/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1883173]

In your opinion, does Ocarina of Time still hold up to this day? Has anyone here played it for the first time recently? If so, please tell me your thoughts.

I feel I'm a bit biased since I remember back when the game was brand new and I thought it was the coolest thing ever at the time - I played it multiple times over those 16 years, and while I still can go back to it and enjoy it, I understand my vision might be a bit clouded by nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.1883178]

>>1883173
oddly enough I played MM before OoT. My first Zelda was ALttP.

played OoT around 2010

i do not see the big deal.

[Anonymous No.1883197]

>>1883178
Majora's Mask is pretty much the only Zelda game I would recommend not playing before another one (OoT). Most of the games are fairly stand-alone but I think it's practically required to play OoT first in order to enjoy MM to its fullest.

[Anonymous No.1883271]

>>1883173

I played OOT when it first came out. Beat it then, it was great. Didn't touch it until the 3DS remake.

Played that. I'd say the game has held up pretty well. Speaking purely from a gameplay standpoint, the game is fine.
Nintendo struck gold with Z-targeting. That completely makes the battles in the game timeless. Because you never have to fight the camera, it's just going to work.

So yea, game holds up. It's got variety.

[Anonymous No.1883282]

I think egoraptor summed it up nicely.

It was good, but it could have been a whole lot better.

[Anonymous No.1883297]

>>1883197
I think MM can be played standalone if you're up to it. It's just that the reaction towards it tends to be pretty polarized, probably less than SS maybe but still.

[Anonymous No.1883303]

>>1883282
dont bite that bait

[Anonymous No.1883305]

Of course. What a stupid question.

[Anonymous No.1883324]

It holds up very well in a lot of ways. The only thing I can see people complain about is the framerate.

[Anonymous No.1883331]

I never grew up with nintendo and only just recently played the game for the first time on the 3ds, and found it a very good game. Though personally, I find the top down zelda games more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.1883567]

played it for the first time recently, it's good but nowhere near the EPITOME OF GAMES that it's praised to be and frankly i have a hard time not being constantly annoyed about the terrible framerate

[Anonymous No.1883576]

The pacing is shit though, like you start the game listen to a bunch of bullshit then 5 minutes later your hit with more bullshit the game doesnt ever just shut the fuck up and let you play. Also the pacing of items in the game is pretty bad in some parts like you get 4 tools at once then nothing for a while it should have been spread out a bit better. I still like the game but when people praise it like the best of all time it makes me rage. Its good yes but definitely overrated.

[Anonymous No.1883583]

I just can't get into 3D Zeldas.

[Anonymous No.1883586]

Yeah, it still holds up. But no, its not the best game ever/perfect by any means.

[Anonymous No.1883592]

It's good. Not "teh best game evur". It's a fond game from many people's childhood, but it's not for everyone.

Why does this need to be discussed every single day?

[Anonymous No.1883593]

>>1883583
For me, I can't get into the 2D ones. Yet for Mario it's the opposite. I can get into the 2D ones just fine, but the 3D ones take me some time getting used to.

[Anonymous No.1883595]

>>1883173
I think ocarina of time holds up very well as a game today. It is very well balanced in all aspects though the story may seem "generic"

[Anonymous No.1883604]

>>1883173
It hasn't. The control is clunky, the platforming is floaty, the hit detention is weird, the aiming is horrible the field of view is pretty limited and the camera loves to film walls instead of your fightings a lot of times.
The setting, the music, the story and the characters are still great, but it has aged poorly.

[Anonymous No.1883614]

>>1883576
We're talking about ocarina of time. Not twilight princess

[Anonymous No.1883625]

>>1883592
Of course it's good, it's a Zelda game. The problem is that it's really overrated because compared to most of the 5th gen 3D shit at the time this was glorious. It still has aged poorly anyway, and not because of the graphics, but because of the gameplay.

[Anonymous No.1883659]

I think it's incredible. I think that it makes sense that many like other Zelda games better than OoT, but I feel like most people who say it's a bad game just say so because it's so popular.

[Anonymous No.1883685]

People only like this game because they wanna bone Saria

[Anonymous No.1883771]

How many "does X still hold up" threads do we need a day?

[Anonymous No.1883776]

OoT is awesome for the glitchy-ass speedrun community it's created. Seriously, watching someone beat this game in ~18 minutes is fucking crazy.

[Anonymous No.1883785]

>>1883776
Don't forget the romhacking community and the info surrounding its development.

[Anonymous No.1883797]

Very badly, same as almost all N64 games, because of low framerate.

[Anonymous No.1883863]

>>1883797
>framerate
Do you even know what that means? Because that's not an issue at all.

[Anonymous No.1883865]

>>1883685
I just want to cuddle with her, Anon.

[Anonymous No.1883867]

>>1883776
yes I really appreciate the autism awareness it has raised

[Anonymous No.1883869]

>>1883685
Ocarina of Time was practically a harem game.

[Anonymous No.1883875]

It holds up just fine. Its not a particularly expensive game either.

[Anonymous No.1883925]

It's a fun game. As fun as it always was.

Yall talking about aging and shit really have nothing else to talk about. Does anyone honestly care whether an old game is clunky or a bit difficult to play? Is this not expected for all older games?

[Anonymous No.1883940]

>>1883925
Of course not. Mario 64 control is perfect even to this day. OoT's on the other hand isn't. Like, at all.

[Anonymous No.1883952]

>>1883940
But SM64 has its own problems. What I'm saying is who actually cares. Why discuss this?

Finding fault in 20 year old games is not hard and it's not like you're finding something new here.

[Anonymous No.1883964]

>>1883940
>Mario 64 control is perfect even to this day.
Not really, for me that is. Certain moves are a pain to execute properly and don't get me started on the fucking camera. Say what you will about OoT's camera, but SM64's camera was even more of a hassle.

[Anonymous No.1883986]

>>1883952
People who play those games nowadays. Because it's extremely overrated.

>>1883964
That's definitely your problem.

>SM64's camera was even more of a hassle.
Yeah, no. For starters you have a wider field of vision and a lot more control over your camera in Mario 64, and the camera doesn't get stuck in walls while you're fighting things.

[Anonymous No.1883990]

>>1883173
Its a fine Zelda game. Simplistic dungeon puzzles, simple bosses.

[Anonymous No.1883995]

>>1883986
>overrated.

Oh so it's the babbys. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Anonymous No.1883998]

>>1883995
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1884000]

>>1883173
OoT was a game that, upon first playthrough, I was in heaven. It was an utterly beautiful experience. I used to actually daydream about playing it in school during class and couldn't wait to get home and play it (I never daydreamed about playing other games before or again in my life. I did want to go home and play games, of course, but I wouldn't actually daydream about playing them. That's how immersed I was in OoT's fairy tale world). However I never felt like replaying it again and didn't until maybe 15 years later. I've only ever played it twice in my life; for me it doesn't have much replay value. It was still a great game but I just didn't feel the magic of that first time. That might have to do with not being 12 anymore though. Also it was emulated the next round so for me that detracts from the experience due to bugs and graphical inconsistencies/glitches.

Link's Awakening is my favourite Zelda game and I think it never fails to give me feels. I've only replayed that maybe four or five times at the very most though.

[Anonymous No.1884004]

>>1883998
>uses overrated to describe a game
>go back to /v/

Yep. Babbys.

[Anonymous No.1884007]

It's not as awesome as it was back in 1998, but it's still a pretty good game.

[Anonymous No.1884009]

>>1883173
I don't know why people have started shitting on this game. The world design, dungeons and gameplay are all solid as fuck. It's a great game.

[Anonymous No.1884010]

>>1884004
>Uses Babbys
>Greentexting and shitposting
Yep, >>>/v/ And don't come back, please.

[Anonymous No.1884012]

It's crap.

[Anonymous No.1884016]

>>1884010

[Anonymous No.1884020]

>>1884009
Pointing out obvious flaws isn't shitting on the game. Stop getting so defensive.

[Anonymous No.1884025]

>>1884009
It's a good game. It has flaws, and some of the dungeons leave a lot to be desired.

[Anonymous No.1884029]

>>1883986
>Because it's extremely overrated.

So is Mario 64 :^)

>For starters you have a wider field of vision and a lot more control over your camera in Mario 64,

It tends to go both ways. Sometimes it helps, and in other times it tends to screw you over if you're not careful

>and the camera doesn't get stuck in walls while you're fighting things.

It can if you position it at certain angles on some levels.

That said, maybe I'm being a little too hard on it, but I didn't really enjoy it as much as you did. If you do, good for you. Different strokes I guess. I honestly thought Spyro 1 did SM64's camera better on most aspects.

[Anonymous No.1884030]

>>1884020
Pointing out that it's a great game is my right. Stop getting so defensive.

[Anonymous No.1884032]

>>1884010
>greentexting with caps

[Anonymous No.1884035]

>>1884010
>>1884016
Both of you should fuck off back.
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1884037]

>>1884030
I never said it's not a great game. Stop getting so defensive.

[Anonymous No.1884038]

Ocarina of Time was a great game when it came out in the late 90s. Compared to most fully 3D games of the era, it looked awesome. Also we hadn't had a non-handheld Zelda game since the beginning of the SNES and the series made the jump from 2D to 3D really well. Sure, it has its flaws but it is still quite enjoyable especially if you're a fan of the Zelda series.

[Anonymous No.1884039]

>>1884037
Stop getting so defensive.

[Anonymous No.1884040]

>>1884039
Stop getting so offensive.

[Anonymous No.1884041]

>>1884039
Stop.

[Anonymous No.1884043]

>>1884041
Getting so defensive?

[Anonymous No.1884046]

>>1884043
Stop in general.

[Anonymous No.1884049]

>>1884046
You stop first.

[Anonymous No.1884051]

This board should be shut down. Look at who is posting now, it's fucking embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.1884054]

>>1884051
Stop getting so embarrassed.

[Anonymous No.1884056]

>>1884016
Khaleesi is such a qt :3

I'd marry her tbh

[Anonymous No.1884057]

>>1884054
Fucking cancer.

[Anonymous No.1884060]

>>1884057

[Anonymous No.1884061]

>>1884057
Now, that's some unintentionally funny and yet related stuff, because you can help STOP cancer by watching OoT speed runs.

[Anonymous No.1884068]

>>1884056
I hope Tyrian marries the Caleesi!!!

[Anonymous No.1884071]

>>1884068
He's not man enough for her m8.

That would be pretty epic though.

[Anonymous No.1884076]

>>1884060
Yes I'm mad people like you are ruining a once decent board.

>>1884061
I don't get where you draw that conclusion. But you're probably cancer too.

nb

[Anonymous No.1884083]

>>1884076
good lol

[Anonymous No.1884084]

>>1884076
It's not funny if you have to explain the joke, but then again, you're not fun at all, so here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M7IINwTFVw

[Anonymous No.1884086]

>>1884084
that faggot paints his nails right? absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.1884087]

>>1884084
>i'm not funny
>expects me to get a joke about oot speedrunning

[Anonymous No.1884098]

>>1883173
Kind of. I think anything involved with the analog stick is stiff and not very precise, and the gameplay is nothing special by today's standards, but I'd say that it still holds up well.
The 3DS Remake is by far the superior version, though, no matter how many comparison screenshots anyone posts.

[Anonymous No.1884104]

Glad to see that these kinds of threads still contain the shitposting

[Anonymous No.1884108]

>>1884098
Did they at least fix the aiming in the 3DS? Cause my god was that bad in the original.

[Anonymous No.1884124]

Trufax about OoT:

>the overworld is empty as hell
>the combat is mostly about waiting for enemies to show their weak spots, it's not engaging or challenging (including most bosses)
>literally the only characters with even half of a personality is Link's harem (and no characters with developed personalities, obviously)

I generally like the dungeons, they're themed well and there's a lot of content there. The general feel of the game is excellent, in terms of environment. 6/10 one of the worst retro Zeldas but not a bad game.

[Anonymous No.1884136]

>>1884124
>the overworld is empty as hell
Ok, that's true.

>>the combat is mostly about waiting for enemies to show their weak spots
Arin, please. Git gud and go for them instead of just waiting like an idiot.

>literally the only characters with even half of a personality is Link's harem
Except that's fucking wrong. Do the sidequests.

[Anonymous No.1884139]

I still like it.
OOT 3D is fun too.

[Anonymous No.1884148]

>>1884108
They did. Aiming can be done by moving your 3DS around. Think of it as like how you move in Face Raiders if you know what that is.

[Anonymous No.1884152]

I never thought OoT was anything special, even in 1998.

All it did was convince me I was right in thinking Zelda couldn't be done in 3D.

[Anonymous No.1884162]

>>1884152
too bad you were already jaded 15 years ago

[Anonymous No.1884168]

>>1884152
What didn't you like about it?

[Anonymous No.1884175]

>>1884148
That's good to hear. I need to buy me a 3DS this year, so I might give it a go after I play ALBW.

[Anonymous No.1884180]

>>1884175
just buy it already what are you waiting for. get the xl.

[Anonymous No.1884189]

>>1884136
>Git gud and go for them instead of just waiting like an idiot.

There's just nothing there. It isn't challenging at all. And even in a "how fast can a kill an enemy" sense it's just a question of timing B to match the enemy's ticks. There's absolutely nothing dynamic about it.

Zelda II has the best combat out of any Zelda game, but the overhead view games and the later 3D games all had better combat than OoT/MM.

>Except that's fucking wrong. Do the sidequests.

Eww, you're actually trying to tell me OoT has good NPC characterization? Seriously? It's like you haven't played MM or LA

[Anonymous No.1884217]

>>1884189
>Zelda II has the best combat out of any Zelda game
>Jump and slash
>Jump and slash
>Jump and slash
>Use reflect and crouch
>Jump and slash
>Jump and slash
>Jump and slash
>Jump and slash
>Crouch and slash a lot
Oh, yeah. That was fucking great. Truly the pinnacle of videogame fighting.

Yes, you have cool ones like Dampe, Anju, her brother and the carpenters. It's brief, but it's still good.

[Anonymous No.1884237]

>>1883173

I actually played it for the first time last summer.

It was incredibly fun. Everything - gameplay, atmosphere, pacing, difficulty curve - felt so smooth. It was almost weird how perfectly everything clicked into each other.

To me the story mattered the most (holy shit that shift of tone from child to adult!), but I can see why gamers have sunk their teeth into this game.

[Anonymous No.1884238]

Still one of the best Zelda games, so I'd say yes.

[Anonymous No.1884262]

>>1883604
>the platforming is floaty
Is "floaty" a new buzz word or something, I see a lot of /v/tards coming on here and using this word where it doesn't apply.

[Anonymous No.1884264]

>>1884262
kids from /v/ make 3/4 of the threads now, where have you been?

[Anonymous No.1884267]

>>1884175
>>1884180
I don't recommend the XL. The low-resolution combined with the large screen size and no added anti-aliasing or anything makes games a little too ugly for my tastes.
The regular size isn't much better, I'm afraid. Both of them look ALMOST great, but the XL just stands out more.
If you want the 3D (I don't care for it, it adds nothing to any game I've played), get the regular size. If you don't, get the 2DS, it's not like you're some turbonerd who actually brings their portable consoles out of your house anyway

[Anonymous No.1884274]

>>1884189
>Eww, you're actually trying to tell me OoT has good NPC characterization? Seriously? It's like you haven't played MM or LA
That's like saying that internet fanart is shit because the Mona Lisa exists
Please try to stop parroting Egoraptor and instead form your own opinions

[Anonymous No.1884302]

>>1884267
Great.

Most people want the biggest, newest version.

Thanks for your opinion, though.

[Anonymous No.1884336]

Its almost a chore to go back and play it because I've played it so much the game is too easy.