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Doom thread, (Last thread >>1778908)
(other retro FPS games also welcome, chances are we played 'em too)

FAQ/Pastebin, still updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3

======WEBSITE======
http://vrdoom.weebly.com/

===COMMUNITY===
##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

IRC (The password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

===TUTORIALS AND UTILITIES===

Wanna learn...

More about Doom? Check the OFFICIAL Doom Wiki!
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Entryway

To create maps?
http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=tutorials

To open/Edit WADs/PK3/etc for mod compatibility?
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads (download 3.1.0)
http://zdoom.org/wiki

How to load multiple WADS and mods at the same time? - ZDL (v3.2.2.2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?eq4zyb6k8c0o6nc

===WADS===
/idgames torrent (as of Nov.25, 2013; 12 GBs of wads, 18 years worth of user-made content!)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

Vanilla/Boom related projects can be found here
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/

ZDoom mods/projects can be found here
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19

>> No.1781661

***************
NEWS
***************

-Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

-hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

-Here's a cool online radio that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE.

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y [Do nothing]

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

>> No.1781665

>>1781639
the Belphegors are the big Centaurs right?

>> No.1781667

And who is this Five guy?

>> No.1781668

>>1781667
since IMX ran to the hills, I guess I'm doing thread posting

the trip is for filtering purposes, mainly

>> No.1781670

>>1781667
A very shit gum. Either that or a good spice.

>> No.1781671

is this where all the cool kids post? :v

>> No.1781672
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>> No.1781675

>>1781667
3 AINT NUFF MAN I NEED 5

>> No.1781676

>>1781671
Nope. In fact, you have now been completely stripped of any coolness you once had.

Enjoy!

>> No.1781678
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>>1781668
>he ran to the hills

he ran for his life?
he took his ball for his own needs?

>> No.1781679 [DELETED] 

>>1781671
Nope, just the /vg/ rejects.

>> No.1781681

>>1781672
>That TV remote on the bed.
TECHNOLOGY

>> No.1781682

>>1781676
aww man

>> No.1781683

>>1781658
>not "get me out of this crazy ass crystal prison"

>> No.1781684

>>1780775
It was okay. For your first time at anything an "okay" is great though. Complaints as follows.

The 'pickup an item, and a monster pops up behind you' is overdone. Everyone can see it coming, it isn't scary nor surprising nor interesting anymore. The same goes for the specter in the dark hallway.

The level feels too clean and artificial. Like if Hell decided to invade but was extra careful not to break anything or get dirt on the nice shiny floor.

The ledge near the chair (nice chair BTW, comfiest thing I've ever seen in a WAD) can't be dropped off of.

>> No.1781686

Hey did anyone make any mods here that they didn't release?

I just spent good 2 months making one, but I didn't credit shit and I'm too lazy to start. It's nothing particularly special either but I think it turned out ok.

>> No.1781689
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1781689

:: [BE] Montreal :: FRIDAY NIGHT FRAGFEST #227: 32IN24-13 METROID DREADNOUGHT DM!

YO, LET'S HUNT

>> No.1781692

>>1781689
can you spectate stuff in first person?

>> No.1781694

>>1781692
Pressing F12 does that.

>> No.1781695

>>1781692
Hit F12.

>> No.1781696

>>1781686
yep. Genesis Saga: Aurora. Canned it so quick thanks to it being so shit.

>> No.1781697

>>1781694
>>1781695
Thanks anons.

>> No.1781698

>>1781665
the one that looks like Motaro?

>> No.1781701

>>1781686
>Hey did anyone make any mods here that they didn't release?
that's pretty much the entirety of my modding career

>> No.1781704

So I've been on a retro FPS spree lately. Beat Duke Nukem 3D (vanilla+The Birth), than Quake I.

Tried Blood, but the screwball mouselook makes it a pain in the ass, and I can't get Bmouse to work.

Tried Doom I but, it just isn't as fun for me as Quake and Duke. Too much running back and forth to get the keys, to unlock a door to get another key.

Tried Quake II, it looks great, but holy shit, every enemy is a fucking bullet-sponge. Everything takes too damn long to kill.

So what should I play next?

>> No.1781706

>>1781704
What doesn't work about bmouse? It's also worth pointing out that you can edit the dosbox startup config for Blood and have it do 'bmouse launch blood.exe' and then pause. There's a GOG thread about helping out with that.

>> No.1781708

>>1781704

Unreal or Wolfenstein.

>> No.1781718

>>1781704
>Tried Doom I but, it just isn't as fun for me as Quake and Duke

You faggot, how fucking dare you have an opinion. If you liked Quake and Duke, then try Unreal next, since it's basically a stylistic successor to those.

>> No.1781721

How the fuck do I play doom on Xubuntu 14.04?

This shit's an absolute pain, I just want to shoot demons

>> No.1781724
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>>1781686

>> No.1781726

>>1781724
HOLY SHIT FINISH THIS MARK PLEASE

>> No.1781729

>>1781724
Wow, holy shit. This looks amazing.

>> No.1781735

>>1781724
damn.

hold on, wasn't a radar like that missing from another project?

>> No.1781737

>>1781724
This looks neat.

>> No.1781740

>>1781724
is that a famas

>> No.1781750

>>1781740
Plasma Gun from the Aliens series

>> No.1781752

Dont we have an image for the /vr/ Gauntlet?

TEST YOUR MIGHT
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?random

>> No.1781761

>>1781706
Well shit, I spent an hour today typing 'bmouse launch blood.exe' into Boxer over and over when I just needed to launch bmouse and THEN type launch blood.exe.

>> No.1781763

>>1781658
reposting from previous thread:

It looks like the top 100 wads in the pastebin has been flagged as malicious. Is there a reason for this?

>> No.1781773

>>1781763
In Chrome or Firefox? Firefox isn't reporting malicious anything.

Filesmelt should be fine; it's likely some idiot uploaded viruses to it or something and got it flagged, though.

The ZIP itself is fine.

>> No.1781779
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1781779

Hey guys, Doombro here! Hope you're all having a good evening!

I made a new comic, enjoy! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

>> No.1781780
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1781780

>>1781779

ahahahahah

>> No.1781789

>>1781779
Flying Revenant doom mod when?

>> No.1781790

>>1781779
fukken saved

>> No.1781792

>>1781779
>How to kill yourself
>Protip: Shoot at yourself until you die
Damn it Gamepro

>> No.1781793

>>1781779
Poor Doomguy, will never catch a break.

Also it's nice to see new comics, I thought you were done for good.

>> No.1781795
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>>1781779
Second panel
Bottom right

>> No.1781797

>>1781773
ah sweet thanks, chrome kept telling me it was malicious but I'll try firefox now.

>> No.1781801
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1781801

>>1781793
I'm never done bro.

>> No.1781815

>>1781750
M4A1 Pulse rifle, you god damned dolt.

>>1781724
Okay Mark, you have my attention. Link please? At least to that glorious map.

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>>1781779

>> No.1781853

>>1781795
>>1780227

>> No.1781865

>>1781686
Just release it anonymously.

>> No.1781868

>>1781704
>screwball mouselook

It has the same mouse support as every other Build game, what the hell are you talking about?

>> No.1781902
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>>1781801

/r/ing salami for proof

>> No.1781906

>>1781902
Duke and BJ?

>> No.1781914
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1781914

>>1781902

But he just posted proof in the form of a new comic?

>> No.1781918

>>1781906

Duke and Doomguy

>>1781914

Small joke, Persian stuff e.t.c. never mind me

>> No.1781925

>>1781918
Oh I can see it now.

The lighting made me think the hair was much more orange so I thought it was BJ.

>> No.1781929

>>1781868
I played Duke with eduke32 which has 'modern' mouselook built-in.

Vanilla build engine running out of Dos-box has something along the lines of the following written into its mouselook (or so says the Bmouse guy at least).

if (abs(control.axes[0])>abs(control.axes[1]))
control.axes[1]/=3;
else
control.axes[0]/=3;

If I move the mouse to the north-west, I want my aim to move north AND west, not north OR west.

>> No.1781945
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1781945

Guys, I'm playing brutal doom on a fresh install of ubuntu, and I can't get brutal doom to work. The wads load up just fine, even tried to set it to detect the brutal_v017.pk3 file in the zdoom.ini but still no joy in that regard.

How do I fix the matter?

>> No.1781947

Just want to say that the guys posting critiques of the maps people upload are really cool.

I haven't tried making my own map yet (too intimidated), but I think it's great that people can post on here and be honestly critiqued. The suggestions are phenomenal; I'm blown away by how different /vr/doom/ is than a lot of the other parts of 4chan.

Thanks.

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1781950

Is there a reason why I can't connect to a server? It says I have a different version but I do not know what is it talking about.
pic related

>> No.1781953

>>1781947
/vr/ in general is pretty chill for the most part.

>> No.1781959

>>1781945
Make a skins folder in your ZDoom directory and put it in there

>> No.1781960
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1781960

Are there any doom wads with a focus on vertical combat? I want to climb the outside of buildings, beating the shit out of cyberdemons, trying either to kick them off or not fall off, and then jump to a neighbouring building to shake them off.

>> No.1781962

>>1781950
>I have a different version

..Then get the newest version at zandronum.com

>> No.1781965

>>1781950
Okay. So you go to Zandronum's site, right?

And you see that new release? You download it.

>> No.1781971

>>1781960
You could play Hellbound with jumping and shit.

Or Metroid with it's walljumps.

Or Cyberrunner.

>> No.1781980

>>1781945
>brutal_v017
unrelated to your problem, but upgrade your shit mang

>> No.1781992

>>1781658
I heard that the announcement for the PS4 and Xbone versions of D44M was booed by the audience. Is this true?

>> No.1781996

>>1781704
>Too much running back and forth to get the keys, to unlock a door to get another key.

But Duke 3D does exactly this aswell...

>> No.1782012

>>1781672
What megawad is that from again? I vaguely remember it.

>> No.1782013

Is there any way to get the old Skulltag announcer for Zandronum?

>> No.1782016

What are some essential WADs? I've only played Doom 1 + 2 and NRFTL

>> No.1782017

>>1781959
I'm using gzdoom, should I create a skins folder in that folder?

>> No.1782019

>>1782013
google 'skulltag 98a announcer' there should be a forum post on the zandronum forums with a link to them

>> No.1782021

>>1781996
>But Duke 3D does exactly this aswell...
True, but Duke made it fun. There is so much more stuff in Duke that it makes it seem more like fun exploration rather than obnoxious backtracking.

>Destroy the grand canyon by kicking over a sign!
>Demolish a building!
>Cause a nuclear power plant to melt down!

vs.

>Grab key 1
>Unlock door 1
>Grab key 2
>Unlock door 2
>Grab key 3
>Unlock door 3

>> No.1782023

>>1781959

DO NOT DO THIS
DO NOT EVER FUCKING DO THIS

>> No.1782028
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1782028

>>1782013

you just reminded me how this picture isn't even that relevant anymore

>>1782023

wait, weren't you expecting this to happen in this place sooner or later?

>> No.1782036

>>1782023
Why not?

>> No.1782043

>>1782028
>tfw I'm the only one who likes the new announcer better
Seriously, I feel like I'm in a fucked up gameshow. I wish he'd say I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR.

>> No.1782047

>>1782043

at the beginning of its conception Zandro had this GODFUCKINGAWFUL announcer that it forced everyone to go back to the Quake 3 knockoff

I'm not sure if you're talking about that one

>> No.1782048

>>1782016
Plutonia
TNT Evilution
Aliens-TC
Icarus
Eternal Doom
Hell Revealed
Batman Doom
Twilight Warrior
Demonfear
Herian 2
ZanZan
Equinox
RTC-3057
Action Doom
Phocas Island 2
Phobia: The Age
Zen Dynamics
Epic 2

>> No.1782050

>>1782036
The skins folder will always auto-load wads in it

This can cause problems when joining servers

>> No.1782057

>>1782050
Why havent they fixed that yet?

I've got tons of skins and I cant use any of them when I join servers.
Skins worked better in Skulltag

>> No.1782059

>>1782016
Back to Saturn X
Scythe 2
Deus Vult 2
Plutonia 2

>> No.1782060

>>1782050

that's not the main reason. still a valid one, anyway

>> No.1782061

>>1782047
Link? For completion.

>> No.1782064

>>1781721
install windows

>> No.1782068

>This weeks Fragfest is Metroid
It hurts to live.

>> No.1782071

>>1781779

Fuck you I just got awkward looks in the break room because I snorted my cola

>> No.1782072
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1782072

Is there a mod for Doom 3 BFG edition that makes the shotgun not a piece of shit? I know there are some for the original Doom 3 but I'm not sure they will work with BFG Edition.

>> No.1782073

>>1782050
Well he's playing a single player game and he can always just take it out when he doesn't need it

So shut up.

>>1781721
Download ZDoom ubuntu binary, go to the directory from your command line and write "./zdoom".

>> No.1782080

>>1782072
A: Why the hell did you buy BFG edition when EVERYONE would tell you not to?
B: Mods don't work with BFG edition.

>> No.1782087

>>1782057
>Why havent they fixed that yet?

They can't fix you putting something other than a fucking skin in the skins folder.
I guess the only way to fix that would be like how you fix a dog.

>> No.1782090

>>1782080
I pirated BFG Edition, I thought it was just an updated version of Doom 3.
>Mods don't work with BFG edition.
Son of a bitch, guess I'll go get my doom 3 disc. Thanks anyway.

>> No.1782092

>>1782068

Do you have a problem with this, anon?

>> No.1782096

>>1782087
Obviously I meant that using skins on Zandronum at all doesnt seem to work for me.

>> No.1782098

>Doom 2
>Revenants have two missile launchers
>They only shoot one

D R O P P E D

Any mods that fix this?

>> No.1782101

>>1782057
maybe you're joining the wrong servers. Brutal doom, shotgun frenzy, complex doom all prevent most skins from being used.

>> No.1782103

>>1782096
Skins work fine for me, so not sure what's going on with you.

>> No.1782112

>>1782098
One shoulder has seeking missiles, the other regular ones.
Stop being so damn autistic.

>> No.1782116

>>1782112

How do you know? Are you a revenant?

>> No.1782118
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1782118

>>1781929

I just tried playing vanilla Dook with verticle mouselook and the problem you're describing isn't even noticeable.

>playing Build games vertical mouselook in the first place when they auto-aim on the vertical axis

Pleb.

>stopping at Atomic Edition and not playing the expansions

Double pleb.

>> No.1782121

>>1782098
I've been playing DoomRLA with it's monster mod. Revenants in that mod have 3 different missile attacks. One faster missile that doesn't track you, a slower one that tracks, and rarely they'll fire fast, non-tracking missiles from both shoulders. That one tends to kill me most of the time when it catches me off guard.

There are also Heavy Revenants, which only have one large launcher that fires a single tracking missile that does tons of damage, and Nightmare Revenants, that fire pairs of non-tracking skull projectiles.

>> No.1782129

>>1782043
I like the new announcer too.

>>1782047
The excited announcer?

>> No.1782132

>>1782112
Yes.
Nightmare revenant and heavy revenant from doomRLA monster pack are "fixed". Nightmare fires two projectiles, heavy has assimetrical shoulders and fires a huge missile from her only launcher.

>> No.1782136

>>1782098
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/doubleagitator.pk3
just 4 u anon

>> No.1782138

>>1782048
>>1782059
But why are these essential, just giving him a long list isn't too helpful.

>no Ultimate Simplicity
plebs

>> No.1782139

Would anyone be willing to buy me Doom II while it's on sale? I haven't played since I was a kid, and I want to into Doom again. It's only a 1.24 and if I can I'll give you the money I have in my steam wallet to put the price under a dollar

>> No.1782143

FIVE MINUTE WARNING

>> No.1782145

>>1782098
fractal doom

soon pirata cosmico

>> No.1782146

>>1782139
Just read the faq dude. It's all there

>> No.1782147

>>1782139
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdl2pbv0vfv0b6n
just 4 u anon

>> No.1782148

>>1782138
>long list
>20 wads

>> No.1782149

>>1782139
how about reading the FAQ in the OP?

>> No.1782154

>>1782147
oh boy

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>> No.1782206

>>1782139
>Buying DooM
Where do you think that cash will be going, my cute little anon?

>> No.1782215

>>1782148
I mean he probably wanted to know what makes those WADs worth playing. If he just wanted a list he could have used google.

>> No.1782219

>>1782215
or the damn frontend

>> No.1782226

>>1781704
If you didn't enjoy the key hunting in Doom then stay away from Shadow Warrior.

>> No.1782227

>>1782219

which doesn't work in XP

>> No.1782235
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1782235

Are there any doom wads about crime fighting in big cities?

>> No.1782238

I have a few questions.

Was Eriguns ever finished?
How about Crossfire?
Has Project MSX been updated?

>> No.1782239
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1782239

Some Doom 4 details I found in pic related.

Sounds much better than I had hoped for, however there's one thing that nags at me. They never once mentioned 'level design' in their list which is of course absolutely imperative to a good Doom game. I really hope this game isn't linear but I doubt it.

Having loads of enemies on screen also sounds good to me a la Doom II and Final, but I hope they're not taking the Serious Sam approach.

Developers these days seem to not know what 'retro' actually means, judging by that recent Shadow Warrior reboot. They think it just means throwing a fuck load of spawning enemies at you and facing wave after wave of them when that's really not what it was about at all. It was about may things but one which was absolutely key was good, non-linear level design. Level design is truly an art in itself by making sure it's balanced with health/ammo pick-ups etc and by thoughtfully placing enemies to come up with interesting gameplay situations. I just hope it's not some linear shitfest and you enter a room to be taking on wave after wave of spawning enemies like the Shadow Warrior reboot was. We'll just have to see.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/doom-4-showcased-on-pc-first-details-from-quakecon-31440750/

>> No.1782240

>>1782235
Action Doom 2

>> No.1782246

>>1782227
who cares about xp

>> No.1782249

>>1782235
BatmanDoom

>> No.1782252

>>1782246

Who cares about Doom
Who cares about playing videogames past the 20s

>> No.1782254

>>1782239
Also smart enemy usage and positioning.

>> No.1782259

>>1782239
Preaching to the choir man. Pretty much everyone here is concerned about the same thing.

>> No.1782262

>>1782239
I'm trying to remain cautiously optimistic about this. A lot of what I've heard about it sounds amazing on paper, but it'd be so easy to fuck up in execution. The hand scanner and karate, for example. I really just hope you don't pick up a berserk pack and become Neo

>> No.1782265

>>1782239
I do not really expect level design to take a priority for this next Doom game.

If the fights are interesting enough I can overlook it.

If Doom 4 is moddable then maybe even the community can pick up the slack.

>> No.1782285

>>1782139
Don't bother because only Zenimax/Bethesda gets your shekels.

>> No.1782286

>>1782239
I don't know why this detail keeps getting ignored, but colored keys and doors are confirmed

When was the last time a linear shooter had keys for anything, let alone colored keys? Exactly

>> No.1782294

>>1781667
A damn good burger place.

>> No.1782295
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>>1781902
Sorry bud, I was at the gym.

Here's salami! I'm surprised people have caught on to salami.png

>> No.1782297

>>1782098

I made it so revenants fire 2, but one is gauranteed not to seek

seemed pretty fair, have both seek and you really have to mess with the damage

>> No.1782315

>>1782098
Hard Doom

>> No.1782323

Anyone else have a hard time emulating Doom for Sega Saturn? I like that version cause that's what I played as a kid, don't judge me.

>> No.1782346

Playing Doom 2 for my first time, using the Brutal Doom mod.

I'm getting my ass kicked playing on the default difficult setting. Should I lower the difficulty since I've never played Doom 2 before and don't know any of the secrets, or do I just need to git gud?

>> No.1782349

>>1782346
You just need to use corners a bit more often for corner shots.

Brutal Doom hurts the player much more than vanilla Doom so you will feel fragile if you aren't paying attention.

The most dangerous enemies are going to be the Shotgunguys.

>> No.1782356

>>1782346
>Playing Doom 2 for my first time, using the Brutal Doom mod.
Eeeeh. Whatever floats your boat I guess but imo you should be trying minor enhancement mods if it's your first time.
As for your question, remember to strafe like a mofo when fighting, and pay attention so you find some secrets. If you still find it too hard drop a difficulty.

>> No.1782360

>>1782356

I played Doom 1 vanilla. Maybe I'll just play Doom 1 Brutal Doom, since Doom 2 is 2hard4me. Seriously, level 2 is making me feel like I'm playing the FPS version of Super Meat Boy.

>> No.1782362

>>1782360
Level 2 is pretty rough in BD because of the abundance of shotgun guys.

>> No.1782363

>>1782265
I hope Doom 4 is moddable, but I half-expect that it won't be.

>> No.1782364

>>1782346
Don't play Brutal Doom if you've never played Doom 2 before. Just play Doom 2 without gameplay mods first.

>> No.1782365

>>1782362
Don't forget doom 1 mancubus level

Holy fuuuuuck

I got THIS close to savescumming

>> No.1782368
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>>1782346
>Playing Doom 2 for my first time, using the Brutal Doom mod.

Welcome to the community. Hope you enjoy it, and stay a spell. Feel free to pop in the IRC in the OP if you have any further questions.
We've had 20 years of community content, after Brutal Doom hopefully you'll be interested in checking out some other quality mods the community's put out.

And if things get too difficult, don't worry about lowering the difficulty. The default was made for the average player, and if it's your first time then you are definitely not the average player.

>> No.1782371

>>1782368
Is Doom 2 Reloaded really that noteworthy? I found it pretty boring myself.

>> No.1782380

>>1782371

It's probably the best take on "remake Doom 2" than anything else I've played, and especially leagues better than D2TWID.

>> No.1782387

>>1782380
>especially leagues better than D2TWID.

I disagree. I actually quite liked D2TWID.
But eh, Doom 2 Reloaded at least not as bad as D2INO which felt extremely inconsistent.

>> No.1782393

>>1782387
>I actually quite liked D2TWID.

Yeah well you can take that opinion and just keep it because it's perfectly fine.

>> No.1782394

I must be like the only person who actually sets cl_maxdecals 0 in my (g)zdoom. Only ever turn it on for BDSE

>> No.1782397

>>1782365
Doom 2 you mean?
>>1782362
>>1782360
Yep, 3 too iirc.
>>1782393
Nigga you are burning out the joke.

>> No.1782398

>>1782397
Oh god i'm starting to mix up doom 1 and 2 levels

I see them as one long ass game

what's wrong with me?

>> No.1782406

>>1782394
Doesn't seem to work, blood decals still spawn.

>> No.1782415

>>1782406
Are you sure you typed it in correctly? I just tested to make sure I didn't mistype, and it worked for me.

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>>1782406
This is me with it on 4096

>> No.1782429

>>1782415
Yep. Using BDSE, it doesn't work.
What build do you have? Latest stable?

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>>1782406
>>1782427

And this is my with it set to 0.

>> No.1782431

>>1782429
I said I only have it on for BDSE.

>> No.1782436

>>1782098

>wanting the skeleton menace to have more fire power

the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.1782439

>>1782436

We have Revenants with Jepacks already. Your resistance is futile

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>>1782436

I like the Revenants so I made them fire two at once, move faster, and got rid of their melee.

>> No.1782445
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>>1782439

I'M ONTO YOU, YOU BONEY FUCK.

>> No.1782446

uh oh

houston, there's some shit going on

>> No.1782454

Why are there Doom 2 remakes with the same engine?

I never played Doom 2 but love Doom 1... does Doom 2 have bad/confusing level design or something?

>> No.1782457

>>1782454

Doom 2's levels starts getting...very bad, especially at the midway point of the game.

>> No.1782460

>>1782431
I know but I thought it would work with it too.
Oh well.

>> No.1782463

>>1782380
I really dug D2TWID (though I still have the icon of sin level to go through. A quick sprint til dead run leads me to believe it's kinda clusterfucked.

But yeah. Overall felt a lot like Doom 2, Though not as close as DTWID did

>> No.1782468

>>1782457
I dunno, Save for the pile of Vomit that is Nirvana, I consider Doom 1's Inferno maps to be far worse than anything in Doom 2.

>> No.1782469
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>>1782439
Soon, the world will know the true main character of Doom: the Revenant.

>> No.1782475

>>1782469

sweet mother of gamma

>> No.1782481

>>1782469
The main character of doom is 200 revenants and one arch-vile

>> No.1782487

>>1782481
>a mod where you play as the archvile, trying to keep up with resurrecting 200 Revenants against the killing machine that is Doomguy

hmmm

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>>1782481
I know that team combat is popular these days but this just seems unmanagable

>> No.1782493

>>1781658
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/18/doom-was-revealed-to-counter-fears-of-trouble-at-id-software-public-reveal-unlikely-this-year/

I didn't see this mentioned in the Doom 4 faq, and "no information until 2015" feels kind of important

>> No.1782495

>>1782493
I don't understand.

If the reveal was received positively then why won't they show it off to more people?
There's still fears that it isn't handled that well.

>> No.1782502

>>1782495
I'm honestly not sure, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. Unless they don't want the entire internet to nitpick every frame to find problems.

>> No.1782505

>>1782469
>bottom right
what
why

>> No.1782508

>>1782495
It will have more mystique to it that way, I guess. Remember back when all you had were magazines and maybe some rummors on the BBS about it and then suddenly it appeared and the university servers crashed because everyone tried to jump on it simultaneously.

I missed out on that action. Probably for the best as that 386SX just couldn't hack it.

>> No.1782516

>>1782502
>>1782495
What the people saw behind the black curtan was a prescripted vertical slice, that will be nothing like the final product

>> No.1782521

>>1782516
Apparently there was an actual demo that could be played.

>> No.1782525

>>1782457

I guess I'll do a replay of Doom 1 instead then. Every half decade or so I get an itch to play through at least the first episode of Doom 1, I'm feeling that itch now and was considering trying Doom 2 my first time.

In all honesty, however, I don't think I have the patience anymore for levels that are too maze-y and confusing. I like non-linear levels, but not if they're easy to get lost in.

>> No.1782528

>>1782457
I think it dips in quality at maps 9, then 18 and 19, then 22-28.

Map 15 is okay.

>> No.1782538

Got doom today to relive childhood. I'm using gzdoom. recommend some gameplay mods? I want to be able to look up and down and stuff. Also, how can I make my health and armor and ammo come up on the screen? I've beaten the game before, so should I just play with brutal doom?

>> No.1782543

>>1782525
The middle levels are kind of bad but the rest is pretty decent, specially considering you have new enemies and shit.

>> No.1782547

>>1782538
>recommend some gameplay mods?
See
>>1782368

>> No.1782548

>>1782538
>I want to be able to look up and down and stuff.
Enable freelook in the mouse options.
>mods
See >>1782368
>brutal doom
Do as you please.
>Also, how can I make my health and armor and ammo come up on the screen?
They shouldn't be hidden by default. Try pressing -

>> No.1782549

>>1782525
Just try it. Noone will force you to finish it, and if you don't want to try some mulligan wads.

>> No.1782550

>>1782548
>>1782547
Cool, thanks. That's a really helpful picture too, I'll save that.

>> No.1782552

>>1782538
>recommend some gameplay mods?
GMOTA
Project MSX
Metroid Dreadnought
Accessories to Murder
Hideous Destructor (warning: plays absolutely nothing like vanilla Doom. Do not attempt unless you're interested in TECHNOLOGY and getting your ass kicked.)
>I want to be able to look up and down and stuff.
It's in GZDoom's options menu, under mouse controls.
>Also, how can I make my health and armor and ammo come up on the screen?
press the + and - keys until the HUD is to your liking.

>> No.1782558
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Give me all the Revenant fanart that you have

>> No.1782559
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>>1782558

WHAT'S THAT. YOU WANT AGITATION

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>>1782558

YOU'LL FUCKING GET AGITATION

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>>1782558

OH I GOT PLENTY OF BONERS FOR YOU BUDDY

>> No.1782563

>>1782323
What issues are you having? The Saturn version had a really terrible framerate so if it's that you could be mistaking that with emulation issues.

>> No.1782568

Are the Doom novels good?

>> No.1782569
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>>1782558

STILL GOT MORE

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>>1782558

I'm gonna stop yelling now

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>>1782558
>>1782574

and just the spicy skelly

>> No.1782579

>>1782552
also go to hud options and enable crosshair if you use freelook

>> No.1782581

>>1782579
crosshairs are for casuls

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>>1782558

>> No.1782583
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>> No.1782586
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>>1782558

Keeping those boners coming

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>>1782558

I guess I gotta keep typing shit here to make sure I can keep posting shit

>> No.1782589
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you didn't got this from me, right? right

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>> No.1782593
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>>1782592
whoops

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx10MYrh4MY

>> No.1782605

so I just tried out HDoom. I kind of regret the whole experience

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>> No.1782616

>>1782487
There IS a necromancer mod that has you raising corpses as your minions.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30206

>> No.1782621

>>1782568
Well they are amusing

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>>1782558

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>>1782624

>> No.1782631

>>1782616
Not the same guy, but this looks pretty fun. Thank you

>> No.1782635

>>1782568
Not really.

It stops trying to pretend to be Doom around the third book, then the last book goes full The Matrix on us.

>> No.1782636

>>1782589
ffffffffffffffffffuccck

>> No.1782643

>>1782635
Matrix? How?

>> No.1782647

>>1782643
They end up going into a computer simulation and Flynn Taggart becomes Neo.

>> No.1782658

>>1782647

Hoooooly shit, how do they fuck up a Doom series that much?

Don't get me wrong, I love both Doom and The Matrix but holy shit... did that Matrix-y novel come out in the early 2000s? Every creative mind was taking ideas from the Matrix in the early 2000s, so if it was written in that era I can at least forgive.

>> No.1782662

>>1782658
Endgame came out in 1996.

The demons are also called Freds

>> No.1782664

>>1782662
No that was the nickname given to the aliens that crafted the demons as bio weapons shaped as humanities worst nightmares, and by the time their home world was reached they seemed to be extinct, I would have been okay with all of this if they had been the flemoids

>> No.1782672

>>1782664

Huh, I actually like the idea of the demons not literally being demons but being designed to look like what are obviously humanity's most iconic visions of terrifying beings. It's less silly than literal demons and it makes sense in a sci-fi universe.

I... I almost want to read these novels now.

>> No.1782674

>>1782664
That sounds a lot like Prometheus, actually. I'm not sure how I feel about that

>> No.1782690

>>1782672
you know that scene in South Park where everyone dies and there's an announcement "the correct religion is mormon, repeat, mormon" and everyone else gets shipped off to hell?

That's the second Doom novel

>> No.1782694

it's wall-to-wall Mormons

>> No.1782701

>>1782672

I despise the idea, but if you like it, then you're in luck. It's only the most common premise of every single goddamn Doom fanfiction, second most common premise being UAC IS EVIL CORRUPT CORP WHO WANTS DEMONS FOR BIOWEAPONS!!!!!

>> No.1782702
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1782702

Are Doom and Wolf packs worth buying?

>> No.1782703

>>1782702

Just pirate them and send carmack/romero/any of the old doom team 20 bucks

>> No.1782708

>>1782702

I've been playing all the Doom games with wads I downloaded for free, which you can find through OP's FAQ link.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein is, in my honest opinion, one of the most fun FPS games ever made with the soul exception of one of the mandatory stealth missions. The one that takes place in a big green field. What a pain in the ass that level was, a total buzzkill. My steam version was bugged so that if the mission-ending alarm rings it doesn't reset even if you restart the level; it is constantly in ALERT mode until you literally restart the entire fucking game.

It's still worth playing though, probably the best post Half-Life 1 game before that design philosophy was ignored for HL2 or CoD design.

The pre-Return Wolfenstein games are only novelties at this point in time unless you have nostalgia for them. Doom is better in every possible way.

>> No.1782710

>>1782701
I loved how in Doom 3 the UAC was hinted to be evil and turned out to be completely on the up and up

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>>1782558

>> No.1782717

>>1782701
Are there any good Doom fan fics? And I don't mean in thr ironic sense like reprecussions of evil

>> No.1782718

>>1782708
The one thing that still chaps my ass about Return to Castle Wolfenstein is the complete lack of a shotgun.

>> No.1782721

>>1782717

There probably is, considering the law of averages.
I haven't found any and I eventually gave up looking, though.

>> No.1782723

>>1782708
I really didn't like RTCW when I played it. I honestly think it's id's worst game.

>> No.1782731

>>1782723
It was made by Raven, who also did Wolf 2009 and Quake 4.

>> No.1782732

>>1782731
Oh wait, scratch that. It's Grey Matter who did RTCW. I'm smoking some good shit.

>> No.1782734

>>1782731
>It was made by raven
It wasn't, it was Grey Matter. I meant that id published/released not developed RAGE is obviously the worst they actually developed.

>> No.1782735

>>1782718

RTCW has one of the best flamethrowers in the history of gaming, so it didn't need a shotgun.

>>1782723
RTCW is like Half-Life with an extra couple tablespoons of oldschool mentality. So I can understand people thinking it's bad... it's like a weird area between Quake 2 and Half-Life, as far as design philosophy goes.

>> No.1782737

>>1782708
Agreed, RTCW is a fantastic damn game. It's a very good mix of old style and modern style fps gameplay imho.

>> No.1782740

>>1782735
If only that werfer of the flammens had the stream arc down and not visually bounce off surfaces it'd be perfect.

>> No.1782742

>>1782735
>it's like a weird area between Quake 2 and Half-Life, as far as design philosophy goes.
This is a fair description I think. Granted, I like Quake 2 and Half-Life. I dont know, I just remember being bored pretty much the entire time I was playing RTCW it just always felt really stiff or something to me.

I don't really understand the appeal it has, but I'm not going to complain that people are liking what I don't like.

>> No.1782747

>>1782740

I remember that in the later levels, I would preemptively fire bursts of the flammen werfer around corners to set fire to potential woman Nazis.

Those fucking woman Nazis were by far the most difficult enemies in that game. The skeletons with shields that bounced your bullets back into your face were a somewhat close second, but you fight disappointingly few of them.

RTCW is one of those games that I love, but I can understand why some gamers hate it. It's definitely an oddball.

>> No.1782752

>>1782747
I remember trying to beat it on the hardest difficulty had those Nazi women aimbot at you from the darkness across the map. I think it was shortly before the final boss.

>> No.1782757

I loved RTCW, but it suffered from the same gameplay problem as Kingpin in that enemies were hitscanners and did huge damage but also tanked a fuckload as well. This made playing it on a higher skill setting nearly insufferable.

Also that shitty stealth mission. it's easier to deal with now but that was such a retarded place to put it after the great opening mission. The second one though, set in the village at night, was much much cooler despite also being a insta-fail if you set off an alarm.

>> No.1782762

>>1782702
No. You can get the iwads and better sourceports for free.

>> No.1782765

Can you use doomrpg with doom1? I tried selecting it and i get an error.

>> No.1782768

>>1782765
use the doomRPG launcher. It has a patch you need to load for doom 1 games.

>> No.1782787

I don't understand how to install Brutal Doom. I'm using GZDoom

>> No.1782793

>>1782787

You don't "install" it. Just like any other mod, you drag it onto GZDoom.exe.

>> No.1782803

>>1782787
Mods for doom aren't installed like they are other games. You had a wad file or a pk3 file or whatever, which contains all the games information.

Open the mod with GZDoom.exe.

>> No.1782820

Have iD said anything about Doom 4 being modable or not?

>> No.1782823

>>1782820

Quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom 3, Quake 4, Wolfenstein 2009, Rage, Wolfenstein: New Order... none of those games were modable.

So, no. Doom 4 will most likely not be modable.

>> No.1782824

>>1781704
Half-Life

>> No.1782840

>>1782824

Anyone else feel like Half-Life 1 is the peak of FPS design?

>Good blend of linear scripted sequences and non-linear "hit all the switches" maps.
>Weapons with recoil and spread, but still manageable with run 'n gun gameplay if you're careful and precise.
>AI that would be capable of making the game incredibly frustrating if not for them projecting their strategy with loud radio commands, allowing you to prepare your next move ahead of time.

Is there a FPS fan alive who doesn't love Half-Life? The only exception I can imagine are contrarians and people who refuse to enjoy any video game they didn't first experience as a naive child.

>> No.1782843

>>1782840
HL1 would be a lot more fun if it played more like an old-school FPS so it definitely isn't the peak of FPS design, in fact it triggered a heavy decline in FPS design with it's slow pacing and realism elements. It's still a great game all around though, good atmosphere, good enemy variety, good weapons (except for reloading), good music, good engine, good asthetics, good everything really.

>> No.1782845

>>1782823
>Quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom 3, Quake 4 none of those games were modable.
Yes they were.

>> No.1782848

>>1782840
I don't like it. The intro is literally just waiting for like half an hour. Wait for the tram, wait for the guards to open the doors, wait for the scientists to let you into the chamber, wait for the crystal to show up, wait for the game to let you out after you push it, wait for scientists to move from one place to the next, wait for people to open doors for you. I couldn't take all that fucking waiting.

>> No.1782849

>>1782843
>hl
>not fast
If I wasnt on my phone Id link a game of hl:dm

>> No.1782850

>>1782840
The thing I hate about HL is the vast amounts of hit scan enemies.

>> No.1782851

>>1782848

I thought it made a good job at putting you in the shoes of gordon freeman. Having all to do all these menial tasks really put Freeman's ordeal in perspective.

Besides, when the action really kicks in, it becomes the real fucking deal.

>> No.1782854

>>1782851
Well, it wasn't any fun. I was just fucking bored. The first time I tried the game I quit before the tram ride was over. I gave it another shot and pushed through to the action, and it was just shooting pathetic zombies that could barely fight back. But I pushed on, hoping it would get better. Then I was killed by nothing at all while riding an elevator, and decided I'd had enough.

>> No.1782856

>>1782849
I wasn't even referring to the movement speed, I was referring to the pacing of the actual game, so deathmatch is irrelevant

was it the garpy vid?

>> No.1782857

>>1782016
Master Levels for Doom

>> No.1782858

>>1782854
might wanna get your ADHD checked m8

>> No.1782862

>>1782848

Before Half-Life, every FPS that attempted to have "areas you're not supposed to shoot in" failed. Sure, these days it's easy to look back at HL 1 and think "they didn't let us shoot people for 30 minutes, what a bunch of shit," but back then it was incredibly innovative.

If the gunplay wasn't top-tier for the following 99% of the game, I'd agree with you that it's shit, but the fact is that the the first 30 minutes is setting the stage for a game that's meant to be more than just a shooting gallery despite having action FPS mechanics.

I mean, you might as well be saying you refuse to enjoy Breaking Bad because there's entire episodes with just "dialogue and drama with no action." Sometimes making the player listen and experience the world instead of just running around and shooting everything is the difference between something like Blade Runner and something like Transformers 2.

>> No.1782863

>>1782854

Well, Half Life isnt all gameplay like most old timey fps games, it also does it best at being an immersive experience. Of course, if you dont care for that, you're not going to like the game. Different strokes.

>> No.1782867

>>1782854

FYI, the difficulty ramps up dramatically in the following levels. Yeah, those zombies are incredibly easy and don't put up much of a fight, but you need to experience the marines which have arguably better AI than any FPS that followed HL1. The alien enemies can be really tough too.

The zombies you face in the level you've been sucking at are basically just "tutorial" creatures there to make sure the player knows how to use mouse look aiming competently, because believe it or not Half-Life 1 was one of the early free aiming games that didn't have any auto-aiming. Even Doom and Quake had auto-aiming. Quake 2 didn't have auto-aiming, but Half-Life was in development before Quake 2 came out and not everyone was a Quake 2 deathmatch pro.

>> No.1782870

>>1782858
What, is it so wrong to expect action when playing an action game? I start a game of Doom and I'm in the action. No boring waiting, no time wasting, I'm in, there's zombies, they're shooting me, I'm shooting them. I start a game of Quake. Have to go through the menu level, and then I'm in the game. Action, right away. I start a game of Strife. Two armored guys with assault rifles dead ahead, and they're going to kill me and I'm thanking them for it. I start a game of Deus Ex. Legendary intro scene, short dialogue with Paul and I'm in the game. For all its other shortcomings, at least Half-Life 2's intro doesn't outstay its welcome and actually has things to do, even before you get a gun.

>> No.1782875

>>1782870

The fact that Half-Life 1 had a shitload of AMAZING (at the time) scripted events for half an hour before you got to the shooting was amazing at the time, especially since it was so fun to be immersed in the world at a time when no action game bothered to take time to force immersion.

Yeah, it's pretty lame now that every FPS game since it has ripped it off, but it was fun as fuck at the time. It still is today IMO, as long as you're not the type of person who stopped reading books after high school.

You have to put this stuff in perspective, man.

>> No.1782883

>>1782875
>force immersion.
This is probably why I hate it so much. Devs should never try to force this sort of thing on the player, because it rarely works and often shows. If I want to be immersed, I'll do it myself. If I just want to play the fucking game, let me do that. Don't make me sit on a tram ride for 15 minutes with nothing to do but wait and look at the 1998 3D scenery like some sort of museum exhibit.

>> No.1782885

>>1782883

Serious question, do you read books?

If so, I'd say you should keep playing HL1 and I honestly believe you'll end up loving it.

If you don't read books, there's a good chance it's just not for you.

>> No.1782891

>>1782870
Half life only had the "forced immersion" thing in the tram ride/walking through the labs though. It's basically an in-engine intro vid. The rest of the game tells a story completely without cutscenes or forced exposition, which it was lauded or at the time.

>> No.1782895

>>1782891
>It's basically an in-engine intro vid.
Intro vids aren't normally 30 minutes long and unskippable.

>> No.1782897

>>1782895
No they're not, but this one is. And it's a hell of a lot more interesting for it. Look at any horror film for example, a good quarter or so of it is there to establish the characters and setting before the shit hits the fan. And the fact remains, after that 30 min intro you're completely in controll 100% of the game, with no cutscenes or much forced dialogue other than the odd security guard saying a line or two before opening a door.

>> No.1782902

>>1782118
>stopping at Atomic Edition and not playing the expansions
>Double pleb.
If anyone can tell me how to get DC and Life is a Beach to work with eduke32 I'd love to patrician the fuck up.

>> No.1782904

>>1782902
I suppose if you have DC and Life's A Beach in separate folders, you could tell EDuke32 to point to those folders instead of the default.
Otherwise, there's probably some guide for it on duke4.net or otherwise.

>> No.1782905
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>>1782885
This is the stupidest post I've seen in the last twenty-four hours, and coming from someone who frequents /x/ that is REALLY saying something.

Half-Life is nothing like reading a book. Reading a book is nothing like playing Half-Life. And for fucks sake, if you want video games to be taken seriously as an art form, stop trying to compare them to other art forms.

"Citizen Kane is comparable to the works of Michelangelo" said no film critic ever.

>> No.1782910

>>1782902
put the DC and lifes a beach files in the autoload folder. start up eduke and select the one you want to play.

>> No.1782913

>>1782910
im sorry, not the autoload folder, just the base folder.

>> No.1782915

>>1782905
I think he's more implying you're a retard if you can't get through HL

>> No.1782927
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1782927

Reminder: Doom 3 complete pack sale on steam has about 4 hours left.

>> No.1782929

>>1781929
>>1781868
>>1781704

I will never understand people who complain about this.

Each time I make a fresh install of a Build game (unless it's powerslave which has no mouselook) ; I go into setup.exe, and while configuring to WASD+Mouse ; I although INDIVIDUALLY change the sensitivity of the Y-axis of the mouse; which takes you only a few seconds ; and then mouselook is perfectly fine.
As for the diagonal 'issue', maybe I'm just used to it now, but I would have never known if people didn't talk about it all the time, I really don't think it's a problem.

For comparaison point, I am also NOT an FPS mouse aiming pleb, I can get very picky and precise about my mouse aiming, and I beat all of Quake3 in Nightmare difficutly when I was 13.

>> No.1782935
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>> No.1782936

>>1782885
If I wanted to play a book I'd play and rpg, but if I want mindless action then I play a shooter.

>> No.1782943

>>1782936
*an

>> No.1782949
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>>1782943
>>1782936
>an RPG
English is weird

>> No.1782959
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1782959

>>1782132

>From her only rocket launcher

Oh

>> No.1782962

>spent $7.50 for the BFG edition just so I could get the DOOM 1 and 2 achievements for it
Scold me, I deserve it.

>> No.1782963

>>1782962

nah, you're clearly trying to get a reaction from us

>> No.1782964

>>1782949
>an historic occasion
It's English I ain't gotta explain shit

>> No.1782971
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>>1782949
this is understandable because of how the letter R is pronounced
>>1782964
this on the other hand i will never understand and will always view as wrong

apologies for offtopic, have a webbum

>> No.1782972

>>1782964
What stupid fuck doesn't say the H in historian?

>> No.1782979

>>1782935
Too agitated for me

>> No.1782980

>>1782972
posh people who name their daughters "Sara"

>> No.1782982

>>1782980
Even Brazil puts the H on the end of Sara,

>> No.1782984

>>1782823
>Quake III
>not moddable
What? It had hundreds of mods.

>> No.1782989

>>1782949
RPG is typically pronounced "Arr Pee Gee".

It's a vowel sound at the beginning, regardless of what the spelling is...

>> No.1782990

>>1782972
bongistanians.

>> No.1782992

>>1782823
It would be fucking stupid of them to claim to take inspiration from a Doom fan mod and NOT t o give mod tools. They should add least give a map editor if they want it to be a real doom game.

>> No.1782996
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1782996

I just switched to Bandicam, seems to be performing MUCH better than Fraps.

I still think the compression for Webms are not good enough. Which Webm converter do you anons use? I'm using "Free Webm Video Converter".

>> No.1782997

>>1782996
Look up "webm for retards"

>> No.1783000

>>1782996
Do... do you have autoaim and freelook
at the same time

>> No.1783001

>>1782996

I've had good luck with Open Broadcaster or whatever its called

>> No.1783004
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1783004

I never got to play any of the DooMalikes they made with the same engine, just DooM and DooM II. I'm PROBABLY not going to want to play every single one, so which are the best?

>> No.1783006

>>1783004
They're all good, but Hexen and Strife are the most different from Doom. Heretic is pretty much just Doom: Fantasy Edition and Hacx was originally a DEHACKED mod, so until 2.0 comes out (never) it's rather passable.

>> No.1783007

>>1783004

If you liked doom 1 & 2 and want to up the challenge, you'll want to play plutonia.

If you enjoy the puzzle solving and key hunting of some doom levels, you'll want to play Hexen, otherwise SKIP IT. It'll drive you insane.

Heretic is pretty lovely but doesnt get much love here for some reason, so maybe I'm wrong. I personally think it's really fun.

Strife is pretty unique in that it has non linear RPG elements. It tells an interesting story but the gameplay is occasionally a bit wonky. (weapons not doing as much damage as you feel they should, some enemies are very unforgiving, ammo and resources can get incredibly rare... Still pretty good though

>> No.1783008

>>1782469
Do me a favor and set sprite clipping to 'always'.

>> No.1783013

>>1783004
Heretic is Doom: Fantasy edition. It's got some new features, like an inventory system with fun gadgets, and overall fun level design. It's harder than Doom.

Hexen is like an adventure/puzzle game, more technologically advanced than heretic but it's a lot more repetitive since it consists of switch hunts in huge maps/hubs.

Strife is a very unique fps-rpg, and the most advanced doom engine game. There's dialogue and an actual storyline. It's quite cool.

Decide what sounds most interesting.

>> No.1783019
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>>1782971
>mfw learning that the fully-charged punch in Project MSX deals over 6000 damage on a direct hit
Is MSX guy the strongest Doom mod character, barring the ones that are blatant cheating like the Russian Overkill characters? I'm pretty sure he could even kick Samus's ass.

>> No.1783020

Are there any Doom wads/mods that have elements similar to DoomRL? As in, classes, leveling up, upgradable weapons/crafting, etc.

>> No.1783021
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1783021

>>1783004
Gotta play 'em all

>> No.1783023

>>1783020

Look up Kyle's DoomRPG and DoomRL Arsenal.

Two different wads that work together.

>> No.1783025

>>1782997
>>1783001

Didn't had much luck with them, but thanks anyway.

>>1783000
BFG is the only weapon in BD that has autoaim, to prevent hitscan abuse.

>> No.1783034

>>1782823

>Quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom 3, Quake 4

Those games were moddable though, and Quake 3 has like 1,000 mods around.

>> No.1783036
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>>1783021
>No Action Doom 2 or Harmony
Step it up

>> No.1783040 [DELETED] 

I'm sick of all the flunk Half-Life gets, I thought the game was brilliant and has to be one of my favourite video games of all time.

I recently played through it again and found it to be just as brilliant as the first time I played it.

>> No.1783045
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>>1783008
What does that even do, I toggle through the options and nothing happens.

>> No.1783047

Why does Half-Life get so much hate? I thought the game was brilliant and has to be one of my favourite video games of all time.

I recently played through it again and found it to be just as brilliant as the first time I played it.

>> No.1783048 [DELETED] 

>>1783040
Half-Life was kind of part puzzle platformer and part FPS. If you don't really get the former than you'll have no fun with it as the latter, I guess.

>> No.1783049

>>1783004
One everyone forgot to mention: Chex Quest is a fun diversion, but it's also really easy/short because it was literally made for kids who turned in boxtops.

Still, it's pretty fun.

>> No.1783060

>>1783006
>>1783007
>>1783013
Thanks all. I think I'll do Heretic for now. Or maybe one of the RPGesque randomizers I see in this thread.

>> No.1783063

>>1783013
>It's harder than Doom.
u wot m8
no hitscanners, nothing even remotely comparable to the dickassery that is the archvile, practically harmless enemies like the sabreclaw

the weapons are weaker, sure, but that doesn't make the game harder if the enemies are also weaker.

>> No.1783065

>>1783047
Because it's not as good as Opposing Force.

>> No.1783072

So I started playing Zen Dynamics again, and I really like the weapons and music.

1) what weapon mods do y'all use?

2) are there any mods that have funky music, like in zen dynamics? As compared to metal.

>> No.1783079

>>1783047
You sure they didn't mean HL2? Because that didn't age so well.

>> No.1783083
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1783083

S-so. I was talking about this on the chats and I was thinking if vr dooms would be kind enough to give me some feedback on this map pack I'm working on called Vile shatters.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45880&p=772669#p772516

I've gotten maps 1 - 6 done and #6 is really dying for a little feedback, specially on the balance side.

The maps should work with mods and im aiming to make them be bit mod friendly too and all, but ofcourse they custom monsters so bluh bluh who knows how they balance out with some things.

>> No.1783084

>>1782971
>>1782964
Yeah I know, it just catches me off guard when reading sometimes
Like the rule is to use "an" before a word that starts with a vowel, but the rule really should be worded better, since that's not really how it works
Native English speaker btw, it's just odd

>> No.1783087

>>1783084
>Like the rule is to use "an" before a word that starts with a vowel, but the rule really should be worded better, since that's not really how it works

Yes it is how it works, the rule is fine. You just need to understand that by 'vowel' they mean 'phonetic vowels'; and since we're talking about pronunciation, it's kind of a given.

>> No.1783089

>>1783072
Don't know about Zen Dynamics, but Beyond Reality has some cool non-metal music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmzqNmsUyLE though this isnt the best example of its music

>> No.1783090

>>1783065

This guy gets it.

>> No.1783092

>>1782971
>an historic

That's the only correct way to say it, anon, but feel free to speak incorrectly if it helps you sleep better.

>> No.1783093

>>1783065
>>1783090
Opposing force really is pretty damn excellent. It's still lauded as one of the best expansions for a game right?

Fuck, I remember playing it in multiplayer when it had just been released. That fucking barnacle weapon was hilarious.

>> No.1783098

Wrath of Cronos got an update, in case anyone missed it.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=35846

>> No.1783104

>>1783093
I must be the only one who likes Blue Shift more than OP Force. I even like Blue Shift more than HL itself. Blue Shift is the perfect summary of what Half Life is about with excellent level design, while I think Op Force is completely off. It adds tons of stuff and is longer than Blue Shift, but I don't find it consistent at all, tons of thing about it (including the level design, which i consider the most important) is pretty average.

>> No.1783113

>>1783092
yais me'lady, this 'ouse 'as an 'istoric 'eritage

>> No.1783132

>>1782996
Wow I didn't think doom could handle serious sam levels of hords

>> No.1783135
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1783135

>>1783083
>Vile shatters
>Vile's Hatters

>> No.1783136

>>1783104

Personally, I just love all three of them. Just A++ stuff all across the map.

Sure, Blue Shift is short, but you know, I think people shouldnt frown so much upon short games. There's something to be said about shorter but tight and well paced games. Like Max Payne...

>> No.1783139

>>1783132

You must be new. This is hardly a new thing.

>> No.1783141

>>1783132

I take it you don't play Invasion mode either?

>> No.1783142

>>1782996
Is it possible to enable autoaim for all weapons so I can restrict aiming to 1 axis?

>> No.1783147

>>1782996
I used Open Broadcaster Software to capture a video (adjusted to 60 fps) and then ran the output through WebM for Retards.

>> No.1783148

>>1783142
Player Setup, change Autoaim to Always.

>> No.1783154

>>1783020
wrath of cronos is pretty cool, while it lacks upgradable weapons, but it makes up for that in skill trees

>> No.1783163

>>1783154
WoC is DoomRPG/DoomRl for poor.

>> No.1783168

>>1783135

Archvile Plays TF2.png

>> No.1783172 [DELETED] 

>>1783168
lol xD

>> No.1783174

>>1783135
Holy shit I just realized Ive been calling them "Archville"s instead of VILEs
You know, like a name of a ocation?

>> No.1783179

>>1783174

Welcome to Arch-Ville.

Population : Your exploded corpse.

>> No.1783184
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1783184

>>1783174
You're kidding right?
They are actually called ArchVILLE

>> No.1783185

Going through Masters of Doom.

So I'm really disagreeing with them on a lot of these firings. So Scott Hall's ideas are not jelling well with Doom. So why should this mean he gets fired? They should say "these are nice ideas. Just not for this game" and then give him some projects to work on. Maybe he could work on something in the vein of Commander Keen while the rest of the guys work on Doom? They're swimming in money so I doubt having another guy working on side projects would hurt the company too much.

Then Romero's firing. Okay so he messed up a bunch of ways. He's hype up Quake to anyone who'd ask, when it was all based on nothing. He slacked off working on Quake with the "rockstar" lifestyle, deathmatching and so forth. And he was too stubborn to realize that his original vision was too much for Quake, and that it would work best as a Doom 3D game. Is that really enough to fire him though? Romero was such an asset. All they needed was for him to work more, and to work more with Carmack. But Carmack seems to have really started to hate Romero and wouldn't budge. I'm thinking the answer is more about their relationship than the specifics. Probably just known each other too long and personalities can clash.

it does explain why I don't like Doom II maps as much as Doom 1 maps. Romero didn't make that many in II.

Also I have noted a few errors. The book says that The Crusher has a Cyber Demon being crushed. Unless I misheard it and he said "Spider Demon". Also he says that Imps are "bigfoot like" with brown fur. I never thought of that. Is that true? I've always seen them as hairless and having brown skin.

It seems like they throw away these talented guys too quickly if they don't fit into the particular project they're working on at the time.

>> No.1783192
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ok

>> No.1783193

>>1783192
meant to reply to >>1783185

>> No.1783207

>>1783174
even though i know full well "cacodemon" is pronounced similar to "cacophony", i still read it as "cake-o-demon"

>> No.1783214

>>1782823
Doom 3 actually had decorate like files (.def) that made editing gguns/monsters incredibly easy

>> No.1783216

>>1783207
I used to call them Cocoademons. Chocolatey.

>> No.1783229

>>1782915

and that's a retarded thing to say. If you do read books and play through Half Life all that will happen is you will realize how shitty the story to that game is. That's it.

>> No.1783236

>>1783229
> reading lore books
> expecting them to enhance your gameplay
If you likes starwars you should check out some of those books too. They're sure to add a whole new level.

>> No.1783242

>>1783132
Oh, it can handle extreme amounts of enemies. But if you go completely overboard all the AI checks will eat your CPU. See: Nuts.wad. It has 10k monsters.

>> No.1783249
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>>1783185
Meanwhile Willits still didn't get fired after both Doom 3 and Rage bombed, that fat cunt.

>> No.1783262

>>1782935

ITS ALL OVER NOW

>> No.1783271

>>1783249

Can you imagine if Romero was around for Doom 3? He could have saved it. Romero was right when he decided to move Doom away from a cinematic Half-life style game to an action game with little story. Doom 3 was just so sluggish and boring. It felt like it took forever for anything to happen. So much blah blah blah from idiots. I just want to shoot demons.

And Tom Hall's ideas aren't bad. They were after all basically Half-Life before there was Half-Life. If they had listened to him and gave him his own game to make, they could have made a half-life game years before the actual half-life.

These firings really hurt ID in the long term.

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1783276

>>1782913
>>1782910
>>1782904
Pic is my eduke32 folder. All the guides I can find are OS specific and don't include my OS.

>> No.1783279

>>1783113
It's funny because posh people (in Britain that is) do pronounce the h, but they still use "an". I don't fucking understand it.

>> No.1783281
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>>1782558
Late but eh

>> No.1783284
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>>1782558
Here's a good one

>> No.1783294

Jesus christ playing with plain zdoom while already nauseous was such a bad decision. I should have thought to look for dev builds of gzdoom sooner but it's too late now, I have to go lay down.

>> No.1783295
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>>1782558

>> No.1783302
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>>1783294
>2.5D mouselook

>> No.1783306

>>1783271

But DOOM 3 had no storyline, the only reason it was slow and boring was because of the shitty design. That being said, I actually don't think DOOM 3's a bad game-- just not what it could've been.

I don't recall it being Romero's idea either that DOOM should've had no storyline, I believe that was Carmack's idea. As I recall, Carmack said something like "a storyline in a video game is like a story in a porno."

>> No.1783321

>>1783276
I don't see the expansions in there.

>> No.1783328

>>1783306
>But DOOM 3 had no storyline,

It had tons of dialogue, and lots of characters. It had a story.

>> No.1783330

>>1783019
>I'm pretty sure he could even kick Samus's ass.

6000 damage in a single punch is nothing compared to a power bomb, sorry.

>> No.1783334

What do Bobby Prince's other music sound like if they used the Doom soundfont?

>> No.1783336

>>1781508
Hey Mark, align your fucking textures. There's misalignments on par with the actual E1 in this thing.

>> No.1783339

>>1783306
>>1783328
Anybody else feel that Resurection of Evil was the better of the two?

It felt more Doomy to me. Some of those levels on the harder difficulty were pretty nasty.

Also, ripping and tearing with the heart's powers was pretty neat.

>> No.1783340

>>1783276
For some reasons your "vacation" file (which IS the carribean addon) is called vacation.PRG instead of .GRP. Wtf man?!

Anyway - if you have the "vacation.GRP" and "dukedc.GRP" files INSIDE your eduke32 folder; you should be able to choose them in the startup windows of eduke32 when launching it.

>> No.1783342

>>1783340
But I also don't see the eduke32 executable in your folder, either.

>> No.1783345

>>1783339

Hate me, but I like The Lost Missions best. Just for the level designs...

>> No.1783352

>>1783345
Never played BFG.

>> No.1783354

>>1783328
>>1783339
Was Sarge evil all along or did the demons turn him by the time you got to Delta Labs?

>> No.1783360

>>1783352

The Lost Missions is good, but they fucked up DOOM 3 by intensifying the lighting to the point that the textures looked washed out, attaching the flashlight to your armour, lying about it being a HD remake, fucking up the multiplayer menu, removing modifications. The only improvement is the HUD and that's it.

>> No.1783374
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http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/69369-sunbleed/

this is pretty good

>> No.1783375

>>1783354
Its left ambigious, the only human ever confermed to be evil is Betruger

>> No.1783376

>>1783354
The scientist you track down in the very beginning seems pretty concerned about keeping things locked up tight and turns into a zombie regardless.

>> No.1783384

>>1783330
Total potential damage, sure. But a power bomb's damage is spread out over distance and time. The punch is all 6000+ points focused in one spot in one tic. Keep in mind the MSX guy also carries shield boosters which provide 10 seconds of invincibility when used, which would be more than enough to absorb the entirety of a power bomb blast.

>> No.1783386
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>>1781752
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/a-c/arena2.zip

12/27/99
"An arena gets invaded. You have to get inside and kick some ass before you can get out."

It's an arena, alright. Because I hate arena-style maps (which this literally is the definition of that) I turned on Buddha mode and just rip and tore.

>> No.1783390 [DELETED] 
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>Doom 4 takes ideas from Brutal doom

>> No.1783393

>>1781789
>Flying Revenant doom mod when?
If >>1781780 gives me a full set, I will code it.

>> No.1783398
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1783398

>>1781752
DO YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO TYSON RUN DOOM WITH A FORK?

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=graphics/fork.zip

>> No.1783405

>>1783393
>>1781789

someone did one already; it's on the zdoom forums, it used the jetpack zombie from the realm667 as base

>> No.1783412 [DELETED] 

>>1782996
ERMAGERD!!! Epic!!!! Can't wait for the release.

>> No.1783418 [DELETED] 

>>1783390
Well, it doesn't have reloading so it's already better than Brutal Doom.

>> No.1783420

>>1783398
that's such a bad graphic

>> No.1783440 [DELETED] 

>>1783418

I kinda like reloading.

>> No.1783445 [DELETED] 

>>1783440
>>>1783418

>post deleted
>he does it for free

>> No.1783447

>>1781752
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/Ports/j-l/ja_tansp.zip

This was pretty fun. A neat little level. The enemies aren't exactly difficult, but then again I did die two times due to carelessness, and the fact that there's only like 2-3 stimpacks on the entire level.

>> No.1783457

Ahem, like I was saying, the bad thing about Brutal Doom is that it has reloading. Or is Brutal Doom a sacred cow here?

Also, could the overzealous janitors not delete this post as a kneejerk reaction, thanks.

>> No.1783458
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1783458

>watching a GMOTA playthrough in scythe
>come to map30
>hahahaha there's no way he can do thi
>dodging and weaving through revenants like it ain't no thang
>pushing through mancubi with the gauntlet
>does the entire thing without death
>welp

GMOTA_Guy i take back everything i said about blaz being underpowered for slaughtermaps

>> No.1783467

>>1783457
>>1783457
We've had too much discussions about Brutal Doom that devolved into shitposting, and the post you were responding to was bait

>> No.1783468

To those who tolerated Doom 3's shittiness, how's the game on Nightmare difficulty?
I'm planning to do a run on it (first D3 run), but I wanna know if it's the Ultra-Violence kind of 'fair' difficulty, or if it's just fucking silly.

>> No.1783470

>>1783457
Its not for everyone, and I can understand why you dislike reloading, I personally like it

>> No.1783472

>>1783148
>>1783142
That won't work with BD.
You'll have to edit the mod yourself, and remove recoil from all the weapons.

>> No.1783475

>>1783468
Isn't Doom 3 not retro?

>> No.1783476

>>1783457
You can remove reloading from Brutal Doom with a mutator.

>> No.1783478

>>1783294
This happens to me as well. Why is this?

>> No.1783480

>>1783475
But would that make it easy-hard or bullshit-hard?
The Steam BFG achievements say only 0.5% of players have it, so I've got a feeling it's bullshit.

>> No.1783482

Anyone noticed how Doom 2 has a lot less of levels that vary in lightning?

>> No.1783485

>>1783468
you health continually drains to 1 unless you keep killing enemies and using the the demonic artifact to kill the respawning enemies. it sucks.

>> No.1783486

>>1783485
What. God, fuck that then.
Hopefully Veteran is good enough.

>> No.1783496

>>1782867
>FYI, the difficulty ramps up dramatically in the following levels. Yeah, those zombies are incredibly easy and don't put up much of a fight, but you need to experience the marines which have arguably better AI than any FPS that followed HL1. The alien enemies can be really tough too.
Yeah, if you haven't at least started fighting the marines then you quit HL too early

>> No.1783497

>>1783476

And why isn't that option actually built into the mod?

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>>1783340
>>1783342
Don't ask me how the PRG thing happened. Still doesn't come up though. The directory shown IS the one eduke32 is searching for game data, but Beach still doesn't come up.

>> No.1783503

>>1783482

You're right, I don't remember any deep black areas in HoE compared to UDoom; still craving for more wads that pull tricks like the E1M3 blue key trap

>> No.1783504

>>1783485
>>1783486
Wasn't it to 25?
Also you can't use nightmare the first time you play.

>> No.1783518

>>1783504
probably. it's been a while.

>> No.1783526 [DELETED] 
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1783526

Doom 3 RoE is at 3.75 bux right now on steam, would anyone buy it for me pretty please?

>> No.1783527

how do you guys configure doomrpg? i can never get it to feel comfortable and switch it constantly

>> No.1783534

>>1783458
Mind linking?

>> No.1783535

>>1783045
It makes it not cut off the bottom of sprites when they touch the ground, and thus look like total shit

Because of Doom's perspective the sprites should be slightly overlapping the floor

>> No.1783538
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>>1781724
That looks cool as shit, you shouldn't leave that to rot.

Also, I played the Dead Cargo level, was bretty gud, sneaky traps here and there. Have you considered making an E1 or E2 replacement that's Vanilla compatible? I think that could turn out pretty cool.

>>1781740
No, it's a Deagle.
But strictly speaking, the actual guns used on the movie sets was an M1A1 Thompson dressed up in plastic parts and junk, and the grenade-launcher was a sawed off Remington 870 shotgun in a backwards SPAS-12 heatshield, with a cut-up SPAS-12 pump-slide working as the 870's pump.

It's probably one of the coolest movie guns ever put together.


Pic totally unrelated, but I'm playing through an E1 replacement called Double Impact, and holy shit it's really fucking awesome, I've only just beat the second level but it's so good!
It has an excellent dark computer maze in the second level, lights flashing, demons and zombies stalking you in the dark, a kickass remix playing, I recommend anyone to look it up.

>> No.1783542

How is Doom 3s mod community? we could make brutal Doom3

>> No.1783546

>>1783542

How about we don't

>> No.1783547

>>1783546
Honestly, while I found Doom 3 to be an alright shooter, the weapons are all largely quite boring, aside from the chainsaw, and the gore is very lacking, in how it most despawns in a few seconds.

I've always wanted a mod that overhauls the weapons and stuff.

>> No.1783552

>>1783185
>Scott Hall
eeey chica

(You meant Tom Hall, not alcoholic pro wrestler Scott Hall, aka Razor Ramon)

>> No.1783553

>>1783547
doom 3 sucks ass, period

>> No.1783556

>>1783547
No, just no.

>> No.1783564

>http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/d-f/dm2dam.zip

Wow, this is pretty damn good right now. Its pretty advanced in what it does, and it manages to actually make use of a lot of Doom's mechanics.

I'd definitely recommend everyone play this.

>> No.1783569

Should I buy Duke 3D on steam or pirating is okay?

>> No.1783570

>>1783553
I don't think it's nearly as good as the originals by any means, but it's by no means awful.
6.5 / 10 in my book.

>>1783556
What makes you so opposed to this anyway? It's just a mod, it's existence doesn't retroactively overwrite all the Doom3.exe's in all of history.

>> No.1783573

>>1783556
What's the matter with the idea of enhancing the gore and feel of the weapons?

>> No.1783579

>>1783569
You should buy it on Steam or GoG ; BUT use EDuke32 to play it. As much as I love what the Steam version brought up (new popularity for usermaps ; workshop etc), it's a glitchy version and it looks terrible compared to the original game or eduke32.

If you buy the game on Steam or GOG and install it; eduke32 will automatically use the files of the games it needs to play it from those versions.

>> No.1783580

>>1783570
What's next, Brutal Silent Hill? Brutal Half-Life? Brutal Mario?

>> No.1783581

>>1783547

Ever played the DOOM 3 E3 Alpha? The weapons were cooler and the Hellknight could cut your head off then eat it. Too bad none of that shit was in the release :_(...

>> No.1783582

>>1783580
There is actually an smw hack called Brutal Mario. It's not really the same thing, though.

>> No.1783585

>>1783405
>someone
Not just any someone, but IMX!

>> No.1783586

>>1783579

So there are no advantages to the MEGATON Edition versions then?

>> No.1783589

>>1783580
I'm willing to stick to doom based games myself, or games similar like Duke

>> No.1783593

>>1783580

Yes please, can we also have Brutal Quake and Brutal Wolfenstein along with that? Thanks!

>> No.1783595
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1783595

We weren't meant to play God.

>> No.1783601

>>1783580
Id like a Brutal Might and Magic. Thatd be fun.

>> No.1783602

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/47942/

>QUAKECON bundle
>No Quake games
Where were you when id died?

>> No.1783603

>>1783502
I'm clueless about your issue to be honest. I only use the windows version of EDuke32.

maybe it's an issue with your .grp file. Where did you get it? Try to get another one. If that still doesn't work, try the old way, launch it with a command line (dunnoe how to do that with your os), the command line should be
>eduke32.exe -grp vacation.grp

>> No.1783604

>>1783595

>their feet are actually flailing

those little details

>> No.1783607

>>1783580
Brutal Half life exists and it's in devloppement through.

>> No.1783608

>>1783586
It has working multiplayer and you're likely to find random players on it ; the only other way of playing duke3D online won't have players, only works if you do it with people you know.

However, the multiplayer in megaton is laggy (even the devs admitted it).

Megaton also has easy on the fly launch of the add-ons which is nice.

Then, SOME people actually like the 32-bit renderer (which is the only forced rendered of the megaton version) more than the original game's 8bit. I personaly don't, but if you don't mind it, or even like it; you should be fine with Megaton , as long as you're playing the original game and the add ons casually. As far as mods and usermaps are concerned, you're better off with eduke32.

>> No.1783612

>>1783607
You talking about Project Black Mesa?

>> No.1783614

>>1783478
TERRIFYING NON-EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY
ID were big Lovecraft fans apparently.

>> No.1783615

>>1783602

It's not called QuakeCon anymore, it's called BethCon.

>> No.1783619

>>1783612
Nope http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-half-life

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>>1781752

This week I got a bizarre wad, it's just really quite strange... Also, it has one particular level which mirrors MAP01 and adds an alternate version of itself hidden inside, this map specifically was quite well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=775ASQ4lbXo

>> No.1783626

>>1783602

Quake is actually secretly also on sale for the moment:
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/434/?snr=1_4_4__106_3

It's been cheaper in the past though:
http://www.steamprices.com/eu/sub/434/quake-collection

>> No.1783630

>>1783603
I got the GRP/PRG from installing Beach into Dox Box. I don't know where to get a straight .GRP without having to do an install first. Any idea where I could find one?

>> No.1783638

>>1783625
>that music
What the fuck guys

>> No.1783643

>>1783638

What is doom.

Hurt me plenty, hurt me plenty, some more.

Sorry. I'm out.

>> No.1783662

>>1783643
WOAH WOAH WOOOAAAAAOOOH WOOAAAAAOOHHH OOHH OHHH

>> No.1783664

>>1783534

I'm assuming he's referring to my playthrough, which I finished up recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr07e7RkEQo

Honestly, I don't think the fact that you can dodge most of the battles is actually a good thing. Lord Blaz really could use a boost to help him out for slaughterfests.

>> No.1783665

>>1783602
>>1783626
it has no music tho

>> No.1783670

>>1783643
Oh I don't know, what can I do

What else can I say, your guts are huge

I know what I want, just to rip and tear

Demon you're done

I'll take my leave with you.

>> No.1783671

>>1783580
Again, you say this as if it's a bad thing, as if it somehow would invalidate the original games or erase them from history.

What bothers you so much about this?
I thought Hexen was shit, but it still had good stuff in it, and it didn't render all other Doom engine games null.

>> No.1783675

so i did the /vr/ doom gauntlet thing and got this.

WHAT IS THIS

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=themes/x-rated/i_am_old_enough_to_look_at_this/pamela_a.zip

>> No.1783681

>>1783675
>themes/x-rated/i_am_old_enough_to_look_at_this
you hit the jackpot. enjoy

>> No.1783685

>>1783547
I kinda dig how they filled in how the chainsaw got there in the first place.

>> No.1783689

>>1783665

can be patched in relatively easily but still a real bummer. Trent Reznor licensing issues maybe?

>> No.1783690 [DELETED] 

>>1783671
And the newfags think that Bd is "the way Domm meant to be played" and do not play original game.
And now Bethesda are making canon game that has nothing to do with original Doom atmosphere.

>> No.1783696

>>1783690
>Wanting doom atmosphere
That's how we got Doom 3

>> No.1783698

Is there a doom 64 wad?

>> No.1783701

>>1783690
i am sure i am being short sighted somehow but as long as the vanilla/boom scene keeps going i don't care what else happens

>> No.1783714 [DELETED] 

>>1783690
>And the newfags think that Bd is "the way Domm meant to be played"

They also think that Romero loved BD.

>> No.1783721

>>1783681
>http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-half-life

its so damn weird. it's all these broken up, laggy, nsfw 1995-ass gifs and the thought of 12 year-olds jacking off to it at one point in time.

>> No.1783723

>>1783690
>And the newfags think that Bd is "the way Domm meant to be played" and do not play original game.
So? Why do you care what fucknuts say? More importantly, do you think any of these people would have ever played the original game anyway?

Brutal Doom may attract a lot of dipshits, but it's also made people discover Doom modding, and Doom itself.

>And now Bethesda are making canon game that has nothing to do with original Doom atmosphere.
Id Software already did that with Doom 3.

It's like you're looking for excuses to be really angry.

>> No.1783725

What are some good gameplay mods that go well with all maps?

Currently using BDSE. Sometimes I'll use Dreadnought or Doomnukem.

>> No.1783727

>>1783721
whoops, meant to reply to

>>1783681

>> No.1783729

>>1783723
Peopl here like being angery, anger is the closest thing to joy many can feel

>> No.1783732

>>1783721
>>1783727
anon
anon are you okay

>> No.1783735

>>1783690

"meant to be played"

I cannot believe how narrow-minded you are, you are basically implying the only way to play DOOM is by playing it vanilla without any modifications. That no one should be allowed to play any mods whatsoever.

Well I'm sorry but people are allowed to play the way they want, have a nice day!

>> No.1783736
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So here I am testing a homing shot bursting to more homing shards mechanic and this is already promising

>> No.1783738

>>1783690
newfag here
fuck you i like vanilla more than bd
>>1783725
project msx
and gmota

>> No.1783741 [DELETED] 

>>1783690
>newfags think that
I have literally never seen a single person to directly claim "You must play Brutal Doom because it is the real Doom".

There was one thread on /v/ about 8 hours ago that you were probably wiping your ass in, but that was a complete troll thread you donut.

>> No.1783748

>>1781752
I got this.
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/amidol.zip

>> No.1783752

>>1783723
>So? Why do you care what fucknuts say?

Because these fucknuts pass on their knowledge to other fucknuts.
And then we have shit like people putting mods into their skins folder to run it, or people STILL using Skulltag and not updating to Zandronum because "Zandronum was made by hackers", or more, and it's a fucking mess all around.

>> No.1783758
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>>1783735
>people are allowed to play the way they want
This, what makes Doom so goddamn fucking great is how it's incredibly approachable, there's different ways to play the original game, and with mods and new maps, that expands to untold horizons!

>>1783725
Accessories To Murder
Burl Tumd can be pretty fun in it's own manners.

>>1783738
>i like vanilla more than bd
I'll be the first to admit that modern mods have spoiled me pretty hard, but original vanilla Doom is still really goddamn fun to play, even if it's the mangled BFG Edition, even if it's a butchered port like Snes Doom or GBA Doom, it's STILL Doom, and it's STILL really fun to play after all these yeasr.

>> No.1783759 [DELETED] 

>>1783735
No, he fucking said that people claiming that BD is the way Doom was meant (intended) to be played is a fucking idiotic statement because BD has some very clear issues and doesn't even work with all of Doom's original maps.

Its one thing to like the mod, its another to act like you can flawlessly replace the original gameplay and not lose something in the process. If one wants to play that way, that's fine, but as soon as one makes the claim that its meant to be played that way, one opens one's self up to criticism.

Regardless, the only thing that really grinds me with BD (or any mod, really) is people suggesting to other people to play the game with that front the get go because "its like vanilla but better". Yeah, and MISERY is a great starter for STALKER too, right? That's sarcasm if you're having trouble getting it over text.

>> No.1783761

>>1783741
>I have literally never seen a single person to directly claim "You must play Brutal Doom because it is the real Doom".

You are either blind, willfully ignorant, or lying.

Hey, here's something that was uploaded just a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bVMbiLMuyU

Viola, "the real Doom" right there in the title.

>> No.1783768

>>1783759
>as soon as one makes the claim that its meant to be played that way
Which nobody fucking does, this is literally a strawman.

>> No.1783772

>>1783768
see
>>1783761

Also I can't possibly believe you haven't seen people make that claim before. I've seen it in these very sort of Doom threads, though that was long before /vr/.

>> No.1783779 [DELETED] 

>>1783761
Who cares, it's just an unknown faggot.
>>1783758
>>1783725
>Accessories To Murder
Seconding that. It has the sprites of DoomNukem but it's different.
>>1783758
Ya, me too. Nowadays I mostly play with SmoothDoom if I want "vanilla".

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>>1783768
>Which nobody fucking does
sup

>> No.1783786

>>1783772
>Also I can't possibly believe you haven't seen people make that claim before.
I have, it's either epik trools trying to take everyone for a ruse cruise, or it's a 12 year old who's opinions don't matter, ergo, nobody who is of any importance says this.

>> No.1783787 [DELETED] 

>>1783779
>I have literally never seen a single person to directly claim
>Hey, here's someone saying exactly that
>WHO CARES IT'S JUST AN UNKNOWN FAGGOT

WHEEEEEEEEEEE BACKPEDALLING IS FUN

>> No.1783791 [DELETED] 

>>1783786
>nobody who is of any importance says this.

Heh, moving the goalposts, are we?
Here, enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4kLpBUHf9E

>> No.1783803 [DELETED] 

>>1783786
>nobody who is of any importance says this.
>>1783768
>Which nobody fucking does

C'mon man, don't move goal posts.

You know as well as I do that the 12 year olds playing BD for their first time and saying its the best shit are the most annoying ones.

>> No.1783806 [DELETED] 

no true doomman fallacy

>> No.1783808 [DELETED] 

>>1783803
12 year olds also think Call Of Duty is the best game evarr? Again, since when did the opinions of a 12 year old ever matter in anything?

>> No.1783812 [DELETED] 

Report drama and move on.

>> No.1783813 [DELETED] 

>>1783791
Not that guy but I've seen that video and nowhere does TB say that it's the "definitive Doom experience" or shit like that. He says it's a nice reimagining and stuff like that.

>> No.1783815 [DELETED] 

>>1783808

...Yeah, you're just pretty much walling up.
Sure, okay. I'm just gonna play Doom.

>> No.1783823

Although Doom is a great game by itself what I love the most about it is all the work that's done around it.

I can play whatever I want.

Wanna play like it's 93 all over again (but easier to digest) ? Chocolate Doom is here !
Wanna rip and tear like it's a fucking adaptation of the doom comic ? Thank you, Brutal Doom !
Wanna level up and customize some shit ? DoomRPG & DoomRLA here I come !
Get tired of the same old levels ? There's a bazillion wads and megawads to try out there !
Wanna do something completely different ? Just try some of the BATSHIT INSANE you can find all over the place. Gameplay wads, joke wads, experimental wads, whatthefuckamiplaying wads... It's all there and it's FUCKING AWESOME

>> No.1783840

>>1783664

I'm working on it, I've been tweaking damage values here and there. Giving Blaz that passive defensive boost, and some other shit I make up as I go along.

>> No.1783845 [DELETED] 

>>1783787
>>1783761
Will you shut the fuck up you incompetent loser?
For one thing you're not even responding to the same person, secondly 'newfag' would refer to a fucking 4chan user, and here you are linking to what could just as well be your own Youtube lets play of Brutal Doom you shallow twat.

Shut the fuck up, seriously.

>> No.1783847

>>1783823
Probably one of, if not THE biggest appeals about the community.

>> No.1783848

>>1783784
I actually think people are starting to think the games actually WERE like the comic instead of the comic being hilariously off from the tone of the original game

>> No.1783849 [DELETED] 

>>1783787
I wasn't the original anon you responded to, chillax.

>> No.1783850

>>1783752
>fucknuts pass their knowledge onto other fucknuts
Yes, those 22 views on that Youtube video you sent us has convinced the world that vanilla Doom is quaked by the superiority of the Brutal Doom modification.

>> No.1783853

>>1783848
Well with the new DO4M, they're clearly heading in the comic-like direction.
Granted, there's nothing wrong with Doomguy acting like a roided up Ash Williams.. I mean, that's probably as good as it could get.

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1783854

I like /vr/'s mods, response time is fine and they're thorough! Thank you for your service!

>> No.1783857

so can we all agree that smooth doom is the tits

>> No.1783860

>>1783848
Well, personally, the only main thing I think the Doom Comic differs from the game, is the fact that Doomguy talks. The violence levels are on par with it.

>> No.1783862

>>1783850
>Yes, those 22 views on that Youtube video you sent us has convinced the world that vanilla Doom is quaked by the superiority of the Brutal Doom modification.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4kLpBUHf9E

>> No.1783864

>>1783860
>The violence levels are on par with it.
Well, yes and no, Doom got pretty damn violent with the graphics it had, but the comic had some intricate detail put into things like spines and guts.

It's also goofy as fuck, but that's why I love it.

>> No.1783865

>>1783860
I always thought both developers and community put too much emphasis on the melee and chainsaw.

Who cares if he can gib an enemy into a red mush-puddle with his knuckles? It's fucking hardcore, but realistically (not 'realistic' in the sense of realism, but gameplay) using fists as weapons, even with a berserker pack, is fucking redundant. I hope to god the people behind the new Doom know that acing the shotguns is what's truly key to making an iconic experience with the arsenal.

>> No.1783867

Okay new guy here what's so divisive about that Brutal mod? I just watched some footage and it just looks like someone made a mod to make pistols into machine guns, added some modern-ish FPS feel to weapons and made a bunch of Duke style monster dying animations along with buckets of blood.

I expected something more significant, honestly. It's a gore mod with higher firing speed. Ignore and move on?

>> No.1783869

>>1783860
And I must add: If you look at Doomguy's face on the end pic of E4, covered by blood and holding Daisy's head, you will clearly notice that he has seen some serious shit, his experiences have fucked him up, and he is not the same man anymore, and now he is much closer to be what the Comix and Brutal Doomguy are.

>>1783864
But there are spines and guts on the original game!

>> No.1783870

>>1783867
it's only controversial because it got a lot of attention with people saying it was "how doom was meant to be played" which triggers autists like me into a frenzy

>> No.1783871
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>>1783864
The Doom Comic isn't that much different from Brutal Doom's Doomguy but it's true that the Comic Doomguy was way more goofy than any of the other incarnations.

>> No.1783875
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>>1783869
>you will clearly notice that he has seen some serious shit, his experiences have fucked him up, and he is not the same man anymore, and now he is much closer to be what the Comix and Brutal Doomguy are.

Hahahahaha are you fucking serious?
No, he's just pissed.

>> No.1783876

>>1783871
what do the imp's moon runes translate to?

>> No.1783879 [DELETED] 

>>1783867
It completely revamps the game in a perfectly balanced way, adding in a shitload of features.
Don't ignore it, because it's probably the most significant modification Doom has right now and there's nothing fucking wrong with it no matter what stupid, shit-eating vanilla elitists have to shout about it.

You're capable of making your own decisions and liking both vanilla and brutal as much as eachother, it's just more respectful to play vanilla Doom before anything obviously.

>> No.1783880

On that note, Doomguy is still human even during that E4 pic, not a fucktarded sadism machine.

>> No.1783881

>>1783875
>pissed
To be honest it looks like he's about to break down like a fucking bitch.

Also his hairline is fucked, seriously what is up with that shit.

>> No.1783883 [DELETED] 

>>1783879
>in a perfectly balanced way
>perfectly balanced

Nope.
Also GJ saying that anyone who doesn't like it are "stupid shit-eating vanilla elitists".

>> No.1783884
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>>1783875
That haircut makes no sense.

>>1783876
I don't know sorry.

>> No.1783886 [DELETED] 

>>1783879
top kek

>> No.1783889

>>1783881

He had to cut his own hair, WITH A CHAINSAW

>> No.1783890

>>1783871
I uhh.. I hope you know we're talking about the 10th Anniversary Comic.
You're just posting that image to provide content, right?

>> No.1783891
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>>1783881
>>1783884

Doomguy's got some crazy-ass hair, man.

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>>1783881
>>1783884
It's a buzzcut of sorts.
I've seen them in real life.

>> No.1783893
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http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=46324&sid=7336427d287774a9e19b5bad8f083d9c

I-is this real or am I just in store for another heartbreak?

>> No.1783894 [DELETED] 

>>1783883
That's your implication, not my statement you bitter fuckstain.

>> No.1783895

>>1783862
Not that anon, but as I said before, TB said it was a nice reimagining of the game, not that it was "Doom as it should be" "The REAL Doom" or whatever the fuck.
>>1783867
Just try it, it's free. And read the damn FAQ ffs.
>>1783879
I kind of like it but you're acting like a cunt.

>> No.1783896
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>>1783890
Yeah I'm just posting Brutal Doom related things.

>> No.1783897

>>1783870
Oh. Sorry then. I couldn't read up the post chains about this for obvious reasons.

>> No.1783898 [DELETED] 

>>1783894
>and there's nothing fucking wrong with it no matter what stupid, shit-eating vanilla elitists have to shout about it.

That is your statement.
If someone finds something wrong with it, they're stupid shit-eating vanilla elitists.

>> No.1783902

>>1783889
Sounds like a brawndo commercial

>> No.1783903 [DELETED] 

>>1783895
I'm projecting, motherfucker.

>> No.1783904

>>1783876
I think it's a pleasure thing, someone said that a while ago. Not sure though.

>> No.1783908 [DELETED] 

>>1783903
>I'm projecting, motherfucker.
Well that explains a lot.

>> No.1783909 [DELETED] 

>>1783898
Do we really need to get technical on how you have poor reading comprehension?

>> No.1783913

>>1783896
I gotta admt sometimes when playing I do feel like the bastart child of armstron and a mortal kombat character, do they ever say what's in those breserker packs?

>> No.1783914 [DELETED] 

>>1783903
Explain.

>> No.1783916 [DELETED] 

>>1783909

If you want, but we could also get technical on how you're a terrible poster.
But I have a hunch that'll lead nowhere fast, and you seem quite angry as it is.

>> No.1783917

>>1783893
There seems to be a ton of people working on it, so it's looking good for now.

>> No.1783918
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>>1783913
>bastart

>> No.1783921

I wish episode 4 of doom never existed
Why is it so hard compared to every other regular doom episode
The first and second map are a back-breaking combination

>> No.1783925

>>1783893
>>1783917
It's just for ZDoom atm sadly. Which is really weird.
>>1783921
acquire proficiency

>> No.1783928

>>1783875
>>1783880

Just imagine a fucked up Vietnam's veteran. He has seen some children being burned alive by napalm, he didn't slept well for one year, because every night he had the constant fear and paranoia that a vietkong would show up to stick his bayonet into his stomach while he sleep. And he killed at least 8 men during his time in service. He will be fucked up forever, and will never able to have a completely normal life again. He will get nuts every time he hears a helicopter or gunfire, even in movies.

Now imagine someone that passed through something 500 times worse than this. The difference is, the war still is happening.

Come on guys, think of it. If Doom was real, at the middle of E3 Doomguy's mind wouldn't be more civilized than the one of an angry neanderthal.

>> No.1783935

>>1783921

Try playing e4m2 with Hard Doom.

Took me quite awhile to beat that damn stage.

>> No.1783936

>>1783921
don't worry too much, after all it has been awkwardly grafted into the original game. it even comes after the "The End" finale! treat it as a PWAD, that's what it is essentially.

>> No.1783937

>>1783928
No, but it's more reasonable to expect that he'd be massively shellshocked or have one heck of a thousand yard stare.

>> No.1783938

>>1783928
Fuck that, he's not even killing humans.
He's killing zombified assholes and demons, he knows damn well that he's the man-and-a-half who's fucking shit up to save humanity.

>> No.1783943

>>1783865
>using fists as weapons, even with a berserker pack, is fucking redundant.

So much this. Unless they actually implement melee dodging (I wouldn't mind some quake style left/right dodging), it'll be pretty same-ish a lot of the time if they expect you to melee often.

>I hope to god the people behind the new Doom know that acing the shotguns is what's truly key to making an iconic experience with the arsenal.

Very much this. People probably don't realize it when they play, but mastering the way the two shotguns spread is a big part of Doom's normal play, especially on map's that exploit that with small firing slits for enemies and other such things. You won't fit a SS blast through one, but a standard shotgun can, for instance.

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>>1783928
If Doom was realistic, yes, this would happen.

But Doom isn't realistic, Doomguy isn't killing other humans who are fighting for their homes and familys, and he isn't (this is important) a realistic person.
He is a larger-than-life figure, the FPS equivalent of Dante. He doesn't have much personality, but from what we know is that he LOVES what he does.

This is not the face of a shattered man, no matter how much you want to push your grimedgy fanfic on us.

>> No.1783948

>>1783946
doomguy is me. and i'm not all shellshocked and 1,000 yard stare and such.

>> No.1783949 [DELETED] 

New thread plos

>> No.1783950

>>1783946
>FPS equivelent of Dante
How have I never, ever looked at it that way? I almost wish it was tied even close and involved him slaughtering the deadly sins.

>> No.1783951

>>1783928
Hi
assuming this had a merit of truth and that you weren't unbelievably wrong before about the demons being aliens and that the archvile is a politician
shellshocked people do not work that way
well thanks for listening, bye

>> No.1783954

>>1783928
aaaaand I am not even taking into account the possibility that he wouldn't barricade himself inside a small room, and survive for two days, crying and pissing himself, not sleeping, not eating, just pointing the gun at the door, until he gets scared by a mouse that gets into the room though the air ducts, then he unloads his rifle at the walls, saving the last bullet for his head.

>> No.1783956

>>1783946

I'd say he broke and reassembled into something so much stronger than the legions of hell could have ever anticipated

And he loves it

>> No.1783959

Doomguy has way more willpower and intelligence than you credit him. Way more.

>> No.1783961

>>1783928
>If Doom was real, at the middle of E3 Doomguy's mind wouldn't be more civilized than the one of an angry neanderthal.

During the whole thing? He'd be pretty unhinged.

But I think that after it's all done, he'd calm down, he wouldn't be a raging madman, but he'd be quiet, shy away from people, spend a lot of his time by himself.

>> No.1783963 [DELETED] 

>>1783898
>>1783879
hey, i may be a stupid vanilla elitist, but i am *not* a coprophage!

>> No.1783964

>>1783959
He's no smarter than the modern FPS character.
Instead of
>wait a minute that card
It's just
>wait a minute, the colour of that card

That's as far as his intelligence takes him. Vigorously humping walls to find a secret hole open isn't doing much for his IQ either.

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>>1783950

Dante and Doomguy would totally be best bros.
Slinging shotguns, killing demons, going out for pizza afterwards and then munching on top of the mountains of skulls.

Fuck Mark's edgy "doomguy is ~*~so traumatized~*~ :(" bullshit.

>> No.1783971 [DELETED] 

>>1783965
>muh uncle dante!
>e-edgy
Go back to /v/, DMC4 Dante was worst Dante by far.

>> No.1783972

i wouldn't be surprised if he went a little bit mad. you know, like mel gibson's character in lethal weapon, or some such.

>> No.1783975

>>1783918
I hate typing on my phone, I always look like a dumbass

Also on the Doomguy PTSD thing, he's a cypher, how he reacts is your interpritation

>> No.1783976

>>1783964
ironically enough, he's more fun to play as

>> No.1783978 [DELETED] 

>>1783971
Oh shut up you clown.
Dante isn't even much of a good character to begin with other than his attire. DMC4 Dante is still the best because he's mature and laidback in comparison to his childish, cocky-ass self in DMC3 where he wore a fucking leather training bra or some shit.

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>>1783971
>DMC4 Dante was best Dante by far

I emphatically agree, anon.

>> No.1783982

What events are canon for Doom? Obviously Doom and Doom 2 count, what about Doom 64 and Final Doom?

>> No.1783983

>>1783982
Doom 64 is canon

>> No.1783984

>>1783698

There's like TWO sourceports (done by the same awesome dude), and an anon was working on a Doom wad with Doom 64 textures

>> No.1783987

>>1783982

Both are in that sort of hazy zone that comes with being an official part of the Doom franchise but not being involved with the original creators.
Since none of them contradict stuff in the originals, though, it's safe to consider them canon.

Plus Doom 64 has the best ending where Doomguy squats in Hell and spawn-camps the fuck out of it, making sure Hell will never rise again.
Bad. Ass.

>> No.1783989

>>1783736

Good luck with that Frozen Revenant, Cactus. Looks good so far

>> No.1783992

>>1783965
I literally cannot picture doomguy even going out for food. That's a bit different from Dante - might be closer to Kratos actually.

>> No.1783993
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>>1783946
I always kind of imagined that was his way of dealing with the fear and mental trauma of seeing all those dead people + being alone and having to constantly fight for his life from vicious demons. I guess you can either go all PTSD or you can go straight up murdering psychopath to deal with the trauma of it all.

I mean just imagine having a cacodemon or spooky skeleton come at you in real life even if you were a well-trained soldier. Shit would be terrifying yo.

Also berserk packs give him the strength and rage to punch a guy into a pile of gore. Who knows what something like that would do to your body and psyche.

But I'm 100% certain Id didn't think Doomguy's persona through like that.

>> No.1783994

>>1783898
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but most of the people who hate on Brutal Doom ARE vanilla players who call it "overmodded," which is kind of an elitist thing to say about a game that's intentionally designed to be modded to hell and back, and elitism is shit-eating and stupid.

>> No.1783997

I imagine that after retiring, Doomguy lives in an incredibly simple house with no closets that could suddenly open and no locks or keys. He probably hates that shit more than monsters by now.

>> No.1783998

>>1783893
>or am I just in store for another heartbreak?

the entirety of the previous projects were OMB, this is shaping up to become a COMMUNITY project.

a lot of new people plus some forum staples, AND a couple of big names. if they manage to release something solid in this year, this will be an immediate Cacoward

Otherwise, they just attained a spot below the runner-ups which, all things considering, serves as great PROMOTION for the project.

>> No.1784003

>>1783997
kek

>> No.1784004

>>1783994
>but most of the people who hate on Brutal Doom ARE vanilla players who call it "overmodded,"

I'm very much not a vanilla player and don't care about "overmodding" and I still hate Brutal Doom.
I can imagine that most of the people here who don't like Brutal Doom aren't vanilla-only players as well.

It's probably best not to make broad statements that "most of the people who don't like X are Y".

>> No.1784005 [DELETED] 

>>1783879
>no matter what stupid, shit-eating vanilla elitists have to shout about it.

yeah, those filthy Doom purists, playing those UDMF maps and playing around with DECORATE, fuck 'em so hard

/allthesarcasmintheworld

>> No.1784006

>>1783994
That sort of thinking starts leading to 'all mods are good' though. It IS possible for a game to be worsened by the addition of too much stuff. I'm not offended by Brutal Doom by any means and keep a folder for both, but it DOES actually sacrifice a lot of charm for its gains.

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>>1783979
>>1783978
>>1783971

Pic related is best Dante.

>> No.1784017

>>1783997
>NO lights don't operate by remote switches
>bathroom doesn't even have a door
>guns and "pickups" litter the floor by intentional design
>had to make repairs after destroying a shower that looked too much like a teleporter

>> No.1784018

>>1783997

in MY mind Doom 4 was going to be about Doomguy on his 50s, living retired from all the shit in the world, all alone with a couple of animals in his own ranch in Dallas, TX, just the way Steve Austin has his BSR.

Because yes, if you didn't knew, Doomguy is from Dallas, TX

>> No.1784020 [DELETED] 

>>1784004
Well at least we're not a nigger, unlike you.

Nigger.

>> No.1784021 [DELETED] 

>>1784013
Jesus turn down the fucking HQx

>> No.1784023

>>1783997
>Doomguy goes to open a bank account
>they hand him a debit card
>the clerk gets punched into gore

>> No.1784032

>>1783997
Doomguy's windows reach the goddamn FLOOR, not even a tiny lip at the bottom, and all of them open up easily from inside.

>> No.1784034

>>1783857
Yes.

>> No.1784035 [DELETED] 

oh hai kegan

-rockmanyoshi

>> No.1784040

>>1784032
Someone should do a quick WAD of Doomguy's house.

>> No.1784047

>>1784040

if you pay close attention, Hellbound's MAP01 is exactly that

>> No.1784051

>>1783857
Holy shit I never heard of this before now. This is amazing.

>> No.1784053

>>1783997
you want to play the start of All Hell Breaks Loose, i think

>> No.1784057

>>1784006
Nah, a mod can be shitty. I've played some I don't like. But I'd give you a reason why I thought the gameplay mechanics weren't fun, rather than just say "It's too different."

>>1784004
Maybe you don't think it's "overmodded," but you didn't say thing one about what you actually disliked, and by a large margin, the complaints I've read about Brutal Doom are that it's "overmodded" and "not even the same game" or "tryhard edgy bullshit for CoD kiddies (i.e. not as barebones as vanilla Doom)." I mean, if you don't like the lunge on the Imp or you think the rifle zoom is too OP at long range, that's actual criticism, but that's not the type of thing most of the BD detractors say, and it's not the type of thing you just said.

>> No.1784058

>>1784053
If it's in the game it's not a house after retirement, is it?

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>>1783997
>>1784053 (me)
>>1784058

yeah you start in the house you retired in

>> No.1784068

>>1784058

Doomguy's job is eternal
True evil never dies.
And so does he.

>> No.1784072

>>1784065

>barrels on flames as fireplace

So 90s

>> No.1784081

>>1784072
great isn't it?

>> No.1784082

I hope Doom 4's "executions" are like Hotline Miami's.
Also found this in response to someone who said he hoped new Doom was more like the originals:

>That sounds very arcade like. I actually liked what they did with Doom 3. I think it would be a better game if it plays like a System Shock 2 or a first person Dead Space instead of the old school originals. I mean you're going to have a game on id Tech 6, which is going to be super dark and realistic. I don't know if I'd want a modern Doom game that plays like Painkiller or Serious Sam.

I mean, opinions and stuff, but fuck, that shit annoyed me.

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>>1784082
>There are people that want another half-assed version of SS2 as the next Doom game
why

>> No.1784098

>>1784082
Its pretty obvious at this point that Doom 3 being slower and less populated with monsters was what led it to ruin. It wasn't a complex enough game to bring a new audience, and it wasn't fast enough, populated enough, or have enough complex maps to keep much of the Doom audience.

I think Doom 4 is probably headed in the right direction. Trying to be realistic or slow is trying to compete with other games of the same type, and that is not going to happen. The best bet is a Serious Sam style of quick, visceral gameplay.

Let's just hope the maps are good.

>> No.1784101

>>1783992
Honestly I don't see it much Kratos is an asshole who blames his mistakes on others and will destroy the world to get revenge that should be inflicted on himself, doomguy dives into hell twice even when he has the option of ditching, knowing his crappy odds and tears hell a new asshole for the sake of the world

>> No.1784108

>>1783876
>that feels g--
>i'm cumming~

[sic]

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>>1784065
>plain wooden plank walls
>no wall paper or paneling
Man, Doomguy doesn't live so well.

>> No.1784115

>>1784112
Maybe he's just a more rustic kind of guy?

>> No.1784119

>>1783625
WHAT IS LOVE
BABY DON'T HURT ME
DON'T HURT ME
NO MORE

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>>1784115
>his fireplace is improvised from two barrels stuffed with burning garbage
He lives like a hobo, man.

>> No.1784131

>>1784121
>Doomguy is like a 'nam veteran
>too crazy to know anybody
>too weary to work
>sitting in his house all day, polishing his super shotgun
>waiting, preparing for the day the demons return

>> No.1784132

>>1784051
Aw fuck I can't get this to work with RLA + RPG. Now I'm gonna be sad forever having seen this.

>> No.1784135

>>1784132
Maybe try the monsters only download?

>> No.1784136

>>1784131
>ATF comes to his place for having an unregistered Short Barreled Shotgun
>it turns into a siege
It'd be like a mix between Waco and Ruby Ridge except Doomguy would be the only survivor.

>> No.1784139

>>1784131
If that shotgun were not the most satisfying weapon in all of existence then he would have so much easier a time of getting over it.

>> No.1784152

Do we have Marathon ported over for Doomseeker play, or is it just another pipedream like Blood?

I just want to duel wield shotguns again.

>> No.1784154

>>1784135
Oh

>> No.1784156

>>1784139
Doomguy has a paradox.

He loves to rip and tear, but the more he rip and tears the demons, the closer to victory he gets, until he defeats hell and saves the world.

Then he's stuck with nothing to rip and tear.

He's actually waiting for the next outbreak out of boredom, not duty.

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>>1784152

Play Samsara, then.
Marathon and Blood run on completely different engines, you're not going to find any non-idtech1 games on Doomseeker.

>> No.1784165

>>1784152
Thi sis the first time I hear about this game. Why would anybody release game only for Macs?

>> No.1784168

>>1784165
Is it comfy under the rock?

>> No.1784169

>>1784156
What happens when Doomguy dies of old age? Does he just keep running through Hell in cycles? Dude would break out of heaven if he could.

>> No.1784175

>>1784168
Well, I never owned a Mac and never was interested in Mac games. Sorry my ignorance.

>> No.1784176

>>1784175
Not what I meant, m8
http://marathon.sourceforge.net/

Have fun though. 2 is probably one of the best FPS out there.

>> No.1784180

>>1784169
>if he could
What are you trying to imply here?

>> No.1784182

>>1784165
>>1784175

Bungie had an exclusive deal with Macs at the time. Which is a huge shame, since Marathon was earth-shatteringly advanced at the time and did so damn many things that hadn't even been considered.
If it had been released on PC around that time instead of on the Mac, it probably would have been the only real challenger for Doom.

Unfortunately now all we have is a shitty source port that's designed for only the purest of purists.
I'd murder someone for a GZDoom/Zandronum equivalent.
No, fuck that, I'd murder ten someones.

>> No.1784183

>>1784176
Added to backlog, thanks.

>> No.1784185

>>1784180
But
If his own heaven is just running and shooting and breaking out of places how does he break out of the Heaven that contains it all? Can't bust out of heaven.

>> No.1784186

>>1784169
my guess would be that he gets to replace that old three headed dog who's supposed to guard hell

>> No.1784190

>>1784182
So, there if is a source code released, there is a chance someone will make a proper source port.

>> No.1784192
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1784192

I mixed hDoom with Brutal and got this.

>> No.1784194

>>1784190
the source code is released, anon

>> No.1784195

>>1784192
You've created the DmC of DooM.

>> No.1784196

>>1784192

Looks about right.

>> No.1784197

>>1784192
I thought they would mix semi-adequately, like BD's blood fountains appearing when you start the copulation. I wasn't prepared for what really happened.

>> No.1784198

>>1784194
Well, i don't see what's your problem then.

>> No.1784202
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1784202

>>1784197
>I thought they would mix semi-adequately

>> No.1784214
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1784214

>>1784198

Think of it this way.
You never got a chance to play doom before in your life, but everyone's talking about how awesome it is and how revolutionary it was and how important to the industry and etc etc
the source code is released, and people have made a version of it that works on modern systems! Glory be!

Except in this case, the only available source port is five-year-old version of Odamex, without any nods or even considerations towards accommodations to make things easier for modern players.
No console.
No interpolated mouse support.
No ability to join a netgame mid-match.
Every netgame kicks you back to the titlescreen.
You can't even start up a netgame by yourself, you have to make fucking appointments with people to fill up a lobby.

It would be really nice to have a better source port! It would be really nice to have a Zandronum/GZDoom equivalent around!
But, unfortunately, all we have is a gimped version of Odamex.

Being a Marathon fan is suffering.

Oh yeah and the original creators went on ahead to make Halo so there's that too.

>> No.1784224
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1784224

>read doom4 notes on gameplay
>now revenants have jetpacks

>> No.1784229

>>1784214
If this game is that good, why doesn't it have fans that can make patches/source ports/mods?
Fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 2 rewritten the engine from scratch. Its not that hard to port already existing netcode to another game.

>> No.1784230
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1784230

Hey Term! Project MSX playthrough when?

>> No.1784231

So I'm loving brutal Doom, but why the hell can't I turn off reloading?

Also I'm about to start playing Doom II for the first time, should I do it vanilla or with gzdoom?

>> No.1784235

>>1784231

Vanilla playthrough in GZDoom.

>> No.1784238

>>1784231
use the addons
also use brutal doom sperglord edition
and however you feel more comfortable, vanilla in gzdoom is a good choice

>> No.1784243

>>1784197
Well now I've got to try this.

>> No.1784245

>>1784202
>>1784197
I always figured that for H-Doom there should be a finisher with a huge noisy fountain of sticky semen that leaves spots and pools on the floor, walls, etc, dripping from the ceiling, and Doomguy screaming like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuBrIF1dic

I'd be like Ketchup.wad or Nashgore.wad except instead of blood it's semen.

>> No.1784246

>>1784245
WhiteSauce.wad addon for Hdoom when?

>> No.1784248

>>1784229

I...don't even know where to begin with this.

>why doesn't it have fans that can make patches/source ports/mods?
1: Being a fan of something does not instantly make you able to create shit.
2: That being said, it does, there are patches, there is a source port, there are mods.
3: You might as well be asking "if Doom is that good, why didn't it have a tournament at Quakecon this year" with how completely irrelevant that is.

>Fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 2 rewritten the engine from scratch.
That is...a completely different matter, not to mention an individual instance not exactly common in communities. You'll note that fans of other games don't usually rebuild an entire game engine from scratch.

>Its not that hard to port already existing netcode to another game.
How do you know? Are you involved in programming?
Yes it is hard.

>> No.1784250

How the fuck do I run doomrl arsenal?
It doesn't seem to want to go at all, even when dragged and dropped onto the gzdoom executable, ran through doom 2.

Am I just retarded?

>> No.1784251
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1784251

Im playing Brutal Doom Sperglord edition v19, and manual reloading doesn't work. No matter what key i set it to, nothing happens.

>> No.1784258

>>1784251
check the bottom of the controls screen

>> No.1784259

>>1784251
Your experience has been improved significantly.

>> No.1784260
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1784260

>>1784230

I dunno. I'm not exactly that good a player, I just thought GMOTA would be something different from the usual gamut of bad wads.

But hey, if people would be interested, then sure I guess.

>> No.1784262

>>1784259
No it hasn't. I still have to reload at the end of my clips and stuff, but I have to empty the whole thing to do it, m1garand style

>> No.1784263

>>1784260
>I'm not exactly that good a player

you went through map30 of scythe
without dying
in one straight playthrough

>> No.1784264

>>1784248
Well, then features you are asking for will be added eventually. Write e-mail to source port developers, post on their official forums, get their attention.

>> No.1784265

>>1784262
you're probably still using the 'basic' zdoom "reload" keybind, BD has its own, scroll down in the controls menu

>> No.1784271

>>1784263

I died a lot, actually. I spent pretty much three days on Map30.
What you're seeing is video editing. I figure people aren't too interested in seeing someone die, restart, die, restart, die, restart again and again, so I spliced a lot of footage together into one seamless playthrough.

See, when I died, what I'd do is play back to a quiet area I was at, freeze the game, then set the scenario back up.
I'd nudge the archviles here, put the cyberdemons there, summon an item I'd picked up before I died, head to where I was, and then restart recording.
Then during compiling the video, I'd cut out the part to where I died and put the next recorded part in it.

That way players see a full seamless playthrough and don't have to worry about bullshit about "oh my god he died AGAIN? If only he had just dodged that fucking thing".

>> No.1784275

>>1784260
It would be really cool imo. Watching Doom vids is comfy for me for some reason.

I wish MagSigmaX updated ;_;

>> No.1784284

>>1784195
>implying brutal doom isn't DmC of DooM

>> No.1784285

>>1784265
Oh that's stupid. Shame on mark for coding that and shame on the sperglord for not fixing it

I'm still not liking BD after reloading and SE's fixes. Enemies seem way overpowered and they make tons of noise then they lose a limb

>> No.1784287

>>1784284
In what way?

>> No.1784297

>>1784287
the edgy way

>> No.1784302

>>1784297
What makes it edgy?

>> No.1784304

>>1784297
>edgy
Edgy has an actual definition and meaning, you know. It doesn't mean "this is outside of my comfort zone".

>> No.1784305

Hey anons!
Out of curiosity, do you play with autoaim on?

>> No.1784306

>>1784260

Term you play through MSX or I'll say hurtful things towards you. Like I'll make harsh comments regarding your hygiene. By calling you smelly.

So get on it. Smelly

>> No.1784309

>>1784305
Is there a way to turn off autoaoim in vanilla Doom?

>> No.1784313

>>1783857
Yeah. It could do with a handful of changes but it's well on its way to being badass as hell

>> No.1784314

>>1784309
Of course no.

>> No.1784315

>>1784305
I play with auto-aim off, auto-aim feels like cheating and it feels wrong for the bullet to not land where I point it, I prefer to manually line up my shots with the mouse.
With freelook.
And a red little dot for a crosshair.
In OpenGL.

>> No.1784317
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1784317

>>1784306

>> No.1784319

>>1784304
>over excessive blood and gore
>dedicated "fuck you" button
clearly you are either blind or don't know what you're talking about

>> No.1784320

>>1784314
You know what does that means? Devs wanted us to play with autoaim.

>> No.1784324

>>1784285
yeah, i don't know why it works like that
maybe you'll prefer accessories to murder or something?

>>1784309
i'm pretty sure not

>>1784305
always off and with freelook.
i remember a while ago i tried to shoot at a barrel right at the side of some enemy to blow it up, but the shot got autoaimed at the guy, it was pretty fun-breaking

>> No.1784328

>>1784319
1.
tense, nervous, or irritable.
"he became edgy and defensive"
synonyms: tense, nervous, on edge, highly strung, anxious, apprehensive, uneasy, ill at ease, unsettled, unstable; More
excitable, twitchy, jumpy, keyed up, fidgety, restive, skittish, neurotic, brittle, hysterical;
sensitive, insecure;
irritable, touchy, tetchy, testy, crotchety, irascible, peevish, querulous, bad-tempered, short-tempered, hot-tempered, quick-tempered, temperamental, snappy, captious, crabbed, prickly;
nervy;
informaluptight, wired;
informalstressy
"she felt edgy, dreading tomorrow"
antonyms: calm
(of a musical performance or piece of writing) having an intense or sharp quality.
"tremendously edgy brass playing"
2.
informal
at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde.
"their songs combine good music and smart, edgy ideas"

Brutal Doom isn't really any of these things.
It's juvenile, over the top, and silly, but I wouldn't call it particularly edgy.

Throwing the finger at a demon isn't really that different from Romero calling his DM buddies "monkeyfucker" or "faggot"

>> No.1784329

>>1784320
Couldn't you just answer that straight up or did you feel the need to be an insufferable vanilla elitist?

>> No.1784331

>>1784305
If I play without freelook then I turn it on. If I play with freelook, then I turn it off. Simple.

>> No.1784334

>>1784320
The devs also wanted people to experiment and modify the game in all manners possible.

>> No.1784338

>>1784334

Yeah but fuck that we have to get into another age old discussion about something that doesn't matter on the internet.

>> No.1784339

>>1784320
or, you know, tech limits

>> No.1784343
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1784343

How do I run a wad made in OBLIGE with doomrl arsenal?

Pic mildly related

>> No.1784346

>>1784343
gzdoom -file doomrl.was mapname.wad
This should work, I guess.

>> No.1784347

>>1784334
This, its why I'm trying to make sure Dino Doom has elements that feel different from normal Doom to it, also, what games do you feel have music that fits doom really well? Even if its just one song

>> No.1784350

>>1783698

http://www.mediafire.com/download/xp94v69002x9a1j/Doom64_WMIRedux_PRERELEASE.wad

>> No.1784351

>>1784285
Have you tried Hurt Me Regular difficulty? It's the same as UV spawns but you take half damage. As for BD having it's own reload, that could be the way the mod handles all the weapons, and it'd have to be redone from the ground up to ZDoom's built-in one.

>> No.1784352

...it's Hurt Me Plenty

>> No.1784356

>>1784352
In SE it's been reworked as Hurt Me Regular.

>> No.1784357

>>1783954
Do any of the marines in Aliens react this way?

Fuck no. Because they're fucking professionals. We don't know if there's a draft in UAC times but I'm pretty sure UAC isn't even government, meaning you need to volunteer for this shit.

Some of the marines in Aliens do start to freak out, yes, but that's half the point of that movie, a bunch of hot-shit soldiers end up dealing with a threat they are woefully underprepared for. Doomguy, by comparison, is--if anything--OVER prepared, and halfway through E1 is able to basically walk over enemies.

If the marines in Aliens had as little problem killing aliens as Doomguy did, then Hicks wouldn't have bitched out. And shit, Ripley didn't really have any big fucking problems during her time. She was even able to yell, "GET AWAY FROM HER YOU BITCH!" and shit.

>> No.1784358

>>1784357
>Do any of the marines in Aliens react this way?

THAT'S IT MAN GAME OVER

>> No.1784360

>>1784346
sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this.

Is this something I put in zdoom.ini or what?

>> No.1784364

>>1784360
So, drag-and-dropping wads into .exe does not work?

>> No.1784368 [DELETED] 

>>1784328
>using a dictionary for internet slang
even though I know you're trolling at this point I'll bite
Edgy is used now a days to describe something dark such as DmC's killing children and saying fuck you 500 times, this is compariable to Brutal dooM's fatalities causing over excessive gore and blood because somehow the enemies have become ketchup packets through the course of this particular modification filled in with it's own "taunts" that either come out of the Doom comic or just flat say "fuck you" over and over
So there you have it Brutal Doom is edgy

>> No.1784371

>>1784343
If you have wonderful problems, you can make a shortcut for your GZDoom.exe, view it's properties and in graph "Object" add "-file oblige.wad* "DoomRL Arsenal Beta X.Y".wad** "DoomRL HUD".wad"
---------------------------------------------------------------
*Instead of "oblige.wad" you should put the name of the wad with levels.
** X.Y is the version of DoomRLA you have.

>> No.1784374

Weird noone answered freelook + autoaim. It's what some other Doom engine games used, and in a sense it's the best of both worlds.

>> No.1784380

>>1784320
Only because in 1993, mouselook hadn't really been established yet, and WASD wouldn't come along for about another 5 years. (Quake shipped with the arrow keys still controlling movement.) Furthermore, in Doom's original engine, you simply could not look up or down, because the 2.5d rendering would make it look like shit, and the ONLY reason the autoaim is on is so you can hit enemies that are above or below you.

>> No.1784391

>>1784358
Seems like you didn't read the rest of my post. Yes, Hudson and a few of them do start to freak out, but they initially don't, and Hicks keeps his cool throughout the movie. And they only freak out because, again, they're getting their shit pushed in. Doomguy doesn't really get his shit pushed in, ever. He's constantly getting the better of literal hordes of demon spawn, and apparently is no worse for the wear.

>> No.1784398

>>1784374
I use that. Someone's gonna call me a faggot for doing so, but I suck at the game anyway and don't actually give a shit.

I also just type resurrect in the console when I die, and if that's too much I just turn on buddha mode.
Actually, ideally I would just play in co-op all the time with respawning weapons, so I could respawn at the beginning of the level but not have to kill everything again.

>> No.1784401

What is the most irritating thing about the Doom community or someone new that plays Doom that you can think of?
For me it's when they jump or crouch. I fucking hate when they do that. Also too much gamma and filtered textures.

>> No.1784404
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1784404

OSJC is the king of sprites holy fuck

>> No.1784407

If you're already using a mod that changes monsters, is there anything you can do to still change hitscan attacks to use projectiles, or at least draw lines on the screen? That's probably the only thing I ever had against Doom.

>> No.1784416

>>1784401
I jump and crouch all the time, wanna fight about it? It makes the game more fun for me.

>> No.1784417
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1784417

>>1784404

But in that pic he worked on top of a gun done by Eriance

Eri actually does CONCEPT ART of his monsters before ever grabbing any graphic editor. He's on another level.

For instance, try figuring out how many of these are in Realm667

>> No.1784418
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1784418

>>1784401
>For me it's when they jump or crouch. I fucking hate when they do that.

>> No.1784421

>>1784306

lol'd

>> No.1784423
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1784423

Bizarre question:

I'm a complete faggot and want to play MM8BDM Justified classes in DooM 2. I can't manage that unless I also run the megagame wad, but it looks like shit. What do?

>> No.1784424

>>1784407
Not unless you mess with the mod itself, which is entirely possible and not that hard

I don't know why you'd want to do this; just git gud

>> No.1784425
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1784425

silliness does this to people.

>> No.1784426

>>1784364
Nah, figured it out. Thanks bruv

>> No.1784427

>>1784416
It breaks the game, most wads are made to NOT jump or crouch.

>> No.1784431
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1784431

>>1784417
Does it matter? It looks good and he's done tons of other cool shit recently, like this. Eriance is distracted and hasn't done anything other than that revenant and redoing all the weapons for the 8th time in like 2 years.

>> No.1784434

>>1784424
Welllll I'm playing randomly generated maps and they would be a lot less shit if I could tell where I'm being shot at from, since they're often placed at really weird locations.

>> No.1784438

>>1784427
Oh fucking well. Russian Overkill breaks the game. Brutal Doom breaks the game. Accessories to Murder breaks the game. Jetpack Revenants break the game.

The game can be broken, sure, but honestly it's at the point where it doesn't matter. I'm by no means going to claim I'm the best Doom player but fuck it, I can't get more than halfway through any given megawad even WITH jumping and crouching. Do you think I really give a fuck?

Also, as a mapper: You should build your maps so they can freely be jumped/crouched through with no ill effects. If the player can jump to sequence break in your map, then you need to fix that.

>> No.1784442

So i really wanted to get into Coding for Doom, So i followed Wild weasels guide for making a simple weapon on Slade, I having trouble with Offsets. I did exactly what wild weasel did but every time i try to run the wad ZDoom gives me this "Script error "Project2.Wad:DECORATE" Line 23: Invalid state parameter offsets"

>> No.1784443

>>1784427
It's stupid OP if you're trying to run through the levels as fast as possible, but for explorer-types jumping just adds a bit more fun. Only issue is the possibility of getting trapped.

>> No.1784445
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1784445

>>1784404
>>1784417

Here's some more concept art. This has quite a bunch of fiends you've seen in your generic Realm667 mashups

Aaaaand, now someone posted >>1784425 which is a frankensprite of guns completely done by Eriance. The style completely gives it away

>>1784431
>Eriance is distracted and hasn't done anything other than that revenant and redoing all the weapons for the 8th time in like 2 years.

While in the meantime a big portion of the spriters in the community do stuff on top of his work instead of doing stuff from scratch. If there's anyone in the community that would get away with accepting commissions for sprites, that would be Eriance (however he refuses to do so, comprehensively enough, because he's currently busy with IRL stuff and, as he told someoen on #zdoom once, commissions wouldn't exactly boost him up to do spritework)

Also Uboa > OSJC

>> No.1784450

>>1784438
Take that blue key and raise a bridge after 15 minutes of level? Nah, let's just jump right to it and finish the level!

Well, you may like it, I don't.

>> No.1784451

>>1784442
Post the code, it probably has nothing to do with the sprite offsets

>> No.1784453

>>1784445
>Uboa > OSJC
At least you didn't say Blox

>shading

>> No.1784454

What's a good simple launcher to use for Doom? I'm making a million shortcuts and it's kinda dumb.

>> No.1784456

>>1784450
I'm just having fun, I don't give a fuck if I'm playing it "right"

>> No.1784457

>>1784454
*gzdoom

>> No.1784459

>>1784454
Don't make shortcuts, you can just drag and drop. That works for me.

Other than that, there's ZDL, and there's a new one out but it doesn't work on XP

>> No.1784461

>>1784454
ZDL

>> No.1784462

>>1784451
ACTOR BoomBoomGun : Weapon Replaces Chainsaw
{
Inventory.PickupMessage "You got the BoomBoomGun! Boom, boom, boom."
Weapon.AmmoType "Shell"
Weapon.AmmoUse 1
Weapon.AmmoGive 16
Weapon.SlotNumber 3
AttackSound "weapons/shotgf"
States
{
Ready:
SHTG B 1 A_WeaponReady
Loop
Select:
SHTG A 1 A_Raise
Loop
Deselect:
SHTG A 1 A_Lower
Loop
Fire:
SHTG A 0 A_GunFlash
SHTG A 1 A_FireBullets(5.5, 3, 6, 8, "BulletPuff", 1)
SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,40)
SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,48)
SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,44)
SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,40)
SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,37)
SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,35)
SHTG A 4
Goto Ready
Flash:
SHTF A 2 BRIGHT A_Light2
SHTF B 2 BRIGHT A_Light1
TNT1 A 1 A_Light0
Spawn: SHOT a -1
Stop
Goto LightDone
}
}

>> No.1784469

>>1784456
I agree on a certain level, it's just irritating to me. Everyone plays as they want, it's just to have fun. It's mainly on the official maps

>> No.1784474

>>1784459
I don't really want to drag and drop because some of the variations I'm keeping on a permanent basis use a bunch of files and it's even more pointless to find, select, drag and drop them each time than it is to make shortcuts.

>> No.1784479

>>1784434
>they would be a lot less shit if I could tell where I'm being shot at from
when you get shot, look at doomguy's face, he looks at where the direction the attacker's at
>>1784454

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

It also has built in /idgames support, and lets you see the info and rating inside of it. It's neat. I see no reason to use ZDL over it if you can run it.

>> No.1784482

page 5, new thread

>>1784480

>> No.1784484

Anyone have that image with the tweets about Doom 4 details?

>> No.1784485

>>1784479
>when you get shot, look at doomguy's face, he looks at where the direction the attacker's at
Which is only rudimentary at best. It's not very helpful if you're being attacked from above, below, or from behind, or even from the front where you can't see them.

I find that just going from where the gunfire is coming from is a much better strategery.

>> No.1784490

>>1782935
>that one fucking revenant flying backwards at very begining
10/10

>> No.1784495
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1784495

>>1784401

>> No.1784514

>>1784462
alright, I got no idea, I don't fuck with offsets in code, I just do it the old way with sprites

>> No.1784524

>>1784514
I'm not sure what i did different from Wild weasels
Here it is:
ACTOR SuperAutoShotgun : Weapon replaces Chainsaw
{
Inventory.PickupMessage "You got the Auto Shotgun! Boom, boom, boom."
Weapon.AmmoType "Shell"
Weapon.AmmoUse 1
Weapon.AmmoGive 16
Weapon.SlotNumber 3
AttackSound "weapons/shotgf"
States
{
Spawn:
SHOT A -1
Stop
Ready:
SHTG B 1 A_WeaponReady
Loop
Select:
SHTG A 1 A_Raise
Loop
Deselect:
SHTG A 1 A_Lower
Loop
Fire:
SHTG A 0 A_GunFlash
SHTG A 1 A_FireBullets(5.5, 3, 8, 4, "BulletPuff", 1)
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,40)
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,48)
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,44)
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,40)
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,37)
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,35)
SHTG A 3
Goto Ready
Flash:
SHTF A 2 BRIGHT A_Light2
SHTF B 2 BRIGHT A_Light1
TNT1 A 1 A_Light0
Goto LightDone
}
}

>> No.1784547
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1784547

Any mods which discourage willy nilly wastage of resources and encourages proper management of inventory?
Or should I just go play resident evil?

>> No.1784548

>>1784547
Doom on Nightmare.

>> No.1784550

>>1783685
how

>> No.1784552

>>1784548
>mods

>> No.1784563

>>1784552
I know you still haven't though.

>> No.1784690

>>1783987
>Doom 4.
>You get all of those awesome demon powers because it's a staple that you get the power of your enemies to defeat them, like the Artifact in Doom 3:RoE.
>You rip and tear every layer of hell.
>You kill Cyberdemons, Spider Masterminds, Icons of Sin, the Mother Demon, the Maledict, the Guardian from Hell, every demon in hell is dead.
>However, you look kinda demonic, since using all of spiffy hell powers to destroy hell ended up turning you into something inhuman.
>Last level of Doom 4.
>Level name: "Spawn-Camping".
>You open the last door of the game.
>The original Doom marine welcomes you with a rocket launcher to the face.

>> No.1784714

What if Doom 4 has a tool to convert .wads from Doom engine into maps that can be played in Doom 4?

>> No.1784731

>>1784714
you be smoking dank weed

>> No.1784745

>>1784462
>>1784524
You wrote "Offsets" instead of "Offset",
Yours looks like this:
>SHTG A 1 Offsets (0,40)

It should look like this:
>SHTG A 1 Offset(0,40)

>> No.1784748

>>1784423
Not much, honestly. It'd be like trying to load Heretic wads in Doom.
It'd require manual editing in order to make it completely standalone.

>> No.1784757

>>1784438
>Also, as a mapper: You should build your maps so they can freely be jumped/crouched through with no ill effects. If the player can jump to sequence break in your map, then you need to fix that

It is not a mapper's duty to bend over backwards to design for something that shouldn't be done in his maps, just like it's not his duty to add support for your favored mod of choice.

>> No.1784807
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1784807

>Want to play some deathmatch Doomseeker
>Nothing good on
>Metroid
>Jumpmazes
>Mega Man
>Survival and crafting shit
>Ghosts and Ghouls

Fuck me. I just want a 32 man room of shotguns, is that too much to ask?

>> No.1784826

>>1784807
>Nothing good on
>Metroid
>Metroid isn't good

yeah too bad

>> No.1784829

>>1784826
It was fine the first couple of hundred games. Then it got stale.

I've never even touched a Metroid game

>> No.1784830

>>1784826
Hey now. He's got opinions and he ain't scared of using them.

But I can understand what he means, I wish there were more active vanilla servers.

>> No.1784849

>>1784829
>the first couple of hundred games

then don't play it that often?
i mean come on it's not even that popular a mod, you'd have to have actively looked for it
well, or the whole two times it's been on FNF

>> No.1784919
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1784919

Sup /vr/. So I'm having sort of an unusual issue. I just got a new laptop, with windows 8 (unfortunately), and I go to start up some doom, but I noticed that the mousebuttons on the trackpad are really unresponsive when in game. They work perfectly fine outside of doom, but in doom they just get all janky, I have to click a bunch before my guns will fire.

>> No.1784925

>>1784919

Well for one thing you got Windows 8.

>> No.1784928

>>1784919
>>1784925
Nevermind, I fixed it. There's a retarded click delay thing that's enabled by default, just had to disable it.

>> No.1785693

New thread:

>>1784480
>>1784480
>>1784480

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