/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1893357]

replaying this and it reminds me how much i love it.

it gets flak, and i get that it's not for everyone, so with that out the way can we have a decent FF7 thread? i'm currently grinding to beat Ruby Weapon because i really, really can't be bothered with racing and breeding a Gold Chocobo. the Steam release isn't as bad as i'd heard.

[Anonymous No.1893363]

I also just started it again. Just got to Temple of the Ancients. It's amazing how much it picks up around Cosmo Canyon

[Anonymous No.1893369]

FF7 probably has the best pacing of all the PS1 Final Fantasies. Its just solid all around. Not super slow like FF9, and not huge ups and downs like FF8

[Anonymous No.1893373]

The steam release got some patching done (Audio upgrade at least, from the shitty midi music files of the original pc port-> to the psx audio files) so that's probably why it's better than what you'd heard.

[Anonymous No.1893378]

>>1893369
Once you actually get out of Midgar, it does. Honestly, up until that point, you really feel like you're spinning your wheels.

The Don segment doesn't help that feeling either (even if it IS a funny section of the game).

[Anonymous No.1893379]

I never understood the plot of disc 2.

Shinra's like, "Hey, there's this big meteor coming to destroy the world! Hey, I know, I'll bet that if we took these things called huge materia, we could use them to destroy the meteor and save the world!" and Cloud and co are just like "Man, Shinra wants to save the world? Fuck that. We'd better get all the huge materia then sit on our asses not having any plan until some creepy floating dude says something cryptic."

And seriously, the huge materia just sits there for the rest of the game, doing nothing from a story perspective.

Idiots.

[Anonymous No.1893396]

>>1893363
>Temple of the Ancients.
City of the Ancients coming up next then, huh. I absolutely adore the atmosphere in that city.

[Anonymous No.1893401]

>>1893378
I kinda don't understand why most people dislike Midgar that much. I really love it. It's an amazing setting with a dense atmosphere and some really really lovely art.

[Anonymous No.1893414]

>>1893401
if someone isn't taken by Midgar's charm then it's just a back-and-forth speed bump before the game properly begins.

[Anonymous No.1893437]

>>1893414
Yeah but isn't the game proper just another back and forth? As far as I understand, most feel Midgar is too restrictive - but honestly, the world map isn't really all that much better. No FF gives you more than a fake feeling of freedom on the world map anyway.

[Anonymous No.1893446]

>>1893379
Hmm.. I wonder what the reasoning was..
Maybe the Materia would have destroyed the world or something along with the metoer.

[Anonymous No.1893456]

>>1893357
>can't be bothered with racing and breeding a Gold Chocobo
You can't be bothered with Chocobo breeding? That was one of the most fun parts of the game!

[Anonymous No.1893457]

>>1893456
It suuuuucked.

[Anonymous No.1893479]

>>1893456
i've done it before and i'll do it again, but this run just isn't the time.

[Anonymous No.1893483]

>>1893457
Your FACE sucks!

...no. No, I didn't mean that anon. Clearly tempers run high in the fast paced world of Chocobo Ranching.

[Anonymous No.1893490]

>>1893483
I-It's, it's okay, I realize my words hurt you and my fellow FF7 aficionados, and I apologize for my uncalled for and rude behavior.

[Anonymous No.1893514]

>>1893357
>it gets flak

Yeah only really because it's very popular.

[Anonymous No.1893549]

>>1893357
I started my third playthrough of FF7 recently and thought it there must be something wrong with me if we now have the PS4/Bone, all these huge leaps in hardware and massive open worlds with cutscene and gameplay blending seemlessly with big AAA budgets, FF7 is still blows me away more than any mainstream AA game on modern hardware.

[Anonymous No.1893551]

>>1893549
>seamlessly triggered FMV events
that shit was the future in 1997 and honestly i think it still is

[Anonymous No.1893556]

>>1893490
>>1893483

FF7 fans confirmed for most-human of all FF fans.
>unlike those greasy troglodytes of the FF10+ fandoms

[Anonymous No.1893558]

>>1893556
Is FFX worth playing? I've been considering picking up the X/X-2 remaster for PS3 but never played FFX because I was always turned off by Tidus.

AH-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA

[Anonymous No.1893560]

>>1893558
if you can get past the boring puzzles, sure.

[Anonymous No.1893563]

>>1893558
Kind of...

It is slow as fuck, everything is unskippable, and it is so linear. But the story is legitimately good (it takes a really long time to get started, but when it does, its got some awesome twists. Like if 8 were actually good.) The battle system is pretty fun and the music is really good, as is the setting.

I absolutely can't replay it though. I got like 8 hours into the Vita HD version and just gave up. I remembered why I liked it when it came out, but it just doesn't stand up to the test of time like 7 (or the 3 SNES games).

[Anonymous No.1893568]

>>1893558
I honestly think that X is one of the better ones. It's linear, but as "linear" as the older games in the series up until you get the airship. The maps being mostly corridors is what makes it feel more linear than it actually is, I think. Characters are love them or hate them but everything else is worth playing for. The sphere grid and battle system are pretty fun too, even moreso in X-2.

>bashing the intentionally bad laugh scene
I get angry every time.

[Anonymous No.1893569]

>>1893514
>Yeah only really because it's very popular.

and it has glaring issues in terms of gameplay character and plot

[Anonymous No.1893578]

>>1893558
I actually think it's the best game in the series overall. Nearly everyone hates Tidus at first, but he ends up being a pretty decent protagonist.

[Anonymous No.1893582]

>>1893578
Too bad there's no undub floating around.

[Anonymous No.1893703]

Yeah, the game only gets flak because it's popular, really. Kinda lile how people love to hate PewDiePie and Epic Meal Time just because they're popular.

[Anonymous No.1893932]

>>1893401
This is the first thread I've seen where people have expressed distaste for Midgar. In fact, I thought most people felt the game got worse after Midgar's closing.

[Anonymous No.1893937]

>>1893932
Probably because there seems to be 0% shitposters in this thread.

>FFVII SUX AFTER YOU LEAVE MIDGAR
>OVERATED GARBITCH

[Anonymous No.1893948]

>>1893568
>spoiler
Agreed.

>>1893582
If it makes you feel any better Tidus' moon voice isn't much better.

[Anonymous No.1893965]

>>1893578
Well, FFIX is technically the best overall FF, because they did ONLY what they knew would absolutely work, took no chances on new gameplay concepts and spent a large portion of budget on polishing everything instead.

The issues start up when you consider how fucking slow the battle system is and the fact that the game lacks any kind of imagination gameplay wise. It's effectively a 32bit remake of FF4 in a lot of ways. And when you compare that to how inventive FFVI, FFVII and FFVIII were before it, FFIX starts to look dull.

That, and a lot of us simply do not like the plot or give any fucks about it. Once again, FFVI, VII and even VIII all had plots and characters that drew the player in to some extent and were relatable. Then FFIX was a seemingly generic medieval fantasy plot that devolved into some kind of psychotic "take over the world with clones" plot with a largely unlikeable cast and it did next to nothing to draw you in or be relatable at all. It's just not on par with what came before it in these terms.

Still a solid 8/10 game, but it could have been so much more with a little personality and flare. Honestly, I feel the same way about FFXII and FFXV is looking to be more of the same. Good amount of well polished content and gameplay with no personality or anything redeeming to draw you back in mixed with bland actual gameplay.

Then you have the likes of FFX and FFXIII, witch are literally ALL personality and flare at the expense of gameplay and other important elements, but that's another topic for another board. My point is that Squaresoft needs to work on balancing those things out. Literally every FF since VIII has either been too far in one direction or the other.

[Anonymous No.1893968]

Favorite moments?

[Anonymous No.1893972]

>>1893968
Arriving at the golden saucer for the first time.
I was so fucking happy.

No other RPG has top that feel fo excitement for me.

[Anonymous No.1893976]

>>1893401
I really like Midgar, mostly because the only place that really sells the "cyberpukyness" of FF7's universe whereas most of the other towns and locations are pretty generic. I mean there's room for deliberate antitheses to Midgar like Cosmo Canyon, but a place like Kalm could fit in any Final Fantasy and you wouldn't know the difference.

I also just the parts of the game where Shinra are the main antagonists like Midgar and the Huge Materia segment.

[Anonymous No.1893989]

>>1893968
This scene.

The perfect synchronization of music and visuals, and all that channeled emotion... Still gives me chills to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-cbe2gDzCk&feature=player_detailpage#t=869

[Anonymous No.1893992]

>>1893989
>those character models

They get harder to justify every year.

[Anonymous No.1893994]

>>1893968
This scene (starting at about 14:30).

The perfect synchronization of music and visuals, and all that channeled emotion... Still gives me chills to this day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-cbe2gDzCk&feature=player_detailpage#t=873

[Anonymous No.1894000]

[Anonymous No.1894005]

I just recently starting playing FF3 and FF7 steam releases never having played either before. Of course I played the NES and SNES FF's as a kid but when FF7 on the PS rolled out it just didn't interest me but I remember watching other older kids play it and a lot of hype and strat guides in stores, etc. Right now I'm about half-way through FF3 and just started FF7, the intro phase I guess. Anything I should know before I dive in? Hints, tricks, battle tactics? Or is it just like any other rpg just grind until I win? Legitimate question, not trying to start shit.

[Anonymous No.1894007]

>>1894005
>playing PC versions of FF

Hope you at least have the Mp3 files installed and not the midi shit they originally gave with it.

[Anonymous No.1894009]

>>1894005
I don't know if they fixed this in the steam release, but tapping run when you get back attacked will reset you so that you are facing forward

[Anonymous No.1894024]

>>1893968
I still have no idea what happened there or in the other room.

[Anonymous No.1894034]

>>1894000

[Anonymous No.1894056]

>>1894009
I will try that as soon as I am and report back. As for the music I honestly just started FF7 and haven't had a chance to notice. The steam versions do seem to be updated at least, and I can verify FF3 everything is in .ogg format as far as music goes. There is a weird bug with changing resolutions though, sometimes it will do fullscreen properly other times everything will be out of proportion and only able to be played in window mode. It seems entirely random.

[Anonymous No.1894057]

>>1893379
I never really understood the in-character justification for wanting to save the Huge Materia, either.

The Huge Materia are obviously supposed to be the four crystals though, which is kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.1894074]

>>1893379
>>1894057
I think the idea is the existence of the huge materia is somewhat integral to the health of the planet (materia is basically crystalized planet goo made out of people souls after all and Shinra draining it all is what's killing it) and Shinra using it to blow up the asteroid is just a short-sighted plan that isn't guaranteed to work anyway (and proven not to work if you screw up)

Plus you get Bahamut NEO and the master materia from them to use against Sephiroth

[Anonymous No.1894079]

>>1894074
Also don't think there's anything stopping Sephiroth from just summoning another meteor, they need to get him not the meteor

[Anonymous No.1894082]

>>1894007
I looked into the FF7 folder and they have seemed to update the music themselves into ogg format but I still see four midi files at about 1mb a piece so I won't be sure until I play or read the changelog and see if they say anything about it.

[Anonymous No.1894085]

>>1894082
If it's the steam version of 7 it has the original music

[Anonymous No.1894086]

>>1894085
When steam first released it they gave only midi files.

[Anonymous No.1894102]

>grinding AP somewhere in the forgotten city
>because it was the best place I had found for that up to that point that didn't involve using elixirs
>been grinding all day
>haven't saved
>a monster steals Venus Gospel and flees

[Anonymous No.1894112]

>>1894102
toplel

I fucking love thief monsters.

[Anonymous No.1894234]

>>1894005

Take the stairs

[Anonymous No.1894320]

>>1893357
Remember to start the fight with only 1 character alive m8.

>>1893379
>>1893446
>>1894057
There is a conversation about this, when they basically say "look, the huge materia won't destroy the meteor, and is 2good to be lost forever, let's get 'em".

>>1893932
>>1893937
This. Although I've seen that mostly on /v/ so I take it as one of /v/'s epik replies when they want to be the special snowflake.

>>1894005
I don't get why people ask that when they have just started. Get used to the game first, there is a lot to be found by yourself.

>>1894009
It still works. Why'd they fix that, though?. It'd be like fixing the bug to duplicate items.

>>1893968
pic related

[Anonymous No.1894329]

The Huge Materia thing I think is sort of like the Shinra pretending to do something about Meteor to keep the public under control even though they know it won't work.

That's the one thing I do kind of like about Disk 2. The Shinra strut around in Disk 1 like they own the world and there's nothing they can't do. But when confronted with Meteor that arrogant lot immediately find themselves out of their depth, which has a nice poetic irony to it.

[Anonymous No.1894335]

>>1894329

The (fortunately) failed televised executions of Barret and Tifa were also in line with that plan to keep the public on their side.

[Anonymous No.1895101]

>>1893357
you don't even have to race once to breed a gold chocobo in a hour or so:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Cj-XwZVCI

[Anonymous No.1895249]

>>1893994
Absolute trash compared to an actual emotional sequence like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WLyjRex0ac

I respect your nostalgia, but if that video effects you more than the Suikoden 2 one, you have mental defects.

[Anonymous No.1895420]

>>1895249
>Making a competition out of emotional moments from teen drama stories

Get a load of this loser

[Anonymous No.1895429]

>>1895420
no u

[Anonymous No.1895446]

>>1893569
>and it has glaring issues in terms of gameplay character and plot

Sure okay fair point. The thing is that because it's popular people tend to point out said flaws far more then a game that isn't as popular. In fact some games get so much of a pass simply because they are perceived as underrated whether it's true or not. I never see anyone say anything bad about MM. OOT get's a ton of crap though simply because of it's popularity. Never seen even one person say the things wrong about MM though. Nope not a single one. Nor ALTTP for that matter.

[Anonymous No.1895469]

This thread makes me happy

[Anonymous No.1895484]

It's funny. The heaps of praise this game got from people simply because it was their first exposure to JRPGs has turned into heaps of backlash simply because it is too well liked. FF7 is one game that will never, ever be judged fairly and without prejudice.

[Anonymous No.1895485]

>>1893968
Too many!

The first meeting with Tifa in the bar, it's what cemented my love for Midgar. Cloud crashing through the church roof. The moment you enter the world map for the first time and they play the beautiful world map theme with its somber moments. Tifa noticing discrepancies in Cloud's narration/reminiscence but not really bringing them up. Cloud's mako-induced madness. The first time you spot the City of the Ancients on the world map, from up on the cliff. And and and.

[Anonymous No.1895489]

I don't know how many times I gotta ask these in these threads, but does anyone have any ideas for an interesting replay that makes the game challenging without stripping it of features/without making it become tedious?

[Anonymous No.1895494]

>>1893373
>from the shitty midi music files of the original pc port -> to the shitty midi files of the ps1 port
Fixed for clarity.

[Anonymous No.1895496]

>>1895489
Roleplay a thief.
A thief on a mission to steal an item from every monster/person on the planet.

[Anonymous No.1895498]

>>1895249
Go back to /v/

[Anonymous No.1895501]

>>1895496
Ehhh... I've already done that fine on perfectionist playthroughs before. How is that supposed to make it an interesting challenge?

[Anonymous No.1895502]

>>1893968

[Anonymous No.1895503]

>>1895501
Your the baby that doesnt want to restrict himself because "it will be tedious" what else are we supposed to offer you?

[Anonymous No.1895506]

>>1895503
I'm fine with restrictions, I just don't want so many that they turn it into a tedious slog. What are some actually fun restrictions?

[Anonymous No.1895515]

ff7 is great :)

[Anonymous No.1895524]

>>1895489
>>1895501
How about if a character faints in battle, you can't use them anymore because they actually died?

If all chars die and there is no other usable char, game over. Aeris must stay alive until aeris dies.

[Anonymous No.1895619]

>>1895249
>nostalgia
B-buh-but anon, I only played FFVII one year ago at the age of 18.

[Anonymous No.1895627]

>>1895484
FFVII is larger than life. I don't think there's any game that has such diverse, emotional, and sometimes even flagrant opinions. I think this sums up the game's notoriety:

"Down to number one. I'm sure you've had one of these two reactions: "YES! NAILED IT! FFVII FTW!" or "Dammit! This overrated game again!" The very fact that FFVII is so much discussed vehemently today testifies to its greatness. Our "emotional game" could only be this game. No other option exists. The game is a festival of true emotions, deep characters, memorable events. Unlike other games, you'll live with this game. You'll recognize its characters as real people. It's the most human game out there.

You walk with the game's protagonist, Cloud, with his arrogance and cool attitude but grows to learn to value the importance of comradeship and his friends. You learn to respect the charismatic Sephiroth. You understand the emotional value behind the relationship between these two men, which is a complex mixture of respect and hostility. A dead character, Zack, shadows the events of game and injects a sense of loss. You are fascinated by the dark, sardonic character of Vincent. You fall in love with the sweet Aerith, and her death scene and funeral is one of the saddest most shocking scene in the history of gaming. And this is just tip of the iceberg.

FF Tactics is the ultimate pluralistic games which encompasses all ideas and philosophies. FFVII does the same with emotions, it contains all you've felt. It's a gigantic work of art."

from: http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/top10/2259-the-top-10-games-which-deal-with-important-emotional-issues

[Anonymous No.1896074]

>>1895502
The only reason I would like to see a remake of FF7 is to see Cloud in a dress.

[Anonymous No.1896263]

>>1893558
X-2 is so fun, but you can't take it seriously. The story, dialogue, and voice acting is awful, but it's so damn fun.

[Anonymous No.1896289]

>>1895489
I like imposing job classes with materia.
I recently did a Chrono Trigger-esque thing.

>Cloud: Lightning
(Bolt, Ultima, Sense)

>Tifa: Ice
(Ice, Restore, Steal)

>Barret: Fire
(All Fire, Deathblow, Throw)

>Aeris/Yuffie: Earth
(Earth, All Restore, Heal)

>Red XIII: Blue Mage
(Enemy Skill)

>Cait Sith: Master Mage
(All Fire, All Ice, All Bolt, Contain)

>Cid: Paladin
(All Restore, All Barrier, All Time)

>Vincent: Edge Mage
(All Gravity, All Destruct, Comet)

It was a fun run, I just wish I could have used all the characters more.

[Anonymous No.1897118]

I'm sure everyone knows about this already but it still gets a kick out of me.

[Anonymous No.1897121]

>>1897118
I don't remember that at all'
Fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.1897124]

>>1897121

Talk to vegetable Cloud 3 times and you'll see it

Real and heterosexual.

[Anonymous No.1897145]

>>1893558
Tidus gets better as the game goes on.

[Anonymous No.1897152]

>>1897145
But still remains pretty annoying
Not enough to turn off people from a good game though

[Anonymous No.1897158]

>>1893569
>and it has glaring issues in terms of gameplay character and plot

What are these glaring issues specifically?

[Anonymous No.1897168]

>>1895484
The game received rave reviews from every gaming journalist and magazine at the time. I'm pretty sure most or all of those were familiar with JRPGs, as were many gamers. I'd say the game, at the time, was very much judged fairly and without prejudice. Any unfair prejudice came much later.

[Anonymous No.1897187]

Anyone else get the red sub for the only reason of it looking way cooler than the purple sub?

Also: DOGNAPPING

[Anonymous No.1897191]

>>1897187
You could choose sub colors?
wtf?

[Anonymous No.1897245]

>>1897187
Hell yah, Lol at dognapping - handsdown funniest line. You have to lose the sub story fight

[Anonymous No.1898071]

>>1893437

>No FF gives you more than a fake feeling of freedom on the world map anyway.

That goes for a ton of games yet there's something about getting out on that world map even if you only can go in one direction. Might be all that green?

[Anonymous No.1898206]

Recently played through for the first time, and I think it deserves most of the hype it gets. It really comes into it's own once you get a variety of materia to experiment with. Storywise it's not the strongest entry imho, but it definitely avoided having tedious battles. One complaint I do have is that most of the enemies are forgettable.

[Anonymous No.1898223]

>>1898206

How did you that didn't play it back in the days find the graphics? Personally i feel they aged horribly as it came out in the years when 3d was more or less a pile of blocks.

[Anonymous No.1898226]

>>1898206
>naming cloud overrated in the first 30 minutes of the game having never played it before

Yeha nah any opinion you have is not worth listening to .

You obviously had "your" opinions on the game before you even started.

[Anonymous No.1898232]

>>1898206
>One complaint I do have is that most of the enemies are forgettable.

Get out.

[Anonymous No.1898259]

>>1898223
Not the person you are asking, but on a recent playthrough of mine, I was so distracted by the "block arms" of everyone, that I did the mod that replaces all the character models with higher-resolution ones.
I didn't have any complaints about the graphics after that.

[Anonymous No.1898278]

>>1898259

>cloud and aeris still look fucked up

Don't dabble in anorexia kids. Having played it before i'd almost prefer the blox.

[Anonymous No.1898286]

>>1898278
Yeah, here's hoping for the re-release to not be a total disaster.

[Anonymous No.1898287]

>>1898259
Does that mod replace every npc in the game?

It would look hella weird seeing full size cloud talking to a bunch of blocky kids. I kind of like the old fashioned sd-graphics anyway, it reminds me of the older FF games.

[Anonymous No.1898314]

Does Bootleg help? I tried to install something called Tifa's package but i didn't notice any difference. Did I not install properly?

[Anonymous No.1898358]

>>1898206
>most of the enemies are forgettable
W-what? FFVII easily has some of the best enemy entries in the series, such as pic-related or doom house.

[Anonymous No.1898359]

>>1898206
>most of the enemies are forgettable
W-what? FFVII easily has some of the best enemy entries in the series, such as pic-related.

[Anonymous No.1898365]

>>1898359
>not ghost ship

[Anonymous No.1898389]

Easiest but most entertaining boss ever was Palmer

[Anonymous No.1898427]

>>1898223
>>1898226
I should rephrase what I posted, I meant I played through COMPLETELY for the first time. Back when it released I played up to first visit to rocket town. Plus I named him overrated for a laugh.

>>1898232
>>1898359
I did say 'most', plus it's just an opinion, no need to get upset.

[Anonymous No.1898443]

>>1898427
Fair enough.

[Anonymous No.1898451]

>>1898206
They were only forgettable because there where so many. I looked at a bestiary and there were monsters I never saw in game. Even after multiple playthroughs.

[Anonymous No.1901921]

Anyone remember the debug room in FF7?

I spent so many hours in that place, so much content in there.
It's too bad they don't do those any more....

[Anonymous No.1901935]

>>1901921
They do, but they usually strip them out of the game. Not that you could access them in normal gameplay to begin with.

[Anonymous No.1902771]

Just finished the game myself. I enjoyed it but it seemed to be pretty easy than the other ones. Only major complaint is Super Nova, god damn.

[Anonymous No.1903094]

>>1902771
you try and fight ruby or emerald weapon:?

[Anonymous No.1903480]

>>1902771

OREOS ARE NOW UPON US

OREOS ARE NOW UPON US

SEPHIROTH!

[Anonymous No.1903486]

>ff7
>grinding
>ever

git gud @ strategy

[Anonymous No.1904501]

>>1901935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzbuABYClaE

This was found literally a week ago or so

[Anonymous No.1904539]

>>1902771
Protip, when Seph is going to use Supernova, have Vincent mug him, this triggers a glitch that makes the next animation skip.

[Anonymous No.1905215]

>>1901921
Ah yes... had tons of fun with that, by myself, with brothers or with friends. I remember we dexdrived a hacked savefile that would load right into debug room to make things easier.

I was also able to find a memcard for emulators that let me mess around there again a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.1905246]

>>1904501

Holy crap... quite shocked to see this. I wonder if this method works on PS1? Hoping someone on TASVideos can test this... and if so, make an insane beeline-to-debug room TAS.

[Anonymous No.1905873]

>>1905246
Sadly this is PC-only.

[Anonymous No.1905885]

>>1897145
yeah, he goes from being a petulant baby to a fatalistic teenager

>>1896263
X-2 is the antithesis of fun

[Anonymous No.1907367]

>>1898287
There were several earlier release where only some NPCs were replaced. Some guy took over and finished up the remaining NPCs with variable results. It's still a nice mod though, using it along with the remastered music, reasonable difficulty and menu GUI mod makes for a nice replay IMO.

[Anonymous No.1907372]

>>1905885
>X-2 is the antithesis of fun
How so? It doesn't take itself seriously, the OST is an enjoyable departure from the original, Sphere Break is fun as fuck, excavating allows for maximum autism and the job and battle system together make up for the gameplay in the series.

XIII's battle system was supposed to be an improvement on X-2's, it's too bad they took elements of XII's and created the fucked up mess that it turned out to be.

[Anonymous No.1907385]

>>1893357
>i get that it's not for everyone
Dragon Quest is not for everyone. FFVII, meanwhile, is plain old bad.

Apart from graphics and music. Graphics and music were great. Also, the initial Midgar parts were rather unique and entertaining.

[Anonymous No.1907396]

>>1904501
What levels of (literal) autism does it take to find these things? Christ.

[Anonymous No.1907687]

>>1903480

[Anonymous No.1907709]

>>1904501
This is the second Final Fantasy glitch that I've seen that exploits the game over screen. What is it about how this series handles game overs that makes them prone to glitches?

[Anonymous No.1909395]

>>1893558

The unskippable cutscenes are an unforgivable sin, especially in the HD remake, but the battle system is still the best one in any Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.1909406]

>>1893968

I love the Nibelheim flashback. Seeing a young Cloud, visiting your mother, raiding Tifa's panties, watching in awe as Sephiroth does high level magic and kills shit in one swipe. I especially love the scenes in the reactor, with the discovery of mutated humans and Jenova. And then of course the REAL flashback showing what actually occurred...

It's a shame they retconned Cloud's shining moment in Crisis Core (and even more offensively in The Last Order with Sephy willingly jumping into the Lifestream, give me a fucking break).

[Anonymous No.1909420]

>>1907687
my sides

[Anonymous No.1909625]

>>1909395
I love the FFX battle system. It's a great way to get around the old problem jrpgs have of having a ton of characters you can't use.