No.2040276

>Too bad segmented D-Pads are actually worse than the Xbox 360 D-Pad.

There is no such thing as "worse than 360" as far as D-pads go.

>> No.2040294


Although I don't like segmented or the SNES dpad, the 360 is bad at the point it hurts your thumb.

>> No.2040306
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Are you sure about that?

>> No.2041802

Oh shit.

>> No.2041814

Most of those aren't even retro

>> No.2041838

>list is based off d-pad usability for retro games on a pc

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Update title and replaced hori image.

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Update title and replaced hori image.

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Updated the title and replaced the hori picture.

>> No.2042271,1 [INTERNAL] 

This list is utter shit. Where are the original SNES, 6 button Megadrive, Saturn and PS2 Saturn pads? Also, comparing the Wii U Pro controller to the DS2 makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

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