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Hey, \vr\! So, how was Brutal Doom? I'm interested in trying it.

>> No.1849132

>>1849096
You are? The original game is better.

As a mod, it seems to be trying very hard and the developer has his head up his ass. The original game had class too.

>> No.1849139

>>1849132
Terminus pls go

>> No.1849145

>>1849096
What are you waiting for? It doesn't cost anything. Just download it and give it a go, not sure what you want to hear.

>> No.1849148 [DELETED] 

>>1849132
>The original game is better.
Way slower and more repetitive. Vanilla Doom is outdated.

>> No.1849150

>>1849096
What's stopping you from trying it?

I've heard it can be kind of polarizing. I'm playing it right now and I'm enjoying it. Personally, I don't think it's any better or worse than the original, but it does feel like a different game somewhat.

>> No.1849152

>>1849132
>The original game had class too.

A bunch of gratuitous violence and nonsense.

>> No.1849168
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1849168

A lot of people give Brutal Doom a lot of shit but with all the attention it's been getting I feel like it could be the gateway for tons of new people to enter the oldschool Doom community.

>> No.1849181 [DELETED] 

>>1849152
Yeah but it's outdated "gratuitous violence and nonsense". That means to fedora tipping, tumbling, white knight permavirgins that it is now a classy thing, just because it's old. Never mind how crass and disturbing it was at the time of its release, at that time our discerned gentlemen were just swimming circles in their daddies ball sacks anyway, now it is a classy game for classy gentlemen such as themselves and anybody who attempts to add blood effects that are more contemporary is nothing but a ruffian and barbarian and generally scum of the earth in their mind.

I fucking hate Doom hipsters so much. They can all die in a fire.

>> No.1849187

>>1849148
>talking about a video game being outdated on an image board about retro gaming

>> No.1849217

>>1849187

and then they go ahead and bash modern gaming for being "shit", while asking for "HD" releases of old videogames because they don't want to play the originals

gotta love those kind of kids

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>>1849096

>> No.1849687

>>1849293
>Reading through a lot of manga lately
>See tripname
>Read that image right to left

Send help.

>> No.1851571

>>1849152
Sounds great to me.

>> No.1851606

It's fantastic but don't you dare mention it in the Doom general.

>> No.1851621

>>1849168
Sure it'll lead people into the Doom community

The old school Doom community? No chance in hell. It's the main problem I have with fancy OpenGL only mods

>> No.1851704

>>1849168
>I feel like it could be the gateway for tons of new people to enter the oldschool Doom community.

The problem is it does the exact opposite. You end up with retards who only played Brutal Doom that tell other new players to only stick with Brutal Doom and then beg wad makers to make their wads compatible with Brutal Doom. This is a big reason why the modding community really hates Brutal Doom.

>> No.1851730

Alot of Doomers at Doomworld aren't quite happy about Brutal Doom due to the fact that a majority Brutal Doom fans Complain that a Certain Level wad (I.E. Stardate 20x6) Is unbalanced with brutal doom and they could rate that wad a low score on /IDGames.

Otherwise, Brutal Doom just isn't good and is overrated in my opinion.

>> No.1852573

>>1851704
If I were the guy responsible for BD, I'd be pretty fucking sad about the whole situation. You spend time on something that brings fun to people, and now sizable swaths of the community curse your name. I'd take great care not to be a dick, but still.

>> No.1852589

>>1849096
You will get alot of diehard fans of the original claiming its a travesty, "awful", or at the least, not as good as the original.
Coming from somebody who loves them both, I can tell you it's a fucking blast. Completed it w/ doom2 last year (does it work on other dooms? guessing it does) and man - one of the funnest videogames i have played in a long, LONG time. Get off /vr/ right now OP, and go play it! I guarantee you will enjoy it. Best mod ive played in recent years

>> No.1852598

Try Beautiful Doom instead.

>> No.1852618

>>1852573
Yeah well you aren't Sgt. Mark IV and thank fucking god. He's a prick with a massively over inflated ego, and honestly believes that Doom 4 is based on his fucking mod, because he was clearly the first person to make a gore mod/TC.

And he routinely rips stuff from other modders without properly acknowledging them. So long as he recolors a few pixels he thinks it's fair game. His own original maps, like Knee Deep in the Jungle, just show that he isn't really super brilliant like he believes he is.

And he has some kind of weird obsession with making every repetitive noise loud and abnoxious.

>>1852589
You enjoyed it because you enjoy Doom 2, Brutal Doom doesn't change Doom's base mechanics enough to make it a significantly different experience along the lines of, say, Project MSX or Samsara. Really you can do a lot of the stuff Brutal Doom does in GZDoom anyways.

>> No.1852625

>>1852618
I enjoyed it because it was one hell of a fun mod.

>> No.1852627

>>1852625
It does nothing different from Doom 2 except changing hitscanning and executions that are crap.
What about that was so fucking magical?

>> No.1852628

>>1851621
>It's the main problem I have with fancy OpenGL only mods
I've never really understood the point in making something as a Doom mod if you're going to use a bunch of features that aren't actually Doom features. Some of the mods you see now might as well just be standalone games.

>> No.1852632

>>1852628
So, what, you just want everything to be Doom 2?
Uhh
okay man
I guess I know why you're on /vr/

>> No.1852642

>>1852632
Cool reading comprehension. I'm fine with some new engine features and stuff, as was stated in my original post.

My issue is with shit like Total Chaos, although also with mods that aren't quite as intensive. At this point lots of "doom mods" are basically games that run on an engine that happens to be capable of running doom.

>> No.1852643

>>1852627
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Brutal_Doom

>"It does nothing different"

>> No.1852651

>>1849096
Don't listen to the haters. It's great and very fun. Yes vanilla is also fun for any of you neckbeards that hate that there are those that like Brutal Doom.

>> No.1852665

Speaking of substantial gameplay mods, ChocoDoom is surprisingly good for cleansing the palate after getting mod fatigue. I can run it at 320x240 pillarboxed and still get that sense of wonder the first time I Doomed.

>> No.1852667

>>1849096
It's very fun. It makes the gameplay tighter and more responsive, too. Makes the enemies react faster as well, which is great because in the original Doom they are slow motherfuckers. All in all it's a pretty great mod and you shouldn't worry about what the puritanical autists have to say about it. I'd recommend you play it for yourself and make your own decision about it m8.

>> No.1852718

>>1849096
It's like a fasttrack Doom course.

At first, it will show you how much of a pussy gamer you are, because you will die a fucking lot.

But you'll quickly get better at it and once you do, playing vanilla doom becomes significantly easier.

It's hard to go back to playing doom without that mode, due to all the fun gory effects and whatnot, though. But it's doable.

>> No.1852724

>>1852718
>But you'll quickly get better at it and once you do, playing vanilla doom becomes significantly easier.
People actually find vanilla Doom challenging on any difficulty excluding Nightmare? Even ever? Wow. Why are you all so shitty at video games?

>> No.1852726

>>1849096
I like it a lot but unfortunately my toaster can't handle the latest one. Framerate really dies at times, completely unplayable by the time Dead Simple rolls round. When I tried it for the first time like two years back it was fine, but somehow my toaster can't handle v19.

Oh well.

>> No.1852727

>>1852726
use zdoom instead of opengl based engine. It makes a world of a difference in performance

>> No.1852729

>>1852727
Thanks for the tip. I'll try it out when I get home but I remember my laptop having framerate hitches with ZDoom and running GZDoom perfectly fine. Don't know what's up with that. Nice dubs.

>> No.1852730

>>1852724

Because they are not challenging enough. Normal non-nightmare doom is not that hard, it's just that brutal doom shows you how much better you could be, because it raises the bar so much.

>> No.1852731 [DELETED] 

>>1852730
Vanilla Doom is absolute piss.

>> No.1852732

>>1852632
>go on /vr/ to talk about modern weapons wad
I sure know why i came here to the retro games board.

>>1852642
>>1852628
Pretty much. It's great that the engine is so great that you can do things like that but it seems people only care about ever playing these mods nowadays and it's like why even have a doom thread anymore? They don't care about the game itself, just playing fancy mods with it. like this guy >>1852718

>> No.1852736 [DELETED] 

Vanilla Doom can eat my asshole.

>> No.1852748

>>1852736
>>>/v/

>> No.1852767

>>1849096
Spent the last 3 months playing doom 2 and final doom with it (96 maps). Its kickass, and I much prefer it to modern fps.

>> No.1852801

Brutal doom is fucking awesome, probably one of, if not, THE best Doom mod of all time. Doom would have never stuck around as long as it has if not for BD. Blasting aliens has never been this much fun.

>> No.1852804

>>1852801
Are you for real? You do realize BD is only a couple of years old, right?

>> No.1852807

>>1852804
>falling for shitty bait

>> No.1852829

>>1852807
This entire thread is a shitty bait.

>> No.1852838

>>1852801
>Brutal doom is fucking awesome

I have to admit that it has moments.

>probably one of, if not, THE best Doom mod of all time

No.

>Doom would have never stuck around as long as it has if not for BD

Doom did pretty well before it. And will continue to do with or without BD.

>Blasting aliens has never been this much fun.

Confirmed for being a millennium kiddie who didn't taste of playing doom in the 90's.

>> No.1852876

play hideous destructor OP

>> No.1852914

>>1852838
Confirmed for being a bellend. You seemed likeable until that last part.

>> No.1852935

Wow butthurt nerd backlash or what

Brutal Doom is a cool mod
But you should play Action Doom instead

>> No.1852939

>>1849096
It's a great mod. The kiddies in the /vr/ Doom general are mad jelly that they could never make something nearly that great. Fact of life.

>> No.1853023

>>1852939
agreed

>> No.1853040

It's fun for what it is. The weapons feel nice to use and the gore can be very satisfying. It does feel way too over the top with effects at times though, and reloading is a shitty addition to the game. The other crappy additions are all optional though. It also throws the game balance out of whack, obviously.

>> No.1853059

>>1853040
>It also throws the game balance out of whack, obviously.
Who the fuck cares? Vanilla Doom is so ridiculously easy anyway it's a total snorefest. I can't get any satisfaction out of that game anymore (though granted the first time I played it was 20 years ago). At least BD adds some challenge and makes things interesting again.

>> No.1853101

>>1851704
I don't know, dear retard. I played doom since it was released. I don't give a shit if people play brutal doom now instead of doom. 20 years are more than enough, what's this retarded idea that a game must remain unchanged for so long? it's not like brutal doom is some sort of cawaduty shit, even with reloading, so in conclusion fuck off... Also I see no problem in kids today getting their first taste of doom via brutal doom or if the mod community switched to it, again it's still a doomish fun game and not some boring gay shit.

tl;dr fuck off

>> No.1853104

>>1852618
>Yeah well you aren't Sgt. Mark IV and thank fucking god. He's a prick with a massively over inflated ego, and honestly believes that Doom 4 is based on his fucking mod, because he was clearly the first person to make a gore mod/TC.

it is you fucking retard, id software was mentioning brutal doom like crazy like a year or so and keeps linking to new releases, they obviously took inspiration from it

>> No.1853115

>>1853104
Agreed.

id can deny it all they want and claim Doom 4 is inspired by the comic, but you'd have to idiotic to deny the clear influence BD has had on D4 (based on what we've heard anyway).

>> No.1853128

I just downloaded BD.

Haven't played Doom in a while so can't be sure but... is the movement gimped in BD? It feels kinda weird.

>> No.1853131

>>1852939
Hi Mark.

>> No.1853136

>>1853131
>being this delusional
lol you gigantic homo. I bet you live your entire life in denial. Believing only what you want to believe is a coping mechanism and you're weaker for it anon. Be strong, not a fucking pussy.

>> No.1853195

>>1852838
>Blasting aliens has never been this much fun
>Blasting aliens
>aliens

Go to sleep underage faggot. You got school tomorrow