/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1745646]

What did I just beat? and why was it so fun?

Any one else on here play this?

[Anonymous No.1745678]

I have it sitting on my desk but I still haven't played it

No AC and it's too god damn hot and muggy for me to get comfy enough to play vidya for more than 10 minutes at a time

[Anonymous No.1745784]

>An unusual aspect about D is that it offers no options for pausing the game or saving progress, thereby forcing the player to experience the game in real time.

sounds tough in a fun way. Maybe I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.1745798]

check out Enemy Zero

[Anonymous No.1745836]

>>1745646
>what did I just beat.
Dracula the game.

[Anonymous No.1745851]

>>1745798
>go on amazon
>Look up complete copies
>$44+ shipping

Jesus, are Saturn games always this expensive? Usually I find them for $10 or less at my local retro shop.

[Anonymous No.1745895]

>>1745851
The good ones are. Most good saturn games can actually run anywhere from $60 to upwards of $300 (for Hyper Duel or PDS). $44 is actually not a bad deal, comparatively.

[Anonymous No.1745896]

>>1745851
>Jesus, are Saturn games always this expensive?

Anyone that's a US or Euro copy with some form of demand yeah. That's why people always try to hammer in on not only getting an AR cart but also a mod chip for your Saturn so you can just pirate the expensive games that require you to read what's going on and import the Japanese versions of games that don't.

[Anonymous No.1745934]

>>1745895
>>1745896

Damn shame. The Saturn is one of my favorite consoles, but it tends to get pricey unless I get lucky. I do have the AR cart, but i can't speak moon. Any imports I could get without a need to speak moon?

[Anonymous No.1745941]

>>1745934
>Any imports I could get without a need to speak moon?

Pretty much as long as it isn't a JRPG or adventure game like D you should be safe. Pretty much anything else could be found out through trial and error.

[Anonymous No.1745945]

>>1745851
>Jesus, are Saturn games always this expensive?

you have no idea.

[Anonymous No.1745957]

>>1745934
>do have the AR cart, but i can't speak moon. Any imports I could get without a need to speak moon?

there's a SHIT TON of fighters and Shmups.

You a Capcom fighter fan?

[Anonymous No.1745981]

>>1745957
Big time. I have all the Alpha games, but what else is there?

[Anonymous No.1745984]

>>1745981

it has hands down the best version of X-men vs Street Fighter, thanks to the ram cart option it actually lets you use the tag feature and all the Alpha games run at a much better frame rate

[Anonymous No.1745986]

Nigghtwarriors is always really great

[Anonymous No.1745991]

And while neither being Capcom or 2D fighting vipers was pretty cool

[Anonymous No.1745993]

bunch of KOF games too if thats your bag, I can't speak from experience on the saturn versions though, I imagine they're better than the PSX ports

[Anonymous No.1745995]

>MFW I remember jumping and being scared at it a few times when I played it over a decade ago

[Anonymous No.1745998]

One of the first CD Roms games of all time if I recall correctly, still have the CD around here somehere.

[Anonymous No.1746003]

>>1745993
oh yes. The Saturn versions of the KOF games put the PS1 versions to shame. That extra RAM does wonders.

[Anonymous No.1746006]

>>1746003
Stupid question here, does the AR let me play KoF or do I need to get the seperate RAM carts?

[Anonymous No.1746008]

>>1746006

depends on the AR but I think a lot of em function as RAM carts too

[Anonymous No.1746047]

>>1746003
yep, AR is good for 1MB and 4MB RAM cart games. No extra carts required.

[Anonymous No.1746064]

I did. I didn't really like it. Some creepy atmosphere, but the knight encounter pissed me the fuck off. And the constant:
LAURA

LAURA

LAUUUURA

LAUUUUUUUURRRRRA


LAAAAAAAUUUUUUUURRRRRAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.1746069]

>>1746064
You can skip the knight encounter if you know what colored buttons to press at the statues outside

[Anonymous No.1746073]

>>1746047

I remember Gameshark let you play imports with no modding, did AR do that too

[Anonymous No.1746470]

>>1745646
Looks like you beat a low-level programming language.

[Anonymous No.1746565]

Looks like you beat a D

[Anonymous No.1746617]

>>1746073
The 3-in-1 AR does everything a Gameshark does, plus acts as a 1MB and 4MB RAM cart. The AR is generally regarded as the better of the two.

[Anonymous No.1746702]

how is the second one on Dreamcast ?

[Anonymous No.1746879]

>>1746702
Extremely slow. I'd play Enemy Zero first.

[Anonymous No.1746885]

>>1746879
>enemy zero
how is the pc version ?

[NESfag No.1746890]

>>1746885
Same game, better graphics.

[Anonymous No.1746896]

>>1746617
It only acts as a 4mb cart, not a 1mb one. Two or three games are incompatible.

[Anonymous No.1746945]

>>1746896
Do you know which games it's incompatible with?

[Anonymous No.1747194]

>>1745784
It's not tough at all and it's pretty short.

>>1746064
Fuck yes. So annoying. I heard D2 on the DC is pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.1747206]

>>1747194
>I heard D2 on the DC is pretty awesome.
It's a lot of fun, but surprisingly short for a 4 disk game, and there is a lot of snow... Well worth playing though

[Anonymous No.1747240]

>>1747206
is it better than the first game?

[Anonymous No.1747241]

>>1747206
It seems like a lot of the PS1 era stuff had an excessive number of discs.. Some games anyways.

Parasite Eve and especially Parasite Eve 2 just feel like you have a disc transition at a very weird time. Parasite Eve 2 has a transition after the tutorial and first "level" if I recall, then everything else is played on disc 2, which is funny, because you can go back to the disc 1 area without an issue.

Then I'm playing Koudelka right now and its the same thing, 4 discs for a ~11 hour or so game casually.

And D I hear is only like 2 hours total (as in you have a time limit) and its what 3-4 discs as well? I was super interested in it then found out it was first person, which was a bit of a turn off, but after looking for it on eBay I was laughing a lot, people wanting 20 bucks for 1 disc

[Anonymous No.1747249]

>>1747241
FMV cutscenes took up a huge amount of space.

And honestly no console game can match the king of uncompressed vidya: the PC. A game that could probably hit on 1 disc is on 5. See: Baldur's Gate, amongst others.

[Anonymous No.1747662]

>>1746879
I haven't played D2, but I find it hard to recommend Enemy Zero. It's extremely slow, obtuse in its progression (it's not clear how to trigger necessary cutscenes, so you'll be relying on a FAQ alot), and the tense combat is undercut by long tedious treks through empty hallways to watch a one-minute cutscene of your gun reloading. It has an ok story and an overhyped soundtrack (that you'll never hear in-game)... I really wanted to like it better, especially after that glowing video-review the HVGN gave it. Better off emulating the PC version so you don't feel like you wasted $50, like I did.

[Anonymous No.1747798]

>>1747662
I haven't seen the HVGN video, but honestly I thought the chaotic nature of the game progression added to the atmosphere of the game. It's disorienting yes, but that's the point. It's supposed to take you out of your comfort zone and proceed to kick your ass mercilessly. I agree that the game is slow, but to be honest both D and D2 aren't much faster, it's kind of a staple for this series.

I guess nowadays, it's probably a better option to emulate the PC version, unless you're like me and already had the Saturn version on hand and enjoy playing thru it with the Saturn's 3D pad.

[Anonymous No.1747926]

>>1747241
D is two discs. It is very short and simple. Movement is a bit like Myst. I guess it's an experience but there's no real replayability. There are two endings but it all boils down one choice at the end.

[Anonymous No.1747930]

>>1747241
>Parasite Eve 2 has a transition after the tutorial and first "level" if I recall, then everything else is played on disc 2, which is funny, because you can go back to the disc 1 area without an issue.

You recall very very wrongly. You don't swap discs for a few hours, In fact there's a huge boss fight before the swap. It's an almost perfect place to switch

[Anonymous No.1747971]

make sure to read about the beta canceled D2's story, then play D2 on dreamcast, then play enemy zero

they are all connected story-wise and that's the canonical order of events

[Anonymous No.1748075]

>>1747930
>Hours
Uh.. maybe like 3 hours casually. You do the little tutorial bit with the swat and shooting range, the motel area (which is kinda lengthy if you're getting lost) and you're off to disc 2. Then disc 2 is the mines, the facility, an optional backtrack to the motel area, the lower part (eden?) and then leaving the facility, then going back to the facility. It just seems fairly odd, but I guess Parasite Eve also had a disc change and they are about the same length. I just remember beating the boss and going "Already?"

[Anonymous No.1748165]

>>1748075
>Uh.. maybe like 3 hours casually.

the whole games barely 10

[Anonymous No.1748171]

>>1748075
You forgot the empire state building at the beginning, before the desert motel.

[Anonymous No.1750996]

>>1747662
> overhyped soundtrack (that you'll never hear in-game)
I was so pissed off when I finally played the game that it didn't have the Michael Nyman soundtrack. It turns out he recycled most of it into other scores he did for movies.

[Anonymous No.1751274]

>>1747798
If I had paid $30 for Enemy Zero, I wouldn't have been so disappointed. Eno's untimely death shot the price of the game up ~$20 almost instantaneously.

While the game has some good points, I just could not recommend it to anyone at its current asking price, for the Saturn. PC should be easy enough to pirate. Maybe people would have more fun that way. System Shock 1 being free didn't stop me from liking it.

>>1750996
It's a real bullshit advertising point, along with Luscious Jackson-whats-her-name voicing the main character. Most of the soundtrack is two notes droning over and over again, and this is really annoying during cutscenes when they are still droning during the rare parts of the game where the nyman score IS playing.

[Anonymous No.1752076]

>>1751274
The price has come down a little bit now, especially if you're willing to look for a little while. The last eBay auction i saw it sold for $37 and the one before that for $35.

At this point, unless you already have the Saturn version, I would recommend people to pirate the PC version. However for those that REALLY love this game, it's still relatively cheap compared to most other Saturn games.