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What about a retro games "making of" thread?

>Bonus points if it has technical stuff

>> No.1752053

>Chrash Bandicoot 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9LBGhQdRMs

>> No.1752057

>Crash Bandicoot 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP2kAtRjDr4

>> No.1752061

>CTR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMHYrCZBmk0

No bumping

>> No.1752860

>>1752052
is a promotional video with some "making of" parts in it okay?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy8tOMw_8HY

>> No.1752880

>>1752052

Here's a really old one I was watching yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihh-2UHY_VI

>> No.1752883
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Sonic Adventure development.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_uqhqCmHXw

>> No.1752886

Mortal Kombat 3 making of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVi5KT3Flok

>> No.1752891
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Did anyone buy the Sega Mega Drive Ultimate Collection? It had great interviews although the most interesting content was locked behind achievements.

Reiko Kodama on several flagship Sega titles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGcci94jkss

>> No.1752893

Making of Solstice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=894_PNqBkx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqhLSNCJCBc

Original Prince of Persia behind the scenes shots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC3WEwSJoHs

>> No.1752904

>>1752891
I have it for PSP. Has a lot of options and extras. Emulation is accurate as far as I can tell.

>> No.1752906

>>1752052
>What about a retro games "making of" thread?

Learn assembly language for the cpu of the system.

>> No.1752909

>>1752904
I just noticed that the PS3 version is not the same. It has more games like the Streets of Rage games.

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http://youtu.be/zD1ETfxsdAA

>> No.1752918

>playlist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVgokAf416Q&feature=share&list=PLhHuO4iQySgHXk9-KhU-MNLAqW6QeAi_f

Pretty neat warts 'n' all series on Die Hard Trilogy, that covers a full range, from technical behind the scenes stuff, to general fannying about.

>> No.1752983

>>1752918
wee fanny detected, by the way

>> No.1753025

>>1752906
B-but I just want some "making of" videos.

>> No.1753067

http://all-things-andy-gavin.com/2011/02/02/making-crash-bandicoot-part-1/
All the way up to 13th part (some are just Crash-related, not completely about crash)

>> No.1753084

>>1752860
It's okay, but you didn't win the bonus point, sorry.
Enjoy your stay

>> No.1753124

>>1752906
What are you implying? The games weren't made from start to finish in Assembly, but knowing processor assembly can help in understanding parts of the ROM and what the developers had in mind.

>> No.1753138

>>1752057

So Mark Cerny has always seemed like a serial killer pervert.

>> No.1753228

The making of Spyro 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg9VD1H1uWo and 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pCo4hhtp4..

Also, based Stewart Copeland on making the soundtrack for the games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQq6rXdFGwE

>> No.1753359

>>1752918
I really liked this one. I was already a big fan of Die Hard Trilogy, and these videos not only help show why it was a bit of a janky game, but how it was a small team of dudes trying to scrape it together and make the coolest game they could with the license, sticking in features any way they knew how. Check out that primitive motion capture!

>> No.1753660
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This isn't a "Making Of", but there's a lot of cool things you can learn from old games.

>> No.1753704
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>>1752052
This is for Thief II.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTwrEfES5Q4

>> No.1753720

>>1753660
this is why romhacks are shit

>> No.1753735

>>1753660
As a game developer I find this pretty insightful. Thank you.

>> No.1753743

>>1753704
This came with Thief Gold right?

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>>1753735
you might find this interesting.
The coins in the first stage of mario 3 teach you how to fly.

>> No.1753749

>>1753720
That's what I thought, too, except I thought 'that's why SOME romhacks are shit'. Some romhacker have good insight on enemy placement and balance, giving a fun, challenging but fair, game.
Romhacks ARE by definition made by and for people who are already good at the original game, though. That makes a big difference.

>> No.1753751

>>1753720
Romhacks usually work under the assumption that you've played the original.

>> No.1753768

>>1753735
You'd be very interested in Design Club. It pretty much taught me how to see games like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH2wGpEZVgE

>> No.1753770

>>1752061
Thanks. I know someone who'd be interested in this...

>> No.1753846

>>1752914
>That Lead Artist

>> No.1753959

This thread is my shit.

>> No.1754494

>>1753959
Glad you enjoyed it, Anon.

>>1753735
Off-topic question:
Are you a hobbyst, indie, employer or employee? And where are you from?

>>1753768
Noice

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>>1753735
Well, I could do more of these, if you're interested.

I could've probably chosen a better game to do, but I was just amazed that a DOS PC game managed to lead me directly into the story.
Plus, since the other one was about enemy conveyance, I wanted to do one on gameplay conveyance.

If these get any bigger, I may have to switch to WebM
(1 of about 3 I think?)

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>>1755160

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>>1755164

>> No.1755292

>>1753768
Thanks, this is helpful.

>>1754494
Freelance game developer. I put out games on online marketplaces and get revenue through that. Sometimes I help people with programming problems too. I was a hobbyist for years before that.

(I'm from Slovenia)

>> No.1755294

>>1755160
>>1755164
>>1755173
Pretty cool, thanks.

>> No.1755469

>>1752061

>mfw I saw the sign.

>> No.1755489

MGS1 Beta version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOmR_oX7nDg

>> No.1755493

Saw this posted a couple of days ago, there's a lot of good shit in there, like how doom did raycasting and how early analog video games worked.

http://www.gatheryourparty.com/2014/07/08/5-genre-defining-games-forgotten-by-history/

>> No.1755494

Making of Lunar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDZmkXa74Q8

>> No.1757789
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Pic related goes into technical detail regarding the Atari VCS and the making of a couple of games for the system such as 'Combat' and 'Pitfall!'.

I'd also recommend Master of Doom by David Kushner. While it doesn't go into technical detail it does discuss some of the technical difficulties Carmack faced when creating the engines for Commander Keen and Doom. In the earlier chapters of the book you also get a sense of how being a hobbyist programmer back in the 80's was, which is neat.

>> No.1759523

What was retro game design like, and what changed from those times to current times?

>> No.1761602

>>1759523
This question requires a long answer, but the first thing I would say it's about the user inputs, the controllers, user interface and things like that.

>Like the firsts FPS didn't use mouse, shitty platformer characters impossible to control

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>>1753124

>The games weren't made from start to finish in Assembly

Some were.

>> No.1764270

>>1753749
>>1753751
these guys make good point
by assuming the player already knows the games basic concepts and the like the romhack developers have more freedom when making their levels even if they arent as clever

>> No.1764275

>>1761716
how is it not machine dependent? i thought all programs made to be sold on differing PCs were made with highlevel languages for this reason?

>> No.1764278

>>1764275

It's supplemented with C, it's not entirely written in ASM.

>> No.1764282

>>1764278
so C is used to cover all basses on things that differe between different processors? sorry im trying too learn about programming but i dont know much

>> No.1764303

>>1759523
Back then they made what they wanted to make, now they make what the suits tell them to make.

>> No.1764517

>>1764275
About 1% of the codebase is C fto wrap some Windows functions. I don't know any specifics. It was probably written only using i386 ASM so it will run on any modern x86 computer.

>> No.1765715

>>1764303
Then why do people shit on indie developers?

>> No.1765747

>>1752052
>>1764810

anyone interested in helping me?

>> No.1765752

>>1765715
Because the good ones can be counted on two hands and everyone else makes what the blogs tell them to make.