/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2011069]

This is a pretty fun game.

What am I in for if I fight the final boss with his limiter off?

Hell?

[Anonymous No.2011081]

Getting hit by shit for 9999 damage, you need to have your skills in order to not get shit stomped.

[Anonymous No.2011116]

>>2011069
hell unless you have party with long combo attacks and you're lucky

Opera can tear him a new asshole, limiter or not.

[Anonymous No.2011119]

>>2011081
I have most of them maxed out on some characters.

Unless you mean spells and killer moves. What should I use?

[Anonymous No.2011152]

he can be stunlocked perpetually with noel

[Anonymous No.2011157]

>>2011119

Parry is a must otherwise he will instantly kill your party with his shock wave, since it does obscene damage with the limiter off.

It's mostly just kill him before he kills you though, I think that one summon type spell he does can just obliterate your party regardless of what you have for skills.

[Anonymous No.2011159]

>>2011069
Well put it like this....have you ever wanted to turn a pear into a peach?

[Anonymous No.2011181]

>>2011152
How? I've always thought Noel to be pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.2011192]

>>2011181
he is, but ironically he can trivialize Indalecio
I can't remember which spell, one of his weaker ones

[Anonymous No.2011786]

>>2011069
1. Farm Iseria Queen until you have two Angel Armbands on every party member.
2. Fight Unlimited Indalecio.
3. Drink a Coke.

[Anonymous No.2012706]

>>2011786
The Queen is easier? Figured she'd be a lot tougher.

[Anonymous No.2012835]

Does regular Indalecio still have that giant woman behind him during the fight?

Because I had such a hard time against him as a kid (to the point that he became kind of a joke between me and my brother) that I think I removed his limiter on accident.

[Anonymous No.2012895]

>Pickpocket the Mischief accessory
>Once in a while I get a Forged Medal from it
>Master the Reproduction skill
>Use the Magical Camera and Film on the Medal
>Get a whole new medal
>mfw

I advanced forward so hard.

[Anonymous No.2012962]

>>2012895
I loved those accessories that randomly dropped items all the time. I got so much loot I wasn't supposed to have yet.

[Anonymous No.2013014]

>one shot boss before fight even starts with that kill instantly shield

well..that happened

[Anonymous No.2013214]

>>2012895
>Get that sword from the old man after the Lacour Tournament
>Customize it with Mithril gotten from upgrading Radar a few times
>Get second strongest weapon in the game halfway through disc 1

[Anonymous No.2013379]

>>2013214
I know, right? Between that and the Reproduced Forged Medals, and all the free shit from Mischief letting me Customize everybody's weapons to among the best available, I'm blasting through way too easy.

[Anonymous No.2013828]

yknow it's weird the only parts of this game that ever gave me trouble was a random boss in the mines (when you first recruit Leon), he kept wrecking my shit and to this day I'm not sure why...

also SPICULE! DAAAAMN ITS HOT HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.2014524]

I dropped this game shortly before CD2. I was overwhelmed by the min-maxing you have/can do, and overall the battles were pretty bad. Do I give it another try? Does it get better?

[Anonymous No.2014583]

>I was overwhelmed by the min-maxing

what? the only thing you need to do at the start is max out that skill that permanently decreases the amount of points you have to put into other skills.

and if you want to make sure your character will be good at stealing, your char has dexterity as an initial talent at the start of game by restarting until you do.

after that it's all good and stress free

[Anonymous No.2014587]

>>2014583
I didn't know anything beforehand, so I had to restart the game some three times. That's where the stress came from.

[Anonymous No.2014606]

>>2014587
>I cant have fun unless someone is holding my hand

[Anonymous No.2014612]

>>2014606
I restarted exactly because I went in blind, then read later on how pickpocketing is so important. I won't play the game and miss out on something so big that you basically can't use if you're not lucky as you start.

[Anonymous No.2014643]

>>2014612

It's not that big of a deal, the biggest thing about it is getting that fucking insanely strong sword right at the beginning of the game.

If you don't want to completely break the game and ruin the experience, you don't need your protag to have pickpocketing.

I wouldn't recommend it for the first time through the game, since its already pretty easy on the standard difficulty.

[Anonymous No.2015332]

>>2011069
>I can never replay SO2 because I have to keep restarting until I get dexterity so I can get Mischief/Sprite's Bracelet
>Also I have to keep referring to PA faqs

[Anonymous No.2015890]

>>2014612
Pickpocketing is only important if you want the first half of the game to be a cakewalk. It evens out on the second disk and you dont have any particular advantage over if you did have pickpocket.

Plus getting the skill points to max "perseverance" first (lower sp needed for all skills) and immediately after that,maxing poker face and courage to actually have a good steal rate is very time consuming.

Stop worrying about games so much. A first playthrough of a game is to be enjoyed on your own pace, not dictated by a guide. Grow some balls.

[Anonymous No.2016109]

What level is recommended for the final boss with the limiter off?

I'm on the default difficulty.

[poor No.2016205]

>>2015890
the disc 1 is a cakewalk if you don't bother to use any of the magic-users except rena, and get ashton and operah.

bowman can be good for chaining combos but requires lot of training to be useful. also useless normal attack.

[poor No.2016212]

>>2015332
PAs are totally optional unless you really want to turn off that limiter, and pretend you're playing romance-sim.

and i guess there's one PA that makes precis less shit, if you have ashton with her.

[Anonymous No.2016340]

>>2016109

Probably 255.

He's a piece of shit no matter what difficulty you fight him on.

[Anonymous No.2016480]

>>2016109
200+ for Claude, everyone else in your main party 160+, maybe. Basically finish the Cave of Trials first and you'll be ready.

[Anonymous No.2016494]

>>2016205
>and get ashton and operah.

you can't get ashton AND operah you have to choose one or the other

[Anonymous No.2016506]

>>2016212
Playing romance-sim was one of the main reasons to play this back in the day.

[Anonymous No.2016527]

>>2014524

I bet the game as a retarded kid, there's no min maxing necessary, and there is a shitload of optional content that exists just to make the game easier. There are swords that trivialize 90% of the game that you can acquire in the first disc if you know what to do.

With that said, the gameplay is dated. If you didn't care for the story or characters enough to ignore the gameplay, you won't care about them the second time around.

[Anonymous No.2018142]

>>2014524
>I was overwhelmed by the min-maxing
Seriously bro? Putting a few easily gained skill points into Kitchen Knife and watching the enemies drop like flies really doesn't count as minmaxing.

[Anonymous No.2018260]

OP here

Beat the CoT, Iseria Queen, and Indalecio

Pretty easy fights with the Bloody Armor on, but Indalecio sure was irritating. It's like fighting those stupid witch enemies but with millions more HP

[Anonymous No.2018268]

>>2014524
This was my first RPG as a kid, played it to death. I beat Indalecio with his limiter removed when I was 8.

A lobotomized fetus could beat this game on normal without thought, so I have to ask: What the fuck were you doing?

[Anonymous No.2019962]

>>2011159

Bit dissapointed nobody got the reference. Makes me suspicious that anyone here has played it.

[Anonymous No.2019993]

>>2019962
-20points

[Anonymous No.2020235]

I played Second Story several times, but never to completion. I got damn near the end of the game last time before I just set it aside.

Time to remedy this.

[Anonymous No.2021139]

>>2019962
Yeah, Claude's soundclip during Ripper Blast. I hear it properly though.

[Anonymous No.2021473]

Playing on the hardest difficulty with rena as your character, so you can get claude dias and ashton all on the same team, is the only way to go.

[Anonymous No.2021510]

>>2021473
>Dias

Meh. I'd rather have Bowman.

[Anonymous No.2024338]

OP here

Damn, I missed out on hella good endings

The only good thing I got was Claude making a babby with Rena

[Anonymous No.2024383]

One of the most interesting ways to play the game is with Claude and Rena as your only characters

There's an entire bonus segment where Rena beams up onto Claude's dad's ship at the end of the Expel arc that you will never see otherwise. You can even steal a copy of one of the game's best armors that way. Beating Indalecio without his limiter under these conditions is probably impossible though.

as for Indalecio without his limiter, I believe I beat him with Claude, Rena, Dias, and Precis, with Precis spamming, surprisingly, the attack where she kicks Bobot like a soccer ball, while Claude and Rena were on Auto-battle and Dias was the main damage dealer, using Hawk Scream Blast, which is also kind of surprisingly one of the strongest attacks in the game, from the way it will hit multiple times during its start up if you wedge him in behind the enemy while the other characters knock the enemy back into him so it keeps hitting instead of knocking the enemy away from him. (HSB is so strong it does 9999 pretty much every hit, and can hit 4 or more times when you're doing it right)

[Anonymous No.2024401]

>>2024383
But you can steal that armor with Claude. He was my pickpocketer.

I forgot about the armor though when I was there. Whatever though, Bloody Armor worked for bosses.

[Anonymous No.2024406]

>>2024338

I got that one and Leon and Noel broing up at the end.

[Anonymous No.2024979]

>>2021473
Dias actually ends up as one of the worst characters. He is strong granted but his moves are ineffective and dont have the useful stunlocking properties. Plus a lot of them are sloooooow

[Anonymous No.2025694]

>>2024979
He has the bizarre niche of being a high power long ranged swordsman. The only way to make him really useful against the super hard universe mode bosses is to use him in the way I described, but when you do that he ends up being pretty great.