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So back in the old times, when high-speed Internet was not yet a thing, when no one had ever even heard of the ISO Zone or BitTorrent, where did you source your retro warez from?

>> No.1931527

BBS

>> No.1931591

stolen ftp servers but that's like 2001 so not really /vr/ material
before that it was just friends trading CDs
and before that it was my dad bringing floppy disks from his colleagues at work

>> No.1931657

How old is old times?

2002 ~ 2005, Kazaa and Emule
1999 ~ 2002, private ftp servers, xdcc irc channels, warez sites and abandonware sites for DOS games
1996 ~ 1999, buying pirate CDs that were sold through ads in the classified sections of local newspapers. You could ask them to build a custom CD for you full of smaller or ripped games until they filled the space on the CD. Fun times
.
Before that, just trading floppy disks with friends.

>> No.1931703

>>1931657
Let's stick to the 1990's.

Those custom CD's... How and where were they made? I remember seeing them some time before the first consumer CD-R drives became common. My late cousin had a stack of those pirate CDs in his home, he used to bring those back with him during his student years every time he came back home for vacation, and I in fact sourced most of my 1990's PC games from him. Tomb Raider, Mortal Kombat, Bioforge, Alone in the Dark, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D... I got my hands on those solely because of my cous, and I always wondered, where the hell did those CD's came from?

Rest in peace J, you always shared and were always a true bro and I miss you for that. ;_;7

>> No.1931717

>>1931519
In the 80's we would copy floppy disks from one to another. Also, my cousin would get "cracked"versions of games back then. I don't know how he got a hold of them, but it was great when he used to give me a floppy full of cracked games for my apple II.

When the internet became popular in the mid 90's, I remember there already being emulation websites. Zophar's Doman, Dave's Classics, and many many more which I can't remember the names of. I think Zophar's is still around...

In the late 90's and early 2000's it was all IRC. People would open up ftp servers with upload/download quotas. They would get all sorts of new shit uploaded to them in exchange for their bandwidth.

After that, things really took off and stuff became relatively easy to find.

>> No.1931725

i usually just stole shit the old fashioned way: physically

>> No.1931734

>>1931527
I used BBS' only briefly in 1996 or 1997, when they were already dying off, and my career as a pirate consisted of someone sending me Worms and maybe Doom 2 as well. But I've read a lot of stories from the BBS era and it seems like piracy then was really no different from piracy on the Web today.

I got a few warez CDs from a friend in the 90s but I don't remember engaging in much if any piracy. I was probably too busy playing Quake.

>> No.1931735

The only thing I've pirated in the late 90s were ROMs. At least those sites weren't that different from today, only slower. Downloading Samurai Shodown 4 with 3kb wasn't fun at all. Also, lots of malware.

And don't forget to delete your roms after 24 hours.

>> No.1931743

In my high school there was a computer in one of the study rooms that someone had put Doom on. They hid the .exe file in a hard to find place so that the teachers wouldn't find it. Word got around and soon people were installing other games on the same file. Sometimes people would bring 3.5 floppy disks and copy them or put a new one on.

>> No.1931746

80s-early 90s BBSs
mid-late 90s IRC channels with filebots

>> No.1931750

>>1931735
haha, yes! remember all of those disclaimers. Also, I remember starting downloads for a neo geo games before I went to bed and then seeing if they finished when I woke up.

>> No.1931827

>>1931519
I ran a single line Wildcat! BBS from 1990 until 1995 and a C-Net 64 BBS briefly before that. I got most of my warez at the time though those.

In the late 80's, I used to go to monthly copy parties where people would lug their C64's and 1541's to someone's house. We'd eat pizza and copy disks all day long.

>> No.1931841

>old, old days
BBS
>old days
Usenet

>> No.1931876

>>1931841
Oh yeah I forgot the usenet! So much porn, too!

>> No.1931904

>>1931725
That's not pirating.

This subject interests me because I like reading about the cracker groups. I also like some of the e-magazines some of them published, just for looking through.

>> No.1931912

>>1931519
Asta****sta for cracks (still reliable)
Private FTPs and public FTPs for software
Russian repositories of high dollar shit

Before dialup, I traded floppies with people and copied the piss out of them.

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Lots of good read:

http://textfiles.com/piracy/

All hail the warez!

>> No.1931968

>>1931939
>textfiles.com

Muh nostalgia

>> No.1931973
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1931973

How was the Amiga scene?

>> No.1931974

>>1931519
i mostly downloaded roms from vimm.net
kazaa for everything else

>> No.1932137

>>1931912
You can't say Astalavista on 4chan?

>> No.1932221

The only thing I remember about downloading roms in retro times was the string of "vote for my website" surveys I had to go through, a process that only rarely led to me being allowed to download a rom. You guys who complain about captchas don't even know.

>> No.1932225

>>1931519
Back in Spectrum times, in Russia games and soft were periodically broadcasted through radio, that was supposed to be recorded on tape then fed to Spectrum in order to swap to floppy. Fun times.

>> No.1932267

FTP mostly. Being part of a community that was all about sharing, everyone pitching in to scan/tag/upload, stealing other groups FTP's, that moment when someone from another channel would pop in and announce a new release... Piracy was such an adventure before bittorrent.

>> No.1932281

I downloaded Sonic 3 & Knuckles for the PC on an Abandonware website, also, since I live in a third world country (Mexico) games were expensive, so I had a modded PSone and bought a bunch of burned games from flea markets, I think the modchip made it unable to read original games.

>> No.1932296

>>1931519

In late 1990's roms were easy to find in normal direct download sites. Only Neo Geo's roms often required ftp servers due to their size. During the first half of the decade illegal copies of pre CD-Rom pc and microcomputer games were easy to find, at least in Europe. In particular the piracy of Amiga and Atari ST games was so rampant that some stores sold copies for the equivalent of few dollars.

>> No.1932304

The guy down at the flea market. That's all you needed. He sold a console device that looked like an N64 control except it had cables for hooking up to your TV set. It came loaded with retro games up the ass and a slot underneath for inserting some cartridge that probably never existed. Good times were fucking had.

>> No.1932317

I was an ignorant fool, totally unaware of piracy. Had I known, I would've picked up a dreamcast on day 1.

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>>1932304
I have one.
Its called a Power Joy, and it takes Famicom cartridges.

>> No.1932325

>>1931717
Wow, zophar's domain. I haven't hheard or seen that name in well over a decade. Memory lane braugh

>> No.1932330

>>1932317
I still remember in high school when my friend gave me a boot disc and a ton of emulators with ROMs for my dreamcast. Good times

>> No.1932368

>>1931519
i dunno. HOTU? i played mostly CD-based games or floppy dick shareware back in those darkie ages

>> No.1932378

>>1932321
oh fuck dude, I had one of those a solid decade ago man. Really fucking solid shit.

>> No.1932383

irc, hotwire and later p2p, file sharing with friends, and those rom sites with huge lists of roms

a lot of them didn't work (or weren't supported by emulators) or came packaged with suspicious scripts that probably a lot of retards fell for

I had a download manager so I'd queue up a few hundred files to pull down overnight

>> No.1932389

A question for our more senior members (as in teen+ in the 80s to early - mid 90s):

How often did games leak online prior to their retail releases? Was it common for prototype builds of games to leak out? Did people often import games from Japan (or live in Japan) and distribute the ROMs prior to their Western releases?

>> No.1932396

>>1932389

sometimes import roms (or physical copies) made their way in before release or were available on ebay. there were small games stores within an hour's drive where I could buy import shit and modchips but these were expensive and I didn't head out there too often

I imported misadventures of tron bonne because I didn't think it would get a us release. for some reason I also thought I'd manage to muddle through it in japanese or find a faq

>> No.1932423

>>1932396
I remember having my parents import JP Pokemon Gold for me for Christmas right after it came out. I think I remember even seeing a friend play a translated or perhaps partially translated patch of it before it came out in the US as well. I'm just kinda curious how things happened in the early SNES/NES/Genesis days, before widespread use of the www, when most dealings were apparently tied to newsgroups and whatnot.

>> No.1932464

>>1932383

>hotwire

I meant hotline... I made that mistake back in the day all the time too

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>>1931725
FIVE
FINGER
DISCOUNT

>> No.1932516

>>1932368
Oh god yes, I spent so much time at Home of the Underdogs reading up on interesting games.
Remember they hosted ripped games like Blood 2 back then.

My dad knew someone from work who made these custom CDs full of ripped games, loved those. Only years later did I find out that there actually was pr0n on there.

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1932616

80's through 1992: sneakernet (just copied stuff on floppy disk)
1993-94: BBS
1995-99: Usenet alt.binaries.* groups, IRC bots, various FTP sites (often legit high-bandwidth sites that got "hijacked" with warez hidden in /pub/incoming/.../ /empty/^C^[email protected]$%/ or similar directory structures).

Btw, one of the first IRC channels I found was #oldwarez on efnet. I think it's still around today, or at least it was last time I checked a few years ago. At one point, there was even a "retro warez" group called 8088 State that use to hang out in there and serve files.

>> No.1932626

>>1931519
Going through endless amounts of fake rom sites redirecting you to more advertisements

>> No.1932628

I copied C64 games with a double tape deck and traded tapes and discs with snailmail. We made copy parties, brought together all our tapes and discs and played and copied games through the night while watching horror movies. This was replaced by LAN parties in the 90s. Good times.

>> No.1932636

>>1931519
awful porn-ad-laden webrings with pain in the ass voting schemes

>> No.1932637

>>1932628
wow that sounds fantastic

>> No.1932701

>>1931743
>friend is an IT guy at school we went to
>some dickass kids have put files on an old, abandoned autocad folder
>star wars original movies
>file explorer to get full control over files (kids apparently can't right click ANYWHERE)
>miney crafty
>then my friend starts laughing so hard telling me this story
>one kid put both dooms and quake on there
>made a shortcut for it to be played with GZdoom even and had an instruction readme with the option of playing it with brutal doom
>buddy clears all of it after a while
>keeps doom

I want to give that kid a high five

>> No.1932838

>>1932701
usenet and trading mostly.

was i the only one that pronounced warez as war-az... somehow my preteen self didn't connect warez with software... silly boy

>> No.1932848

>>1932838
i quoted >>1932701 but forgot to add my story

when i was in highschool me and a friend bruteforce hacked the install user's password.
it was jolly
i installed halo on ever computer in the school.
study halls were kids playing halo
computer classes were kids playing halo
they kept deleting it, i kept installing it.
THEY NEVER CHANGED THE PASSWORD

they eventually gave up, it was still installed when my younger brother went through highschool

>> No.1932872

I remember buying a pirate copy of Shadow Warrior with a little manual and everything from a huge legit super market. I also once bought pirated Warcraft 2 7 in 1 from Toys 'r' us. I'm not even sure if it was a real release or all expansions crammed into a single cd. But most of the time I went to the pirate game and music floor of my local mall and all the games had proper jewel cases and prints on the CDs. In 2003~2005 they figured out that they didn't have to deal with stocking games and they could burn them on demand. From them on it is the same stuff you also probably are familiar with. This was in Turkey if anybody wonders.

>> No.1932908

>>1932848

You helped create frat boys with shit taste in vidya. Congrats on the hacking though.

>> No.1934291

>>1932838
>trading mostly
Ah man, I remember having to deal with people through ICQ to trade. Hated that program from start to finish.

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>>1932464

>> No.1935926

My father used to work for a defense contractor. They had a huge computer club/bootlegging ring.
The company had access to chip reading and burning equipment, so copying console cartridge games was easy. All you needed was a copied and a cartridge bridge board to hook it up to a console.
They had a low-level programming whizkid who break just about any stupid copy protection a game had. Using code wheels was for suckers.

With that kind of access at work, my father only used BBS for demos.

When I grew older, I found newsgroups to be the most reliable for bootlegging. Fileshare networks like Gnutella and eMule were more likely to crash the router with connection overloading than give me a good copy of something.

>> No.1936098

>>1932636

Ah, I remember these...

>Click button one and wait for the popup to load, then repeat with button 2 then 3, then click the download button

Needlessly to say in 90 percent of all cases it didn't work.
Goooood times...

>> No.1936102

Too late for Usenet. Used Plasticman, mainly.

Friend got the Europa Warez discs as well. One of them even had a really rare Psychic Force 2014 PC port. It ran at 20FPS but I didn't give a fuck.

>> No.1936121

>>1936102
>old skool PC gaming
Everything require hardware you couldn't afford.

I still remember trying to play Decent 3 at 6FPS on a fucking nVidia TnT1.

>> No.1936124

>>1932137
You can, but some secrets need to stay buried, lest someone with a bug up their ass would ruin everyone's fun out of spite.

>> No.1936140

In the late 90 I used IRC and direct downloads. I only pirated porn, mp3s and NES roms since I had a 33.6k modem dial up connection.

>> No.1936160

>>1931973
Cractros were often better than actual games they came with

>> No.1936179

>>1936160
http://keygenjukebox.com/

>> No.1936191

>>1936121
>old skool PC gaming
For me that really means when machines only had ISA bus.

>> No.1936202

>>1936121
What? Descent 3 was smooth like silk with a TNT 1. Hell, I even played Quake 3 on my old TNT 1 without much trouble.

>> No.1936209

>>1936202
Are you sure you didn't play on the much more powerful TnT2?

>> No.1936227

>>1936209
Pretty sure. It was my first PC and I still remember the exact specs.

Incidentally, Here's a video of a dude playing Q3 with a Riva 128, a card much weaker than the TNT 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrWRMMdwW4

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