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Anonymous Tue Jul 1 11:51:30 2014 No.1731549 [Reply] [Original]

20 years ago, after years of updates to Street Fighter II, Capcom finally released a brand new fighting game.

A game that instead of presenting us with yet another cast of martial artists as was the standard at the time, gave us a cast filled entirely with inhuman monsters. Monsters who fought in all sorts of bizarre, over the top ways. A Yeti who spits snowmen. A Frankenstein monster who smacks with his giant electrified behind. A zombie who sprouts chainsaws from his legs. A succubus who performs jetpack-powered piledrivers.

All of this zany action rendered in sprite animation the likes of which had never been seen before. Not only in terms of frame count (which was double that of Street Fighter II), but in terms of effective use of traditional animation principles. Even standard punches and kicks had more life to them, let alone the crazy shapeshifting attacks.

But it wasn't just eye candy. It also took the gameplay to a new level with mechanics like chain combos, guard cancels, air blocking, ES specials, and all sorts of dashes with wildly varying properties. Mechanics that would become staples of the genre, many of them even finding their way back into Street Fighter.

Let's celebrate Darkstalkers' 20th anniversary. Although it seems as though the teases of a new game were empty, we can still play and remember the classics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:03:11 2014 No.1731571 File: 7 KB, 38x48, Rayforce UAV.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >All of this zany action rendered in sprite animation the likes of which had never been seen before. Maybe in your genre.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 12:10:20 2014 No.1731591 File: 474 KB, 394x575, darkstalkers2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Forever one of my all time favorite fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 18:49:41 2014 No.1732412 File: 240 KB, 750x750, 31882718_p2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Darkstalkers' 20th anniversay was yesterday? Man, I do feel pumped to play the games at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 06:38:27 2014 No.1733603 Not to mention kickass stages and music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvsV-Zph_m4

>>	108s9001 !hO7pJQJOPM Wed Jul 2 06:47:21 2014 No.1733606 File: 49 KB, 700x408, VS-title.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1731549 Just set this up in MAME few days ago.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:18:26 2014 No.1734861 >>1733603 The themes of the first game were my favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oh75pbuL_k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8RRoCqEssM

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:46:20 2014 No.1734928 File: 119 KB, 640x903, 926818_63459_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why didn't you bring this over here Capcom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:47:44 2014 No.1734934 >>1734928 The better question is: Why did you bring non/vr/ to /vr/?

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Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:50:46 2014 No.1734946

>>1734934
>Why did you bring non/vr/ to /vr/?

That is /vr/, you mong. It's a collection of DS games. And if you know your DS (which I know you don't, given this post), you'd know that there haven't been any new games since '98.

Now please stop being Lawful Stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:52:09 2014 No.1734950 File: 359 KB, 1200x1600, $(KGrHqR,!rgFGyORlmLJBRtOSGVv!w~~60_57.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1734928 Especially odd considering that they did bring the PSP one over. >>1734934 It's a port. Don't those fall under /vr/ rules?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:52:43 2014 No.1734952 File: 366 KB, 600x800, When do I get to fight sentinel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Huitzil/Phobos the best. Except for Savior and that faggot kid

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:53:44 2014 No.1734956 >>1734950 The PSP one was based of the Dreamcast one

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Anonymous Wed Jul 2 19:56:31 2014 No.1734962

>>1734950
>It's a port. Don't those fall under /vr/ rules?

Yes, they do. The guy you're responding to is likely a shitposter who ignores context and refreshes /vr/ just to post "NAWT RETRO" even when the game already abides by the board's rules. Like I said, it's Lawful Stupid.

>>1734952
That's not Lei Lei. Tenraiha for days, son. Days.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:03:59 2014 No.1734981

>>1734950
>>1734946
>>1734962
Find me a single anything anywhere on 4chan that supports your claim that ports fit within the rules cuz I can't find a single thing.
Likely, ports are /tolerated/ but not /necessarily/ lawful. Like smoking pot in Canada.
I've seen threads on more recent ports of /vr/ games taken down.
Also, thank you for telling me that it's a port. I honestly had no idea as I'm not terribly familiar with anything not /vr/ because I've not owned a single console newer than N64 except for a GBA and a DS.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:15:49 2014 No.1735019
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>>1734952
Agreed, love that dogu-bot. So many awesome mechanical weapon animations.

And I do sort of agree that Cecil seems unnecessary. I guess they wanted to expand on the companion character thing they had going with Anita and B.B. Hood's dog. But he ends up being more annoying than those two, and since he didn't show up until late in the series he feels sort of tacked on and goes against the image Huitzil originally had. Of course, since canon seems to flip flop on whether Huitzil is a genocide machine or a guardian, it might have been a deliberate attempt at an image change.

I do find it somewhat telling that he's absent from Vampire Hunter 2, despite everything else in that game being identical to Vampire Savior 2. I guess they might have anticipated that some fans would prefer Huitzil without little Mayan kid in tow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:21:25 2014 No.1735042 >>1734981 Please don't talk about your love for gba It's not retro

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:24:42 2014 No.1735050 >>1734928 Because they want the franchise dead. New administration is not about making companies successful, it's about making them valuable yet unsuccessful enough that a bigger company will buy them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:26:42 2014 No.1735054 >>1735042 But Anon, I only used it to play ports of /vr/ games so it like totes fits in with the rules.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:27:32 2014 No.1735060 File: 111 KB, 1280x720, KaijiDespair.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1735050 New Capcom(and by new I mean since 2007) disgusts me. I hope whoever buys them will actually save their franchises.

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Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:29:45 2014 No.1735065
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>>1734956
The Dreamcast one being an odd Hyper Street Fighter 2-esque mashup that doesn't faithfully represent the original games (especially the first two).

If I had to hazard I guess, I suppose things unfolded like this:

>Capcom decides to release some ports of old games as early filler PSP titles.
>Despite never having been a big hit, they decide to take a risk and make one of those ports Darkstalkers.
>They base it on the Dreamcast version since it was the most recent port at the time, thus probably having easier code to work with. It offers a sort of "all in one" approach that they hop will please the somewhat divided Darkstalkers fanbase (despite the Dreamcast release itself having not been particularly well-received due to its inaccuracy to the source games)
>It sells like crap in the west (big surprise, it's never had a fanbase there), but does alright in Japan. However Japanese fans continue to express their desire for an accurate recreation of the original arcade experience.
>Capcom thus decides to take the plunge and do a fully-featured, arcade-accurate Darkstalkers Collection and releases it for the PS2.
>After the PSP release they know it won't sell in the west, so they don't even bother.

Granted, that's just my guess. Also I've heard that the favorable reputation the Darkstalkers Collection received is what led to the development of the similar Street Fighter Alpha Anthology, which of course did get brought to the west.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 20:29:58 2014 No.1735067 >>1735019 shit, so sad there was no Huitzil Toy

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Wed Jul 2 22:26:01 2014 No.1735272 File: 41 KB, 240x348, the bfg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1734981 >implying ports aren't /vr/ The majority of Doom fans are playing it in a source port. Do you think stuff like Zandronum is against the rules?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 23:11:05 2014 No.1735371 >>1734981 ZDoom was invented in 1998, which most ports discussed here derive from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 07:33:47 2014 No.1736027 >>1735272 >>1735371 >i still can't find a single bit of canon evidence to support my claim, so i'll just give you circumstantial tangents instead You're not very good at this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:10:31 2014 No.1736052 File: 2.14 MB, 2231x3042, 219.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1735067 I'm personally sad there no Sasquatch plushies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:17:15 2014 No.1736057 >>1736052 I know, right? The guy's design practically begs for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 08:31:29 2014 No.1736068 >>1731549 >No New DarkStalker. >No new Rival Schools. Olld Capcom will never back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 18:45:55 2014 No.1737146 Jedah best character. It's too bad my connection is shit or I'd be playing Savior every day on GGPO. Really unique game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:02:16 2014 No.1737184 >>1731549 Lilith makes my dick ROCK HARD. Like, fucking seriously. Shit, now you gonna make me spend the rest of the day in Danbooru.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:03:24 2014 No.1737186 >>1733606 /vr/ rumble in makai fucking when?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:38:40 2014 No.1737273 File: 162 KB, 625x522, 1365194933253.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1736068 why'd you have to remind me? >all the potential gone to waste by letting rival schools rot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:18:58 2014 No.1738012 anyone want to play on GGPO?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 01:35:11 2014 No.1738051 My first PS1 game and the first game where I really got into the soundtrack. Recently picked it up for MAME and I've been playing the he'll out of it. Great game, but unfortunately too much like SF2 to really stand out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 13:21:19 2014 No.1739062 A shame Capcom didn't strike when the iron was hot and made a new game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 18:00:37 2014 No.1739702 >>1738051 Pretty much every fighting game was like SF2 back then. DS was one of the first ones to try and mix it up a bit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 18:09:59 2014 No.1739732 >>1736068 Blame the market, not the maker. Capcom's chasing the Western dollar bow because Japanese gamers started flocking to free-to-play mobile games.