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/cbg/ - City Building General #81 Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 13:09:43 No.1744157 [DELETED]

/cbg/ - City Building General #81 - SimCity 2000 & moving to /vr/ edition

Previous thread:
https://archive.foolz.us/vg/thread/72678746/

--- News ---
Keep an eye out for:
http://blog.cityboundsim.com/

http://community.simtropolis.com/topic/60729-project-avalon-a-grid-based-citybuilder-now-with-a-name/

SimCity 2013 - UDoN offline mod release (one way roads):
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/29585

New oldshoes SC4 2014 modpack release

--- Useful Links ---
>Getting started with SC4
http://pastebin.com/gFM5Fbme

>oldshoes' Trufax series
http://www.oldshoes.ca/simcity-4

>Network Addon Mod (NAM)
http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/26793
http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=851

>New oldshoes 2014 modpack:
https://mega.co.nz/#!thonzabb!MrSdbmA1h3WF9ht0ENTOZ7cK7YK2Qj8KgXIbUbQShYU

>Anon #67316325's modpack (2.5GB of mods - note, has NAM v31)
https://mega.co.nz/#!yBQWhDAS!wQBZQc6IHrZk4WROBFTTEC4MqJ1kMOumW0QZLQ_fiTo
Seeds not guaranteed:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10584582/SC4ModPack.torrent

>Praetorian's modpack (fixed)
https://mega.co.nz/#!FV1SiAjb!XDodgHnIqalpVMo60keSJzbDQi8W-ecQSjOYGYBrXGo

>BATs, Maps, Mods, Tutorials, etc
http://www.simtropolis.com/
http://www.sc4devotion.com/
http://www.simpeg.com/
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/SimCity_4

>List of recommended mods
https://sites.google.com/site/sc4modds/

>How to build realistic cities
http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=12096.0

>Avoiding eternal commuters
https://imgur.com/a/8Stj6

--- Misc ---
IRC: #SimCity on irc.rizon.net

Feel free to discuss city building games from series such as SimCity, Cities XL, Anno, Tropico, Pharaoh, OpenTTD, Banished, Citybound, or any others. Limit discussions to the games themselves.

Reminder: There IS probably never going to be another separate Banished general.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 13:11:51 No.1744163 File: 128 KB, 548x412, 7aEqppG.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 14:10:30 No.1744323 >>1744157 The other one is still alive though, you should of waited until that one died completely.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 14:38:22 No.1744421 >>1744323 True, but it would be easier to keep the /vg/ thread alive to let people know we've completely moved to /vr/

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:09:50 No.1744527 >>1744157 >>1744163 I never played much of SC2K because it's hard to go back to it after 3000 and 4 but wow, I never noticed how pretty it was till these gifs.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:23:09 No.1744559 >>1744157 Why exactly did we move to /vr/? Simcity 4, the game we discuss the most here, is hardly retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:28:21 No.1744573 >>1744559 There aren't many good modern city-building games, SC4 is more of a diamond in the rough.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:34:23 No.1744583

Unfortunately SC2k is a game that hasn't aged well.
It certainly has the nostalgia, but I won't play it again. It's best to leave the memories alone.

I'm currently playing SC2013 and I'm pretty impressed about it, even though SC4 had more options.

>IMO

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:47:44 No.1744614 >>1744559 Simcity 4 came only 3 months after Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 and the genre as a whole including Simcity 3000 generally have titles that were released prior 1999.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:48:35 No.1744615 File: 536 KB, 1920x1952, 1375093708519.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744583 >>>OUT

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:49:24 No.1744616

>>1744583
My biggest gripe is the map size and the bizarre routes the Sims take. It's like they don't take into consideration existing traffic at all and only add to the congestion instead of taking a different route.

Right now I'm playing Banished. The game is pretty fun but it gets uncontrollable after you hit a certain population. I wish there were technology upgrades after a while though, it got me thinking that a city building sim where you go through different eras would be the greatest thing ever, from small in a village to skyscrapers in a metropolis.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:51:16 No.1744621 >>1744615 I know that Will Wright said that SC4 got too complicated and lost the fun aspect but I doubt that SC2013 was what he was thinking.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:53:48 No.1744628 >>1744559 /vg/ was too fast for /cbg/, leading to about 4-5 threads in a row dying with less than 100 posts. Plus, 3/4 titles in the proper SimCity series were pre-1999.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 15:56:59 No.1744636 >>1744616 Indeed, the map size it's a pain in the ass and I'm still getting used to it.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:01:09 No.1744654

>>1744621
I wouldn't say it was too complicated. The fact that you needed to build and manage multiple cities to really get the gears moving was a bit of bad design in a way, but it's forgivable since it can be called part of the learning curve.

>>1744615
Holy shit dat region. Fucking beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:05:23 No.1744670 >>1744654 Let's be realistic, SC4 was complicated. It doesn't mean it wasn't fun

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:06:56 No.1744675
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>>1744616

I'm having issues with fucking awful AI in Banished all the time which ruins the game for me. Instead of going off and doing their jobs they just stand around doing nothing complaining about how there are no resources available to make tools while I have resources available they won't use which leads to nobody getting any food and thus mass famines.

Only two people remained alive at the end of this famine, one male adult and one male child.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:23:43 No.1744723

>>1744675
That only happens to me when I tell labourers to clear land/get wood. It's fucking annoying and it takes at least a season for them to realize what they're supposed to be doing and by then winter is over and everyone needs to get back to planting crops.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:30:49 No.1744742

>>1744723

Happens to me except for things like stone and iron. Wood I have no issues with, on the other hand stone and iron they derp out completely.

Unfortunately I've never actually got to a stage where I could farm or herd. I got close with the last save (which happened at the very start of the famine) that I bought a cattle with coats but I could only afford one and the trader left while I was trying to sort out the food issue.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:33:18 No.1744749

Why did the city builder genre die out? It's hard for me to believe EA tanked the genre alone with SimCity: Societies.

None of the modern builders really do it for me. Tropico is too sloppy. The Anno series is painfully slow. I don't want to touch anything indie with a ten foot pole.

Was SC4 the complexity limit of the genre?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:35:04 No.1744754 >>1744749 They take too much effort to code and play.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:36:35 No.1744761 >>1744749 >>1744754 Also it's a very specific market niche I guess

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:38:28 No.1744764

>>1744754

Yep, even Cities XL Platinum apparently has a memory leak that existed since the original Cities XL. Shame too because XL could have been as good as SC4 had there been more polish in it. Plus some of the music is good too, I remember listening to some of it while in Vegas staring out at the nighttime city.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaQ8d-51140

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:39:48 No.1744770 >general >>>/vg/

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:42:05 No.1744780 >>1744770 >Implying all generals have to be on /vg/ >>1740872 >>1744157 >>>/o/10622465 /sp/ has some too, but I don't know the links to those.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:51:05 No.1744817

>>1744742
I always start on the setting where you get a few seeds, but no animals. I've never gotten a chance to purchase them since the traders bring just about everything but that and seeds so I have no idea what they even provide. Farming is pretty fun, you can put a ton of workers to farm and after the harvest have them work on expanding. It's definitely only to be used to supplement continuous food sources though and only in large scale. Large populations eat through everything harvested pretty quickly.

>>1744749
I think it's because they're very niche and unlikely to sell unless they're attached to a known brand like Simcity (and look at what EA has been doing with Simcity). I've never played any of the Cities XL games but from what I've seen they appear to be tarnishing their own brand, too. Any "wow feature" of the game might require difficult coding too like >>1744754 said so you're left with just mediocre city builders.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:52:49 No.1744819 I think it being niche can work for it though. Because they're so few city building games I usually buy whatever new one comes out, provided they're of good quality and not generic "gimmick simulator" quality.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:54:56 No.1744825 >>1744770 >what is the /vr/ct thread

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:57:09 No.1744831

>>1744764
>Cities XL Platinum apparently has a memory leak that existed since the original Cities XL
They never fixed that issue? Cripes, it rendered the game unplayable past 30 minutes, even on 16GBs of ram on Win 7 64bit.

What got me about Cities XL is how they gate the bigger city features on every single plot of land. SimCity never pulled this nonsense. If you wanted to build a dense city from the outset, you could. You didn't have to bulldoze half your residents to take advantage of a new zoning area.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 16:59:11 No.1744839 >>1744831 It does seem better than before on Plat, instead of occurring after 30 minutes it usually kicks in once you hit around 200k-300k population.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:07:26 No.1744873 >>1744839 That's just bad coding. In the actual /vr/ days, wasting ram was a grievous sin. Even past that, not fixing a long standing bug for over two years is either sloppy or sad.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:10:32 No.1744880

>>1744873

I know, I'm not excusing it either that they haven't fixed a glitch in the 4 years between XL and XL Plat. Shame because it could have been a contender with SC4 had they ironed it out a bit more instead of releasing the same game every year but with 30 new buildings.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:30:10 No.1744930
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Weird...I'm not sure why you guys have made exodus, but welcome to /vr/ nonetheless.

The only city builder I'd like to contribute here is Artdink's A-Train series. It's got an incredibly long and venerated lineage in Japan, but only A-Train 9's up to snuff these days *and* available on Steam, translated. A-Train III got localized by Maxis back in the day, but every chance they took marketing and publishing the games ended in failure.

Here's A-Train IV; the PlayStation port was a launch title in Japan, which is kinda cool, but not as much as Maxis localizing it for Westerners. I'll also recommend y'all look at SCROLL Magazine's Artdink issue, which goes into the games in fair detail + talks about other Artdink games (like their O'Neill Island Three space colony city builder Tokio).

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:32:34 No.1744935

>>1744749
I don't find the fun in downloading a whole bunch of mods to make SC4 playable (vanilla game is shit), finding brown boxes, hunting down 10 dependencies, having the game crash on start due to mods, then fixing the mod causing the problem. After which you spend 10 hours plopping items leading to RSI and navigating through the packed menu system and then get a crash to desktop, finding out that you last saved an hour ago.

SC4 mods are the best and worst things about the game; good as they make a 10 year old game truly amazing, bad due to the most autistic modding community I've ever seen.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:37:27 No.1744945 >>1744935 >get a crash to desktop, finding out that you last saved an hour ago That's the reasoning behind me taking long breaks between SC4. Fuck.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:44:15 No.1744957
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>>1744935

Another autistic as shit community is racing communities, especially NASCAR. Some guy on the racing general did the same thing oldshoes did where he compiled dependencies and gigs of mods just to get a passive aggressive as fuck response from everywhere outside of Leddit and 4chan and had his shit DMCA'd multiple times by autists who think they own the copyright to the NASCAR liveries because they put them in an 11 year old game.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 17:46:29 No.1744961 >>1744957 Why? It reminds me of Sims communities. Then there's the "paid" content that's not even legal according to EA's guidelines.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 18:22:50 No.1745052 >>1744957 >autistic >sim genres I think this goes without saying. I prefer to play my sims without mods though. Most of the time they muck with the game play ways I don't enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 18:42:08 No.1745124 >>1745052 Hey U-boat sims are not autistic, ok maybe, but at least not in that way.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 19:13:36 No.1745209 File: 1.57 MB, 522x413, nascar.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744957 >NASCAR

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun, Jul 6, 2014 19:41:56 No.1745298
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Some more A-Train. Here's some footage of A-Train 5, released in 1996: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTTNq_QBdP0

The game supported a shit-ton of early 3D graphics cards, and it was damn good lookin' back in its day (especially compared to other Japanese PC titles). A-Train 5 lets you use this 3D view to look at your city, but the planning stage itself is all top-down 2D stuff, made to be much less exciting but more practical to build railways with.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 21:42:31 No.1745607 >Build a freeway >Sims don't use it

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 21:44:20 No.1745614 >>1745298 The only time I ever played A-Train was a short while after trying OpenTTD and I realized how much I loved trains. I think it might have been the first one and pretty dated, though. I know it was a DOS game.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 21:46:41 No.1745627 >>1744157 Anybody play the A-Train games? I read about them and am curious as to what people here think about them.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun, Jul 6, 2014 22:14:46 No.1745709
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>>1745614
Maxis localized A-Train III for DOS, Mac and Amiga back in 1992. If it had sold better, we most assuredly would have gotten IV and V for Windows platforms or something.

A-Train didn't catch on because it was a tycoon sim and city-builder in one: your goals were profit-based, but the ultimate product would usually be large urban areas. The materials mechanic also meant resources gathered still needed to be transported around the playing field for buildings to spring up, which isn't as instantaneous as zoning in SimCity games. The concept wasn't foreign to Japanese players (who themselves loved to precisely manage train schedules as though it were programming in assembly), but it was to Western gamers.

The only games not worth playing, from what I can tell, are A-Train II (might as well play the first game, which was more of a puzzle romp), 6 (PS2-only, so less modding + not everyone wants to emulate and maybe not have mouse options), and 8/HX (the prototypes for 9, currently the best in the franchise). Also, most of the games aren't yet translated, so it's best to stick with 3/Maxis or 9. A shame, since A-Train on the PS is the best version of A-Train IV sans mouse controls!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 6, 2014 22:25:12 No.1745737 >>1745627 look at that, I should have actually looked at the thread I guess.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun, Jul 6, 2014 23:35:29 No.1745903
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>>1745737
lol

Here's some modern A-Train 9 stuff:

Couple of great train tours through rural areas and cities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IAime213eA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om-Cluqs3_U
For kicks, a bus tour at night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfZQcRg0Yuc
And yes, a train tour at night in the snow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZZIZEUwBkE
English Let's Play (sorry Germany): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bSb9_89bOw

Here's a clip from A-Train 7 (dem 2D graphics): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgyPPy3BfOY

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 03:04:25 No.1746323 >>1745607 With NAM installed?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 04:19:54 No.1746437 For anyone who want Sim City 2000 WINDOWS version: http://www.mediafire.com/download/hrx4ry42au571a3/SC2K.rar don't forget to launch the reg patch: http://www.mediafire.com/download/fzl4o6mm4m4ptjf/sc2k_w7_patch.zip

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 04:21:36 No.1746443 >>1744749 Evolved into Anno,Cities Life, and Banished. Basically, Sim City left a hole that hasn't been filled. If Blue byte do a sim city like after the new Settlers, it would be great.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 04:22:39 No.1746445 >>1744749 >Was SC4 the complexity limit of the genre? nigga, a game like Distance Universe has been released on steam a few month ago. SC4 complexity is not the issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 04:35:07 No.1746465 >>1746443 Also, Cities in Motion.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 05:03:50 No.1746506 >>1745709 Any portable version of Atrain 3 ?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 17:32:34 No.1747876 >mfw every time I build a beautiful city, I lament the fact that only I will be able to see and enjoy it Anybody else have similar feelings when playing any /cbg/ game?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 19:58:12 No.1748409 File: 247 KB, 1024x768, anno.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who Anno 1602 here? Is it still possible to play the game over multiplayer? I'd love to play the game with some other people.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 21:18:28 No.1748675 Anyone happen to have nice sc2000 tilesets lying around? I got a fairly big collection of sc2000 SCURK tilesets sitting around on my old laptop, I could put em all in a zip if there is any interest?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 21:45:27 No.1748767 >>1746437 thanks, it actually works couldnt stand using the gog DOSbox version, they said they couldnt get the WIN version to work

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 7, 2014 21:59:07 No.1748836
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>>1746506
Not any official version, no. If there are any DOS emulators available on mobile or for handhelds, use those and give the Maxis localization a shot (or SheepShaver for the Mac version, and so forth with Amiga). Otherwise, A-Train 3DS came out recently, not sure if anyone's going to translate it though...

So here's Tokio. It's much, much closer to SimCity than A-Train, but Artdink has a unique premise: you're the mayor of Tokyo's latest district, located in an O'Neill cylinder orbiting Earth. As such, you manage both this disconnected portion of Tokyo (which seems to have home rule, rather than simply being governed from mainland) and the colony backend. So it's direct city management, unlike A-Train, but there's more focus on utilities than in the original SimCity (this came out in late 1992, a year or so before SimCity 2K). Some elements from A-Train are retained, like being able to schedule transit in and out of the colony (spaceport!) and needing to manage materials for building, rather than just money. The game view's a complicated isometric perspective that lets you shift between each of the three building planes at any time.

From what little documentation's online and vaguely readable, Tokio's got some cool political dynamics, largely based around having to trade between Tokio and Tokyo for resources like food. You also have to exert a political stronghold in order to remain the elected incumbent for office...good luck with that, we're talking Japanese politics here! One feature that'll be difficult to localize for English text is being able to locate a citizen's address and phone them for a randomly-generated comment on just about anything. There's a really silly, late-'80s-bubble-economy atmosphere to the whole game that somehow channels contemporary TV, space opera anime, and previous Artdink games (worker robots are cameos from How Many Robot?) all in one go.

Dumping screens.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:01:14 No.1748845

I picked up Banished recently, is it normal that I have 90% of my citizens dedicated to getting food? I've got hunting lodges and gatherer's huts and fishing docks, but my people are still almost starving. I'm at 25/15/5 population, so did I boom my population too quickly?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:04:55 No.1748854
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Tokio came out for the PC-98 and FM Towns J-PCs back in December of 1992. It also got ported to Windows 95/98 as part of Artdink's Windows port series. I'm sure it's not too difficult to get running, just that learning to play the game would be a challenge.

Here, enjoy a spaceport. The hand-drawn pixel art in this game is some of the best Artdink ever put out during their J-PC days; sorry A-Train IV, but you ain't got as much color nor detail. Shame that it takes a bit to scroll across the map because NEC machines have shitty hardware support for that...this is why there's a handy mini-map available to speed things up.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:08:29 No.1748863 >>1748854 Old PC-98 games look amazing, can't believe japs have so much citybuilding games.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:20:21 No.1748898
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It's your job as the mayor to regulate internal weather conditions and what time of day you wish to simulate for the residents (I'm presuming the large, translucent colony panes have tinting you can toggle). This makes sense: a Tokyo without any chance to glow all nostalgic and colorful is no Tokyo at all!

There is, in fact, a sequel to the original Tokio. Tokio 2 was Artdink's final game for any Japanese PC, released for PC-98 in late 1995 (they were already releasing games on Windows the same year!). It's apparently based around Tokio gaining full independence from Tokyo, becoming an orbital nation-state and striving for global recognition. So I'd imagine some of the systems are different, though the pixel art (what's available to be seen on Google, at least) isn't as cool-looking. That game, thankfully, made its way to Windows as well, which bodes well if someone does for Artdink what XSEED's done for Falcom (A-Train 9 recently appearing on Steam doesn't count, such is how half-assed the localization has been).

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:23:28 No.1748906

>>1748863
It's almost all Artdink, lol. The Japanese were more into wargaming than city-building sims, /me points to Koei strategy titles and System Soft daisenryaku stuff. And Tatsuo Nagahama, the company president, might well be the Will Wright equivalent, since he's the creator of A-Train. Masaaki Iizuka, the designer responsible for Carnage Heart (not city-building, but a really good robot-combat franchise), recently lead the team for A-Train 3DS, so who knows who's in charge of the franchise today.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:24:14 No.1748907 >>1747876 Take screenshots. Post them here nigga.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 7, 2014 22:38:33 No.1748954
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A VHS demo of the original Tokio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dEVar8E3Ro&t=94

Here's a screenie of Tokio 2. Artdink's three most overlooked titles from their transition period on PC would be this, HR2 (construction simulator based around programming worker bots), and Blitz Strasse (proto-Stronghold defense game).

Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 02:45:39 No.1749813
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Man, I like it here. I don't have to bump the threads with reused content every couple hours and still have it die when I go to sleep. And we're seeing more variety in CBG's too.
That being said, have some reused content for a bump.

@ND, if you're still here, you're site is broken again.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 02:46:04 No.1749815 Does SimCity 4 require Origin or any other online bullshit? I bought it through Steam, if that makes any difference.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 02:51:18 No.1749824 >>1749815 No

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 02:54:52 No.1749827 >>1749813 Where is that screenshot from? Simcity4? A mod?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 02:57:23 No.1749830 >>1749827 Simcity 4 with a couple of retextures, a canal mod, and possibly some added buildings

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 07:45:50 No.1750246 Any downlaod link for atrain 3 ? I can only find the first one.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 07:52:08 No.1750253 >>1744670 The interface was complicated, but the mechanics were pretty simple. They probably could have streamlined the game a bit a la civ 4 > civ 5 and had something that was more accessible and also didn't totally suck

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 08:00:58 No.1750265 >>1748836 >>1745709 >>1744930 Damn these games are gorgeous I'm probably never going to play them because I don't speak Japanese, but the isometric 2d city aesthetic is so wonderful

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 08:33:43 No.1750307 >>1750253 Civ 5 wasn't worth playing over 4, though, until the Brave New World expansion, in part due to the new "accessibility".

Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 09:10:18 No.1750357

>>1744930
>>1750265
I had the localized A-Train when I was young. It came with an awesome manual filled with information on all the different locomotives you could buy in the game as well as a ton of interesting facts and stories about trains (and poems and stories).
It was thoroughly incomprehensible to me at the time--but I just enjoyed moving cargo from one small town to another. I only made pitiable amounts of money per month and never did get to play the stock market....is the latest one any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 09:16:21 No.1750362 File: 1.17 MB, 230x204, beilorgasm.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1745903 >(dem 2D graphics) Ooooyeahdatswhatdaddylikes..

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 10:52:01 No.1750495 File: 52 KB, 651x433, 1404814210694.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What about this ?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue, Jul 8, 2014 10:53:39 No.1750497
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>>1750246
Abandonia has the DOS files: http://www.abandonia.com/games/855/ATrain.htm

>>1750265
Don't give up hope! At least both Tokio games made it to Windows. ROM hacking Japanese Windows games is much easier than doing the same for NEC-platform titles. Judging from Artdink's origins in assembly programming, going in to fix the original versions up would be mad frustrating for most hackers just wanting to get English text working.

>>1750357
Natsume's bringing A-Train 3DS over here, another small tem just put A-Train 9 on Steam. If you've been playing recent city-builders like SimCity 4/Anno/Tropico, then A9 will be in that ballpark as far as sandbox potential and complexity goes. The 3DS game is made for franchise neophytes, though that doesn't mean the game systems are compromised (moreover, the game's mostly a colorful re-skin...dat secretary). Keep in mind that the A9 version we have on Steam is 1.0, not 2.0 or 3.0, which really sucks and, yet again, shows how localizers continue to botch the job after A-Train HX on the X360 bombed. Good thing A-Train games are getting localized more than ever before, as it must mean sales potential is there.

>>1750362
A-Train 7, though buggy at launch and more of a side-step for the franchise (taking the old isometric perspective to its limits), actually introduces some neat features, like pedestrian cars on the road, that were voted out of games as recent as A9. It sure is gorgeous and has great music, but there's other good reasons it should get localized.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue, Jul 8, 2014 10:55:37 No.1750498

>>1750495
What you talkin' about, that's a puzzle game. That's like bringing up Densha de Go in a Wargame general, you keep it to yourself!

Glad more people want to play Chitty Chitty Train, as it looks great and (according to one anon) plays well.

>>	Rvnx !neQZdLHW2A Tue, Jul 8, 2014 11:18:33 No.1750525 >>1745903 Aw shiet, I have ATrain 9 laying around somewhere.. maybe I should install it again Also dat AT7

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 11:42:46 No.1750563 >>1748845 Welcome to pre-industrial civilization

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 11:55:32 No.1750596 >>1748907 But I never feel like my city is finished enough to make screenies of

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 12:07:56 No.1750609 >>1750497 but that's the first one.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue, Jul 8, 2014 12:15:18 No.1750620 File: 123 KB, 640x400, EART0018_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1750609 The first one was released in 1985 and looked like this. You're talking about the Maxis localization of A-Train III.

Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 14:08:01 No.1750793

>>1748409
oh man, this was one of my favorite games as a kid. playing it now, i cant believe i had as much fun as i did. not because it was a poor game, but because i didnt take the time to understand at least half of the game mechanics. trade routes, tool making, merchant wagon dudes... i must have cheated a lot as a kid. i just wanted to make huge armies and fight pirates.

also, welcome to /vr/. i had no idea city building threads were a thing, and im glad to see it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 14:31:04 No.1750845 File: 1.22 MB, 4724x2509, 1307252746436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744654

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 14:47:45 No.1750872 >/cbg/ - City Building General FUCK YEAH I FUCKING LOVE SIMCITY

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 15:00:08 No.1750892 >>1750845 Dude, stop, I'll cum in my pants. why do my cities never wind up that good?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue, Jul 8, 2014 15:28:02 No.1750936 >>1750892 Seems like there's a tested method behind getting this result. Whatever the case, wow, that's impressive.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 15:33:03 No.1750946 >>1744770 >general >>>/jp/

Swampfox Tue, Jul 8, 2014 20:24:34 No.1751704
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Just got back from a thrift store run and look what I got for $2.00USD.

A boxed copy of SimCity 2000 for DOS, with the manual, Maxis leaflet, and the original mail-order invoice all still inside! (guy bought the SimCity T-shirt, large, with it)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 20:57:53 No.1751793 Would anyone like to trade SimCity 4 for RollerCoaster Tycoon: Deluxe on Steam? I don't like SimCity as much as RollerCoaster Tycoon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 8, 2014 22:08:31 No.1752003 >>1751704 I love SimCity 2000, they have river and sea separated. Especially waterfall. Does SM4 has waterfall mod that actually looks great?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 04:25:51 No.1752701 File: 103 KB, 661x833, 1404029983876.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1750620 damn, those crazy yellow cracka fuck my mind again.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 05:51:42 No.1752765 WHY NOBODY TOLD ME A TRAIN 9 WAS JUST ON STEAM ? http://store.steampowered.com/app/285400/ TU9AEOGAHIGAEOGHAEGHUIOPGHUP

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 06:32:37 No.1752802 >>1748409 great game, but pretty damn easy against bots. when i was younger it took me hours to get to 400 people, now i do that in 15 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 08:59:49 No.1752934 File: 26 KB, 500x379, cellophane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1750497 I--I just wanna try my hand at finance again. I want to rule the rail market with an iron fist! ...And lose it all on the stock market.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 09:48:26 No.1752986 >>1752934 Try Capitali$m 2.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 9, 2014 11:53:02 No.1753182
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>>1752765
Keep in mind: Degica's only released 1.0 Edition, not 2.0 or 3.0, which recently released over in Japan. Definitely get it, though, if you ain't got 1.0, because it'll be a bargain at the Summer Sale price-point or lower. There might be an English text patch for 3.0 any day now...who knows, the A-Train community's very spread out, news travels slow.

>>1752934
Railroad Tycoon for you, then. A-Train isn't about competing with other transit companies (though adding them in would be the logical evolutionary step for A10). You definitely get to abuse the stock market and compete financially, just not socio-economically for control of the local area.

Artdink should absolutely consider using multiplayer modes (play-by-email or play-by-block-of-time) to test out new concepts for transit competition and influence wars. I'd imagine it's the Japanese fanbase that would oppose this, since they prefer shiny new content and variety of ways to build their railway landscapes. A more competitive aspect wouldn't have to factor in until you've reached high-level play, anyway, or if you've filled out much of the map area and are maintaining a steady profit with upkeep and increasingly risky infrastructure.

>>1752701
I'm starting to think this too: AIV Evolution for the PS1 apparently has mouse support (Maxis' localization, by extension), meaning I can easily play the game like A-Train III if I wished to. Good thing they included an awesome early A-Train 5 engine with which to view maps in 3D. I also forgot it comes with English language support, and that the 3D view loads damn quickly. Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTBR9oo3lQ

A-Train 2001 would be fun to play, but it would perform best on PC. At least there's mouse support.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 14:52:27 No.1753516 >>1746437 Thanks a lot. I've played the original, 3K and 4 but never 2K. I'm worried I won't like it.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 16:51:25 No.1753785

>>1752986
I've wondered about those games..

>>1753182
Actually I like the focus on building a successful company (or system really) more than competing against AI companies or other players. I enjoyed A-Train as a kid even though I was never any good at it. I've played the Tycoon games before but prefer other builders.
Hmm, play-by-time would be interesting, or like how Mechwarrior Tactics is doing their turn-based system....even though their platform is horrible.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 17:10:19 No.1753830 >>1750845 which game is this one from specifically?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 9, 2014 17:33:58 No.1753868 >>1753830 SC4. Still the king after all these years.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Thu, Jul 10, 2014 00:06:41 No.1754780

>>1753785
My sense is that Artdink's going to use the handheld A-Train games to pay for their PC titles, which means anything goes for new players getting into the series on 3DS. The next game could definitely try out multiplayer, if that's something we push for (this assumes Natsume would funnel fan feedback to Artdink).

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 10, 2014 04:18:34 No.1755214 >>1754780 What others games Artdink made I should try ? (I'm getting a train 9 on Steam right now)

Anonymous Thu, Jul 10, 2014 05:03:55 No.1755269

Hmmm, A-train 9 is looking mighty fine. Problem is, while I love building things I seem to have a terrible businesss sense- I mean I can barely turn a profit in OpenTTD or Rct2 (Simcity is swimming in cash centryl for me tho). How much will that be a detriment to my fun with the game?

Secret Plot !!QIAmu6Iq0fz Thu, Jul 10, 2014 15:07:52 No.1756118
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>>1755269
Most of the basic buildings are built automatically by the game's AI, but it's your job to place specific kinds of buildings (offices, entertainment, &c.) wherever you feel there'll be the most economic benefit, either in bringing up real-estate values or simply maximizing profit from subsidies. So there's definitely an active role in building a city; just remember, the transit system you build takes priority, even though trains themselves take a long time to make a profit in any game. If money's an issue for you, try tinkering around in sandbox until you understand the interface and can get to a point where placing buildings is both practical and enjoyable alongside the rest of the game.

>>1755214
My quick and dirty suggestion is to check out Artdink's product page (https://www.artdink.co.jp/products/)) and see if there's anything you'd like to play. I'm guessing that, since this is a city-builder general we're posting in, you want more of Artdink's sim games. The Tokio series of games is much closer in concept to SimCity, albeit in a sci-fi setting that has limited geography to work with (making it more about urban planning than SimCity 4's terraforming). Of course, only A-Train's gotten English translations, so that's out of the ballpark for now.

Other Artdink stuff worth playing, in general: Lunatic Dawn series (Western-style CRPGs), How Many Robot games (AI-centric puzzle-sims), Carnage Heart/EXA (amazing series of robot-battling sims based around programming your bots), The Atlas/Neo Atlas (historical exploration sims), Far Side of the Moon (space strategy sim, wish this was translated).

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 10, 2014 15:14:21 No.1756135 >>1745298 Reminds me of the playstation version of simcity 2000 that let you drive through the city.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 10, 2014 17:18:04 No.1756497 >>1756135 Streets of Simcity? I had that game for PC, it was fun making cities and then crusing around in them.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Thu, Jul 10, 2014 17:25:33 No.1756529
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>>1756497
He's talking about a mode in SC2K on the PS that lets you view the city you've made in 3D from ground-level. There was something similar implemented for A-Train IV's PS port, except it was meant to give you a head-of-the-train view of the city.

One cool thing I've discovered about A-Train 5: you can pilot a helicopter (think SimCopter from that same year) in first-person-view around your city. With the right graphics card set-up, everything will scroll smoothly and flying around looks responsive and interesting. Footage's at the end of this 15 tutorial video set included with A5 Eternal, which also gives you an overview of the game's unique multi-window interface: http://polsy.org.uk/play/nico/?vidid=sm5676981

Anonymous Thu, Jul 10, 2014 17:26:56 No.1756536

>>1756497
Nah, Streets was PC only (and fun as hell). The Playstation port of Simcity 2000 had an option that would put you in a car and drive you around the streets randomly in a 3D-rendered version of your city. If you looked left you'd see your weird baby-arm resting on the car window.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri, Jul 11, 2014 02:11:15 No.1757849

Weird...I don't why I keep thinking SimCity 4 has a 3D engine when it's mostly 2D graphics. Good thing they stuck to 2D, since A-Train's 3D is pretty inconsistent from game to game (2001/The 21st Century looks much more colorful and clean than A-Train 8's mess of dullness).

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 11, 2014 03:59:15 No.1758035 >>1757849 Simcity 4 does have a 3D engine, though. The buildings are just prerendered for higher detail.

Rvnx !neQZdLHW2A Fri, Jul 11, 2014 04:30:06 No.1758086

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy6e0zD4PEc

>0:00-3:59
>"That's a pretty neat map
>4:00 onwards
>"Oh lawd help me, why can't I hold all these trains"

I find it hard enough to plan 10 trains simultaneously, but this guy is taking it to the max

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Fri, Jul 11, 2014 04:38:24 No.1758103 >>1758035 That makes sense too. >>1758086 Dem platforms at 3:59. I wonder what the passengers must think, stepping up to those crowded platforms waiting to board the reverse train.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 11, 2014 10:18:18 No.1758514 >>1758086 I felt a hint of the childish glee model trains used to give me when a kid while watching that

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 11, 2014 16:09:34 No.1759384 >>1748954 >>1748898 >>1748854 >>1748836 beautiful contribution to the thread. I have that scroll issue on artdink but didn't know about the space version. I got mesmerized by ARTDINK because of their boxart.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 11, 2014 19:51:12 No.1760002 >>1756118 What game is this and how do I acquire it?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat, Jul 12, 2014 00:00:18 No.1760590
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>>1760002
A-Train 7. It's not translated (patches have only been done for A8 and A9, so far as I know), but you can buy the digital download copy from Artdink's e-store w/PayPal here: http://www.artdink.co.jp/eshop/a7.html

>>1759384
Tokio gets two pages to itself in SCROLL 09, not sure how one misses it. And yes, their box-art was very distinctive in that era, still is (though using real-life photos is a lazy excuse not to have someone do a CG or scanned illustration...same thing with their tinny orchestral music).

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 00:32:16 No.1760656 >no one talks or cares about Impression Games city builders anymore Apparently there's no demand for an ancient city builder anymore, what is this world coming to

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 01:24:11 No.1760758 >>1760656 Probably because Impression Games has been dead for over a decade now There are still some ancient city builders popping up here and there

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat, Jul 12, 2014 01:34:29 No.1760783 Funnily enough, Artdink made a Roman-themed city-builder a little while after the first Caesar came out over here (not sure if it was ever ported to J-PCs, though).

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>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 05:34:16 No.1761114 >>1760927 2green & 2lowdensity for the birds nest

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 07:12:54 No.1761206 >>1760927 How to DoF in SC4?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 07:15:46 No.1761208 >>1761206 Photoshop

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 07:44:38 No.1761224 Damn, I love this thread and I love you guys. Gotta fire up Anno 1602 pronto. What do you think is the best game marrying city building and public transport management? I used to abuse OTTD as a primitive city building simulator of sorts.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 14:45:04 No.1761868 >>1760758 How is Children of Nile ?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat, Jul 12, 2014 15:38:57 No.1762072

>>1761224
You should try the A-Train games:
>>1745709
>>1745903
>>1750497
>>1753182
>>1756118

They were the first tycoon city-builder sims ever made (all the way back in 1990)! Also, A-Train 9's on Steam, though you'll need to download a release patch to make it playable past a set amount of time in-game. It's also the very first edition of A9, whereas Artdink just released 3.0 last month. Alternatively, you can wait for Natsume to release A-Train 3DS, or emulate a version of Maxis' A-Train III localization to play the classic game.

This series is all about using mass transit as an economic tool to build cities. You alternate between playing the stock market and managing train timetables to maximize profit, all the while placing/building expensive real-estate and coordinating that with bus/truck routes. It's challenging to get a great city up and running, as you'll have to directly transport building materials to areas where people will build certain things, or where you've specified something should be built. But though it takes a little longer to get into the groove of things, A-Train gives you a ridiculous amount of control over your city(ies) and the public transport system.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 15:40:19 No.1762081 >>1744157 Should not these threads like all video game generals go to >>>/vg/?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 16:55:57 No.1762251 >>1762081 This has been addressed; /vr/ has other generals, and the majority of games discussed here belong on /vr/. Also this thread would get bumped off the end of /vg/ fairly quickly by games and genres that aren't dead.

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>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 18:13:06 No.1762431 >>1762332 Wish I had the patience to grow my region to that size

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 12, 2014 23:32:58 No.1763342 File: 659 KB, 588x808, based.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744615 Any sauce on that SC4 region? That must have taken weeks to get perfect.

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sat, Jul 12, 2014 23:54:52 No.1763406 >>1763342 Google tells me CSG did it: http://sc4devotion.com/forums/index.php?topic=9440.100

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 06:42:04 No.1764306 So, I'm on A train 9. Look great so far except for the way you build road and track. Also, no pedestrians or traffic ?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 07:38:29 No.1764356 >>1764306 >Also, no pedestrians or traffic ? Oddly enough, that one tiny detail is what's holding me back from buying it this instant. I don't even know why it bothers me, it just does.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 08:47:00 No.1764420 >>1764356 It's because it's part of the visual charm. Also, it can help in the gameplay, since you can even control traffic light.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:49:09 No.1764548

>>1764356
Some versions of A-Train have them, some don't. I'd imagine it's all tied to the engine Artdink builds for a game. A9's based off of A8, which just plain looked bad (lacked draw distance and polygonal detail, among other things). A-Train 3DS has peds, if not traffic (traffic, remember, always changes the dynamic of how you operate bus and truck routes for money). I agree that citizens add charm to the world, and I'd like to see them more visibly animated in A-Train 10. I don't see any families up doing aerobics in these games...yet.

Also, I bought some Artdink games from Ray Barnholt of SCROLLS. They just arrived yesterday evening, will have pics.

>>	Rvnx !neQZdLHW2A Sun, Jul 13, 2014 12:37:43 No.1764735 File: 41 KB, 420x230, aeb70bafb864d3f5793afbc5634ae5ec.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw building a region in A-Train 9 with nothing but 2 factories and ¥200,000,000,000 to start with

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 13:26:11 No.1764854 File: 581 KB, 1920x1080, 031405272220.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >cbg moves to /vr/ without telling me Aww shite, I was sure we're dead for good.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 13:44:38 No.1764897 >>1764854 They told me

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:03:10 No.1765638 >>1764854 >mfw /cbg/ is still as slow as ever >you will never see a 500+ /cbg/ thread on /vg/ again

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:07:10 No.1765648 Caesar 3 was the most fun i've ever had in any city building games. What do you guys think about it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:08:43 No.1765653 >>1765648 I prefer Pharaoh.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:10:50 No.1765659 >>1765653 I'm going to give it a shot.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:35:06 No.1765729 File: 102 KB, 480x358, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744157 I wanted to get Sim City for the DS. But I heard it stinks. Can anyone confirm?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:40:00 No.1765742 >>1765729 Some like it, some don't. It's hit or miss really, but I'd stick with the PC versions.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:40:04 No.1765743 >>1765659 Gameplay is pretty similar, but the farming is a bit different because the nile has a flood plain, and there are monuments that are awesome. In my eyes its everything C3 was, only more so.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 19:40:32 No.1765746 >>1765729 I had it, it was boring. Simcity 3000 with less stuff and an awkward interface, and it runs slowly. No reason to play it unless you really need your city building fix in line at the grocery store.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 13, 2014 20:25:52 No.1765854 Do you guys play together often? And what games do you play the most?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 14, 2014 08:54:39 No.1767060 >>1765854 SC4 with mods

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 14, 2014 08:59:24 No.1767070 >>1765854 This makes me wonder... Maybe we should set up an SC4 collab!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 14, 2014 22:30:56 No.1768789 Since we moved I'll re-post this just in case, it's the pastebin with most of the links in it: http://pastebin.com/wC8SStCF

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 14, 2014 23:03:29 No.1768885 Degica says they hope to release A-Train 9 3.0 within the next month: http://steamcommunity.com/app/285400/discussions/0/522728268695221693/#c45350791752106329 Not counting my chickens yet, but t'would be cool.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 15, 2014 02:32:03 No.1769395 >>1764854 How did you find out? Might be more like you who haven't found our new home.

>>	Rvnx !neQZdLHW2A Tue, Jul 15, 2014 10:58:00 No.1769996 >>1768885 Elevated rails are still fucking me up, especially because of them ramps. They don't really do what I want them to do

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 15, 2014 11:53:56 No.1770101 >>1758086 Damn looking at this remind me when i played snake on my old as fuck phone.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 15, 2014 12:31:40 No.1770162 >>1768885 >tfw no torrent/dl for the 3.0

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 01:17:48 No.1772531 File: 2.57 MB, 2798x4212, Atodinku1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Front of Tokio, complete with the obi. Would have cost circa $120 in its day, I got it for a fourth of that price.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 01:20:01 No.1772538
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I'm thinking the captions for those stickers are related to copy protection. Either way, cool that they weren't wasted after 22-ish years. Brochure (daikichi) is cool as well. I can also confirm that Tokio has an in-game TV station you get to schedule...lol.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 01:21:16 No.1772541
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A-Train 5 doesn't have much in the box (Tokio's got a meaty plastic album box that could survive a natural disaster!). But it has nice Syd Mead artwork on the front.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 01:22:38 No.1772547
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I got the previous two items + DOS A-Train, AIV: Global Evolution (SLPS-0004, it's that old), and Navit for $29. Maxis' manual for A-Train III is really good so far.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 01:25:14 No.1772553

>>1769996
I hope they do something about level crossings. There seems to be confusion over whether you can have them at all, or if rails and roads cannot intersect on the same elevation.

>>1765854
I'd be happy to do A-Train stuff with /cbg/. Definitely need to try SimCity 4 some time.

>>1765729
Don't know if it's good or not, but curious that they got Japanese devs to make the portable SimCity games.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 02:59:19 No.1772776 Since Cities XL Platinum is 80% off on Steam, I decided the time now's good as any to get it and try it. What does /cbg/ think of it? Does it work as a game, or just as a pretty city building tool? Any essential mods?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 03:26:42 No.1772805 >>1745903 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IAime213eA >train turns right even though the switch is set to straight this does not satisfy my autism

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 16:03:58 No.1774080 File: 1.24 MB, 960x540, butts.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1765638 Me too

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 16:12:33 No.1774108 This isn't half-bad performance for a general moving to another, slower board. Seems like the last few thread on /vg/, according to Foolz, had low turnout. At least we've got Banished and A-Train to look forward to.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 16:24:38 No.1774141 >>1772776 Very boring, there's no real "game" to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 16:28:26 No.1774150 >>1774141 Agreed

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 16:42:53 No.1774181 File: 42 KB, 901x585, Rock_bottom_first_contact.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1774080

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 16, 2014 17:04:23 No.1774236 >>1774181 Still remember that episode, lol. I want to see a city-builder inspired by Rock Raiders, where there's also an economic/financial system to manage.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 17:54:36 No.1774351 >>1774141 >>1774150 Well then, I'll just build pretty 3D cities, cause it seems to do that kinda well.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 21:54:52 No.1775141 >>1774351 I really don't like the way zoning works. It feels so freakin' tedious unless you grid always

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 16, 2014 21:56:32 No.1775149 >>1775141 Even if you grid it's tediuous. If you want to go from low- to high-density zoning, you have to demolish the old buildings and plop new high-density zones, which are a different fixed size that doesn't fit with your low-density grid.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 17, 2014 19:27:52 No.1777731 >>1775141 Zoning is tedious, along with plopping, in SC4 as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 17, 2014 20:01:26 No.1777853 >>1777731 Only if you demand autistically rendered realistic cul-de-sacs. If you're just playing SC4 you can bound an area in roads and click-and-hold with the zoning tool.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 17, 2014 22:33:30 No.1778558 >>1744957 A lot of modding communities are like this though. People are retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 00:41:54 No.1778846 Does the oldshoes 2014 modpack and that anon modpack have any overlap? Also, I guessing that installing mods is just as simple as dropping files in the plugins section. Am I right?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 01:42:31 No.1779035 >>1778846 Other anon, oldshoes doesn't have NAM, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 01:48:50 No.1779058 >>1779035 Not sure it is not stated in the OP and I have only downloaded the anon modpack so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 02:09:25 No.1779120 >>1779035 NAM is in the oldshoes pack.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 02:21:42 No.1779164

I did everything listed in the updates part of this page
>http://community.simtropolis.com/topic/31032-boggy1s-quick-guide-to-all-things-custom-content/#entry814453

But I is it ok to run the simcity 4 application in the main folder even though it says it is a older version than 1.1.640.0 version in the app file?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 05:34:49 No.1779551 >>1779164 Give it a shot and see. Remember to save often though as SC4 can be unstable as fuck with a lot of mods.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 11:30:50 No.1780009 Any way to control what buildings are built in CIties XL-apart from manually placing them, that is.

frumpadario !YIgGw6TVdQ Fri, Jul 18, 2014 15:27:09 No.1780565

I've been thinking about playing Simcity 4 lately. I remember always having problems with really long commute times. I know there's a way to change it that mechanic somehow(i've done it before.) however is it possible to play the game without mods and not have commute time issues. i think it was always why i had abandoned areas in my cities

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 16:33:28 No.1780873 >>1780565 Just install NAM and tweak the commute model, it is practically compulsory anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 17:01:16 No.1781007 >>1779551 >>1779551 Okey dokey smokey

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 17:11:54 No.1781072 >>1779551 >>1781007 One thing that helps greatly with this is the SC4 Autosaver. Start it before you start Simcity and set it to an interval you're comfortable with. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49805/SimCity4Autosaver.exe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 17:36:44 No.1781192 >tfw no update from oldshoes in ages

Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 18:30:38 No.1781365
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I remember the first time I discovered tilesets. I had gotten the SC2K SE with SCURK Included. I remember messing around trying to draw high detail sprites, but one day in SC2k I saw the menu saying load tile sets and my world was changed forever...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 18:40:47 No.1781393 >>1781365 I kinda want to to load some titles sets for myself, SC2k's buildings are amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 21:32:46 No.1781816 why you guys aren't on vg anymore?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 21:41:52 No.1781845 >>1781816 Because the city building genre is dead and all but one of the worthwhile entries are retro.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 18, 2014 21:43:24 No.1781850 >>1781816 There are nowhere near enough pages to contain all of vg.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 02:01:12 No.1782471
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I've been a bit behind, tonight I finally downloaded NAM. I've been trying to perfect making highways and networks with the Maxis roads for a few years, and now this has just overwhelmed me. It's incredible, but I just don't know where to begin on retrofitting the old infrastructure on my latest region project. I think I'm in love. Pic related, my lovely Maxis disaster.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 02:43:15 No.1782553 File: 3.91 MB, 1920x1080, dix.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >have over 2 gigs of mods >about to install oldshoes pack inb4 game takes a dump

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 07:15:18 No.1782874 >>1781816 /cbg/ is a slow thread, and /vg/ is a fast board. All of our recent threads kept getting killed.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 12:22:17 No.1783213 File: 2.81 MB, 1920x1080, New City-Feb. 26, 001405755414.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well this is a thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 15:33:22 No.1783673 >>1782471 You shouldn't have to retrofit anything with NAM, since it improves the AI regardless of road layout. I could be wrong, though. That's a nice city, by the way. Could we get a picture of the whole region?

Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 16:05:41 No.1783782
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>>1783673
Wish I had a better picture of this thing. The inner city's districts are all going to be divided by those green belts, but I've only finished the core block and about half of the west block.
Mainly what I've been experimenting with is demolishing my older highway intersections and replacing them with the NAM ones. Also, I'm really racking my brain on how to get one of these high speed lines going throughout the main city.
But yes, the NAM fixes AI without replacing roads, I already have about 25% of my commuters as pedestrians, and about 10% on my subway lines.
But, yeah. Work in progress.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 19, 2014 23:18:59 No.1784864
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I just put all the mods from the anon's modpack and pasted them in the plugins folder and they seem to work perfectly fine surprisingly . I have two gripes though first there is sooo much stuff it is overwhelming and second all the mods seem to slow down the game a bit and it took me a minute to find the small park in the recreational option. Should I just deal with it?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 02:14:52 No.1785240

>>1784864
The menus are pretty shitty for using tons of mods, it take me almost a full minute to scroll to the bottom of my park menu in my game even using the mouse wheel. There's really nothing you can do other than deleting the stuff you don't want.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 02:32:44 No.1785281 File: 271 KB, 1024x640, simcity cock.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 02:39:26 No.1785304

>>1784864
>>1785240
The "misc transportation" and "parks" menus are worst, because most of the stuff lands there. Once you spend some time with it, you'll memorize icon positions and it won't be so bad.
Other than this, not much to do about it. I tried to keep folders named properly and organized, so as long as you do not touch the dependencies folder you can remove whatever mods you do not want/use and it shouldn't break the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 02:54:00 No.1785327 Is there a mod that adds SC2000's music?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Sun, Jul 20, 2014 03:18:15 No.1785357 Oh look, the guy who ran the old A-Train fansite's still active: http://steamcommunity.com/app/285400/discussions/0/522728268991536300/#c41973820634909030

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 03:50:23 No.1785402 Does anyone know where I can download the original simcity 2000 shortcut icon? I can not find it anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 04:37:31 No.1785465 Father of /vr/ here. I gotta say its interesting that this is happening, i.e. people are moving threads from /vg/ over to /vr/ because of dropping off. I guess it's kinda cool and flattering in a way.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 07:04:48 No.1785645 >>1785281 I miss that newspaper. But they didn't predict humanity will stop using paper in 2456.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 16:06:29 No.1786774
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>two equally-sized sectors
>same amount of water pumps for each sector, but purposely not enough to supply the whole designated sector
>connecting the two sectors makes one sector have no water even right next to the water pumps
>disconnected sectors make it easier to pinpoint where to add more pumps

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 16:12:49 No.1786791 >>1786774 That is really interesting why does it do that? Is it some sort of bug?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 16:40:32 No.1786884

>>1786791
Just an artifact of how the waternet is processed, I can't see any way it'd be contrary to expected results.

>>1786774
Would I be correct in guessing that the pumps are located at the ends of the pipe segments that border the river? That is, the ones in the south and east corners?

If so, it looks like it's a simple "follow the pipe" algorithm based off a single watersource independent of the actual number of sources.

Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 16:52:16 No.1786918
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>>1786884
>Would I be correct in guessing that the pumps are located at the ends of the pipe segments that border the river? That is, the ones in the south and east corners?
yes

also what i've noticed, is that if you give your industrial zones a separate water system from your residental/commercial zones, you should get a bit less polution in the latter

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 20, 2014 21:25:57 No.1787626 File: 30 KB, 320x200, simfarm-4.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHO SIMFARM HERE?

Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 00:55:21 No.1788238

>>1765729
I was so hype for this version when I first heard about it. Don't waste your money on it, re install SC3000 instead. I'm fairly sure it's cities might have been even smaller than even SimCity 2013, and it's clunky at best to play. I would have thought the DS would be able to handle a larger, more in depth game. If you can't tell, I'm still disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 04:27:26 No.1788674 I wish I could play A train 3, but the interface is really dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 04:28:29 No.1788678 >>1768885 finally.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 04:29:35 No.1788680 >>1772776 >or just as a pretty city building tool? It's this. Especially Cities Life 2012/13

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 04:32:19 No.1788684 How can I stop sucking at Yoot Tower ?

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 21, 2014 04:40:41 No.1788694 >>1788674 It's certainly not inviting, lol. The manual's a big help, I'd recommend finding a scan of it if you don't have it already.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 04:43:26 No.1788704 >>1788694 Yes, but the map are too small, and the way you move the camera... god.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 21, 2014 05:46:10 No.1788769 has anyone ever made an efficient rail/subway system in SC2k? i can never hit 100 passengers per station with subs/rails, is it unachievable?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 01:11:04 No.1791441 bump >tfw /cbg/ almost dying even on /vr/

Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 01:26:51 No.1791486

>>1748409
My favorite Anno game. Anyone here remember the old sunflowers forums? Then it got a pretty big graphical update, can't remember when it was shut down. After that was the Ubisoft forums, but that was closed after a while. There were a lot of regulars like Helen and the people behind the file depot. I used to be involved with the 1602 community a lot, but it's been so long now I can't remember much. It was a lot of fun, that's for sure. I wonder what those guys are up to.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 02:56:03 No.1791741 Any essential CXL mods? It truly is a barebones game in the fun department, but eh, worth the six euros.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 04:04:54 No.1791921 >See OpenTower is a thing that exist >Go see it >yfw

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 06:18:27 No.1792139 >>1791921 Well? What is your face when?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 06:35:15 No.1792168 >>1787626 idk why but it's sort of broken. dont use an emulator . .. maybe thats why

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 06:58:34 No.1792219 >>1791921 >Go look for OpenTower because of this post >Get a bunch of broken links okay

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 08:36:07 No.1792348 File: 129 KB, 1636x893, lonl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1792139 A very disappointed one.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 10:10:29 No.1792505 File: 191 KB, 524x672, Atraincover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744930 >A-Train Those graphics are so fucking cool

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 11:28:26 No.1792650 >>1744930 Which A-Train should I start with? It gives me a Transport Tycoon vibe and I still love TT.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 12:57:18 No.1792857 Heh, the amount of SC4 discussion decreased dramatically. Anyone got new screenies? Or a cool region to recommend?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue, Jul 22, 2014 13:52:38 No.1792995

>>1792650
A-Train for DOS/Amiga/Mac or A-Train 9, but be warned, these games do not play like TT. They're city-builders by way of building an transit economy, and the games are less inviting and more challenging than SimCity or OTTD. On the other hand, there's a decent amount more complexity to them that can be engaging to master. Locate the Maxis manual online, drop the game into DOSBox, and have fun!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 14:46:30 No.1793162 File: 1.05 MB, 1001x781, dood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1792857 City names are hard

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 14:55:58 No.1793190 File: 1.47 MB, 1280x1024, Derrick's Cove-Jun. 26, 1571391823399.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1793162 I know that feel anon

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 18:28:57 No.1793805 File: 121 KB, 846x960, 1395353397910.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw /cbg/ will be as dead as openttd general soon

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 18:30:44 No.1793810 File: 139 KB, 640x480, city3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1792857 >>1793805 Don't worry yall I am going out to get some screenies of my terrible city. Here is a screen of my first SC2K city.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 19:15:19 No.1793936 File: 979 KB, 800x600, Okeanos Prime-Apr. 8, 071406069395.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My wall sets stopped working for some reason

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 19:47:44 No.1794029 File: 306 KB, 1280x1024, big fucking mountain1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Prepare to cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 19:53:46 No.1794052 what's the best way to play sim city 2000 on a modern pc? Dosbox doesn't work for my copy because it's the windows 95 version, and VMware is too slow.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 19:54:36 No.1794053 >>1794052 GOG copy

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 21:00:17 No.1794302 >>1794052 I had the 95 version too; and if yours is like mine, the DOS version is still on the disc. Check the subdir and just copy the entire thing manually.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 21:20:23 No.1794371 File: 1.95 MB, 1600x900, Volcaburg-Jan. 10, 911403213135.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Little island edge town I started because I wanted to use those beaches right after I downloaded them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 21:22:01 No.1794375 >>1794371 Sexy, thought the the small trees under the mountain look kinda odd.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 21:24:08 No.1794383 >>1794375 The farm trees?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 21:31:18 No.1794405 >>1794383 Oh shit I did not notice that was a farm.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 22, 2014 21:36:43 No.1794424 >>1794405 If it looks really weird I could just demolish it and have it grow something else, or just remove it. This is the first town I actually put effort into to look nice and don't want it ruined with something that can be easily fixed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 23, 2014 01:51:53 No.1795297 >>1793162 Just grab a book with baby names, open a random page and choose one.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 23, 2014 07:28:47 No.1795776 >>1793162 name them after quake levels

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 23, 2014 08:23:38 No.1795839 >>1794052 Grab the win95 SE edition that the kind anon linked above here >>1746437 no need for dosbox and works fine on win7, not sure if it works on win8

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 23, 2014 10:11:35 No.1796004 recommend me some SC2K tileset

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Jul 23, 2014 14:27:35 No.1796612 >>1792348 Yeah, not sure why they can't use the original graphics. Still plays good, hopefully?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 00:37:22 No.1798492 >>1794371 Pretty cozy.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 11:32:43 No.1799838 File: 580 KB, 1600x900, simcity_4_wallpaper_by_veeeee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 11:47:02 No.1799878 >>1799838 That's real purdy right there

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 15:16:40 No.1800492 When should I let those rich bastards move into my city? (SC4)

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 15:47:04 No.1800580 >>1800492 When you plug in water, they'll come anyway. That should be around the time you first get education properly going

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 16:22:47 No.1800662 >>1800580 I've been with-holding water from my citizens to prevent rich sims from coming in. I want to know when I should supply them with water and let them in, like at a certain population or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 16:26:09 No.1800670 >>1800662 Now that I think of it, the ideal moment may be when the demand for R$$$ business and hi-tech industry appears

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 18:04:16 No.1800916 File: 1.02 MB, 1920x1080, optometrist.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1760927 >>1799838 am i doing it right

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 24, 2014 22:42:30 No.1801797 Banished mods when?

>>	Tacklebox Thu, Jul 24, 2014 23:13:08 No.1801892 File: 1.42 MB, 1024x768, London-Jan. 19, 1461406257875.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A yacht for a small pond

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Thu, Jul 24, 2014 23:50:23 No.1802056 >>1801892 I wish the ponds in my area were that steep. The last big one in my part of Texas has already been remodeled into a bike park.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 00:04:08 No.1802116 File: 3 KB, 379x311, 1292136800497.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1801892 >Those rock textures

Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 01:30:29 No.1802418
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>>1787626
I loved that game, but it seems really fucked.
Its like sim ant, I think they were just badly made and were sorta counting on the fact hardware was shit.

Now I can run it 99999fps every frame on an SSD instant response machine, it has never been so laggy, and unresponsive.

Maybe its just the emulator? How is it running for you, anon?

Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 01:35:55 No.1802430
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>>1793805
OpenTTD you say?

Do you guys play OpenTTD? Do you have those helpful tutorial/infographics that got made?

Everyone online just curbstomps me.

>Oh look, just hit $1,000,000 Im doing amazing!
>One other guy online
>$999,999,999,999

Seriously, guys, seriously

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 01:41:01 No.1802443 So I've been thinking of getting into Sim City 4 again. What are some mods you guys would recommend?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 04:54:37 No.1802903 >>1802443 Maybe you should try reading the OP?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 06:03:23 No.1803007 >>1802430 it'll be nice once that mod's released

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 10:18:31 No.1803391 A-anyone know a cool city builder for android that doesn't suck nor is it pay to win?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 10:50:36 No.1803446 >>1803391 Seconding. Office hours are long and there isn't enough work to fill 'em

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 18:32:02 No.1804531 >>1802430 We used to have an active OpenTTD /v/ group. The trick is recognizing profitable lines and building them before anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 19:21:37 No.1804634 >>1804531 Also finding the two largest cities on opposite ends of the map and "claiming" them so you have an infinitely increasing source of money.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 19:41:34 No.1804665 >>1802430 >>1767510

Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 21:59:38 No.1805024
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Posted my region earlier in the thread, but oh well, I'm trying to get some ideas here.
I've been trying to put some time into my little theater district. I've had a hard time attracting customers to the area, which forces the buildings to abandon quite easily. It's probably because I wedged it into an area between the park and the hospital, but even with the connection to the main East-West road on one side, and the residential districts on two sides, still really unattractive part of town. I like how it looks right now, just seeing if anyone else had an idea on how it could be set up better.
Also, still haven't upgraded my roads to the RHW ones just yet, but I've been planning to do that just one area of town at a time so I'm not overwhelmed. Might be a good idea to rip up the freeway and replace it soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 22:03:58 No.1805034 >>1805024 Condos between the entertainment district and the park. Think just to the left of the softball field and left of the pagoda style building as well.

Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 22:36:48 No.1805151
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>>1805034
I'm going to try and force it to be a bit more R$$$ in this neighborhood and get more of that condo feel, but it already seems like it's helping a lot. Haven't seen any vacancy problems yet. Thanks!

Anonymous Fri, Jul 25, 2014 22:55:42 No.1805230

>>1805024
While I admire the idea of having a theater district I do not think it is going to work unless you move them away from those unattractive areas.. Maybe don't have the theaters too close together and the roads that lead to the Theaters might need to redone.

Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 01:45:32 No.1805615
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>>1805230
I might just keep banging my head against it until it looks better, but you are probably right that it won't work here, haha. It's kind of baffling me that this area is so Low R$ right now, since it's sandwiched between the CBD and the main hospital. I really like the location, right now. But I might have to move it entirely from this side of the city. My desirability rating for high wealth residential and commerce is solid in the area too. But i'll certainly take your advice on the road network. I was thinking about making the avenue on the right redirect into the district, kind of force the traffic pattern to enter the area. This is kind of what I'm thinking right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 08:24:59 No.1806309 The canal kit in Oldshoes' pack seems to lack any sort of piece to transition to regular-ass water. Anyone knows if any exist?

Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 22:26:53 No.1808359
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This is my forth city I have worked on and I have finally avoided the urge to plop zones randomly. I am sure there is many ways to make this city more efficient but I am still working on it.

I think the roads between the Industrial districts and the residential districts is too long. Since these roads are too long they are a waste of space where I could of put resident zones down instead. It doesn't help that about 1/3 of the map is water though, thus making it harder to plan out my city.

I am going to take a few more photos and post em here for feed back.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 22:47:58 No.1808421 File: 2.55 MB, 1280x1024, quakeline-Mar. 30, 051406432664.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1808359

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 22:49:57 No.1808431 File: 2.28 MB, 1280x1024, quakeline-Mar. 22, 051406432635.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1808421

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 22:52:15 No.1808443 File: 2.62 MB, 1280x1024, quakeline-Apr. 10, 051406432706.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1808431 Please excuse the bad screenshots.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 23:25:23 No.1808561 >>1808421 >>1808431 >>1808443 looks cozy. The transmission lines look a bit out of place in the subdivisions though.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jul 26, 2014 23:27:54 No.1808564 >>1808561 Thanks for reminding me, those were suppose to be temporary.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 13:18:54 No.1810065 >>1805151 That castle is amazing. Where you get it?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 13:34:42 No.1810096 Umm guys, SimCity 4 is not retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 13:36:19 No.1810102 >>1810065 It was off of STEX http://community.simtropolis.com/files/file/3483-matsumoto-castle/ I really love all of the color in this lot, makes it pop out.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:03:37 No.1810161 >>1810096 > released 11½ years ago How old is retro?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:14:37 No.1810193 File: 655 KB, 1024x768, City 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] r8 my city m8s

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:41:05 No.1810249 >>1810161 Read the sticky.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:47:33 No.1810261 >>1810096 Get over it, we are secretly talking about SC2000K with SC4 titlesets. >>1810193 Looks nice I like the seawall.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:51:55 No.1810265 File: 537 KB, 1024x768, City 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1810261 Thanks, have a full shot of the island.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:54:15 No.1810273 >>1810265 Is this Anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:55:14 No.1810274 >>1810273 Yes, it's Anno 1602, also known as 1602 A.D. First game in the series.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:57:51 No.1810278 >>1810274 Also the best game in the series.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 14:59:40 No.1810283 >>1810278 Eh, 1404 with the I.A.A.M mod is probably the best in the series. 1602 has the best aesthetics in my opinion. 1503 is also pretty great.

>>	Tacklebox Sun, Jul 27, 2014 15:03:48 No.1810291 >>1806309 The only canal to water piece I know of is the simgoober spillway, but that really doesn't always look to good and It isn't even retextured with the darker water rerelease.

>>	E-Tan !OD.c6PSqx6 Sun, Jul 27, 2014 15:08:00 No.1810294 >>1744675 enable the beta options. one of the beta updates made it a -lot- better.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 15:43:00 No.1810407 And how the hell is Banished retro? Why don't you autists go back to /vg/?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 16:20:58 No.1810569

>>1810407
Sure we do that and the thread will bumped off of the board within a hour. Us citybuilders have no other home.

Also, why isn't a 2000K mod suggestions in the OP? Sure I know SC4 is superior in every way except not having a newspaper but 2000K has some nice title sets.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 16:35:44 No.1810628 >>1810407 Oh piss off, our threads immediately drop off /vg/, and this is the second bwst suited board to our ded genre and ded general.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 16:42:36 No.1810653 >>1810569 Suggest some and I'll put it in the next OP. By the way, what's the bump limit on /vr/?

Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 18:40:45 No.1811120

>>1810653
I am not familiar with 2000k title sets, there doesn't seem to be a single website only for 2000k sets and modding. I thought the lot of you guys have a lot of experience with 2000k.

Also, I have a question about industrial zoning in SC4. What is the most efficient way to zone industrial sectors so that you do not waste space? SC4 is not like 2000k where many industrial titles were just one block.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jul 27, 2014 23:11:21 No.1812061 >http://www.rimba.com/sim/sim2_downloadindex.html >http://www.sc3000.com/sc2000/scurk/fulltils.cfm >http://www.theshrubbery.com/simcity/2kbuildings.html >http://lorencio.hypermart.net/P0404.html Here are some simcity 2000k tilesets links.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 01:13:30 No.1812429 File: 119 KB, 1918x938, gaem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just play text-based Banished here I hate collecting wood

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Jul 28, 2014 01:20:54 No.1812445 I wonder if Hammurabi from the '60s is still worth playing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 13:58:16 No.1813680 File: 3.50 MB, 1920x1080, dix-Mar. 26, 6521406570154.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Boop

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 14:34:16 No.1813753 >>1813680 What is the brown road by the school and the futball field?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 14:37:49 No.1813761 >>1813753 Looks like a brick road.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 14:39:38 No.1813768 >>1813761 Damn I really like it! Is it in the anon modpack? If not can you post the link to it?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 14:58:12 No.1813810 >>1813768 It's included in the NAM

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 15:28:02 No.1813916 Sierra city builders anyone?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 16:23:19 No.1814071 >>1813916 Any city builders

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 17:09:33 No.1814196 >>1744615 I love how it almost looks like a real satellite image.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 18:42:37 No.1814404

Not quite /vr/ I know but, is there any newish city building games that don't suck ass?
SimCity 4 is a no-go because despite all the command line options and running no mods besides NAM, it just crashes every 5 minutes.

It just makes me more angry at SC 2013. Why couldn't SC 2013 have been good instead of watered down barely working shit?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 18:55:44 No.1814453 >>1814404 >Why couldn't SC 2013 have been good instead of watered down barely working shit? Because at some point in the last ten years, EA forgot how to make video games.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 19:04:35 No.1814482 >>1814453 No, they just learned how to make money.

Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 19:28:12 No.1814525

>>1814404
>SimCity 4 is a no-go because despite all the command line options and running no mods besides NAM, it just crashes every 5 minutes.

Sucks for you, I can play for hours before a crash. You have it set to only one core right?

>>1814482
It means the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 20:00:20 No.1814602 >>1814404 Citybound seems promising, though it's not even in alpha yet Has anybody checked out the game Factorio? It's not a city builder per se, but it gives a similar style of enjoyment.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 20:21:18 No.1814640 Is there something in Tropico 5 that causes your citizens to stop eating? I have six ranches, multiple plantations and a grocery by every apartment cluster, but food happiness is still at zero

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 20:48:57 No.1814696 >>1814525 Yeah. Still crashes. I almost wish the new Mac OS version update that came out recently got back ported to PC since it made it run well on multiple cores and let you select higher resolutions innately.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 21:49:25 No.1814886 File: 781 KB, 808x628, Fuck you.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Open letter to EA.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jul 28, 2014 21:58:13 No.1814929 >>1814886 now build on it

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 06:30:32 No.1816054 >>1814482 Didn't Sim City 4 sold better ?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 13:27:10 No.1816732 >>1814696 >I almost wish the new Mac OS version update that came out recently got back ported to PC since it made it run well on multiple cores and let you select higher resolutions innately. Is this a official update?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 15:32:09 No.1817097 File: 112 KB, 422x650, 1405717494579.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What city builders exist there for linux?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 15:34:31 No.1817103 >Feel free to discuss city building games from series such as SimCity, Cities XL, Anno, Tropico, Pharaoh, OpenTTD, Banished, Citybound, or any others. Limit discussions to the games themselves. Almost none of these games are retro.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 16:53:40 No.1817291 >>1817103 Cities XL is so poorly coded it may as well be.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 18:02:30 No.1817436 File: 703 KB, 1920x1080, 241406481354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Post more cities.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 18:34:46 No.1817496 >>1817436 I like that elevated avenue. What lots are those under it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 18:52:49 No.1817550 >>1817496 http://sc4devotion.com/csxlex/lex_filedesc.php?lotGET=2315 Those.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 19:12:41 No.1817610 >>1817550 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 20:40:16 No.1817895 File: 19 KB, 259x194, imagesDXYWUSC3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744675 >>1744157 Has /cbg/ ever heard of the Cultures series? Its a lot like Banished, although more forgiving.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jul 29, 2014 22:11:42 No.1818125 >>1817097 pls respond

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 02:46:29 No.1818831 >>1817103 Would you guys piss off with the NOT MUH RETRO whining? /cbg/ is now on /vr/ because it's a slow general for a dead genre, deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 02:48:16 No.1818835 >>1817895 Superior to the Settlers series, IMO. I found Settlers ultimately shallow as shit in its resource management.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 03:00:09 No.1818852 >>1818831 This isn't /vr/ - slow generals for modern instances of dead genres, it's /vr/ - retro games.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 03:06:05 No.1818867 >>1818852 The treshold for 'retro' is arbitrary as shit. Simcity 4 is 11 years old. That's old enough I say.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 03:07:02 No.1818869 >>1818867 And you have a non-arbitrary threshold you'd like to propose, I assume?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 04:16:24 No.1818997 >>1818869 Not that guy, but how about >Old enough that Gamestop won't bother with it. Which puts us, what, two or three generations short of "current"?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 04:45:43 No.1819030 >>1818125 Not really cb but there is openTTD. Other than that your best shot is running any of the games in wine, dosbox or a VM.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 05:42:32 No.1819115 >>1818997 Much as I agree, that definition would include every PC game that isn't from Blizzard.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 08:34:25 No.1819356 File: 28 KB, 350x401, facepalm2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1818867 >I'm too dumb to read the mods post Read this >>1392415 and kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 08:41:42 No.1819369 >>1819356 Yes, I read it. And 1999 is an arbitrary as fuck treshold for what is retro. Now stop sperging here or go and whine to the mods to ban our evil nonretro thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 09:34:18 No.1819431 File: 270 KB, 3543x1246, autism2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We are reanimating the SC4 Multiplayer via dropbox. Drop me an email if you wanna join us. Also join the chat at http://steamcommunity.com/groups/simcitymulti

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 09:36:51 No.1819437 >>1819431 Aaaaand of course this is happening when my computer is wrecked and I'm trying to figure out which part to replace

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 10:00:56 No.1819458 >>1819369 Yeah you're right let's let everyone decide what's retro for themselves, rules are st00pid. >>/b/

maya mare Wed, Jul 30, 2014 10:06:51 No.1819462

>>1819431

We're just setting up the plugins for this right now, only 3 people in so far.

Does anybody here know if it's safe to have cities border on corners? or does there have to be 1 tile spacing all the way around? This will determine how many people we can fit in the region

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 10:16:45 No.1819470 >>1819458 As I said: stop sperging here and go and whine to the mods if this thread is such an eyesore to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 16:48:04 No.1820232 File: 1.51 MB, 1000x561, sc4 east crosby.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/cbg/ migrated to /vr/ H-hello.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 17:10:21 No.1820286 >>1820232 >gif the 'retro' part only applies to games

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 17:48:23 No.1820379 >>1820232 >something like that is happening to where I live I used to think it was nice to live 5 minutes from a hospital.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 17:52:11 No.1820392 >>1820379 My uncle lived in Singapore when it started taking levels in badass.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 18:05:32 No.1820450

>>1810096
>UMMM!!! UMMMMMMM!!! UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! UMMMM!!! UMMMMMMMM!!! UMMMMMMMMM!!!!
If you were to say that shit in real life I'd probably brick your windows in for it, or at least find a way to make you lose your job or something else equally fitting. You don't deserve a happy life until you meet certain standards, and that includes not umming on the fucking internet.

I don't know why but when I play SC4, entire districts get abandoned due to a lack of employees, and the residential demand stays too low for anything to be built, and sometimes entire residential districts just turn into detroit, should I be building more parks and such or is there another way to jack up demand?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 18:25:03 No.1820524 >>1820450 Um, dude, you might want to see a shrink about that. You, uh, seem to have a bit of an obsession.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 18:40:17 No.1820572 Oh, that's why these threads aren't on /vg/ anymore.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 18:43:40 No.1820584 >>1820450 Make sure you are developing cities in adjacent districts, and that you have RR to output manufactured shit to those suburbs. That goes a long way.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 19:59:43 No.1820863 >>1820584 >railroads Shit that explains a lot.

Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 22:33:57 No.1821349

>>1744616
>It's like they don't take into consideration existing traffic at all and only add to the congestion instead of taking a different route.
Unless it was changed (and a cursory browsing of the Simcity forums indicate it hasn't) the reason they congest so badly is because of how the job/house/store seeking works: every sim attempts to go to the nearest available location, regardless of what other sims are doing. That means you can wind up with a big ol' conga line of workers heading for a single small store and when it fills up they all redirect to the next closest one.

This is also why you can have buildings that run out of wealth even in a city with job surpluses; at the end of the day, the workers all head home to the nearest houses first. Or as some other observant anon put it, the game treats sims exactly the same way it treats sewage.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:15:11 No.1821470 >>1820572 Because they can't keep up with the activity on /vg/ any more.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:34:29 No.1821531 File: 776 KB, 1024x768, poll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah Im new to Simcity 4 r8 my Faggotopia

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:35:25 No.1821536 >>1821531 Flat/10.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:42:26 No.1821563 >>1821531 9/11

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:44:49 No.1821574 There any COOP city builder games I could play with my 9year old cousin?

Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:54:02 No.1821607

>>1748409
I played the shit out of the demo. My friend and I still quote "Your people are demanding the full version." "Your people need a school"

One time I convinced the history teacher to let me play it during computer time, because it was historical in nature.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jul 30, 2014 23:58:54 No.1821635 >>1821574 Rape Factory XL: The Rapening

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 00:28:04 No.1821709 Hey /cbg/ how do you like the newer Anno games? I'm interested in Anno 2070, since I'm super into futuristic city building. I just wanna know in plain terms, would you recommend it?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 00:47:50 No.1821773 >>1821709 Anno is fine if you're into minmaxing and super efficiency. It's a game about logistics, so if that's your thing you'll love it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 01:09:25 No.1821847 >>1821709 1602 is still the best

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 04:41:06 No.1822263 >>1821574 monopoly

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 07:56:15 No.1822559 File: 1.99 MB, 1600x900, Screenshot 2014-06-20 01.10.05.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Started a new city.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 09:47:01 No.1822736 Solar Roads? is there a mod. >Also why isn't this in /VG/

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 09:54:37 No.1822746 >>1822736 Threads kept dying due to /vg/'s batshit post speed and the majority of the genre is now old as shit. Thus, thread fled to /vr/

Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 10:21:58 No.1822785
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Where can I find an original SimCity 2000 for Windows 9x that hasn't ben modified to run on NT systems?

I put together a Pentium 3 Windows 98 box for retro gaming, but all I can find is stuff that GOG tampered with to run on XP and newer.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 10:39:10 No.1822803 >>1822785 Tried the download from myabandonware?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 10:41:57 No.1822808 >>1822559 I kept looking for a dick and couldn't find it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 10:46:36 No.1822823 >>1822803 >myabandonware Thanks, I hadn't tried that site. This is actually my first time posting on /vr/, I don't know what resources you guys use. It says it's just the demo, but at least it's something.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 11:08:46 No.1822864 We're playing Simcity4 multiplayer with /v/irgins, post your email to join in.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 13:12:21 No.1823156 File: 49 KB, 270x350, Constructor-pc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does this count as a city builder? Does anyone ever want to play it multiplayer?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 13:28:05 No.1823197 >>1821574 Lego

Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 15:08:42 No.1823439
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So first time here, and I need your help.
I've never played /cgb/ games aside from 1 hour of SC4 because I'm shit at them. I don't know what to do, maybe I'm just too dumb.
Anywho, I've wondered if you could maybe tell me some good beginners' /cbg/ games who could run on a shitty laptop. I don't mind if it's retro or visually lacking or anything, I want some games for a steady learning curve to help me tackle some games like SC4 or another more complex ones later.
Can you help me ?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 17:45:34 No.1823820 File: 12 KB, 242x198, no gf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Want to switch from Maxis Highways to RHWs >There are like a gorillion pieces for RHW

Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 18:06:20 No.1823865

>>1823439
>I don't mind if it's retro or visually lacking or anything, I want some games for a steady learning curve to help me tackle some games like SC4 or another more complex ones later.
Mobility
It's free, it's fun and can teach you how to play both SimCity and Transport Tycoon at the same time (both are top5 building games)

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 18:18:41 No.1823895 >>1814404 Settlers 6 is actually pretty decent. Also Anno 2070 is pretty good. But they're more focused on economy, still possible to make beautiful cities in them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 19:09:23 No.1824003 >>1823865 >Mobility Is that the freeware game that DaimlerChrysler made back in like 2000? That was weird. Also probably the most autistically realistic a city builder transport simulation will ever get.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 19:15:08 No.1824016 >>1824003 I don't think a game will ever touch transport as deep as they did in Mobility But the city building stuff was pretty easy and comfy.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 23:03:19 No.1824594 >>1821531 water treatment doesn't work that way

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jul 31, 2014 23:26:18 No.1824669 Do you really need to build freeways in SC4? I'm building around only 5 cities anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 09:42:48 No.1825615 Great thread! I'd like to see more your cities.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:20:41 No.1825716 File: 279 KB, 900x595, barcelona.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1825615

Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:34:24 No.1825736

I'm pretty new to this game and I'm having a problem. Smaller rural towns and a big industrial town are thriving in my region, but for some reason my starter city of 90,000 has decayed and now under 60,000 sims live there.

I can't find a way of halting this decline and my city has basically turned into Detroit with abandoned housing and industry etc.

Can I fix this? I rushed into creating the starter city and so it evolved organically rather than following any coherent plan. Should I just knock it down and rebuild?

Any help will be appreciated.

How

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:37:48 No.1825739 >>1825736 Sim City 4 by the way. I thought I wrote that in the post.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 11:58:20 No.1825790 File: 55 KB, 640x480, sc2000_004.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1825716 what a coincidence, my city also has blocks askew to the highway/main road

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 12:07:44 No.1825803 File: 163 KB, 621x1024, coouters1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1825736 What is the demand for Industry and Commercial? Remember sims will go to the closest jobs to them, even if that means going outside the city into another sector.

Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 13:22:41 No.1825952

>>1825803
There's no demand for any commercial or any industry.

I figured building a big industrial & commercial town to the south of my city would lead to population growth, but it has lead to decline.

Perhaps I overextended this starter city before I should have.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 13:38:58 No.1825986 Which Sim City game is a good one to start with? I own 2000, but it confuses me, and I also own sim city 4, but it can be a pain in the arse at times.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 17:11:06 No.1826543 >>1825790 This makes me want to play Streets of Sim City again.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 17:13:05 No.1826549 >>1825986 My first was 3000, so I'm a bit biased towards it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 18:46:53 No.1826818 >>1825986 >but it confuses me why's that

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 19:12:22 No.1826871 I've been playing Sim City on SNES lately and I really want more city building. Should I find Sim City 2000 or Sim City 3 or 4? I thought 4 was the shitty new EA one.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 22:04:45 No.1827317 >>1826871 >was the shitty new EA one. That would be Simcity 2013

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:00:05 No.1827452 >>1826871 >EA one. Hmmmm? Maxis has been with EA for a long time. Hell, even Will wright wasn't involved in Simcity which is the best game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:01:35 No.1827462 >>1827452 simcity4

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:05:09 No.1827476 Take this thread to /vg/ as it's clearly labeled a general thread and stop clogging /vr/

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:43:15 No.1827617 Is it possible to run Sim City 3000 in a windowed mode?

Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:51:20 No.1827641
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>>1827476
The generals here aren't going to gather interest in /vg/.

Take your autism pills, and just deal with it. Let the communities for older games have a thread to gather to.

You're the only one shitting the board up.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:53:25 No.1827647 File: 7 KB, 153x176, Autism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1827476 >Being this buttblasted because of one word.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 1, 2014 23:53:30 No.1827648 File: 1.74 MB, 360x359, PBU3enI.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lord have mercy. I'm going to attempt to install Streets of Sim City tonight.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 01:48:38 No.1827968 >>1827617 sc3u.exe -w

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 01:52:05 No.1827975 >>1825716 I really really respect you! I can't imagine how to make this kind of great city. I love to watch cities which is not made by me.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 02:13:49 No.1828029 What is the comfiest city builder, /cbg/ ?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 04:06:14 No.1828246 >>1826818 I'm just not sure what to do, where to begin.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 05:29:39 No.1828329 >>1823156 Anybody? I've wanted to play it multiplayer for 17 years now and it's only in the last year or so that they fixed the multiplayer for the PC version.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 06:30:20 No.1828364 >>1827975 That's a picture pf Barcelona anon

Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 07:16:00 No.1828425

At first I'd like to apologize to you for asking such a stupid question.

I bought SimCity 4 several years ago, and I tried and tried, but I've never done well because of poor money.
I wonder if I make too much areas? too much roads? too fast to make something?
There are many SC4 sites on the net, but all sites explains about high level techniques.

Please remember your first playing SC4, and I'm glad to tell me what I should do for my first smallest city.

(;_;)

Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 08:46:43 No.1828494
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Can somebody please recommend me another single player game? I was hardcore gamer for years, but I can't stand seeing my time dissappear the way it is, I hate obligations to stay online and away from my real life, wasted too much time on vidya over the years, and as I'm getting older the rapid reflexes required of FPS start to give me motion sickness now.

Can anybody recommend me one other peaceful singleplayer game? I just want to satisfy my OCD by filling in this gap here.
Please nothing that has an emphasis on combat, I am looking for something like banished or maybe another city builder.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 09:05:16 No.1828510 >>1810265 Maaan when I take a screenshot in Anno 1602 it just comes out as an all black picture. I have a nice island, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 09:40:51 No.1828537 Definitely going to give this A train series a go when I can afford it.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 10:55:49 No.1828630 >>1828425 read oldshoes trufax

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 11:01:49 No.1828641 >>1828494 Startopia. $6.99 on Steam/GOG, peaceful as hell, and almost within the board rules for game age.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 11:38:30 No.1828703 What does /cbg/ think of Pharaoh and Emperor?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 11:46:47 No.1828717 >>1828703 and caesar too.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 12:48:19 No.1828794 >>1828703 I used to spend hours on Pharaoh as a kid. I haven't played on it for, like, ten years though.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 21:14:27 No.1830005 File: 560 KB, 1991x919, sc4 scar valley region.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >own SC4 for over 10 years >only recently finish a region

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 2, 2014 21:24:06 No.1830019 File: 53 KB, 300x143, That+s+a+lot+of+nuts+_b3099eded96f9daebcbcbc1efb1e1497[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1830005 That's a lot of planes.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 05:36:31 No.1830765 >>1828494 >>1828641 It's also worth mentioning that it's from a studio created by ex-Bullfrog people.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 08:43:23 No.1831023 Can I talk about Prison Architect here? I'm really not sure where else it would fit.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 09:16:09 No.1831092 >>1831023 I'd say so, It's in a similar vein.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 09:36:39 No.1831146 >>1821531 Looks like Simcity 5

Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 09:43:22 No.1831160
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>make a small test town only to see how a staggered block pattern works
>end up being biggest city ever

>lower traffic compared to a square/rectangular grid - if there's heavier traffic, a bus stop fits perfectly in place of one building
>good land values (especially for industrial zones), more so if you put trees or small parks in the blank tiles around every two pairs of buildings
some areas were rebuilt into a non-staggered pattern just to see how neatly layouts can mix
>neat little roundabout junctions

Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 10:28:23 No.1831274

>>1795839
I tried SC2k Network Edition recently. Was a pain to work through the VM, but there's another problem: All speeds but the last one are throttled using a timer. The last one runs as fast as it can. As a result, on modern hardware you got 3 slow settings and one that instantly burns through a century. That's why I prefer the DOS version. That's also the only reason why I prefer the DOS version. I'd really like to have more screen space to build

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 13:06:28 No.1831630 >>1831160 Looks pretty nice, are you going to try to get some skyscrapers? Also, there is a few abandoned buildings down there. What are you going to do with them?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 17:15:28 No.1832283

>pirate SC5 just for the fuck of it
>start building a tiny town on a cliffside
>build a cute little neighborhood with a bunch of trailers, then plop down some oil fields
>suddenly I can build a megablock
>start building megablocks
>population over a million within a few minutes
>run out of room on the map

>get bored and delete the game

well that was a neat 20 minutes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 19:02:11 No.1832606 Does anyone know if Anno 1602 still works in multiplayer? I'd also love to play it with people if there's enough interest.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 19:27:30 No.1832642 >>1832606 I haven't played MP in years, but I'd like to try. If you have steam, add me and let's try to do this http://steamcommunity.com/id/powellthemaid/

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 19:53:26 No.1832716 >>1832642 Sent you a friend request.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 21:39:31 No.1832971 >>1832283 >Playing SC 2013 lol

Anonymous Sun, Aug 3, 2014 22:18:05 No.1833051

>>1832606
>>1832642
Mission report: Using IPXWrapper, we were able to play. There's some instability, such as crashing and the colors going wonky for me (Pause/Break button fixes it), but it's great to play again. If anyone else would like to play, add me on steam. I think we're going to try playing tomorrow or something. Maybe I'll make a steam group or send emails or some shit, I'd really like to get an active group playing this game.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Aug 4, 2014 04:43:37 No.1833703
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Another lost classic from Japan: The Mars Project, developed and released by Kogado Soft in 1998. Remember when SimMars got cancelled in favor of The Sims? Looks like the Japanese delivered instead.

The game's all about colonizing Mars, which takes the form of a large rectangular region based on map data collected by NASA. You gotta build domed settlements, manufacturing facilities, terraforming ops, &c. to win a specific scenario and avoid disasters like asteroid impacts and solar flares. Most of the city-building is more micromanagement than macro, but you get to build multiple colonies across the Martian region and connect them through trade and utilities. Its two sequels have character-based story modes, since Kogado was breaking into the VN market at that time. Mars Colony: Challenger's the most recent game with this setting, but I bet Kogado was working on this series back in their PC-98 days (pixel art's crisp as hell).

Not many shots of the original, so make do with this: http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/kaseki_gamer/39946306.html

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Aug 4, 2014 04:54:40 No.1833715
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>>1833703
Some more info on 2 and 3 here: http://www.game-general.jp/soft/200309/17/01mar_kg.php
http://www.kogado.com/html/kuma/mars2/mars2main.htm
http://www.kogado.com/html/kuma/mars3/mars3.htm

Lots of little colonies to build and stitch together...I guess it's a borderline city-builder, as I'm not yet familiar with the way it handles civilians, residences, &c.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 05:28:59 No.1833759 >>1828630 Thanks. I'll try it to be able to join and talk with you in this thread!

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 08:20:55 No.1833931 >>1810102 I know it's very late but thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 13:48:04 No.1834397 >>1833715 >>1833703 Darn it looks really nice graphically.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 13:57:25 No.1834421

I tried SC4 in the past, but my PC was too shitty and it often crashed.

Now that I have a better PC I intend to try it again, however sometimes I still see people complaining about crashes. Is it true that no matter your specs SC4 crashes sometimes and it's unavoidable?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 14:01:17 No.1834431 >>1834421 i have never had it crash, with two different PCs, so there's that for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 14:04:14 No.1834441 >>1834421 Some people have it crash a lot and some people like me a few others it doesn't crash for us. But if you are worried about losing your progress download the SC4 autosaver. Also, make sure you run SC4 with one core.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 14:57:49 No.1834554 File: 712 KB, 1920x1080, 381407178467.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1834421 Like those anons' above, mine's pretty stable as well. Rare crashes when taking screens, saving or working with puzzle pieces, but I can deal with that.

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Mon, Aug 4, 2014 17:10:50 No.1834935

Also, while I was trawling through 2ch last night, I found their super-not-secret A-Train community image depot. Go ahead, take a look...I'd rather figure out the context of these shots, though: http://www.project-arc.jp/atrain/upload/index.php?mo=0

>>1834397
The city graphics are unique, but they're using stock photos of Mars and some generic CG renders for other things. Game must have been low-budget and low-manpower when it came out, though the sequels have a lot more effort put into them.

The early Windows era was a goldmine for Japanese simulation and strategy games, and they wouldn't have to compete with VNs for a while after.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 18:12:23 No.1835089
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Would anyone be interested in playing some Anno 1602 in a bit? We found a way to play it and could use some more players. If you're interested then add me on steam at: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Videojuego/

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 4, 2014 18:31:58 No.1835137 >>1835089 I've also made a steamgroup for anyone interested: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/anno1602

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 00:28:50 No.1836094 >>1834554 Man, the planning involved to make it look like that, must be monstrous.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 01:42:27 No.1836323 >>1744157 What are some nice Graphics mods for SimCity 4?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 04:25:27 No.1836538 >>1833703 >>1833715 holy shit, any download link of the windows version ?

Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Tue, Aug 5, 2014 04:30:30 No.1836547
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>>1836538
Wish I knew. Another Anon in the J-PC thread tells me he can't find any active seeds of early Windows Kogado games. If you enlist a shipping middleman like Rinkya or Celga, you can get 2 and 3 as a DVD set from Kogado's online shop: http://omnishop.kogado.com/item.php?id=60&ct=1&kw=

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 05:16:42 No.1836570 >>1836547 someone need to get this baby Can't read jap for shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 06:54:12 No.1836660 Aww nice, I found /cbg/ Realistically, how much time does it take to make an extremely basic city-builder (2D, small area, and little content). I have to add that I don't know anything of gamedesign or programming. Any books/links I could use?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:21:13 No.1836686 File: 1.28 MB, 1023x640, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Time to re-pimp my works

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:27:50 No.1836694 File: 1.36 MB, 1024x640, 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:31:43 No.1836702 >>1836694 this SC4?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:36:51 No.1836706 File: 1.18 MB, 1023x640, Screen Shot 2014-08-05 at 4.36.04 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:37:44 No.1836707 not sure if it really belongs here, but it's a nice little game http://dinopoloclub.com/minimetro/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:41:11 No.1836709 File: 1.34 MB, 1023x642, Screen Shot 2014-08-05 at 4.32.17 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1836702 Yup

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:44:45 No.1836715 >>1836709 I can never get a city to look that good, just... what do you do? is it all planning?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:46:00 No.1836718 File: 1.27 MB, 1024x638, Screen Shot 2014-08-05 at 4.45.14 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:51:15 No.1836721
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>>1836715
Lots of planning and many regions. I've been playing sc4 for a looong time. All these cities are completely game functional without cheats too.

I like my shit to look a bit realistic but still Maxis-cartoony. I like to keep things very dense as well with lots of trees. Pegs random woods are my most used lot by far and are perfect filler.

This newest city has a traffic system that relies completely on limited access high capacity roads and rails for all connections. Never had such great traffic flows.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:51:24 No.1836723 >be an urban planner >see this thread >tear rolls down cheek

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:52:57 No.1836725 >>1836721 Any idea where to start? would you suggest finding useful mods, like additions to traffic networks and such first? I'm currently playing vanilla as we speak.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 07:57:03 No.1836730
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>>1836725
I'm running a mac port (lol) so I'm basically just using Oldshoe's mod pack and some random ones that I found without an exe.

Get the NAM and Oldshoe's mod pack and you'll have everything you really need. I actually made most of this region without even using the NAM.

My one suggestion is to try to make sure every tile in each map is filled with something. That's generally my rule of thumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 08:01:00 No.1836736 File: 92 KB, 712x951, CentralPlace5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1836723 On that, it would be cool to see someone tackle Central Place Theory in the games. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_place_theory#Predictions_of_the_theory

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 08:09:35 No.1836743

>>1836730
I find, deciding where to place zones confusing the most. i just started a new game (vanilla again, but I'll get my hands on those mods)

And I'm starting small, having on the outskirts of the city a small residential block, but I'm just wondering, where do i go from here?

Connect the residential block by road to a small commercial district? how do you decide how large or small it needs to be?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 08:16:14 No.1836754 File: 28 KB, 297x296, 1406415725500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1836730 Its beautiful

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 08:27:38 No.1836762
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>>1836743
This is my general pattern for cities. Arrange your commercial districts on aterial roads, connect residential districts only to the adjacent arterial roads, and make industrial parks well wtihin access of them

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 08:40:07 No.1836781 >>1836762 Thanks, that helps a lot! I'm assuming the thicker lines are avenues, and you would run your mass transit over or underneath the main lines?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 09:49:26 No.1836867 >playing emperor sandbox >other religion isn't unlocked do i have to play campaign or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 10:07:25 No.1836906 /cbg/ on /vg/ dead?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 10:34:30 No.1836968 >>1836906 Yep, and more or less dead on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 11:54:23 No.1837090 >>1836723 Show us how the real deal works, anon

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 12:15:27 No.1837130 >>1836723 I would also like this :>>1837090

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 12:45:30 No.1837203

>>1836660
Speaking as a computer science major:
Do NOT get into programming with the intent to make a game. You'll overreach, be disappointed, get frustrated, and give up.
If you want to program games, that's fine, but your core reason for learning programming HAS to be interest in programming in and of itself. Otherwise you'll lose interest because you're not seeing the results you want at the speed you want them.

As for how long it'd take to teach yourself and program a moderately complex game, I'd say anywhere from a the better part of a year to a few years, depending on how fast you learn and the detail you put into the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 14:28:18 No.1837389 >>1836906 Still better than two threads for the delux Ridge Racer cab...the previous /vg/ threads never even finished.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 15:33:55 No.1837570 >>1834431 >>1834554 Thank you for the replies, I will try to follow the advice of >>1834441 , use autosaver and only one core.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:03:01 No.1837676
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Will post a few pics from the earlier 1602 A.D. MP game. If you want to join us, join our group

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/anno1602

I got unlucky with the spawn, I was behind the two AI and the other player.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:04:13 No.1837683 File: 223 KB, 1024x768, 1602 2014-08-05 11-22-07-03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was left with the runt of the big islands. It was a pain at first, but eventually it worked itself out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:06:09 No.1837691 File: 145 KB, 300x293, Streets_of_SimCity_cover.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1827648 never played it, but I used to think that the box art was the most awesome thing ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:07:27 No.1837704 File: 201 KB, 1024x768, 1602 2014-08-05 11-23-09-68.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] An aerial view of his island a few minutes in

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:09:11 No.1837709 File: 224 KB, 1024x768, 1602 2014-08-05 11-24-49-78.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My island

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:11:12 No.1837718 File: 193 KB, 1024x768, 1602 2014-08-05 11-35-39-33.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I mounted food and wood production, and built a quarry. Also have a small settler population now.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:12:54 No.1837726 File: 230 KB, 1024x768, 1602 2014-08-05 12-01-11-90.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Red AI getting rekt by a volcano

Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 16:20:55 No.1837753
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His island and mine at the end of our first session. Forgot to take this in-game and had to load up in SP. I'm in the process of moving all cloth and food production off of my main island. Also, 2 of my ore mines have dried up which is pretty annoying. I'm thinking of invading some AI to expand.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 18:20:37 No.1838106 > tfw there'll never be a historical citybuilder with good terrain-editor and region-mode where you can just build comfy towns and watch your country grow. I really want a game that gives you a feeling of exploration and discovery

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 18:32:32 No.1838126 >>1837753 You happen to know if Anno 1602 can be played in a window? Alternatively, how to make the colors not go full schizo if I alt-tab out of it?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 18:45:09 No.1838143 File: 403 KB, 1125x1273, 1602.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1838126 This image is WIP, but one we made for threads. Answers those, any others you need answering?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 19:43:35 No.1838283 File: 2 KB, 281x19, prude.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 19:55:58 No.1838327 What mod adds snow to the mountains in SC4. I have NAM and Oldshoes pack if they bring up any compatibility issues.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 20:00:10 No.1838341 File: 1.26 MB, 1022x639, Screen Shot 2014-08-05 at 4.59.22 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] japs make the best stadium models

>>	Don Rumata !!VTxEkVDN8r+ Tue, Aug 5, 2014 22:23:39 No.1838715 File: 927 KB, 1000x700, file420.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Much love.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 5, 2014 23:18:55 No.1838828 File: 1.28 MB, 1022x641, Screen Shot 2014-08-05 at 8.18.12 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished my flagship university+town

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 10:48:35 No.1839757 why even move to /vr/, it just makes the thread less active

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 12:30:34 No.1839895 anyone play the Clockwork Empires early access? I'm done with early access, but the game does look neat

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 12:33:00 No.1839902 >>1839895 As silly as it is, I'm holding back because it is not on Steam yet

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 13:13:16 No.1840006 File: 418 KB, 800x882, tH9R3f1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1744583 What's wrong with SC2k? I still love the whole atmosphere of it along with the art style plus its a lot more laid back than SC4 imo

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 13:48:02 No.1840064 >>1840006 Man I wish there were some statues or lego sets of the 2000k's archaeologies

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 13:51:39 No.1840072 >>1840006 Man, I never understood the purpose of that level back when I was younger, I'd always just start one fire and watch the world burn. Turns out, the world burns like a molotov cocktail.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 13:52:48 No.1840074
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>>1840064
I've built the Forest Arco as a megabuild in Minecraft if that counts
still it sucks they removed them from latter games
building Arcos was a great goal late game

Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 13:57:00 No.1840080
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>>1840072
when you reach like 400 or something Launch Arcos they will all fly off into space to colonize new worlds

that's basically the 'win' condition for Sim City 2k
which honestly I kinda like
I remember being so sad watching my Arcos fly off one by one, waving goodby to the last one as it took off

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:02:58 No.1840090 File: 9 KB, 128x196, MTS_midnightmonkey28-1082997-plymouth_arco.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840080 Wait they fly off into space? Why didn't I know this? Also, best arco

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:08:07 No.1840098 >>1840080 Yeah I know that NOW, I'm saying that back when I was 14 or whatever I had no clue.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:08:35 No.1840101 File: 195 KB, 761x625, 2arcologycitypowerstrip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840090 yea they do also pic related, most efficient city plan possible

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:09:51 No.1840102 File: 171 KB, 905x646, 4arcologycitycenter.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840101 >this is the future you chose

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:12:39 No.1840113 >>1840101 >>1840102 This is reminding me why haven't I download a mod for SC4 that has arcos.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:15:08 No.1840119 File: 1.23 MB, 1896x1113, FelsenHiRes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sim City 2000 was my first and still my favorite

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:17:35 No.1840125 >>1840119 That is a sexy pack there, wanna post it wink wink?

Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:27:06 No.1840146
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>>1840125
http://www.rimba.com/sim/sim4_felsenschloss.html

here you go, its a sort or Euro-medevial style which is nice

the tile-sets for this game in general are really top notch, and ive only figured out how to use them recently, since as a kid I had no idea

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:27:21 No.1840147 >series such as SimCity, Cities XL, Anno, Tropico, Pharaoh, OpenTTD, Banished, Citybound, or any others Let's add A-Train to this list for the next thread, since A9 3.0's coming to Steam soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:28:17 No.1840150 >>1840119 The sheer number of tilesets for that game filled me with joy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:32:52 No.1840161 >>1840147 How soon? I tried to get some information about that, but couldn't find any.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:34:56 No.1840163 File: 2.20 MB, 4150x2370, CalebopolisX.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:35:51 No.1840165 >>1840163 how did you create this image

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:40:07 No.1840172 >>1840146 Oh shit I know this site, where is that city titleset from? It would be really helped if we had all the 2000k sets in a download or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:41:24 No.1840176 File: 1.75 MB, 2560x1440, Acropolis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:44:47 No.1840182 File: 254 KB, 800x607, Atlantis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Don Rumata !!rYqzYYFAejo Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:48:28 No.1840192 >>1840161 http://steamcommunity.com/app/285400/discussions/0/522728268695221693/#c45350791752106329 They claim some time this month.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:50:04 No.1840194 >>1840165 you could take a lot of screenshots and merge them in paint

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:57:01 No.1840212 >>1840194 With that much precision?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 14:57:15 No.1840214 >>1840192 Thanks. We'll see.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 15:09:46 No.1840231 >>1840212 use Photoshop or just export the game world to a viewer program

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 15:51:49 No.1840317 >>1840212 Pixel perfect isn't hard with sprites. It's generally very easy to tell if you're off.

>>	Rvnx !neQZdLHW2A Wed, Aug 6, 2014 15:59:21 No.1840336 File: 1.34 MB, 360x202, 1404470253945.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840192

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 16:03:52 No.1840345 >>1840194 Well, I know that. I'm trying to find a less manual method.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 16:42:52 No.1840430 >>1840165 SCURK has a print function that generates a full-city image.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 16:43:34 No.1840434 >>1840176 10/10 would move in

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 16:47:27 No.1840448 File: 65 KB, 900x483, 2013_SimCity2000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] post your perfect cities

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 16:54:56 No.1840470 File: 399 KB, 1806x941, Vista del Desierto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840448 man I love the desert settings in Sim2000 anyone know how to get stuff like snowy environments or mountains?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 16:57:17 No.1840478 File: 2.40 MB, 4140x2742, the Citadel.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840448

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 17:07:39 No.1840507 File: 157 KB, 1024x768, City Planning 101.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1840448 here are a few cool ones i've seen

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 17:09:42 No.1840513 File: 246 KB, 624x425, SCURK.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] got some more .gifs

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 17:13:16 No.1840523 File: 466 KB, 250x250, tumblr_lopg8abUp11qzhns7o1_250.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] new thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 17:18:12 No.1840535 I wish I wasn't stupid so I could use scurk.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 17:23:59 No.1840553 File: 782 KB, 548x412, naGtn1w.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >2comfy

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 18:07:21 No.1840671 >>1840553 >2malaria

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 6, 2014 19:52:07 No.1840857 New thread >>1840853 >>1840853

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 7, 2014 08:40:16 No.1842432 >>1840147 How soon ?

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