/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1831481]

What did you guys think of the ESRB, or your equivalent, when it popped up?

[Anonymous No.1831484]

I thought it was cool because it pointed me directly to all the badass games with blood and gore and sex.

[Anonymous No.1831492]

>>1831484
And then you could buy them in your normal store no problem at all.

K-A games always appealed to me far more though.

[Anonymous No.1831523]

It's a way for overprotective mother hens to dictate how much fun their children are allowed to have.

In short, it is cancer.

[Anonymous No.1831545]

>>1831523
>blood and gore=fun

[Anonymous No.1831569]

>>1831545
>DOOM =/= fun
Are you trying to imply this?

[Anonymous No.1831573]

>>1831545

doom isnt fun because it has blood and gore, it's fun because it's fun

there were lots of really bad M-rated games around the time this stuff came out. Shitty FMV games and endless mortal kombat knockoffs, etc.

[Anonymous No.1831578]

>>1831573
Right, and it's an M-rated game, so kids can't buy it. I really don't see the point you're trying to make, especially considering I never mentioned that blood and gore are what makes a game fun.

[Anonymous No.1831581]

>>1831545
Duke Nukem 3D = fun
Crusader: No Remorse = fun
Dungeon Keeper = fun

Bubsy = not fun
SNES Family Feud = not fun
Tyndale New Media Mcgee's Kids' Bible = not fun

[Anonymous No.1831604]

>>1831545
10/10

[Anonymous No.1831607]

>>1831481
It was a necessity after the Night Trap debacle, and our main defense against those who blame every new entertainment medium(like they did with rock music) for killings and school shootings.

[Anonymous No.1831614]

>>1831581
>SNES Family Feud = not fun

Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.1831619]

It meant I had to drag my parents to the store if I wanted something M rated

I shit you not the first thing I did when I turned 18 was go to gamestop and buy the first M rated thing I found

[Anonymous No.1831626]

>>1831607
>Night Trap
It was more because of MK.

[Anonymous No.1831627]

My older sister is super protective over me, so she refused to let me play games that were M rated. She would even follow me to game store and tell the clerk that I'm not allowed to buy M rated games.
I had to ninja my way to the vidya shop and buy the games I wanted. She would always do the stupid
>if all your friends jumped off the roof, would you jump after them? :^)
as if I bought those games to impress my friends. I liked those games because I liked them.

This blog post is dedicated to all those kids who missed all those great games thanks to ESRB rating and overprotective siblings/parents.

[Anonymous No.1831628]

>>1831481
I remember the N64 games having ELSPA ratings, whatever that was. I got pic related when I was 8 years old so nobody actually paid any attention to the ratings.

[Anonymous No.1831642]

>>1831628
Only when ELSPA was replaced by PEGI/BBFC/USK in 2003 did distrubutors start caring about them. I'm not sure about Germany though, as they were the leading cause of many games getting censored long before that.(like Contra/Probotector, where they replaced humans with robots)

[Anonymous No.1831654]

>>1831619
What game was it?

[Anonymous No.1831672]

Was never an issue for me. My parents knew I wasn't a fucking idiot who would copy what he saw on TV or video games.

[Anonymous No.1831743]

>>1831569
Wow, your trolling is beyond just shit and into a whole new realm of awful. It's so bad I can't even report it as shitposting because it's too brilliantly idiotic to call it mere shitposting.

Bravo, sir, you have transcended the boundaries of stupid.

[Anonymous No.1831748]

I was relieved - I already knew about the efforts to try and censor games here in MURKA so when I heard that the industry was trying to keep itself reined in I was pleased, because it meant that bullshit wasn't going to fly.

And this was years before I had ever taken a civics class, mind you.

[Anonymous No.1831768]

It's fine. It's there so people can't sue video game companies for corrupting their children. Although they still certainly try. You have idiot parents that will buy GTA for their kids, and then get upset at what the game is about, and blame the store, the company, devil music, etc. Most parents would just take the game away, but some will call up whoever, and game stores and companies obviously don't want to deal with that shit.

It's a necessity as video games grew. Same with ratings for movies and television.

And if your parents didn't allow you to play M rated games, if ratings didn't exist, you think they would still allow you to play them? Probably not.

I had it pretty good though, I guess. Parents were very conservative, but they bought me Mortal Kombat when I turned 4. If they had not allowed me certain games, I'd probably hate the ratings system too.

[Anonymous No.1831780]

>>1831768
They wouldn't win anyway, and they would be more likely to be jailed for contempt of court, wasting the court's time, and be stuck with the legal fees of a rather large company which would throw them out of their house and onto the streets.

[Anonymous No.1831815]

>>1831780
You're right, but that's still a bit of time and money wasted on the companies part.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't need it, since parents would make informed and reasonable decisions of what their kids can play.

It's basically a safety net. It's the same reason some games get censored. It's not because of some moral decision to not want kids to see tits or whatever, it's them not wanting to deal with the people that would complain about it or possibly take legal action.

And not every company is large enough to be able to to just deal with it. Especially back in those days.

[Anonymous No.1831862]

>>1831627
>if all your friends jumped off the roof, would you jump after them? :^)
"Depends. Did the people who jump off survive and say they enjoy it? I find it hard to believe every single one of my friends would jump off of a roof, let alone get on it in the first place, unless they had a very good reason.

I want these games because people say they're fun and don't seem to cause adverse affects. If jumping off a roof was said to be fun and there were no broken bones or deaths due to it, I would jump off the roof."

This was always my response. Worked fine.
I never really had trouble with ESRB because my dad was very uncaring about it. My mom was like "DAT GAMES RATED TEEE" and my dad let me play Duke Nukem with the boobies turned on.

Good times.

[Anonymous No.1832040]

I fucking hate the ESRB,

Reminds me of days when I wasn't allowed to play M rated games at the age of freaking 15 and 16. I am glad I am adult and don't have to deal with that shit now. It doesn't matter, I played M games behind my parents back and while I was caught a few times. Nothing bad happened, just lost the computer/console I was playing on a few times for a bit.

>>1831581

Actually there are tons of good E rated and T rated games. Mario and Zelda are prime examples.

[Anonymous No.1832071]

>GA
>Appropriate for all audiences
>logo dripping blood into a pool in the title screen
>start game
>carrion eating guts off the floor
>all audiences
LOL

[Anonymous No.1832072]

Felt like a natural progression and probably saved the medium from censorship.

[Anonymous No.1832080]

ESRB was, and is, excellent.

By rating games, you let them know exactly what audience it's for. The only way I could see it bugging you is if a) You're literally underaged or b) you don't like being carded, which really isn't an issue when you're grown considering beer, cigarettes, and porn all require you to be of age anyway.

[Anonymous No.1832126]

I'm not sure if anybody cared about the USK in retro times. You had to look very carefully to see if a game was rated for all ages or 16+.
The main force to be reckoned with was the BPJS, now BPJM, who could ban or restrict games. At first they applied this to simple shooting games like River Raid but as games evolved they became more picky. They're the reason why games had humans replaced with robots and the like.
The system changed in 2003 after a school shooting which was publicly blamed on Counterstrike. The BPJM surprisingly choose not to restrict Counterstrike and new laws were passed that gave the USK more weight.

[Anonymous No.1832181]

>>1831581
>SNES Family Feud = not fun

you take that back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5tyMXXDPX4

you totally take that back

[Anonymous No.1832190]

>>1832071
yeah! and yet Mega Man Wily Wars was rated MA13.. even though its just an enhanced version of an 8bit engine incapable of detailed violence, and you're merely shooting energy balls at robots.. go figure

[Anonymous No.1832213]

>>1832190
>>1832071
Hard Corps was MA-13 also despite not really being THAT violent (You're just shooting robots and the death animations are just you falling down). Also, Snatcher getting a T rating despite showing Jean's decapitated body.

[Anonymous No.1832321]

>>1831484

Spoken like a true middle schooler

[Anonymous No.1832328]

>>1831578

As an adult you should realize by now ratings are needed. Not every kid can handle M games, especially the under 10 ones.

[Anonymous No.1832338]

My parents didn't care but I was vigilant to the rules. I only had one or two mild T rated games in my youth and the only M rated one was Mortal Kombat, which my parents like to play anyway.

[Anonymous No.1833341]

How about Australia where it took them 15 years to get a PEGI 18 equivalent and they still refuse some games. Chirst, they make Americans look like Belgians.

[Anonymous No.1833450]

>>1832080
I've never been carded for cigarettes and only a few times for beer, but every time I try to get a M-rated game I'm carded.