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How does /vr/ feel about reproduction carts? Have you ever bought or made any of your own? Also how do you feel about people who destroy existing NES games to make a repro?

>> No.1768748

>>1768719
>that lineup
>leon

Fuck this takes me way back, when NES reproductions was a thing years ago. I love how some of the labels looked kinda crude, and some of them even had really crude, squarish Nintendo logos.

As for destroying games, with the exception of Just Breed (which needs Gemfire), thankfully most of those games were made for use with one of the most common mappers ever made. Bo Jackson's Baseball will not be missed, but Mario 3 will be. And I have a collection of reproduced games, box and all. I like having them, it's like getting a brand new game years ago.

>> No.1768751

I would never buy a re-made cart intended to play the game. either buy the original or fucking emulate if you have to.
It's like buying Oreos, only to find out later that they're the shitty knock-offs.

>> No.1768754

Some repros go upwards of $60. Overtime an everdrive is cheaper and you only have to sacrifice one cart for them usually.

>> No.1768773

Is there anywhere currently to buy a bunch of blank/empty NES carts and boards?

I'm actually really curious as to how places like RetroUSB make their carts for homebrew games like Battle Kid. According to their site they're using brand new original carts and boards. Apparently they used to sell empty carts but don't anymore. I'm interested in making my own reproductions for the fun of it and I refuse to destroy any game (no matter how shitty) to do it. I can't find any info on this at all.

>> No.1768778

I've bought a few in the past for the novelty, but I've since wised up and realized that a flash cart would be cheaper in the long run.

>> No.1768808

They're neat for the gimmick, but cost way too much.

I've seen them at the Midwest Gaming Classic, but can't bring myself to spend $40-60 on a rom.

>> No.1768858

They're a bit too expensive for me, especially since it would more than likely end up sitting on a shelf forever. I'd be interested in making my own sometime, though. Only problem is I know nothing about it so I probably never will.

>> No.1768878

>>1768773
donor carts

>> No.1768882

>>1768773
They used to be nfl games.

>> No.1768902

Translated game repros are cool and good

>> No.1768927

>>1768719
Kind of cool for games you didn't get in your region originally but the prices on some are a bit ridiculous.

Depends on what they are destroying i mean if they destroy sports games i couldn't care less but if they are wrecking good games then i would be pissed

>> No.1768942

>>1768878
>>1768882
Not true. http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?cPath=30

All of these are using original see-through NES carts.

>> No.1768943

>>1768808
>They're neat for the gimmick, but cost way too much.
My exact thoughts
They would be cool as shit to own, but given their very nature of being hand-made they cost way too much to be practical.

>> No.1768956

>>1768927
>it only bothers me if they destroy games that I like
That's horribly selfish and myopic of you.

>> No.1768957

>>1768719
>How does /vr/ feel about reproduction carts?
I feel it's ok as long it's a text-heavy that was never released in english.
>Have you ever bought or made any of your own?
I'd like to make my own, but the equipment would be a significant investment, and by the time I got gud, and sourced parts and donors, I might as well just buy them.
>Also how do you feel about people who destroy existing NES games to make a repro?
It's ok as long as they're not destroying a rare game to make one. Nobody's gonna miss a copy of Football or Bases Loaded.

I'll probably start buying repros once I've got all the official releases I want.

>> No.1768960

>Hero Quest

I liked that game when I was a kid. It was like Baby's First RPG. Never knew there was an NES version.

>> No.1768963
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>>1768719

>HeroQuest

Oh my fucking God.

I remember that as a board game. There was a warrior, a wizard, an elf, and a dwarf. All of the figurines were plastic, along with the skeletons and goblins and knight-looking bastards. It had a few boards to fuck around with, too.

My father brought home that boxed set when we were strapped for cash, and pitched it as the best thing ever. My parents played the shit out of that game, painted the little dudes with cheap-ass acrylic paint, and wrote their own adventures when they ran out of the ones that came with the set. It's been almost twenty-five years since I even thought about that.

Fuck, now that I think about it, I haven't even seen it in that long.

brb, orderan from ebay for impromptu father's/mother's day gift

>> No.1768972

>>1768956
That's not what i said dumb ass

>> No.1768992

>>1768956
It's simple economics. For sports games, there are far more copies on the market than there are people who are looking to purchase. I was in a local video game store today and they had dozens of sports games in a big bargain box they had, mostly N64 and SNES. They had AT LEAST eight copies of NFL Quarterback Club 98 and 99 each alone, and this was a small store.

In the most literal sense of the word, sports games are expendable at this point.

>> No.1769009

>>1768773
>I refuse to destroy any game (no matter how shitty) to do it
>getting emotionally invested in plastic conduits for shitty NFL games 25 years ago

C'mon man. I love games, but saying things like this is embarrassing.

>> No.1769019

>>1768963
>that feel when people remember things I remember.

I try to strike up conversation about it and similar games on /tg/ all the time.

>> No.1769023

>>1768719
if it is a shitty game please blank it

I do like repo carts

>> No.1769026

>>1769009
We're going to run out of shitty NES games eventually.

Reminder that there are people out there right now using Super Mario Bros. 3 carts and actual good games as donor carts.

>> No.1769036

>>1769026
>We're going to run out of shitty NES games eventually.
When we come to that point I will side with the argument of preserving them. As things are now, however, there are millions of shovelware NES games on the market and people want to make a few thousand (if extremely generous, 15,000) homebrew/repro carts. As things are now, that's barely going to put a dent in the supply.

>> No.1769037

>>1769019

I used to try, but it never really took off.

Then I fell off the net for three years, due to being gainfully employed, and find myself back because I finally overcame my usefulness with orneriness.

In any case, ELF WAS BEST, ALL OTHERS ARE PLEB

>> No.1769038

>>1768972
Yes it is. Here's what you said:
>i mean if they destroy [games I don't like] i couldn't care less but if they are wrecking [games I like] then i would be pissed

>>1769009
It's not embarrassing; it's right. If you claim to love video games, then you should be opposed to their destruction. Just like a lover of literature shouldn't be a book-burner.

>>1768992
I have like four copies of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. But just because the market's flooded with those things doesn't mean it's okay to burn them.

>> No.1769040

>>1769036

Whatever happened to those E.T. cartridges?

>> No.1769045

>>1769037
>dwarf master race
>never trigger a single trap

>>1769026
First they came for the sports games. And I didn't speak up because I'm not a sports fan.
Then they came for the first party Nintendo games. And I didn't speak up because I'm not a Mario fan...

>> No.1769046

>>1769038
>It's not embarrassing; it's right. If you claim to love video games, then you should be opposed to their destruction. Just like a lover of literature shouldn't be a book-burner.
Just like the people who love books so much, they refuse to allow libraries to get rid of old, outdated reference books?

>> No.1769053

>>1769040
Still lots available
>http://www.amazon.com/E-T-Extra-Terrestrial-atari-2600/dp/B0002VK8YA
And though I get what you're hinting at, in that situation a huge portion of the carts were taken out of circulation intentionally by a multimillion dollar company. That's astronomical compared to the market force of a few to several dozen people who make small numbers of repros.

>>1769038
>I have like four copies of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. But just because the market's flooded with those things doesn't mean it's okay to burn them.
Personally I believe that, with shovelware, it is perfectly okay to gut/destroy them if you can then turn it into a product (eg: a repro) that people then will want to buy for a higher amount of money than what it was previously worth. That's simple free market investment.

>> No.1769056

>>1769045
>First they came for the sports games...
are you actually serious or are you attempting satire?

>> No.1769058

>>1768719
>reproduction carts
Yes. Please. Saturate the market with your fakes.

>> No.1769062

>>1769038

>It's not embarrassing; it's right. If you claim to love video games, then you should be opposed to their destruction.

Considering that worthless games are being brought back into the market it's not actually a big deal.

>> No.1769063

>>1769045

>traps
>fucking traps

Admittedly less of a problem in DragonStrike, which had the added bonus of the Thief Duo and the video that came with it.

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>>1769058

>> No.1769085

>>1769045
>implying we'll ever run out of shovelware sports donor carts

Like another anon said, repro carts have sales figures in the thousands. There are millions of sports games in circulation.

>> No.1769095

>>1769085
The point he's making is that not all repro carts can be done with any old game. Sunsoft games, for example, have to be done on Sunsoft boards. Pretty sure Gimmick has to be done on Return of the Joker or some slightly uncommon Sunsoft game.

Repro carts made some sense a few years ago when Everdrives didn't exist. In 2014, however, there's absolutely no point, especially when jerkoffs sell the repros for $50+.

>> No.1769103

>>1769085
>there are millions
Yeah... SIX million.

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>>1769040
>E.T.

>> No.1769245

>>1769095
Gimmick had to be done on a Return of the Joker board or the Famicom version of Gremlins 2 (US version was converted to MMC3). If you wanted the Famicom version's expanded sound, you could take an off-the-shelf Yamaha chip and solder it to the board.

How Sunsoft managed to persuade Nintendo USA into making custom cartridges is beyond me. Despite not playing well with them, it seems like Nintendo was also very selective with their third parties. Supposedly they wouldn't do anything for Square, such as custom technology, while they would for Enix. Simply because Dragon Quest was much, MUCH more popular than Final Fantasy and Nintendo could actually gain something from it.

Also, there's a guy called Infinite NES Lives that sells custom NES cartridges, including Sunsoft's FME-7 boards. All Gimmick Repros nowadays are made with this board.

http://www.infiniteneslives.com/aux4.php

>> No.1769372

>>1769245
>If you wanted the Famicom version's expanded sound, you could take an off-the-shelf Yamaha chip and solder it to the board.
Can this also be done with Castlevania 3?

>> No.1769379

>>1769372
Not to my knowledge. The VRC6 is completely proprietary, while the Sunsoft 5B uses an off the shelf product.

>> No.1769518

I coud care less if someone destroys a game to make a repro. They own the cart and can do as they please.

>> No.1769580

Saw some jackass selling snes repros of rock man/forte on eBay the other day.......for $120.

>> No.1769702

>>1768719
I like them and have no problem with them.
Most of the time they destroy old sports games that no one really cares about anyway.

While I don't own a repro cart I do own some original SFC carts that's been replaced with an English ROM.

>> No.1769720

You guys are making a fundamental misconception

>NES
>Sports games

Madden debuted on consoles with the Genesis

>> No.1769738

>>1768719
The only repros I own are Nintendo World Championship 1990 and Vs. Mario from RetoUSB.
They are awesome because of the dip switches, I don't think you can change the settings of the game on a flashcard. For other games I am going to get a Everdrive.

>> No.1769742

>>1769056
I know Sevenleaf is a giant faggot and all that, but how do you not recognize that quote?

>> No.1769758

>>1769720
Sports games existed before Madden, you know.

>> No.1769759

I want to get some SNES repros. Are the ones from gamereproductions.com good? Any complaints from them?

>> No.1769871

>>1769742
I fully recognized the quote and thought it was a gross exaggeration/dramatization of the situation

>> No.1770123
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1770123

Rate my repros, /vr/

>> No.1770141

I buy super famicom games and make english repros for myself

>> No.1770149

>>1769758
Yes but they weren't the abundance of sports games people usually destroy, NES sports games were usually games like punch-out, slalom, super dodgeball, arch rivals, nintendo world cup. Games you should not destroy.

>> No.1770156

I think some are justified if you prefer real hardware.

Mario RPG and Kirby's Dreamland 3 for example are ones I would buy only because I'm a britfag and those games don't fit, or even run on PAL systems.

They are also both incompatible with flashcarts, and expensive to buy legit nowadays.

>> No.1770192

>>1770149
Uhuh, and what about Bases Loaded? George Foreman's KO Boxing? Bo Jackson's Baseball? Literally every shite game developed by Beam Software?

>> No.1770286

>>1770123
>that cheap looking font on Rainbow Bell Adventures and Sanrio World Smashball

I love it.

>> No.1770347

>>1769036
This. I'd rather have my repro cart of Summer Carnival '92 RECCA than shitty game #922.

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1770795

>>1768808
>but can't bring myself to spend $40-60 on a rom
All video games on a cart or optical disc are by definition ROMs you ignorant savage.

>> No.1770827

>>1769738
>I don't think you can change the settings of the game on a flashcard
You could always have a different ROM for each setting you want to play.

>>1770123
>Star Fox 2 cart
While cool, it bugs me that a Super FX game had to be sacrificed to make that.

>> No.1771380

>>1770123
10/10

How is the Zelda game and Star Fox 2? In the past I've considered buying copies

>> No.1771547
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1771547

I don't mind repros. I own one of Undercover Cops for the Super Famicom. Got it for $15, cart only with label. Works fine on both my Super Famicom and SNES.

>> No.1772659

I make reproduction games and sell them as legitimate copies on craigslist and to used vidya stores that I hate. I leave a form of signature on them, but nobody will ever know what it is except for me.

Currently I make NES, SNES, GBA, and GBC games. I've been experimenting with N64 for a long time to try to bring costs down but I don't think it will happen any time soon.

>> No.1772685

>>1772659
You're a fucking scum bag.

How much money have you made? How rare are the games you're faking?

No but seriously, fuck you buddy.

>> No.1772708

>>1772659
Curious, what games do you do? Got any pics?

>> No.1772713

>>1772659
Makes me cum hearing this you fucking filthy fuck

>> No.1772718
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>>1772659
I would love to do something like this with rare NES games.

>make a really close repro of Flintstones Surprise at Dinosaur Peak
>it's available only as a buy it now for $30
>'haha this guy doesn't know what he has'
>it does play Flintstones Dino Peak
>opens cartridge
>it's a repro
>inside is a folded piece of paper with a version of pic related
>buyer will seriously, unironically complain about buying a counterfeit for 1/20th of the game's real pricce

>> No.1772792

>>1770192
Hey, fuck you, don't talk shit about Bases Loaded.

>> No.1772812

If you like owning separate carts of each game and don't want to pay out the ass for certain games, then by all means go ahead. After all, it is the same exact ROM, just burned to a different EPROM that wasn't specifically intended for that game. Technically it's no different than playing it on an "authentic" cart. I think the prices for most of them aren't very justified though, so unless you just like to have separate carts for everything you're better off getting an everdrive/powerpak/etc.
Also, why do so many people get so anal about repro games? How does dumping a ROM then burning it back onto another EPROM alter the contents of the game in any manner?

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1774085

>>1768748
>I love how some of the labels looked kinda crude
pic related

>> No.1775101

If you love a fan translated game or a very rare game so much you want to physically own it, repo carts can be pretty neat,

But yeah, if think in terms of money, a flash cart might be better in the long run.

>> No.1775780

>>1771547
>$15 for a repro
>FUCKIN WHERE!?

>> No.1775829

>>1770827
>it bugs me that a Super FX game had to be sacrificed to make that.
A Super FX 2 game, which means they sacrificed a Super Mario World 2, DOOM, or Winter Gold cart. I could care less about the latter two.