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What's happenin' /vr/?

I have to write a 10 page argumentative paper on a subject of my choosing, but it has to be a subject that was relevant during the 1980's.

I've chosen to argue that if Nintendo had not brought it's strict policy in game development to North America, the already saturated market would not have bounced back and we probably wouldn't see what video games are today.

I really don't see much of an argument there, or at least one I can span a ten page paper on. But, this is the subject I've decided on, and the "Nintendo saved the day" novelty is where I'm staying.

So, does /vr/ have any sources I can put to use, or whatever? I'm just starting my research, and my thesis statement isn't getting much better.

>> No.1971185

>>1971123
what a shitty topic. where the fuck are you going to find reliable sources for that paper. change topics you autist

>> No.1971252

>>1971123
>the already saturated market would not have bounced back and we probably wouldn't see what video games are today.

We probably wouldn't. We'd see different or better ones.

It's a good thing it's an essay because anyone who knows shit about that time period would laugh your silly ass away. There was never not going to be a bounce back and gaming were coming up with PCs and the industry was basically redistributing itself. Nintendo didn't do anything but have good timing on releasing a new novelty system that looked better than the competition.

>> No.1971294

I guess to start off with, you should probably spend a couple pages outlining the basic policy Nintendo had as far as licensing, minimum cartridge production, ect and how it's been considered manipulative or intended to profit Nintendo more than the game developers. Include some shit about Nintendo's falling out with Sony and subsequent market-share loss in the late '90s. But then bring it back by analysing the video game market crash of '83, how that was caused, and how Nintendo's policies set up a stable game market for the next 30 years despite being so extreme.

>> No.1971310

>>1971185
instead of throwing off base slander at someone asking for advice, why not be helpful.. and maybe not post because you clearly don't have a fucking clue about what autism is.
i've found a book, and couple online resources that can be used so far. get off it

>> No.1971316

>>1971310
Good luck. And no I'm not that guy.

>> No.1971317

Read up about it by examining the sources that went into the wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_video_game_crash_of_1983

>> No.1971319

>>1971294
brilliant. half of my outline so far has been about Nintendo's third party policies and it's controversial strict methodology during that period. I haven't even touched the fall out between Sony and Nintendo.. Never even knew there was one. Thank's anon.

>> No.1971326

>>1971294
>>1971319
>I haven't even touched the fall out between Sony and Nintendo.
Which didn't happen till the 90s.

>> No.1971330

>>1971317
That's been the starting point really. Need to go a bit deeper though, because a lot of it is based on Atari and their loose use of distributing.
I can use that for about a couple of pages.

>> No.1971331

>>1971310

Ninty stole dk from coleco

>> No.1971339

>>1971326
As long as the essay begins with the 80s, ends with the 80s, and everything in between can be related. Time period of supporting topics doesn't matter greatly.

>> No.1971342

Why are you doing homework? Why are you going to school? School is just another word for prison. And while you're there they brainwash you into thinking that it's all for your own good, that it's an opportunity for you to become something better, when in reality you're just being trained to think and behave like a productive and obedient slave.

Wake up, think for yourself, and take back your life!

>> No.1971349

>>1971339
I don't think Sony did anything with Nintendo till the snes. Pretty bug stretch.

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>>1971342

>> No.1971382
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>>1971123
>I have to write a 10 page argumentative paper

>> No.1971392

Nintendo didn't save they day, they killed gaming by making consoles win. Home computers and arcades were doing fine without them. We'd have much better games today if consoles hadn't succeeded and dumbed down people's expectations.

>> No.1971397

>>1971342
>Wake up, think for yourself, and take back your life!
>says the fag vegetating on /vr/
even if that was satire, I'm sure you live illustrious colourful days breathing in all the zests of life as you propel yourself through them and reach for the sky

>> No.1971403

>>1971392
Ya Atari did a great fucking job in the PC market...

>> No.1971573

>>1971392
they saved the day as it were with home consoles. that's the subject of my paper.
I'll bring up arcade games, and pc too. but when it's threaded down to home consoles during the 1980s, Nintendo revived the industry as it were.

but.. your point is there somewhat.. and I can use it, since i'm slowly but steadily being swayed toward "if it weren't for Nintendo, advances in computer tech could have grown significantly, much earlier than history provides"

wait no fuck that.

>> No.1971593

>>1971123
I have a better idea for a paper.

Argue that E.T. for the Atari 2600 wasn't actually terrible game. Argue that it only earned that reputation and "killed console gaming" because it was too complex for people at the time to understand.

I'm serious. Look through the AtariAge forums and you'll see many people echo this opinion. Also take a look at this (I know, Polygon, but it's worth a read): http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/3/5775026/e-t-myth-worst-game-ever

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>>1971342
looks like /pol/ is leaking again

>> No.1971596

>>1971593
it's down on the whiteboard anon. back up plans. always good to have back up plans

>> No.1971798

This is the funny thing. Nintendo pretty much made third party development of software into a mainstream idea, as opposed to having the games ported in-house. Atari wasn't fond of anyone that wasn't Atari making games for their consoles, which explains why companies like Activision were formed.

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>>1971123
Nintendid what Ataridon't

>> No.1971820

>>1971123
Modern games have nothing to do with consoles of the 80s. They're more related to PC gaming of the 80s, if anything.

>> No.1971893

>>1971820
it's a little drastic to use "nothing." equal parts is more like it

>> No.1971897

>>1971342
What could anyone do? Go back to being a caveman or something?

>> No.1971905

>>1971310
>using non-peer reviewed sources.

absolte pleb.

also

>you clearly don't have a fucking clue about what autism is

please let me know all about it