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DOOM THREAD - Last thread >>1914340
(other retro FPS also welcome, chances are we played 'em too)

====WEBSITE/COMMUNITY====

http://doomwiki.org/
The OFFICIAL Doom Wiki, actively maintained and supported by the Doom community. Want to learn more about Doom? Check this site first!

FAQ/Pastebin, updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
http://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames torrent (as of 11/25/2013; 12GB): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

>> No.1918309

>>1918307
===NEWS===

EPISODES! EPISODES EVERYWHERE! Back to Saturn X EP 2 and Adventures of Square EP 1 are out now!
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69960-back-to-saturn-x-episode-2-public-beta-1/
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46604

Plutonia 1024 got a release too, but to less hype. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1286407 THAT'S A LOAD OF WADS!

Doomhack! It's...well, it's something. It's also legal to play now! http://pastebin.com/X5dddz3F

TimeOfDeath has just released a compilation of his maps, named ESP. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69846-esp-33-hard-maps/

Randy has been working on porting Blood stuff to ZDoom! Could this mean Bloodites can finally get a day to shine?

Hideous Destructor got a neat little update taking care of the DERP. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12973

The Adventures of Square, a graphically-simplistic TC came out. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46604

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
The Space Pirate: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing (tutorial: http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y) [Embed]

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

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>>1918307

>> No.1918325 [DELETED] 

goddamn /vr/oom babbies

go back to where you came from:
>>>/v/

or go to where you really belong:
>>>/vg/

>> No.1918327

>>1918307
>>1914350

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>>1918325
Stop trying to sound super edgy and cool.
We needed another thread, and we got it.

>> No.1918345

>>1918340
>>1918309
>>1918307

Did we need a new thread already? The old one was barely over the bump limit.

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Rage.wad when

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Anyone up for Samsara?
Password: doomedguys

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>>1918345

>> No.1918376

>>1918318
How else is the character going to acquire new weapons?

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>>1918360
Fuck you doc, I'm done.

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GMOTA's ENDSCREEN LEAKED!

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Semi-relevant

inb4 >facebook

>> No.1918392 [DELETED] 

>>1918340
>responding

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem

>> No.1918401

>>1918362
Usually when we wait until page 6 to bump, which prevents >>1918325 like posts

>> No.1918402

>>1918356

Might help if you told us the server name.

>>1918362

What?
Where in the world is that?
This would be super-useful to have.

>> No.1918404

>>1918402

Get 4chanx bro

>> No.1918414

>>1918404
Ignore this guy.
Click [settings] in the bottom right of the page.

>> No.1918415

>>1918402
/vr/ Samsara invasion

>> No.1918416 [DELETED] 

>>1918392
>responding

>> No.1918456
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So i tried plutonia with HD in Fugly mode, i have never been kicked in the ass a lot of times

>> No.1918460

>pirate Doom

My god this wad is so amazing and I haven't even beaten it yet.

>> No.1918467

>>1918414

Oh man, this is super cool.
Thanks, mate.

>> No.1918482

>>1918467
My favorite thing is messing with the custom CSS

>> No.1918568

>>1918460

It's just refreshing to see a doom mod with such a lighthearted sense of humor

>> No.1918574 [DELETED] 

Omg so llol retro general XD LOL

>> No.1918576

>>1918376

Are you saying skeletons couldn't wield guns?

What are you, a fuckin racist?

>> No.1918612

Demonsteele pretty fun. Blasted through an episode before I even knew it.

>> No.1918616

>>1918612
but where can I get it

>> No.1918624

>>1918616
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

>> No.1918632

>>1918624
Oh cool i have to fucking compile it myself
Fuck that
why can't terminus just have a normal release instead of trying to hide things behind a fucking puzzlebox

>> No.1918636

>>1918632
I haven't had to compile it once.

What I did was take a pk3 file, toss the contents of the PK3 folder into it and it runs perfectly.

>> No.1918641

>>1918632

Well, partially because I haven't actually released it yet.
I haven't even done anything aside from post screenshots/webms/occasional test builds asking people what they think about a feature.
An anon found the github and then spread it from there, so now it's sort of a makeshift early access because you guys are cool and actually give criticism/tell me about broken shit.

>> No.1918647

>>1918632
>what is _zip.bat

>> No.1918652

>>1918641
I am glad someone else linked it before because Demonsteele is arguably my favorite gameplay mod at this point

>> No.1918653

>>1918632
Click download ZIP.
Extract the *-master folder somewhere.
Enter the directory.
Double click on _zip.bat.
Follow the instructions.
Run the newly created .pk3 or .pk7 file in (G)Zdoom by either dragging and dropping, using ZDL, or by double clicking on the file, if you have file associations set up.


Seriously. It's not that fucking difficult.

>> No.1918664

>>1918632
they made you a fucking batch file to do it for you

and even if you don't do that it's as simple as putting all the contents of the pk3 folder in a zip

You don't even have to rename it to .pk3, zandro runs .zip files.
It's not that fucking hard. Fuck you.

>> No.1918676

>>1918664
I just tested something, but apparently you don't even need to zip it, at least with a pretty recent (G)Zdoom SVN. Just drag and drop the "PK3" Folder and it runs.

>> No.1918682

>>1918676
Oh yeah, I forgot they added folder loading so you could test releases without zipping it every time.

Supposedly it will run a bit worse though.

>> No.1918687

>>1918682
Yeah, I don't exactly know the consequences of running it using that method, but at least it runs.

>> No.1918730

>>1918467
Not the other guy but srsly, get 4chanx or appchan, is a lot better than the inline extension.

>> No.1918737

Why are these threads not on /v/ or /vg/ again

>> No.1918741

>>1918737
Because it's a thread about a retro game? IF this thread shouldn't be here, what should be on /vr/?

>> No.1918747

Is Doomscript here yet?

>> No.1918749

>>1918747

it'll come along Doom: Evil Unleashed

>> No.1918752

>>1918737
Because it's retro.
It's not that difficult.
And wouldn't you rather see one of these every so often than having us make many a day because they keep getting bumped off due to inactivity?

>> No.1918760 [DELETED] 

>>1918741
>>1918752
>responding

>> No.1918765 [DELETED] 

>>1918760
>responding to my response.

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>>1918737
>Why are these threads not on /v/ or /vg/ again

Doom is retro.

They would also survive on neither /v/ nor /vg/.

>> No.1918770 [DELETED] 

>>1918737

Because you're gay.

>> No.1918784 [DELETED] 

>>1918767
They'd indeed survive in /vg/ with the constant circle jerk shitting up the front page of /vr/. Fuck off.

>> No.1918789

>>1918737
A better question would be Why do you want us out of /vr/?

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ade a burger :DDDD

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>>1918795
And that's how Chubbs was born

>> No.1918824

>>1918814
a TA mod
that's what we've been missing
or atleast weapons
would love to feed some barons some spinfusor discs

>> No.1918826

>>1918795
doom_by_scott_adams_and_seth_macfarlane.png

>> No.1918838

>>1918641
Hey Term, are you supposed to be able to get 2 life tokens on the hardest difficulty? Because right now the only thing distinguishing it from the nightmare difficulty is that you have to be careful until you find a health pack.

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>>1918737
So glad you could post this! Now I have a reason to make this post:

http://vrdoom.x10.mx/faq.php#q11

The /vr/doom site is finished! Unfortunately it's on a url that's banned by 4chan so you should only add it with the double spoiler tags.

If you want a URL that can be easily news posted ( >>1918309 ) use http://万板.縮.jp/

If you need the FTP password, I'll be on the IRC.

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>>1918849
>.mx

OH BOY, HERE COME THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

Anyway, glad to see the website cooler than ever

>> No.1918862

>>1918849
Awesome!
I like the link.

>> No.1918863

>>1918737
how much of a loser do you have to be to come onto a doom thread and complain that it exists?

how much of a loser am I for replying to you?

>> No.1918868

>>1918862
Thanks.
I found it in my search to find a link shortener that 4chan wouldn't sperg out and cry "SPAM" at.

>> No.1918875

>>1918838

Nope. Oops.
Brb fixing that.

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I remember someone mentioning something about "what if Guardian Legend's Arsenal was in doom?"

I think i have the idea of how to make things work but it would need custom slots for weapons[i.e. Skulltag secondary slot for Minigun,G. Launcher, Railgun and BFG10K]

>> No.1918882

Daily reminder that the game is spelled DOOM in all official documents and releases.

Spelling it as DooM is for dickweeds.

>> No.1918884

>>1918860

This image is so true and it makes me happy

>> No.1918890

>>1918882

i remember you from way back in the doom threads in 2013 in /v/

stay there

>> No.1918892

>>1918882
and what if i spell it as dOOm
:^)

>> No.1918895

>>1918882

Can I spell it like DoUm?

>> No.1918896

>>1918895
Doum Numem

>> No.1918901

>>1918890
I have no idea who you are or who you are but only started browsing 4chan more regularly when /vr/ happened.
Sorry, I guess? It just tickles my autism.

>> No.1918905

>>1918896

It's time to chew ass.

>> No.1918906

>>1918901
>who you are or who you are
who you are or who you are referring to, I mean.

>> No.1918919

>>1918905
huhuhuh. what an mess
*snap crackel*

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>>1918881
[Apologizes for picture for ants, emulator sux]

The weapons you use in Guardian Legend would be alt fire weapons, kinda like how demonsteele's primary fire is always the sword but considering the facts that there are more than 7 weapons, special slots + randomized spawn pickups would be needed [the EE bombs could be inventory items].

The big deal here would be how to make the weapons work in a Three-dimensional space.

>> No.1918928

>>1918924

GMOTA does something similar to that with sub weapons. Subweapon pickups give you a dummy item that changes your altfire

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>>1918882
:^)

>> No.1918940

>>1918924
Oh and forgot some other fact, the laser gun is only used in Shmup sections in the game, which kinda sucks because its not easy for doom to make Shmup sections[and to say the least, the idea is just to port the weapons, not to make a TC], the weapon could be a BFG replacement, because it deals big damage

Oh and other thing, the upgrades[health, power and weapons], Megasphere=Weapon upgrade[Up to 3 upgrades per weapon]+fullhealth+1 power upgrade[up to 4 upgrades]+1 armor upgrade[up to 8 upgrades]., and of course it gives you a full health/armor recharge. Soulsphere=Health upgrade, max. number of upgrades are 10, after that its only full healths. Backpack=Chip upgrade

And that's all, its only ideas

>> No.1918945

>>1918928
Yes i know about that, but the idea is to have different slots for the subweapons, as i said like how Demonsteele does

>> No.1918948

>>1918929
>Mac

>> No.1918972

>>1918460
>>1918568
Update:

Just beat it and it was great.

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>> No.1918994 [DELETED] 

>>1918991
You botched hard.

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>>1918991
What's up?

>> No.1919028

>>1918972

But enough about your penis.

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>>1919028

>> No.1919043

hello, i'm new to doom.
in zdoom, how do i set the mouse so i can use it to aim instead of move?

>> No.1919047

>>1919043
There should be a menu called Compatibility Options to fiddle with gameplay related settings, which includes mouse aim, just make sure you also set the mouse to work.

>> No.1919049

>>1919043
Options > Mouse Options > Always Freelook (or something like that)

Though, if you're doing that, I would turn off autoaim (Options > Player Setup > Autoaim Never) because your bullets might completely miss where you're aiming.

If you still want autoaim with no freelook, but don't want to be moving forward or backward, just set the "forward/backward speed" slider to 0.

If you want, I can post my bind that lets you switch between no-freelook-autoaim and freelook-no-autoaim by pressing a button.

>> No.1919052

>>1919047
>>1919049
oh, i'm blind.
thanks!

>> No.1919093

>>1919043
>new to doom
make your first playthrough as vanilla as possible, and if you still like doom, then add stuff

>> No.1919121

http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Barrel_suicide

Why does DOOM have the most interesting bugs?

>> No.1919134

>>1919121
Because it's fucking old, Anon.

>> No.1919147

>>1919121
I've heard that old Oblivion sex mods have some of the craziest bugs, so crazy that you'd think that they were intentional.

>> No.1919151

>>1919052
Don't forget, 130 FOV is best FOV.

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>Playing Ultimate Simplicity
>Beat the boss on map 10
>TIME BOMB SET ESCAPE IMMEDIATELY

i wasn't expecting this

>> No.1919240

>>1919234
Thanks for the spoiler, jerkoff.

>> No.1919243

>>1919240

Doomguy beats the demons.

>> No.1919250

>>1919243
Well no, like that's a given.
It's a power fantasy video game, of course that's the end result.
I would not have expected a Doom map to have a Super Metroid style escape from the exploding base run. This is an actual fucking spoiler. Don't take it lightly.

>> No.1919259

>>1919240
>caring about spoilers in doom

>> No.1919308

>>1919250
>using spoilers for anything but messages like this :^)

>> No.1919317

So a question about Demonsteele
What will Iron Maiden mode look like exactly?

Will it be some sort of flashy high tech looking armor mode?
Or will it be some sort of iron knight looking thing?

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/vr/ Samsara Invasion
Password: doomedguys

GET IN HERE.

>> No.1919461

I'm so torn on this it's driving me crazy, and it's really one of the biggest issues I personally have with my own mod.

http://strawpoll.me/2512371

Now I know how the GnG devs felt

>> No.1919463

>>1919461

Replying to my own post here but I could also buff damage and give back arcane generation, but take away the autofire capabilities, forcing you guys to tap each time you wanna throw a dagger

>> No.1919481

>>1919461
If you make enemies never flinch then I'm not seeing a reason to ever use them.

You should make it so that you have energy returned on hitting something but make it small.
Make the cost of use more than the returns.
Make it so you can't machine gun fire it freely on everyone.
Give a reduced chance to flinch if you feel you need to as well.

GnG devs didn't care that the dagger was overpowered

>> No.1919482

>>1919463
This would also work.
GnG's daggers were not autofire.

>> No.1919484

>>1919481

I'm still on the fence about it burning up arcane energy, because at that point, why the fuck would you use standard daggers when you can just item crash it?

Maybe I should just buff the damage a little, give it very minor arcane energy generation, and remove the autofire. Players will get fuckin carpal tunnel using the damn things though

>> No.1919494

>>1919484
My bad I thought you meant the dark blue bar.

The changes you suggest there would work.
The entire reason it invalidates things is because it fires faster the closer you are.

Get rid of autofire and it balances itself out without even changing anything.

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I made this for you, /vr/:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/j79nz4gajixnek3/DisShitRightHereMan.wad
Requires this:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k466klglz7zsgho/cc4-edt.wad
(a slightly edited CC4-texture pack, a whopping 3 or 4 new textures. Sorry. A normal cc4-tex.wad would mostly work, but you'll get giant red missing texture in some places)

Replaces MAP30, and has a modified plasma rifle. Tested in prboom+, so you should probably use that to play it.

It could probably be polished up some more, but I gotta call it quits at some point, so this is that point.

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Hail fellow Doomers! GMOTA update soon!

>> No.1919605

>>1919497
Bretty fancy, not a big fan of those CC4 textures though

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>>1919601

AH FUCK IT I'M POSTING IT ANYWAYS

NOW.

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gmota_v0.9.4.pk3

+replaced human monsters with projectile-based medieval foes
=retooled the scattershot to make it feel better
+Buffed the dagger again, removed its autofire capability for balance
+Added the option to disable the music randomizer

>> No.1919653 [DELETED] 

>>1919635
gmota guy, you are my nigga

-rockmanyoshi

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>>1919497
I have no idea what happened, but after exiting zdoom with this wad on after getting tired of prboom's mouse feel, my computer keeled over and had a seizure. I heard a few error dings, Explorer.exe died, and then lost all control of my computer. Ctrl+alt+del, ctrl+shift+esc, alt+tab, even trying to reboot got me nothing. No disk activity. Trying a reboot got me a plain desktop without Explorer and another ding. Clicking the My Computer icon just got me a loading cursor with no disk activity, and nothing happened. Had to hard-restart.

I even checked the wads beforehand with Slade3 and it looked pretty ordinary. Be careful with this one? I don't know. Malwarebytes came up with nothing besides some PuPs. Never had anything like that happen before.

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>>1919635
Aww yeah!

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no sword
pls come back
don't go

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Hey what do you guys think of the PAINKILLER brutal doom pack?
I find it remarkably fun

>> No.1919761

link?

i normally don't play BD but I'm so burnt out on other mods so I guess I'll give it a try

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>can't press button
>no more pistol ammo to shoot it (used it on imps because I don't waste plasma on them)
>no pistol ammo in the map

Great job, mapper.

>> No.1919849

>>1919761
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ofhoce9w5gsgoa/Painkiller.zip?dl=0

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>>1919772
>puts himself in this very situation
>FUCKING MAP AUTHOR

>> No.1919904

>>1919849
Pretty good! Thanks.

>> No.1919909

>>1919904
it works with not too many problems saturn x 2 if you're interested

>> No.1919923

>>1919901
There is like 30 imps to fight with only 2 weapons at your disposal : pistol and plasma gun. Considering you can hear an Archevil in the map, that you fight several of them, as well as several Revenants and a Baron, any sensible person wouldn't waste his plasma on Imps of all things.
There is also nothing pointing out that you're going to have to use your pistol on a switch, and not a single pistol ammo in the map. Also, there is absolutely no reason for the switch to be 'shoot only', it could have very well been one you activate with use.

He should have made that switch push-able or added a bit of pistol ammo nearby or at least somewhere in the map. You can't put the blame of such a bad decision on the player.

>> No.1919938

>>1919923
Also you can't even punch it.

How hilariously evil.

At this point I'd just cheat myself a single bullet.

>> No.1919957

>>1919938
Can you jump?

>> No.1919963

>>1919670
Weird; which vers of Windows? I've been getting random problems when I run GZdoom on Win8; I'll get a hard crash and an overheat warning on reboot.

>> No.1919970

>>1919938
give clip 1

>> No.1920009

>>1919963
Sounds nasty. Try capping FPS to see if overheating is the real problem

(cl_capfps 1 in the console)

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>>1919772
>>1919923
>has more than 200 cells in plasma gun
>has berserk
>shoots a crowd of imps with pistol with 50 bullets instead
Definitely map isn't foolproof enough. By the way, where is that map from? Plutinya 1024?

>> No.1920028

>>1920010
By the time you get the berserk, you've already fought 80% of the Imps in the map. I was already out of pistol ammo. And what tells you I had 200 plasma gun ammo when I used the pistol? Most imps are at the START of the map, where it's logical to use the pistol.

There is no reason for the switch to be shoot only, the mapper purposely made it so that you can't even punch it as a big "lol fuck you", and you're still defending it.
Now I understand why the majority of Doom usermaps aren't very good.

>> No.1920034

>>1920028

Is this switch mendatory to finish the level ? Looks like a secret switch to me.

>> No.1920035

>>1919670
It's not my wad, whatever it was. So... I have no idea what happened m8.

>> No.1920041

>>1918767
hm interesting, what happens at 20:00 on /v/ ? is that when Game of Thrones is on maybe

>> No.1920045

Fake exit rooms: stupid or annoying?

>> No.1920049

>>1919752

s-source?

>> No.1920057

>>1919497
oh hey it's this thing from last thread or was it the one before that

>> No.1920062

>>1920057
Sure is.

>> No.1920064

>>1919772
please don't forget to post the name of the wad you are playing

>> No.1920068

>>1920062
at least i knew immediately where to look for a chainsaw

it's pretty hard, i died to a pain elemental with only a shotgun and a handful of shells to fight it with

>> No.1920069 [DELETED] 

Doom babbies.

>> No.1920075

>>1920068
There's more ammo scattered about in nooks and crannies. If you feel like you're wasting ammo shooting at a monster then just run off and come back to it when you have a better gun/more ammo (revenant towers).

I always preferred maps where ammo was scarce, so it may not be to everyones liking

>> No.1920083

>>1920068
>>1920075

I was just thinking about that question posted last thread about changing one weapon in the game

It would have to be melee. I find myself out of ammo in a lot of harder wads, and the chainsaw doesn't come around right away (usually). I think something slower than a fist but with more power than a pistol.

But that's just how I feel.

>> No.1920092

>>1920028
Considering they give you out a shotgun with 24 shells to kill 14 imps on the ledge using pistol for that is not quite logical. Then things go even better: author gives you out plasma gun and enough cells to take them all for free because monsters are turned backwards and even after that author gives you cells before unleashing monsters at you. The problem here isn't the author being a dick or something like that because for whatever reason no one (even testers) didn't expect player to do such shit like seriously using pistol in combat versus crowds of imps and versus big enemies while there're better weapons in hands with sufficient ammo. In general my point still stands: this map is simply not foolproof enough.

>> No.1920097

>>1920083
How about the sledgehammer from Accessories to Murder? That could work.

>> No.1920119

>>1920083
I like the current set up of dooms melee, good for some monsters, not so much for others. Good ammo saver if you know what your doing.

The one weapon I did change in >>1919497 was the plasma rifle. I always felt like I was wasting ammo with it in vanilla, and found it less useful for short bursts due to its crazy recoil.

>> No.1920131

>>1920075
what's more annoying is the chronic lack of health.

by taking "careful and cautious" to tedious excession, i managed to last seven and a half minutes, with 51 kills and 88 live monsters by prboom's counter (in which lost souls are not included).

in that time i had the pleasure of 4 stimpacks and 4 armour bonuses. i saw a medikit but it was at the other end of a long corridor full of nukage so i couldn't risk it, i had something like 8% health at the time.

i'm sorry to tell you your map too frustrating to be fun for me. i'm not sure i have the patience to try it again.

>> No.1920135

>>1920131
Nah man

Ammo>Health

With enough ammo you don't need health.

>> No.1920137

>>1920135
>implying
He's probably notgudenuff at dodging, Anon.

>> No.1920140

>>1920131
Well I have to fix a mis-assigned texture anyway. Maybe I'll throw some more stimpacks in for you.

>> No.1920158

>>1920092
>Considering they give you out a shotgun with 24 shells to kill 14 imps on the ledge using pistol for that is not quite logical.

That's only counting the first room. You're forgetting the imps in the second room, and there are even more of them. There isn't enough shotgun ammo for the total of the 2 rooms of imps, and since you're already fighting a baron and an archevil in this same 2nd room, while you can hear another archevil in the back, it's logical to use the the pistol to get of the few remaining imps and to save plasma for the rest.

There is not even a single reason why the switch should be shoot-only. With so little hitscan ammo in the map, it's not excuse-able and you're putting the player at risk of getting stuck over this stupid design choice. A good mapper and a good tester is supposed to think about every possibility you give to the player, because if it's possible, it will be done. The player can only 'put himself' into the situations you allow.

It's like I said, no wonder most Doom maps aren't very good, you can't even think straight over a mere switch in a small 1024 map, so let's not even talk about full maps. And you're even defending the bad design choice instead, because it seems too hard for you to admit a small mistake. Good mappers are able to look back at their stuff and tell what could have been done better, and that's part of how they get better.

And about the 'testers' thing, I had betatested this map, I would have asked the following :
>why is the switch in a small hole in the wall and why does it look so weird?
>why is it shoot-only when there is no reason to?
>why can't I even punch it?

>> No.1920162

>>1920137
>He's probably notgudenuff at dodging, Anon.
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=yh88fa
here's the demo, it's my third attempt at the map. judge for yourself.

>>1920140
>Maybe I'll throw some more stimpacks in for you.
thanks, but if you're going to be condescending i'd rather you didn't.

>> No.1920172

>>1919923
>>1920028
>>1920092
>>1920158
for the third time, which wad/map are you talking about?

>> No.1920179

>>1920140
>Well I have to fix a mis-assigned texture anyway.
you should also flip linedefs 3220 and 3250, they have no front sidedef.

and also, are there really 26 secrets or is there some erroneous tagging going on..?

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/tfuktzyqg476b4d/ggam.wad?dl=0

Updated version of that map I posted some threads earlier, tell me what you think. Needs a modern sourceport to run properly, preferably GZDoom. Shouldn't be overly challenging so I recommend playing on UV.

>> No.1920190 [DELETED] 

test

>> No.1920193

>>1920190

don't worry, you're not banned

>> No.1920217

>>1920172
Plutonia1024, map#25

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>>1920162
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=qv55kf

i tried again and managed an exit. sorry for playing so slowly/cautiously.

i missed 3 monsters, one item, and over 20(!) secret areas. final stats: 138/139 3 27/28 3/26 29:05+27

recorded with (my custom build of) prboom in boom compatibility (-complevel 9).

the plasma gun is interesting and surprisingly powerful...

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>>1920158
>you're even defending the bad design choice, because it seems too hard for you to admit a small mistake.
First, stop thinking you know everything about me and making up silly conclusions. I'm criticizing the way you used resources in that map. I'm not defending this switch being shootable only and out of punch reach.
>That's only counting the first room. You're forgetting the imps in the second room, and there are even more of them. There isn't enough shotgun ammo for the total of the 2 rooms of imps, and since you're already fighting a baron and an archevil in this same 2nd room, while you can hear another archevil in the back, it's logical to use the the pistol to get of the few remaining imps and to save plasma for the rest.
Second, playstyles differ from player to player. I can't even tell how your decision to shoot imps with pistol while there's a plasma gun and plenty of ammo for it on a small sized map looks silly for me. I'm not even counting ~10 shells left from previous small encounter.
>There is not even a single reason why the switch should be shoot-only.
Well, ask the mapper why the hell he has put that G1 switch instead of S1 or even why he didn't put a pistol clip or even a zombieman near the shootable switch because who knows what he had on mind while doing this thing which stopped someone's playthrough because said someone didn't play as expected.

>> No.1920414 [DELETED] 

>>1920158
Well, in my own, possibly controversial opinion; _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________git__________________________________________________________________________

_____________________________________________________gud___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>> No.1920454

>>1920398
>I can't even tell how your decision to shoot imps with pistol while there's a plasma gun and plenty of ammo for it on a small sized map looks silly for me.

And I think it's silly to waste precious plasma ammo on a few imps groups together in a single spot when you don't know what's coming next and especially when you can hear an Archevil in the back.

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gosh darn it, vr.

Where do I get my hands on a v1.2 or older copy of Doom.wad?
And how can I run the doom exe file on windows 7

>> No.1920490

>>1920459
>Where do I get my hands on a v1.2 or older copy of Doom.wad?
Could check /idgames, else I may have a collection of older Doom IWADs if i can remember where they are.

>And how can I run the doom exe file on windows 7
You'll need to get DOSBox for that, though why not run Chocolate Doom?

>> No.1920523

>>1920459
>>1920490
i know the v1.2 shareware iwad is on /idgames:

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=9

but obviously the full registered version is not.

>> No.1920537

>>1920490
/idgames doesn't have anything that isn't free

And choco doom doesn't work
Or maybe it does I'll get it

>> No.1920538

>>1920454
At this point I'm wondering how good are you. Unfortunately all I see now is that >your playstyle< with quite newb-ish approach to ammo and guns simply didn't fit the map/wasn't expected.

>> No.1920542

>>1920523
that said i believe there exist patch utiities that will downgrade a v1.9 ultimate doom iwad into earlier versions. i am not sure where to look for them though, and you may need to have DOS to run them.

>> No.1920550

>>1920454
haha i have this problem too, i'm too conservative, so many maps i end up saving the invulnerability in case i need it later and it ends up never used, and i finish the map with megaspheres and hundreds of unused plasma cells.

when this happens i replay the map with gained hindsight, unless it's so terrible that i can't bring myself to do so.

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>>1920542
They'd run in DOSBox as well

>>1920523
If you can't find any patches to downgrade it to the version you want, I did manage to find my CD of Doom stuff. You just want the v1.2 WAD?

>> No.1920561

>>1920542
http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/info/patches.php

>"Downgrades" Doom v1.9 to Doom v1.1. Documentation here. Courtesy of Lee Killough and Rich Brennan.

i suppose you can then upgrade to doom v1.2...

>> No.1920568

>>1920045
Amazing when unexpected, annoying when expected.

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Been playing Hexen and Heretic a lot using Doomsday. Doom games look great with it. Check it out if you haven't yet.

>> No.1920571

>>1920561
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=8611

/idgames link, the doomworld patches page links to atomicgamer which is a horrible service iirc

>> No.1920575

>>1920559
I'm the guy.
If it's not too much trouble, I'd like the older versions too.

>> No.1920584

>>1920569
If you are into visuals, you should try GZDoom with Particle Fire Enhancer, Beautiful Doom, or Brutal Doom. The lightning and particles on these mods looks much better than anything Doomsday can do. Also, check out the OpenGl hack that allows bloom lightning on GZdoom.

>> No.1920585

>>1920569
>Blury images
>Glow that gets inside the floor
>Black box on the fps counter
Yeah no.

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>>1920569
>doomsday
worst opengl engine out there

>> No.1920594

>>1920586
that's not really saying much, there are only three (gzdoom, glboom+, doomsday)

>> No.1920603 [DELETED] 

>>1920585
>>1920586
Don't even think about replying.

>> No.1920616

>>1920569
what the fuck
are you retarded? Doomsday fucking sucks, jDoom is horrible

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>>1920586
It's fully configurable, this was my Hexen render setup. I just like how you can switch games on the fly and there's no convoluted setup for controls/mouse etc. I don't see how it's the worst.
>>1920585
it's not that blurry, if anything it's the 16:9 resolution making the edges look bad. You can alter the particle point lighting and glow a bunch of ways, I'm pretty sure you could prevent the clipping. You can turn off the fps box, it was on by default.
>>1920584
My computer isn't that good, at least in doomsday bloom kills my frames. I just like how you can simply configure doomsday on the fly, switch games with ease and don't have to hassle with control setup. I just added shadows, sky lighting, texture filtering, real-time lights and some halos.

>> No.1920626

>>1920616
>Doomsday fucking sucks
why

>> No.1920627

>>1920617
>HUD aspect ratio is too thin
>weapon sprite aspect ratio is too wide
how even

>> No.1920645

>>1920616
I haven't tried Doomsday, but I've seen those old model packs, and they did NOT look even remotely good.

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>>1920186

loved it, just a few things:
pic related wall looks really bad, you should add the blue markings around the blue doors.. oh and, maybe remove some of the hellknight area ammo
and add it to the pain elementals, so the players doesnt feel so stacked up IMO, make the rocket launcher secret door a bit more sublime,
oh and the light above the gun itself is misaligned :3

>> No.1920654

>>1920575
http://a.pomf.se/mqfjpf.zip
Alright here's Doom 1 V1.1 + V1.2 and Doom 2 V1.666, would have had V1.7 but apparently the floppy images I have are corrupt or something (wouldn't even install in DOSBox). If you also wanted the Alpha/Beta versions, those I know are on /idgames in the historic folder
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?dir=historic/

>> No.1920659

>>1920627
>weapon sprite aspect ratio is too wide
I think you're confused
>>1920645
those weren't model packs, there's only smoothing involved

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>>1920649
>using crosshair

>> No.1920663

>>1920654
thanks buddy boy

>> No.1920667

>>1920660
>not using crosshair

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>>1920659
look how fat that mace is compared to the original sprite

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>>1920670
>not wanting more smashing power
I don't know why it's fatter

>> No.1920689

i hope the doomsday guy deleted his own post there, it's pretty obvious nobody was agreeing with him but that shouldnt be grounds for moderator post deletion

>> No.1920696

>>1920689
Hahaha no I didn't. I got another deleted too. He must be straight ass-melted from something, jesus christ.

>> No.1920707

>>1920538
So basically you're just resorting to 'get gud'.

How good I am doesn't even have anything to do with the matter.

>> No.1920724

how the hell is blazkowicz pronounced

>> No.1920731

>>1920724
I always said it like "Blaskovits"

>> No.1920741

>>1920731
It ends with a "Vitch" sound.

It's mentioned in the recent Wolfenstein somewhere.

>> No.1920750

So I just finished Equinox.wad with projectMSX and it was amazing, any other good map packs / megawads that would go well with projectMSX ?

>> No.1920751

>>1920750
All of them

But really, Hellbound if you haven't tried it.

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>>1920707
Well, for the 5th time I'm telling you're a deviant with interesting approach to things. It seems like: a) no one who posted feedback got into such situation; b) no one who posted feedback thought that it was such a design flaw. c) get good :3

>> No.1920826

how does one obtain the shores of hell and inferno for zdoom?

>> No.1920834

>>1920826
By having a full version of Doom.

>> No.1920838

>>1920834
where can i get that?

>> No.1920839 [DELETED] 

>>1920780
>get good
LOL :D ebic may may bro
I listen to dabsteb too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_EjaslTcg

>> No.1920842 [DELETED] 

Do not reply to the post above

>> No.1920851

>>1920838
Pastebin in the OP.

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>>1920594
I thought Risen3D had opengl.

>> No.1920868

>>1920862

Ok, source? That's actually pretty fucking cool. It looks like the original Serious Sam games!

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>>1920868
>source
>image is called Risen3D
>mentions Risen3D in the post
It's fucking Risen3D.
It does have a huge issue, though.
3D monsters.

>> No.1920880

>>1920851
Or be a fool like me and actually buy the thing on Steam

>> No.1920882

>>1920875
Whats wrong with the 3D monsters?
they look alright

>> No.1920889

>>1920875
He was asking for the mod, not the port.

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>>1920882
Some of them are cool.
Others are downright awful.

>> No.1920901

>>1920897
for me the problem doesn't reside with the models, it's just that with the doom frames it animates like absolute balls

can't really explain

>> No.1920907

>>1920901
More like they are designed for 2D, not 3D.
The cacodemon juust looks silly as fuck on 3D.

>> No.1920912

>>1920907

it really does, doesn't it. Like a larl Xmas decoration.

>> No.1920925

>>1920907

A lot of the monsters look silly in 3D.

/r/ing how do I hold gajin gun

>> No.1920934

I give up. I can't get into Accessories to Murder.

>> No.1920941 [DELETED] 

>>1920901
Hi there!
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>> No.1920945

>>1920941
oy nigger

I keep this trip for /int/ and risk games, i'm too lazy to get rid of it

>> No.1920947

>>1920889
Risen3D is the mod and the port.
You just enable it.

>> No.1920950

Hey now, Doomsday WITHOUT the aberration of the 3D models looks and is a pretty decent sourceport, hell, it was Romero's port of choice for singleplayer and co-op play for the 20th anniversary private event he held

>>1920934

Don't worry, you're not the only one. I mean, I respect DoomNukem's effort in bringing a new set of weapon sprites, but just...[opinions]it's just a glorified Realm667 randomizer to me. Not even the name of the mod is that good/catchy[/opinions]

>> No.1920957 [DELETED] 

>>1920941

Acting like a smug cunt is just as bad as unnecessary trip fagging.

That being said. Yeah he needs to ditch the trip if he isn't posting content

>> No.1920961

>>1920950
tbh I like DN's work but i just don't like the gameplay

i use his brewtal dem pack

>>1920957
I might tbh, I usually make risk maps and shit on other boards like /int/ so over there i put on a trip when releasing shit

>> No.1920965

>>1920950
I like the Doomnukem sprites (most of them anyways), don't get me wrong, but the gameplay that wildweasel designed for the mod just doesn't do it for me, it's too slow.

>> No.1920990

>>1920965
I felt that way a bit so what I did was
1) Speed up the pump shotgun reload
2) Got rid of the twirly rockets
3) Made the sawed off actually deal real damage
4) Got rid of the custom pistol and shotgun zombies

>> No.1920997

>>1920990
link

please please please, it would give me a reason to play btsx 1 again ;_;

>> No.1921006

>>1920990
I just booted up Project MSX.

>> No.1921013

>>1921006
That also works much better.
I do have an editted MSX though, very minor changes.

I do like AtM but not with the monsters it brings in.
I actually had a lot more fun with it after replacing the monsters entirely.

>> No.1921040

If you could have a monster mixer that didn't just use the standard Doom monsters as a base (Zombiemen with pistols WOAH!!!! Demons that are RED and go FASTER WOAH!!!!) what would you like to fight?

>> No.1921049

>>1921040
Basically what Demonsteele has right about now but without the black ghost enemies.

This is assuming vanilla weaponry would be involved and those guys would be too much for standard weapons without a BFG.

>> No.1921050

>>1921040
I'd love to see a TC randomizer, like, you enter a new map, randomizer chooses a retro FPS (lets say Duke Nukem), all textures are replaced by DN textures, enemies and decorations by DN actors etc.

>> No.1921063

>>1921040
MSX archviles

>> No.1921085

>>1920997
It's really not that hard to change yourself.

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>Hell Revealed
>Going through map per normal
>SHZDOW
>A wild SMG appeared!
>...
>Can't reach it
>WHOOPSWHOOPSWHOOPSWHOOPS

The gods are fickle.

>> No.1921119

Bug in Demonsteele: Those new cultist guys that replace the Arachnotrons do not give any special meter when killed with a sword.

>> No.1921147

>>1918307
How do I give myself a Beserk pack in GZdoom using the console?

>> No.1921149

>>1921147
give berserk

>> No.1921150

>>1921149
unknown item "beserk"

>> No.1921152

>>1921147
Summon berserk

>> No.1921157

>>1921150
"Berserk". With an R. http://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:Berserk

>> No.1921158

>>1921157
How the fuck did I never notice the R? Anyway thanks that was fucking stupid of me.

>> No.1921170

>>1921050
Reelism is kinda similar to that.

>> No.1921205

I got rid of my trip

Anyways which Doom WADS have great music? The Memento Mori series has some great music.

>> No.1921210

>>1921205
Deus Vult 2 has some sweet tunes imo.

>> No.1921215

>>1921210
regular Midi version or the MP3 version?

>> No.1921228

>>1921215
I think the MP3 music fits better.

>> No.1921243

>>1921090
how can you NOT jump?

>> No.1921246

while on the topic of doom music, what soundfont is GOAT?

I've been using SGM.

>> No.1921258

>>1921243
>Playing a map pack designed for you not to jump

Actually I was using a port that added a MAPINFO to prevent me from jumping.

>> No.1921261

>>1921246
I really dig SilverSpring Gaming; it's been called the "brutal doom of soundfonts" by at least one guy here and has some awesome guitars.

More classically, SC-55 sounds really good and retro and is one of the more authentic experiences you can get.

>> No.1921281
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>>1921246
Patch93's SC-55 here. Sometimes it gets too loud with the reverb though, so I made an edit that removes the forced global reverb, and tagged them as Patch93's since other (worse) SC-55 soundfonts are floating around the net.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/kphqb476jvklbcd/Patch93_SC-55_1.9.sf2.7z
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ed9ll5cyayrrqob/Patch93_SC-55_1.9_NoForcedReverbEdit.sf2.7z

Also,
>silverspring
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19194830/MUS/silverspring_AKA_GUITARS.SF2.ogg
Pic related

>> No.1921302

>>1921281
oh shit thx m8

also silverspring sounds like shieet most of the time, no offense

>> No.1921313 [DELETED] 

>>1921302
Man, my whole point was that Silverspring sounds bloody awful on literally anything besides stock Doom songs

You're welcome though, enjoy

>> No.1921321

Man, my whole point was that Silverspring sounds bloody awful on literally anything besides stock Doom songs

You're welcome though, enjoy. Just a note, that soundfont sounds best through either the BASSMIDI system driver or VirtualMIDISynth, it sounds off in Fluidsynth and downright painful in Timidity.

>> No.1921339

how the hell do I set up BASSMIDI?

There's a pastebin tutorial somewhere that some anon made but I can't find it

>> No.1921369
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>>1921339
1) Download this and install: http://www.kode54.net/bassmididrv/bassmididrv.exe

2) I can't remember if you have to restart or not after installing, but you probably don't. Either way, open Start menu, type "bassmidi", click "Configure BASSMIDI Driver."

3) Click Add, add your soundfont to the loading list as shown, and hit Apply.

4) Go into ZDoom or whatever, and select BASSMIDI Port A or B.

Cheers.

>> No.1921552

>>1920337
Yeah, the secrets are definitely a mistake. I didn't mean to sound condescending by the way. Inflection and the internet. Spose I should concern myself more with word choice.

Anyway. Thanks for playing. About to watch your demo and fix those issues (just got back from work).

>> No.1921772

page 3 while on bump limit, if that ain't "courtesy/politeness" I don't know what the fuck it is, then

So anyway, why is it that any custom tracer that inherits from RevenantTracer ALWAYS seems to be even more aggressive compared to the original?

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>>1918402
>Where in the world is that?
Bottom and top left corner of a thread.

Also I'm trying out this weapon from scratch thing, which isn't much assisted by the fact that I can't draw.
Anything I should add to or remove from this design before I bother animating it? It's meant to be a double-barreled rocket impaler, because >subtlety

>> No.1921914

>>1918849
No dakka :(

>> No.1921916
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>>1919497
>>1920337
>>1921552
Fixed version (With a better name this time imo). There are 8 secrets total.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/prz1o33bmib67de/lovely.wad

And the needed texture thingy, again.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/k466klglz7zsgho/cc4-edt.wad

Anyway. I think I'm done for real this time. Hope you like it, /doom/.

>> No.1921935

>>1918849
Nice. Still missing 200 minutes of /vr/ though, and like another anon said: Dakka. Still. It's nice to have a home away from home.

>> No.1921937

>>1921901
Add a very small barrel in the middle, and when you animate it, make the middle barrel fire out a tiny flag with BANG!!! written on it.

>> No.1921949

>>1921916
>>1920337
Oh yeah. Also meant to comment on the video. Was entertaining to watch. I know you weren't expecting a crawlfest but I kinda like maps like that myself, so that's what I try to make. Thanks for sticking with it.

It's nice to see what worked and what didn't. Luckily most of it functioned as intended though.

>> No.1921953

>>1921937
but how will you see the flag when the barrels start spinning
yes that's right
it will be a double-barrel gatling rocket impaler.
THOSE BELT-FED ROCKETS AREN'T JUST FOR SHOW

>> No.1921965

>>1921901
Shading (ha ... ha...ha...)
But I'd put blowback tubes on the side. Sorta like how a real rocket propelled grenade (or rocket propelled spike in this case)has an open back, but on the sides so the blow back is directed away from the players face.

>> No.1921974

>>1921953
The middle barrel would jut out further than the others.
You should add an alt fire and the flag launches out as a projectile, spending 1 bullet and dealing the same damage as 2 punches.

>> No.1921998

>>1921965
Well, the sides are going to allow new rockets/stakes/whatever to cycle in as the barrels spin.

How about poking big holes into the barrels to allow the blast to create an impressive-looking display of fire with every shot?

>>1921974
why not just launch the flag with the stakerocketsplodethings?

>> No.1922008

So what's the likelihood of a sourceport or wad coming out that has different doomguy sprites for different weapons?

I think it would be a worthwhile addition. Knowing what your friend is shooting makes the game more fun and interesting.

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>>1922008
fack

>> No.1922016

>>1921998
Sounds good to me.

>> No.1922046

Are there any Doom wads that make use of a Sniper Rifle? As in having the weapon and also having levels make use of it?

>> No.1922052

project MSX is still at v0.2a? :<

>> No.1922053

>>1922046
right below post has your answer I guess. PMSX is one, couple this up with Back to Saturn X.

>> No.1922058

Who was working on this Hexen magic mod anyway? Are they still around?

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>>1922058
Forgot pic

>> No.1922105

Huh, so there IS an invulnsphere bug still in GMOTA

http://youtu.be/Ex-UMcgkWfI

>> No.1922172
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Animating this thing is going to make me cry.
Added the ventilation holes on the barrels, and added a little base so that it can rotate feasibly.

>> No.1922185

>>1922172
What's this?

>> No.1922202

>>1922185
see >>1921953

It's for that one mod with guns that kill things really quickly.
The one where the chainsaw is replaced with dual-wielded scrap cannons.
The one that's confusing itself with Painkiller.

>> No.1922203

>>1922172
Do you just draw your sprites in a graphics program or do you model and render them to sprites?

I was thinking of doing the latter, but I want to know what other people think.

>> No.1922210

>>1922202
Oh Dakka.

>> No.1922280

What's the pass for /vr/ gets agitated?

>> No.1922287
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>> No.1922291
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Why is DOOM so damn fun and addictive? I'm only just getting into it now but it's the most fun I've had with games in a long time.

>> No.1922294

>>1922291
>Why is X so Y

Sigh.

>> No.1922295
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>>1919317

Mike's leaning heavily in an M.D. Geist direction, while Mystical went and sketched a fucking horrifying gargoyle-esque critter.
I love both of 'em and I'm a gigantic fucking toku nerd, so when I get to drawing up a sketch, I figure it'll probably end up looking like a cross between a bestial angel and hi-tech power armor.
Something Garo-esque, if you're familiar with that series.

>>1921090

Huh, that's weird. What map number was that? I need to see if the player is supposed to get that thing normally or if it's a "just out of reach" secret.

>>1921119

Fixed, thank you.

>> No.1922296

>>1922291

Doom was a result of a fucking near-perfect balance of aesthetics and gameplay lead by some of the greatest minds in vidya creation history.

>> No.1922306

>>1922296
Honestly, the gameplay is fucking excellent. Only a couple enemies are hampers on the gameplay, and of course it's the agitating aggravations along with the archviles, but they're usually not too rampant. It's the map/level design that makes or breaks everything the gameplay revolves around, and the vanilla maps aren't the greatest.

>> No.1922307

>>1922295
>M. D. Geist armor
Oh shit son.

>Gargoyle-esque critter
How about two characters

>> No.1922316

>>1922307

Multiple characters might be interesting.
Hae-Lin takes pretty heavily off of power/speed metal and urban-fantasy anime, so it'd be interesting to have a character themed after different types of animu/metal.

...that's just theoretical, though. Even it does get done, I'd want to wait until Hae-Lin is done and ready first.

>> No.1922325

>>1922295
>Huh, that's weird. What map number was that? I need to see if the player is supposed to get that thing normally or if it's a "just out of reach" secret.
It's a just-out-of-reach secret. You're supposed to run onto the ledge from an elevator.
It's also not marked as a secret.

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>>1922316
>black metal/supernatural thriller anime
>industrial metal/AKIRAAAAAA cyberpunk anime
>folk metal/medieval fantasy anime
>GLAM METAL/MAGICAL GIRLS

make it happen

>> No.1922334

>>1922327
>hair metal magical girl
I have never wanted to play as Jem before now

>> No.1922338

Doom 1 is 10/10
Doom 2 is 7.5/10

>> No.1922348

>>1922338
>Doom 2 is 7.5/10
Definitely applies to level design.

Doom 2's new enemies are 11/10.

Pain Elementals/Archviles/Revenants/Mancubi add so much to battles and are way more engaging than vanilla Doom's enemy roster.

>> No.1922352

>>1922348
Level design is what killed Doom 2 for me. It felt tedious compared to Doom.

>> No.1922356

>>1922352
Yeah but the enemies were great additions.

Doom 1 with some Doom 2 enemies scattered about would be great.

Thanks PSX Doom!

>> No.1922364

>>1922008
This is already a thing in Zandro.

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have any of you played this?

>> No.1922383

>>1922367

...pretty interesting pistol. Almost looks like Stomper's pistol is a copycat of that one.

Oh, and thanks for the heads-up about that game!

>> No.1922384

>>1922383
It was made by Insomniac so I figure it's good.

>> No.1922385

>>1921552
>>1921916
>>1921949
first of all an apology: i realise now you didn't mean to sound condescending but at the time i was frustrated.

thanks for watching the demo. it's probably not such a crawlfest once you know the map, but everything after ~7 minutes was previously unseen, combined with the cautiousness from trying not to die made it slow.

in fact i forgot to mention at one point i paused the recording because i was stuck and had to check the map in an editor to figure out how to get the red key. you might have noticed i went around the cavern several times, i was afraid to jump in in case it was entirely lava down there (this was one time where mouselook would have helped, so i could see the floor below...)

i will play the finished version later. hopefully now knowing the layout, i will be able to go a bit faster. :)

>> No.1922386

>>1922367
Looks cool, but the map design is poor imo.

>> No.1922392

>>1922367
If I'm not mistaken, I should still have the disc. Fun, but controller makes it kinda clunky. It gets fucking hard towards the end though.

>> No.1922398

>>1922392
>controller makes it clunky
>Im gonna play it on PSP

Wish me luck

PSP Final Doom a shit.

>> No.1922407

>>1922398
>PSP disruptor

Holy fuck, anon. That's balls to the wall.

>> No.1922426

>>1922203
I model/render stuff myself. You always need to paint over afterwords, but it's a great base and gets a lot of the animation part out of the way.

>> No.1922437

>>1921215
>>1921228
MP3 version? Never heard of this one.

>> No.1922475

>>1922291
Similar here except I'm just getting into different wads. I have played through Scythe 1 and 2 and Pirate Doom so far. Currently playing through Back To Saturn X. There's so much amazing content for Doom.

>> No.1922476

>>1922306
Worst enemies are the lost souls and pain elementals. Of course the later also has to spit out the former at you. Arch Viles are good as long as they are used properly. Cyberdemon's are okay as long as the map isn't littered with them for the sake of being crazy.

>> No.1922484
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>they actually work decently together
>still can cut down bullets, still get combo meter

Neat.

>> No.1922485

>>1922476
when doomworld used to have polls on its front page i remember one of them was "what is the most annoying monster" and the choices were "pain elemental" and "something else"

>> No.1922515

>>1922484
You get combo meter from anything hit and from what I can tell you get special meter for deflecting projectiles no matter what.

But you do not get special meter for sword kills unless it's a proper Demonsteele enemy.

>> No.1922518

>>1922476
>Worst enemies are the Lost Souls and Pain Elemental
WRONG

And here's why:
1) Pain Elementals control the pace you have to take
Now obviously you can't fuck about with a Pain Elemental because it spawns sturdy enemies so you need to kill it fast

2) Pain Elementals force you to play unsafe to conserve ammo
Since you can't play conservatively with them around you usually have to rush forward to stop them from spawning too damn much.

3) They control space
This is unique to Pain Elementals and Lost Souls due to how infinitely tall actors work.
They can prevent your movement quite a bit depending on where they are at or how much they call out.

They are fantastic enemies.
People just consider them the worst because they are also a nuisance.
They add a lot to Doom levels you know.

Doom 2's enemies are great all around. Not a single bad newcomer.

>> No.1922521

>>1922367
Head reminds me of Zandronum's logo

>> No.1922528

>>1922518

Lost souls are also equally amazing and fucking annoying just for the fact they seem drawn to players wielding rocket launchers and they love to cockblock you and make you blow yourself up.

>> No.1922553

>>1922352
>>1922356

Don't forget the SSG, that busted badass motherfucker.

BUSTED
U
S
T
E
D
#

>> No.1922560

Mulling over monsters makes me maddeningly muddled

http://pastebin.com/UewxbtpZ

>> No.1922562

>>1922327
>industrial metal
>not a giant stomping death robot
>oversized weapons and retro mecha sounds
Son do you even 90s

>> No.1922569

>>1922560
Looks good so far, I guess?
Not sure why you're posting this.

>> No.1922570

>>1922569
Not sure why you're posting this.

Not him but fuck off he's allowed to post what he wants

>> No.1922571

>>1922569

brainstorming and trying to maybe get an idea on what I should do with spectres

>> No.1922578

>>1922570
Wow, why the hostility?
Because someone posts a pastebin I'm supposed to automatically know what he wants me to do, even if he doesn't say?

>> No.1922582

>>1922578
>Wow, why the hostility?
Because your post came off needlessly dismissive/antagonistic I'm drunk

>> No.1922585

>>1922582

Go to bed.

also other anon, I ain't sweating it, but if you or anyone else have any ideas on what you'd want to see for pinkies and spectres, that'd be cool, I don't think I should give them projectiles or anything but I want to make them interesting too.

>> No.1922602

>>1922560
Want to do something different with spectres?

Elite version of whatever you do with the pinkies.

Like if it was some.. I don't know, let's say an Ettin or some shit.
Then the Spectres should be a stronger more dangerous version of them. Whether it's very short range projectiles or a ramming attack or whatever.

Just think of an upgraded version of whatever you do with pinkies.
However don't make them overpowering. Just like a stronger faster version.

>> No.1922606

>>1922602

That's what I was thinking, a friend of mine mentioned possibly taking inspiration from the werebulls and kleers of Serious Sam.

>> No.1922609

>>1922606
Remember, some levels just toss a herd of these guys at you in really cramped spaces so don't make them too much of a nuisance to fight.

Hell Revealed 2 immediately comes to mind.

>> No.1922612

>>1922609

I'll keep that in mind, which is why I want to make sure I don't deviate TOO far from their classic role of being melee cannon fodder

This is fun

>> No.1922809

>>1922484
does it work with brutal doom?

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>>1922316
If you're taking ideas for other characters, how 'bout something based off this character with thrash or industrial music?
(Didn't make this character but I love the design anyway)

>> No.1922882

>>1922809
Yes, load with v20 and enjoy.

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>>1922327
>Iron Maiden mode replaced with TETSUOOOOOOO

>> No.1922931

>>1922848
thats just a shitty edit of Kula though

>> No.1922935

>>1922882
what the fuck is this shit
there are suddenly revenants all over the place and they can walk through walls

>> No.1922937

>>1922931
True. But for whatever fucking reason I still love it, despite the lame origins...
I guess pyrokinetic goth/demon chicks with red hair just tickle me in all the right places.

>> No.1922971 [DELETED] 

>>1922935
Thats what you get for being a BD babby.

>> No.1922972 [DELETED] 

>>1922935
Don't be a pussy, kill them all. You're supposed to be brutal after all :DDD

>> No.1922976 [DELETED] 

>>1922935
THIS SHIT IS BRUTAL, THAT'S WHAT

>> No.1923004

>>1922348
>>1922338
Doom 2's level design is in every way shape and form superior to Doom 1's. More variety, more interesting concepts, better depth, better height variation, better layouts.

>There are people in this world who think The Pit and The Chasm aren't great maps

>> No.1923006 [DELETED] 

>>1922976
>>1922972
>>1922971

You are the kind of people that gives Donald a reason to live.

>> No.1923014 [DELETED] 

>>1923006
>le boogeymanning maymay
stop please

>> No.1923015
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So what about Space Pirate?

>> No.1923023 [DELETED] 

Hey is SGT Mark 4 around? I'd like to have an ETA on the next brutal doom release.

>> No.1923026 [DELETED] 

Do NOT respond to the post above

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>>1923015
rip in piece

>> No.1923029

>>1923026
Why not? I've seen him posting here before, and I just wanted to ask a question.

>> No.1923032

>>1923029

Do you really, actually, honestly, truly think you're going to get an answer other than "when it's done"?

>> No.1923035

>>1923029
If you analyze Brutal Doom's history, you will see that before every release, he published a trailer, announcing the release date. So, stop asking for it.

>> No.1923036

>>1923032
I dunno, maybe? He's got some vids up on his youtube channel that look like the mod is coming along rather quickly. It would be nice to know if I just have to wait a few weeks rather then a few months though.

>> No.1923038

>>1922612

GMOTA encourages jumping around and shit though so, which gives melee monsters a hell of time trying to get you.

>> No.1923039 [DELETED] 

>actually responding
If you mention BD, you cause a shitstorm.
And we know whos behind this...

This guy gets it:
>>1923006

>> No.1923042

>>1922518
This is all well and good provided that pain elementals and lost souls are used sparingly. When overused, they are ten times as annoying as any other enemy that is also overused.

>> No.1923045

>>1922518

Point 3 is a good point, but I hate infinitely tall actors so I don't really experience that

I guess its cheating somewhat but thats just an aspect of the vanilla game I never liked. luckily mods throw difficulty in other areas though

>> No.1923047

>>1923036

When the next build of burtl comes out, I'm pretty sure it'll be advertised across all the fucking "journalism" sites that don't know a thing about Doom as usual.
You'll know when it's out.

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>>1923038
>I can play doom2 4x bigger without gravity cheating
Buckle up, it's time to shrink

>> No.1923054 [DELETED] 

>>1923039
>>Mentioning an incredibly popular doom mod in a doom thread causes a shitstorm.

Maybe, just maaaayyyyybbbbeeeee, we need to grow up a little bit?

>>1923047
>>I'm pretty sure it'll be advertised across all the fucking "journalism" sites that don't know a thing about Doom as usual.

See this right here? This attitude is silly.

>> No.1923059

>>1923054

What about it is silly?

>> No.1923063 [DELETED] 

>>1923059
It reeks of hipsterism and "Stop liking what I don't like!" thinking.

In other words, posts like that sound like posts the guy who runs this blog would make.

http://blog.danbo.vg/post/50094276897/the-most-misunderstood-game-of-all-time

>> No.1923068

>>1923063
>that blog
haha, now thats a real Mark cocksucker

>> No.1923072

>>1923063

Uh, or it means it gets advertised across "game journalism" sites run by people who admit to not having played Doom before and confuse source port features with mod features.
But if you want to rave about "Stop liking what I don't like" then okay I guess.

>> No.1923079

>>1923059
sir billi

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i still can't get all the monsters out of the teleporters on this map...

>> No.1923094

>>1922437
There's 2 versions of Deus Vult II, dvii-i.wad, the one uploaded to idgames, modified to comply with the site's rules, and dvii-u.wad, the Ultimate version, with MP3 music.

>> No.1923097

Has there ever been a decent stealth/sniping system made for Doom?

>> No.1923103

>>1923068
Actually he seems like just the opposite.

>>1923072
Oh I perfectly understand concerns like that, but you can't deny that all the outrage about Brutal Doom isn't at least partly due to being an obnoxious little hipster. It's okay to not like it but when people are making videos like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDjLJRhssOE&list=PLuYPBKkp8gYYHfKAy0PfDBt3tyyz4thrL

Then something very dumb is going on.

>> No.1923108

>>1923103
>Breaking Benjamin's Blow Me Away as the music
>REASON no. 10
>IT IS INAPROPRIETTE FOR CHILDREN!!!

why the fuck are you taking this seriously

>> No.1923109

>>1922367
Someone should make a weapon mod based on this game.

>> No.1923112

>>1923108
>>Taking it seriously
Not exactly, it's a troll video sure enough, but the asspain that inspired it is very real.

>> No.1923119

>>1923112

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sure thing man whatever

>> No.1923129 [DELETED] 

>>1923119
Firstly take a good look at the rest of that playlist, also consider this video as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSA2CYGmMnM There's an awful lot of angry floating around about this mod and it's author and it is very stupid to get that mad over a popular mod for a 20+ year old PC game.

>> No.1923130
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The protagonist of the last non-Doom game you played is now in the last map wad you played.

How fucked are things?

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>>1923129
where the fuck do you think you are

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>>1923130
>Link in Chillax

Welp.
This is gonna take a while.

>> No.1923137 [DELETED] 

does anyone play brudal doom here? xD

>> No.1923138 [DELETED] 

>>1923129
are you retarded?

>> No.1923140 [DELETED] 

>>1923134
I dunno man, it seems a little odd that people in the doom general can't have a nice friendly discussion about a popular doom mod.

>> No.1923141 [DELETED] 

Donald, please go

>> No.1923148 [DELETED] 

>>1923141
>>Donald
Who the fuck is Donald? Is that some kind of in-joke or something?

>> No.1923150

>>1923130
>ace attorney
>scythe
I am so fucking fucked

>> No.1923151

Can someone post the /doom/ comic?
I cannot find it on warosu

>> No.1923152 [DELETED] 

>>1923148
Some german shitposter.

>> No.1923153

>>1923140
>popular

pls

its basically on life support at this point, the only thing keeping it alive are the occasional people who find out what doom is through it in a depressing cycle that eventually leads them here, where we tell them to fuck off, and people like you who come here and try to be """"""""""""friendly"""""""""""""", knowingly causing a shitstorm because that's what almost always causes a shit storm.

now leave, faggot

>> No.1923157

>>1923152
I see, and the reason that people who like or want to discuss brutal doom in the doom general is what exactly?

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http://vrdoom.x10.mx/faq.php#q12

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>>1923140

It's worthless to respond to you because I know you're just baiting for replies, but no. No, we can't.
As long as people like you legitimately believe that the "hatred" for Brutal Doom is because of "hipster-ism" or "stop liking what I don't like", then no. We will never be able to have a nice, friendly discussion.
And I know you are not going to take this answer and are just going to try and continue the topic, but HEY WHATEVER I got that off my fucking chest.

>> No.1923164 [DELETED] 

>>1923153
>>its basically on life support at this point
It's won cacoawards and has a good deal of favorable word of mouth in it's favor. The only reason it's slowed down in terms of popularity is because a whole lot of people are waiting for the new release or are playing various sub-mods.

>>now leave, faggot
If you don't want to accept discussion of a popular doom mod or any doom mod in the doom general maybe you should consider leaving?

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>>1923141
>>https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=donald
>>https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=dkg
>>https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=remember+report+and+ignore
>>https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search2&ghost=yes&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=pxe8mmZoFU&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_op=all&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=post
>>https://warosu.org/vr/thread/S1843564#p1846971

>> No.1923170

>>1923163
Funny thing is I actually agree that standard Brutal Doom is somewhat overrated. I personally use the sperglord edition myself. But don't fucking kid yourself, a whole bunch of people who both hate change and are stupidly PC hate both brutal doom and it's author for very stupid reasons.

>> No.1923171

>>1923129
>all videos from the same person
Wow you sure did win this argument

>> No.1923172

>>1923169
meant to reply to
>>1923148

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>>1923130
Cadence form NecroDancer in BTSXe.
This is gonna be FUN!

>> No.1923179

>>1923164
It's called Doom General, not fucking Brutal Doom General.

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>>1923130
>Matthew from Golden Sun Dark Dawn
>Unholy Realms and Plutonia
Are we going by RPG logic?
If not, he's probably boned.

>> No.1923182

>>1923130
Dante in Unloved.
I can work with this, I guess?

>> No.1923191

>>1923169
>[...] and his malicious WAD erased my HDD
what? How can a WAD erase your HDD???

>> No.1923197 [DELETED] 

>>1923032

Looking for content to steal takes a long time.

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>>1923130
>Picrelated on Plutonia1024
Well, Lilac can beat it with the power of fast anyway.

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>> No.1923212

>>1923094
Oh neat, found it. Thanks.

>> No.1923214

>>1923207
Okay, I understand that the black guy is supposed to be Chocolate Doom (hue), but who are the other three, and why are they depicted as Mozart, a boy, and Stalin?

>> No.1923216

Why do I enjoy PrBoom, Doom.exe, and Doom95 more than Zdoom and Zandronum?

>> No.1923219

>>1923214
Mozart-Zdoom
Brat-Z&
Brosef Stylin'-ZDaemon

At least I think that's it.

>> No.1923224

>>1923216
>PrBoom
Alright.
>Doom.exe
Cool.
>Doom95
Ya'll just went full retard.

>> No.1923231

>>1923224
What's wrong with Doom95? The fact that it could potentially fuck up MIDI playback like it did with MAP02 of Final Doom TNT?

>> No.1923234

>>1923231
A better question would be "What isn't wrong with Doom95?"

>> No.1923235

>>1923151
http://www.doomworld.com/10years/doomcomic/

>> No.1923238

>>1923169
Sound like a 15 year old with too much free time on his hands.

>> No.1923240

>>1923216
only you know the answer to that question

>> No.1923241

>>1923234
I played Doom95 and didn't really notice any real issues (other than the MIDI thing), what am I missing?

>> No.1923245

>>1923241
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom95#Bugs

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>>1923207
holy shit, this is great

>> No.1923254

Also Doom95 can't into Alt+Tab

>> No.1923263

>>1922935

you wanted BD compatibility, you got BD compatibility. dwi

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>>1922935
Surely you've fought revenants before this, they shouldn't be anything new
just kill them all
>>1922327
You have my attention

>> No.1923273

>>1923214
>>1923219
I wish I still had that one image comparing all the sourceports.

>> No.1923282

>>1923268
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times/blob/master/pk3/DECORATE.dec#L25

not quite the same

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>>1923273

I do

>on an unrelated note, this shit shouldn't be 2mb long holy shit do u fgts even optimize your shit?

>> No.1923296

>>1923282
>>1923268
Wow, Terminus is a fucking faggot

>> No.1923306

>>1923296
HDoom has a similar thing. I advise you to read the source code for this particular bit, it's fucking hilarious.

>> No.1923308

>>1923282
>>1923296
Well then looks like there's nothing else to say but
>playing brutal doom with another gameplay mod in the first place
you were asking for it to happen in the first place

>> No.1923309

Slight update on the HDoom Baroness

(Yeah, I know the horns on each frame are different. Gonna fix that tomorrow)
I already have all the sprites transferred over and recolored from the Hellknight girl (Except the sex sprites, but i'll take care of that after), complete with the HK's hair layer removed. I just have to change the heads, polish up the legs, and fill in the blank spots that were underneath the HK's big-ass hair.

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>>1923309
Also, forgot picture like a fucking moron.

>> No.1923315

>>1923309
>>1923313

go take a sleep.

>> No.1923325 [DELETED] 

>>1923308
I just wanted to have fun you fat son of a bitch

>> No.1923326 [DELETED] 

>>1923325
You can't have fun without Brutal Doom?

>> No.1923329 [DELETED] 

>>1923326
Why does Terminus hate Brutal Doom players so much?
I just wanted to improve the gameplay by including Brutal Doom, but this shit ruins everything, fuck Demonsteele, fuck Samsara, fuck Cyberrunner and every other mod made by him and his cocksucking buttbuddy ijon

>> No.1923332 [DELETED] 

>>1923329
>I just wanted to improve the gameplay by including Brutal Doom

>>1923326
>You can't have fun without Brutal Doom?
apparently not

>> No.1923338 [DELETED] 

>>1923329
>Why does Terminus hate Brutal Doom players so much
>that entire post
gee i dunno

>> No.1923340 [DELETED] 

>>1923329
Or maybe you could just play brutal doom with brutal doom addons. Demone steel, Samsara, and Cyberrunner aren't addons to play brutal doom with, maybe you should just consider playing these mods as stand alones with map packs instead of other gameplay mods that might cause conflicts in coding.
But hey at least Demone Steel has compatibility right now with brutal doom.

>> No.1923341

>>1923309
>>1923313
so the older sister is the more tomboyish one with short hair, and the younger sister is the more girly one with long hair?

>> No.1923342 [DELETED] 

>>1923329
and this is why we hold grudges on brutal doom

>> No.1923345 [DELETED] 

>>1923329
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""improve"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>> No.1923347 [DELETED] 

>>1923342
>and this is why we hold grudges on brutal doom
dear faq guy please add copy of referenced post to faq in appropriate section THANKS

>> No.1923348

>>1923329
Why do you think they could even be made to work together in the first place? What benefit could there possibly be? Demon Steele already adds a whole ton of new gore effects and monster deaths. The monsters are balanced around Hae-Lin's abilities, not Brutal Doomguy's. The two mods are fundamentally incompatible, and that's why you get a bunch of boners up your butt when you try to run them together.

>> No.1923349 [DELETED] 

>>1923340
calling bullshit
Brutal Doom is extremely popular, why can't Terminusfaggot make a patch for his mods so everyone can enjoy Samsara and Demonstelee etc.
this fucking sucks

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>people actually respond

>> No.1923359

>>1923347
wat

i was implying that one of the prime reasons i hate brual deewm is because the fanbase is a collective piece of shit

except flyingdildoman, that nigga's cool

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>>1923329
>>1923340

>> No.1923364

>>1922172
>ventilation holes on the barrels

Pants on head retarded.

Try thinking real hard about why that is a bad idea.

The standard shotgun in BD does this mistake as well and it's driving me nuts.

>> No.1923365 [DELETED] 

>>1923349
>make a patch for his mods so everyone can enjoy Demonstelee with Brutal Doom
He already has though and it works just fine for me

>> No.1923368 [DELETED] 

>>1923365
not this you faggot
I want a real BD compatibility, like playing Demonstelee with BD, why is it so hard to understand what I'm trying to explain
fgucking faggot

>> No.1923376 [DELETED] 

>>1923342
>oh no something I didn't make is super popular
>whatever am I going to do to deal with that?
>I know, I'll just hold a grudge forever
>fuck improving my shit
>I'll hold that grudge

Yeah, that's really mature.

>> No.1923381

>>1923361
Whoops. I meant >>192340 not 1923340

>> No.1923382

>>1923368
Now now, no reason to be rude, but the last thing that Demon Steel needs is aim down sights melee weapons. Besides you can live without Brutal Doom for once right?
We could have a civilized discussion over this though but it just appears to not be going that way

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>>1923376

I don't hate the mod, i hate those stupid little babby fuckwits like you crying about how samsara or some other mod doesnt have a bd patch

granted i probably am feeding a troll but fuck it

>> No.1923398

>>1923376
>>1923387

besides what would the patch be for anyway? BD weapons? BD gore? fatalities? the finger?

I mean brutal doom has a lot of new features, this isn't just doom rpg + arsenal where a lot of the features go hand in hand seamlessly

>> No.1923404 [DELETED] 

>>1923398
omg, you dont fucking get it ffs
i want to play Brutal Doom with Demonstelee, improving gameplay by using Brutal Doom, it worked with other gameplay mods too, what dont you understand??????????

>> No.1923406

>>1923364
Rule of cool will pretty much almost override any calls for realism (outside of things intended to be super-realistic, anyways)

>> No.1923407

>>1923404
Improve gameplay in what way?

>> No.1923412 [DELETED] 

>>1923404
>demonstelee
>??????????

fuck i fell for the bait

WOw mods pls do a removal of this rude mcdude please

>> No.1923413 [DELETED] 

>>1923407
have you never played Brutal Doom????????
cyberdemon gets cooler, it can stomp you, humans get more cooler and stronger, i love the blood and gore, makes it more dramatic and realistic, it just improves, and fatalities are cool

>> No.1923414

Alright, changing topics: I just beat UR and Plutonia with Demonsteele.
Hot damn that was the funnest gameplay wad I've ever played.
The Archvie's fire spawns are shitlords, though.

>> No.1923415

>>1923364
the gas explosion that is meant to propel the bullet dissippates out the sides of the barrel and reduces the speed the bullet leaves the barrel?

i don't know, i'm in england where only criminals have guns so i don't know much about them.

>> No.1923416 [DELETED] 

>>1923413
>dramatic and realistic
confirmed for summer

>> No.1923420 [DELETED] 

>>1923404
Just ask mark to do a compatibility patch, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to do so if you ask politely

>> No.1923421 [DELETED] 

>people still responding to the same stale Brutal Doom bait

And here I thought /v/ was the shitposting board.

>> No.1923425 [DELETED] 

>>1923412
please join me in reporting posts.

>> No.1923426 [DELETED] 

>>1923357
>>1923421

it's useless, doesn't help certain little twats want to "have a giggle" even if they fucking know they're replying to bait

all is fucking lost; abandon ship

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>>1923413
>i love the blood and gore, makes it more dramatic and realistic

>> No.1923434 [DELETED] 

>>1923426

>doesn't help certain little twats want to "have a giggle" even if they fucking know they're replying to bait

like the one below that post, for example

>> No.1923439 [DELETED] 

Fuck off Donald / CZ / Sarias / Sgt. MArk

>> No.1923441

>>1923341
Yeah, pretty much.

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>>1923286
I know that's the joke, but here's the version without ZDaemon gamma

>> No.1923469

>>1923413
>>1923420

If anything it really should be Mark's responsibility to do compatibility patches for other mods instead of harassing every individual creator to make them forhismod.

>> No.1923472

>>1923469
STOP
FEEDING
THE
TROLL
FGSFFGDSDFFDSFDSF

>> No.1923481

>>1923406
But it's not cool, not at all, just extremely retarded.

>>1923415
That's a bingo.
There is two types of add ons that do somewhat look like it and I guess that's where this idea comes from. The first one would be a muzzle break. It's a short "ventilated barrel" that is added to the end of the actual barrel. Its function is to redirect the escaping gas and reduce recoil.

The other is a heat shield which is a "ventilated barrel" that is cut in half and mounted on top of the actual barrel. Its function is to absorb and dissipate heat from the actual barrel.

But there are no barrels with holes in them for their entire length, that would just defeat the purpose. It's as stupid as having your character use a sword with it's sheathe on but it still cuts people and when asked why you answer "rule of cool".

Only that it's not cool, it's just retarded.

>> No.1923486

>>1923481

What if I told you that this wasn't for bullets and ergo fuck your shit

>> No.1923494

>>1923469
i don't think you meant to say mark himself is telling other mod authors their work should be compatible with his.

i think what you meant to say is mark's users should ask mark for compatibility patches with other mods, not the other mods' authors.

>> No.1923496

>>1923313
Is it me, or did the horns get bigger?

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>>1923496

>> No.1923504
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>>1923486
Anything that is to be propelled through a barrel would benefit from there being no holes in the barrel. Try watering plants with a hose that's full of holes because it looks cooler. See how that works out for you.

You can still add a muzzle break at the end if you think it looks cool. There's nothing wrong with that as long as it isn't the whole entire fucking barrel.

>> No.1923508

>>1923504
even a rocket that is thrusting itself?

>> No.1923516

>>1923481
>>1923504

Except barrels with holes still look cool. Sorry.

>> No.1923526

>>1923516
tbh it doesn't look cool at all

you know what's cool

a guy being impaled to death by a metal kangaroo

you know what isn't cool

gun barrels that look like thimbles

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>>1923508
Have you ever seen a rocket launcher with holes in it? Yes, even a rocket that is thrusting itself. A barrel with holes in it defeats the purpose of having a barrel.

>>1923516
You can have the same look with a heat shield. Which is where I think that whole confusion came from to begin with. These things do exist and they do serve a function. They just aren't holes drilled into the actual barrel.

>> No.1923535

>>1923504
Muzzle BRAKE. Never forget this. Spellcheck is not vocabulary check.

>> No.1923540

>>1923526
except it does, sorry.

>>1923531
those are cool too

>> No.1923543

>>1923535
It's a typo. Calm your tits, bitch.

>> No.1923547

>>1923540
no it doesn't m8

like user >>1923531
said, don't put holes into the actual barrel like who the fuck does that

>> No.1923564

>>1923004
The Chasm is an extremely garbage map. Your just baiting.

>> No.1923571

>>1923564
it's a great map except for the running along really thin catwalks.

as a large spacious map with lots of odd little corners to explore, it's great.

>> No.1923576

>>1922518
I think you forget one key annoyance on the lost souls. They take a surprising amount of shots to kill. They honestly should be about as strong as the average zombie. Combine this annoyance with pain elemental's spitting a ton of them out or too many pain elemental's and you've got two extremely annoying enemies to deal with. I like the design and idea but I think the flaw is that the lost soul's are a little bit too strong with health. I still stand by my opinion that they are the worst enemies of Doom and it's rather interesting how they are paired to be even more annoying.

The most important thing to remember though is level design. As long as it's done very well every enemy will seem much better by comparison. Throw in a crap level with those enemies and your gonna have a bad time.

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>mfw this thread

>> No.1923591

>>1923576
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pd1cqo7fe6fne67/weakSouls.bex
Here you go. Just barely stronger than a former human.

>> No.1923594 [DELETED] 

>>1923590
i'm proud that i >>1923425 reported over 30 posts and they were all actioned. i hope others joined me as i asked.

>> No.1923604

>>1923576
From my post
>Now obviously you can't fuck about with a Pain Elemental because it spawns sturdy enemies so you need to kill it fast
I did mention how sturdy they are.

I think it's fine for them to be sturdy.
Most maps that throw a shitload of Pain Elementals at you give you big guns.

If Doom 2 didn't have Lost Souls or Pain Elementals I do not think it would be as good.
I can not think of anything that would replace the Pain Elemental's unique place in the game other than basically a ground version of a Pain Elemental.

>> No.1923607

>>1923594
Announcing reports is against the rules

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>>1921916
i've made a version of this wad that works with unmodified cc4-tex.wad. here it is:

http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=un87mt

it's important to load lovely.wad *after* cc4-tex.wad in prboom-plus, so that its TEXTURE1 and PNAMES lumps override those in cc4-tex. for example:

prboom-plus cc4-tex.wad lovely.wad -warp 30

>> No.1923625

>>1923607
oops, good point!

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>>1923425
>>1923594
>announcing reports
>ishygddt

>> No.1923628

Thoughts on Deathmatch maps? Is Deathmatch still relevant?

>> No.1923635

>>1923628
oh yes, a 4-8 player free-for-all with largely vanilla settings is great fun.

>> No.1923639

>>1923364
>>1923481
>>1923504
>>1923531
The idea was to have plumes of fire shoot out when the gun fires rockets jesus christ calm your fucking tits.

This is in a mod where you can stuff three rockets into one barrel and have it work, as well as fire four shots from a double-barrel shotgun and have it automatically reload in your backpack, and where the minigun can act as a flamethrower and spew fire from all six barrels at once. I'm going for what looks cool here, dsmmit.

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>>1923620
Hey, thanks! I was going to do that originally, then I got super lazy.

>> No.1923649

>>1923531
>>1923504
>>1923481
>>1923364
>>>/k/

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>>1923526
Over 9000000 hours in mspaint.

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>>1923656

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>>1923642
no problem. i've played through it three or four times now, and it's grown on me, i like it much more than i did at first. it's much more tractable when you know your way around.

>> No.1923721

>>1923656

I thought that looked retarded when he said it, and now that I've seen it, it still looks retarded.

>> No.1923727

>>1923656
Your welcome, patient.

>> No.1923732

>>1923656
obvious edit: replace the kangaroos head with doomguy, the greenshirt's head with an imp, and add caption "DYNAMITE!"

>> No.1923781

>>1923313
It will be pretty blunt but, looks like another imp-tan/demon with bad haircut. You used shorthair on them already, can't you try something abit different? Bangs or braids perhaps?

>> No.1923789

>>1923718
>it's much more tractable when you know your way around.
Like most maps.

I think that's a feeling missing from a lot of maps these days though, or at least it's something I miss. You can't recreate the tension of your first time playing doom (or any game for that matter) but you can make it dangerous enough for experienced players that they're still worried about what's around the next corner.

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>>1923286
>ZDaemon gamma

>> No.1923825

>>1923447
What about PrBoom+ and Chocolate? Where are they?

>> No.1923826
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>>1923364
>ventilation holes on the barrels
Unless fire/flash actually blows out of the holes, which I don't see any evidence of it being drilled into the barrel, that might as well be barrel shrouds for all you know.

Pic related is a Sterling L2A3 9x19mm submachinegun, it has a perforated barrel shroud, it serves a purpose, making sure you don't touch a gun-barrel that could be really hot from the gun firing.

Also, I haven't seen the latest Brutal Doom shotgun, but it can't really be blowing flash out of the barrel shroud/heat shield? Are you sure it's not a muzzle-brake or something?

>> No.1923837

>>1923781
This.

>>1923826
Oh come on, don't bring it back up.

>> No.1923839

>>1923825

What about them?

>> No.1923840

>>1923639
This.
I mean, I'm all for realistic depictions when feasible, but this isn't that kind of mod.

Hell, Doom had a motorized gatling weapon that fired at an RPM of like 600, that's retarded as fuck but it doesn't really matter for the stock game because it was just put in because it was cool.

>> No.1923843

>>1923839
They're not in the image. Why aren't they in the image?

>> No.1923846

>>1923843

Why should they be?

>> No.1923847
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>>1923837
I posted before actually reading all the posts, see this post instead: >>1923840

I am sorry. I did not mean to be as autistic as the other guy.

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>>1923846
They're popular sourceports, with active, albeit, rather small, communities.

>> No.1923864

>>1923847
Eh, no biggy. I just find it kind of dumb when people force real-gun properties on fantasy-gun Doom mods.
Now if this was some mod where it's like "REALISTIC GUNS!" and then adds all this shit that would never work in a gun ever, you have every right to criticize it.

>> No.1923874

>>1923494

Indeed, I would have written it that way, but my phone was being an asshole and not letting me write past a certain point, which is why "forhismod" is all crammed together.

>> No.1923875

>>1923207
This comic is not funny
who the fuck made this shit

>> No.1923883

>>1923863

Makes sense, I guess.
Yell at Terminus, then, he made the image.

>> No.1923903

Serious question guys: what makes the standard shotgun so good? And where does that "buried in shotguns" meme come from?

>> No.1923908

this thread is 2spooky

>> No.1923926

>>1923903
>what makes the standard shotgun so good
In Doom 1 it would be the ammo economy and accuracy.

100 shells = 700 bullets
It is very easy to get a shotgun and it is 7x stronger than the pistol. It also kills things relatively quickly and is reliable on everything except for Barons/Cyberdemon/Mastermind

And the only thing making it not shine against those monsters is how long it takes to kill them.

>> No.1923938

>>1923863
There's people who still use Odamex?

>> No.1923939

>>1923494
I did patches for NeoDoom and TVR!, but I never considered making patches for gameplay mods. There are Ketchup and BD Lite for that. (I'm going to update both after I release v20)

>> No.1923947

>>1923939
hey can you make a Demonstelee brutal doom patch

>> No.1923950
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>>1923903
>what makes the standard shotgun so good
Because it has relatively realistic spread, unlike the cartoonish blunderbuss you'd see in even more realistically styled games (SWAT4 comes to mind, and particularly Doom 3, where the spread of the shotgun was completely asinine), the swarm of pellets will usually score at the very least half of it's hits (but often more) at a 50ft, which makes perfect sense, shotguns are good for medium distance combat.

See also Duke Nukem 3D, you could quite effectively take on Octobrains and L.A.R.D Cruisers from a medium distance like that, it's practically like shooting skeet except you're circle strafing the clays and they're shooting at you.

Horizontal spread is also possible to achieve with various chokes and muzzle devices, such as this here Ithaca shotgun (which, by the way, you can rapid fire by holding down the trigger and working the pump like a chronic masturbator).

But it also helps that it's a simple and useful weapon that does exactly what's expected of it, and fits the games aesthetics perfectly.

>> No.1923958

>>1923947
No. I have higher priorities.

>> No.1923960

>>1923950
Polished Skull is a bit more realistic, but I think he removed that kind of spread in WIP5.

>> No.1923962

>>1923939
yo mark
any cool new finishers in v20?

>> No.1923963

>>1923950
Do you know what exact model and brand shotgun that is? Looks like it might be a Remington, but I'm not really up to snuff on my Shotgun knowledge. I was always more of a rifle/handgun type guy.

>> No.1923964

>>1923963
he just said it's an ithaca

>> No.1923965

>>1923939
>BD Lite
I've never heard of this. What does it do? Only change weapons/monsters?

>> No.1923968

>>1923964
Welp, time to go jump out my window I guess. Thanks for the heads up.

>> No.1923971

>>1923950
>which, by the way, you can rapid fire by holding down the trigger and working the pump like a chronic masturbator
This is a weapon I want in Doom now.
>Hit fire and hold to fire first shot
>Rapidly hit alt fire to continue

>> No.1923972

>>1923971
gunmod does that. Same with HD but that's not quite the same thing as regular Doom.

>> No.1923984
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1923984

How do I get brutal doom sounds and graphics changes without any of the gameplay changes?

>> No.1923992

>>1923984

>> No.1923997

>>1923984
>>1923992
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/brutal-doom-lite-v019-final

>> No.1924005

>>1923984
That would require a lot of modifications.
>Graphics
It wouldn't look nearly as good since they'd have to modify the weapons through DECORATE to keep their extra frames, or else it'd have to try to confrom to the vanilla rates.
>Sounds
But the BD sounds suck...

though no new monsters would be the easier part.

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>>1923962
No, but I am improving the existing ones. I am greatly speeding them up to don't reduce the pace of gameplay too much, making no one last more like 2 or 3 seconds, and improving their animations.

>>1923984
I have been thinking about doing something like this, that has Brutal Doom's gore, fire, water, and lightning effects, but still with vanilla gameplay (allowing the player to select a tweaked Marine that has the Assault Rifle, a shotgun that fires the same number of pellets that one SSG barrel should fire, and a faster Chaingun). Maybe I can do it after I finish v20.

>>1923965
It's Brutal Doom without the weapons, the player, and fatalities, but retains gore, effects, and monster behavior. It was meant to be used with other gameplay mods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sd4l5EOFNk

>> No.1924009

>just beat all four episodes of The Ultimate Doom on UV for the first time in one sitting

NEVER BE ENOUGH NEVER BE ENOUGH NEVER BE ENOUGH NEVER BE ENOUGH

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>>1923968
>>1923963
Ithaca M37, with an extended tube magazine and a "duckbill" choke to provide a horizontal spread.

Worth noting is that the M37 ejects out of the same port that you load the shells into, instead of a port on the side of the receiver, they're popular with left-handed shooters for this reason, for being left/right neutral.

Older models lacked a trigger disconnect, so you could slamfire it, holding down the trigger, and continuously working the pump and it would keep firing.

Here's a picture of Rowdy Roddy Piper shooting one in They Live.

>> No.1924013

>>1924007
>That last zombie
Okay I had a good laugh there.

>> No.1924015

>>1924007
>I have been thinking about doing something like this, that has Brutal Doom's gore, fire, water, and lightning effects, but still with vanilla gameplay (allowing the player to select a tweaked Marine that has the Assault Rifle, a shotgun that fires the same number of pellets that one SSG barrel should fire, and a faster Chaingun). Maybe I can do it after I finish v20.
Please do. And an option to make blood, gore, casings and shit dissappear real fast pls

>> No.1924018

>>1924010
>>1923950
jesus, fuck off to /k/ already

>> No.1924021

>>1924007
I'll have to say, I never cease to be amazed by the creativity of some of these fatalities.

>> No.1924023

>>1924018
I like his posts. Also the guns are sexy, and I'm not even /k/ommando.

>> No.1924025

>>1924009
move on to doom2 before you explode man

>> No.1924026

>>1924018

A game about guns attracts some gun enthusiasts?
PERISH THE THOUGHT.

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>>1924007
>SHOTGUNNER HEAD THROWING

>> No.1924028

>>1924018
Hey, he's being informative, unlike the ventalation screen autists from earlier

>> No.1924035

>>1924007
>that head throw
chuckled

>> No.1924038

Git gud scrubs.
LETS PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
/vr/ Samsara invasion. Password: doomedguys

Just beat that one map.

>> No.1924039

>>1924018
delicious butthurt

>> No.1924073
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1924073

I just finished making map 03 of my first wad.

I spent a lot of time creating this one and debugging it. What do you guys think?

I added a hard mode for the previous maps and fixed some problems with map 02.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/zsz7h7praxy86dw/helloworld_0.5.wad

>> No.1924145

>>1924013
ditto. actually lol'd

>> No.1924150

>>1924073

It played well for a small map. I'm compressing/preparing a video of all three levels being played. I'll link it when it's done.

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1924152

>wake up
>Check /doom/
>all them deleted posts
>BDFag was serious

>> No.1924164

>>1924009
Nice NIN reference

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>>1924164
I was hoping someone would catch that, haha.

>> No.1924190

>>1924027
>>1924007
Now I wanna see Doomguy go bowling with a Sarge's head.

Like a Sarge pops up from a machine next to the lane, you tear his head off, and then you roll it like a bowling ball, in a bowling lane, complete with gutters and pins (some substitute for pins, maybe imps?) and all.

And then a stock sound effect of a bowling ball hitting bowling pins.

>> No.1924198

>>1923972
Not quite. Those mods have manually pumped shotguns, but you can't hold primary fire and repeatedly pump to fire continuously. I don't think that's been fully implemented in any Doom mod yet. someone feel free to change that

>> No.1924208

>>1923984
I suggest combining Ketchup (not sure if there's a new vanilla gore mod) with Smooth DooM.

>> No.1924213

>>1924198

The shotgun's alt-fire in Super Skulltag is sorta like that, if I remember correctly

>> No.1924223

>>1923130
EYE Divine Cybermancy guy.

Hell is fucked.

>> No.1924253

>>1924208
Is there a BD patch for ketchup and smooth doom?
which gameplay mods are compatible with brutal doom anyways???????????

>> No.1924257

>>1924253

Probably none dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>1923130
>Jebediah Kerman In Doom II.

He may just be able to do it.

>> No.1924262

>>1924253
Well, I know HDoom and DemonSteele have brutal Doom compatibility, try those

>> No.1924275

>>1923656
thx m8

now can this get a brutal doom patch

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1924356

>>1924073
really liked the levels, that archvile was totally unexpected. There is a monster clipping error in GZdoom at pic releated and I would add 3 skeletons in the last exit room :3

>> No.1924359

>>1923130
>Huntress from RoR in Delta Invasion DTINV13
She can handle it

>tfw no RoR.wad

>> No.1924553

>>1923182
so when you look in the mirror at the end will it be revealed that the player was Donte

>> No.1924556

>>1924356
Oh cool, you're still working on this! You're pretty good m80, good secret placement, especially on map 3. I also REALLY like the theme of map 3, I've always wanted to see a UAC office with cubicles and a receptionist and shit. keep going bro! :3

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>>1922295
i was kinda hoping for something tetsuo:the iron man/H.R.Giger

>> No.1924579

>>1924007
>I have been thinking about doing something like this, that has Brutal Doom's gore, fire, water, and lightning effects, but still with vanilla gameplay (allowing the player to select a tweaked Marine that has the Assault Rifle, a shotgun that fires the same number of pellets that one SSG barrel should fire, and a faster Chaingun). Maybe I can do it after I finish v20.

This sounds good but if by fire you mean keeping the mancubus fire effects I'm not sure. That fire effect it leaves on the ground can ruin balance of certain maps

>> No.1924619

>>1923179
But doom mods are allowed to be discussed here, so why not let people discuss brutal doom? Is it really so hard to just say that you don't like something personally but at the same time you don't mind if other people discuss it?

>> No.1924623

>>1923219
Why is there no GZdoom guy in there? Or Zandronum for that matter.

>> No.1924625

>>1924623
[NO]

>> No.1924626

>>1924623
Z& is short for Zandronum.
GZdoom is literally Zdoom with another render slapped on, so I really don't see them as different.

>> No.1924628

>>1924623

Z& = ZANDronum, you fartknocker

Also Zdoom and GZdoom can be considered one in the same really.

>> No.1924634

>>1924619
okay, imagine this scenario.

Man looks at door, door has writing on it that says "This office is full of people who dislike Brutal Doom and all those who discuss it".

Why is it then your first impulse to attempt to discuss Brutal Doom with these people?

>> No.1924642

>>1924634
Because this is the doom general, it seems rather silly that a given doom mod should be excluded from it just because a bunch of people here hate it.

>> No.1924646

>>1924642
I dont mean a bunch of people in the general hate it, I mean the general ITSELF hates it.
Get what I mean?

>> No.1924650

>>1924646
Don't speak for me, I have a lot of fun with Brutal Doom.

>> No.1924661

>>1924646
I don't really think it's the case that the ENTIRE general hates Brutal Doom. More like a very vocal segment of it does.

>> No.1924663

>>1924646
I don't hate it personally, but I prefer to avoid talking about it because we become shitstorm general when it comes up sometimes..

>> No.1924664

>>1924650
I know. You're the one trying to discuss BD with the rest of us. If this was /Dont discuss Brutal Doom/ general, would you still try to discuss it?

>> No.1924668

>>1924664
No no, I'm not >>1924642 I'm just a guy who's been lurking.

And yeah, if this was /Dont discuss Brutal Doom/ general, I wouldn't discuss it. But this is /Doom/ General, and people talk about all kinds of mods.

You have no basis to regulate what others can or cannot talk about, especially since it pertains to the topic of the thread.

>> No.1924684

>>1924668
I thought the rule of thumb was to talk about BD when Mark talks about it...maybe.

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>>1924619
>>1924642
>>1924650
>>1924668

Okay, I'm going to be extremely generous and assume that you legitimately don't know and are just actually curious.

The problem is that Brutal Doom is inherently a massive shitstorm.
It's the same as mentioning 4e on /tg/. It's the same as mentioning Project M in the Smash Bros. threads. It's the same as mentioning Kamen Rider Wizard on /m/. It's the same as talking about "techno" on /mu/.
There are so many fucking pitfalls to be had with the conversation and it's so fucking easy for some shitlord to come along and stir up everything with "Brutal Doom is Doom 2.0" or "[insert mod here] needs to be compatible with Brutal Doom" or "I'm brand new to Doom and played everything through with Brutal Doom" or so so so much goddamn more.
And then there's the obvious bait like "why do you guys hate brutal doom" or "only hipsters hate brutal doom" or "sgt mark did nothing wrong" or "YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS", which couldn't be more low-hanging bait even if you slapped the world's biggest fucking :^) next to it.

Is conversation on Brutal Doom banned? Hell no. You can really talk about whatever you want.
Is the mod completely shunned? Hell no. Ignoring a mod as popular as it would be completely stupid.
Do we all hate it and everyone who plays it? Hell no. There's a whole bunch of us who think that, at worst, it's merely aggressively mediocre, and another bunch of us that actually unironically like it.
But is it generally better to not try and discuss it? For the sake of everyone's sanity and for the sake of the thread, yes.

inb4 it was a rube and it still gets pushed

>> No.1924727

>>1924709
>It's the same as mentioning 4e on /tg/
I dunno about those other things but I used to post on /tg/ fairly frequently and after the initial release shitstorm you can typically discuss 4e without having massive flame wars.

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Can we update the FAQ and make a rule that says, in huge red font, Do not talk about Brutal Doom?

Because it seems that, no matter how much disdain and dislike is shown towards it and how many posts are deleted that relate to it, there still seems to be many Brutal Tards that still persist in talking about it.

>> No.1924734

>>1924727

Mentioning Other M in a Metroid thread, then.

>> No.1924745

>>1924734
I've heard a little about Other M and the insanely massive hate for it, how it shit over all the metroid games that came before it and so forth. But I really don't see how Brutal Doom does that other then by being balanced differently then vanilla.

>> No.1924746

>>1924745

The comparison isn't between the products, the comparison is between the shitfits it causes.

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>Responding to BD Posts in any way, be it with hate or otherwise

>> No.1924752

>>1924746
What are some other good mods similar to it then? I know there's beautiful Doom but an anon yesterday didn't like a certain thing it did.

>> No.1924754

Could somebody post the "So you want to play some DOOM" infographic for a newfriend? I promise I'll save it this time.

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>>1924754

Enjoy, mate

>> No.1924759

>>1924752
Also we need a new thread. I want to talk about how I'm enjoying B2SX E1 right now. Playing it vanilla with crosshair and using GZdoom in case anyone was curious.

>> No.1924764

>>1924752

That depends entirely on what you want when you say "similar to it".
If you want something that polishes up Doom's base gameplay, then there's Beautiful Doom, Smooth Doom, Polished Skull, and Super Skulltag.
If you want something that makes gameplay faster and much more visceral, there's Psychic, Project MSX, DemonSteele, and Terrorists.
If you want something that's LOADSA PURTY, there's the Blood Droplets mod, Particle Fire Enhancer, and Lovely Doom.

>> No.1924767

>>1924757

Thanks mane.

>> No.1924776

>>1924626
Now explain why DoomRPG actually requires GZdoom over Zdoom

>> No.1924780

>>1924764
To be completely honest? I feel the mod would be much better if it removed the finishing moves and the "attitude" for lack of a better word. Also the Mancubus fire canon shouldn't leave flame all over the floor. I mentioned that earlier actually.

So essentially I would love to try out anything that does what I just described.

I'm not too sure about MSX. It looks kinda fun I guess but I feel it's way too different from Doom. Smooth Doom looked pretty neat actually. Didn't like how Psychic looked. Polished Skull looks pretty fun.

Actually I'm pretty new to the wads and mods scene and I welcome anything new that looks fun to me.

>> No.1924783

New thread when

>> No.1924784

>>1924556
thanks anon

i haven't started planning the next map yet though. what do you think the theme should the theme be?

also how do people go about designing such large and complex maps? I tried doing some of that when designing the current one, but it always ended up small.

>> No.1924785

>>1924780
welcome to the scene
check out >>1924757
and enjoy

you may enjoy accessories to murder, which some people have taken as an alternative to burtl without the attitude

>> No.1924789

>>1924776

Does the latest SVN of ZDoom not run it or something?

>> No.1924804

Why is BD a shitstorm?
It's just a mod.

And if it has anything to do with us "not liking" the creator then those reasons are dumb.

>> No.1924809 [DELETED] 

>>1924804

And this is a magnificent example of the types of posts to avoid.
Do not respond to or engage him.

>> No.1924815 [DELETED] 

>>1924809
Don't tell me what to do
>>1924804
I agree

>> No.1924821

Baking new bread.

>> No.1924826

>>1924780
While on Berserk mode, you can press R to switch to Smash Mode. This removes the finishing moves.

>> No.1924828

>>1924826

But you lose the HP recovery and invuln frames.

>> No.1924835
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>>1924804
It's not about the creator nor the mod,is about its userbase.

They over-rate it like if it's the second coming of jesus, some of the reasons from some people that don't like it are just basic stuff[reloading, time eating finishers, silly effects like bulletholes on the screen.], the big problem (imo) is that there are people that think BD is a standalone game which can be loaded with other mods[Protip:it's not] and thinking it will work.
I know Mark is making BDlite, which is making it other mods to be rethorically speaking, BD compatible but in my opinion it would be better if Mark himself told these idiots that you CANNOT load other weapon mods with Brutal Doom because Decorate reasons, or tell them to use Ketchup if they want gore.

In short, we hate the idiots that over-rate BD and try to stir up shit because of past drama like the Jelly train

And before someone says ">responding", this thread is on bump limit and on page 6 so idgaf

>> No.1924841

>>1924809
oh come on I feel like we should talk out what is and isn't appropriate discussion so we can put it to rest.
Otherwise it'll keep coming up.

For instance, I feel that
the creator's code style
the creator's "borrowing" habits
--(the fact that those should or shouldn't be called stealing habits)
the creator's crediting habits
the creator's attitude
the creator's "racism"
the mod's fanbase
and the fact that fans think more highly of the creator and think him more responsible for the game/mod then they perhaps ought to

are all irrelevant as to whether the mod itself is bad.

Ethics and such between modders is great, but leave that to those doomforums to sort out. Here at /vr/ we shouldn't get caught up in that nonsense. We should just be discussing the actual game of DOOM and its mods, no matter how "cancerous" the mod's fanbase is or isn't.

He's getting too much credit?
The fans think he's cool?
He's getting too big for his britches?
He's being hypocritical?

Who cares? /vr/ certainly shouldn't.
All those things didn't change the mod itself in any way, so I don't care.

And the fact is, he does produce content that isn't TOTAL garbage, which makes him a decent contributor to anyone who plays DOOM.

So all this talk about undeserved fame is really irrelevant. So long as we don't WORSHIP him, it's fine.

>> No.1924851

>>1924828
isn't what >>1924780 asked for? I guess when he said "remove the finishing moves", he was talking about the whole concept and everything.
And you still can get bonus health from cruelty bonus.

>> No.1924852

New thread.

>>1924842

>> No.1924912

>>1924709
that's a good post, it should be edited into the faq

>> No.1924972

>>1923826
Go and load up Brutal Doom and fire the shotgun and you'll see. It's all over the place.

>> No.1924985

>>1923864
Then why not just have pink dildos that fire dancing frogs out of their urethra? The guns are obviously modelled after real guns. It's not autistic to to think that holes over the whole length of the barrel are retarded. You'd have to be completely uneducated for that to not look stupid to you.

>> No.1925087

>>1924646
But that is absolutely not true.

>> No.1925737

>>1924985
>The guns are obviously modelled after real guns.

Sure they are.

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Opinions on what you're able to see even if it is small.

>> No.1926182

>>1926165
Is that a new juggalo enemy or part of a Payday mod?

>> No.1926187

>>1926182
Payday mod.

>> No.1926193

>>1926165
>>1926182
>>1926187
See
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