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DOOM THREAD - Last thread >>1908620
(other retro FPS also welcome, chances are we played 'em too)

====WEBSITE/COMMUNITY====

http://doomwiki.org/
The OFFICIAL Doom Wiki, actively maintained and supported by the Doom community. Want to learn more about Doom? Check this site first!

FAQ/Pastebin, updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
http://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames torrent (as of 11/25/2013; 12GB): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

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===NEWS===

EPISODES! EPISODES EVERYWHERE! Back to Saturn X EP 2 and Adventures of Square EP 1 are out now!
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69960-back-to-saturn-x-episode-2-public-beta-1/
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46604

Plutonia 1024 got a release too, but to less hype. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1286407 THAT'S A LOAD OF WADS!

Doomhack! It's...well, it's something. It's also legal to play now! http://pastebin.com/X5dddz3F

TimeOfDeath has just released a compilation of his maps, named ESP. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69846-esp-33-hard-maps/

Randy has been working on porting Blood stuff to ZDoom! Could this mean Bloodites can finally get a day to shine?

Hideous Destructor got a neat little update taking care of the DERP. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12973

The Adventures of Square, a graphically-simplistic TC came out. http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46604

Here's a music stream that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/

===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
The Space Pirate: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing (tutorial: http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y)

Other:
Doom RPG: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
DoomRL Arsenal: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
Hideous Destructor: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Hocus Doom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=45804

Got something news-worthy? Reply to this post, or it'll likely be missed.

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Posting for newfriends.

>> No.1914350

just a small note, Square repeats itself in the News section; nothing to be alarmed

>> No.1914352

>>1914350

Oops. My bad.

>> No.1914354

I haven't seen Marty in a long time.
Did he leave?

>> No.1914356

>>1914354
He still hangs out in the IRC. I think he's busy with some IRL stuff or something, since TSP is officially on hiatus.

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Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhd0FAkcxvY

Every day until you like it

>> No.1914361

>>1914359

But I already like it

>> No.1914362

>>1914359
There are people that don't? Also, I think I'm going to cut a portion of that sound and make it my alarm.

>> No.1914363

>>1914356
Is there a list of what he wants to add? I know he wanted to add some Titanfall-style stuff in, but that's about it.

>> No.1914364

>>1914363
>What Marty wants to do with Space Pirate
- Finish it

>> No.1914380

>>1914359
what is the map the video is recorded on?

>> No.1914394

>>1914364
>finish
>space pirate

>> No.1914403

>Playing Demonsteele
>Cyberdemon rocket about to kill me
>Shoot grenade at the ground
>Rocket flies upward instead of hitting me in the face
I love this grenade launcher.
Works great when there's just this giant mass of homing rockets coming your way.

And those Pain Elemental guys in general.
And Archviles.

>> No.1914404

>>1914380

The guy who made the maps with Revenants in closets, this is his 2nd (or 3rd?) map.

I think this is the one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20454382/ThereAreNoSkeletonsInThisMap.wad

>> No.1914406

>>1914403
that thing is a damn useful weapon all around
explosions slightly go through walls, awesome rocketjumping, deflects shots, has a massive spread, good rate of fire
complete lack of impact damage and no combo on kill really hurts it though

>> No.1914410

>>1914406
I don't really mind the lack of combo on kill/damage, it's a great utility weapon and good for offense in general.

I've also been using the Hammer/Mace a lot and that's been really useful for just general hordes of enemies while saving special meter.

The only gun I don't really touch is the SMG, just doesn't feel as useful as the shotgun and since it's in the Plasma Rifle pickup slot it's not too common.

>> No.1914414

>>1914410
Also I have to say, the Hammer/Mace doesn't really have much use until it's got at least 60 energy.

And I've never really found a use for the full 200% charge since it takes so long. I prefer to make a lightning field and just smack things around while things are painlocked.

>> No.1914415

>>1914404
>Play through map, reach the end
>Get boned
>After I fall, all the enemies stop moving and just look at my corpse
>Except one
>Through the forest of boney legs, I can see the requisite archvile murder a single boner.

Never would've even noticed it otherwise.

>> No.1914416

>>1914414
>And I've never really found a use for the full 200% charge since it takes so long

thing's great for murdering masterminds and cybers
pretty hard to get anything good going otherwise

>> No.1914420

>>1914414

I'll reduce the amount of time it takes to charge, then. From 85.7 seconds to, oh, 51.4 seconds.

>> No.1914421

>>1914416
I actually dance around Masterminds like nothing.

I forgot the girl's name moves fast enough to circlestrafe while hacking away really.

Same for Cyberdemons.

It's kind of like punching a Cyberdemon to death but easier since the sword has range.
Can also bop them with the Hammer once or twice to get pain going with the lightning field.

Demonsteele is fighting for the place of my favorite gameplay mod, holy shit

>> No.1914424

>>1914415
what if that is the afterlife, an eternity of being stared at by whatever it was that killed you

>> No.1914425

>>1914420
That is a nice idea.
It's still too long to just charge it in the middle of any fight, but doesn't take as long to charge it up before one.

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>>1914424

>> No.1914428

>>1914426
that's horrible, no offence but i'm hiding this post

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>>1914428

>> No.1914432

>>1914425
A question about Demonsteele's sword though.
I know there's rapid slashing and specials right right now, I was wondering if there is more moves planned for it.

>> No.1914435

For someone who wants a mostly authentic vanilla Doom experience without having to deal with DOSBox, is Zdoom alright?

>> No.1914436

>>1914432

Nothing concrete, though there's quite a few "would be nice" ideas.
The very first build had the hwando separated into two distinct fighting styles, tentatively named Wild Gaijin Flailing (click button recieve melee) and Glorious Nippon Discipline (time your strikes to form beat-'em-up style combo chains).
Eventually Wild Gaijin Flailing became the mainstay and Glorious Nippon Discipline was cut, but I'd like to revisit that sometime and see if it can be done better.

If you have any other ideas, though, I'd be open to hearing them.

>> No.1914437

>>1914435
Chocolate Doom would be better for what you want.
Much more accurate.
Although you can get ZDoom and adjust it, that would take more effort.

>> No.1914438

>>1914435

It's "all right" if you use the strict compatibility options, but Chocolate Doom or PRBoom+ would generally be much more vanilla.

>> No.1914439

Don't punish him for not knowing, for god's sake

>>1914435

Get ChocoDoom, it's totally focused to have the 1993 feel, and it's the best thing around that does that job

>> No.1914440

>>1914436
"new" weapon where you holster the guns and have only the sword out
primary fire is the typical, but secondary fire is different sword maneuvers in line with that

>> No.1914445

>>1914436
Well I like the sound of timing your strikes a lot.

How about a Power stance?
Big slow slashes with a little area effect but maybe you have to give up having a free right hand so no guns.

Although I'd have to know how the timed combos thing would be balanced out before a third stance there.

Barring that, how about have both the flailing style and the timing style then make it so the style meter add some extra little effects that would be different for the two stances.

Like say.. Frantic flailing lets you go a little faster as it ranks up(And makes more blood come out), timed strikes gives you more power or something.

I'm not sure if any of that is really feasible or particularly interesting though.

>> No.1914448

>>1914437
>>1914438
>>1914439
Chocolate Doom keeps crashing at the end of E1M2 for me and keeps hanging when I try to exit, forcing me to force quit. But ZDoom runs perfectly.

Is there a difference between ZDoom with strict compatibility options and Chocolate Doom other than the framerate?

>> No.1914449

>Plutonia 1024
>It took the difficulty along with the textures

Welp.

>> No.1914450

>>1914440
>>1914445
both of these sound cool

>> No.1914452

>>1914448
There might be some differences but I wouldn't worry about it too much.

>> No.1914453

>>1914448

a BLOCKMAP mechanic that was "fixed" in ZDoom, and lets you kill stuff more easily with the BFG

For example, a mastermind will take some skill to be killed by a single BFG shot in vanilla ports, but you can just run directly in front of one and shoot the BFG and you can rest assured it will die in one hit

tl;dr - stuff only the purest of purist will grumble about

>> No.1914457

>>1914452
>>1914453
Okay, thanks.

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>> No.1914459

>>1914458
>Doomguy will never be your El Uncle
I didn't need this sadness tonight anon.

>> No.1914462

>>1914458

despite Doomguy being an unhinged fighting man and a half capable of beating the shit out of hell so hard it gives up, I picture Doomguy being a pretty good guy.

>> No.1914464

>>1914462
Doomguy is a good guy though.
Backstory explains it with the reason he ended up stationed at Phobos.

>> No.1914467

>>1914458
>Kicking the door
He should make the door lift and break the ceiling, without using hands

>> No.1914468

>>1914464

I mean a good guy in the sense of he'd totally chill with you and bring drinks and big guns to shoot shit with.

>> No.1914473

>>1914431
He looks like Debilitas from Haunting Ground.

>> No.1914478

>>1914468
Well I can see that too.

He is clearly very selfless and will fight singlehandedly to protect people if he has to.

I would take him for burgers.

>> No.1914496

>>1914403
Whenever I play Demonsteele and cause explosions my framerate drops to its fuckin' knees

>> No.1914506

>>1914496
The only time I really have framerate issues is if I do Back Specials on huge hordes of Imps/Zombies or set off a series of barrel explosions.

Outside of that it surprisingly has little issues.
Not even with armies of Archviles calling their armies of flying flames spewing fireballs everywhere.

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Still need a name for these guys.

Also I'm highly considering releasing a new version of GMOTA soon so you guys can test out the new humans and retooled scattershot

>> No.1914540

>>1914532
Black Vipers.

Contra reference

Probably not retro enough though since they aren't Red Falcon types.

>> No.1914542

>>1914540

>contra reference

Ah fuck. I like your style. Black vipers it is!

>> No.1914578

>>1914467
They cut the two frames before where all they heard outside the door was UNF UNF UNF

>> No.1914585

>>1914359
Has that scene in dumb and dumber been edited with this?
"Want to hear the most agitating sound in the world?...AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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What's a good soundfont to use for Doom?

>> No.1914601

>>1914585

It has now

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QafJWXIkU2

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>>1914601

>> No.1914671

>>1914591
MusicAnons soundfont

>> No.1914676

>>1914671
Not him but link?

>> No.1914683

>>1914591
Patch93's SC-55 soundfont is probably the most 'authentic' available for doom.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27048651/SC-55.sf2.bz2

>> No.1914690

>>1914676
He's just joking around. MusicAnon was some random jackass who stole random songs and claimed he made them with a "soundfont he had". Later after being confronted about it, he refused to release the (obviously non-existant) soundfont, saying it'd be illegal to do so.
....or something like that. I wasn't really around when it happened.

MusicAnon's soundfont doesn't exist. It never existed.

>> No.1914696

>>1914690

Oh yeah! I remember that now, actually.

>> No.1914725

>>1914683
Thanks, this sounds good.

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hey /vr/, i've decided that i want to learn how to into acs and decorate. where is a good place to start?

>> No.1914756

>>1914731
Open random WADs and look at their scripts. Once you feel like you're familiar with the syntax and the overall feel of ACS, copy some code snippets from the ZDoom Wiki. Study them and try to figure out which line does what, and how. If the code that you copied works, go ahead and customize it a tiny bit.

Learning from others' stuff helps a lot. Basing your first attempts off their work is also a great way to learn. Just don't forget to ask them first/give credit if you're planning to release your scripts

>> No.1914767

I just found a DOOM/Mass Effect fanfiction that's gonna heavily incorporate Brutal Doom.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10669661/1/Brutal-Effect

The author also plans on doing a similar crossover with Dragon Age.

>> No.1914769

Gonna start working on the HDoom Baroness very shortly - either today or tomorrow, most likely. Shouldn't be too hard since i already have a hellknight girl sheet with the skin recolored.

Any suggestions for hairstyle, hair color, and eye color?

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>>1914769

>> No.1914780

>>1914769
Either a messy short mop of brown hair or a long black, braided ponytail. The eye color should be green.

>> No.1914787

>>1914171
I didn't said you don't have permission to use stuff from Brutal Doom, I said that you should give me credits about these stuff.
Also, if you want, get sprites from that v20 test that the Russians leaked. The ones you are currently using are outdated.

>> No.1914803 [DELETED] 

>>1914787
Yeah - we're replacing them mostly because the gore effects I'm working on for Term are meant to be off-the-wall crazy. Like something you'd see in a ridiculously gory anime or a movie like Braindead/Dead-Alive.

>> No.1914804

>>1914787
keep being based sarge
i like you this way

>> No.1914805

>>1914787
Yeah - we're replacing them mostly because the gore effects I'm working on for Term are meant to be off-the-wall crazy. Like something you'd see in a ridiculously gory anime or a movie like Braindead/Dead-Alive.

As you've said yourself, you're trying to go for something more semi-realistic with BD, so the sprite asthetics won't match up right in the long run.

>> No.1914806

Holy shit, the Revenant meme is unfunny and overused.

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>>1914769
Pigtails.

>> No.1914812

>>1914807
Ew... no.
That hair-style does NOT work with that body.

>> No.1914816

>>1914756
alright, thanks

>> No.1914821

>>1914780
>>1914769

Ponytail would be cool. Green maybe to go with the cartoon feel.

Random ideas:
Imp firebolts should be heart shaped
Monsterettes not properly satisfied should get up and carry on after a while

>> No.1914823

>>1914769
MASSIVE 1970'S AFRO
THE LION'S MANE

>> No.1914837

>>1914821
Yeah, those are both pretty good ideas. I kept thinking about that for the imp and then never got around to it.

If it's possible to get working, the second idea would work great for one of the harder difficulties.

>> No.1914840

>>1914458
sauss?

>> No.1914843

Who's the creator(s) of HDoom?

>> No.1914847

>>1914843
Stapler-San, Mike12 and Mystical.
Arguably all of us here if you consider our feedback.

>> No.1914854

>>1914780
I'm doing a mockup with this in mind now, and I like it. Making the eyes an emerald/bluish green so that they don't fuck with Doomguy's color range (which'll be important when we work on getting the player color to carry over to h-animations)

>> No.1914857

>>1914854
is that still a problem in 32bpp/OpenGL ?

>> No.1914921

>>1914854
>getting the player color to carry over to h-animations
I've been hoping for this the whole time. I changed my color to be "nude", and I was kinda disappointed it didn't work.

>> No.1914932

>>1914767
>853 words
C'mon, man. At least wait until he's got something substantial.

>> No.1914938

>>1914921
>I changed my color to be "nude"
I've heard of player skins but this is ridiculous!

>> No.1914940

>>1914932
Well, considering the lack of DOOM fanfiction, I figured it'd be a good idea to bring attention to something with potential.

>> No.1914949

>>1914787

While you're around, I want to ask you why do you replace evil eye decorations with some gargoyles? Are those supposed to be some logo of yours? Or you didn't find evil eyes to be suitable to the game?

>> No.1914959
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>>1914854
Alright, here's the first frame/concept

>> No.1914968

>>1914959
The hair is great!

The two different shades of green clash a bit to my eyes. Maybe make the eyes a few shades bluer? Not sure.

>> No.1914974

>>1914968
I agree with this guy. The eye is the only thing that bothers me a bit.

>> No.1914975

Do you guys use sprite or particle blood? Which one should I use?

>> No.1914978

>>1914959
Hmm... let's see the ponytail version, if there is one.
Maybe have the hair fall to the middle of her back?

>> No.1914980

>>1914975
why_not_both.jpg

>> No.1914981

>>1914975
I like to enable both at once. I wish the puffs had that feature too.

>> No.1915007

>>1914974
>>1914968
yeah, will probably tweak the eyes a bit later when i'm less tired.

>> No.1915034

>>1914767

>Ctrl + F
>Miran
>0 results

D R O P P E D

There ain't nothing more brutal in the galaxy than her ass

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>>1914769
>>1914959
guess I'm too late but I always imagined her looking the same as hellknightgrill
but with her hair cut short and pulled back plus her pinkier skin,
giving her a more tougher look and a sisterly link between the two?
I love what you did though.

((sry for mspaint and mouse, not at home))

>> No.1915042

>>1915035

I am fine with butch/muscular pinky/baron grill.

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#ThanksPetersen

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1302614#post1302614

>> No.1915050

>>1915047

It's not like any of Doom levels made any sense.

You end each level hitting some mysterious switch and then you end behind some metal doors.

>> No.1915056

it's e2, hell distortion corrupting normal rules of physics

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Would you buy this?

DOOM Classics Collection
>Doom 1
>Doom 2
Unlockable
>Doom 64
>Doom RPG

>> No.1915065

>>1914959
The face is very difficult to see.
Also I'd have thought her horns would be larger because she's stronger.

>> No.1915068

>>1914959
inb4 that one idiot says something about her apparently being fat.

>> No.1915069

>>1915063
make it happen

>> No.1915070

>>1915068
How could someone think she's fat? Just look at those sweet abs.

>> No.1915072

>>1915070
theres always that one guy though. Always used to complain about the archvile concept

>> No.1915076

>>1914769
Neck long, ruffled black hair.

>> No.1915085

>>1915070

Some nerds have only ever seen women in CLAMP anime or Senran Kagura and think anything more than three inches wide is fat.

>> No.1915086

>>1915063
I honestly would, with some limited ZDoom style mouselook with the stick (I'd feel better about being able to aim my own shots like that).

>> No.1915095

>>1915086
I could see a lockon feature that moved your aim up and down based on enemy position being an optional feature

>> No.1915103

>>1915065
yeah, i'm still deciding on horn size - probably going to tweak the hair a bit more so that it doesn't 'blend' with the face

>> No.1915106

>>1915086
Eh, I kinda dislike the dual stick shooters myself. Though the Metroid-style touch screen controls are somewhat awkward as well.

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>>1915085
Thick is best.

>> No.1915153

i hope DOOM 4 will be as moddable as the classic

also fuck jetpack revenants

>> No.1915164

>>1915106
Honestly, I'm not a fan of handheld shooters in general. The DS finally got decent ones by the end, but the controls are always going to be awkward as hell. Controllers already have issues with shooters, handhelds are worse.

>> No.1915169

>>1915164
PC master race for FPS, eh?

>> No.1915191

>>1915169
controller is not platform. keyboard+mouse versus gamepad controller is orthogonal to PC versus console.

>> No.1915197

>Making a pokemon rom hack
>Starters are based on Doom monsters
>Start designing them
>Realize I can't sprite for shit

RIP Ideas

>> No.1915213

>>1915197
Ask someone who can. Hell, be like Term and come up with ideas and outsource the spriting to others. Maybe you can make a DOOM wad outta this.

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>mfw
why is epic2.wad so good?

>> No.1915219

>>1915217
It's the masterpiece of one of the community's truly great mappers.

>> No.1915234

>>1915219
it gets too intense for me while on UV and Doom RL Arsenal + monsters and I don't want to start over

any tips for better survival?

>> No.1915237

>>1915213
The only one I had designed was the fire starter

>Based on a Lost Soul
>Final version is an imp with a Lost Soul like mask
>Arms are made of fire

>> No.1915240

>>1915234
i dunno...
>summon RLHighPowerNuclearPlasmaRifle
maybe?

>> No.1915247

>>1915234
summon RLAgitatingRevenant

>> No.1915256

>>1914769
make her classy

>> No.1915257

i can't get into doomrla, all the "normal" weapons are distinctly underpowered compared to their vanilla counterparts and it takes playing three or four maps of a megawad before you get enough modpacks to make some decent ones. sometimes you get a lucky drop but it's too rare to rely on. what do people use the technician's starting modpack on? is it worth immediately putting it on the pistol, or saving it?

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>>1915197
there you go

>> No.1915270

i don't think i've ever even seen one of the exotic modpacks, i loved reading posts where people said stuff like "slap a firestorm on it" like they find them everywhere or something.

>> No.1915273

>>1915257
Use the shotgun, it's the only weapon that's pretty much super close to vanilla still. It'll only go up in power, especially if you overload it with Technical mods.

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>>1915247
even worse

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>>1914806
pic related credit goes to robotjoe

>>1914787
props. BD v20 when?
Also any chance that you give Baron of Hell a charging/running faster ability so he doesn't dick around like a bullet sponge?

>>1914769
Long hair with bangs and braids. it could be dirt-red but that would look like very imp-tanish, shiny jet black is cool. Also even I adore your demon design can you add punk hair? Like a mohawk?

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>>1914806
pic related credit goes to robotjoe

>>1914787
props. BD v20 when?
Also any chance that you give Baron of Hell a charging/running faster ability so he doesn't dick around like a bullet sponge?

>>1914769
Long hair with bangs and braids. it could be dirt-red but that would look like very imp-tanish, shiny jet black is cool. Also even I adore your demon design can you add punk hair? Like a mohawk?

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>>1915267
Needs more goomy

>> No.1915289

>>1915287

more like DOOMy amirite

>> No.1915301

>>1914478
>Doomguy is a reincarnation of jesus christ

>> No.1915302

>>1915301

> And Doomguy looked to his deciples and said, "Take this and eat it, for it is my HUGE GUTS."

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>>1915278
even worserer


Yeah, I'm quite bored, hehe.

>> No.1915308

What Doom crossover would you like to see?
http://www.strawpoll.me/2499212

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Just a single screenshot right now, nothing new this evening, mostly adjustments, will keep mapping, will post more this night

1/2

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2/2

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>>1915308

>> No.1915317

>>1915307
Where can I find all the summon commands for doom rla

>> No.1915319

>>1915315
>tfw this will never happen

>> No.1915324

>>1915317
In the mod.

All actors have rather straightforward names that conform to specific patterns, so it's pretty easy to work most of them out.
Just don't summon guns with Pickup on the end, or I'll make skeletons dance in your liver at night.

>> No.1915332

Doom x SMT wouldn't be too hard to make into a WAD

Just import SMT demons and give them new attacks.

>> No.1915334

>>1915308
>no Doom May Cry

>> No.1915335

>>1915334
Dead series need not apply

>> No.1915337

So in Demonsteele can the SMG replace the Chaingun pickup?

It's really not worth replacing Cells and the Plasma rifle and is pretty lousy.

>> No.1915340

>>1915337
The SMG just feels kind of awful in general. If it were more accurate, I'd probably actually use it. But it's so inaccurate that it's really only useful if you're already in sword range, and at that point why bother?

>> No.1915349

>>1915340
The amount of recoil is also ass

>> No.1915352

>>1915340
I like the sound and design of the SMG but it's not particularly powerful.

I think it would fit better in the Chaingun slot due to it's strength and weaknesses.

Right now I am playing Speed of Doom and I hit Twilight Massacre and it's giving me literally thousands of SMG bullets. Not really useful and totally not valid as a Plasma Rifle/Cell replacement.

>> No.1915356

>>1915273
heh.

so i started a run of doom2. i didn't find a single modpack until map05.

i got lucky with weapon drops though. i have an uzi, an assault shotgun, and a laser rifle from a crate. what should i use a power modpack on?

>> No.1915357

>>1915308
I could go for Left 4 Doom.

>> No.1915362

>>1915352
>Just found out those Pain Elemental replacements can revive enemies
IS TERM HAVING A GIGGLE ON MY BEHALF

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>>1915217
I thought Epic 1 was better. More varied/interesting maps.

>>1915219
I dunno, I've played a lot of Eternals maps, a lot of them seem to hinge on looking good rather than being fun.

>> No.1915370

>>1915356
If you are still a Scoot, jam it in the Uzi.

>> No.1915385

>>1915370
i'm not a scout,i'm a technician

>> No.1915389

>tfw no easy way to play doom on Linux
>tfw Zdoom doesnt work in Wine

>> No.1915391

>>1915284
>credit goes to robotjoe
what who? I made that image, unless you're referring to the original with the hungry skeleton or whatever.

>>1915357
This should totally be done.

>> No.1915397

>>1915389
vanilla doom?
doom legacy?

Zdoom is not that haaard of compile.

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>>1915389
>>tfw no easy way to play doom on Linux
You what? I'm on Linux right now. It runs much better than Windows.

>> No.1915407

>>1915404
Did you have to compile GZDoom?

>> No.1915414

>>1915407
Not as long as http://debian.drdteam.org/ exists.

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>>1915414
thank you so fucking much

>> No.1915421

>>1915095
uh, doesn't doom natively support auto-aim?

>> No.1915424

>>1915418
Sadly, they don't do dev builds and that's starting to show with GZDoom, but last I checked GZDoom wasn't too hard to compile.
SLADE, on the other hand...

>> No.1915430

>>1915421
Think of it like super auto aim. If a Caco is flying around, hit the lock on button and your gun will follow him all around, even if it's just looks only.

>> No.1915457

>>1915362

What. Why
L

>> No.1915460

>be playing with DoomRL Arsenal
>Revenant's Launcher
Heavy agitation, nightmare agitation or spamming agitation?

>> No.1915461

>>1915457
I don't know if it was a bug or not, but there was a whole mass of them that I can't hurt due to only the SMG being available floating way out of any effective range and and above a mass of revenants and they were coming back to life.
So did Hell Knights and shit.

I was very unhappy and basically cheated the rest of the level after that.

Had something like 8000+ enemies total when the map starts with almost 3000

>> No.1915475

>>1915337
>>1915340
>>1915349
>>1915352

Well, let's see here.

11 tics for a pistol shot.
One bullet with 15 damage.
So since you can do three shots in a little under a second, its DPS is around 47.7272-repeating.
It takes about 28 tics for a full shotgun shot.
It fires 16 pellets with 13 damage each, and 16x13 = 208 damage on a full hit. (35/28)*208 = 267.43 DPS.
The SMG takes 3 tics for a shot, and can fire seven times in a second. Each bullet does 12 damage. So 7x12 = 84 DPS.
The grenade launcher fires in 16 tics, launches a grenade with all of 10 impact damage and 256 explosive damage--but good fucking luck hitting with all of that since it's all spread out, so it's more like 128. So (35/16)*128 = 280 DPS.

So we have DPS of:
Pistol = 47.7272
SMG = 84
Shotgun = 267.43
Grenade launcher = 280

...Huh. That's quite a disparity.
I don't think I'm very good at balance.

>> No.1915480

>>1915308
>no Doom x Devil May Cry

>> No.1915495

>>1915475
But even if you look at it like that there are other things to consider.

Pistol has great accuracy.
Wouldn't mind seeing it more powerful and firing slower or something, I like the design but right now it's mostly for popping at those shadow guys and maybe long gunners out of reach until you get another gun.
Shotgun is great for close quarters, obviously.
Grenade Launcher has utility usage and damage.

SMG needs something to stick out
And accuracy. And not take the place of Cells.

>> No.1915501

>>1915480

>Doom with DmC 2013

>FUCK YOU! YOU ARE HUGE THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE FUCKS! FUCK YOU!!!

>> No.1915512

>>1915501
>that abortion of a game

Doom May Cry 3 is where it's at

>> No.1915527

>>1915391
came across to it in a tumblr account so i assumed it belongs to the owner who's also an artist (also furry). I shoulda inspect the tags closer then...
>(originally from araindemon)

>> No.1915538

>>1915475
What is flailing gaijin swings DPS at top speed anyways?

Surprisingly I don't use guns very much except for enemies out of sword range, and even then I greatly prefer to dash in.

I'm very very sword focused.
When I do use the secondary weapons it is the shotgun/grenade launcher/Hammer(Mace) though.

I really don't touch the SMG and the Pistol is mostly for shooting switches.

Pistol and SMG need some crazy ass buffs because they're the only things that are potentially suited for the flying enemies when they refuse to come down

>> No.1915558

>>1915501
That already exists, it's called Brutal Doom

I'm making a joke. No need to start a fucking shitstorm.

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>>1915538
>What is flailing gaijin swings DPS at top speed anyways?

Each swing fires two projectiles that deal 30 damage, and each swing takes five tics, so 60x7 = 420 DPS.

>> No.1915575

>>1915561
How did the Pistol and SMG end up so bad?
Hammer(Mace)/Shotgun/Grenade Launcher are all very good and have lots of uses.

Pistol/SMG kind of don't.
I don't even know how to bring them up to par.

>> No.1915643

>>1915527
Heh, that's not even me either, but it seems that a lot of people found it from ARD. I even reblogged his post myself.
http://orangestar12.tumblr.com/post/92108507802/look-guys-im-popular
god i need to update that tumblr theme

>> No.1915654

>>1915643
>Yo. I'm Daniel. 16,
UNDERAGE

>> No.1915661

>>1914959
For me interpretation of the Baron for HDoom always was some kind of Ara Ara mature woman with decently long hair.

>> No.1915663

>>1915654
hahahaha i havent updated that thing in like
2 years

>> No.1915670

>>1915661
Could be a mature woman with shorter hair.
Hell Knight has the long hair.

>> No.1915672

>>1915670
Well yeah, then it's probably about how her hair is crude looking and not groomed properly, she's one of the most high ranking womyn after all.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvi5xn0rh5ovu61/te13-DemonSteele.pk3

Here we go, I've done a few changes I'd like your opinions on, taking a little bit from a lot of people.
The Acacia pistol fires just a smidge faster and its damage has been doubled.
The Sabbath SMG's damage has not quite been doubled (from 12 damage to 20), but its accuracy has been tightened up dramatically and it has a high chance to inflict painchance on enemies--and when they're pained, they stay that way for 10/12 tics, recoiling back a bit. Even the Cyber/Spidermind have a higher painchance to it.

Oh and the Testament's been sped up by two tics just because.

Let me know if this changes anything, please.

>> No.1915717

>>1915480
Psychic, Guncaster (though the latter is like if someone made Bioshock Infinite into a CUHRAAAZY game), and that anime mod from the guy who did Zero Tolerance?

>> No.1915721

>>1915717
>Psychic
It didn't really do much with DMC sounds besides having it.

It was much more focused on powers.

>Guncaster
Not even remotely similar to DMC and the guy behind it himself said it is more Bioshock.

>Anime mod
Don't know it.

>> No.1915727

>>1915717
>Guncaster

We're looking for good mods, anon.

>> No.1915730

Personally I think demonsteele is the closest thing we've gotten to devil may cry doom. It just has a little bit odd arcade brawler and animu mixed in.

>> No.1915746

>>1915730
>animu mixed in
So, Devil May Cry.

>> No.1915782

>>1915727
How's it bad?

>> No.1915790

>>1915782
le rotsprite face.jpg

>> No.1915792
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A friend wanted to play some RGA2, so I put up a server running RGA2 on Epic 2. It's open to /vr/ as well, on the offchance that anyone here cares to play.

Server: :: [BE] Montreal :: /vr/ plays with heavy firepower!
Password: vrtroopers

>> No.1915793

What are some things that contribute heavily to a good map?

>> No.1915803

>>1915793
Fun and interesting fights.
Good pacing.

>> No.1915835

>>1915717
>anime mod
the stranger?

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>>1914805
So, are you going for something like Elfen Lied, right? I would strongly suggest you to drop dead these Nashgore sprites, they don't look anything like anime blood. You should try Metal Slug's xdeath blood sprites (and this even consumes less memory, since there are less actors being spawned).

>> No.1915856

>>1915840
These look more like the watery spray blood from japanese horror/gore porn to me. Agreed that if they're supposed to be anime styled they should probably be... goopier.

>> No.1915859

>>1915856

Or you can take into account that the demons are so angry that their blood pressure is through the roof or some shit I dunno.

>> No.1915864

>>1915840
Yes, please?
Whatever you're currently using is horribly memory hogging, and managed to slow multiple wads to a crawl for me.

>> No.1915868

>>1915859
Well I just meant how it's small particle spray and further from a cohesive spray. It all depends on the style he's going for though. Neither bother me.

>> No.1915869 [DELETED] 

>>1915840
Hey dude how do you feel about id software ripping off Brutal Doom with Doom 4?

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>>1915840

I've had a sheet of Metal Slug blood I've been poking at for a while, trying to figure out how to use. Now that I see it in action, looks like it'd be perfect for those more spray-happy deaths.
I'll give that a shot, thanks.

>> No.1915875 [DELETED] 

>>1915869

They said they were drawing inspiration from the Doom comic on their twitter, so that's not true (unless your'e just stating your opinion).

>> No.1915876

>>1915869
Don't stir shit up, he made it apparent how he felt. We still have yet to see what Doom 4 is like anyway, unless you were at Quakecon.

>> No.1915878

>>1915875
Wait, what?

>> No.1915879

>>1915875

"They" being id Software, by the way.

>> No.1915880 [DELETED] 

why do you guys claim brutal doom sucks?
i played it and liked it, can you give me valid reasons why it sucks?

>> No.1915883

>>1915875
>>1915876
>>1915878

>Don't stir shit up

That was his exact intention. You will bear responsibility for this thread going to shit.

>> No.1915884 [DELETED] 

>>1915880
No one here has said that brutal doom sucks.

>> No.1915889 [DELETED] 

>>1915880
It doesn't. It's all opinion, man.

Personally I prefer sperglord edition. Due to the chainsaw mostly. the swipe is a lot more fun than the chunky grind in vanilla/BD imo.

>> No.1915894

>>1915880
I prefer H-doom because you get to fuck the demons

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same goes for BD posts

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Why?

>> No.1915905

>>1915869
Got mad when I heard about it, but now I really don't care anymore. Thinking about it won't change anything.

>>1915874
I can post the ones I got done and the code if you want. (why the hell Terminus enjoy using A_SpawnDebris instead of A_CustomMissile?)

>>1914949
The Gargoyles are the evil eye's replacement in Doom 64. I always found them much more sinister and cooler than the evil eye, but I will remove them on v20. It's not worth to keep them and fuck up the sprites of mods that makes custom use of this decoration such as TVR! just because I find it cooler.

>>1915284
Still gonna take months. The Baron of Hell already has the quintuple projectile attack, and a very special thing that I will only show up on v20's trailer, so, I don't think it needs more features to distinguish him from the Hell Knight.

>> No.1915907 [DELETED] 

>>1915880
https://430f537b0783af2ae992610b81d7cb4e953a19cd.googledrive.com/host/0B7weGRL72yVXbWY1SEd0UHF6Qm8/doomsite/faq.html#q12

>> No.1915910

>>1915905
Hey dorko, change BD so that rounds don't get blocked by enemy corpses.
It's really annoying.

>> No.1915913

>>1915903
you need to scale down your crosshair m80

>> No.1915915 [DELETED] 

>>1915880
Every complaint I've heard has been irrelevant tripe.

Attacks against this guy
>>1915905

or stuff like "the code isn't organized"

Personally I think it's fine, just needs some changes.

>> No.1915916

>>1915746

Pretty much.

Hey term where the fuck are the pizza food pick ups

>> No.1915917

>>1915903
Are you using GZdoom?

Gzdoom's pretty damn lazy in how it handles the GL features. Only the OpenGL features are offloaded to the GPU, while everything else - sprite, flat, texture, etc. rendering - is still on the CPU. At least that's what I've heard. I could be 100 percent incorrect.

>> No.1915919

>>1915913
>>1915903
Seriously, can someone explain why PRBOOM+ handles it just fine, but GZdoom gets huge frame drops?
Planisphere 2, by the way.

>> No.1915920

Is there an iOS emulator or something?

I want to play that Doom rpg

>> No.1915923 [DELETED] 

>>1915880
Brutal Doom is objectively bad, because it sucks.
It uses modern stuff like iron sights and human enemies are fucking op, hell they are even more annoying and dangerous than the cyberdemon itself.
theres a lot more that sucks, but yeah, brutal doom is shit.

>> No.1915924

>>1915917
does prboom+ send it all to the gpu?
Because it runs good on that one.

>> No.1915927

It's an abstract kind of hell.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K69tleAhfkU

>> No.1915928

>>1915924
PrBoom is faster because enemies are hardcoded.

>>1915920
Doom II RPG got an iOS port, it's better than the Doom II RPG Java version.

As for Doom I RPG, yer fuked son

>> No.1915930

>>1915928
I dont have any iOS devices lel

I want to play em tho

>> No.1915931

>>1915928
see, but I ran it with nomonsters, and it still had frame drops when I faced the city

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>>1915905
>why the hell Terminus enjoy using A_SpawnDebris instead of A_CustomMissile?

My preferred spammed command of choice is actually A_SpawnItemEx. The A_SpawnDebris comes from Doom Radys, which is really kind of silly because it has pretty much no major points of customization--you can't even change the x or y location of the spawn point!
While normally I'd be incredibly appreciative for the code, I figure this is something I really need to learn how to do properly, so I think it'd be good if I experimented around with what would work and what doesn't instead of just getting something good from the getgo.
Thanks for the offer, though. If I really can't get it working, I'll hit you up.

>>1915916

Burgers are better.

>> No.1915934

>>1915927
nouh my god

also
>activision

>> No.1915936

>>1915931
Did you try it with vid_renderer 0? (software mode?)

>> No.1915937

>>1915840
These blood showers are pretty great.

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>>1915927
>the message size
>the music speed
>aiming with the dpad
to what end

>> No.1915941

>>1915936
yeah, that's what's weird.

Software mode, no monsters, final destination, and it still runs at like 10fps, if not worse

>> No.1915946

Anyone else been using that music randomizer ripped from GMOTA? I've bloated mine up with 300 megs worth of music

http://www.mediafire.com/download/pzk25aslbr2mv0c/randomizedmusic.pk3#

>> No.1915948

>>1915938
I beat Doom 2 on a GBA. Not a micro though. Once you get used to it it's not that bad. I beat Doom 1 on a SNES too, though...

>> No.1915950

>>1915946
I just have a plug.dj with video game music playing.

>> No.1915951

>>1915948
It'd be interesting if you could use a mouse + dpad to play SNES Doom. It might actually work pretty well.

>> No.1915954

>>1915951
SNES had a mouse. Don't think it had a keyboard, but I could be wrong... Even a mouse + dpad would work pretty damn well though.

>> No.1915963

>>1915910
I'm going to remove corpse collision at all. For v20 I decided to remove any features that can fuck up gameplay.

>>1915932
Yeah, learn how to use A_CustomMissile, and make your blood actors actual missiles instead just tossing them to the air and using A_CheckFloor to detect if they are touching the ground. This isn't just easier and more reliable, but also generates decals, and less shit to process.
One more thing: Make the blood spots have no translucency. Translucent actors are more expensive to render, and it will also make the blood look better, because blood is not translucent.

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>>1915932
>spoiler
Hell yes

>> No.1915969

>>1915963
Even for kicking? I liked kicking them around.

>> No.1915971

>>1915907
Do we have a doom site anymore? Is this one updated at all?

No 200 minutes of /vr/ on that list.

>> No.1915974

>>1915969
Only heads and body parts will be kickable.

>> No.1915976

>>1915927
the first time i played doom was in gba and i fucking loved every second to the point that the label is almost rip it out

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>>1915964
ade a burger :D

>> No.1915982

>>1915971
I'm in the process of converting our existing FAQ and "vr's stuff" pastebins into a workable site.
I'm hosting it on Google Drive for now, but it's almost done and when it is I'll put it on an FTP and share the password with regulars.

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>>1915963
>This isn't just easier and more reliable, but also generates decals
What
you can generate decals with a_spawnitemex perfectly fine!

>> No.1915984

>>1915963
good, now the chaingun won't suck as bad.

Have you looked into bullet penetration?

>> No.1915990

>>1915978
>mfw i have a fat fetish
double hell yes

>> No.1915995

Is there a trick to killing Arch-Viles? Fuckers are annoying.

>> No.1916001

>>1915995

Shoot them until they die.

>> No.1916003

Anyone got a copy of FKER that doesn't shit the bed on your starting weapon?

>> No.1916006

>>1915995
watch pro doom strats

>> No.1916015

>>1915995
Use SSG
Pain chance is awful on the fuckers.

>> No.1916016
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>>1915983
I thought that only projectiles and missiles could spawn decals.

>>1915984
I have fixed the chaingun's problems a long time ago.

>> No.1916018

>>1916016
>50 rounds to take out 7 zombies
See this is what I mean about needing bullet penetration

>> No.1916019

>>1916003
Just modify it to make it not use ammo.
That'll fix all of it's problems and it will still be balanced-ish.

>> No.1916020

>>1916016
Brilliant work as always, Mark

>> No.1916032

>>1916020
>a tenth of your ammo to take out seven measly zombies
>brilliant work as always

heh

>> No.1916036

>>1915982
Sounds good. Not sure what newer /vr/ wads should be added, just noticed the one was missing.

>> No.1916042

>>1916019
The pistol is pretty much designed (so it seems) to reward you for keeping it charged. It needs a damage buff if anything. Enough so it can take out a zombieman or two with all 5, but not too much so that it can just be w+m1'd like a mini shotgun.

>> No.1916046

>>1916018
it used to be worse

>> No.1916049

>>1916046
true

>> No.1916056

>>1915982
Make it a wiki or something user editable.

>> No.1916058 [DELETED] 

>>1915923
>Brutal Doom is objectively bad
cute opinion

>It uses modern stuff like iron sights
Which you literally never have to use unless you're a fucking pleb that can't aim.

>human enemies are fucking op
git gud faggot

>> No.1916061

>>1915978

Fug

>> No.1916065

>>1916056
I would, but Wikis always become a horrible mess of links.
Additionally, you need someone to host the software which is often a pain to set up and costs dosh. Wikia is a piece of ass, so it's not a good alternative.
And lastly, while everyone being able to edit it seems good at first, that makes it more susceptible to blanks and other dumb attacks.
And this isn't big but it contributed: Websites allow more flexibility.
This is why I chose a site with a shared password.

>> No.1916067

>>1916042

The plasma pistol sucks.

>> No.1916069

>>1916067
Which is why I suggested a fix. Nice job reading it.

>> No.1916071

>>1916069

I did read it. I agree fully with your idea on making individual shots doing more damage.

It's that or speed the charge rate up. It's such a frustrating weapon

>> No.1916087

>>1915905
>Got mad when I heard about it
Why? lol. You want them to credit you or something?

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cocaine is a helluva drug

>> No.1916104

>>1915995
Fastest method is BFG. One good hit and it's dead. 40 tics, just a little more than a second. But you don't always have the BFG. In those cases, the second fastest weapon is the Rocket Launcher. Four rockets over 80 tics. If you don't have the space to use rockets safely, you can use the plasma rifle (anywhere from 60 to 480 tics or 20 to 160 shots, but on average, 105 tics/35 shots) or the SSG (228 tics for four shots, but a much better chance of causing pain, which will cancel their attack if it's in progress). When you know about their presence and focus on removing it, they're not so threatening.

>> No.1916107

Orright question for the better demonsteele players: what's the trick to blocking things with the sword? it seems that I tend to dodge things Marathon style or get hit more than actually blocking projectiles. any hints?

>> No.1916110

>>1916087
I'd be pleased as punch if the dev of the game I'm modding takes some ideas from the mod.

>> No.1916112

>>1916065
If you have a decent internet connection, maybe use a home server?

XAMPP is a good automated Apache Web Server+MySQL+PHP solution.
And I recommend DokuWiki. Or you could be cool and do all of your HTML and CSS by hand.

You can use FreeDNS.Afraid.org to get a subdomain name to point to your home IP.

>> No.1916113 [DELETED] 

>>1916091

Fucking
GLORIOUS

anyway, putting that bastard in the comic is exactly what he wanted all this time from this place, so I'm not really sure how to feel in the end

>> No.1916114

>>1916091

It's... It's beautiful

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>>1916091

>> No.1916124

>>1916071
Ooh, so the way I see it there are two ways ti go from here
>Up the charge rate to put its uncharged firerate on par with the rifle
This keeps it useful but doesnt outclass the rifle
>Make it do more damage but not an inordinate amount
Which makes it more rewarding to keep it charged

>> No.1916126

>>1916091
Haha very nice, right on the Sgt. mark

>> No.1916128

/vr/: Probably Hats
What is the password?

>> No.1916131

>>1916091
>That Dio and Jotaro on the back.
>Troll escapes through a secret door.
>That jetpack revenant and arch-vile in the middle.

>No discussion about the H-Doom models and how X model is better.
>No drawfags.
>No Demonsteele.
>The last button is not the Duke self-destruct button.
>Lack of UNFs.
9.5/10, almost perfect.

>> No.1916143

>>1916091
Breddy gud, I give it an 8.8/10

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>>1916091

Magnificent.

>> No.1916150

>>1915414
Is this still alive? GZDoom alone hasn't been updated in a year.

>> No.1916165

>>1916107

Blocking with the sword seems to be the fallback option for when dodging has failed/there's no room to dodge. So the timing is when it's just about to hit you.
I've gotten pretty efficient at it and so pretty much fucking nothing hits me anymore, but if you need to practice summon an imp or a chaingunguy and go to town.

>> No.1916167

>>1916124

Yeah man there you go. There's potential for a fun back up weapon for rooty rooty shoots. It doesn't need to be game breaking shit.

>>1916131

It needs some WHOOPS, someone being buried in shotguns, and Caleb being hanged in the background.

>> No.1916172

>>1915995
Find something to hide behind so they can't attack you.

>> No.1916179

>>1916150
Again, they only do stable builds.
It's just that GZDoom doesnt like to consider anything "stable".

>> No.1916185

>>1916091
oh fuck this is great
I dont get the Hexen joke?

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>>1916091

BENELLUS
THE GOD OF SHOTGUNS

>> No.1916189

>>1916185
[spoile]It's Professor Layton
He does puzzles

>> No.1916193

>>1915063
I would love to see some form of ZDoom-derived port with PWAD and PK3 support on any handheld, really.

Make it happen neo-id and Bethesda, start working with the modding community on this

>> No.1916194

>>1916193
Someone made a GZDoom port for Android.

>> No.1916197

>>1916194
Is it not shit?

>> No.1916201

>>1916193
>start working with the modding community

Hi, welcome to planet Earth

It is pretty well known Bethesda leaves all the job to the modding community of their games.

>> No.1916215

>>1916201
Of course Bethesda games rely on mods to be good, but I don't actually know if they actually fraternise with modders themselves or take features from some to put in a new game.

I do know that Oscuro of OOO got a job at Obsidian, though. Apparently Trainwiz spoke with Todd once and he's working on a mod with Kirkbride, too.

>> No.1916220

>>1915932
>Burgers are better.
them fighting words

>> No.1916227

>>1916091
This is divine, I don't think anybody will believe it but I loled irl... Hard.

Also, requesting the name of the shotgun angel invincibility guy.

>> No.1916229

>>1916187
>>1916227
Thank you, McFly

>> No.1916231

>>1916227
see
>>1916187

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>>1915932
>>1916220
what about the double pizza burger?

>> No.1916237

>>1916016

Sergeant Mark, do plan on re-implementing the dodgerolling from BDv18? Rolling around my enemies and pumping lead into them felt so good, and I really missed it in v19.

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1916239

>>1916220

YEAH WELL I'M READY TO FUCKIN' FIGHT, MATE

>> No.1916275

>>1916091
awww. i recognise your artistry sir. you're the same guy that made the 'every /v/ thread' ever comic some years ago. I loved that. hope you're well x

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1916282

If anyone is bored, you're welcome to join me for some Friday Night Samsara

>> No.1916292

>>1916282
I'll join, but what's the password?

>> No.1916321

>>1916239

Hey man I got no beef with you

>> No.1916327

>>1916239
Is that a Banjo Kazooie character

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>>1916321

>> No.1916329

>>1916282
Oh shit I remember this level.
I always wondered where the song came from.

>> No.1916335

I'm out of lives in Stronghold, what do I do?

Start a new game?

>> No.1916338

>>1916282
>crosshair
>in Doom
but why

>> No.1916339
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>>1916150
Honestly, if you need a dev build, GZDoom is piss easy to compile.
Follow the directions on this site word for word and it'll work perfectly.

http://zdoom.org/wiki/Compile_GZDoom_on_Linux

>> No.1916356

>>1916292
doomedguys

Probably should have mentioned that.

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1916367

>>1916091
>loss in the second panel

Subtle, almost missed it. Good work.

>> No.1916371

>>1916339
Man, I remember back when ZDoom used the MIDAS sound API.

FMOD is a pain, its proprietary design won't allow for ports to other platforms than what they already support. Reverb/doppler and other psuedo-3D audio effects are cool, but not used much.

>> No.1916374

>>1916367
What a imagination man, there's no loss there.
Anyway, iif it's indeed there it would be a bad thing.

>> No.1916398

>>1916338
That INVASION level requires jumping and aiming up and down.

>> No.1916410

>>1916338
Because the level was designed with it in mind.

>> No.1916424

>>1916398
>>1916410
>responding
but why

>> No.1916432

>>1915063
>unlockable
why would you hide games behind requirements?

>> No.1916436

>>1916432
Because that's what they dod.

>> No.1916439

>>1915840
Looks great.
>>1916239
I was going to reply with an angry pizza but my internet went out and now it's too late ;_;

>> No.1916441

>>1915954
If I remember, Wolfenstein 3d had SNES mouse support

>> No.1916448

>>1916436
I dunno, just seems dumb to have "doom collection" and have it be only 2 games until you do whatever to make it 4 games

Also what about Final Doom?

>> No.1916449 [DELETED] 

>>1915995
seriously? you suck /vr/oom babbies

>> No.1916456

>>1916448
But, the Sonic Mega Collection had it and it was ok.

>> No.1916459
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1916459

DOOM?

>> No.1916465

>>1916367
>loss in the second panel

What the hell do you mean?

>> No.1916472

>>1915047
What's the problem in this gif?

>> No.1916478

>>1916459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrjSqK7xPLE

>> No.1916482

>>1916472
That door is the one you spawn in front of, but it could not logically go anywhere. It'd just be a wall.

>> No.1916483

>>1916472

What's behind the door?

>> No.1916491

>>1916472
Someone carelessly left a box of shotgun shells lying in the middle of the corridor. Someone could trip and sprain an ankle.

>> No.1916501

>>1916478
lol he looks like such a dorky lil white guy in this

>> No.1916505

>>1916478
fucking '80s

that overdone cool guy alpha male shit was so lame

>> No.1916510

>>1916505
but he's RADICAL DUUUUUUUUUUUDE

>> No.1916517

>>1916091
>Garrett stealing james bonds shit
At first I was like "leave the thief threads out of this"

Then I noticed that.

This image is great.

>> No.1916528

>>1915217
What weapon pack where you using?

>> No.1916547

>>1914807
Hurry up nigger, 3-4 npcs aren't enough to keep me satisfied especially when the metroid mod is no longer being worked on which is full of asshole. He could've just redone everything, though painful, it could have had potential and could have had more ideas and been like "You know what, rather than giving up, i'll take advantage from my experience, have 20 backups, have consistent updates as an extra way to back up, and add more stuff since I'm even more skilled than I was before." Even if he is redoing it we have no confirmation. His work on the one npc that replaced the nazis was fucking awesome. So I hope this project actually goes underway and becomes what we've all dreamed of.

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>>1916510
for you

>> No.1916549

>>1916482
>>1916483
I know, but this is Doom not Half Life.

>> No.1916551

>>1914959
>>1916547
I should've looked a bit further in the thread before replying to just one person. Anyway Great work.

>> No.1916552

>>1916528
DoomRL Arsenal.

>> No.1916561

>>1916549
Do you people really care about that while playing Doom?

>> No.1916563

>>1916547
>especially when the metroid mod is no longer being worked on which is full of asshole. He could've just redone everything, though painful, it could have had potential and could have had more ideas and been like "You know what, rather than giving up, i'll take advantage from my experience, have 20 backups, have consistent updates as an extra way to back up, and add more stuff since I'm even more skilled than I was before."

Holy shit you are mad that one mapper is no longer doing a map.

>> No.1916565

>>1916552
Sweet thanks dude! and that will make the weapons have those sprites?

>> No.1916573

>>1916565
Not that anon but DoomRL arsenal has a fuckton of weapons. You will first have to find them.
If you just want them sweet sprites download eriguns.wad it has that plasma gun and replaces the other guns sprites too.

>> No.1916575

>>1916565
Yeah, that particular weapon is called a High Power Plasma Rifle. 1 Power mod pack and 1 Bulk mod pack on a plasma rifle results in that, for example

>> No.1916584

>>1915903
WHAT MOD? MY DICK IS HARD, I MUST RUN THROUGH THAT CITY AT ONCE! LINK ME LINK ME LINK ME!!!!

>> No.1916593

>>1915927
My only complaints would be how the chainsaw doesn't sound like a heavy caliber vibrator and rather is a 3 second loop and how the auto aim is a piece of shit.

>> No.1916597

>>1915324
how would I summon for example a mod pack, I want to test out some guns

>> No.1916609

>>1916584
He just said it. Planisphere 2.

>> No.1916616

>>1916584
You are panel 17 of >>1916091

>> No.1916618

>>1916609
Rely? K thx. Have a demon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FprnC95FEY

>> No.1916664

>>1916618
they managed to make the most eargrating doom song bearable

>> No.1916703

>>1915309
This room is real boring looking, bro. I would put a cool-looking + or x design in the middle of the ceiling and add some shading, that would really make the room more visually interesting without compromising its architecture

>> No.1916707

>>1915407
>>1915424
>compiling
Why do they make it so hard?

>> No.1916709

>>1916707

You're playing on Linux.
You honestly expected it to be any different?

>> No.1916736

>>1916707
>Read README
>Make sure you have needed -dev files
>cd $sourcedir && ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall

Compiling really isn't that hard; this is your basic song and dance for any Debuntu compilation. Differences are generally noted in the README, as with GZDoom, which needs an external library and uses cmake instead. Their wiki page spoonfeeds everything and you can simplify it to a bash alias if you want after the initial run. For example, my old one, obviously somewhat outdated, went as follows:

alias zupgrade='cd ~/Downloads/Source/ZDoomGit/ && git pull && cd release && rm -rf * && cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DFMOD_LIBRARY=/usr/loca/lib/libfmodex64-4.28.07.so .. && make -j 2 ; cd ../../GZDoomGit/ && git pull && cd release && rm -rf * && cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release - DFMOD_LIBRARY=/usr/local/lib/libfmodex64-4.28.07.so .. && make -j 2 ; notify-send ZUpgrade "(G)ZDoom git updates complete"'

>> No.1916752

>>1916707
You act like Linux is just like Windows.

>> No.1916775

>>1916374
>>1916465
See the the paper of that guy who recommends a wad

>> No.1916804

>>1916367
>>1916775
God dammit. You sneaky bastards. I'm going to be seeing this shit for the rest of my life.

>> No.1916861

>>1916549
>but this is Doom not Half Life.

thankfully

>>1915919

because >>1915917, and also PrBoom+ doesn't choke when loading a map with millions of linedefs

>> No.1916864

>>1916275

It can't be, do you think it really is X?

>> No.1916869
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1916869

what are your thoughts on Sonic Robo Blast 2?

>> No.1916883

>>1916065
All websites become "a horrible mess of links" eventually. It's kind of the point of the web.

Plus FTP with a shared password is worse. It only takes one guy having an IMX-style sudden meltdown to delete the whole thing.

>> No.1916894

>>1916883
>All websites become "a horrible mess of links" eventually. It's kind of the point of the web.
Bullshit, just look at the site you're on. Each in-site link has it's own category and section on each page. It's nice, user-friendly, and is easy to update.
You go to a fan wiki and you've got lots of individual pages for mods, lots of entire lumped-in category pages of mods, several pages with hackeneyed tutorials, lots of pages with "im working on this so keep watching ;)" that never get finished, lots of pages that are just plain lazily written...
>It only takes one guy having an IMX-style sudden meltdown to delete the whole thing.
Blanking things is just as easy on a wiki. We can just do backups
(as I was already planning, since backups are a normal thing), re-up, change the FTP password, and be golden.

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1916898

finally maxed. it's so easy to die on this thing

>> No.1916909

Terminus what happened to your video of the happening, i can't find that shit

>> No.1916914

>>1916898

what kind of lunatic plays on nightmare

>> No.1916919

>>1916914

Achviles can push the kill count above 100%.

>> No.1916925

>>1916909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x2Vn2qhCA

not him but do you mean this thing

>> No.1916928

>>1916925
no, the happening from pol.wad

>> No.1916937

>>1916928
i see, then you want this video, it's not one of terminus'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=614akDkzvtE
starts around 15:50

>> No.1916941

>>1916937
no, term used to have a video of just the happening, i'm not crazy, you're crazy

>> No.1916946

>>1916941
oh, so now not having an encyclopedic knowledge of some zandronum mod dev's video history makes you a crazy person?

oh well, sorry i couldn't be of assistance

>> No.1916952

>>1916941

[04:51:01] <TerminusEst13> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XhsuJLA3ko

>> No.1916956

>>1916941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XhsuJLA3ko
It's still there.

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>>1916952
>>1916952
thanks anon i knew i wasnt crazy
>>1916946
do you hear that, you are the crazy one, i am sane and you are not

>> No.1917000

>>1916091
>Layton stomping on a copy of Hexen

Holy shit my sides

>> No.1917068

>>1915840

Something more like Genocyber or Violence Jack probably, but yeah, that looks about right. And don't worry about the nashgore,. I actually already have a bunch of replacements for them done, making use of some Nightstalkers sprites, some handmade gibs, and a bunch of recolored/edited Strife gibs.

As for the blood sprays, i'm actually working on a new handmade blood set/system, and i'll probably be adapting/customizing the Metal Slug sprays to fit in as well.

>> No.1917082

>>1917068
Never saw Violence Jack but Genocyber was surprisingly tame

>> No.1917084

>>1917068
That, and i'll have to edit the really big Metal Slug sprays a decent bit - since as another anon said, they're not quite goopy/bright enough to completely fit with the 80's animu style of gore i'm going with.

Personally, I also think we should use Metal Slug explosions and cut down on the explosion particles by around half - but that's Term's call to make.

>> No.1917085

>>1917082
Genocyber had some ridiculously gory moments in the second episode, iirc - the other episodes were a good bit more reserved. Violence Jack 2 (and to a lesser extent, 3) are more constantly violent - and both series have a style that I like.

>> No.1917089

>>1916001
>>1916006
>>1916015
>>1916104
>>1916172
Thanks all. I figured them out. Just have to lose eye contact with them. Constantly be on the move and strafe behind shit.

>> No.1917092

>>1917085
Well I did kinda like Genocyber for what it was but I was surprised at how the violence didn't seem THAT ridiculous.
I did watch lots of over the top violent stuff before so maybe I am just used to it.

The english dub though, man that was bad.

>> No.1917096

>>1917092
Yeah. Genocyber isn't quite as over-the-top as what I'm going for in my spritework for Demonsteele, but it's a good starting point and one of my inspirations for how to color and stylize some of the blood/gib/death effects.

>> No.1917136

Is -fast supposed to make slaughter type maps easier? Tried it out on Deus Vult 2 and I feel like the figths are easier than when I played this the first time around.

>> No.1917138

>>1917136
it's six of one and half a dozen of the other

on the one hand its easier to get infighting going because the monsters blast constantly and you just have to line them up

on the other hand once a horde has been thinned out a single or a few remaining monsters can be a lot more annoying to manipulate because they turn into gun turrets when you are in their line of sight

and you can't lose concentration for a second, because there's so much more fire in the air

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>>1916016
I quite like the belt, initially, though I should point out that appear to be linked by absolutely nothing, you should draw a little gray patch over the bullets, and then some little gray pixels between the bullets. NATO forces today use disintegrating linked belts for machineguns, the belt link is broken off and thrown out (separately) with the empty casing, I think that would be a good thing to model it on.

They also seem to be defying gravity, by hanging stiffly in the air like that, which you wouldn't have to change, if you put them through a feed chute (basically a flexible chute that you run the belt through, it makes sure the belt feeds properly and doesn't twist, and it shields the belt from snagging on things).

But I really like where the minigun is heading, it's looking better than ever.

>> No.1917154

>>1915792
My nigga the pw ain't set.

>> No.1917158

>>1915792
hahaha who even draws these things

>> No.1917160

>>1915217
what the fuck is epic? isn't serious sam 3 basically the same thing only a billion times better?

>> No.1917170

>>1916573
>>1916575
sweet thanks guys!

>> No.1917179

Were all maps in Plutonia 1024 designed for pistol start in mind (playing on Hurt Me Plenty) ?

i assume each map was made on its own but i'd rather ask

I wish people mentioned in the readme file if it was designed with or without pistol starts in mind

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>>1917179
>playing on Hurt Me Plenty
why

>> No.1917183

>>1917182
Not him, but I start wads I never played before on HMP, if difficulty modifiers do anything. If I liked it enough to play it again, I'll bump it up UV.

>> No.1917184

>>1917068
>>1917082
>>1917085
>>1917092
You guys seem to have good taste. What are your favorite violent anime? I've seen everything mentioned in the thread so far. I know from experience that I can't ask this on /a/ without getting banned.

>> No.1917185

>>1917182
I can handle UV just fine, and I used to play in UV all the time. However Doom 2 wads tend to go overboard with the number of enemies, and it just gets boring and tedious. It's more tolerable in HMP.

>> No.1917187

>>1917179
>Were all maps in Plutonia 1024 designed for pistol start in mind (playing on Hurt Me Plenty) ?
almost certainly. any community project with more than a couple of mappers can be assumed to be pistol-start designed.

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>>1917160
Can we talk about serious sam a little?

I am going through the original now (played FE classic, finishing SE HD) and man, except for some gimmick rooms I am having lots of fun.

Level design is usually quite simple but the gunplay is my favourite in any FPS

>> No.1917194

>>1917184
Off the top of my head, I'm pretty fond of Berserk, Genocyber, Mad Bull 34, Violence Jack and M.D. Geist,

>> No.1917196

After being done with Doom I and II, what wads would you recommend?

Plutonia or Evilution?

>> No.1917197

>>1917193
haha if only you could do that with revenant punch swings

>>1917196
do you think doom2 levels should be:

1. longer, or
2. harder.

if you chose 1, play Evilution.
if you chose 2, play Plutonia.

>> No.1917206

>>1917197
>if you chose 1, play Evilution.
>if you chose 2, play Plutonia.

Ok, thanks

>> No.1917278

>>1917193

ahah nice one

>> No.1917280

>>1915903

>15 fps
>freelook
>cheat to the top of the building

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>>1916703

'see what you mean, is it better this way?

>> No.1917291

>>1916804
>>1916775

Still don't get it. Do the lines on the paper mean something? What the hell is "loss?"

>> No.1917305
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>>1917291
Its a reference to the infamous CAD comic by Tim Buckley.

It has spawned a bazillion edits and /v/ is still obsessed with it for some reason

The lines on the paper are a minimalistic representation of pic related

>> No.1917308

>>1917305

Ah, I get it now.


Hoo damn that one anon really DOES have ah hell of an imagination.

>> No.1917342

>>1917283
Way better! The comp terminal things in the middle actually make the room a lot more interesting to move around in too

>> No.1917378

>>1917342

Thanks!
It's always good to have some people who have an objective look at my maps.

>> No.1917393

>>1917378
i agree with >>1917342 although the wrapping of comptall, splitting the open wiring panel in half, is a little unfortunate.

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>>1917305
>>1917308

>> No.1917403

I think I'd like back to Saturn X more if I had the feeling the various levels felt as if the tech base served some purpose. Doesn't help that the individual levels are not named after possible locations.

>> No.1917407

>>1917393

Fixed already, don't worry :)

>> No.1917451

>>1917305
>The lines on the paper are a minimalistic representation of pic related
how? I don't see it at all

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>>1917451

>> No.1917484

>>1916046
It's not about reducing the time they stay standing and are ripped to shreds, it's about the bullets penetrating their bodies and hitting what's behind them. Large calibers go through human flesh like a hot knife through butter.

>> No.1917492

>>1917451
Look very, VERY closely at the paper brown shirt guy is holding up in panel 2.

>> No.1917516
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>tfw just getting into Doom in 2014
>tfw terrible at figuring out secrets

>> No.1917523

>>1917516
That one in particular is a bit luck based to figure out.

>> No.1917524
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>>1917516
Protip how to find secrets:
>mappers usually use different textures that stand out, so the players presses use or shoots against this wall
>hidden switches, hard to see, find them
>blazkowicz method: press on everything
>cheater: look at automap, hidden doors have a different color from impassable walls

>> No.1917526

>>1917516

Welcome to the crew. Don't be a dick, kick back, enjoy your stay.
Keep an eye out for mismatched textures, hard-to-see switches, oddly-placed lights/torches. And if all else fails, drop your pants and hump the fuck out of everything.

>> No.1917528

>>1917524
>press
*press the "use" button

>> No.1917540

>>1917516
Don't worry man, I still new find secrets today.

>> No.1917541

>>1917516
That in particular its a bit bullshit.

It involves hitting instead of using the use button, the location in which you do this stands out and makes sense if you look at the map

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>>1916091
>mobile doom
I hate myself for bringing that in here in the first place.

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>>1916113
This was my reaction the first time I saw the panel
The comic is great, but why mention idiotic tripfags

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1917582

Based Essel.
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/70020-some-good-wads-to-build-up/

>> No.1917583 [DELETED] 

>>1917570
Because people will keep denying sucking his dick on daily basis and with the aid of this comic, posterity will know which sides to pick.

>> No.1917593

>>1917280
the point was to show the framedrop is caused by looking to the city

>> No.1917605

>>1917524
>cheater: look at automap, hidden doors have a different color from impassable walls
This only happens in a poorly-done wad. Mappers can mark a door to look like an impassable wall on the automap.

>>1917541
Imo you'll end up shooting the wall anyway when fighting the imps.

>> No.1917610

>>1917524
>>1917605
Yeah I'm only playing the original game right now, no mods, so the walls look the same on the map.

>you'll end up shooting the wall anyway when fighting the imps.
>implying I miss

>> No.1917612

>shooting the wall
so how does this work.

>> No.1917613

>>1917610
The section where the secret is located still stands out. You can also punch it

>> No.1917621

>>1917612
>aim at wall
>"fuck this"
>stand in front of the wall
>other monsters shoot at the wall, so you dont waste ammo

>> No.1917623

I JUST GOT TO THE LAST TIER IN QUAKE SP
HOW DO I BEAT THIS XAERO FAGGOT OP PIECE OF SHIT

>> No.1917631

>>1917621
So a shootable wall gets struck with an attack and it opens?

>> No.1917637

>>1917631
Yep.

>> No.1917638

>>1917516

To be honest looking for secrets is one of my least favorite things doom

I sometimes idclev to secret levels if I finish all 30 levels in wad because I can't be bothered to go through wad again looking for them. Shameful I guess, but eh...

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>>1917550
I like the idea of playing Doom on my phone, but apparently smartphones must be fucking pieces of shit or something, because even a Boom port runs at a fucking crawl (and it was also a buggy barrel of dogturds).

Touchscreens suck a million dicks per hour too, fucking impossible to play Doom with that, you'd need a gamepad attachment, something that attaches through the charger port, giving you two D-pads, four buttons on each side, select and start, as well as shoulder buttons.

So I guess my only portable option at this moment is still GBA Doom, sure, it's a butchered port, but it actually runs properly, that's more than what I can say about running it on a phone.

>> No.1917646

>>1917642
>something that attaches through the charger port
get a load of this guy

>> No.1917649

>>1917516
There are walls that will only open if struck with an attack
(shooting, etc)

>> No.1917651

>>1917642
>what is bluetooth

>> No.1917652

>>1917516
I feel ya man. While I've been playing Doom since I was eleven, I'm just now discovering the modding community.

>> No.1917668

>>1917524
>mappers usually use different textures that stand out, so the players presses use or shoots against this wall

It's also sometimes just aligned differently or lit differently. Basically, hump any walls that look like they're asking for it.

>> No.1917678

>>1917642
You can get a wireless controller for like 20 bucks now. I don't know if any of the mobile Doom ports work with them though.

>> No.1917683
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What's a cool setting for a map that has rarely been done?

>> No.1917685

playing Doom with a controller sounds terrible

>> No.1917689

>>1917683
technoslime

>> No.1917690

>>1917685
Its not really that different from playing it with a keyboard like in the old days honestly

>> No.1917691

>>1917623

That's not funny.

>> No.1917697

>>1917524
>cheater: look at automap, hidden doors have a different color from impassable walls
i completely disagree it's cheating if a secret shows up on the automap. it's only cheating if you use the map cheat code.

>> No.1917703

>>1917621

>press 1
>attack the wall

Your fist doewn't require ammo....

>> No.1917709

>>1917683
Snow Base
FleshTech

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>>1916091
>ZDaemon screenshot
looks normal to me

>> No.1917721

>>1917638
the more maps you play the more adept you will become at finding secrets. i've played thousands of maps and i rarely miss secrets now. there's only so many different ways they're hidden. this is doubly so if you are familiar with other work by the author of the map you're playing and already know how they like to hide secrets. for example in an alexander eternal map, if you see a freestanding switch in front of a wall, check the back of it, it's almost certainly pressable too. or check all corners because he likes to inset shootable switches in small tunnels in out-of-sight places.

>> No.1917734

>>1917719

Where we're going, we won't need eyes.

>> No.1917736

>>1917721
>i've played thousands of maps
correction: it might not quite be multiple thousands. but i'm certain i'm into four figures by now.

>> No.1917742

>>1917719
myeyesdoom.jpg

>> No.1917752

>>1917582

ehh, doomworld being doomworld to me

not that the brutalkiddie was asking for it

>> No.1917762

>>1917638
The secret exit is always on Map15.

>> No.1917769

>>1917646
I'm obviously not an expert, in fact, you should tell me why I'm a retarded faggot.

>>1917651
A power-sucking piece of shit?

>>1917678
>You can get a wireless controller for like 20 bucks now.
Wireless? Why the fuck would I want a separate controller? That makes all of it much less portable and handheld.
I'm talking about something that mounts onto the phone itself, basically turning the assembly into a handheld, the phone itself acting as the screen.

>> No.1917776

>>1917623
Oh, nvm, beat him. That wasn't that hard when I got used to his rails.
Time for CPMA I guess.
>>1917685
Well there is Doom64 but it plays a lot better with kb + m.
>>1917690
How many of you guys used the mouse when you first played? I know I did.

>> No.1917778

>>1917709
>Snow Base
Grayscale. The entirety of it.
>>1917752
>>1917769
>I'm obviously not an expert, in fact, you should tell me why I'm a retarded faggot.
A charging port could only accept electrical signals that routes to power.
There is no way for an android device to listen for input via buttons through the charging port.

>I'm talking about something that mounts onto the phone itself, basically turning the assembly into a handheld, the phone itself acting as the screen.
You could just buy a phone with a hardware keyboard. I used to emulate all the time on my old one.

>> No.1917781

>>1917778
Didn't mean to quote >>1917752

>> No.1917796

>>1917524
>blazkowicz method: press on everything

This is what I usually do.

>> No.1917801

>>1917778
By Snow Base I meant a base set in a snowy, cold area. We never seem to get maps that go full on Mountains of Madness/The Thing(from Another World)

>> No.1917802

>>1917796
within reason. there's no point pressing absolutely everything; use the automap to rule out impossible or unlikely locations for secrets first.

>> No.1917804

>>1917801
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=13842
scientist2 has some snow bases in it as i recall, but it's vanilla (or at least vanila+dehacked)
i don't know how much snow you are looking for

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>>1917804
very convincing floor-over-floor effect

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>>1917816
this is pretty cute too

>> No.1917827

>>1917193

what a bunch of boneheads

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>>1917820

>> No.1917836

>>1916869
Incredible how well it work. But I wish they used Build engine instead.

>> No.1917837

>>1917193
As much as I like Serious Sam, during my playthroughs of FEHD and SEHD, I literally had to turn the difficulty down from Normal to Easy. There were times where both games would just throw SO MANY ENEMIES at you, it was fucking ridiculous. Quicksaving didn't even help. That's my only gripe with both of those games. Haven't played SS2 yet.

>> No.1917838

>>1917194
Ah, right on. I've actually seen all of those except the spoiler. You have good taste, though!

>> No.1917840

>>1917837

I prefer the console version because they implemented a lives system that seemed to mesh well with Serious Sam.

>> No.1917842 [DELETED] 

>>1917837
>>1917840
suddenly, casuals.

>> No.1917846

>>1917842
If I were casual filth, I would've played on tourist.

>> No.1917850

>>1917846
That's not really better than easy.

>> No.1917852

>>1917850
I couldn't progress any further on Normal, so it seemed like the rational thing to do.

>> No.1917853

>>1917842

sorry pal. Serious Sam likes to have extremely unexpected moments with spawning several enemies inside your ass. earning a few lives to compensate for that felt better than mashing quicksave and quickload.

and really that's using savestates, that's just as, if not more casual.

>> No.1917863

>>1917837
I kinda felt the same way. I played SS3BFE, and fighting the fuck hueg waves of enemies was pretty fun at first, but as I progressed it became so fucking boring because the enemies aren't really anymore advanced than the waves of aliens in Galaga. In some levels the waves would never end, and it just felt like they were artificially lengthening the levels.

>> No.1917886

>>1917863
I give up on all serious sam games at some point. They throw around this whole thing about being just like the old FPS games, but it's not. You just move from arena to arena blasting away at tedious hordes of bullshit, no real level design tailored for exploration. Only way I play them is if some friends of mine invite me for some co-op.

>> No.1917895 [DELETED] 

>>1917837

I was 11 when the HD were realeased, I finished SE in an afternoon in hard....then many times in serious....

>> No.1917896

>>1917837
Why are you playing Serious Sam if you don't want tons of enemies thrown at you

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>>1917895
>I was 11 when the HD were released
>11 in 2009
>He's 14 now
UNDERAGE

>> No.1917914

>>1917778
>hardware keyboard
Unless that keyboard is close the size of a regular computer keyboard, playing vidya on that isn't going to be too fun.
A gamepad attachment would be much more space efficient and easier to play with.

>> No.1917924

>>1917896
I don't mind that aspect too much, but there was one time in both FE and SE where there was a never-ending barrage of enemies getting spawned and you had to go through it to reach an area where the door would close, and even then you'd still have to kill the clever bastards that made it past the door. Those are the two parts where I turned down the difficulty in both games.

>> No.1918037

>>1917924
In the second encounter there were serious bombs at least.

But in that one, it kinda bothered me the amount of "gimmick rooms" that were actually hard.

I mean, in regular rooms that are challenging I can come up with strategies or switch between weapons to turn things into my favour. But in the bouncy floor room, for example, it boils down to luck and I can't even aim because everybody is flying all over the fucking place.

Basically, I have to quicksave whenever things are going well midfight. I get it is fun for coop or such, but they should tone down how they scale with harder diffuculties.

I am playing on hard and whenever they show up I get stuck on them

>> No.1918072

http://puu.sh/bodoE.webm
Fractal Doom is fun

>> No.1918094 [DELETED] 

>>1917904

Did you really have to report him? That's low, mang.

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>>1918094
>Not reporting underage kiddos

>> No.1918113 [DELETED] 

>>1918094
>low

It's right there in the rules, dude.

>> No.1918117

So after playing Demonsteele with those new Cultists that replace Arachnotrons I have to say

These make for fantastic enemies.
Sometimes they jump and dash into pitfalls to make them irrelevant but for the most part they are very fun to fight.

>> No.1918126 [DELETED] 

>>1918113
>>1918106

But /vr/ is already becoming a slow board, we need all the new members we can get. Plus it's sfw, I don't understand why sfw boards still have to be 18+. I'm nineteen just in case I'm raising suspicions.

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>>1918126
>tfw been here for months
>turned eighteen twelve days ago

Feels good mang

>> No.1918128 [DELETED] 

>>1918126
Because people still like to derail with 18+ material.

>> No.1918129 [DELETED] 

>>1918126
>I don't understand why sfw boards still have to be 18+
Children have ruined this site

>> No.1918130 [DELETED] 

>>1918126

It's not just a matter of /vr/ being a SFW board, it's a matter of national law. Children should not be on places where there is porn, and because 4chan has porn on it, underage people are not allowed here.

Is it a law not everyone agrees with? Yes, and you can argue 'till you're blue in the face as to why they should totally buck this law and let people in.
Is it a law people circumvent completely? Yes, people can simply...not tell their age, and nobody will ever be the wiser.
But it's still a law.

>> No.1918132 [DELETED] 

>>1918129
So have 'adults'. Your point?

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>>1918117
Have you played dead simple with it yet though?

>> No.1918141

>retarded meta discussion

SFW boards exist so that every fucking board on 4chan doesn't turn into a porn dump. If you want an example of a good board that allows porn being overrun with the stuff, look at /gif/. There used to be a lot more variety of what was posted in that board (talking pre-/wsg/ days) than porn, but it got overrun with retards who couldn't go more than an hour without masturbating.

That's it. Now get back to yelling dumb shit about Revenants.

>> No.1918145

>>1918140
Yes.
This is why I think they are fantastic.

I've also played Hell Revealed's Arachnophobia and whatever Alien Vendetta's equivalent of Dead Simple is called.

Seriously some fun 10/10 enemies right up in here.

>> No.1918147 [DELETED] 

>>1918141

You seem upset.

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>>1918141

>> No.1918164

>>1918145
>>1918140
>huh guess I better check these guys out
>update to new build
>go to Dead Simple
Bloody hell these enemies are so cool. They're dynamic, they're agile, and they're very dangerous without being unfair.
It's like I'm fighting fucking demon ninja priests.

>> No.1918187 [DELETED] 

Remember:
Report and ignore.

>> No.1918205 [DELETED] 

>>1918126
>is already becoming

/vr/ is and has always been since March 18th 2013 a goddamn slow board, way to show how new you are

>we need all the new members we can get

you speak as if moot just announced he was going to delete slow boards just minutes ago. plus, /vr/ is the fastest of the boards that were implemented in the above date

>I'm nineteen just in case I'm raising suspicions.

why should we know how old are you? that's nonsense

>> No.1918212 [DELETED] 

>>1918127

>TFW 26 and still lurking and posting here

I should probably pick up other hobbies but I love this place and modding doom

>> No.1918214

VIDEO GAMES

>> No.1918219 [DELETED] 

Careful, guys, if we keep talking about that one subject that one backseat driving nerd on the internet doesn't approve of, he might start posting gay porn again!

>> No.1918224

>>1918214

Speaking of video games. Do you think the demons of doom play vidya? Wonder what they'd play

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>>1918219
I wouldn't mind that

>> No.1918226

>>1918224
Brutal Doom

>> No.1918229

>>1918224
Bayonetta

>> No.1918230 [DELETED] 

>>1918212
Eh. Doom and jerkin' it are all I do these days. I should try these at the same time.

>> No.1918231

>>1918226

Truly this is hell.

What if the demons are the shitposters

>> No.1918242

>>1918230
You... DO realize we got H-DOOM, right?

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>>1918224
Someone needs to make a proper mod where you are the demons.
You'd play as John "The Zombie" Stalvern, and you'd run around killing Humans, Human Sergeants, Human Commandos, Human Marines(Demons), Scientists(Imps), Mechs(Baron,Knight, Cybie, Arachnotron, Mastermind, Mancubus, Revenant, Archvile), Helicopters(Caco, Pain Elemental, Pain copter shoots drones), and, of course, Doomguy(Icon of Sin).
I'd play it.

>> No.1918278

>>1918269
Get started.

>> No.1918280

>>1918278
I'm shit at modding though, man.

>> No.1918281

>>1918280
Everyone is starting off.

>> No.1918285

>>1918269
Guns are the easy one to replace.

I just might start on this myself.

>> No.1918287

>>1918281
Is it okay if I steal literally everything from Realm667?

>> No.1918295

So what's the latest fashion or FotM of "/vr/oom troopers" lately? DoomRL+DoomRPG? MSX+ new B2SX leak? Demonsteele? GMOTA? Hdoom? Brutal Doom?

>> No.1918297

>>1918295
BTSX2

>> No.1918298

tfw CyberRunner will never be finished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h0IpjnByfs

>> No.1918316

NEW THREAD:
>>1918307
>>1918307
>>1918307
>>1918307

>> No.1918318

>>1918269
Does it HAVE to be a Zombie?

>> No.1918418

>>1918287
I have nothing to do with those guys. I don't care how you do it.

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>>1918141
>implying 4chan doesn't love it's porn
Hey, guys, I have an idea for agitation tan, you know how some say the revenant wears red shorts? How about skele-tan wears red spats?

>> No.1918605

>>1918515

Anon that's lewd

>> No.1918671

>>1918295
Accessories to Murder + BTSXep2.
It's pretty alright so far. I think I liked MSX more tho.

>> No.1918719

>>1917904

>2009 to 2014 = 3 years

:^)

>> No.1918743

>>1918719

5

11+5=16

still underage

#rekt

>> No.1919862

>>1914343
I just downloaded Time of Death and I'm stuck on the first level. I saw that the wad came with some demos but I don't know how to open them. I tried zdoom and gzdoom but neither of them will open the demos. Wat do?

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