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collector kirby Thu Sep 18 01:46:37 2014 No.1946543 [Reply] [Original]

mother1/mother2/mother3 thread and for usa fags
earthbound zero/earthbound/earthbound 3

>>	collector kirby Thu Sep 18 01:47:06 2014 No.1946545 *eathbound 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:12:47 2014 No.1946561 File: 58 KB, 300x300, vr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Awesome, we never get Earthbound threads here on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:29:09 2014 No.1946575 I actually just finished Earthbound for the first time a few days ago and it was absolutely great. The end boss fight might be one of the greatest fights in video game. Shit is 2spooky4me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:34:18 2014 No.1946584 >>1946561 Two of my favorite things.. Lovely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:41:12 2014 No.1946586 >>1946584 I get why people like EB but I will never understand why people can tolerate even for a second that douchey college strumfuck shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:47:22 2014 No.1946591 Mother 1 remake yet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:51:53 2014 No.1946596 File: 23 KB, 600x378, Stuff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ness, I'm UFO.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 02:55:17 2014 No.1946603 >>1946543 >earthbound 3 Wouldn't that be Earthbound 2? :p

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 03:24:56 2014 No.1946640 >>1946591 http://earthboundcentral.com/2014/07/mother-remake-hack-coming-along-nicely/ it's coming along nicely

>>	collector kirby Thu Sep 18 03:25:09 2014 No.1946641 >>1946575 3spooky5u

>>	collector kirby Thu Sep 18 03:27:35 2014 No.1946650 >>1946640 it will happen >sponge bob tile card 10 years later it will happen soon! >40 years later it will happen right? >10 years later >dead

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 03:43:52 2014 No.1946659 >>1946641 quality post :^)

Anonymous Thu Sep 18 04:02:49 2014 No.1946670
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>>1946545
>>1946603

Op is actually right. The game you are all refering to as Earthbound and Mother 2 is actually Earthbound 2. While what you are refering to as Earthbound 2 and Mother 3 is actually Earthbound 3. I don't own Earthbound 2, or 3, but I do own the original Earthbound on the NES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 04:19:56 2014 No.1946689 >>1946670 I loved the second and third games, but I hated the first one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 10:05:51 2014 No.1946948 >>1942540

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 20:04:38 2014 No.1948297 >>1946689 What is wrong with the first game? Other than the grinding, but it was an RPG made in 1989 and while Sweet Home got also made in 1989, you have to keep in mind Mother aimed to play just about your average Dragon Quest clone

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 20:14:26 2014 No.1948316 >earthbound game is "impossible" (hinting at it being the failing economy of nintendo) >making a starfox game >no new earthbound or metroid okay

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 20:54:36 2014 No.1948446 >>1948316 >starfox is a tiny downloadable title >metroid is still recovering from other M fucking up the series >earthbound died with Itoi It's not like they're trying to spite you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 21:26:36 2014 No.1948542 >>1946561 Yes to this

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 21:29:25 2014 No.1948549 File: 2.46 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1946561

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 21:30:31 2014 No.1948551 >>1948316 What are you trying to say?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 21:32:12 2014 No.1948556 >>1948551 Starfox wont help them financially, a new Metroid def would and a new Earthbound/Mother title probably would do just the same if not better than a Starfox title. Either way, why Starfox

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 22:13:26 2014 No.1948715 >>1948549 I love you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 18 22:28:43 2014 No.1948764 I liked it better when it was called Dragon Quest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 01:28:46 2014 No.1949168 >>1948549 >image.jpg and you're also a Mac user. 10/10 hipster cred.

Anonymous Fri Sep 19 01:32:16 2014 No.1949172

>>1946543
>Earthbound Zero
'Zero' was a suffix added by a group of no-talent hackers who decided the world would get confused if an NES game named EarthBound would come out. "EarthBound Zero" should not ever be considered when referring to the NES title. Say Mother 1 or EarthBound (NES) or don't say anything at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 01:35:07 2014 No.1949179 >>1948297 I don't know man, I just didn't really like it, that's all. I think last thing I did on the game was getting Teddy to join the party.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 01:43:55 2014 No.1949196 File: 45 KB, 640x480, HNI_0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1949179 >quitting the game after getting best party member

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 01:53:16 2014 No.1949214 Guys is >>1948847 a good deal?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 02:12:15 2014 No.1949250 >>1946586 I didn't like it at first. I though it was super bad because my faggot friends hyped it, but it turns out it'll grow on you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 02:35:06 2014 No.1949280 >>1949172 Boy, I bet you're a hoot at parties.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 02:55:21 2014 No.1949321 >>1948556 >a new Earthbound/Mother title probably would do just the same But Mother is an itoi game, and he's done with the series.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 03:02:56 2014 No.1949336 ive hac earthbound come alot recently but i've been discourged because along time ago i got kinda far and then my computer erased itself should i give it another go? or should i just play another rpg

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 03:12:06 2014 No.1949351 >>1949336 Give it another go. Don't get discouraged if you find yourself in a rough spot. A bit of grinding should help you out if need be. Also, don't forget to explore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 03:26:40 2014 No.1949361 >>1946596 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 03:43:55 2014 No.1949389 >>1949250 I hope that like me one day you'll realize how completely retarded it is and move on to music that is actually good

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 04:11:57 2014 No.1949459 File: 82 KB, 357x500, 1510884.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] M2 with M3's gameplay would be so much better.

Anonymous Fri Sep 19 05:12:16 2014 No.1949531

>>1946640
I hope they do finish because I quit part way through Mother 1. It's a bit too grindy and the stat level up are all over the fucking map. Some times I get massive bonus to all stats other times 1 HP. Earthbound had that kind of but a couple of levels they balance out. Mother 1 however doesn't have that balance. It just have random stat growth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 12:09:11 2014 No.1949913 File: 199 KB, 480x309, Proud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time to upload this screenshot so I can grab it elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 12:16:09 2014 No.1949919 >>1948446 Itoi is dead? poor sick fucker...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 12:22:13 2014 No.1949930 Jesus christ this thread is full of faggotry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 14:52:00 2014 No.1950195 >>1949531 play the gba version and use the exp ring

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 14:53:19 2014 No.1950196 >>1949389 no soul confirmed

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 15:04:21 2014 No.1950220 File: 2.49 MB, 3880x1184, 20140919_135702-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1949196 Nice figure, yo.

Anonymous Fri Sep 19 15:37:47 2014 No.1950315

>>1949531
I bet it will be done in like 6 months. All that is left is some of the ASM hacking, doing the maps for the interiors of some buildings and adjusting the stats of the characters/items/monsters.
They've already finished the overworld maps and dungeons, music, sprites, some of the ASM, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 15:39:00 2014 No.1950321 >>1949919 >>1948446 hahahaha, oh shit, I can't believe I didn't realize what I was implying with that. No, Itoi's alive, I meant it died with him leaving the gaming industry. Sorry about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 16:35:34 2014 No.1950471 >>1950220 I ended up accidentally breaking these by walking into my shelf. I am a moron.

Anonymous Fri Sep 19 16:37:47 2014 No.1950475

I really don't want to go too offtopic for /vr/ but I am loving the Mother 1 + 2 stage in Super Smash Bros for 3DS. It just seems to be a nice heartfelt sendoff to the Mother series due to the first two games being "remembered" in the background. The music is really nice too, but I wish there was another song besides the two 8 melodies, although Magicant is part of one. Those songs make me cry HARD so they suck for battle songs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 16:38:50 2014 No.1950479 >>1950475 Oops I meant to link this: http://earthboundcentral.com/2014/09/earthbound-content-galore-in-super-smash-bros-3ds/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 17:16:11 2014 No.1950549 >>1946543 >earthbound 3 no one in the US calls it that.

Anonymous Fri Sep 19 17:42:51 2014 No.1950617

>>1946543
My friend and I are playing through it together. It's his favorite game but I have never played it. I really like the dialogue so far and there are a lot of funny items, but the limited inventory space is kind of annoying, especially because I want to experiment with food and condiment combinations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 18:53:56 2014 No.1950765 >>1949336 try to find a save file from around where you were

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 19 19:04:48 2014 No.1950789 >>1946543 this game fucking sucks. plebs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 03:13:11 2014 No.1951803 File: 45 KB, 400x300, n8h5xeZSWI1tnz4pfo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1950196 vagina confirmed

>>	ICodex !BOOSTSxNuo Sat Sep 20 03:17:00 2014 No.1951814 File: 54 KB, 309x339, shiggy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1946543 well I did a /vr/ load out once while /v/ had a server running.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 04:49:03 2014 No.1951923 File: 6 KB, 256x223, gameplay2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1946543 >Earthbound 3

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 17:34:33 2014 No.1952965 >>1951803 What does it matter if a girl posted it or not?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 20 17:57:55 2014 No.1953019 >>1949179 you were maybe 2 hours from the end

Anonymous Sat Sep 20 18:50:29 2014 No.1953103

Is there any saves out there that allow you to play Mother 3 right from Lucas?

I am not a first time player and I've attempted Mother 3 a few times and my last time ended on a save corruption.
I love the intro but I don't want to do through all that crap.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 10:49:46 2014 No.1954545 >>1953103 You may get one if you ask around Starmen. Those people got the entire game memorized

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 21 18:39:59 2014 No.1955595 >>1950789 Why does it suck?

Anonymous Sun Sep 21 19:53:29 2014 No.1955723
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>>1946689
Different strokes for different blokes I guess. Personally I like the first Mother just as much as the others. It has the most memorable tunes, the most relatable characters and the world are writing are top notch. Not to mention that for its time it was pretty revolutionary. I just have a special love for the first Mother. I can see why it would be considered inferior, but I don't think it deserves all the shit it gets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 09:49:29 2014 No.1956956 >>1955723 I like Mother 1 best, but why do you think this has the most relatable characters when you barely get to know them unlike those in Mother 2 and 3?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:02:31 2014 No.1956972 I hate how you get the same ending in Mother 3 whether you choose to pull the final needle or not. If you say No he pulls it anyway, like the game is saying "fuck you asshole, you get no say in this". Really pissed me off.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:07:07 2014 No.1956975

>>1948556
>new mother will help them financially
MOTHER 1+2 (original) ~240,000
MOTHER 1+2 (Value Selection reprint) ~80,000
MOTHER 3 ~400,000
http://earthboundcentral.com/2009/02/earthbound-series-sales-figures/

Starfox 64 3ds just under a million
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/45692/star-fox-64-3d/

Starfox command .5mil
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/2221/star-fox-command/

Its equally if not proven more so that starfox is a more profitable series than mother. If mother 3 did get localized like other titles with about a 6 month cycle would have sold a bit poorly in the west. It was released a bit late in the GBA life cycle as it was and emulation for GBA was near perfect and was even ported to devices such as the PSP by that point.

Sorry mother fans, that's it for the series from the angles that it sold poorly, it's latest entry was hated by Japan, and the series head is now officially done.

Take a cue from frozen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:28:52 2014 No.1957004 >>1950475 Not /vr/ >laughs with fingers grasped together >neck beard jiggles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 11:36:15 2014 No.1957064 >>1948556 >Why Star Fox Hey man I don't even remember the last Star Fox Syar Fox was going the way of Megaman

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 11:43:47 2014 No.1957075 >>1955723 >for its time it was pretty revolutionary It came out in '89. It was far behind its times in everything, including the mdoern setting.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:14:21 2014 No.1957104

What a coincidence. I've been replaying Earthbound lately, since I haven't played it to completion since I owned the game back when it came out and needed a refresher on parts of the game that aren't "incomprehensible cosmic horror shows up at the end". Well, that and because of the new Smash Bros. having rad-ass Ness alts with checkerboard menu background and Master Belch shirts.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:48:20 2014 No.1957139
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Hey guys, you don't mind if I come out and say that I actually really despise Mother 3's characters, story, setting and practically everything about it except gameplay, right? Honestly it does a shit job following up on Mother and EarthBound to me, and these two happen to be some of my favorite RPGs and stories ever in retro games.

Pic related, I'm the guy that started the Sword of Kings thread yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:51:54 2014 No.1957143 >>1946543 >earthbound zero just call it mother, op.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:59:33 2014 No.1957337 >want to buy a hard copy of Earthbound >even the junkiest cartridges with the labels torn halfway off cost 180 dollarydoos >really tempted to drop $150 on one Should I? I've always wanted to have one in my collection. How much do they normally go for?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:07:19 2014 No.1957360 >>1957337 Don't be an idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:11:22 2014 No.1957372 >>1957337 If you're going to spend that much, you might as well save up for a Wii U. You can buy EB off the virtual console for $10.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:29:56 2014 No.1957680 >>1950315 Hope so. I really wanted to play Mother 1 but man was it a pain. Not Dragon Quest 2 pain but close in my opinion.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:41:09 2014 No.1958283 >>1957075 just for curiosity, what modern times RPGs came out before mother? I tend to like them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:11:02 2014 No.1958348 File: 861 KB, 1632x918, mother3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just got a Chinese repro of Mother 3 in English. Looks and feels pretty good. For once, China doesn't disappoint me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:19:04 2014 No.1958364 >>1958348 nice, where from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:27:41 2014 No.1958386 >>1958364 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Game-card-Mother-3-USA-version-English-language-Free-Shipping/1782950983.html $20 shipped. Totally worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:31:40 2014 No.1958395 I've been wanting to try this game for a while, which one is the best in your opinion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:33:47 2014 No.1958401 >>1958395 Just play it in order and use fast forward to grind when you need to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:35:51 2014 No.1958649 >>1957139 Care to elaborate why it was disappointing to you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:03:26 2014 No.1958685 >>1958283 Dragon Quest 3 came out about a year before Mother 1. Which has much better pacing and level progression in my opinion. Final Fantasy 2 came out before it too but I'm not that big on that game.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:22:00 2014 No.1958712
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>>1958395

Best Gameplay = Mother 3
Best Story = EarthBound
Best Atmosphere = Mother 1

Reccommended to use the translation patch for GBA version of MOTHER 1 + 2

MOTHER 2 isn't translated, but the MOTHER 1 portion is fully translated to be a lot more accurate than the official translation ( a beta at best ), also there's an optional "Easy Ring" that doubles your EXP and money at the beginning of the game. Recommended if you don't enjoy grinding, because this game requires alot of that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:22:20 2014 No.1958713 >>1956972 The world is completely ruined. What else is left to do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:23:47 2014 No.1958719 >>1958283 Nothing. >>1958685 Good reading comprehension.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:35:29 2014 No.1958739
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>>1958649

Well, it's kind of a long-winded reason for me:

Honestly it's the same reason Japan hates the game: They changed too much. They changed the story to be something completely serious, but several of the old Mother traits just don't belong, especially in terms of gameplay. I find it hard to connect with the games melodrama when the main character hardly seems to interact with anybody and express how he feels about the situation at hand. To be honest the only time Lucas really acts like Lucas probably would is during the final boss to fit in with the rest of the series' 'Final Boss fight needs to not be a brute brawl' quota. The whole change from aliens to Pigmasks really doesn't help either.

That's just the first bit of issue I have with the game, more at 11

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:46:20 2014 No.1958751
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>>1958739

Secondly are story issues that don't fit in with the gameplay:

So each chapter in the early game star a different character. Sounds cool on paper, but when Chapters 2 and 3 star protagonists that kind of suck on their own, we have a problem. Flint is fine, he's like previous Mother protagonists without the PSI, he can live off of healing items and bashing the fuck out of everyone. My problem is Duster and Salsa.

Duster is nothing like Jeff, he really can't handle his own in battle compared to the nerd because of a lack of healing items and early game partner, and the fact he isn't strong enough to handle his own to deal with all those early bullshit enemies. Jeff doesn't even fight a boss before he joins your team, Duster does, and that's quite annoying when you have a character based solely on playing tricks on enemies. Suffice to say, the stops being fun until you get Kumatora because you have no means of proper offense otherwise. Duster's weak by himself, which is the main issue I have with the next Chapter...

Salsa may be the worse playable Mother character ever, even more so than Lloyd. When you make a character intentionally bad to prove a point, the problem is you've still made them bad. They cannot be salvaged and even Chuggaaconroy actually hates Salsa last I remember. It's not something to look forward to when an RPG has a BAD character, which means a bad Chapter no matter how you crack it. A game's supposed to be fun, not tedious. I even have problems with EarthBound about tedium, but I'm invested in the story on contrast due to the nature of that game and how it's set up, so there's the difference.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:59:04 2014 No.1958761
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>>1958751

Finally, the gameplay

The gameplay is the same as other Mother games, this is good yes, it's a sequel. The game is even better than EarthBound! Cool! I hate the running though, that was a stupid idea, they should've just done a normal run, not that automatic bullshit. They also took out getting EXP from weak enemies which bothers me.

Now here's my biggest issue: The gameplay does not match the story. Mother 3 isn't a modern setting, it's a bullshit rural world that says modernization is a bad thing. The reason they used PSI in the first place was in place of magic to represent that there wasn't so much a true magic to the world, but rather a kind of sci-fi charm behind it all. Why the fuck would you suddenly learn psychic powers from a magical transvestite? Let alone one whose beauty kit brings you back to life when you die. Where do these needles suddenly come in to things randomly? The Eight Melodies were introduced in the beginning of the game, why bring in the needles near the half-way point all of a sudden?

As for Lucas and Kumatora:
Lucas is Ness, he isn't Lucas until you either aren't playing as him or the ending which hamfists everything the very last second. Lucas is not a good character because he has no involvement in the story what-so-ever despite the fact it REVOLVES around him. As for Kumatora, she does not fit the criteria of being your frail black mage. Why would you go and put all these traits that literally are the complete opposite of Ana and Paula and make her the exact same as them? Is that the joke? Is that the irony? It's not funny, it's rather stupid that the best character in the game is a joke

Mother 3 wants to be the different baby of the three. What was wrong with a different approach to a proper modern setting? It doesn't have to be Mother 2 2... Just, you know, not complete shit you know?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:31:46 2014 No.1958794
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>>1958761
>Why the fuck would you suddenly learn psychic powers from a magical transvestite?

The Magypsies are kind of a throwback to Magicant in Mother 1, with their pink seashell-shaped houses and all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:42:09 2014 No.1958804 >>1958761 >Says Kumatora not being Paula or Ana is bad >Says Lucas being Ness is bad What

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:49:54 2014 No.1958808

Wasn't planning on responding so soon, but gonna clear things up

>>1958794
I suppose? But Magicant itself was an illusion anyway. I'm not sure whether or not it truly existed, similarly to Ness' Magicant as well. Difference with the Magypsies is that they're actually real

>>1958804
Never said that it was bad, I just said that it doesn't fit the characters when it comes to their personalities and stat growths. You'd think Kumatora might be more something akin to having stronger physicals than she does because she's such a tomboy. But I guess being a girl means she's automatically weaker, huh? Oops.

Meanwhile my issue with Lucas being Ness isn't gameplay, it's story. He should be more involved than he is, but he isn't. Tradition or not, some things MUST be broken in order to reflect the change of story telling and setting. Lucas is probably more involved in Brawl's Subspace than he is in the entirety of Mother 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:13:29 2014 No.1958831 >>1956975 >Take a cue from frozen. What does this even mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:24:49 2014 No.1958843 File: 47 KB, 500x500, tumblr_na9844hGhd1qzylvvo1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1958283 How about Megami fuckign Tensei? Or one of the dozens upon dozens of pc88 rpgs set in 80s Japan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:45:39 2014 No.1958848 >>1957139 It only took 10 of you guys to get my Sword of Kings. Not that big a deal. 1/128 my ass.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:48:51 2014 No.1958850

>>1958808

I don't mean to find a proper meaning behind Magicant or if it was real or not. I just mean, Mother has always been kind of weird when it comes to learning PSI powers.
Poo has to get into a really scary out-of-body/near death experience to learn his.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 10:09:52 2014 No.1959067 File: 332 KB, 446x1600, J9z1YGq.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1958843 What game is this from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 10:11:40 2014 No.1959070 >>1958831 Let it go

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:17:41 2014 No.1959161

>>1959067
>>1958843
I think it's from Fuzoroi no Lemon. What are some other pc88 games like that, I mean of the "dozen other rpgs set in 80s Japan"? It looks very nice.
Even if it doesn't seem like a proper rpg, there's just exploration in a city but no battles or stuff like that. And Digital Devil Story is basically all set in a dungeon and all the other SMT titles are post 1989, so Mother is still quite unique in the fact that it's completely set in a modern world (80s America) where you travel from city to city.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:22:14 2014 No.1959168 >>1958848 i've played and beaten earthbound probably 5 or 6 times since it first came out, and i stopped to grind for the sword on half of those playthroughs, and i've never had it drop. so from another perspective, 1/128 my ass indeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:57:28 2014 No.1959213 >>1958850 How did Ness learn his PSI powers again? I know Ninten got his because his Grandpa studied alien PSI, and Lucas got his from getting buttfucked by a gay fairy, but I can't remember how Ness got his powers.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:38:54 2014 No.1959361

>>1959213
Being the chosen one? I don't think they ever really explained it. Earthbound is really the less story driven of the 3 games.
>>1959161
>Digital Devil Story
I actually just read the book to get myself ready for KMT (SNES remake of MT 1 and 2). Fuck me Nakajima might be the worse protagonist ever in a video game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:42:45 2014 No.1959729 >>1959213 in a flashback they show him moving a bottle with his mind as a baby

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:57:45 2014 No.1959747 I've never actually played before, but I am looking to do so now, are the stories at all related, is it best to play them in order? Or can anyone recommend a worst to best order?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:31:24 2014 No.1959893

>>1959747

For the most part, the stories are unrelated, the only thing that really connects them are the villains,

EarthBound has the same villain as Mother 1, but there's no way you would recognize her]/spoiler[]
And MOTHER 3's villain is the secondary villain from EarthBound, he has a room for nostalgiafagging about the last game, but other than that, there's not much to know about him from the previous games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:58:29 2014 No.1959926 >>1959747 You can play them in any order, but I wouldn't play M3 before M2.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:08:21 2014 No.1959948

>>1959747
Any order is fine; you'll understand EarthBound just as well whether you've played Mother or not and the same goes for Mother 3. However, Mother can feel kinda clunky and makes a lot of use of grinding, what with it basically being Dragon Quest in a modern setting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:29:04 2014 No.1960005 >>1959893 >>1959926 Ah, thanks, I will probably keep to order of release. >>1959948 >Mother can feel kinda clunky and makes a lot of use of grinding Is this something that is improved with the later editions, anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:31:12 2014 No.1960008 >>1960005 the gba version is a little smoother, but the music is ruined

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:45:44 2014 No.1960029 >>1960008 The music in mother 2 is ruined. Mother 1 is fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:49:43 2014 No.1960034 >>1960029 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEmxnPT6-LM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BEEYn7tek ehhhh

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 20:00:00 2014 No.1960048 >>1960005 I'm pretty sure the GBA rerelease (or perhaps the translation patch for it) gives you an item that increases your xp and money gains, so if you're going by order of release I recommend using that version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 20:12:39 2014 No.1960069 >>1960048 iirc the hacker mentions that the item (easy ring) also lowers the encounter rate to even things out, which akes sense because the encounter rate in that game is ridiculous

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 00:31:18 2014 No.1960630 >>1960069 I was wondering why I was having trouble grinding at the beginning of the game. Does the easy ring make grinding pretty much unnecessary?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 05:16:46 2014 No.1961036 File: 43 KB, 340x486, 34623673257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1946670 >Mother >Mother 2: Earthbound >Mother 3 Is that really so hard?

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 05:41:37 2014 No.1961048

>>1946670
He's actually wrong, because the first Mother game wasn't released here. It doesn't matter if localization was finished. That makes the second game just plain Earthbound here.
At the same time, Mother 3 is just Mother 3. If it had been finished on N64, chances are it would have actually come overseas and became Earthbound 64, but it wasn't, and the GBA version only received a fan translation. So it's Mother 3.

It's Earthbound, Earthbound, and Mother 3. None of that Earthbound Zero shit, no Earthbound 2, no Earthbound 3.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 16:50:32 2014 No.1961925 >>1961036 THANK YOU this thread was really starting to infuriate me

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 19:18:40 2014 No.1962342

>>1958739
>completely serious
I don't see how you got this. There are definitely a lot more dramatic moments, and I think Mother 3 is a bit more heavy handed in general, but I don't think it ruins anything. It went for a different tone, and it worked. The darker moments juxtapose well with the rest of the game. So much of the Earthbound style and humor is preserved, I don't see why you think they changed TOO much, I think they changed enough.

I didn't care too much for Luca though. I think they should have either made him a silent Ness type, or a well thought out character, not in between, so I agree there. But

>The whole change from aliens to Pigmasks really doesn't help either.
Again, change isn't inherently bad. You may prefer the aliens, I probably do to, but just because they changed the main villains doesn't really say anything about the quality of the game.

>>1958751
I mostly agree. Salsa was awful, Duster was alright. The changing of characters was interesting when you get to find out how their stories come together, but it kind of fucks with the pacing. But Mother games are shit at pacing anyway.

Also did you not use Duster's abilities properly? Because the point was to find their weakness, use whatever ability, and then it was cake. That chapter served to teach you each of his abilities, which are definitely fucking useful.

>>1958761
I'm fine with the running, whatever. Just a little nitpick. But I'd like to point out the timed music system. That shit never gets old, especially if you're musically inclined.

>Mother 3 isn't a modern setting, it's a bullshit rural world that says modernization is a bad thing
That message was very heavy handed, I'm glad there was more going on with the plot though. It shared a lot of subtexts of maturation and loss of innocence, a lot like Earthbound.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 19:41:24 2014 No.1962405

>>1958761
>The Eight Melodies were introduced in the beginning of the game, why bring in the needles near the half-way point all of a sudden?
You're simply saying "it's different", without providing any substantial reasons as to why it's inherently bad. It isn't bad game design to change up narrative structure or the tone of a game. I think you're missing the point of what a sequel should be, i.e, the same shit.

>magical transvestite
Ok, I hated these guys, but they served a very important purpose. Remember the hot spring rape scene? Like in Earthbound, there are a lot of subtexts of maturation, loss of innocence, confusion, sexuality, and puberty. The transvestites represent that.

>Lucas is not a good character because he has no involvement in the story what-so-ever despite the fact it REVOLVES around him
Lucas isn't a good character because he's inconsistent in the worst way possible. I mean, you could say what you said to Ness. The focus isn't as heavy on him, but the entire story, just like in Mother 3, is about him losing his innocence. Yes, the sci-fi modern city simply serves as a backdrop for exploring Itoi's thoughts. It doesn't matter as much as you think.

> As for Kumatora, she does not fit the criteria of being your frail black mage. Why would you go and put all these traits that literally are the complete opposite of Ana and Paula and make her the exact same as them
Again, this is another "Why did they change a thing"
Why do you want her to fit a trope? Don't you think a little subversion is nice for a change? I understand that blank slates were the point, they act as sort of symbols, but just because they changed up that formula doesn't reflect poor game design

>It doesn't have to be Mother 2 2... Just, you know, not complete shit you know
You didn't provide any reasoning besides the fact that it's different, so what are you talking about. Of course you want Mother 2 2, Earthbound with a different skin, the characters with different names, etc

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 19:47:20 2014 No.1962428 >>1957337 I bought mine for $80 dollars and I sold it on ebay again because I was never going to replay it for like $60. Keep hunting.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 19:50:17 2014 No.1962440

>>1956972
>I hate how you get the same ending in Mother 3 whether you choose to pull the final needle or not. If you say No he pulls it anyway, like the game is saying "fuck you asshole, you get no say in this". Really pissed me off.

I hear you but I felt like that in every single video game that let you choose yes or no but it didn't matter anyways. Which was quite a few.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 19:52:20 2014 No.1962452

>>1962440
The whole you get to choose thing is almost always ridiculous anyways. I kind of like how Dark Souls did it, where it didn't matter in the long run if you really look into it, but on a surface level you got to choose.

But most games should just leave that shit out.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 20:06:26 2014 No.1962493

>>1958761
>Why the fuck would you suddenly learn psychic powers from a magical transvestite? Let alone one whose beauty kit brings you back to life when you die. Where do these needles suddenly come in to things randomly? The Eight Melodies were introduced in the beginning of the game, why bring in the needles near the half-way point all of a sudden?

I think the magical transvestites were supposed to be like the 8 melodies in the first part of the game. That's why they are named after musical terminology and could be why they seem to reference Magicant. It's just not as direct as literally collecting something though. I think they were just an ancient species that were more in tune with PSI for whatever reason. Sort of like a more human version of some of the magical creatures in the first two games. I feel like a lot must have been cut from the transition to Mother 64 and Mother 3 GBA version.

I remember reading about the Magyspie name schemes being related to the idea of collecting melodies in an old Itoi interview. I wish I could find it for you.

I haven't played the game in 5 years so I can't really comment on much else. I'm not a very critical person in general. I just like talking about the lore.

>>1959893

Mother 1 to Earthbound almost feels like NES Zelda to SNES Zelda storywise. It almost feels like an upgraded remake for the SNES but it's actually a sequel.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 22:46:12 2014 No.1962858

I've been sort of interested in Earthbound and Mother 3 for a while because they feel like games you really have to experience one way or the other, but on the other hand I also get the impression that Earthbound in particular is really only popular because it's quirky and eccentric, which isn't something I really care for, so I keep putting it off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 23:14:45 2014 No.1962939 >>1949179 >>1949196 IIRC, can't you get Teddy really fucking early? I remember somebody saying that. I didn't get him until close to the end of the game, so him joining pretty much became a "hi, bye" scenario.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 23:39:33 2014 No.1963012

>>1946670
Nah.

Mother was never published in America and was only known under the working title "EarthBound". That's the title.

Mother 2 WAS published as "EarthBound", so obviously that's the title.

Mother 3 was never published in America and as far as we know it never even had a working localized title. So the only thing we can call it is Mother 3.

But you can't call them both EarthBound, so since only one was actually published under a localized name, Mother 2 gets to be EarthBound, and Mother is UNOFFICIALLY EarthBound Zero, it's a fan name.

It's like how Nazo no Murasame Jo and whatever that Frog kingdom game is called in Japan were just called "Mysterious Castle Murasame" and "For Frog the Bell Tolls" by fans, but now actually have official titles in America as "The Mysterious Murasame Castle" and "The Frog for Whom the Bell Tolls". You can call it whatever the fuck makes sense to you until there's some kind of official titling. Even Mother 3 was just called "Mother 3" in Brawl.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 23:55:06 2014 No.1963048

>>1962858
That's a big part of the reason that it's getting popular now, but like stuff like Firefly and Doctor Who and Deadpool, just because retards got into it who love it for the most basic aspects doesn't mean there's not a lot there that kept it alive among fans in the first place.

It's not nearly as "quirky" as you're imagining, too. Think of the weird way Sakurai used to word the Brawl Dojo updates and that's the kind of tone the game has.

To give an example, while a dumbass would find a Hamburger in the trash and go "lol imma eat a burger out of the trash so funny", to me the situation itself wasn't what made it funny, but how it actually didn't seem unusual at all in the world the game had created. The fact that I was pulling health items out of trash cans is funny in itself just because of the way it twists JRPG tropes.

I'm not explaining it very well, but just give it a try and it won't take long for you to see why the game had such a dedicated cult following for over a decade before it started to get real mainstream attention.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 25 15:40:46 2014 No.1964163 >>1962342 >I didn't care too much for Luca though You mean Lucca from Chrono Trigger?

Anonymous Thu Sep 25 16:38:25 2014 No.1964273

>>1946640
>http://earthboundcentral.com/2014/07/mother-remake-hack-coming-along-nicely/
reaaally would have made more sense with a mother 3 tileset due to M3 having more in common with mother 1 (besdies porky) but i'll take what I can get.

There is an NES graphic overhaul of Mother 1 that looks fantastic as well.

>>1957139
I can understand where you're coming from, it was a massive departure from the first two in some crucial ways but I was still able to appreciate it.

Although I enjoyed M3 a ton, I'm almost certain Earthbound 64 would have been a better game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 25 17:57:28 2014 No.1964472 >>1949196 Teddy is disappointing because you only have him for a little while, because he leaves your party near the end of the game

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 03:15:51 2014 No.1965804 >>1964472 He is still useful to gain a few levels prior to the check point where he checks out

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 03:40:35 2014 No.1965819 >>1964273 >There is an NES graphic overhaul of Mother 1 that looks fantastic as well. Where is this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 05:41:06 2014 No.1965908 >>1958751 > I'm a faggot and don't know how to use thief tools

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 05:48:18 2014 No.1965916 >>1958761 > Mother 3 isn't a modern setting, it's a bullshit rural world that says modernization is a bad thing. lol, no. > It looks like things will work out here, but what about your world? Will it be allright?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 07:39:30 2014 No.1965986 >>1965819 http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Community/PKHack/Mother-25th-Anniversary-Edition it should be this one.

Anonymous Fri Sep 26 08:21:29 2014 No.1966007
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>>1965986
Well that looks promising aside from the shit looking tree things in pic related. At least I think they're trees.

I just started playing the Mother 1 + 2 translation a few days ago since I've only ever beaten the vanilla NES release, but now im considering putting it on hold until this comes out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 12:05:56 2014 No.1966248 >>1966007 agreed, they look like Mario warp pipes (they should be trees, yes). Well I might replay Mother with this graphics patch but I'm more hyped for this remake >>1964273 even if it won't come out until next year apparently

Anonymous Fri Sep 26 17:46:22 2014 No.1966802

>>1963048
>It's not nearly as "quirky" as you're imagining, too. Think of the weird way Sakurai used to word the Brawl Dojo updates and that's the kind of tone the game has.

>>1963048
>I'm not explaining it very well, but just give it a try and it won't take long for you to see why the game had such a dedicated cult following for over a decade before it started to get real mainstream attention.

It feels like it's a classic coming of age story that hollywood would have made, but as a JRPG.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 21:00:43 2014 No.1967197 >>1966007 This looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 21:33:17 2014 No.1967274 >>1967197 There's a Mother 1 with Earthbound graphics that I keep seeing updates from on tomato's Earthbound Central blog.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 21:58:37 2014 No.1967330 >>1967274 That's not going to be finished for a whiie though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 00:16:36 2014 No.1967602 File: 871 KB, 1680x1050, Outside_of_Dalaam.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's your favourite/most cozy area in the franchise?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 00:47:37 2014 No.1967654 >>1967602 Dungeon Man the fact that an entire level joins your party is pretty rad to me

Anonymous Sat Sep 27 01:14:27 2014 No.1967724
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>>1967602
Probably Onette to be honest, but I have always had a history of loving the first level in every video game.

I also really like the Chaos Theater, if only for that chill BGM

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 01:48:02 2014 No.1967804 >>1958751 Duster is completely capable alone, and is one of the most if not the most valuable character on the full team. Thief tools are essential.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 02:30:30 2014 No.1967837 >>1967804 Holy shit is the reason why Duster has a ladder and a rope snake because of the game snakes and ladders?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 03:42:58 2014 No.1967905 >>1952965 GTFO of my 4chan faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 04:40:22 2014 No.1967948 >>1967905 Anon's guts went down by 5.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 09:00:39 2014 No.1968189 >>1967602 >>1967724 Agreed me too for many games. I love Onett and Twoson.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 09:02:54 2014 No.1968191 Threek post-zombie invasion is the comfiest town. Just listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZn2ZOT_6O4

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 09:58:09 2014 No.1968228 File: 1.48 MB, 360x202, 4oohw.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So on another subject, can I ask why Ness's Nightmare is harder than Giygas?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 10:06:52 2014 No.1968236 >>1968228 Because it's harder to try and get rid of your own inner demons/achieve maturity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 20:22:55 2014 No.1969353 >>1967905 >Being this territorial

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 27 23:58:58 2014 No.1969726 File: 245 KB, 600x525, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1969353

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 00:00:16 2014 No.1969728 >>1967724 Onett's music makes me feel so happy. Wasn't the 'beach house' right outside of there? That would have been cozy if they actually gave you more than 2 walls...

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 11:48:03 2014 No.1970512 >>1969728 Is the beach house the real estate you can buy that has the psychotic note?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 12:13:47 2014 No.1970554 >>1948715 Jesus Christ.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 12:33:32 2014 No.1970589 Rather new to the series, but how old is Teddy supposed to be? He's clearly older than any other party member.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 12:56:06 2014 No.1970641 >>1970589 I supposed, 16? He's still a kid, but he's old enough to be leader of a gang and respected for it, so that seems appropriate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 13:35:49 2014 No.1970746 >>1970641 That's one jacked up 16 year old. Also, I'm saying this despite the fear of being hunted down and burned on a pyre, but Mother seems like it could be a great, heartfelt stop-motion movie.

>>	Future rare Wii U games? Sun Sep 28 14:53:04 2014 No.1970895 File: 42 KB, 479x720, look it's op.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1946543 >usa fags fuck off you little ass weaboo

Anonymous Sun Sep 28 15:43:09 2014 No.1970992

>>1970512
>>1969728
yes, the "demon child" story, it's right inside a drawer.
>>1970746
yeah I'd love a well done Mother movie, talking about movies, "Stand by Me" gives me strong Mother vibes minus the aliens (and it's quoted as an inspiration by Itoi himself), if we include aliens, something that gives me a bit of that feel is "Super 8".

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 16:17:21 2014 No.1971054 >>1970992 Huh...how did I never make the connection with "Stand By Me" before? That one almost seems like a no-brainer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 19:13:25 2014 No.1971425 >>1970895 You know it wasn't released outside of Japan and US, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 19:22:37 2014 No.1971443 >>1946561 so is earthbound the vidya equivalent to neutral milk hotel?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 20:17:15 2014 No.1971545 If there was a live-action Mother movie, for some reason i've always pictured it as a depiction of 90's american culture being played by an all-asian cast. CG or Claymotion would probably be a far better fit tho.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 28 21:21:44 2014 No.1971686 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtKA3hSA2wI

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 12:19:44 2014 No.1972836 >>1971686 That video gave me second hand autism

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 12:21:23 2014 No.1972839 >>1946543 What's the best version of each game for english speakers? Is it: Mother: GBA translation by Tomato Mother 2: SNES retranslation and restoration mod Mother 3: GBA translation by Tomato Or do I have it wrong?

Anonymous Mon Sep 29 13:19:23 2014 No.1972942

What section of Earthbound do you guys enjoy the most?

It's hard for me to pick, but an honorable mention is the part in Winters where you play as Jeff. So fucking comfy. I also like how you level up rather quickly and become quite strong by the time you leave.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 13:29:19 2014 No.1972952 >>1971545 Claymation style like Moral Orel would be perfect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 13:30:30 2014 No.1972954 >>1971545 >If there was a live-action Mother movie, for some reason i've always pictured it as a depiction of 90's american culture being played by an all-asian cast. this would be fucking awful

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 13:46:29 2014 No.1972983 File: 106 KB, 1256x1008, Lost_Underworld.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1972942 Yes, I loved that part. That and the lost underworld

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 17:02:25 2014 No.1973329 >>1951923 Yeah, I'm sure that's what it said in the original japanese version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 29 21:46:41 2014 No.1973839 >>1973329 [citation needed]

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 03:02:35 2014 No.1974321

>>1971054
>>1970992

That's actually why Stand By Me is mentioned in Pokemon Red and Blue.

A few people from Ape who worked on Mother series went to work for Game Freak for Pokemon Red and Blue. There's a lot more in common too. Kids traveling with friends and collecting 8 things and fighting a psychic alien in a cave with a distant father who is never home and a mother who heals your party and an asshole next door neighbor. I kind of consider Pokemon a spiritual sucessor to the Mother series, I grew up on Pokemon and found out about Earthbound afterwards through Smash 64. I'm really happy Pokemon seems to keep up many traditions that started in Mother.

>>1970746
I love stopmotion and I love Mother's clay models. I bought a bunch a few years ago when they were being released in Japanese UFO prize catchers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 07:23:42 2014 No.1974584 >>1974321 >A few people from Ape who worked on Mother series went to work for Game Freak for Pokemon Red and Blue. actually I believe Ape became Creatures Inc.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 07:50:27 2014 No.1974597

>>1974321
>I kind of consider Pokemon a spiritual sucessor to the Mother series

That's a fucking tough sell, anon. You got any proof about the staff having worked on Mother? Also, there aren't any common gameplay elements and very few common story elements of any consequence.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 08:04:33 2014 No.1974616

>>1974597

Not him, and I don't see Pokemon as a spiritual successor to mother (and if anything, Itoi said that'd be Animal Crossing), but yeah, people who worked on Mother 1 and 2 also worked on Pokemon.
Pax Softnica who worked on Mother 1 also developed Pokemon Snap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 08:48:04 2014 No.1974663 Are these three games linked by plot? Will I miss something if I jump into 2 or 3?

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 08:50:26 2014 No.1974668

>>1974663

They are separate stories, but the antagonist is linked between the games (the main antagonist from Mother 1 returns in Mother 2, and the same happens with M2 and M3).
There's also a ton of references, you can still play each game separately and understand the plot, but it's definitely better to play all 3 games in order.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 10:03:33 2014 No.1974761 >>1974663 If you really REALLY can't stand Mother 1 you could jump into 2. I do not recommend it, but they are fairly similar in plot structure and gameplay.

Anonymous Tue Sep 30 10:05:43 2014 No.1974763

>>1974584
>>1974597
correct, on the first Japanese Red & Green official guide book there is still the Ape logo.

Well. there are way more gameplay elements in common between Mother and Pokémon than between Mother and Animal Crossing, especially as regards the 8 melodies/8 badges, also there are many influences like the asshole rival, the modern setting, the absent father, Mewtwo/Gyigas etc.. Itoi even stated that the Bag of Dragonite is a pre-reference to the namesake Pokémon since the games were in development when Earthbound came out and between all the RPGs that came out after EB, Pokémon is still the series that resembles the Mother series the most, I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 10:46:40 2014 No.1974798 Pokemon Red and Blue reminds me a LOT of earthbound. After that, not so much Along with the things someone else mentioned - interconnected world, bikes, modern setting, etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 30 20:34:25 2014 No.1975834 >>1974798 Why do they remind you of Pokemon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 10:56:25 2014 No.1976807 >>1974321 >I love stopmotion Have you sold your heart and soul to Wallace and Gromit yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 14:55:46 2014 No.1977108 File: 220 KB, 1920x1080, 1403278582120.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >there are people who select "I Don't Care" rather than naming the MC after yourself, friends, and family

Anonymous Wed Oct 1 20:26:36 2014 No.1977681
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>>1974597
I know it's not commonly accepted like say Fallout and Wasteland, but it's just the feeling I get from the series personally. I was more talking about the game's tone and setting. There's so much ot get into but I think I mentioned most of it.

>>1974616
He also said the connection between Mother 1 and 2 was up to the player. It's not like this is really an objective argument and invalidates my feelings on it. Do you have a link to this quote though? It sounds really interesting. I think Itoi worked on the game that eventually became Animal Crossing. The whole game is about moving out of your house and the way the game reminds me you to phone your mom reminds me of Earthbound.

>>1974763
>Pokémon is still the series that resembles the Mother series the most, I think.

The only other game I can think of is Yume Nikki. The graphics look somewhat visually similar to Earthbound for most of the game, but it has a whole area that looks like it has been intentionally styled after Mother 1 except they designed it to be claustrophobic and depressing instead of an adventurous open world.

>>1976807
I grew up with Wallace and Gromit. Feathers McGraw also had a bizarre hidden subplot in Reboot which was also really popular here.

>>1977108

>name characters after my family in Mother 3
>name claus after my best friend from childhood who moved away
>cry hard because my mom dies and my dad becomes neglectful and angry and my best friend became a soulless cyborg zombie

Anonymous Wed Oct 1 20:41:23 2014 No.1977707
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Here's the rest of FC World from Yume Nikki.

>>1974798
Parts of Pokemon Black and White reminded me of Mother 3 but I'm not sure if it was supposed to be intentional or not, unlike Red/Blue. I'm talking about the Pokemon, Zekrom and Kyurem, who are black and white dragons who were originally one dragon. Two twins fought over it and created the Unova region, which is America. It's very minor compared to the other stuff, and I don't know if it's intentional but I thought I'd mention it because why not.

Anonymous Wed Oct 1 20:43:45 2014 No.1977710

>>1977707
I forgot to add in Mother 3 there's the whole Light and Dark dragon which are dipicted as a black and white dragon in the church. The dragon at the end of the game destroyed the Earth, but the characters are alive, so it might be some sort of creation myth/universe reset thing...idk it's kind of weak compared to the other stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 1 20:47:56 2014 No.1977717 >>1975834 Not the guy you're replying too but I think most were mentioned in this thread. Here: >>1974763 >>1974321 Is there a source on the Dragonite thing though? I actually never realized that.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 12:13:38 2014 No.1978797 >>1977728 Is that your OTP?

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 13:47:28 2014 No.1978976

>>1975834

I said in my post. Pokemon Red and Blue and Earthbound both have interconnected worlds, bikes, and a modern setting. Some of the dialogue in the first Pokemon games wouldn't be out of place in Earthbound, either. They all just have a very similar feel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 13:59:39 2014 No.1979002 >>1946543 How were you supposed to know to go to the Dinosaur Museam after Summers? Obviously the hint guy tells you, but I don't remember any other indication.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 2 17:52:44 2014 No.1979402 >>1969726 underrated post

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 20:09:38 2014 No.1979736

>>1977717
It's in the article of the Bag of Dragonite in the Earthbound wiki. There isn't any link to the interview when Itoi mentioned it, though (and he did many interviews so it'd be probably hard to pin down that particular interview).
>>1979002
The curator of the museum calls you on the phone telling you to come over.

Anonymous Thu Oct 2 20:32:19 2014 No.1979775

>>1977707
yeah Black and White has a lot of similarities (in the OST too, check Love Theme in Mother 3 and N's Farewell, for example). Also the dragon split because in old Unova two twins fought for two different ideals (twins = Lucas and Claus). I suppose it's intentional, even though I don't know if some of the staff that worked on Mother 3 also worked on B/W. It seems too strange for a coincidence, I hope that's not plagiarism, but just references.

About Yume Nikki yes, some visuals are almost the same but the feeling the game gives is a complete opposite to Mother's (well there are some darker and sad moments in the franchise but not so many).

Anonymous Fri Oct 3 07:51:18 2014 No.1980632

>>1979736

I'd call the Dragonite thing bullshit. If I remember correctly, it was called different in japanese Mother 2, so the Dragonite thing was added to the US localization only. This was in 1995, and Pokemon didn't release until 1996. Moreover, Dragonite, the Pokemon, also has a different name in japanese, and the english localization of Pokemon didn't happen until 1998. So, how could a game localized on 1995 knew ahead of time the name they were going to give in 1998 to a character from a game released in 1996, a year after EarthBound.

However, if there really is a source for that, I'd be interested on reading it. I know many things in Pokemon were inspired by Mother since APE/Cratures are the same company, etc, but the Dragonite thing I think it's pure coincidence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 3 11:28:49 2014 No.1980859 >>1979736 Strange, I never got that call

Anonymous Fri Oct 3 15:13:32 2014 No.1981202

>>1980632
I should ask about it on the Starmen forums, probably there's someone who knows better about this topic because the item has indeed different names.
Since the R/B development was very long and a release was planned earlier than 1996 (and therefore the localization too I think), I suppose that the Japanese team was also aware of the localization names, both in EB and what was planned for R/B.
For example this sheet has some early names for the localization (Dragonite is "Dragoni", which is an abbreviation for it since the Japanese naming system allow less characters/letters). http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/9/9c/Generation_I_prototype_English_names.jpg
This sheet might be even from 1997 probably.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 3 15:21:52 2014 No.1981219 >>1977108 >Implying I have friends or family >Implying I wouldn't be a shitty hero No, I'll just pretend to be somebody else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 3 15:24:20 2014 No.1981221 >>1958395 I played Earthbound first, then Mother 3 and finally Mother 1. My fav is EB, you should play it first.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 3 15:54:22 2014 No.1981281 File: 780 KB, 3594x3082, twoson.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1967602 Twoson to both, though I wouldn't mind living in Summers either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 3 16:05:17 2014 No.1981310 >>1972942 The first part, grinding in Onett to fight Frank and his robot... I think that's the best part for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 01:53:47 2014 No.1982279 File: 3 KB, 178x144, 1344560838985.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1959213 >How did Ness learn his PSI powers again? He learned it from his parents, Ninten and Ana.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 13:10:36 2014 No.1982980 >>1982279 Oh, that theory... How I wish it was true, I love it ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 14:16:53 2014 No.1983095 >>1982980 Is there anything to discredit it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 14:48:22 2014 No.1983140 >>1983095 Itoi said whether or not Ninten and Ness are the same kid is up to the player, since both are meant to represent the player. I don't think he ever mean Ninten to be Ness' dad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 14:51:19 2014 No.1983143 >>1983140 So there isn't anything, then.

Anonymous Sat Oct 4 19:41:54 2014 No.1983670

>>1983143
Well, actually there's the year thing. Mother 1 happens in 1989 iirc, and Ninten's like 11 yo then? And EB happens in 199X. Ness is 12 yo in, let's say, 1999, which means he had to be born in 1987. If Ninten was his father, he had 9 yo when Ness was born.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 20:07:57 2014 No.1983741 >>1983670 I thought it was changed to "early 1980s"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 21:40:33 2014 No.1983875 >>1978797 I found it on Itoi's twitter. I think it may have been retweeted from another person though.

Anonymous Sat Oct 4 21:47:46 2014 No.1983885

>>1980632
>but the Dragonite thing I think it's pure coincidence.
I think there's a good chance it's a coincidence. The name dragonite might come from draconite, an actual thing from mythology. It's a stone found in the head of dragons. The -ite suffix is a common thing used for minerals. So I would assume bag of dragonite is a bag of stones that turn you into a dragon. The US Dragonite might have used a similar naming scheme. because of draconite.

Using Dragonite in Earthbound retroactively makes me picture Ness and company turn into Dragonites though. I'm surprised there's not fanart of this.

Anonymous Sat Oct 4 21:54:45 2014 No.1983895
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>>1983140
A lot of stuff in Mother and Earthbound can be left up to the player's imagination. That's what was so great about old games in general in my opinion. When I was a kid I thought Link was always the same Link until Wind Waker. My favourite theory along these lines is that Ness is the vendor shown in random locations in Mother 3.

This is kind of incidental but after playing Smash 4 I think Sakurai thinks Ninten and Ness are the same person, which is why Magicant is a mashup between the one from Mother 1 and the one from Mother 2 while clips of both games are being shown (remembered by Ness?) in the background.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 21:58:06 2014 No.1983905 File: 39 KB, 400x240, HNI_0089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1983895 Er, I'm not sure how much you guys follow non VR shit so here's what I was talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 4 21:59:39 2014 No.1983909 File: 56 KB, 400x240, HNI_0009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1983905

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 05:44:32 2014 No.1984503 >>1983895 >>1983905 >>1983909 Hey, spoiler that shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 05:48:36 2014 No.1984506 >>1983895 Magicant is a location featured in Mother 1 and Mother 2. Despite them still being different locations, it's not so much of a stretch to combine them for a game like Smash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 05:49:39 2014 No.1984508 >>1984503 Whyfor? It's not spoilers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 05:52:52 2014 No.1984513 >>1984508 There's one less Smash stage I can't experience blindly. I thought I was safe on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 06:57:51 2014 No.1984595 >>1984513 dungeonman and flyingman are in it too

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 07:12:39 2014 No.1984630 Got the game in Christmas in '94 and held onto the box for a long time. Anybody else like me and didn't notice Ness in the visor reflection for years? Blew me mind when I first saw it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 07:13:47 2014 No.1984632 File: 531 KB, 1500x1046, earthboundbox.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1984630 Pic related

Anonymous Sun Oct 5 07:19:35 2014 No.1984643

>>1983895

The sticker of Ninten in Brawl very clearly said "Ninten" on it, not Ness. I'm sure Sakurai is aware they're different characters.
The Magicant stage in Smash is just Mother 1's magicant, with some random elements from Mother 2 that don't appear in Mother 2's magicant (dungeon man, the octopus, etc).
By the way, did they change the octopus to a pencil on the US version of Smash?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 11:19:20 2014 No.1984909 >>1946543 I recently downloaded Mother 1+ Mother 2 for the Visual boy. It says that Mother 2/Earthbound only features Menu translations. Does that mean cutscene text is untranslated?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 11:28:11 2014 No.1984919 >>1984503 Sorry Moot changed it so I can't delete posts that old. >>1984506 I know but Magicant in Mother 2 was only Ness' Magicant. It wouldn't make sense to have things from his Magicant if it wasn't his. The scenes in the background are memories.

Anonymous Sun Oct 5 11:32:46 2014 No.1984930

>>1984503
Sorry Moot changed it so I can't delete posts that old.

>>1984506
I know but Magicant is specific to Ness' subconscious in Mother 2. The scenes in the background are memories. Ninten and Ness are considered the same person by some people ven though they have different names. Paula and Ana are similar, and Loyd and Jeff.

Anonymous Sun Oct 5 12:11:30 2014 No.1984990

>>1949172
you're implying it's not possible to confuse people like that. there's a bootleg version of sonic for the nes for example. it looks and plays like sonic on old hardware. same could have happened with earthbound, especially because of the similarities in character design and roles between the games. might have been confused as some crappy bootleg of mother2 and cast aside as such

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 14:36:28 2014 No.1985251 >>1949172 Get over it, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 14:38:06 2014 No.1985257 >>1949172 >'Zero' was a suffix added by a group of no-talent hackers who decided the world would get confused if an NES game named EarthBound would come out They thought right. The name was well-chosen. It conveys what Mother 1 is perfectly.

Anonymous Sun Oct 5 20:31:18 2014 No.1986057

So I'm replaying the first game (GBA Version with fan patch), and maybe I just remember wrong, but was the encounter rate upped in the GBA version? I know it has free movement compared to the NES version, but it seems like I'm getting into fights way more than I should be. Without grinding at all, I'm already level 20 in fucking Magicant the first time you get there. I'm getting into battles while only moving one pixel over compared to a full tile in the NES version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 20:32:23 2014 No.1986060 >>1986057 Also figured I should mention that I don't have the easy ring on either. I skipped that present.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 20:33:26 2014 No.1986061 >>1984909 Dialog text is untouched. Tomato didn't want to do the hacking for the M2 side of things since it would have been more complicated than the M3 patch and his main goal was a retranslation of M1. Just play EarthBound on SNES for M2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 20:57:12 2014 No.1986115 >>1986057 >>1986060 Also, to add onto these questions, was the repel ring always a used item? I have the Gold Ring/Goddess Bracelet already equipped, but equipping the repel ring didn't remove it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 5 21:12:21 2014 No.1986151 >>1967837 You're thinking of Chutes and Ladders, anon.. In some variations the chutes are snakes, but I think that's kind of grasping at straws.

Anonymous Mon Oct 6 00:58:32 2014 No.1986565

>>1986057
>>1986060
In case anyone cares or not, from what I could find online, apparently the encounter rate was increased in the GBA version. Which could explain why I'm so much stronger at Snowman (knowing exactly where I'm going and fighting all the encounters without grinding and level 28) compared to how strong I was in the NES game (Where, with grinding, wandering aimlessly, and fighting all the battles, I was only about 16 or so).

So, yeah, I could see why somebody would want the easy ring since it lowers the encounter rate slightly on top of getting rid of grinding. That said, in the GBA version, with how strong I am just from fighting, I don't see why grinding would be needed either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 6 06:47:55 2014 No.1986948 >>1977707 The dragon and twins thing is based on the myths of native americans (iroquois, particularly their myth about how the world was created). I think it was just coincidence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 6 22:20:02 2014 No.1988405 File: 435 KB, 689x700, 37110013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is there so much fanart of these kids hanging out when they barely talk to each other?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 6 23:23:39 2014 No.1988545 >>1988405 >if it doesn't happen on screen it doesn't happen >every RPG ever happens the way it does on my game screen, accurately, pixel for pixel How does it feel to have no imagination and zero creativity anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 03:47:42 2014 No.1988979 >>1986061 Earthbound for SNES has superior music anyways. GBA music quality is kind of bad. I wish it wasn't because Mother 3 was only on the GBA.

Anonymous Tue Oct 7 03:49:51 2014 No.1988981

>>1988979

I appreciate the atmosphere that earthbounds music brings to the game and the creepiness it adds to it overall, but I don't really think any of the music is all that great, sure there are some stand out tunes, but a lot of the music has weird dissonance in it, that makes it hard to like.

With that said I can only imagine how awful it would sound on the GBA.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 05:16:42 2014 No.1989070 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hVuv7mDNqM

Anonymous Tue Oct 7 15:11:06 2014 No.1989787

>>1988979
Oh, I don't disagree. I'm just saying his main goal was M1 since Mato thinks EB already had a really good translation. The impression I got wasn't even that he though M1 had a bad translation more that it was disconnected in tone from EB and his own M3 patch due to niggling translation issues.

Anonymous Tue Oct 7 15:20:59 2014 No.1989814

>>1958848
>>1959168
>Playing through EB the first time
>Get some sword drop
>"Oh, cool"
>Try to put it on everyone
>Poo can equip it
>Think that's neat and go on with the game
>Years later
>Find out the sword is an ultra rare drop people have spent their whole lives trying to get
Well, shit, I guess I got pretty lucky.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 17:24:21 2014 No.1990082 >>1988545 Feels bad man

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 17:29:59 2014 No.1990093 Why does EB cost more than every other game on the eShop?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 17:31:50 2014 No.1990103 >>1990093 *SNES game

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 17:37:12 2014 No.1990115 >>1990093 because they know its still discounted versus buying a physical copy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 18:37:34 2014 No.1990217 >>1990093 Nintendo is still desperately trying to make back their money from the scrapped localization of Mother 1, as well as the huge loss from trying to sell Earthbound in the US.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 18:53:01 2014 No.1990257 get with the future: http://www.mother4game.com/

Anonymous Tue Oct 7 18:56:51 2014 No.1990261

Hey guys, so over the past 7 years on this website I've tried to play EB (mother 2) like 5 times. I usually get to the cave and get my shit shoved in or something making me quit everytime and say "i'll play again later". Seeing you all love it so much, is it worth it for me to try my best to get past that, or am I looking at like I'll just be a failure who doesn't "get" EB?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 18:59:02 2014 No.1990262 >>1990261 Abuse fast forward and the auto win.

Anonymous Tue Oct 7 19:38:46 2014 No.1990319

>>1990261
What cave, m8? I can't really remember many areas I had trouble with my first time, but cave is pretty vague. There's like six or seven places that could be vaguely described as a cave. I guess my best advice would be to use more buffs and status ailments if you can and have the PP for it, but early on that's a problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 21:20:15 2014 No.1990462 >>1990257 I hope there's a point where all three kids try to pile into Leo's bike

Anonymous Tue Oct 7 21:29:20 2014 No.1990486

>>1946543

Does anyone else feel like Earthbound starts off challenging, but then gets easier early on? The only sections I remember having trouble with are the parts where I was using only Ness. For example, the part before you get the Pencil Eraser. The only difficult part after you get party members is the shopping mall part IMO

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 21:36:21 2014 No.1990498 >>1990486 Ness becomes OP as hell pretty early on, but it seems like the games difficulty fluctuates from a Nintendo Hard to Jokishly easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 22:19:03 2014 No.1990604 >>1990486 It gets challenging as soon as you get in the cave of the past

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 7 23:32:05 2014 No.1990742 >>1990462 the "party separation" moment could a character falling off

Anonymous Wed Oct 8 10:17:46 2014 No.1991341
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So about to play this series for the first time.

How do I play it then? Any thing fan made or translated I should check out, or do I just play it Mother, Earthbound, Mother 3?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 10:22:42 2014 No.1991352 >>1983885 I've asked on the Starmen.net forum and they confirmed that what's written on the EB wikia is unsourced and that the website can' be really trusted anyway. So yes, I'd say it's a coincidence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 10:51:20 2014 No.1991380 >>1991341 GBA Mother with the easy ring, SNES Earthbound, Mother 3. That's the best order. If you can't stomach Mother, you can play Earthbound first. I don't recommend it, though. Even so, play Mother 3 last.

Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:17:52 2014 No.1992002
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my gf just finished her first playthrough i forced her into (she loved it), so i been doing some paintings

definitely agree with winters + lost underworld being the cosiest/10 places, maybe i should paint those next

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:23:46 2014 No.1992012 >>1988405 What a fucking amazing fanart, I love it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:28:41 2014 No.1992021 I just finished Mother 3 oh man reading about the end fight before didn't faze me but "Come to your mother... You must be so exhausted." fuck man also how they talked directly to me at the END? part

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:28:50 2014 No.1992024 >>1990257 Boy that looks amazing! I can't wait.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:30:20 2014 No.1992026 >>1992021 Also should I now play NES Earth Bound (Zero) or GBA Mother 1? I think the only difference is translations.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:31:43 2014 No.1992028 >>1992002 Man that's cool! Do you have a DeviantART account or a website where we can check your paintings?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:32:47 2014 No.1992030 >>1992026 SNES EB for sure! That's what I'd do. And yes the ending of Mother 3, oh god... ;__;

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:33:41 2014 No.1992032 >>1992030 >SNES EB for sure! Thanks, but I was asking specifically about the original game. Sorry if I worded it awkwardly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:35:45 2014 No.1992036 >>1992028 thank you! i have a tumblr! - http://ollylawson.tumblr.com (and a fb which is linked on there)

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:36:11 2014 No.1992037 >>1984632 >>1984630 What does the Ness's reflection say about the size of a starman? I guess it would be pretty huge, because it looks like Ness is facing straight up.

Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:37:15 2014 No.1992041

>>1992032
Ooh sorry I read to fast. I think the GBA version has a better sound quality, and it has also the easy ring cheat (which allows you to avoid grinding so much and reduces the encounter rate). In the NES version you have to grind a LOT. I've never played the GBA version, though.

Hope you enjoy it! Will you play EB after that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:38:56 2014 No.1992046 >>1992041 Oops, I meant worse sound quality! God I can't do function properly today, sorry.

Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:40:37 2014 No.1992048

>>1992041
EB0 actually does have an easy ring patch actually http://starmen.net/mother1/easypatch/

>Hope you enjoy it! Will you play EB after that?
I actually started it a while back on my Wii with a SNES emulator, I got up to the fight with Belch, but I've since lost the SD card with my save data. Right now I'm pretty interested in M1/EB0 so I'll play that before started EB again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:41:20 2014 No.1992053 >>1992037 Yeah, they must be pretty big. That's what makes them so scary. Imagine a 3 mt alien chasing you, I would fucking die from a heart attack.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:52:36 2014 No.1992076 >>1992002 This needs more attention. Do you have a blog or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 8 18:57:59 2014 No.1992089 >>1992076 thanks! see >>1992036

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 01:12:23 2014 No.1992631 >>1992053 >chasing Smash Bros confirms that they don't ever change their pose. Hands on the hips at all times, and they actually don't even move. They teleport. If anything it'd be like Slender.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 01:15:01 2014 No.1992634 Hey guys This just came out, check it out. pretty nice tribute to the Mother fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hVuv7mDNqM

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 05:20:31 2014 No.1992787 File: 24 KB, 501x501, 1402394829.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1988981 >earthbounds music isn't all that great

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 05:21:33 2014 No.1992789 >>1990261 Just use the fucking starmen.net walkthrough, you goober.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 05:25:36 2014 No.1992794 >>1990261 The beginning of the game can be rough for some people, once you save Paula it gets much less frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 05:29:17 2014 No.1992797 >>1988981 You sound like a person that like more upbeat music in games, believe me when i say some of us are huge fans of the more strange OST's.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 11:53:38 2014 No.1993161 Did Gigyas ever ply a critical role in Mother 3? The only think I can think of is how Proky's attacks were perceived similarly to Gigyas'.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 12:04:15 2014 No.1993174 What parts in Mother did you guys need a guide for? >Getting past Magicant guards >the canary melody >getting through Mt Itoi

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 12:05:18 2014 No.1993178 Well guys, I beat Earthbound for the first time last night. I almost cried during the credits. I was so excited to best it but now I'm sad that it's over. I just hope the other two Mother glances are this good. Which should I play next?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 12:10:04 2014 No.1993185 How badly did Flint neglect Lucas during the middle of the game? It wasn't intentional on Flint's part, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 13:08:02 2014 No.1993272 >>1992634 B-beautiful ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 13:10:03 2014 No.1993276 >>1993174 I used a guide for the canary thing, and I think I also used it for Rosemary's house.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 13:11:28 2014 No.1993279 >>1993178 I think you should play Mother 3, but that's up to you tbh.

Anonymous Thu Oct 9 13:34:11 2014 No.1993314

>>1993174
My first playthrough, I didn't use a guide at all because I didn't have the internet. For my second playthrough which I did a week ago, I used maps for some of the major dungeons because I didn't feel like dealing with that shit, especially since the GBA version had an upped encounter rate from the NES version and I was getting six, 1 pixel battles in a row very often.

That said, the placed I remember not having any trouble at all in my first run (Spookane Manor and Duncan's Factory) gave me shitloads of trouble in my second run. On the contrary, places that were hell in my first run (Desert, Swamp, Mt. Itoi) were easy peasy, so I guess that was neat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 21:22:37 2014 No.1994209 >>1993178 Oh, and I forgot to mention... The metal song that plays as you fight Pokey was fucking AWESOME. How come nobody ever brings that song up? Also, does Pokey make a return in Mother 3? Or should i just wait and see?

Anonymous Thu Oct 9 21:36:00 2014 No.1994231

>>1994209
1. Pokey Means Business is one of the more based songs of the soundtrack. My friend who's into music said he'd play EB just after listening to that tune. There's another 8-bit sounding track in M3 that is also fucking amazing, but I won't spoil anything for you.
On that note, play the game, and don't ask that last question ever again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 21:38:25 2014 No.1994237 >>1992634 made me sob.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 9 22:12:36 2014 No.1994279 I just realized the Subspace Emissary's Zoo level was the same Zoo from Mother 1. Fucking fantastic >>1992634 this was pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:02:16 2014 No.1994962 >>1990257 I really don't like the concept of this. I'm all for fan games and games inspired by Mother but I think they should have done their own thing. I'm probably being a wet blanket though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:05:48 2014 No.1994968 File: 64 KB, 400x240, 1412935548413.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1992631 Have you tried hitting the Starmen in Smash Bros' Smash Run with Ness' bat?

Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:13:01 2014 No.1994979

>>1993161

Giygas was the reason that Porkey had time travel, which causes Porkey to be stuck on Nowhere Islands.

Does anyone find it creepy how in the ending Porky essentially creates a gigantic mechanical womb with the absolutely safe capsule? His form before that looked like a baby in a crib, and in Mother 2 he was just a child. He basically went back to the womb. That was disturbing looking back on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:15:11 2014 No.1994981 File: 64 KB, 400x240, DQO4gfe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1992631 Have you tried hitting the Starmen in Smash Bros with Ness' bat?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:15:40 2014 No.1994982 >>1994979 >le edgy fetus meme can you just not

Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:17:35 2014 No.1994984

>>1994982
That "meme" is a shitty theory from Mother 2, and has absolutely nothing to do with Mother 3. I agree that it's shitty. But to ignore the basic symbolism in Mother 3 while throwing around a bunch of buzz words like we're in /v/ while not even understanding what you're talking about makes you look like a shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:19:45 2014 No.1994986 File: 71 KB, 376x137, shut up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Because a game named Mother would in no way have feminine symbolism.

Anonymous Fri Oct 10 06:22:42 2014 No.1994995

>>1994986
Also triple post because I have a giant pet peeve for shitty fan theories. He isn't literally a fetus. Nobody is literally a fetus. Fuck that game theory website and their shitty link is dead theory too while I'm at it, and fuck cracked. It's just symbolism for how Porkey is a giant eternal manchild like we are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 10:39:47 2014 No.1995274 >>1993185 >tfw i kept on going back to lucas's house to see if he was home

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 10:50:06 2014 No.1995287 >>1995274 >As the game goes on, there are more flowers on Hinawa's grave

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 12:10:05 2014 No.1995375 does /vr/ do spoilers in posting? I figure if it's here, it been out long enough

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 12:11:07 2014 No.1995376 >>1995375 revisal: I can see spoiling M3 since that's technically not /vr/

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 12:26:02 2014 No.1995394 >>1995375 A lot of people on here warn for spoilers. I don't understand the whole "it's been out long enough" thing. That doesn't mean everyone's played the game in question.

Anonymous Fri Oct 10 12:35:12 2014 No.1995415

>>1995375
>I figure if it's here, it been out long enough
I hate this rationalization, even when it comes to video games. There have been dozens of twists or plot developments in many forms of media that were ruined for me as someone casually threw out spoilers for something that has "been out for a year".

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 15:18:44 2014 No.1995748 >>1995274 What was with the doorknob that kept getting passed around anyways?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 15:37:30 2014 No.1995787 >>1946543 I loved earthbound beyond belief but i dropped mother 3 around 5 hours in. Should i give it another chance? Does it get better?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 15:38:32 2014 No.1995790 >>1995787 Keep in mind that i got spoiled the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 16:09:48 2014 No.1995860 ...

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 10 23:09:55 2014 No.1996429 >>1995787 It feels more like a MOTHER game when you get to play as Lucas, but then it just feels kind of short, and linear.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 11 10:10:47 2014 No.1997147 >>1995790 Damn man. Well, you can give it another try, but there's no point in playing something you're not enjoying. I didn't really like it THAT much either.

Anonymous Sat Oct 11 21:58:36 2014 No.1998536

Oh wow. My team was so stronk, that I got to the praying part of the final boss in EB before the end of the previous turn from fighting Pokey. I got stuck because I thought the thing Pokey said was just the first thing due to how fast it happened. It wasn't until everyone but Paula was dead (due to me putting all the highest statted equipment on her by chance), I was completely out of items, and her PP ran out that I tried praying as a last resort.

And then I fucking cried like a bitch in Smiles And Tears.

I also didn't know your dad could call you in the after credits scene to take a break and quit playing the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 09:36:14 2014 No.1999471 >>1958386 Man I am tempted, but I have never heard of that site before. Is it legit? Anyone else had any experience with it? Obviously the cartridge is fake, I just don't want my credit card details stolen or whatever.

Anonymous Sun Oct 12 11:53:53 2014 No.1999623

>>1995394
When something's been "out long enough" it's not that everyone played the game, but that by the time you heard of the game, you've probably already been spoiled on most of what happens in the game due to it being common knowledge or something to that kind.

Anonymous Sun Oct 12 11:59:28 2014 No.1999628

>>1946543
I have a question about this
I want to play all three games, but I would like to know the best way to do this.
I have a Visualboy with Mother 3 (translated)
I also have Mother 1+2 for the Visualboy, but it says that only menus have been translated
So I have one for SNES and the Rom is Earthbound.
Am I all set /vr/?

Anonymous Sun Oct 12 12:20:19 2014 No.1999653
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Just started a new game of Earthbound a couple of days ago. With all the hype I see for it nowadays, I was cynical enough about it. But the music and setting are just so good. Haters be trippin.

Then I had a full inventory when the HappyHappy leader was suppose to give me the key. Then I saved. He won't give it to me. Now I've to start all over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 12:26:57 2014 No.1999664 >>1999653 When you say you saved, you mean you saved in-game or save state? >>1999628 you're all set. play mother 1 translaton patch on GBA, and EB on SNES emu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 12:32:48 2014 No.1999672 >>1999664 in-game. I don't state save.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 13:17:56 2014 No.1999750 >>1999653 It didn't just go to Tracy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 14:13:03 2014 No.1999890 >>1999653 what get rid of something and talk to him again or like >>1999750 said just check with trucy I talked to him with a full inventory, too, in my last playthrough which was like two days ago and I was able to get the key.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 14:14:20 2014 No.1999894 >>1999653 >Then I had a full inventory when the HappyHappy leader was suppose to give me the key. Then I saved. He won't give it to me. Now I've to start all over. Nope. It either went to Tracy or you have to remove something and talk to him again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 17:58:40 2014 No.2000439 File: 135 KB, 520x454, bmo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1999750 >>1999890 >>1999894 Nope. I just thought Key to the Cabin was Key to the Shack. I'm an idiot.

Anonymous Sun Oct 12 18:38:04 2014 No.2000531
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Runaway Five are so shit. I've recently learned that they were basically just the Blues Brothers in Mother 2, which would have been much better. Instead it looks like a ripoff of the Blues Brothers that didn't look or sound good.

No wonder everyone leaves before they come on.

Anonymous Sun Oct 12 19:58:34 2014 No.2000679

>>1998536
>And then I fucking cried like a bitch in Smiles And Tears.

SSB4 spoilers. Oh god I thought that was just me. I hate how they chose that song for SSB4, and 8 melodies for its other themesong. Those songs make me cry like a fucking bitch so they make terrible fighting music.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 20:02:54 2014 No.2000684 >>2000531 and no wonder they had no money

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 12 20:03:49 2014 No.2000685 >>2000531 There's also six of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 13 02:46:57 2014 No.2001385 >>2000685 They were Tonzura Brothers in the original, which is like "Runaway Brothers"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 13 13:11:57 2014 No.2002095 >>2000531 They're basically just the Blues Brothers in Earthbound, as well.

Anonymous Mon Oct 13 14:38:21 2014 No.2002225

Well I also finished Earthbound today and I quite liked it.
I was a little disapointed at times because the game has been overhyped for decades, so when I reached a part I kinda heard about it was sometimes not so great compared to what I expected.
But that's not the fault of the game, and it's still awesome despite that.
>>2000531
Venus fanboy, please.

I should go back to mother 1 one day, I tried it a long time ago and it was pretty fun, but the fights every 5 steps kinda annoyed me. I remenber stoping after the first Starman fight in the zoo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 13 16:13:26 2014 No.2002431 >>2002225 >but the fights every 5 steps kinda annoyed me GBA version is worse with the encounter rate unless you're using the easy patch. 5 1-pixel battles in a row. Tons of fun.

Anonymous Mon Oct 13 16:34:41 2014 No.2002487

I'm going to finally get around to starting the series, was going to start with the first game using the GBA translation, but then I saw in another thread someone mentioning the 25th anniversery romhack. Which do you guys think would be better for a first time player? I do like the look of the romhack a bit more than the washed out GBA, and the music in these GBA ports of NES/SNES games is always a bit of a downgrade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 13 16:42:07 2014 No.2002507 >>2002487 The NES music isn't that bad in Mother 1 GBA. Mother 2 GBA has horrible music, but that isn't translated so don't worry about that anyway. Just play the GBA version of Mother and use the easy ring.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 14 01:45:48 2014 No.2003617 Someone was streaming that anniversary romhack earlier, it was actually pretty decent looking, had some odd bugs though so I doubt it'll be out any time soon. I really hope that one guy eventually finishes his remake with the Earthbound engine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 00:49:22 2014 No.2005740 >>2002507 The Mother 1 GBA music is pretty grating and annoying to me, personally. Compare these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JGkPieR6nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrFeZBw-FHA

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 08:48:02 2014 No.2006126 >>2005740 Doesn't sound that bad to me. I'm saying this as somebody who just did a full playthrough, as well. I thought the game sounded fine enough.

Anonymous Wed Oct 15 09:14:35 2014 No.2006158
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>>2003617
Yeah, it looks pretty solid. Also looks like the dev thankfully changed the mario pipe trees. Probably won't be out for another 2 weeks though because he's letting 2 more people beta test it before release.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 13:46:58 2014 No.2006494 >>1994981 That actually doesn't happen if you hit the Starmen with your bat directly, that only happens when you reflect their shots back at them and Ness's bat reflects attacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 15:15:34 2014 No.2006635 >>1946670 >>1946689 >>1961036 >>1961048 >>1963012 >Mother / Earthbound Zero >Mother 2 / Earthbound > Mother 3 / Earthbound 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 15:21:21 2014 No.2006641 >>1956975 >Compares sales of completely different generations. >Discounts Smash Bros Effect

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 20:41:23 2014 No.2007293 is it ok if i play earthbound first before mother?

Anonymous Wed Oct 15 21:02:26 2014 No.2007328
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>>2007293

you will miss on the whole backstory for the main antagonist. play mother 1 first.
Play them in order if you care about having the best possible experience out of the trilogy

Anonymous Wed Oct 15 21:41:59 2014 No.2007418 [DELETED]

>I really hope that one guy eventually finishes his remake with the Earthbound engine.

It's been in the making for so long that I doubt he would just abandon it. I don't think there's much left other than some ASM hacking and doing the interiors to some buildings. They're done with all the music, sprites and overworld map.

Anonymous Wed Oct 15 21:43:19 2014 No.2007421

>>2003617
>I really hope that one guy eventually finishes his remake with the Earthbound engine.

It's been in the making for so long that I doubt he would just abandon it. I don't think there's much left other than some ASM hacking and doing the interiors to some buildings. They're done with all the music, sprites and overworld map.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 23:24:43 2014 No.2007593 >>2006494 You're right. I took that screenshot from someone else who got it wrong. I guess the bat must have reflected the projectile from the Starman which is why that guy got it wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 15 23:36:36 2014 No.2007617 >>1950195 This

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 10:24:50 2014 No.2008217 >>1999471 are you asking if a site with an ipo that laughs at facebook and amazon together is legit? an asian company with as much money as google?

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 11:14:54 2014 No.2008286

>>1949172
>'Zero' was a suffix added by a group of no-talent hackers who decided the world would get confused if an NES game named EarthBound would come out.

Actually the the rom dumper that paid for access to the prototype cart added it to the rom image because the guy that bought the prototype cart was an apprehensive assclown, that did not want to "devalue" his investment. And if we had "repro carts" back then, a hacked title screen would be the last thing you'd be bitching about, because he never would have allowed it to be dumped to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 12:26:53 2014 No.2008408 >>2007328 anyone know what happened with those child actors?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 13:08:05 2014 No.2008474 >>1977108 >tfw no friends

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 16:02:40 2014 No.2008805 >>2007293 I played EB before Mother and I'm glad I did tbh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 19:45:03 2014 No.2009295 >>1950195 Was the experience ring in the original Japanese game or is it an addition from the fan translators?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 20:20:07 2014 No.2009371 >>2009295 Addition by the fan translators. Lowers encounter rate and doubles the EXP/Money. The GBA version has an upped encounter rate from the NES version, so using the easy ring is recommended unless you like battles every other pixel.

Anonymous Thu Oct 16 22:55:53 2014 No.2009695

Does anyone else find Mother 3 harder than EB and M1? I've been marathoning the series starting with the GBA version of Mother 1 (no easy ring), and I pretty much just stomped my way through M1 and EB. Hell, in EB, Jeff was doing upwards of 1700-2000 HP of damage per turn with Multirockets. I hit Pokey so hard in the final fight, he dropped in one turn. Yet in M3, it feels like I'm almost always weaker than what I'm fighting by quite a bit, bosses seem like I'm always on the edge of losing, and I feel like I never have enough money. I'm not very good at comboing, so maybe that's it? I feel like I'm in sync with the music, but I still get only 3-7 hits (with 10-16 if I'm lucky).

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 16 23:27:59 2014 No.2009774 >>2009695 >Does anyone else find Mother 3 harder than EB and M1? Absolutely not. MAYBE if you play the hard mode that's awarded for seeing all the enemies in the game from the front and back, but definitely not vanilla Mother 3.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 00:25:58 2014 No.2009894

>>2009774
Then why does the game always feel like it's against me much more than M1 and 2 were? I had played all the games previously before a few years ago, but I'm having just loads of trouble with Mother 3. Game Overs left and right. The only thing I could think of is grinding, but I doubt that's it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 00:28:38 2014 No.2009898 >>2009894 How are you utilizing your party members? Also, have you got rhythm? Despite people saying the emulators are bugged you should be able to pull of some 12+ combos for a good portion of the songs.

Anonymous Fri Oct 17 00:33:34 2014 No.2009909

>>2009898
Lucas healing and support, attacking when he can.

Kumatora primarily offensive PSI, debuffing offense and other shit when needed.

Duster using his thief tools when they work. Otherwise attacking and backup healing with items.

Boney pretty much the same as Duster, except with more rockets when I can afford them.

I pretty much play Lucas and Kumatora exactly the way I used Ninten/Ness and Anna/Paula.

>Also, have you got rhythm?
I feel like I'm on beat with the song, but, no, probably not. I mentioned I get 3-7 hits on the easier songs. Most of the time it's just 1-2 hits. I'm using VBA-M which, aside from a weird menu bug that causes the menu music to fast forward, seems pretty on cue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:10:03 2014 No.2010916 >>1999471 I just said fuck it and pulled the trigger, i have never played any mother/earthbound game, i love playing on the gba or gb player, so a new game is always welcome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:27:52 2014 No.2010953 >>2010916 Not that anon, but I just got mine yesterday, it works and plays like a charm. you'll love it. Now if only I could find a decent mother 1+2 repro that didn't have save issues.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 17 14:54:09 2014 No.2011001 >>1957139 Then you have utter shit taste, honestly. You've missed what Mother is, as the spirit is very intact in 3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:17:53 2014 No.2013258 Does the easy ring in mother make the game better or worse? By better I mean like the SNES dragon quest remakes (less grind, better flow) and by worse I mean it loses all difficulty and becomes a guided tour.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:21:08 2014 No.2013265 >>1958348 I dont think we would ever see Mother 3 with an E rating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 16:58:04 2014 No.2013343 >>2013258 Lowers encounter rate and pretty much gets rid of grinding. Depending on your definition of difficulty, that might very. The GBA version has a higher encounter rate than the NES version, so I'd recommend using it just because of that alone.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 17:20:19 2014 No.2013394

>>2013343
I think I'm comfortable with the difficulty based on the limited distance I've gone in the game so far. The atmosphere is good so I haven't cared much that enemies can't put a dent in me. I just hope that there are some tricky boss fights or something down the road. I know not to expect as fun of a combat as Mother 3 had, but it may be a bit dull to just flyswatter my way through Mother 1.

Anonymous Sat Oct 18 17:34:33 2014 No.2013421

>>2013394
I wasn't implying the number of encounters were really that difficult. More that they get really annoying. But I've lost my patience with 1-step, 1-pixel random encounters over the years, so maybe I'm just spoiled now. There are some bosses that can be a pain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 17:45:34 2014 No.2013439 >>2013421 As long as there are some fights which are threatening I'll be fine. I can laugh off the 1-pixel encounters enough to get through this game, and all the while be thankful that only crazy game devs still use random encounters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 19:53:01 2014 No.2013646 Is there rom hack for NES Mother or is the easy modo ring available only in GBA version?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 18 20:25:05 2014 No.2013709 >>2013646 there is: http://earthboundcentral.com/2008/11/earthbound-zero-easy-patch/ but you really should play the GBA version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 19 10:08:42 2014 No.2014716 So I just got to the rocket in Duncan Factory but the geeky boy is dead, does it mean what I think it means? ._.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 20 13:35:11 2014 No.2017006 >>1957139 Funnily enough the original concept for Mother 3 was going to be wildly different no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 20 13:46:42 2014 No.2017039 >>1960069 >which akes sense because the encounter rate in that game is ridiculous Even WITH the ring on, the encounter rate can be ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 21 18:22:59 2014 No.2019554 >>1946596 >Dr. Andonuts, I'm DX

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 21 20:16:23 2014 No.2019864 >>2008408 rip

Anonymous Wed Oct 22 01:32:35 2014 No.2020524

>>1946543
>The silly artwork, the strange music, the most odd world to ever imagine
>Modern-Day settings, not swords and dragons
>All wrapped up behind a serious message by Itoi that has a Kojima charm at the end of Earthbound

It's a serious game that takes itself not serious at all. It's just it's own thing and doesn't really borrow anything else. So fun. May replay it again

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 01:46:39 2014 No.2020553 Mother 3 never gets difficult at all. Also, most of the dungeons are too short.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 01:50:22 2014 No.2020560 >>2013709 Toss up between slightly better music or censorship & clunky translation. You get used to the music in the GBA version.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 02:02:40 2014 No.2020581 File: 10 KB, 231x176, 1413443071488.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1946596 lel'd hard

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 04:43:06 2014 No.2020704 >>2020553 I played it way back before the translation patch. Beat it by spamming heal items and PK love without even knowing what most of the skills or enemy attacks even did.

Anonymous Wed Oct 22 11:30:13 2014 No.2021064

>>2020553
I had a harder time with it than I did with M1 or M2. I always felt like I was out of money or too weak. I also have no rhythm, so I was hitting 1-2 hits constantly. I also don't remember any PP healing items outside of the obvious Magic tarts/cakes/whatever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 11:41:06 2014 No.2021081 >>2021064 >I also have no rhythm, so I was hitting 1-2 hits constantly. Just always tap along. Eventually, you'll get some hits in. Hell, I managed to get the max amount once by sheer luck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 11:42:54 2014 No.2021083 >>2021081 I know the beat, but I must have been off because even when it felt like I was tapping to the beat, I would still only get 1-2 hits. This was also with using Duster to hypnotize enemies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 11:44:58 2014 No.2021084 >>2021083 Depending on the emulator you're using, there might be a delay issue going on. That tends to be a prominent problem.

Anonymous Wed Oct 22 11:47:57 2014 No.2021090

>>2021084
It was VBA-M, which had a weird bug in the menu, but seemed pretty on? I also tried VBA-Next and I tended to get combos more often, so that might be the case. If it was, though, VBA-M had to only be off by a very slight delay.

More likely, I was just out of rhythm enough to fuck me up. I doubt it was the game or emulator.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 22 17:40:31 2014 No.2021603 >>2020704 I dunno what you guys are doing different; I'm pretty good at the battle system and most of my specials and tricks work, but the enemies do a ton of damage. I only won against the cello by a fluke.

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