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Anonymous Mon Sep 29 13:51:25 2014 No.1972991 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.cracked.com/article_21648_6-video-games-that-put-insane-detail-into-stuff-you-missed.html

>the redeads in ocarina of time mourn dead redeads

Holy shit, this game has so many secrets it's not even funny. Every time I feel like there's nothing more to discover, I always learn something new.

Look at this cool one I recently learned: the spooky mask glows at night

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 14:10:02 2014 No.1973018 >>1972991 I just learned two new things about OOT I thought I knew everything about that game, but nope. I'll never know everything. You can learn a lot about oot by watching commentated speed runs of it (100% ones especially)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 14:18:49 2014 No.1973039 >>1973018 But Egoraptor told me not to like it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 14:22:49 2014 No.1973043 Goodness gracious how many gifs on one page does that website need I can barely even navigate it Cool tidbit though

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:07:17 2014 No.1973104 >>1972991 >no mention of NetHack welp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:12:06 2014 No.1973113 File: 1.06 MB, 1321x477, dodongoroom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] secret room in dodongo's cavern behind the lava waterfall

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:14:33 2014 No.1973117 >>1973039 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:23:17 2014 No.1973138 >>1973113 what's the point of this room? one heart? they should've put something cooler in there also, i find it interested how dodongo's cavern is the only dungeon that is worth going back to as an adult (for a gold skulltula)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:23:45 2014 No.1973141 >>1973117 This.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:39:36 2014 No.1973171 >>1973138 I was perfectly fine with not having to go back inside Jabu Jabu. I'm squeamish when it comes to seeing real, live guts so fuck that place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:48:11 2014 No.1973191 >>1973104 >thinking a shitty clickbait site is going to talk about games that their audience hasn't hear of

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 15:58:26 2014 No.1973205 >>1973138 It's the only dungeon you can go back to as an adult.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 16:05:29 2014 No.1973215 File: 357 KB, 641x480, ganon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1973138 >what's the point of this room? Just to be cool Also, secret room in ganon's castle

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 16:48:52 2014 No.1973302 >>1973215 I don't think I've ever seen that. Where is that room?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 16:54:11 2014 No.1973309 The circlejerk for this game never ends. I won't lie in saying that the praise this game gets upsets me because I find it so boring and unplayable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 16:58:25 2014 No.1973319 Damn, learn something new every day I guess. When did Cracked become so shitty? Nearly all the articles they do nowadays are "# things I learned as x" or annoying, unresearched flavor of the month soapboxing

Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:06:41 2014 No.1973340
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>>1973309
>sharing secrets like the olden days
>circlejerk
The only thing that upsets me is ignorant people like you who think everyone liking a game you don't is unacceptable. Even if it isn't being touted as the BESTEST GAME EVUR by a bunch of dumb fanboys anymore doesn't mean most people don't agree it's a fine game nonetheless.

If you want to discuss YOUR favorite game, make your own thread about it. And if it's a game I don't particularly care for, I won't come in and whine about nobody ever shutting up about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:07:17 2014 No.1973341 >>1973319 This last year it's just been ridiculous. I think they've done 3 articles on "23 epicest reasons everyone supporting gamersgate is a shitlord ever"

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:10:00 2014 No.1973349 >>1973340 I think he's talking about the fact that there are always multiple OoT threads on /vr/, most of them being along the lines of WHAT IS THE BEST GAME AND WHY IS IT OOT? bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:17:20 2014 No.1973367 >>1973302 It's behind a fake wall at the bottom of the center tower, in the room with the temple symbol doors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:24:48 2014 No.1973379 >The ReDeads are also one of the few formerly human enemies you face Aren't ReDeads actually just clay dolls Ganondorf made?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:25:37 2014 No.1973381 It took me 8 years to find out about the mask stage in the Lost Woods

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:52:51 2014 No.1973427 >>1973319 Cracked's money comes from clicks. Being a SJW is perhaps the fad of the moment. Do the math.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 20:17:32 2014 No.1973658 >>1973117 >>1973141 Sorry but I like it here and I think I'm gonna stay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 21:04:00 2014 No.1973761 >>1973379 It's inconsistent. Smash Bros. Melee's redead trophy claims they are magic, but a gossip stone in Majora's Mask says they used to be members of a dancing group (which is why they dance when you wear certain masks).

Anonymous Mon Sep 29 22:49:51 2014 No.1973937

>>1973104
The article treats a standard fucking 3D skybox, or one animation that probably took a single employee 15 minutes of his spare time to create, like the second fucking coming. They barely understand even the simplest shit, of course they're not going to dive into NetHack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 23:02:58 2014 No.1973968 >>1973761 Undead in fantasy are usually magic in nature, yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 23:12:53 2014 No.1973984 >>1973968 No, the trophy description says that they aren't actually reborn people, but instead just human like figures created by magic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 23:27:22 2014 No.1974008 >>1972991 I always thought they were eating the dead redead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 00:49:14 2014 No.1974117 >>1973761 Don't forget as well the Majora's Mask ones might be of different origin, like everything else in Termina

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 00:50:30 2014 No.1974124 >>1973761 And also, Smash Bros. Melee's anything trophy isn't exactly canon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 02:45:34 2014 No.1974295 >>1974124 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5e_EkSLW7E&list=LL4HW3T-rOQe8pT4jeLoyVuQ&index=2 made a new video leave feedback

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 03:23:02 2014 No.1974360
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>>1973104
>>1973937
>video spreads around /v/ about the history of roguelikes and the "future of the genre"
>drones on and on about Risk of Rain, Spelunky and Binding of Isaac
>not one mention of Nethack

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 14:19:59 2014 No.1975215 >>1974360 >BoI No plz. They dare call that shit without exploration a roguelike, and people somehow believes them.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 14:54:23 2014 No.1975270

>>1972991
Is that mask glowing or did they just make an error in not darkening its colours when it turns to night.

I've no idea how lighting works in OoT but I assumed it wasn't advanced enough at the time to be dynamic and they instead darkened all the textures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 15:31:27 2014 No.1975324 >>1973104 wtf, this barely even qualifies as a game your guy is an @ symbol? nerds seriously think this is a better game than skyrim Kidding of course, but that's what they would say.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 15:39:58 2014 No.1975341 What's the deal with Ocarina of Time? It seems like there's so much content hidden in it that it's insane. Was this game made by Satan or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 15:39:59 2014 No.1975342 >>1975270 OoT's lighting is kind of dynamic. If you look carefully. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yh1g9B_eBY

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 15:47:32 2014 No.1975357 >>1975341 When I first learnt about the dying soldier a few years back it literally blew my mind. I didn't think there was anything left I didn't know until this thread. Now I'm once again sure there can't be any more secrets, surely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 15:49:45 2014 No.1975359 >>1973319 >When did Cracked become so shitty? The past few years it's only getting worse

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 16:33:16 2014 No.1975417 >>1975357 you know those deku scrubs that attack you? did you know you can make them come out of their flowers by just throwing a deku nut at them? i didnt know that

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 17:10:40 2014 No.1975510 >>1975357 If you haven't beaten the Running Man, there are still secrets.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 17:29:09 2014 No.1975549

>>1973968
A bit ago I remember reading someone had said the Re-deads were magic, which is why when they die they give you mana potions, but magically created - perhaps they too were referring to the clay thing? At any rate, smash bros isn't really canon, as has been said, but also, I just think it makes sense for them to be the reanimated corpses (through magic, obviously) of Hylians who perished - it's clear Hyrule town has become a ruin, and not everyone from childhood found refugee in Kakariko so a few could easily be those who did not manage to escape.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 18:14:09 2014 No.1975626 >>1975417 You can do the same thing with hidden poes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 18:20:21 2014 No.1975636 >>1973039 Back to /v/ you faggot.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 18:24:03 2014 No.1975642

>>1975357
A little while ago I learned of some dekus in lost woods that will upgrade your max number of deku sticks if you talk to them with the right mask on. I'm not talking about the sales deku under the bridge, there are a bunch in a cave that will attack you if you wear anything but a certain mask, though I don't remember which one.

This only works if you haven't become an adult yet, there's a glitch that prevents them from selling the upgrade to you if you've obtained the Master Sword. Going back in time doesn't fix it.

Learned about this on my last playthrough a year or so ago, didn't have any idea about it before then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 18:30:53 2014 No.1975654 >>1975510 Not possible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 18:38:55 2014 No.1975663 File: 150 KB, 620x350, oot-running-man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1975654 >he doesn't know

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 19:04:29 2014 No.1975714

>>1975642
Slight correction here, it's getting the Poacher's Saw as an adult that makes the last Deku Nut capacity upgrade unobtainable that you normally get by showing the Mask of Truth to the Deku Scrubs on the Deku stage. So either get it before gettig the Master Sword or just don't advance in the trade sequence too much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 19:10:13 2014 No.1975725 >>1975663 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 19:13:29 2014 No.1975730 >>1973039 it feels good to post this again, whether you're kidding or not

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 19:16:33 2014 No.1975737 >>1973367 I've found that one before actually, isn't it full of deku who will restock you on sticks/nuts/arrows/etc. so you don't have to leave the castle to get them?

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 19:21:11 2014 No.1975749

>>1975341
I think it was because of the game being so very ambitious. The game was worked on for many years, longer than most games in that time period, and Miyamoto seemed to think that a device like the N64 could do anything, and really aimed to push beyond any limits that had existed with console games in the past. In the end, the system just wasn't able to handle all of his ideas. The original plans for Zelda 64 are so far beyond what we got that it really makes me wonder what we would have gotten if Miyamoto could have somehow been able to work with the energy he had in the 90s but on more powerful hardware. I think we may have seen a Zelda game far more amazing than what we got with OoT.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 19:46:05 2014 No.1975785 in hexen, after you get the fire key, the pool of water freezes after a little while. in secret of mana, rabites low on health run from you, and they cower when cornered.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 22:24:56 2014 No.1976042 >>1974360 >>1975215 its /v/. they don't know anything about video games

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 23:19:42 2014 No.1976130 >>1975663 I remember that video. I also remember the video explaining how it was done. TEXT INJECTOR

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 23:20:51 2014 No.1976136 >>1972991 Looks like they just forgot to apply lighting code on it, so it stays the same brightness no matter where it is.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 23:36:54 2014 No.1976156
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>>1972991
It's not glowing, it's just a trick of the eyes. Pic related.
The mask isn't changing because it's not having the changes to the environment lighting applied to it. Probably a bug.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 15:47:31 2014 No.1977176 >>1972991 The stuff about Batman and Animal Crossing is really great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 16:42:52 2014 No.1977263 >>1973340 >The Pols Voice kill adventurers which then become the Stalfos you fight Holy guacamole

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 16:56:04 2014 No.1977283 Things you noticed while you played games*

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:06:41 2014 No.1977298 >>1972991 >>1974008 This. They're not mourning their dead, they're eating them. Since they're mindless zombies that eat anything on sight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:07:17 2014 No.1977302 >>1976156 I appreciate the insight, but I'm not sure how "reflecting more light than the environment has" and "glowing" are not the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:16:31 2014 No.1977318 >>1975761 Ugh, people were paid money for those.

Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:35:09 2014 No.1977358

>>1973319
It's been several years of articles with alluring titles that are actually filled with inane garbage and unresearched "facts." Not to mention that the human perspective ones are mostly fiction.

By the way OP, the article is shit, and the redead thing is something any idiot could discover. Don't get me wrong, I love OoT to death, but all the secrets of it have been discovered and any fan will know about them. Please actually post relevant shit next time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:37:52 2014 No.1977363 This one impressed me http://kotaku.com/13-years-later-a-new-final-fantasy-ix-quest-has-been-d-510041775

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:50:16 2014 No.1977386 >>1975761 You also forgot the "X reasons you can tell your cause is bullshit" which was all about 'gate. So, 4 articles bitching about that, and another whining about "problematic" videogame storytelling.

Anonymous Wed Oct 1 17:55:26 2014 No.1977395

>>1975749
I think this is precisely what was missing from the newer games. Too much emphasis on aping OoT, without the drive to go above what is expected of a Zelda title, or a game in general. Not to say they're bad games, but beyond their flaws (and believe me, they have plenty, as did OoT), there just isn't that feeling of a game that strived to push the envelope, whether it actually succeeded or not. Miyamoto was not able to implement everything he would have liked back then, but you can tell from the little details that damn it, he tried as hard as he could to cram as much as possible into the game.

I'm really hoping the next Zelda game delivers in this aspect. At least from what little has been talked about (jokes about YOU SEE THAT MOUNTAIN aside), it at least seems like they're actually trying something different AND ambitious at once. Not really holding my breath, of course, but the old Zelda fanboy in me can't help but hope.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 18:06:59 2014 No.1977419 >>1977395 I think Windwaker was the last truly ambitious Zelda. Skyward sword was an experiment, but it wasn't what I'd call ambitious. All the handheld games have been coasting since Awakening too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 18:46:42 2014 No.1977492 >>1977386 Yeah those are just the ones on the front page under vidya. I think they have 5 in total.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 18:55:34 2014 No.1977516 >>1975636 >Using the word faggot as an insult >Telling somebody else to go back to /v/ Irony.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:05:44 2014 No.1978061 >>1977395 Blame Aonuma, making it more ambitious would interfere with his goal of turning Zelda into a text-adventure with a graphical interface.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:23:55 2014 No.1978095 >>1977363 I'm not autistic enough to replay my game just for a fucking ring. I am however autistic enough to do the lvl 1 challenge and the Excalibur 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:25:21 2014 No.1978097 >>1977419 Wind Waker would have been truly the greatest Zelda if it wasn't rushed. The Tri force quest was supposed to be huge instead of just a "Sail here" shit fest

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:26:46 2014 No.1978105

>>1978061
I honestly don't know what his deal is. He directed both Majora's Mask and Wind Waker, and while they have their issues, not only did they try different things (Majora's Mask especially, despite reusing a ton of assets), but they still had that shred of ambition missing from the newer titles.

After that, it's like they stopped trying. Twilight Princess did not do much of anything different at all and just felt like a tryhard attempt to outdo OoT purely in scale and epicness, while missing many of the small little details that made the older games so endearing and engrossing.

Skyward Sword... I don't even know. Actually, Aonuma didn't direct that one IIRC. Regardless, it did try some new things, but some of the changes were for the worse, particularly the extreme linearity and handholding. And like >>1977419 said, it didn't feel like it had much ambition outside the Wiimote+ stuff.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:27:04 2014 No.1978106

Unfortunately it's canon that the Redeads aren't actually reanimated corpses and are just monsters like everything else. Though I suppose that wouldn't keep guys like Koizumi from trying to imply they were zombies anyway. It actually looks more to me like it's eating the other one, since it disappears right after the animation.

>>1973215
Wait if that's the room I'm thinking of isn't it not more secret than any other room? I remember hitting up that place every time I've played the game, and just from restumbling into it.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:34:04 2014 No.1978119

You know, with the power of the WiiU, would it not be possible NOW to do a bunch of the things Miyamoto talked about doing way back with OoT, particularly with Ura Zelda? Didn't he want some crazy shit like having your footsteps marked permanently on the ground you cover? Also allowing players to create their own dungeons and such?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:36:42 2014 No.1978128

>>1978061
>>1978105
I don't like to blame single people for flaws in games, but it really is Aonuma, or more importantly, the lack of Miyamoto and Koizumi.

Miyamoto does very few hands on things nowadays and usually just kind of gives pointers, but when he really does a game like Pikmin 3 it's fucking awesome.

Koizumi is a fucking genius and even though all of the Mario games and Jungle Beat have been the absolute best designed games in years, I really wish his talents could be spread out a bit more.

Aonuma isn't bad he just lacks the vision of guys like Miyamoto and clings to tradition a bit much.

Really I think the biggest problem with Nintendo's internal studios right now is that they've spent years training a ton of people in Miyamotoism but the old guys like Aonuma, Sakamoto, and Konno run the show and probably dominate the input.

They really should just do a shuffle, with Koizumi on Zelda, Aonuma on Metroid, and Sakamoto on Mario maybe.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:45:19 2014 No.1978142

>>1978128
>Sakamoto on anything post M:OM

I can give Aonuma a break despite his recent lack of drive to innovate, as his games are still decent to good, but I don't think I can forgive Sakamoto for Other M. He didn't just get tired like Miyamoto or became a square like Aonuma. He straight up bastardized and butchered his own series. He's straight up mental, and like George Lucas, needs to be put in check by others.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:50:47 2014 No.1978148

>>1978128
Aonuma's biggest problem is that he is a wuss, and his wussiness is plaguing the Zelda series. He found the first Zelda game too hard to complete.

His favorite games are literally text adventure games you can slowly do at your own pace, diametrically opposite to fast hardcore arcade action like Zelda 2.

This is why combat in every Zelda game is getting easier, this is why there are more lame puzzles, this is why there are more shitty annoying NPCs like Tingle.

If the producer of the series doesn't "get" the original game, how can they make competent sequels?

Also, ever since Aonuma got his hands on the series, it's been having a serious and real decline in sales (even worse when you consider the expanding gaming audience).

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:52:15 2014 No.1978149 >>1975749 We could have seen something amazing. But it could have easily gone the other way. Turing this hypothetical OoT into a long, tedious, jumbled mess. The parts might be good but they might not fit together well.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:52:49 2014 No.1978151

>>1977419
Skyward Sword was okay. Didn't push any boundaries, but it was a beautiful game. The expressiveness of characters was fun. I guess it just didn't feel very Zelda... the lore didn't interest me, it wanted to be pretty cute all the time rather than make you emote throughout the game, it felt like a bunch of different things mashed together rather than a unified world with a unified plot-thread.

>>1978119
Making your own dungeon would be crazy, but I'd love for them to create a new expansive world. Let them make new races, new politics, a new world order, and new lore... but retain the medieval themes and whimsy. I'm kind of exhausted by the weird directions so many Zelda games have gone. Maybe make it about Zelda, even... she could travel to a new kingdom to save Link, or maybe to discover him.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:55:30 2014 No.1978154

>>1975749
I don't think that OoT meeting all of its ambitious was because the N64 couldn't handle it, plop in the Expansion Pak and suddenly the N64 has more RAM than it can make real use of, and if you want to do shit like extra features like footprints on the ground then you really just need more RAM.

The real problem was that it was the early days of 3D and programming the machine took a really long time.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:55:58 2014 No.1978157

>>1978148
Ugh, fuck excessive puzzles. Yes, I enjoy using my mind in a zelda game. No, I do not enjoy moving a bunch of shit around, or going on endless errands, or exhausting myself step by step by step on what becomes more difficult by its tediousness than its difficulty.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 00:59:10 2014 No.1978159

>>1978154
>>1978149
I don't even think it would have been commercially successful. People don't *usually* buy into extras, minis, expansions... they'll mostly just wait for a sequel if they're obsessed. Each Zelda game is too self-contained and the stuff they wanted was really better suited to another game.

Wait, why didn't they do something after MM again? Because MM was too hard and turned people off of Zelda?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 01:00:41 2014 No.1978163 >>1978119 Miyamoto is old, tired, already has plenty of money, and probably gets plenty more just giving out small pointers here and there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 01:03:07 2014 No.1978170 >>1978148 Why not get Aonuma on making a new IP that's a text adventure game then? Wouldn't the WiiU gamepad be perfect for something like that?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 01:20:56 2014 No.1978207

>>1978119
>>1978154
I thought the problem was that cartridges didn't have enough writable storage. The expansion pack gives you more RAM while playing, but you have to save that somewhere. Miyamoto needed the 64DD to make it happen. Disks were 64 MB of writable memory. The largest save memory on a cartridge was only 128 KB.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 02:00:46 2014 No.1978267 File: 67 KB, 356x248, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1975654 You can beat the running man. It just doesn't happen in Ocarina of Time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 02:02:16 2014 No.1978270 >>1976156 Not /vr/ but something similar happened in Animal Crossing City Folk with the Majora's Mask. The eyes lighting didn't change which gave it the illusion of glowing. It was creepy.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 05:06:45 2014 No.1978423

>>1978207
Well that probably too. Although 64MB cartridges were eventually possible, but not in 1998.

I think a lot of people also don't realize how much of the N64's problems were simply down to misfortune due to RAM/ROM prices skyrocketing after a series of unfortunate earthquakes around production areas in the mid-late 90s.

When Nintendo were designing the console, they were extrapolating the present trend of ROM prices going down so they did not foresee any real storage problems with the N64 in the long-term, but that never happened.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 06:39:51 2014 No.1978485

>>1978119
One of the problems is that all the cut content from past Zeldas have been reused in other games already. The Light Temple in Twilight Princess was originally meant to be in OoT, that entire game was based on the original vision.

The cut temples from Wind Waker were reused in Skyward Sword. The Mogma race from SS was supposed to appear in WW as far as I know.

One of the problems with Zelda now is people focus too much on the timeline crap. There never was a Timeline until around 2002, then they've tried to fit every game around this to please the fans and they lose sight of the important bits of the games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 06:57:44 2014 No.1978498 >>1975341 a throwback to the first two Zeldas where secrets were cryptic as fuck to find thankfully they spared the main quest from this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 07:23:17 2014 No.1978526 >>1973340 Well fuck, that's the first time I've seen a non-8-bit Pols Voice. I always thought they were like a bunny, that's fucking terrifying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 07:31:44 2014 No.1978535 >>1974360 What video is that?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 07:34:20 2014 No.1978536
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>>1977395

It seemed like they're still pandering to Shadow of The Colossus and the indie crowd, like they did with TP. The art-style and gaming mechanics really hint to that.

IMHO they should revert to what made Zelda game a Zelda game. A gritty adventure. Fuck it still bothers me that they fail time and time again to combine all the best elements from each Zelda into a coherent experience. I mean I get that Nintendo devs would like to try their hands at something new and original, but come on, your source material that inspired Zelda is anything but, instead the games end up being forced into something that they are not meant to be.

why devs try so hard to get away from Fairytale, Legends and Myth origins and invent some new identity is beyond me. It comes off like a gay hybrid frankenstein of what's trendy now and whatever devs thought would be funny through their warped japanese thought processes. None of the legends of Zelda after OoT actually feel legendary (MM is whacky as fuck). Especially not kiddy crap like Alttp, and its gameboy spawns or the Disney shit WW and its horrible derivatives. Certainly not highschool drama.

Actual legends are filled with moral dilemmas and heroes strife. Actual fairy tales are dark as fuck. Myth are filled with bloodthirsty, man eating creatures. They are not PC filtered shit that we see today being served up on a plate. This is what gameplay is supposed to portray and did successfully in the first few iterations, before being swallowed whole by gameplay gimmicks and eye scorching over saturation. It's like Ninty doesn't want my money.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 07:36:36 2014 No.1978538
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>>1975761
I just want the stupid pop culture trivia lists like they used to do all the time. Did they get a new head person or something? If I didn't know about Cracked before it turned into that I would have called someone crazy that it started as a ripoff of MAD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 07:41:58 2014 No.1978546 >>1977516 Literally every board on this site uses the word faggot as an insult.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 08:04:03 2014 No.1978569 >>1973117 >>1975636 You guys know that even /v/ shits on egoraptor's "opinion", right?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 08:19:16 2014 No.1978573

>>1978536
>Fuck it still bothers me that they fail time and time again to combine all the best elements from each Zelda into a coherent experience.
Last time Nintendo tried to do that with a series we got Fire Emblem Awakening. And that game feels so hollow because it does nothing interesting that hasn't been done before.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 08:26:44 2014 No.1978576 >>1978536 >A gritty adventure. stopped reading there

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 08:41:10 2014 No.1978590 >>1978106 >Unfortunately it's canon that the Redeads Not doubting you, but where do you find that out? Is it gossip stoned or anything?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 08:47:40 2014 No.1978593

>>1978485
>One of the problems with Zelda now is people focus too much on the timeline crap. There never was a Timeline until around 2002, then they've tried to fit every game around this to please the fans and they lose sight of the important bits of the games.
I think because of the timeline everything is revolving around the master sword and the past of Hyrule, when really it needs to just move away from those ideals so it can have more creative freedom to try new ideas. I think MM is a good example of this - it has got some good unique ideas, the problem was it was rushed, if they could have been expanded on more I think it would have gotten a better reception.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 10:15:40 2014 No.1978673 >>1977176 Do explain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 11:05:52 2014 No.1978735 >>1978573 yeah, maybe they already put their best ideas to practice

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 11:34:24 2014 No.1978765 >>1975761 >5 things I learned as the Internet's most hated person I don't see anything wro- Oh

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 12:13:03 2014 No.1978795

>>1978485
>One of the problems with Zelda now is people focus too much on the timeline crap. There never was a Timeline until around 2002, then they've tried to fit every game around this to please the fans and they lose sight of the important bits of the games

Oh please. There was plenty of evidence and actual statements regarding a timeline since Zelda II and ALttP. What is kinda dumb is how every game since OoT (the console ones at least) pretty much revolved around OoT story-wise. Regardless, the timeline isn't the big issue with Zelda. Aonuma and co. getting stuck in a creative rut is what has been doing the series in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 13:02:14 2014 No.1978873 >>1978765 Spoiler alert, she didn't learn anything worth noting.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 15:00:28 2014 No.1979126

>>1975761
>Luke McKinney

Isn't that the same guy who wrote an article on "5 ways the comics industry is totally sexist" and then immediately wrote a follow-up, "5 kinds of sexist commenters that are total virgin losers"? I'll never forget just how incredibly, jaw droppingly petty and childish that was.
How the fuck is that man still on the payroll? Why is there another SJW asslick on there now? What the fuck happened to cracked?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 16:41:12 2014 No.1979261

>>1979126

>How the fuck is that man still on the payroll? Why is there another SJW asslick on there now? What the fuck happened to cracked?

Clicks. Write something that will enrage people and get clicks. Wait for the inevitable hate mail and then write about how you're scared for your life and get more clicks.

Personally i think this thread has run its course, this is more GG and a bit /pol/ than OoT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 19:53:33 2014 No.1979691 >>1976156 still rad as fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 20:04:13 2014 No.1979721 >>1978873 Found the Redpiller

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