/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1766287]

About to play Fallout for the first time. Tagging Small Guns and Speech as per most people's recommendation. What should my last skill be? I was thinking Lockpicking or Computers.

Also, honestly, this'll be the first retro cRPG I actually play - or rather the first isometric one - any general tips for a newbie?

[Anonymous No.1766354]

Fallout is a really fun game. I would go with lock picking over computers but i never really messed with computers that much in the game. Also you should make a habit of saving often.

[Anonymous No.1766441]

Tag the steal skill and loot from everyone.

[Anonymous No.1766450]

>>1766287
Just play it like you want, see how you fuck up, retry till success.

[Anonymous No.1766480]

>>1766287
Fallout 1's much more forgiving than F2 (Particularly because if you're dropped in to the temple of trials as your first cRPG you're going to probably quit temporarily in frustration), so you really can't go wrong with whatever you get. As far as the weapons are concerned, typically as you go up the weapon sizes, you wind up with more powerful weapons overall at the cost of them not showing up until later. Fists and melee start out very efficient and easy to find stuff for, small guns seems to be pretty easy to get equipment for and fares a little better than melee skills, big guns and energy weapons tend to be late game powerhouses. That's not to say you can't do well with any class of weapon (Damage has a lot to do with scoring critical hits to bypass armor and such), it's just that as a general rule the more advanced the weapon, the later you get it and the stronger it is. This bares mentioning because in Fallout 3 and NV, you're likely to find crappy versions of all classes of weapons while in Fallout, even the weakest energy weapon is a lot better than guns of other classes and won't show up until later.

As for general tips, don't bother going through a lot of ammo as you'll usually have plenty (But don't go around blasting things on full auto with an SMG either, at least not until later in the game where you can reliably replenish your supply), feel free to level your skills past 100 because the benefits are linear and have no cap, and note that even with strong armor, critical hits can go through it anyway and insta kill you, so save often.

[Anonymous No.1766892]

As far as SPECIAL allocation goes, Agility and Intelligence are probably the most vital and useful: the first for having action points to spend while in combat, the second for getting skill points to spend and actually talk and relate to others. Charisma on the other hand is nigh useless, since Speech is also determined by Intelligence, the far better stat, so if you are looking for a stat to salvage for points, look for it. Barter is not that good, since after a while you get so much vendor thrash it's actually difficult to go broke. Gambling too is not so good. Remember that most of the out-of-combat utility skills, like Repair and Science, are used for "quest" checks like repairing a generator for some village and such: having a bunch of unspent points can help if you are in those situations. Remember that the game is on a clock, so try not to waste all your days in resting for getting your HP back. Crit fishing is a pretty valid strategy, maybe too much for my tastes, so if you can aim for the eyes or spend some points in Luck.

[Anonymous No.1766909]

Aww yiss a Fallout thread, I just got into FO1 and I think it's a really great RPG.

A tip for everyone who's about to start, don't be a dick to the NPCs, if you have to, know your limit and save often, if you keep calling an important NPC names they'll stop talking to you or worse, turn hostile. Might as well go with the 'stupid' route if you don't want to interact with NPCs.

[Anonymous No.1766915]

you should get lock pick. I am playing fallout online 2 right now its like fallout 1 and 2 but as a m m o the wastelands are harsh you lose everything on death and their are pas

[Anonymous No.1766997]

>>1766287
>Lockpicking

No

I'm guessing you played the shitty 3d games

[Anonymous No.1767032]

The time restraint really threw me off when I played FO1. I played 2 first though. It also made me notice how terribly written most of FO1 is.

[Anonymous No.1767215]

>>1767032
I was really upset about how many times in FO1 you were booted off a conversation, forcing you to start the thing over again, if what you said didn't piss off the NPC. Having dialogue hubs like many games would follow to have was a blessing.

[Anonymous No.1767279]

>>1766997
lockpick is very very useful in FO 1 and 2. in fact the easiest and best build is a small guns, speech, and lockpick build.

what should he tag for a 1st run then?

also agility of 10 is mandatory, and get enough perception to have sniper at the endgame

[Anonymous No.1767294]

>>1767279
There's like three locked doors in fo1 that are actually scripted to use the skill correctly.

All the plot doors are trivial to open.

No reason to get it above 30%

[Anonymous No.1767302]

>>1767279
also it's very handy to have a high lockpick in the earlygame areas like junktown, the hub, etc to get some much needed cash and equipment.

if youre really worried about getting a second weapon skill like EW you can tag it later or just dump tons of points in it when you have enough money for books for other skills.

keep in mind the toughest part of the game is the first half or so. once you get past the first main quest, the game is significantly easier.

shit, you can easily beat the game with the sniper rifle or 223 and stay small guns all the way.

[Anonymous No.1767323]

So I recently picked up Fallout 2 in a steam sale, and I'm trying really hard to enjoy it. The problem is that the first few areas of the game seem to be nothing but dice rolls that I'm at the mercy of.

Does the game move away from the RNG fest as it goes on, or am I just bad? If I'm fucking up, how do I get better?

My character build is 4 STR / 7 PER / 4 END / 8 INT / 7 AG / 5 CHR / 5 LK, have small frame as a trait, and I tagged small guns, doctor, and speech. Did I do it wrong?

[Anonymous No.1767567]

>>1767323
You could have been more optimized but this build is not wrong and perectly viable for beating the game, although you'll probably be inconvenienced by your carrying capacity early on. But that's not a big deal, just a minor early inconvenience; you'll have NPCs to carry your stuff, not to mention the Highwayman.

So yeah, sounds like a fine, capable build; doesn't really raise any flags for me.

[Anonymous No.1767576]

>retro cRPG
Retro classic RPG?

[Anonymous No.1767584]

>>1767576
Computer RPG you dummy.

[Anonymous No.1767589]

>>1767584
That's retarded.

[Anonymous No.1767591]

>>1767589
Considering they were created when RPG meant tabletop RPG, it's pretty not retarded you fucking clod.

[Anonymous No.1767597]

>>1767591
Yeah but see, this isn't /tg/; it's retarded.

[Anonymous No.1767604]

>>1767597

[Anonymous No.1767606]

>>1767576
retro console RPG

[Anonymous No.1767616]

>>1767323
All traditional-style RPGs are RNG heavy. However in Fallout you can easily work to counteract it. Get your relevant combat skill (in your case, small guns) up to the 120-150 range and you will have a 95% chance to hit most of the time.

[Anonymous No.1769460]

>>1766287
>Tagging Small Guns
Like, sure, if you don't want to have any fun, Anon.

[Anonymous No.1769480]

>>1769460
you dont know the gauss-rifle right? its like YOU dont know fun. headshotting people over 50 yards for 200+crits sure isnt fun......

[Anonymous No.1769491]

>>1766287

If you can't handle the abstracted travel, don't bitch about how it's a shit game because it's not like the Bethesda games, and then make threads bitching about it for a week.

Just FYI. Enjoy yourself, learn from your mistakes, download and read the manual if you haven't got one. Not only will it teach you what you need to know, it's one of the better manuals ever written.

Have a good time. That's what games are meant to be about.

[Anonymous No.1769542]

>>1769480
The problem is that sums up the depth of the isometrics Fallouts' combat: fish for crits, do ridiculous amounts of damage, repeat ad nauseam.

[Anonymous No.1769934]

>>1766915

Playing as well. FOline2 server I assume?

[Anonymous No.1770094]

>>1769542
You can get a Bozar and mow everything down with burst too.

[Anonymous No.1770120]

>>1766287
Lock picking or science.

[Anonymous No.1770127]

>>1767323
Bait the enemies into coming at you, attack, then retreat.

Stick and move, man.

[Anonymous No.1770140]

>>1766287
I would take Energy Weapons and switch to them later in the game.

[Anonymous No.1770259]

>>1766915
anon, where did you downloaded fallout online 2? I want to give it a try

[Anonymous No.1770545]

>>1770259
fonline2.com
over 10 seconds in Google.

[Anonymous No.1771291]

are you able to store your shit in any container/area in fallout 1 without it despawning?

[Anonymous No.1771352]

>>1771291
Yeah. You can store things in any container and it won't disappear. The Brother Hood of Steel even give you a room to store stuff in when you become an initiate.

[Anonymous No.1771421]

>>1771352
thanks anon much appreciated

[Anonymous No.1772801]

>>1770094
I found bursts to be quite underwhelming to be fair. I never managed to do anything better that what I could do with an aimed shot, possibly on the eyes or the head. Obviously, this is accounting Better Criticals, but still, bursts never did any serious critical (and truth to be told, more damage than a single non aimed shot) that could help me, while aiming got me though both games.

[Anonymous No.1773135]

So why did the Enclavefa build a giant face on their oil rig?

[Anonymous No.1773148]

>>1767294
Stealing that loot tho

[Anonymous No.1773149]

>>1773135
It could have been there on the first place.

[Anonymous No.1775881]

>>1766287
>any general tips for a newbie?

Download fallout 3 and play that.

[Anonymous No.1775889]

Message for OP regarding >>1775881

[Anonymous No.1775938]

>>1775889
Fallout 3 is easier.

[Anonymous No.1775941]

>>1767279
>agility of 10 is mandatory

That's always one thing I hated about the old Fallouts, agility always felt disproportionately important compared to the other stats. You can get by with very little of any other stat (Except for maybe intelligence for skills), but you're in for a really hard time if you want to play a low agility character. Traits like Bruiser just complicate it further.

[Anonymous No.1775949]

>>1775938
Doesn't mean the first two aren't good.

[Anonymous No.1775954]

>>1772801
I'm the other way on bursts. I always think the best combat strategy is to of course aim for the eyes with superior accuracy, but if you take the perk that won't let you aim, having a high critical build with a burst weapon's pretty great. Lot of bullets flying at the enemy, if they critical, it's almost certainly going to gib anything you shoot at if you roll an ignore armor critical. The only issue is that you're not rolling as many criticals until you get sniper, so at best you'll only be scoring a crit every fourth hit rather than 90% of the time like an eye shot.

[Anonymous No.1775958]

>>1775881
>>1775938

>announcing this hard that you're that stupid asshole who ragequit Fallout 1 because of abstracted travel, bitched about how the Bethesda crap was better, and then made threads about it for a week

We're all laughing at your stupidity, anon.

[Anonymous No.1776015]

I feel like dumping a few stuff from Fallout 2

[Anonymous No.1776025]

>>1776015

[Anonymous No.1776030]

>>1776025

[Anonymous No.1776034]

>>1776030

[Anonymous No.1776037]

>>1776034

[Anonymous No.1776038]

>>1776037

[Anonymous No.1776043]

>>1776038

[Anonymous No.1776046]

>>1776043
And the last one. Enjoy.

[Anonymous No.1776079]

>>1776015
My god, that fucking part. I hate Fallout 2 so much but this fucking part.

[Anonymous No.1776217]

So Im playing melee after finding the super sledge and some power armor, is there any reason to bump my Melee skill past the point that I can hit people in the eyes at 95%?

[Anonymous No.1776234]

>>1767597

>this much damage control because you made an ass of yourself

It's an anonymous board so stop trying to save face. You said something retarded and got called on it, move the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.1776238]

>>1776234

That post is three days old bro.

[Anonymous No.1776640]

>>1775938
>It's easier so it's better.
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.1777646]

>>1775958
All that projection.

[Anonymous No.1777670]

>>1777646
Hi stupid asshole. Are you gonna talk about wandering through a desert wasteland was too much like wandering through a desert wasteland again?

[Anonymous No.1777687]

>>1777670
I never made any threads about fallout. Assumptions just make a ass of you and me.

[Anonymous No.1777764]

Just stopping by to drop picture of me killing 3 aliens for 8AP from this far.

[Anonymous No.1780802]

>>1777764
I see you have the restoration project installed.

[Anonymous No.1781185]

>>1780802
Yis I had. Great thing. Everyone should play with it installed, cause it's not really a mod, it's just making the game as it should've been made.

[Anonymous No.1781202]

>>1777646
You're a moron.

[Anonymous No.1782345]

>>1781202 see >>1777687