/vr/ - Retro Games

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NEWS
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-Doom 4 reveal! Well, kinda. Only those dudes who were actually at Quakecon got to see it firsthand, but here's a basic rundown of what happened there. It might not be terrible! http://pastebin.com/W8P7fdq3

-hobomaster22 is making a mod manager for Doom in the vein of Quake Injector, and has built-in /idgames support! It's pretty neat, give it a look. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/69346-doom-frontend-development-beta/

-Here's a cool online radio that only plays Doom music, 24/7; feel free to listen if you're interested http://liquiddoom.net/doom

-Some anons did a 200 min. speedmap WAD and this is the result! http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781 COMPLETELY VANILLA, tell us what you think!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? Do you live in England? He will be present at Revival '14 on August 9, see more details here http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1283115; for reference, this happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE.

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y [Do nothing]

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Doom RPG (not the mobile game) - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292
Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044
GMOTA - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy PLEASE reply to this so everyone can see it

>>1781639
the Belphegors are the big Centaurs right?

And who is this Five guy?

>>1781667
since IMX ran to the hills, I guess I'm doing thread posting

the trip is for filtering purposes, mainly

>>1781667
A very shit gum. Either that or a good spice.

is this where all the cool kids post? :v

>>1781667
3 AINT NUFF MAN I NEED 5

>>1781671
Nope. In fact, you have now been completely stripped of any coolness you once had.

Enjoy!

>>1781668
>he ran to the hills

he ran for his life?
he took his ball for his own needs?

>>1781671
Nope, just the /vg/ rejects.

>>1781672
>That TV remote on the bed.
TECHNOLOGY

>>1781676
aww man

>>1781658
>not "get me out of this crazy ass crystal prison"

>>1780775
It was okay. For your first time at anything an "okay" is great though. Complaints as follows.

The 'pickup an item, and a monster pops up behind you' is overdone. Everyone can see it coming, it isn't scary nor surprising nor interesting anymore. The same goes for the specter in the dark hallway.

The level feels too clean and artificial. Like if Hell decided to invade but was extra careful not to break anything or get dirt on the nice shiny floor.

The ledge near the chair (nice chair BTW, comfiest thing I've ever seen in a WAD) can't be dropped off of.

Hey did anyone make any mods here that they didn't release?

I just spent good 2 months making one, but I didn't credit shit and I'm too lazy to start. It's nothing particularly special either but I think it turned out ok.

:: [BE] Montreal :: FRIDAY NIGHT FRAGFEST #227: 32IN24-13 METROID DREADNOUGHT DM!

YO, LET'S HUNT

>>1781689
can you spectate stuff in first person?

>>1781692
Pressing F12 does that.

>>1781692
Hit F12.

>>1781686
yep. Genesis Saga: Aurora. Canned it so quick thanks to it being so shit.

>>1781694
>>1781695
Thanks anons.

>>1781665
the one that looks like Motaro?

>>1781686
>Hey did anyone make any mods here that they didn't release?
that's pretty much the entirety of my modding career

So I've been on a retro FPS spree lately. Beat Duke Nukem 3D (vanilla+The Birth), than Quake I.

Tried Blood, but the screwball mouselook makes it a pain in the ass, and I can't get Bmouse to work.

Tried Doom I but, it just isn't as fun for me as Quake and Duke. Too much running back and forth to get the keys, to unlock a door to get another key.

Tried Quake II, it looks great, but holy shit, every enemy is a fucking bullet-sponge. Everything takes too damn long to kill.

So what should I play next?

>>1781704
What doesn't work about bmouse? It's also worth pointing out that you can edit the dosbox startup config for Blood and have it do 'bmouse launch blood.exe' and then pause. There's a GOG thread about helping out with that.

>>1781704

Unreal or Wolfenstein.

>>1781704
>Tried Doom I but, it just isn't as fun for me as Quake and Duke

You faggot, how fucking dare you have an opinion. If you liked Quake and Duke, then try Unreal next, since it's basically a stylistic successor to those.

How the fuck do I play doom on Xubuntu 14.04?

This shit's an absolute pain, I just want to shoot demons

>>1781686

>>1781724
HOLY SHIT FINISH THIS MARK PLEASE

>>1781724
Wow, holy shit. This looks amazing.

>>1781724
damn.

hold on, wasn't a radar like that missing from another project?

>>1781724
This looks neat.

>>1781724
is that a famas

>>1781740
Plasma Gun from the Aliens series

Dont we have an image for the /vr/ Gauntlet?

TEST YOUR MIGHT
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?random

>>1781706
Well shit, I spent an hour today typing 'bmouse launch blood.exe' into Boxer over and over when I just needed to launch bmouse and THEN type launch blood.exe.

>>1781658
reposting from previous thread:

It looks like the top 100 wads in the pastebin has been flagged as malicious. Is there a reason for this?

>>1781763
In Chrome or Firefox? Firefox isn't reporting malicious anything.

Filesmelt should be fine; it's likely some idiot uploaded viruses to it or something and got it flagged, though.

The ZIP itself is fine.

Hey guys, Doombro here! Hope you're all having a good evening!

I made a new comic, enjoy! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

>>1781779

ahahahahah

>>1781779
Flying Revenant doom mod when?

>>1781779
fukken saved

>>1781779
>How to kill yourself
>Protip: Shoot at yourself until you die
Damn it Gamepro

>>1781779
Poor Doomguy, will never catch a break.

Also it's nice to see new comics, I thought you were done for good.

>>1781779
Second panel
Bottom right

>>1781773
ah sweet thanks, chrome kept telling me it was malicious but I'll try firefox now.

>>1781793
I'm never done bro.

>>1781750
M4A1 Pulse rifle, you god damned dolt.

>>1781724
Okay Mark, you have my attention. Link please? At least to that glorious map.

>>1781779

>>1781795
>>1780227

>>1781686
Just release it anonymously.

>>1781704
>screwball mouselook

It has the same mouse support as every other Build game, what the hell are you talking about?

>>1781801

/r/ing salami for proof

>>1781902
Duke and BJ?

>>1781902

But he just posted proof in the form of a new comic?

>>1781906

Duke and Doomguy

>>1781914

Small joke, Persian stuff e.t.c. never mind me

>>1781918
Oh I can see it now.

The lighting made me think the hair was much more orange so I thought it was BJ.

>>1781868
I played Duke with eduke32 which has 'modern' mouselook built-in.

Vanilla build engine running out of Dos-box has something along the lines of the following written into its mouselook (or so says the Bmouse guy at least).

if (abs(control.axes[0])>abs(control.axes[1]))
control.axes[1]/=3;
else
control.axes[0]/=3;

If I move the mouse to the north-west, I want my aim to move north AND west, not north OR west.

Guys, I'm playing brutal doom on a fresh install of ubuntu, and I can't get brutal doom to work. The wads load up just fine, even tried to set it to detect the brutal_v017.pk3 file in the zdoom.ini but still no joy in that regard.

How do I fix the matter?

Just want to say that the guys posting critiques of the maps people upload are really cool.

I haven't tried making my own map yet (too intimidated), but I think it's great that people can post on here and be honestly critiqued. The suggestions are phenomenal; I'm blown away by how different /vr/doom/ is than a lot of the other parts of 4chan.

Thanks.

Is there a reason why I can't connect to a server? It says I have a different version but I do not know what is it talking about.
pic related

>>1781947
/vr/ in general is pretty chill for the most part.

>>1781945
Make a skins folder in your ZDoom directory and put it in there

Are there any doom wads with a focus on vertical combat? I want to climb the outside of buildings, beating the shit out of cyberdemons, trying either to kick them off or not fall off, and then jump to a neighbouring building to shake them off.

>>1781950
>I have a different version

..Then get the newest version at zandronum.com

>>1781950
Okay. So you go to Zandronum's site, right?

And you see that new release? You download it.

>>1781960
You could play Hellbound with jumping and shit.

Or Metroid with it's walljumps.

Or Cyberrunner.

>>1781945
>brutal_v017
unrelated to your problem, but upgrade your shit mang

>>1781658
I heard that the announcement for the PS4 and Xbone versions of D44M was booed by the audience. Is this true?

>>1781704
>Too much running back and forth to get the keys, to unlock a door to get another key.

But Duke 3D does exactly this aswell...

>>1781672
What megawad is that from again? I vaguely remember it.

Is there any way to get the old Skulltag announcer for Zandronum?

What are some essential WADs? I've only played Doom 1 + 2 and NRFTL

>>1781959
I'm using gzdoom, should I create a skins folder in that folder?

>>1782013
google 'skulltag 98a announcer' there should be a forum post on the zandronum forums with a link to them

>>1781996
>But Duke 3D does exactly this aswell...
True, but Duke made it fun. There is so much more stuff in Duke that it makes it seem more like fun exploration rather than obnoxious backtracking.

>Destroy the grand canyon by kicking over a sign!
>Demolish a building!
>Cause a nuclear power plant to melt down!

vs.

>Grab key 1
>Unlock door 1
>Grab key 2
>Unlock door 2
>Grab key 3
>Unlock door 3

>>1781959

DO NOT DO THIS
DO NOT EVER FUCKING DO THIS

>>1782013

you just reminded me how this picture isn't even that relevant anymore

>>1782023

wait, weren't you expecting this to happen in this place sooner or later?

>>1782023
Why not?

>>1782028
>tfw I'm the only one who likes the new announcer better
Seriously, I feel like I'm in a fucked up gameshow. I wish he'd say I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR.

>>1782043

at the beginning of its conception Zandro had this GODFUCKINGAWFUL announcer that it forced everyone to go back to the Quake 3 knockoff

I'm not sure if you're talking about that one

>>1782016
Plutonia
TNT Evilution
Aliens-TC
Icarus
Eternal Doom
Hell Revealed
Batman Doom
Twilight Warrior
Demonfear
Herian 2
ZanZan
Equinox
RTC-3057
Action Doom
Phocas Island 2
Phobia: The Age
Zen Dynamics
Epic 2

>>1782036
The skins folder will always auto-load wads in it

This can cause problems when joining servers

>>1782050
Why havent they fixed that yet?

I've got tons of skins and I cant use any of them when I join servers.
Skins worked better in Skulltag

>>1782016
Back to Saturn X
Scythe 2
Deus Vult 2
Plutonia 2

>>1782050

that's not the main reason. still a valid one, anyway

>>1782047
Link? For completion.

>>1781721
install windows

>This weeks Fragfest is Metroid
It hurts to live.

>>1781779

Fuck you I just got awkward looks in the break room because I snorted my cola

Is there a mod for Doom 3 BFG edition that makes the shotgun not a piece of shit? I know there are some for the original Doom 3 but I'm not sure they will work with BFG Edition.

>>1782050
Well he's playing a single player game and he can always just take it out when he doesn't need it

So shut up.

>>1781721
Download ZDoom ubuntu binary, go to the directory from your command line and write "./zdoom".

>>1782072
A: Why the hell did you buy BFG edition when EVERYONE would tell you not to?
B: Mods don't work with BFG edition.

>>1782057
>Why havent they fixed that yet?

They can't fix you putting something other than a fucking skin in the skins folder.
I guess the only way to fix that would be like how you fix a dog.

>>1782080
I pirated BFG Edition, I thought it was just an updated version of Doom 3.
>Mods don't work with BFG edition.
Son of a bitch, guess I'll go get my doom 3 disc. Thanks anyway.

>>1782068

Do you have a problem with this, anon?

>>1782087
Obviously I meant that using skins on Zandronum at all doesnt seem to work for me.

>Doom 2
>Revenants have two missile launchers
>They only shoot one

D R O P P E D

Any mods that fix this?

>>1782057
maybe you're joining the wrong servers. Brutal doom, shotgun frenzy, complex doom all prevent most skins from being used.

>>1782096
Skins work fine for me, so not sure what's going on with you.

>>1782098
One shoulder has seeking missiles, the other regular ones.
Stop being so damn autistic.

>>1782112

How do you know? Are you a revenant?

>>1781929

I just tried playing vanilla Dook with verticle mouselook and the problem you're describing isn't even noticeable.

>playing Build games vertical mouselook in the first place when they auto-aim on the vertical axis

Pleb.

>stopping at Atomic Edition and not playing the expansions

Double pleb.

>>1782098
I've been playing DoomRLA with it's monster mod. Revenants in that mod have 3 different missile attacks. One faster missile that doesn't track you, a slower one that tracks, and rarely they'll fire fast, non-tracking missiles from both shoulders. That one tends to kill me most of the time when it catches me off guard.

There are also Heavy Revenants, which only have one large launcher that fires a single tracking missile that does tons of damage, and Nightmare Revenants, that fire pairs of non-tracking skull projectiles.

>>1782043
I like the new announcer too.

>>1782047
The excited announcer?

>>1782112
Yes.
Nightmare revenant and heavy revenant from doomRLA monster pack are "fixed". Nightmare fires two projectiles, heavy has assimetrical shoulders and fires a huge missile from her only launcher.

>>1782098
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/doubleagitator.pk3
just 4 u anon

>>1782048
>>1782059
But why are these essential, just giving him a long list isn't too helpful.

>no Ultimate Simplicity
plebs

Would anyone be willing to buy me Doom II while it's on sale? I haven't played since I was a kid, and I want to into Doom again. It's only a 1.24 and if I can I'll give you the money I have in my steam wallet to put the price under a dollar

FIVE MINUTE WARNING

>>1782098
fractal doom

soon pirata cosmico

>>1782139
Just read the faq dude. It's all there

>>1782139
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdl2pbv0vfv0b6n
just 4 u anon

>>1782138
>long list
>20 wads

>>1782139
how about reading the FAQ in the OP?

>>1782147
oh boy

>>1782139
>Buying DooM
Where do you think that cash will be going, my cute little anon?

>>1782148
I mean he probably wanted to know what makes those WADs worth playing. If he just wanted a list he could have used google.

>>1782215
or the damn frontend

>>1781704
If you didn't enjoy the key hunting in Doom then stay away from Shadow Warrior.

>>1782219

which doesn't work in XP

Are there any doom wads about crime fighting in big cities?

I have a few questions.

Was Eriguns ever finished?
How about Crossfire?
Has Project MSX been updated?

Some Doom 4 details I found in pic related.

Sounds much better than I had hoped for, however there's one thing that nags at me. They never once mentioned 'level design' in their list which is of course absolutely imperative to a good Doom game. I really hope this game isn't linear but I doubt it.

Having loads of enemies on screen also sounds good to me a la Doom II and Final, but I hope they're not taking the Serious Sam approach.

Developers these days seem to not know what 'retro' actually means, judging by that recent Shadow Warrior reboot. They think it just means throwing a fuck load of spawning enemies at you and facing wave after wave of them when that's really not what it was about at all. It was about may things but one which was absolutely key was good, non-linear level design. Level design is truly an art in itself by making sure it's balanced with health/ammo pick-ups etc and by thoughtfully placing enemies to come up with interesting gameplay situations. I just hope it's not some linear shitfest and you enter a room to be taking on wave after wave of spawning enemies like the Shadow Warrior reboot was. We'll just have to see.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/doom-4-showcased-on-pc-first-details-from-quakecon-31440750/

>>1782235
Action Doom 2

>>1782227
who cares about xp

>>1782235
BatmanDoom

>>1782246

Who cares about Doom
Who cares about playing videogames past the 20s

>>1782239
Also smart enemy usage and positioning.

>>1782239
Preaching to the choir man. Pretty much everyone here is concerned about the same thing.

>>1782239
I'm trying to remain cautiously optimistic about this. A lot of what I've heard about it sounds amazing on paper, but it'd be so easy to fuck up in execution. The hand scanner and karate, for example. I really just hope you don't pick up a berserk pack and become Neo

>>1782239
I do not really expect level design to take a priority for this next Doom game.

If the fights are interesting enough I can overlook it.

If Doom 4 is moddable then maybe even the community can pick up the slack.

>>1782139
Don't bother because only Zenimax/Bethesda gets your shekels.

>>1782239
I don't know why this detail keeps getting ignored, but colored keys and doors are confirmed

When was the last time a linear shooter had keys for anything, let alone colored keys? Exactly

>>1781667
A damn good burger place.

>>1781902
Sorry bud, I was at the gym.

Here's salami! I'm surprised people have caught on to salami.png

>>1782098

I made it so revenants fire 2, but one is gauranteed not to seek

seemed pretty fair, have both seek and you really have to mess with the damage

>>1782098
Hard Doom

Anyone else have a hard time emulating Doom for Sega Saturn? I like that version cause that's what I played as a kid, don't judge me.

Playing Doom 2 for my first time, using the Brutal Doom mod.

I'm getting my ass kicked playing on the default difficult setting. Should I lower the difficulty since I've never played Doom 2 before and don't know any of the secrets, or do I just need to git gud?

>>1782346
You just need to use corners a bit more often for corner shots.

Brutal Doom hurts the player much more than vanilla Doom so you will feel fragile if you aren't paying attention.

The most dangerous enemies are going to be the Shotgunguys.

>>1782346
>Playing Doom 2 for my first time, using the Brutal Doom mod.
Eeeeh. Whatever floats your boat I guess but imo you should be trying minor enhancement mods if it's your first time.
As for your question, remember to strafe like a mofo when fighting, and pay attention so you find some secrets. If you still find it too hard drop a difficulty.

>>1782356

I played Doom 1 vanilla. Maybe I'll just play Doom 1 Brutal Doom, since Doom 2 is 2hard4me. Seriously, level 2 is making me feel like I'm playing the FPS version of Super Meat Boy.

>>1782360
Level 2 is pretty rough in BD because of the abundance of shotgun guys.

>>1782265
I hope Doom 4 is moddable, but I half-expect that it won't be.

>>1782346
Don't play Brutal Doom if you've never played Doom 2 before. Just play Doom 2 without gameplay mods first.

>>1782362
Don't forget doom 1 mancubus level

Holy fuuuuuck

I got THIS close to savescumming

>>1782346
>Playing Doom 2 for my first time, using the Brutal Doom mod.

Welcome to the community. Hope you enjoy it, and stay a spell. Feel free to pop in the IRC in the OP if you have any further questions.
We've had 20 years of community content, after Brutal Doom hopefully you'll be interested in checking out some other quality mods the community's put out.

And if things get too difficult, don't worry about lowering the difficulty. The default was made for the average player, and if it's your first time then you are definitely not the average player.

>>1782368
Is Doom 2 Reloaded really that noteworthy? I found it pretty boring myself.

>>1782371

It's probably the best take on "remake Doom 2" than anything else I've played, and especially leagues better than D2TWID.

>>1782380
>especially leagues better than D2TWID.

I disagree. I actually quite liked D2TWID.
But eh, Doom 2 Reloaded at least not as bad as D2INO which felt extremely inconsistent.

>>1782387
>I actually quite liked D2TWID.

Yeah well you can take that opinion and just keep it because it's perfectly fine.

I must be like the only person who actually sets cl_maxdecals 0 in my (g)zdoom. Only ever turn it on for BDSE

>>1782365
Doom 2 you mean?
>>1782362
>>1782360
Yep, 3 too iirc.
>>1782393
Nigga you are burning out the joke.

>>1782397
Oh god i'm starting to mix up doom 1 and 2 levels

I see them as one long ass game

what's wrong with me?

>>1782394
Doesn't seem to work, blood decals still spawn.

>>1782406
Are you sure you typed it in correctly? I just tested to make sure I didn't mistype, and it worked for me.

>>1782406
This is me with it on 4096

>>1782415
Yep. Using BDSE, it doesn't work.
What build do you have? Latest stable?

>>1782406
>>1782427

And this is my with it set to 0.

>>1782429
I said I only have it on for BDSE.

>>1782098

>wanting the skeleton menace to have more fire power

the fuck is wrong with you

>>1782436

We have Revenants with Jepacks already. Your resistance is futile

>>1782436

I like the Revenants so I made them fire two at once, move faster, and got rid of their melee.

>>1782439

I'M ONTO YOU, YOU BONEY FUCK.

uh oh

houston, there's some shit going on

Why are there Doom 2 remakes with the same engine?

I never played Doom 2 but love Doom 1... does Doom 2 have bad/confusing level design or something?

>>1782454

Doom 2's levels starts getting...very bad, especially at the midway point of the game.

>>1782431
I know but I thought it would work with it too.
Oh well.

>>1782380
I really dug D2TWID (though I still have the icon of sin level to go through. A quick sprint til dead run leads me to believe it's kinda clusterfucked.

But yeah. Overall felt a lot like Doom 2, Though not as close as DTWID did

>>1782457
I dunno, Save for the pile of Vomit that is Nirvana, I consider Doom 1's Inferno maps to be far worse than anything in Doom 2.

>>1782439
Soon, the world will know the true main character of Doom: the Revenant.

>>1782469

sweet mother of gamma

>>1782469
The main character of doom is 200 revenants and one arch-vile

>>1782481
>a mod where you play as the archvile, trying to keep up with resurrecting 200 Revenants against the killing machine that is Doomguy

hmmm

>>1782481
I know that team combat is popular these days but this just seems unmanagable

>>1781658
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/18/doom-was-revealed-to-counter-fears-of-trouble-at-id-software-public-reveal-unlikely-this-year/

I didn't see this mentioned in the Doom 4 faq, and "no information until 2015" feels kind of important

>>1782493
I don't understand.

If the reveal was received positively then why won't they show it off to more people?
There's still fears that it isn't handled that well.

>>1782495
I'm honestly not sure, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either. Unless they don't want the entire internet to nitpick every frame to find problems.

>>1782469
>bottom right
what
why

>>1782495
It will have more mystique to it that way, I guess. Remember back when all you had were magazines and maybe some rummors on the BBS about it and then suddenly it appeared and the university servers crashed because everyone tried to jump on it simultaneously.

I missed out on that action. Probably for the best as that 386SX just couldn't hack it.

>>1782502
>>1782495
What the people saw behind the black curtan was a prescripted vertical slice, that will be nothing like the final product

>>1782516
Apparently there was an actual demo that could be played.

>>1782457

I guess I'll do a replay of Doom 1 instead then. Every half decade or so I get an itch to play through at least the first episode of Doom 1, I'm feeling that itch now and was considering trying Doom 2 my first time.

In all honesty, however, I don't think I have the patience anymore for levels that are too maze-y and confusing. I like non-linear levels, but not if they're easy to get lost in.

>>1782457
I think it dips in quality at maps 9, then 18 and 19, then 22-28.

Map 15 is okay.

Got doom today to relive childhood. I'm using gzdoom. recommend some gameplay mods? I want to be able to look up and down and stuff. Also, how can I make my health and armor and ammo come up on the screen? I've beaten the game before, so should I just play with brutal doom?

>>1782525
The middle levels are kind of bad but the rest is pretty decent, specially considering you have new enemies and shit.

>>1782538
>recommend some gameplay mods?
See
>>1782368

>>1782538
>I want to be able to look up and down and stuff.
Enable freelook in the mouse options.
>mods
See >>1782368
>brutal doom
Do as you please.
>Also, how can I make my health and armor and ammo come up on the screen?
They shouldn't be hidden by default. Try pressing -

>>1782525
Just try it. Noone will force you to finish it, and if you don't want to try some mulligan wads.

>>1782548
>>1782547
Cool, thanks. That's a really helpful picture too, I'll save that.

>>1782538
>recommend some gameplay mods?
GMOTA
Project MSX
Metroid Dreadnought
Accessories to Murder
Hideous Destructor (warning: plays absolutely nothing like vanilla Doom. Do not attempt unless you're interested in TECHNOLOGY and getting your ass kicked.)
>I want to be able to look up and down and stuff.
It's in GZDoom's options menu, under mouse controls.
>Also, how can I make my health and armor and ammo come up on the screen?
press the + and - keys until the HUD is to your liking.

Give me all the Revenant fanart that you have

>>1782558

WHAT'S THAT. YOU WANT AGITATION

>>1782558

YOU'LL FUCKING GET AGITATION

>>1782558

OH I GOT PLENTY OF BONERS FOR YOU BUDDY

>>1782323
What issues are you having? The Saturn version had a really terrible framerate so if it's that you could be mistaking that with emulation issues.

Are the Doom novels good?

>>1782558

STILL GOT MORE

>>1782558

I'm gonna stop yelling now

>>1782558
>>1782574

and just the spicy skelly

>>1782552
also go to hud options and enable crosshair if you use freelook

>>1782579
crosshairs are for casuls

>>1782558

>>1782558

Keeping those boners coming

>>1782558

I guess I gotta keep typing shit here to make sure I can keep posting shit

you didn't got this from me, right? right

>>1782592
whoops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx10MYrh4MY

so I just tried out HDoom. I kind of regret the whole experience

>>1782487
There IS a necromancer mod that has you raising corpses as your minions.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=30206

>>1782568
Well they are amusing

>>1782558

>>1782624

>>1782616
Not the same guy, but this looks pretty fun. Thank you

>>1782568
Not really.

It stops trying to pretend to be Doom around the third book, then the last book goes full The Matrix on us.

>>1782589
ffffffffffffffffffuccck

>>1782635
Matrix? How?

>>1782643
They end up going into a computer simulation and Flynn Taggart becomes Neo.

>>1782647

Hoooooly shit, how do they fuck up a Doom series that much?

Don't get me wrong, I love both Doom and The Matrix but holy shit... did that Matrix-y novel come out in the early 2000s? Every creative mind was taking ideas from the Matrix in the early 2000s, so if it was written in that era I can at least forgive.

>>1782658
Endgame came out in 1996.

The demons are also called Freds

>>1782662
No that was the nickname given to the aliens that crafted the demons as bio weapons shaped as humanities worst nightmares, and by the time their home world was reached they seemed to be extinct, I would have been okay with all of this if they had been the flemoids

>>1782664

Huh, I actually like the idea of the demons not literally being demons but being designed to look like what are obviously humanity's most iconic visions of terrifying beings. It's less silly than literal demons and it makes sense in a sci-fi universe.

I... I almost want to read these novels now.

>>1782664
That sounds a lot like Prometheus, actually. I'm not sure how I feel about that

>>1782672
you know that scene in South Park where everyone dies and there's an announcement "the correct religion is mormon, repeat, mormon" and everyone else gets shipped off to hell?

That's the second Doom novel

it's wall-to-wall Mormons

>>1782672

I despise the idea, but if you like it, then you're in luck. It's only the most common premise of every single goddamn Doom fanfiction, second most common premise being UAC IS EVIL CORRUPT CORP WHO WANTS DEMONS FOR BIOWEAPONS!!!!!

Are Doom and Wolf packs worth buying?

>>1782702

Just pirate them and send carmack/romero/any of the old doom team 20 bucks

>>1782702

I've been playing all the Doom games with wads I downloaded for free, which you can find through OP's FAQ link.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein is, in my honest opinion, one of the most fun FPS games ever made with the soul exception of one of the mandatory stealth missions. The one that takes place in a big green field. What a pain in the ass that level was, a total buzzkill. My steam version was bugged so that if the mission-ending alarm rings it doesn't reset even if you restart the level; it is constantly in ALERT mode until you literally restart the entire fucking game.

It's still worth playing though, probably the best post Half-Life 1 game before that design philosophy was ignored for HL2 or CoD design.

The pre-Return Wolfenstein games are only novelties at this point in time unless you have nostalgia for them. Doom is better in every possible way.

>>1782701
I loved how in Doom 3 the UAC was hinted to be evil and turned out to be completely on the up and up

>>1782558

>>1782701
Are there any good Doom fan fics? And I don't mean in thr ironic sense like reprecussions of evil

>>1782708
The one thing that still chaps my ass about Return to Castle Wolfenstein is the complete lack of a shotgun.

>>1782717

There probably is, considering the law of averages.
I haven't found any and I eventually gave up looking, though.

>>1782708
I really didn't like RTCW when I played it. I honestly think it's id's worst game.

>>1782723
It was made by Raven, who also did Wolf 2009 and Quake 4.

>>1782731
Oh wait, scratch that. It's Grey Matter who did RTCW. I'm smoking some good shit.

>>1782731
>It was made by raven
It wasn't, it was Grey Matter. I meant that id published/released not developed RAGE is obviously the worst they actually developed.

>>1782718

RTCW has one of the best flamethrowers in the history of gaming, so it didn't need a shotgun.

>>1782723
RTCW is like Half-Life with an extra couple tablespoons of oldschool mentality. So I can understand people thinking it's bad... it's like a weird area between Quake 2 and Half-Life, as far as design philosophy goes.

>>1782708
Agreed, RTCW is a fantastic damn game. It's a very good mix of old style and modern style fps gameplay imho.

>>1782735
If only that werfer of the flammens had the stream arc down and not visually bounce off surfaces it'd be perfect.

>>1782735
>it's like a weird area between Quake 2 and Half-Life, as far as design philosophy goes.
This is a fair description I think. Granted, I like Quake 2 and Half-Life. I dont know, I just remember being bored pretty much the entire time I was playing RTCW it just always felt really stiff or something to me.

I don't really understand the appeal it has, but I'm not going to complain that people are liking what I don't like.

>>1782740

I remember that in the later levels, I would preemptively fire bursts of the flammen werfer around corners to set fire to potential woman Nazis.

Those fucking woman Nazis were by far the most difficult enemies in that game. The skeletons with shields that bounced your bullets back into your face were a somewhat close second, but you fight disappointingly few of them.

RTCW is one of those games that I love, but I can understand why some gamers hate it. It's definitely an oddball.

>>1782747
I remember trying to beat it on the hardest difficulty had those Nazi women aimbot at you from the darkness across the map. I think it was shortly before the final boss.

I loved RTCW, but it suffered from the same gameplay problem as Kingpin in that enemies were hitscanners and did huge damage but also tanked a fuckload as well. This made playing it on a higher skill setting nearly insufferable.

Also that shitty stealth mission. it's easier to deal with now but that was such a retarded place to put it after the great opening mission. The second one though, set in the village at night, was much much cooler despite also being a insta-fail if you set off an alarm.

>>1782702
No. You can get the iwads and better sourceports for free.

Can you use doomrpg with doom1? I tried selecting it and i get an error.

>>1782765
use the doomRPG launcher. It has a patch you need to load for doom 1 games.

I don't understand how to install Brutal Doom. I'm using GZDoom

>>1782787

You don't "install" it. Just like any other mod, you drag it onto GZDoom.exe.

>>1782787
Mods for doom aren't installed like they are other games. You had a wad file or a pk3 file or whatever, which contains all the games information.

Open the mod with GZDoom.exe.

Have iD said anything about Doom 4 being modable or not?

>>1782820

Quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom 3, Quake 4, Wolfenstein 2009, Rage, Wolfenstein: New Order... none of those games were modable.

So, no. Doom 4 will most likely not be modable.

>>1781704
Half-Life

>>1782824

Anyone else feel like Half-Life 1 is the peak of FPS design?

>Good blend of linear scripted sequences and non-linear "hit all the switches" maps.
>Weapons with recoil and spread, but still manageable with run 'n gun gameplay if you're careful and precise.
>AI that would be capable of making the game incredibly frustrating if not for them projecting their strategy with loud radio commands, allowing you to prepare your next move ahead of time.

Is there a FPS fan alive who doesn't love Half-Life? The only exception I can imagine are contrarians and people who refuse to enjoy any video game they didn't first experience as a naive child.

>>1782840
HL1 would be a lot more fun if it played more like an old-school FPS so it definitely isn't the peak of FPS design, in fact it triggered a heavy decline in FPS design with it's slow pacing and realism elements. It's still a great game all around though, good atmosphere, good enemy variety, good weapons (except for reloading), good music, good engine, good asthetics, good everything really.

>>1782823
>Quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom 3, Quake 4 none of those games were modable.
Yes they were.

>>1782840
I don't like it. The intro is literally just waiting for like half an hour. Wait for the tram, wait for the guards to open the doors, wait for the scientists to let you into the chamber, wait for the crystal to show up, wait for the game to let you out after you push it, wait for scientists to move from one place to the next, wait for people to open doors for you. I couldn't take all that fucking waiting.

>>1782843
>hl
>not fast
If I wasnt on my phone Id link a game of hl:dm

>>1782840
The thing I hate about HL is the vast amounts of hit scan enemies.

>>1782848

I thought it made a good job at putting you in the shoes of gordon freeman. Having all to do all these menial tasks really put Freeman's ordeal in perspective.

Besides, when the action really kicks in, it becomes the real fucking deal.

>>1782851
Well, it wasn't any fun. I was just fucking bored. The first time I tried the game I quit before the tram ride was over. I gave it another shot and pushed through to the action, and it was just shooting pathetic zombies that could barely fight back. But I pushed on, hoping it would get better. Then I was killed by nothing at all while riding an elevator, and decided I'd had enough.

>>1782849
I wasn't even referring to the movement speed, I was referring to the pacing of the actual game, so deathmatch is irrelevant

was it the garpy vid?

>>1782016
Master Levels for Doom

>>1782854
might wanna get your ADHD checked m8

>>1782848

Before Half-Life, every FPS that attempted to have "areas you're not supposed to shoot in" failed. Sure, these days it's easy to look back at HL 1 and think "they didn't let us shoot people for 30 minutes, what a bunch of shit," but back then it was incredibly innovative.

If the gunplay wasn't top-tier for the following 99% of the game, I'd agree with you that it's shit, but the fact is that the the first 30 minutes is setting the stage for a game that's meant to be more than just a shooting gallery despite having action FPS mechanics.

I mean, you might as well be saying you refuse to enjoy Breaking Bad because there's entire episodes with just "dialogue and drama with no action." Sometimes making the player listen and experience the world instead of just running around and shooting everything is the difference between something like Blade Runner and something like Transformers 2.

>>1782854

Well, Half Life isnt all gameplay like most old timey fps games, it also does it best at being an immersive experience. Of course, if you dont care for that, you're not going to like the game. Different strokes.

>>1782854

FYI, the difficulty ramps up dramatically in the following levels. Yeah, those zombies are incredibly easy and don't put up much of a fight, but you need to experience the marines which have arguably better AI than any FPS that followed HL1. The alien enemies can be really tough too.

The zombies you face in the level you've been sucking at are basically just "tutorial" creatures there to make sure the player knows how to use mouse look aiming competently, because believe it or not Half-Life 1 was one of the early free aiming games that didn't have any auto-aiming. Even Doom and Quake had auto-aiming. Quake 2 didn't have auto-aiming, but Half-Life was in development before Quake 2 came out and not everyone was a Quake 2 deathmatch pro.

>>1782858
What, is it so wrong to expect action when playing an action game? I start a game of Doom and I'm in the action. No boring waiting, no time wasting, I'm in, there's zombies, they're shooting me, I'm shooting them. I start a game of Quake. Have to go through the menu level, and then I'm in the game. Action, right away. I start a game of Strife. Two armored guys with assault rifles dead ahead, and they're going to kill me and I'm thanking them for it. I start a game of Deus Ex. Legendary intro scene, short dialogue with Paul and I'm in the game. For all its other shortcomings, at least Half-Life 2's intro doesn't outstay its welcome and actually has things to do, even before you get a gun.

>>1782870

The fact that Half-Life 1 had a shitload of AMAZING (at the time) scripted events for half an hour before you got to the shooting was amazing at the time, especially since it was so fun to be immersed in the world at a time when no action game bothered to take time to force immersion.

Yeah, it's pretty lame now that every FPS game since it has ripped it off, but it was fun as fuck at the time. It still is today IMO, as long as you're not the type of person who stopped reading books after high school.

You have to put this stuff in perspective, man.

>>1782875
>force immersion.
This is probably why I hate it so much. Devs should never try to force this sort of thing on the player, because it rarely works and often shows. If I want to be immersed, I'll do it myself. If I just want to play the fucking game, let me do that. Don't make me sit on a tram ride for 15 minutes with nothing to do but wait and look at the 1998 3D scenery like some sort of museum exhibit.

>>1782883

Serious question, do you read books?

If so, I'd say you should keep playing HL1 and I honestly believe you'll end up loving it.

If you don't read books, there's a good chance it's just not for you.

>>1782870
Half life only had the "forced immersion" thing in the tram ride/walking through the labs though. It's basically an in-engine intro vid. The rest of the game tells a story completely without cutscenes or forced exposition, which it was lauded or at the time.

>>1782891
>It's basically an in-engine intro vid.
Intro vids aren't normally 30 minutes long and unskippable.

>>1782895
No they're not, but this one is. And it's a hell of a lot more interesting for it. Look at any horror film for example, a good quarter or so of it is there to establish the characters and setting before the shit hits the fan. And the fact remains, after that 30 min intro you're completely in controll 100% of the game, with no cutscenes or much forced dialogue other than the odd security guard saying a line or two before opening a door.

>>1782118
>stopping at Atomic Edition and not playing the expansions
>Double pleb.
If anyone can tell me how to get DC and Life is a Beach to work with eduke32 I'd love to patrician the fuck up.

>>1782902
I suppose if you have DC and Life's A Beach in separate folders, you could tell EDuke32 to point to those folders instead of the default.
Otherwise, there's probably some guide for it on duke4.net or otherwise.

>>1782885
This is the stupidest post I've seen in the last twenty-four hours, and coming from someone who frequents /x/ that is REALLY saying something.

Half-Life is nothing like reading a book. Reading a book is nothing like playing Half-Life. And for fucks sake, if you want video games to be taken seriously as an art form, stop trying to compare them to other art forms.

"Citizen Kane is comparable to the works of Michelangelo" said no film critic ever.

>>1782902
put the DC and lifes a beach files in the autoload folder. start up eduke and select the one you want to play.

>>1782910
im sorry, not the autoload folder, just the base folder.

>>1782905
I think he's more implying you're a retard if you can't get through HL

Reminder: Doom 3 complete pack sale on steam has about 4 hours left.

>>1781929
>>1781868
>>1781704

I will never understand people who complain about this.

Each time I make a fresh install of a Build game (unless it's powerslave which has no mouselook) ; I go into setup.exe, and while configuring to WASD+Mouse ; I although INDIVIDUALLY change the sensitivity of the Y-axis of the mouse; which takes you only a few seconds ; and then mouselook is perfectly fine.
As for the diagonal 'issue', maybe I'm just used to it now, but I would have never known if people didn't talk about it all the time, I really don't think it's a problem.

For comparaison point, I am also NOT an FPS mouse aiming pleb, I can get very picky and precise about my mouse aiming, and I beat all of Quake3 in Nightmare difficutly when I was 13.

>>1782885
If I wanted to play a book I'd play and rpg, but if I want mindless action then I play a shooter.

>>1782936
*an

>>1782943
>>1782936
>an RPG
English is weird

>>1782132

>From her only rocket launcher

Oh

>spent $7.50 for the BFG edition just so I could get the DOOM 1 and 2 achievements for it
Scold me, I deserve it.

>>1782962

nah, you're clearly trying to get a reaction from us

>>1782949
>an historic occasion
It's English I ain't gotta explain shit

>>1782949
this is understandable because of how the letter R is pronounced
>>1782964
this on the other hand i will never understand and will always view as wrong

apologies for offtopic, have a webbum

>>1782964
What stupid fuck doesn't say the H in historian?

>>1782935
Too agitated for me

>>1782972
posh people who name their daughters "Sara"

>>1782980
Even Brazil puts the H on the end of Sara,

>>1782823
>Quake III
>not moddable
What? It had hundreds of mods.

>>1782949
RPG is typically pronounced "Arr Pee Gee".

It's a vowel sound at the beginning, regardless of what the spelling is...

>>1782972
bongistanians.

>>1782823
It would be fucking stupid of them to claim to take inspiration from a Doom fan mod and NOT t o give mod tools. They should add least give a map editor if they want it to be a real doom game.

I just switched to Bandicam, seems to be performing MUCH better than Fraps.

I still think the compression for Webms are not good enough. Which Webm converter do you anons use? I'm using "Free Webm Video Converter".

>>1782996
Look up "webm for retards"

>>1782996
Do... do you have autoaim and freelook
at the same time

>>1782996

I've had good luck with Open Broadcaster or whatever its called

I never got to play any of the DooMalikes they made with the same engine, just DooM and DooM II. I'm PROBABLY not going to want to play every single one, so which are the best?

>>1783004
They're all good, but Hexen and Strife are the most different from Doom. Heretic is pretty much just Doom: Fantasy Edition and Hacx was originally a DEHACKED mod, so until 2.0 comes out (never) it's rather passable.

>>1783004

If you liked doom 1 & 2 and want to up the challenge, you'll want to play plutonia.

If you enjoy the puzzle solving and key hunting of some doom levels, you'll want to play Hexen, otherwise SKIP IT. It'll drive you insane.

Heretic is pretty lovely but doesnt get much love here for some reason, so maybe I'm wrong. I personally think it's really fun.

Strife is pretty unique in that it has non linear RPG elements. It tells an interesting story but the gameplay is occasionally a bit wonky. (weapons not doing as much damage as you feel they should, some enemies are very unforgiving, ammo and resources can get incredibly rare... Still pretty good though

>>1782469
Do me a favor and set sprite clipping to 'always'.

>>1783004
Heretic is Doom: Fantasy edition. It's got some new features, like an inventory system with fun gadgets, and overall fun level design. It's harder than Doom.

Hexen is like an adventure/puzzle game, more technologically advanced than heretic but it's a lot more repetitive since it consists of switch hunts in huge maps/hubs.

Strife is a very unique fps-rpg, and the most advanced doom engine game. There's dialogue and an actual storyline. It's quite cool.

Decide what sounds most interesting.

>>1782971
>mfw learning that the fully-charged punch in Project MSX deals over 6000 damage on a direct hit
Is MSX guy the strongest Doom mod character, barring the ones that are blatant cheating like the Russian Overkill characters? I'm pretty sure he could even kick Samus's ass.

Are there any Doom wads/mods that have elements similar to DoomRL? As in, classes, leveling up, upgradable weapons/crafting, etc.

>>1783004
Gotta play 'em all

>>1783020

Look up Kyle's DoomRPG and DoomRL Arsenal.

Two different wads that work together.

>>1782997
>>1783001

Didn't had much luck with them, but thanks anyway.

>>1783000
BFG is the only weapon in BD that has autoaim, to prevent hitscan abuse.

>>1782823

>Quake 3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom 3, Quake 4

Those games were moddable though, and Quake 3 has like 1,000 mods around.

>>1783021
>No Action Doom 2 or Harmony
Step it up

I'm sick of all the flunk Half-Life gets, I thought the game was brilliant and has to be one of my favourite video games of all time.

I recently played through it again and found it to be just as brilliant as the first time I played it.

>>1783008
What does that even do, I toggle through the options and nothing happens.

Why does Half-Life get so much hate? I thought the game was brilliant and has to be one of my favourite video games of all time.

I recently played through it again and found it to be just as brilliant as the first time I played it.

>>1783040
Half-Life was kind of part puzzle platformer and part FPS. If you don't really get the former than you'll have no fun with it as the latter, I guess.

>>1783004
One everyone forgot to mention: Chex Quest is a fun diversion, but it's also really easy/short because it was literally made for kids who turned in boxtops.

Still, it's pretty fun.

>>1783006
>>1783007
>>1783013
Thanks all. I think I'll do Heretic for now. Or maybe one of the RPGesque randomizers I see in this thread.

>>1783013
>It's harder than Doom.
u wot m8
no hitscanners, nothing even remotely comparable to the dickassery that is the archvile, practically harmless enemies like the sabreclaw

the weapons are weaker, sure, but that doesn't make the game harder if the enemies are also weaker.

>>1783047
Because it's not as good as Opposing Force.

So I started playing Zen Dynamics again, and I really like the weapons and music.

1) what weapon mods do y'all use?

2) are there any mods that have funky music, like in zen dynamics? As compared to metal.

>>1783047
You sure they didn't mean HL2? Because that didn't age so well.

S-so. I was talking about this on the chats and I was thinking if vr dooms would be kind enough to give me some feedback on this map pack I'm working on called Vile shatters.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45880&p=772669#p772516

I've gotten maps 1 - 6 done and #6 is really dying for a little feedback, specially on the balance side.

The maps should work with mods and im aiming to make them be bit mod friendly too and all, but ofcourse they custom monsters so bluh bluh who knows how they balance out with some things.

>>1782971
>>1782964
Yeah I know, it just catches me off guard when reading sometimes
Like the rule is to use "an" before a word that starts with a vowel, but the rule really should be worded better, since that's not really how it works
Native English speaker btw, it's just odd

>>1783084
>Like the rule is to use "an" before a word that starts with a vowel, but the rule really should be worded better, since that's not really how it works

Yes it is how it works, the rule is fine. You just need to understand that by 'vowel' they mean 'phonetic vowels'; and since we're talking about pronunciation, it's kind of a given.

>>1783072
Don't know about Zen Dynamics, but Beyond Reality has some cool non-metal music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmzqNmsUyLE though this isnt the best example of its music

>>1783065

This guy gets it.

>>1782971
>an historic

That's the only correct way to say it, anon, but feel free to speak incorrectly if it helps you sleep better.

>>1783065
>>1783090
Opposing force really is pretty damn excellent. It's still lauded as one of the best expansions for a game right?

Fuck, I remember playing it in multiplayer when it had just been released. That fucking barnacle weapon was hilarious.

Wrath of Cronos got an update, in case anyone missed it.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=35846

>>1783093
I must be the only one who likes Blue Shift more than OP Force. I even like Blue Shift more than HL itself. Blue Shift is the perfect summary of what Half Life is about with excellent level design, while I think Op Force is completely off. It adds tons of stuff and is longer than Blue Shift, but I don't find it consistent at all, tons of thing about it (including the level design, which i consider the most important) is pretty average.

>>1783092
yais me'lady, this 'ouse 'as an 'istoric 'eritage

>>1782996
Wow I didn't think doom could handle serious sam levels of hords

>>1783083
>Vile shatters
>Vile's Hatters

>>1783104

Personally, I just love all three of them. Just A++ stuff all across the map.

Sure, Blue Shift is short, but you know, I think people shouldnt frown so much upon short games. There's something to be said about shorter but tight and well paced games. Like Max Payne...

>>1783132

You must be new. This is hardly a new thing.

>>1783132

I take it you don't play Invasion mode either?

>>1782996
Is it possible to enable autoaim for all weapons so I can restrict aiming to 1 axis?

>>1782996
I used Open Broadcaster Software to capture a video (adjusted to 60 fps) and then ran the output through WebM for Retards.

>>1783142
Player Setup, change Autoaim to Always.

>>1783020
wrath of cronos is pretty cool, while it lacks upgradable weapons, but it makes up for that in skill trees

>>1783154
WoC is DoomRPG/DoomRl for poor.

>>1783135

Archvile Plays TF2.png

>>1783168
lol xD

>>1783135
Holy shit I just realized Ive been calling them "Archville"s instead of VILEs
You know, like a name of a ocation?

>>1783174

Welcome to Arch-Ville.

Population : Your exploded corpse.

>>1783174
You're kidding right?
They are actually called ArchVILLE

Going through Masters of Doom.

So I'm really disagreeing with them on a lot of these firings. So Scott Hall's ideas are not jelling well with Doom. So why should this mean he gets fired? They should say "these are nice ideas. Just not for this game" and then give him some projects to work on. Maybe he could work on something in the vein of Commander Keen while the rest of the guys work on Doom? They're swimming in money so I doubt having another guy working on side projects would hurt the company too much.

Then Romero's firing. Okay so he messed up a bunch of ways. He's hype up Quake to anyone who'd ask, when it was all based on nothing. He slacked off working on Quake with the "rockstar" lifestyle, deathmatching and so forth. And he was too stubborn to realize that his original vision was too much for Quake, and that it would work best as a Doom 3D game. Is that really enough to fire him though? Romero was such an asset. All they needed was for him to work more, and to work more with Carmack. But Carmack seems to have really started to hate Romero and wouldn't budge. I'm thinking the answer is more about their relationship than the specifics. Probably just known each other too long and personalities can clash.

it does explain why I don't like Doom II maps as much as Doom 1 maps. Romero didn't make that many in II.

Also I have noted a few errors. The book says that The Crusher has a Cyber Demon being crushed. Unless I misheard it and he said "Spider Demon". Also he says that Imps are "bigfoot like" with brown fur. I never thought of that. Is that true? I've always seen them as hairless and having brown skin.

It seems like they throw away these talented guys too quickly if they don't fit into the particular project they're working on at the time.

ok

>>1783192
meant to reply to >>1783185

>>1783174
even though i know full well "cacodemon" is pronounced similar to "cacophony", i still read it as "cake-o-demon"

>>1782823
Doom 3 actually had decorate like files (.def) that made editing gguns/monsters incredibly easy

>>1783207
I used to call them Cocoademons. Chocolatey.

>>1782915

and that's a retarded thing to say. If you do read books and play through Half Life all that will happen is you will realize how shitty the story to that game is. That's it.

>>1783229
> reading lore books
> expecting them to enhance your gameplay
If you likes starwars you should check out some of those books too. They're sure to add a whole new level.

>>1783132
Oh, it can handle extreme amounts of enemies. But if you go completely overboard all the AI checks will eat your CPU. See: Nuts.wad. It has 10k monsters.

>>1783185
Meanwhile Willits still didn't get fired after both Doom 3 and Rage bombed, that fat cunt.

>>1782935

ITS ALL OVER NOW

>>1783249

Can you imagine if Romero was around for Doom 3? He could have saved it. Romero was right when he decided to move Doom away from a cinematic Half-life style game to an action game with little story. Doom 3 was just so sluggish and boring. It felt like it took forever for anything to happen. So much blah blah blah from idiots. I just want to shoot demons.

And Tom Hall's ideas aren't bad. They were after all basically Half-Life before there was Half-Life. If they had listened to him and gave him his own game to make, they could have made a half-life game years before the actual half-life.

These firings really hurt ID in the long term.

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>>1782904
Pic is my eduke32 folder. All the guides I can find are OS specific and don't include my OS.

>>1783113
It's funny because posh people (in Britain that is) do pronounce the h, but they still use "an". I don't fucking understand it.

>>1782558
Late but eh

>>1782558
Here's a good one

Jesus christ playing with plain zdoom while already nauseous was such a bad decision. I should have thought to look for dev builds of gzdoom sooner but it's too late now, I have to go lay down.

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>>1783294
>2.5D mouselook

>>1783271

But DOOM 3 had no storyline, the only reason it was slow and boring was because of the shitty design. That being said, I actually don't think DOOM 3's a bad game-- just not what it could've been.

I don't recall it being Romero's idea either that DOOM should've had no storyline, I believe that was Carmack's idea. As I recall, Carmack said something like "a storyline in a video game is like a story in a porno."