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1911574 No.1911574[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Did this really qualify as a video game?

>> No.1911668

I don't see "video game" anywhere in that ad.

>> No.1911672

I remember ads for this in local magazines but the actual 'thing' wasn't sold in my country.

>> No.1911675

You know it's bad when your six year old brain says "that looks like like it wouldn't be fun".

>> No.1911679

>>1911574
I had one my dad bought it for me for Christmas, the villain one that was black. The TV show you interacted with was on Saturday mornings. I got to play it one time on live TV and then they took it off the air and expected you to buy the video cassettes but we didn't have a VCR. He took it back and was pretty pissed about it.

It was pretty cool that one time I played it, but maybe just memorable for the experience as a whole. It's a lot like Action Maxx, which I still have.

>> No.1911907

>>1911668

You don't think this is a light gun game?

>> No.1911910
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1911910

It's the same as any modern video game, so why not?

>> No.1911934
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>>1911574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoG5U-eSmeA
Dunno. Why not?

>> No.1911936 [DELETED] 

>>1911910
Look at this faggot who only plays shitty games! Look at him and laugh!

>> No.1912669

>>1911936
The "Point him and laugh" bait is really old and it just shows how ignorant is the one who uses it, at least try to explain yourself or meybe just stop posting.

>> No.1912768

>>1912669

Its about as shitty as that dumb image.

>> No.1912862

>>1911574
I guess so. It's a game that uses video. Being shit doesn't change that.

>> No.1912927

>>1911679
My dad bought me the white one in the ad for Christmas, along with 1 or 2 of the VHS tapes. I was only 5 or so at the time, but I remember it being really fun. My neighbor across the street at the time ended up getting the black one and we had a blast playing it together.

>> No.1912964

>>1912768
I kind of agree. The one on the left shows every detail of the level, while the one on the right just shows the flow in the most bare-bones way. Not a good representation. Not to mention, not all FPS today are like that.

>> No.1912986

>>1911934
How the fuck does that work? You play the VHS, hold the "gun" and that's it?

>> No.1913027

>>1912986
The video uses interlacing to flash patterns that the toys read as POINTS or DAMAGE. On the Captain Power videos, flashing yellow was damage, and pink was a target. Both of my biodread ships are dead and don't power on, and they're made with ten billion screws, so I haven't been able to take either one apart yet.

>> No.1915824

>figure, jet, and videotapes sold separately
>batteries not includec

>> No.1915837

>>1913027
Still have yours? I believe I still have the first tape but I do have the main ship but missing the pilot, chair, and side guns.

>> No.1917040

I have three of these VHS machines
Two Action maxes (its so bad I got two), interesting thing is (ok not really) one came with a VHS the other came with a DVD leading me to believe it got a re-release in the early 2000s.
Also somebody has figured out how to make Homebrew for it
A Sega Tyco Video driver, with out the little car
Video challenger, the gun looks awesome and makes some cool sounds, cant be arsed to play it

>> No.1917056

>>1917040
>Video challenger, the gun looks awesome and makes some cool sounds, cant be arsed to play it

Would it work if you tried it with the Youtube video posted above?

>> No.1917282

>>1917056
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoG5U-eSmeA
Just tried
Nope, LCD screen and all, maybe on a CRT it might.

Maybe if I rig up my Raspberry Pi to one of my CRTs and play it on that, but right now its to much hassle as its very dusty.

For the Action max there is a torrent about for all the tapes

>> No.1917380

>>1911574

I guess it would be similar to some of the really early arcade lightgun games.

I used to have one these as a kid. I watched one of them on youtube recently and I thought the animation for the flight sequences was pretty good and still holds up today.

>> No.1917436

>>1912768
>>1912964
>>>/v/

>> No.1917502

cool

>> No.1919031
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1919031

I've always wanted to try some of these. Should be pretty good material for AVGN video or something.

>> No.1919034
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1919034

>is it a video?
>is it a game?

Same thing could be asked about modern games.

>> No.1919040

>>1919031
He already did one of those "James and Mike play" videos with the ActionMax.

>> No.1919062
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>> No.1919137

i always wondered why they didnt just make an attachment for the standard VCR that wouldve been on-par with NES in computing power, and then just used VHS tapes as a data cartridge

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>> No.1919170

>>1919137
but how would that work vhs tapes are just tapes how is a game going to work from tape

>> No.1919178
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>>1919170

seemed to work fine for the C64

>> No.1919552

>>1919178
Audio only it would work, you can load a Spectrum game off anything that has audio play back, even that guy from Police Academy if he could make the noise for long enough.
Ok maybe not

Theres an idea on my to do list.
Play an audio from a PS4 into a Spectrum

>> No.1919564

>>1919062
Full nostalgia blast
I had Hugo's pajamas back in the day

>> No.1919631

>>1915837
I have all three TMS-animated Captain Power tapes, and two Biodread Phantom Strikers. One is missing the seat, the other is missing a wing pylon/canard.

>>1919137
Data corruption, read speed, seeking, et cetera.

>> No.1919649

>>1919137
It would need a lot of RAM to cache, otherwise loading times would be far worse than on the NES.

>> No.1919664

>>1919170
I use to store data on MiniDV tape. Commodore and Atari both had cassette readers and games for them on tape. I don't see why you couldn't store data on VHS. The real deal killer is the time it takes to seek to file and the only way to know where data is stored is by reading a table of contents. You would have to put multiple copies of data and TOC everywhere and load times would still be dreadfully slow. This is the reason why nobody uses tape for anything but backup.

>> No.1919795

>>1919178
>Start game load.
>Go have lunch.
>Game almost done loading.

>> No.1919842

>>1919795
Then "Tape error"

>> No.1919845

>>1919552
>you can load a Spectrum game off anything that has audio play back, even that guy from Police Academy

oh man, i feel like this has to be done now

>> No.1919884

>>1911574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6u1MAB2YnE

>> No.1920212
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>>1919884
>>1911574
that show was my favourit in the late 80s, watching it on satelite, on sky or super channel

>> No.1921146

>>1911574
This was the show that inspired Blood Dragon right?

>> No.1921867

>>1919649
And the only way to reduce loading times besides add a fuckton of RAM would be to make each game 100% linear, with absolutely no skipping from one section of the tape to another.

>> No.1921876
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>>1919552
What about a stereo videotape, where one audio cable would go into the TV and the other would feed data to the game console?

>> No.1922201

>>1921876
Why not just put the data in the VBI like you're supposed to?

>> No.1922594
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>>1921876
that jewbot

<3

I wish I still had mine.

>> No.1922962

>>1921876
I think this has been done, or I herd it has been

>> No.1923116

>>1911574
I had the entire set of these when I was a kid. They were actually pretty fun, but I never considered them to be a video game. They were more fun to shoot at each other with than anything else. Also seeing how far your faggot pilot would fly out of the cockpit when you lost was pretty funny.

>> No.1924954
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1924954

Games are actually rather well defined.

It's a series of options with a fairly predictable outcomes based on the option chosen and capability to see the option through.

i.e. "Shoot this fucker in the face enough, he will die"
Sometime variables are missing, sometimes completing the tasks are really hard, but in the end as long as it has either:

A
>A Fail State and a Win state

or B
>Progression is a challenge

all while C
>Results are not entirely random

Then it is a game
so (A+B)C=x, if is 1 or 2, then it's a game.

John Von Neumann was very influential in modern Game Theory.
>also designed the fundamental computer architecture that makes all the games we know in love come to be

>Also made nukes kill a lot more people better
>Such is life in Los Alamos.