/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1835750]

Underrated classics and hidden gems

[Anonymous No.1835765]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ_2Ck1gBjQ

[Anonymous No.1835779]

>>1835750
>>Hidden gems underrated Classics
Batman Forever pic
good one, that game is a pile of shit

[Anonymous No.1835807]

>>1835750
I feel like any redeeming factors that this game may have had were probably destroyed because of how many people watch AVGN and are easily swayed. It's not the only game it hasn't happened to, that's for sure. Before the days of Youtube, I would just go to planetemu and download whatever at 2.3kb/s and hope to god nobody would call my house or even think of using the phone. In the good ol days picking a game was an investment and you played what you had. Haven't played this yet but I plan to before making an opinion and so should everyone else.

Here's my gem.
Undercover Cops is a beat em up by Irem, and if you like one beat em up you usually like them all. I'm not even sure if it came out in American arcades. This game has the signature difficulty that Irem is known for and you'll require some good reflexes to get the good ending. Also there's two versions of the arcade game. One is the original version, and the other is a retooling of the game with more drum samples in the music as well as more super moves. (last time I checked)

Have fun!

[Anonymous No.1835819]

>>1835807
You mean the alpha renewal. It's not as much a retooling as it is the actual finished version of the game released for the international market. The japanese version had all the changes in backgrounds and special moves as the alpha renewal, so it's pretty likely the other world rom was a playtest machine or a rushed release.

[Anonymous No.1835851]

>>1835807
>I'm not even sure if it came out in American arcades.
It was the first version released and it bombed terribly from what I heard, mostly because it wasn't as finished as the Japanese version.

[Anonymous No.1835859]

You can't just say things like that without offering at least some explanation, OP.

I feel that Sunset Riders has kinda been forgotten. Haven't seen anyone talk about it much. The SNES version is one of my all time favourite shooters, and definitely up there with Contra as a co-op game.

[Anonymous No.1835876]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO1tJ_B9UUw

[Anonymous No.1835931]

>>1835859
bury me with my money!

[Anonymous No.1835936]

[Anonymous No.1835950]

For my money strider in NES is pretty fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.1835965]

>>1835750
I wrote in another thread about batman forever like 2 weeks ago. Can only speak for the genesis version.

As >>1835807 said, people were very easily swayed. I still kinda feel the same way about superman 64 (it's a terrible game, but by no means is it unplayable or impossibly difficult) You get the games you get and you used to immerse yourself in the experience.

People that didn't grow up with this game probably won't like it. It's not a great game by the standards of it's time, but if you got a weekend with this game and a good friend to suffer through it with, it's a whole hell of a lot of fun. My brother and me were dying laughing at the "FORGET ABOUT IT" thugs and just the random bullshit that would happen that didn't make any sense. In a sense, this game in co-op mode is a lot like watching sharknado. It's not good, and it's flaws are very obvious. Even comical. But that's what makes it so much fun. It gets old fairly quickly, but me and my brother would go back to it every now and then.

If you were to play it now, especially not playing it co-op, you will probably hate it if you just try to pick out it's flaws. Just try to have fun with it and play it and expect it to be silly and campy. The controls are easily the worst part about it, and even they are responsive.

I don't think this is a hidden gem, but it's certainly underrated due to how much shit it gets.

My retro hidden gem is Road Rash 64. Dave Mirra BMX 2 is probably my all time favorite, still to this day they have not had any improvements over any extreme sport simulators outside of skateboarding which I personally find boring.

[Anonymous No.1836014]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuc1E-QEA6U

[Anonymous No.1836337]

>>1835859
>You can't just say things like that without offering at least some explanation, OP.

OP here,
Batman Forever is one of the most despised games out there and would immediately garner responses such as this >>1835779 from people who I doubt have seriously ever played it or given it a fair chance outside of what they've heard from some dipshit youtuber.
I had the game when it was relatively new and loved it, I still do. It's Mortal Kombat on steroids. I didn't find out about its bad rep til the internet. The controls are a mere learning curve and once you figure out how to execute some moves it is immensely fun, I absolutely LOVE the grappling moves; arm breaker, head butt and knocking two opponents heads together is a blast!
It's a game I can pick up and play whenever I want a good time and never lets down.

[Anonymous No.1836340]

>>1836337
Bullshit. I picked this game over Ristar and I regretted it immediately and then even moreso when I downloaded the rom of Ristar to see what I missed outr on.

[Anonymous No.1836345]

>>1836340
You're the same butthurt faggot who cries sour grapes in every Batman Forever thread.

[Anonymous No.1836379]

>>1836345
And you're the same guy that keeps essentially trolling by saying anybody who doesn't like it is parroting the AVGN to defend the game. AVGN barely even spoke about the game. He didn't even get past the first level if I remember right. I honestly feel like you can only enjoy it -if- you didn't grow up with it. Like Bubsy 3D is horrible but it's amusing in the sense that it actually exists. If I bought it back then I'd probably despise it, though. I can't enjoy Batman Forever, though. Too many bad memories of trying to just because I had nothing else to play at the time.

If you ask me the underrated one is Adventures of Batman and Robin. That game is legitimately incredible and nobody talks about it. Or they just ignore it for the Super Nintendo version which is boring as hell.

[Anonymous No.1836398]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOpMVtYbqeE

[Anonymous No.1836405]

>>1836398
Mah nigga!

It ain't no Kojima-produced Metal Gear game, but when you look at what the series was (just the MSX and NES games) it's got everything that they had

[Anonymous No.1836409]

>>1836405
The only thing I would change are those side scrolling parts where it is too easy to run out of oxygen or accidentally use a plastic explosive.

[Anonymous No.1836423]

>>1835765
really? that game plays like a complete turd and looks like a unfinished mess.

>europoors being in charge of making 8 bit and 16 bit action games

[Anonymous No.1836424]

>>1836398
Fucking this. I would rate Snake's Revenge above Metal Gear 1 (and not just the NES version) just for the sheer variety of environments alone, since the gameplay is the same in both games anyway. Just compare:

>A dark jungle that you have sneak at night
>A warehouse
>A ship transporting mass-produced Meta Gear units
>A mined compound in the middle of a desert
>A moving train
>A second desert compound
>Three communication buildings connected by cable cars
>A castle
>The factory where the new Metal Gear is stored
vs.
>Generic Building No. 1 with three floors, a basement and a rooftop
>Outdoor area
>Generic Building No. 2 with three floors, a basement and a rooftop
>Another outdoor area
>Generic Building No. 3 that just happens to have Metal Gear in the basement

[Anonymous No.1836584]

>>1836337
>had the game when it was relatively new and loved it
>didn't find out about its bad rep til the internet

same here

[Anonymous No.1836616]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qNvux9KT3Y

[Anonymous No.1836642]

I don't know about underrated, but it's certainly a hidden gem.

[Anonymous No.1836645]

>>1836642
this also

[Anonymous No.1836738]

>>1836642
One of the best 64 games ever!
Didn't rate Back Bumble, but the theme song is fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.1836767]

>>1835750
>Batman Forever
>anything but trash
Shit nigger, what makes you think it's a good game let alone a "classic"?

>obscure controls even when you do know the specific combinations
>brick wall enemies-- tonnes of HP. knock 'em down, wait for them to get up, knock 'em down, repeat
>garish Mortal Kombat engine/graphic style completely unsuited to exploration
>horrible Sega sound effects

hated that shit as a kid

[Anonymous No.1836842]

>>1836337
Nah it's shit.

[Anonymous No.1836865]

[Anonymous No.1836875]

>>1836337
So it was one that was too 'hardkoar' for the average casual faggot and was therefore misunderstood?

I'll check it out to see if you're right...

Can I try the SNES version though? Sega is for niggers.

[Anonymous No.1836886]

[Anonymous No.1837068]

>>1836875
>Can I try the SNES version though? Sega is for niggers.
Take that shit back to /v/.

[Anonymous No.1837149]

>>1837068
Make me :)

[Anonymous No.1838086]

I liked it

[Anonymous No.1838092]

>>1835807
>I feel like any redeeming factors that this game may have had were probably destroyed because of how many people watch AVGN and are easily swayed.

Except people were shitting on this game long before AVGN made a review. I love you guys but you all really need to stop blaming AVGN for a game getting tons of hate especially if it's one that's been infamous for a really long time.

[Anonymous No.1838101]

this is such a fucking worthless thread holy shit at least type like a sentence guys

[Anonymous No.1838239]

Best Sci-fi RPG I've played. While the music and graphics isn't much to write home about the gameplay is excellent if you enjoy turn-based D&D rules. You even get a ship later in the game and are allowed to freely explore the inner solar system, fight turn-based ship-to-ship combats and even board enemy ships with your party.

Strongly recommended to any sci-fi fan, just don't be put off by it's graphics and sound. Give it a chance to grow on you.

[Anonymous No.1838265]

>>1836337
Stop trying so hard. We all played this game as kids, not gonna fall for this shit.

[Pythonshitscript No.1839075]

I tried to play this game once and it wasnt that good of a game. had a few redeeming qualities such as a tolerable soundtrack but the mechanics were shit. 3/10 for me

[Anonymous No.1839517]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaTQP4TNUYs

[Anonymous No.1839809]

Stunning graphics, good controls, fun gameplay and probably one of the most cool soundtracks that genesis ever showed, made by the man Jesper Kyd himself, although I must say that second half of the second level is complete bullshit that can easily scare away almost anyone who tries this game, ridiculous difficulty in general doesn't help it either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHgdgRBUKhU
Also, while talking about Kyd and his work I also need to call out two other games, the Red Zone, which is probably of the most ( if not the most ) graphically advanced games on system, has godlike soundtrack, but hard as nails, so does the third game on genesis, soundtrack of which is Jesper's work, the Sub-Terrania.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nueqyTUxbC0

[Anonymous No.1839828]

This is a fucking crime that this game is so under the radar! I loved playing this during my childhood and I still do! It was a little dark compared to the games I've played but I loved it anyways. The story was interesting, the controls were pretty smooth, and the missions could be a challenge if you're not prepared (especially if you want the real ending). Yeah, there were also multiple endings, if you fuck up, the game tells you that YOU FUCKED UP.

[Anonymous No.1839853]

>>1839809

This game has awesome arrangements for its soundtrack but theres segments that are just super scratchy and they make me cringe

[Anonymous No.1839864]

>>1836337

Played it after someone in /vr/ said something like this, it's far from being the best batman game, but it's far from being a horrible or unplayable game (I've only tested the Genesis version, don't know if the SNES one is like this). Could be the fact I've already played many really horrible games like Slaughter Sports on Genesis or US Gold game ports, but if I had to rate it won't put nothing below 5, it has its redeeming factors like the dark atmosphere. As the game play like Mortal Kombat, if someone made a hack like Mortal Kombat 2 Unlimited adding combos or changing the characters to make a game like Sub Zero Mythologies would be nice.

[Anonymous No.1839880]

>>1839517
That game was fun, but it was way too easy and pretty repetetive, even for a beat em up. Dat hilariously racist ending though.

[Anonymous No.1839921]

>>1839809
>posting music instead of gameplay footage which includes music

[Anonymous No.1839970]

love this game

[Anonymous No.1840123]

>>1835750
Funny thing is the game has such a bad reps because the first few level are pure fucking shit.

Then after that they introduce platforming and Batman can finally make use of his flying ability. Why the fuck did they not make the whole game like that? Now it has the reputation of sucking donkey's dick whereas it's actually far from being an extremely bad game like Say Alf on the master system.

[Anonymous No.1840189]

>>1839864
>(I've only tested the Genesis version, don't know if the SNES one is like this)
The SNES version looks and sounds better, but probably everything else about it is worse. It even has silent loading screens saying HOLD ON for a few seconds every time you more from room to room.

For the SNES, Batman Returns is a fun beat 'em up from Konami that looks and sounds lovely. By comparison, Batman Forever is an atrocity.

[Anonymous No.1840242]

Doesn't get enough attention compared to the other Treasure titles in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.1841590]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGjCyICTcP4

[Anonymous No.1841813]

>>1835750
Bullshit.
Go fuck yourself, fuckin' butthurt asshole!

[Anonymous No.1841861]

>>1835750
All Batman games were shit until Arkham Asylum.

[Anonymous No.1841893]

>>1841861
No love for sunsoft? I'm disappoint

[Anonymous No.1841898]

>>1841861
Batman for NES was a great game, fuck off with your ultimatums.

[Anonymous No.1841909]

>>1836337
I had the genesis version as a kid.

Got it for free with Kool Aid rewards points.

Sent it back and got my points back it was so fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.1842323]

>>1841861
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i380sW3DWuM

[Anonymous No.1842337]

Always looking for more PS1 hidden gems/underrated classics. Some that have stood out to me:
>No one can stop Mr Domino
Fun, nice concept, well put together, too hard and pretty short though.
>Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX
Always overlooked because of the superior Tony Hawks games, but this has good variety and secrets and 3 different groups of challenges for each level which is nice.
>Team Buddies
Good humour and emphasis on fun make this a must. Actual gameplay is somewhat repetitive but rewarding
>The Italian Job
A driving game based on little set pieces and stunts. Feels very satisfying to drive around in a mini, hopping across rooftops
>Lego Racers
Not as good as Crash Team Racing so was overlooked, but every level has a shortcut and they're fun to find and incorporate

[Anonymous No.1842740]

>>1841861

>Batman for MD, NES, SMS and PC-Engine
>shit

Okay, now you can continue watching your AVGN marathon.

[Anonymous No.1843009]

>>1839809
I thought the second level was bad, then I fought the Mad Hatter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADwRKud72g0

For those who haven't played, everything after the first wave of plates is randomized. There's no telling if he'll slow things down, speed things up, or just come to a stop. That also goes for the the plates as well.

[Anonymous No.1843672]

>>1839828
How are the other 2 games anon?

[Anonymous No.1843686]

>>1842337
thanks for these, just got a PS1 and am going to go flea market browsing this weekend to get some games for it, nice to know what to look out for besides commons and super rares.

[Anonymous No.1843701]

>>1843686
Team Buddies is super rare though. Good luck finding a good copy for under $150.

[Anonymous No.1844767]

>>1843686
They're personal taste rather than anything definitive. There's a LOT of obscure JRPGs for ps1 that I know nothing about but you might wanna look out for :)

[Anonymous No.1844783]

>>1842337

>The Italian Job

The idea is pretty good (as the movies), but it's not exactly well executed. Runabout series or World Scariest Police Chases perform better than it, IMO. It's a shame, it's a game I'd really want to like, even the PS2 version aren't that good.

[Anonymous No.1844848]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dnp6XdhkWY

[Anonymous No.1844938]

>>1835750

[Anonymous No.1846485]

This game doesn't get enough love. Loved this in the arcades and the SNES.

[Anonymous No.1846493]

>>1846485
That was a really fun one. I loved playing that at the local pizza place while waiting for our order.

[Anonymous No.1846498]

>>1844783
>Runabout series

I have no idea why I didn't hear about these games until like 2 years ago. They are absolutely nuts.

[Anonymous No.1846504]

>>1844848
I don't know if I'd call this underrated.
Castle of Illusion is pretty well known, it even got a re-imagining recently.

[Anonymous No.1846515]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF_5JuvmfFo

[Anonymous No.1848117]

Definitely a hidden gem.

[Anonymous No.1848195]

>>1846498

It's weird, I always heard about it (or Runabout or Felony 11-79), specially at the release of the DC version. Personally I never liked the PS1 versions so much, I have to play the DC and PS2 versions to have an opinion about the whole series.

[Anonymous No.1848213]

I guess Batman Forever is one of those "It's hated, so I pretend to like it to be hip" games.

[Anonymous No.1848218]

>>1842740
Batman on PC-Engine was just a Pac Man clone

[Anonymous No.1848239]

>>1848218
I'm skimming through a video of it. It's giving me a top-down Bonanza Brothers feel.

[Anonymous No.1848246]

>>1848239
It's just a really basic maze game.

[Anonymous No.1848257]

[Anonymous No.1848364]

Why.... Why 2 wasn't on super nintendo........

[Anonymous No.1848634]

[Anonymous No.1849890]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERRV7JmZk8

[Anonymous No.1851860]

bump

[Anonymous No.1853035]

Wouldn't really consider the game a classic. It had some neat ideas like incorporating fighting game mechanics into a beat em up but the game was obnoxiously repetitive and the fighting mechanics really show their flaw if you're fighting more than one guy at once. Like 90% of the time I just found myself uppercutting one guy and then turning around to uppercut the next and then again to the first guy after he gets back up.

[Anonymous No.1853062]

>>1842323
This.

[Anonymous No.1853068]

>>1842740
The konami developed Adventures of Batman and Robin on SNES was a pretty good adventure/platformer too.

[Anonymous No.1853082]

In a way, pretty much every great game for old systems that hasn't received new games. Things like dynamite headdy and mega turrican might be common knowledge to people around here, but not to the masses.

[Anonymous No.1853090]

>>1848213

Have you ever played it? The first two levels are uber crap and the gameplay is still bad but it gets better after that. Sure if you played it as a kid and never got back to it it sucks.

The circus level is kinda cool. Far from being the worst game of all times but it's less then decent. The interface and weapons choice are kinda cool too. Plus in Multiplayer you get a lot of characters.

[Anonymous No.1853203]

>>1842337

lego racers is a dkr clone

I love how the best boost is a teleporter

[Anonymous No.1853373]

>>1848364
wow
it had cutscenes

[Anonymous No.1855484]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uRr450-uLQ

[Anonymous No.1857038]

>>1835750
Twinkle Tale

[Anonymous No.1857048]

>>1835750
Credit is given where credit is due, come round again and you'll get yours too.

[Anonymous No.1857065]

>>1846504
A terrible re-imagining too. So fucking disappointing.

[Anonymous No.1857072]

>>1836398
Though not the best in the series and not sanctioned by Kojima, it's still pretty awesome and features some of the best music in the series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsctFJXHjjE&feature=youtu.be&t=1m
Best to view its setting and story as some of Snake's drunken rants at an Alaskan bar, shortly after a solitary action movie marathon.

Oh, and pic related. One of the top three games in the series imo.

[Joseph Joestar No.1857093]

>>1857072
Side-scrolling parts are pretty raw, but the game's pretty wild, and as you mentioned the soundtrack is fantastic. A lot of people give it shit that it doesn't deserve.

[Anonymous No.1857228]

>>1857072
I wish I got smokes with my copy of MGS.

[Anonymous No.1857237]

>>1857072
Ghost Babel is damn good.

[Anonymous No.1857256]

>>1857072
> box factory
> god damn box factory
Perfect pic. Perfect.

[Anonymous No.1858223]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGguuW3Cmg