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Shmup General Anonymous Mon Jun 30 01:07:05 2014 No.1727525 [DELETED]

STGeneral since the old thread died

tell us
>your favorite shooters
>your recent collectings
>your latest clears/scores

try to keep shmup forums shitposting to a minimum this time

also, news from Treasure Co
>After the summer sale, we are going to update Steam Ikaruga with the additional gallery mode etc. Please be patient...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 01:22:10 2014 No.1727556 /vg/ is the board for "general" threads. If you don't actually mean to make a "general" thread then that's fine, but could you at least cease using that fucktarded label?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 01:23:45 2014 No.1727560 >>1727525 Do you think they could update Ikaruga to ditch the cancerous DRM?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:13:25 2014 No.1727656 >>1727560 not unless they port it to GoG in the process

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:23:13 2014 No.1727682 File: 48 KB, 1211x751, shmup pack creator sure loves his shmups.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 02:42:07 2014 No.1727713 >>1727525 >tfw I just started playing tyrian 2000 Feels great But is the imput lag the way it is?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:00:38 2014 No.1729290 If any of you actually want to talk about a SHMUP, there's a Crimzon Clover thread on /v/ >>>/v/251019175

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:33:47 2014 No.1729372 File: 58 KB, 240x320, ddonpachi1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone played this gem?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 18:37:36 2014 No.1729382 >>1729372 The first three donpachis never gained much recognition for some reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PLLypxjLA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:38:05 2014 No.1729556 >>1729372 I'm the person that's been posting about it every shmup thread. Finally got to level 6 on one credit! That 1-ALL is actually starting to look possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:43:35 2014 No.1729569 >>1729382 DDP and DDP3 get talked about a lot. Donpachi and DDP2, not so much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:48:59 2014 No.1729591 >>1729569 I was thinking of donpachi, not dodonpachi. Yeah, everyone loves daioujou.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:53:22 2014 No.1729602 >>1729556 no bad getting through stage 5 is not easy you play the arcade version or console port? do you score?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:55:41 2014 No.1729609 >>1729372 Ketsui is better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 19:57:42 2014 No.1729617 Are there any shmups similar to Raptor: Call of the Shadows or Tyrian? I kind of like the Western psuedo-RPG element to them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 20:17:59 2014 No.1729686 Anyone got a reliable shmup collection for torrents? >Don Pachi ...I can't even get past the 1st stage on 1 credit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 20:59:11 2014 No.1729823 >>1727713 pretty much, raptor does has the same feeling

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 21:04:35 2014 No.1729835 >>1727525 >your favorite shooters Deathsmiles, Giga Wing, Xevious >your recent collectings Castle Shikigami 2 & 3, but I don't own a PS2 >your latest clears/scores I haven't actually played anything in months

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Mon Jun 30 21:10:55 2014 No.1729849 I like Deathsmiles. Est amor!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 21:58:08 2014 No.1729992 >>1727560 What does the DRM on it do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 30 21:59:20 2014 No.1730000 >>1729617 UN Squadron

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 00:00:08 2014 No.1730335 >>1729992 Force you to run Steam at the same time as you play a game If Valve decides to terminate your account, say bye to your games

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 00:06:16 2014 No.1730345 >>1730335 I honestly think I would be happier if Steam just died. Just take them, I don't want the responsibility any more

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 00:09:00 2014 No.1730357 >>1730335 On the other hand without steam the game wouldn't have sold 1/10 as much as it did. Pirate a cracked release or just deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 01:01:57 2014 No.1730483 File: 185 KB, 1024x888, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw I will never own a limited edition copy of Border Down and hear this music in person http://youtu.be/9boFOGPISDg I suffer but no one comes to aid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 01:29:02 2014 No.1730536 >>1730483 >hear this music in person I hope you mean like concert or something, because otherwise you're being dangerously autistic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 01:33:56 2014 No.1730551 >>1730536 It's just another way of saying "own/experience the game", shitshake. Quit being an ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 02:14:48 2014 No.1730638 >>1730357 >On the other hand without steam the game wouldn't have sold 1/10 as much as it did. That's not a feat you need DRM to achieve.

Anonymous Tue Jul 1 13:44:26 2014 No.1731752

>>1729382
You nuts DonPachi was very common shooter even here internationally at the arcades, DoDonPachi abit less exposure internationally but pretty much the most popular shooter late 90s in nipland . DDP II is not even by the same developers it's lack of exposure makes sense they wanted the pachi label for a reason you know it was popula

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 1 14:55:59 2014 No.1731924 File: 341 KB, 1280x720, raystormhd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is RayStorm HD worth the $15 asking price on xbla?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 2 04:50:49 2014 No.1733510 Does anyone have that video of Xoxak making fun the Gamespot review for Ikaruga?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 02:04:48 2014 No.1735678 You know that when a badass theme pops up, there will be hard as shit boss fights Gradius Gaiden has the best boss rush in the series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBTMsdjwb0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 03:18:22 2014 No.1735781 >>1731924 yes

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 04:00:31 2014 No.1735841 [DELETED]

Coming back to a game after a long break is rough. I picked up Garegga again and I can't even hit stage 5 on one credit anymore. Don't really know what to do with myself.

>>1729835
>>1729849
Wow, Deathsmiles players! Almost never see people talk about that game. I loved that it back when I still had a 360.

It's too bad Casper was so shit at scoring, I got really good with her to the point where I was one of the best with the character on the leaderboards but I could never break into the same level of scoring as the good Rosa runs that were up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 06:50:07 2014 No.1736006 >>1730357 >On the other hand without steam the game wouldn't have sold 1/10 as much as it did. How do you know? Are there any sources on steam sales numbers, besides valvedrones asses?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 18:32:48 2014 No.1737119 >>1736006 Without Steam hype it wouldn't have been ported in the first place.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 18:48:26 2014 No.1737152
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>>1727525

Favorites: Raiden Fighters series, Deathsmiles, DodonPachi, Crimzon Clover World Ignition

Latest scores: This got my 27th when I first got it. I'm new at uploading replays so the quality is mediocre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCe4Wc14g6Q

Might upload some Raiden Fighters MAME replays if anyone's interested or wants to get a little competition going? I'm in the top 10 on all the boards in Raiden Fighters Aces but barely anyone plays it these days and score expire which is fucking infuriating to me.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 18:52:25 2014 No.1737162
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Favorite shmup's gotta be Space Megaforce/ Super Aleste from the highly underrated developer Compile. It's got so much going for it.

-8 Weapons all with 7 unique levels of power and different styles of shot (by hitting R)
-Awesome soundtrack.
-Infinite continue. I think this is good because it really shows that the creators wanted you to see the end. And if you think that takes from difficulty and length, it doesn't because...
-5 different difficulties! You can go right from Normal and get Hard and Hyper, or go left and it's like, a different difficulty category, which has Tricky and Wild. Those add bullets everywhere.

On top of all that, the game is just solid as hell and has lots of charm. It's too bad they took the characters and story out of the international versions.

Still, if you haven't given this one shot, do yourself a favor.

...presented by Toho

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 18:54:14 2014 No.1737167

>>1737152

Also, quick question regarding Raiden Fighters 1, I cannot get Raiden Fighters US version to work on the latest version of MAME, but I can get Raiden Fighters Japan version. The only problem is that Judge Spear is hidden so I can't figure out how to select the Judge Spear slave. Anyone know how?

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:07:59 2014 No.1737203

Well, I got halfway through Dogyuun on one credit the other day. Haven't played it or any shooters too much recently, so I actually killed myself on purpose to make sure that MAME hadn't set itself to test mode again (this has happened). Nope; getting better at the game. On the same game I also beat stage 6 without dying, so if I hadn't wasted the life and died a few times to the scorpion boss, I'd have gotten 6/10 through on 1 cc. Not bad considering how bad I am at these games. Gonna keep playing this one till I beat it. Love the weapon system, the graphics, and the music.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:10:50 2014 No.1737214

>>1729556

Nice job. I'm just starting to make it halfway through level 4 consistently. What ship do you use? I started with third 3rd for the spread but I feel like it's too weak and since you have to dodge so much shit all the time no matter what you might as well stick with ship 1.

Ship 2 is just. I don't even. Does anyone here like ship 2?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:31:21 2014 No.1737254 >>1737162 I'm sure you've heard of Gun Nac then. It's the game before Space Megaforce, plays almost identically but with less because it's an NES game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:34:18 2014 No.1737259 File: 42 KB, 488x519, 1403828827909.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the "average" high score in Mars Matrix?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:39:34 2014 No.1737275 Is this thread only for retro shmups or just all shmups? I started playing DDP resurrection which is pretty much my first shmup and was wondering if anyone had any basic tips for shmups in general and this specific game

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:43:01 2014 No.1737280 >>1737275 You do realize you're in /vr/ right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 19:44:30 2014 No.1737285 >>1737254 Yeah, Gun-Nac's rad! Part of me wishes Megaforce had a shop like Gun-Nac, but it may have been too cumbersome if it did.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 20:02:10 2014 No.1737313
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>>1737275

The people who post in shmup generals can't decide whether it should be /vr/ house rules or treated as an actual shmup thread.

Post about newer games if you want, but there will be complaints if you do.

Personally, I'm fine if the thread is "mostly retro shmups with the odd discussion of newer games".

Also, I think DDP: DOJ/Ketsui/Espgaluda and other stuff on the Poly Game Master arcade hardware should be considered /vr/ if Dreamcast is; the hardware came out in 1997, and the board has no trouble discussing Ikaruga or the Shikigami no Shiro series (which came out after the board cutoff date of 1999).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 20:04:13 2014 No.1737316 >>1737275 Does this look like /v/ idiot? It's obviously a retro shooter thread or it wouldn't be in /vr/.

Anonymous Thu Jul 3 20:44:23 2014 No.1737406 [DELETED]

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>>1737275
>>1737280
>>1737316

Unfortunately shit-posting about m-muh Rules Set In Stone is pretty common. Feel free to talk about newer shmups all you want. Mods are slow to delete posts so everyone will see them and you and I can continue to talk about them and laugh at the shit-posters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:14:54 2014 No.1737471 >>1737406 The way I see it, modern shmups are basically still retro. Retro minded people enjoy them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:17:22 2014 No.1737475 >>1737406 I don't understand why THIS blatant shitposter hasn't been banned yet. Every post I see you make seems to be a taunt to the mods and a deliberate attempt to lower the quality of /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:17:53 2014 No.1737478 >>1737259 9999,9999,9999,9999

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:18:28 2014 No.1737479 >>1737471 Too bad, they're not. Make a /v/ thread, it's not hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:30:09 2014 No.1737521 >>1737471 Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 21:31:12 2014 No.1737525 >>1737259 Go play Mars Matrix. Better than dawn-patch. Or Goowang. Giga Wang.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 3 22:51:28 2014 No.1737668 >>1737280 how does this work with arcade games, though, since the rules seem to be based on the release date of the hardware, and not the game? for example, espgaluda came out in 2003, but the pgm hardware was first released in 1997.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 00:21:54 2014 No.1737867

>>1737313
>I'm fine if the thread is "mostly retro shmups with the odd discussion of newer games".

I agree. There's a bit of overlap and a lot of "if you like this then you'll like this" that applies to newer games. As a poorfag who doesn't know much about the newer shmups, I like these posts sometimes.

>Poly Game Master arcade hardware should be considered /vr/
No doubt

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:15:10 2014 No.1738139

>>1737275
>basic tips for shmups

Learn how to keep track of where your ship is without constantly starting at it. In most situations your eyes should be primarily focused on incoming enemies and bullets.

Practice mode and save states can help you improve more quickly. So can superplay videos. Some people think that those ruin the fun, so decide for yourself if it's worth it.

Memorization is part of the genre. Don't be too proud to memorize a route through a difficult segment.

There's a real good pdf guide out there called "The Full Extent of the Jam" by a dude who goes by ProMeTheus. I recommend looking it up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 02:17:45 2014 No.1738147 >>1737668 Arcade games tend to run on customized hardware, so they go by release date.

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 03:21:46 2014 No.1738283

>>1738139
I'd like to add on a little to what this guy said by noting that an easy way to tell where your ship is without looking right at it is by paying attention to where your shots are landing. In most games you can gauge the horizontal position of your ship based on your bullet spread which should be enough to dodge most filler attacks in stages.

Also, learn to weave. Dodging in shmups is all about using your space properly; namely, your horizontal space. Constantly move left or right and aimed attacks will miss you by default, allowing you to focus on avoiding stray bullets. Also pay attention to how your movement can open up the line of enemy fire, allowing you to move through the gaps and stay mobile.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 04:19:44 2014 No.1738360 What's the best retro shmup, and why is it Gradius V?

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 06:06:11 2014 No.1738459

>>1737275
That's a pretty rough one to get started on. On the one hand, it's incredibly easy to play for a quick 1 credit clear, but playing for score is brutal. High scoring runs can take upwards of 3 hours with all the boss milking.

You might want to check out regular Dodonpachi to cut your teeth on the genre.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 09:31:04 2014 No.1738667 >>1738459 And here we see a cavefag initiating the "play doodoopoo first" ritual, his species' method of reproduction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 10:12:02 2014 No.1738703 >>1738667 well if it isn't doodoopoo-kun yo scrub get to chaining ^_^

Anonymous Fri Jul 4 10:50:22 2014 No.1738758

>>1738459
>That's a pretty rough one to get started on. On the one hand, it's incredibly easy to play for a quick 1 credit clear, but playing for score is brutal. High scoring runs can take upwards of 3 hours with all the boss milking.

It's also bad at teaching how to play other shmups. Its hyper and autobomb mechanics especially encourage bad habits.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 4 10:55:56 2014 No.1738769 >>1738667 >stop liking things i don't like why don't you give some recommendations of your own, instead of shitting on others, you shitposting cunt?

>>	leader bee Fri Jul 4 15:27:12 2014 No.1739365 File: 31 KB, 240x320, 0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the hive section in stage 6 is some bullshit mame/ddonpach default board settings no autofire best my score,it shouldn't be that difficult

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 09:45:42 2014 No.1741301 Is there any sort of essentials list or chart for these games? I want to get into them, especially bullet hell

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 10:17:07 2014 No.1741329 >>1741301 Galaga R-Type Gradius II Zanac Raiden II Darius Gaiden Cho Ren Sha 68K Battle Garegga

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 10:29:27 2014 No.1741342 I want a Shmup with RPG elements, being a level system, and upgradeable equipment. Is there anything particular that will cater to my tastes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 10:39:30 2014 No.1741349 >>1741342 There's a lot of shooters with leveling, but I don't think there's many with equipment management as well outside euroshmups. You won't find any with tight action pacing when upgradeable equipment is involved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 11:09:22 2014 No.1741379 >>1741342 i think the guardian legend is the closest thing there is to a good shmup with rpg elements

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 11:12:30 2014 No.1741383 >>1741342 Ys isn't quite a shmup in the conventional sense but it does have qualities of both while still being a good game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 11:41:37 2014 No.1741424 >>1737214 all three ships have documented scores of over 700 million points they're fairly balanced

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 13:03:37 2014 No.1741525 >>1741383 I've already played through most of the series. But thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 13:13:36 2014 No.1741534 I just bought a saturn and megadrive What are some shmups that wont cost me my savings

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 13:34:53 2014 No.1741564 touhou project Ever single one

Anonymous Sat Jul 5 15:24:26 2014 No.1741778

>your favorite shooters
Gun Nac, Blade Buster, Mushifutari, Saidaioujou
>your recent collectings
Ikaruga on GC, Castle Shikigami 2 on PS2
>your latest clears/scores
4,648,960 1cc on Gun Nac normal mode, where speed takes priority. Nothing special, I'm relatively new to the genre.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 15:33:43 2014 No.1741801 File: 951 KB, 793x793, Screenshot_2014-07-05-12-29-33~01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1741778 Using this stick BTW. I'm primarily a pad player, so I'm trying to transition to a stick. It's pretty tough so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 15:55:48 2014 No.1741840 >>1741342 Gradius

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 15:56:23 2014 No.1741842 >>1741778 lol, I 1cc'd GunNac on my first attempt. What an easy shmup.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 15:57:56 2014 No.1741846 >>1741842 Totally. You end up reaching the last stage with like 30 lives lol

Anonymous Sat Jul 5 15:59:11 2014 No.1741848

>>1741342
2 of my favorite shmups of all time have some RPG elements:

Radiant Silvergun levels up your 3 primary shots based on how well you score.

Mars Matrix levels up your ship and weapon power the more you collect gold cubes.

Try those out on Saturn and DC.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 16:05:57 2014 No.1741857 >>1741778 I LIKE GIRLS, BUT NOW... IT'S ABOUT JUSTICE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 16:15:11 2014 No.1741880 >>1741857 My fucking sides. The dub is hilariously awesome in this game

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 16:49:45 2014 No.1741938 >>1741342 Something way out there, but try Armada on the Dreamcast.

Anonymous Sat Jul 5 17:02:50 2014 No.1741967
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opinions on crisis force?

just beat it after casually playing it on and off for a few months (i'm going to try hard soon).
here's what I thought...

pros:
- unique level graphics (for the nes anyway)
- fun temporary power up ability
- good soundtrack
cons:
- short game (although one could argue it's best to keep it short and sweet)
- easy boss fights

thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 17:31:57 2014 No.1742034 >>1741342 Sigma Star Saga on GBA.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 17:48:43 2014 No.1742076 >>1742034 Yeah but SSS kinda sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 18:12:28 2014 No.1742161 >>1742076 >>1742034 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 23:49:14 2014 No.1742953 Are rail shooters shmups?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 5 23:50:26 2014 No.1742961 >>1742953 Yeah. Everything is shmups.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:03:53 2014 No.1743130 what are some good shmups that aren't danmaku and aren't memorization-heavy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:17:37 2014 No.1743154 Just now realized how many Cave games were added to MAME since I last updated. Thank you, based MAME devs. (P.S. Bring back high scores.)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:18:37 2014 No.1743158 >>1743130 Gun Nac, Space Megaforce, MUSHA, Giga Wing, Sin and Punishment... pretty much anything that is a retro console shmup. Avoid PC-98 if you don't want Danmaku, or PC in general really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:19:22 2014 No.1743160 >>1743130 TurboGrafx Star Soldier games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:26:29 2014 No.1743168 What's your favorite shmup localization?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:27:26 2014 No.1743169 >>1743168 Castle Shikigami 2

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:27:39 2014 No.1743170 File: 96 KB, 600x600, mlf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743168 Forgot my pic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:29:59 2014 No.1743173 File: 103 KB, 640x908, mlf2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743169 I'll just assume you made a typo and meant Castle Shikigami 1 (pictured).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:34:10 2014 No.1743178 >>1743173 also a classic, but Shikigami 2's translation and voice acting are an unbeatable combination

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 01:43:05 2014 No.1743187 >>1743168 >>1743173 See >>1741857

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 02:03:54 2014 No.1743223 >>1737162 Super Aleste is a relaxing game for a shoot em up, but damn it's easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 02:10:21 2014 No.1743238 >>1743158 >>1743160 Thanks dudes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 03:28:15 2014 No.1743393 >>1743223 All Compile games are easy. They became a lot better when they turned into Milestone. DAT CHAOS FIELD

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 14:00:15 2014 No.1744291 >>1743393 >They became a lot better when they turned into Milestone. You mean Raizing right? Mahou Daisakusen Shippu Mahou Daisakusen Soukyugurentai Dimahoo Brave Blade

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 20:07:57 2014 No.1745359 so are touhou games harder than CAVE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 20:08:34 2014 No.1745360 File: 9 KB, 591x365, uhoh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1745359 better watch out guys

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 21:09:40 2014 No.1745505 >>1745359 They're pretty similar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 21:40:02 2014 No.1745601 >>1745359 No. Don't let 2hu scorefags convince you otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 6 23:01:16 2014 No.1745829 >>1745359 it depends on the game and the difficulty setting

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 16:39:02 2014 No.1747668 File: 10 KB, 720x217, batwider.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My first Batrider/Raizing 1cc Fought both Bashinets and went up against Blunt as the stage 5 boss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 16:51:14 2014 No.1747707 >>1747668 >Normal course

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 17:07:14 2014 No.1747764 File: 169 KB, 659x605, cute_bat_girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1747707 I'll do Advanced course some day...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 18:44:58 2014 No.1748134 >>1747668 >not using a Garegga ship You disgust me.

Anonymous Mon Jul 7 18:57:43 2014 No.1748175

There's nothing wrong with touhou. The games are just a little bit tepid in their pacing and all feel a little underdesigned, which is fine given that they are all made by a single guy.

I feel like if ZUN ever moves away from the PC-98 and puts his games on more modern hardware, he might really go somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 21:20:06 2014 No.1748679 >>1748175 huh? is this some kind of joke like "i wish they made a sequel to the Matrix"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 21:39:26 2014 No.1748749 >>1748679 I think anon is trying to pretend it's pre-1999 and only the PC-98 Toho games exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 21:42:26 2014 No.1748754 >>1748749 No one cared about 2ho back then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 22:25:16 2014 No.1748912 Gradius Gaiden is the strongest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 7 23:46:57 2014 No.1749296 >>1748912 But Gradius V is better... ...when it stops being boring after 20 minutes into the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 00:13:25 2014 No.1749407 >>1743393 Fucking loved Chaos Field.e uNfortunately it had to go with ikaruga one year when I decided I needed to eat

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 00:14:29 2014 No.1749409 >>1748912 Gradius II was here, Gaiden is a fag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 00:15:13 2014 No.1749413 >>1743168 Deathsmiles

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 00:22:50 2014 No.1749436 >>1749409 Enjoying those terrible first two stages?

Anonymous Tue Jul 8 00:29:52 2014 No.1749457

>>1748754
Don't be stupid, of course people did. If no one bought the games, they wouldn't have kept making them.

Anyway, Imperishable Night was pretty good for introducing me to the genre, but after "graduating" to proper arcade STG's, Touhou really holds no interest for me. The characters are kind of cool, but the games are bland and the fanbase is brony-tier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 01:01:27 2014 No.1749570 >>1749457 >If no one bought the games, they wouldn't have kept making them. I don't think ZUN cares about sales. Also, the PC98 games are extremely rare. I heard they sold under 100 units combined.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 01:15:36 2014 No.1749603 >>1749457 The PC-98 games are basically "sold out of his basement" tier in terms of sales. They really sold that few copies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 03:35:00 2014 No.1749874 Are PGM games like DDP DOJ retro?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 04:14:21 2014 No.1749928 >>1749874 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:29:36 2014 No.1750302 >>1749928 >Retro gaming means...arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:45:52 2014 No.1750327 >>1750302 No.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 08:53:25 2014 No.1750332 >>1749874 Nein, ist 2002.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:23:07 2014 No.1750370 >>1749436 >implying giger stage isn't badass

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 09:41:04 2014 No.1750404 >>1749928 >>1750332 /vr/ rules go by hardware release though, and the PGM board came out in 1997.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 13:29:30 2014 No.1750740 File: 42 KB, 500x493, download.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No they go by the union of hardware and game release, otherwise homebrew NES games would be allowed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 14:21:56 2014 No.1750820 >>1750740 how new are you homebrew nes games ARE allowed pretty much the only games that don't follow the hardware rule are original PC games because those are harder to gauge what the hardware implies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:56:00 2014 No.1751442 File: 36 KB, 240x320, 0002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] well this was unexpected apparently the loop requirements for the international version are different? because I got old Longhena mad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 18:57:22 2014 No.1751448 File: 31 KB, 240x320, 0003.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1751442 here is the score if anyone is interested

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 8 19:15:35 2014 No.1751530 >>1751442 No wait I wasn't paying attention You just have to meet one of the said requirements not all of them to access the loop

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 16:35:49 2014 No.1753739 >>1749409 >Gradius II The PCE version is the best simply for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-IF9UD1y2c

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 17:41:51 2014 No.1753881 File: 148 KB, 332x450, sadbear.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >you will never 2-ALL DoDonPachi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:16:46 2014 No.1753948 File: 103 KB, 384x313, oh well.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1753881 >Dodonpachi will never be a good enough game to be worth bothering beating both loops

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:17:23 2014 No.1753950 >>1753881 Like I give a fuck. You've seen and beat all the game after the first loop.

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:21:48 2014 No.1753957

>>1753948
“One can never play too little of bad, or too much of good shmups: cave shmups are intellectual poison; they destroy the mind.

In order to play what is good one must make it a condition never to play what is bad; for life is short, and both time and strength limited.”
― Arthur Schopenhauer, Essays and Aphorisms

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:26:25 2014 No.1753961 >>1753881 This is only sad if you really like the game I mean like your favorite shmup and you gave up or something. 2-ALL DDP requires serious investment

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:31:18 2014 No.1753974 >>1753948 >>1753957 >>1753950 lmao @ these cave hating scrubs

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:40:58 2014 No.1753991

>>1753974
Dodonpachi is a gateway shmup of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and bullets that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive chaining faggotry and BEES. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cute, the scoring, the peculiar, colorful patterns, the whole SHINUGAYOI faggotry and everything about the Dodonpachi world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on time travel, and overall goofyness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Dodonpachi is basically THE series to attract the most hated shmup fanbase known to /vr/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this game and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no shmup threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 18:51:36 2014 No.1754015 >>1753991 fuck you stole my idea except i was gonna make it about touhou

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:08:45 2014 No.1754054
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Maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly is the problem with DDP that makes certain posters so ass-pained about it?

The game holds up really well. It feels very tight; the bullet patterns are a bit simple by todays standards but well thought out. The scoring is simple to understand and the games loop requirements are not insane. From playing the game, it feels like it would be quite a nice challenge to 1-all. For the 2-all, there is enough of an added challenge to really motivate skilled players.

As for the complaints about the scoring, I can only imagine that the people making the complaints have unrealistic standards; this game has been played and dissected for years by a community of high-level players. Of course they have dissected it down to pixel-perfect timing and accuracy. The game is over 17 years old. Unless you are seriously practicing for a record score, trying to do the same things as these players and getting angry when you don't is insane. Do you get mad when you do a 100m dash four seconds slower than Usain Bolt?

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:14:12 2014 No.1754067

>>1754054
It's a dull game with annoying music and a shitty scoring system and I hate games that hide shit in the 2nd loop most of all. It basically epitomizes style over substance in the shmup genre, and the worst thing about it is it's held up on some magical pedestal by idiots/weeaboos who are barely into the genre itself.

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:14:24 2014 No.1754070

>>1754054
it's an excellent game, there are just a few fags who are mad about it because it's popular

if you ask about shmups on most places on the internet you're going to hear about garbage like ikaruga and jamestown so i don't mind talking about dodonpachi

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:16:49 2014 No.1754081 >>1754067 The only thing I agree with here is the 2nd loop. It is pretty lazy. The scoring system I just don't give a fuck.

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:43:14 2014 No.1754137

>>1754067

I'll agree with you about the music at least.

Every time I think about playing DDP, it really, really makes me not want to play. Unlike Psikyo music which is just bland and forgettable, DDP's music is specifically irritating and excruciatingly annoying.

At least the music in DOJ and DFK is great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:48:20 2014 No.1754150 >>1754137 Psikyo games had music?

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:49:37 2014 No.1754156

>>1754081
No it's not

They actually put some effort in the second loop. And don't forget that the game came out in '97.

Did you people even play Donpachi? Now that's LAZY.

In Dodonpachi the loop plays out quite differently.

+new patterns,faster bullets
+there are requirements for accessing the loop
+you can't credit feed your way to the tlb lol
+Hachi and Hibachi are very well designed
+they actually bothered to make different endings+ additional dialogue for each one

The only nitpick I have with DDP is that the hitboxes are quite messy compared to the later titles.

DoDonPachi is still the fucking King of schmupy shmups

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:50:14 2014 No.1754164 >>1754150 Some of it just popped into my head but then I play shmups.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:51:10 2014 No.1754169 >>1754156 But that's the thing, why is it hidden? Why can't I just play the 2nd loop from the start?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:55:11 2014 No.1754178 >>1754156 Suicide bullets and slightly altered boss patterns are fucking lazy, don't even try to deny it. Most games do that anyway. Very few scrolling shooters actually do the looping stuff right (I can only think of one legitimate example, non-retro).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:56:07 2014 No.1754180 File: 123 KB, 430x403, 1401864955694.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >second loops

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 19:57:17 2014 No.1754183 Do any shooters from after like, 1995, have great soundtracks anyway? Games in general transitioned over to boring 90s style techno shit around then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:20:09 2014 No.1754235 >>1754183 Phantasmagoria of Dim. Dream is ZUN's magnum opus for OST's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8XGQF34-9A

Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:30:57 2014 No.1754258

>>1754169
It's story related actually ^_^

No but really why would the let into the special round from the start.You have to work for it.

>>1754178
There are no suicide bullets in DDP.
Like I said, Donpachi's loop was indeed lazy designed but we weren't talking about that game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:32:20 2014 No.1754262 >>1754258 >No but really why would the let into the special round from the start. So I can properly practice it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:40:27 2014 No.1754274 >>1754258 They didn't even bother to put in suicide bullets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:40:59 2014 No.1754278 >>1754262 and what's stopping you anon? the requirement are manageable you want practice mode in a classic arcade game? luckily these days you can make save states and practice right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:44:23 2014 No.1754284 >>1754274 lul ddp is too busy for that shit imagine 2-5 with suicide bullets ^_^

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:49:22 2014 No.1754296 >>1754284 Maybe they should design their stages better But then they wouldn't be cave ;^)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 20:53:41 2014 No.1754312 >>1754258 Suicide bullets, faster bullets, whatever. It's all the same lazy shit if the stages and most of the enemies are the same. Slogging through the same game twice to get to the part you actually want to beat is not fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 21:09:05 2014 No.1754343 >>1754296 Eh I've seen worse Stage 2 and 4 in particular are pretty good if you think about it.These two stages are not that busy and can chain the entire stage if you have enough skill. Full chains became a staple of the series after all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 21:14:30 2014 No.1754361 File: 175 KB, 943x938, rsilost.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1754183

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 21:35:34 2014 No.1754414 >>1754183 Yep, sure do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdKPGgEMzdQ&fmt=18

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:24:25 2014 No.1754713 >>1730335 Wow boo fucking hoo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:28:39 2014 No.1754720 File: 230 KB, 325x400, seriouslyhope.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1754713 >thinking it isn't a big deal that you don't actually own the games you buy off Steam

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:33:01 2014 No.1754728 Yo, what's that game where you fight a giant metal fish in the sky?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:36:02 2014 No.1754732 >>1754720 >still whining about the concept of software leasing in 2014 Hey the mid-90s called, it wants its naive lack of compromise back

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:36:23 2014 No.1754736 File: 418 KB, 1280x800, love me some space fish.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1754728 Darius is the name

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:39:20 2014 No.1754738 >>1754736 Thanks man

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:46:05 2014 No.1754750 >>1754732 Valvedrone pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 9 23:47:37 2014 No.1754754 >>1754720 You don't actually own anything I'd take all your games if you said that shit to my face.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 02:33:28 2014 No.1755047 Anyone else thinks the aspect ratio in Hydorah is fucking terrible and makes it unplayable? I'm sure that if they made it a proper aspect ratio the game would be actually good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 02:39:22 2014 No.1755061 >>1754754 >2014 >being a thief Enjoy your prison, faggot.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:48:14 2014 No.1755153

>>1727525
>your favorite shooters
Gradius Gaiden, R-Type Delta, G-Darius. I didn't like any of the verticals I played except for maybe Guwange.

>your recent collecting
Aside from emulation, the only games I own a physical copy of are the ones on the TL2 disc. I'm new to STGs.

>your latest clears/scores
I haven't paid attention to scores. They were probably really low though. The only game I've ever 1CCd was MS3. I've never 1CCd a STG.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 03:58:37 2014 No.1755179

>>1754054
>>1754070

Not ass-pained, I just simply don't like it as a game; I don't know why you'd assume someone not liking it is only because, and only can be because it's popular. The one time I posted about not liking it people got upset about it. So I played it again, and still didn't like it. I'm not exactly sure why it's so popular to be honest.

>>1754081

Since I'm new to this genre, I might sound ignorant about this, but is it an option to choose in most other games? And what is being missed that's in the second loop?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 04:02:10 2014 No.1755184 >>1755179 The actual final boss to the game is only found in the 2nd playthrough. It's a load of shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 04:18:17 2014 No.1755213 >>1755184 And the requirements to get to it are hidden, how were people supposed to figure that out in the 90's? At least you can still get an ending even if you don't fulfill those hidden requirements.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 04:57:39 2014 No.1755265 >>1755153 >STG Stop it, weeaboo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 05:38:30 2014 No.1755302 >>1755265 That's what it says in OP's post, unless you can't read, then nevermind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 08:29:08 2014 No.1755474 >>1729617 The Guardian Legend kinda. It's more of a shmup/zelda hybrid than a shmup/rpg hybrid, but it's still similar

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 15:54:58 2014 No.1756234 >>1754067 >and I hate games that hide shit in the 2nd loop most of all. So does that mean you dislike Psikyo shmups too? Your loss, anon.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:16:56 2014 No.1756309

>>1755302
not that guy but STG does sound a thousand times more retarded than shmup.

Shoo Ting Games are my fave xD, call of duty is an STG too so stop using that shitty fucking term. As stupid as shmup sounds to the autists at least it's a very specific term and sounds less retarded than saying "yeah I like them ES TEA GEEs"

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:25:00 2014 No.1756327

>>1756309
not that guy but FPS does a thousand times more retarded than shmup

First Person Shooters are my fave xD, combat flight sims are FPS too so stop using that shitty fucking term. As stupid as shmup sounds to the autists at least it's a very specific term and sounds less retarded than saying "yeah I like them EFF PEE ESSs"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:26:30 2014 No.1756332 >>1756327 FPS - First person shooter sounds fine one letter for each word you fucking brain dead faget. Proper acronym STG - Shoo Ting Games some fucking retarded chinese crap right there weeaboo scum

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:27:35 2014 No.1756335

>>1756327
not that guy but RPG does sound a thousand times more retarded than swordy magic game.
Role Playing Games are my fave xD, military weapons are RPGs too so stop using that shitty fucking term. As stupid as swordy magic game sounds to the autists at least it's a very specific term and sounds less retarded than saying "yeah I like them ARR PEE GEEs"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:29:18 2014 No.1756337 ITT autists can't understand why RPG and FPS work while STG still sounds stupid as fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:38:39 2014 No.1756352 >>1730335 Bullshit. Not every game downloaded through Steam requires steam to run. There are games where you can execute the exe without steam. Mainly AAA games and Valve games absolutely require Steam.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:38:52 2014 No.1756354

>>1756332
not that guy but LSD does sound a thousand times more retarded than strange brain chemical
Lysergic Acid Diethylamide is my fave xD, a Beatles song is LSD too so stop using that shitty fucking term. As stupid as strange brain chemical sounds to the autists at least it's a very specific term and sounds less retarded than saying "yeah I like them ELL ESS DEEs"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:48:31 2014 No.1756382 What's wrong with just saying SHMUPs?

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 16:49:00 2014 No.1756387

>>1756337
STG works on a syllabary level for the Japanese language which is where the genre originated and was perfected anyway so why not go with what they've defined?

Besides, shooter/shmup is just as ambiguous as STG. You 'shoot them up' in FPS's too. STG just takes less to type, therefore it is more efficient because I am lazy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 17:18:19 2014 No.1756501 >>1756382 Sounds retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 17:20:16 2014 No.1756509 >>1756387 that's not how acronyms work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 17:38:28 2014 No.1756581 why aren't you streaming your favorite shmup on stgrillz? www.stg.cow.no

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 18:23:14 2014 No.1756716

>>1755265
>>1756309
Like I said, I'm new to this genre. I came here to discuss these games, not start a stupid argument on what to call a genre. I wind up calling it shmup, stg, or shooter, etc. only to have someone get anal about what I called it every single time.

It's funny how it bothers you that fucking much how others refer to a genre, and yet in all of these posts, not a single person has "the right way" to refer to it.

>>1738139
>>1738283
These are great. One of the problems I'm having though is determining what the hitbox is of your ship. How do you figure that out for different game? I can never seem to get it right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 18:38:14 2014 No.1756765 >>1756716 >How do you figure that out for different game? I can never seem to get it right. Either die a lot or try to find guides out there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 18:38:40 2014 No.1756767 >>1756716 You don't need to know the hitbox, that's world record level autism anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 18:45:08 2014 No.1756786 >>1756767 >world record level autism I don't know why I still come to these threads, honestly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 20:09:11 2014 No.1756946 >>1756581 Because I'm not a attention whore.

Anonymous Thu Jul 10 20:35:57 2014 No.1757021

>>1756716
You could probably find a picture online that shows you for more popular games.

If you're playing Cave games like DDP Resurrection then your hitbox is like 2x2 pixels or some shit and it will probably be at the center of your ship so it's not that important to know. Just try to keep your center away from the bullets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 21:29:45 2014 No.1757158 File: 1.96 MB, 850x1203, hishouza.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who toaplan here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 21:36:19 2014 No.1757170 >>1757158 Always thought their games were all style, no substance to be perfectly honest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 21:37:05 2014 No.1757172 >>1757158 I'm toaplan here. Me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 21:59:22 2014 No.1757238 >>1757170 care to explain? Cause I really fail to see how generic military shooters like kyokyuku tiger and daisenpuu are style. I think they are more about the gameplay and that you are dead wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 22:02:10 2014 No.1757256 >>1757238 There's not much else to say. They made shallow games with pretty presentations, that's it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 22:07:38 2014 No.1757269 >>1757256 What is shallow? Sky Shark/Flying Shark? Seriously I have no fucking clue what you are talking about games like truxton were actually revolutionary for their time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 22:14:51 2014 No.1757292 >>1757021 Thank you for actually answering my question. I have bad luck at posting anything without it somehow being turned into a shitstorm by others.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 22:31:55 2014 No.1757343 >>1757292 Welcome to shmups.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 22:35:19 2014 No.1757358 >>1757269 Since he's having trouble substantiating his retardation I'll explain for him. He's a cave waver that still thinks autism multipliers make his games complex.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 10 23:43:00 2014 No.1757541 >>1757269 >Truxton >revolutionary u wot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 02:35:12 2014 No.1757896 >>1757541 It was one of the hardest games in its era, and what game was throwing that many mini bosses at you in 89?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 03:20:33 2014 No.1757972 >>1757896 Gradius II

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 03:28:39 2014 No.1757987 >>1757972 Gradius II almost didn't have mini-bosses though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 06:58:47 2014 No.1758254 >>1757896 Image Fight, R-Type II, and Gradius III blow Truxton the fuck out for difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 11:36:57 2014 No.1758651 File: 37 KB, 240x320, score.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Getting there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 16:40:01 2014 No.1759468 >>1758651 eh someone took up my little challenge I see that's good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 22:27:06 2014 No.1760370 File: 34 KB, 1073x227, TitanicLance.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't mind me, just the best boss of all time cummin through

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 22:32:13 2014 No.1760379 >>1760370 If it's you I don't mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 11 22:46:31 2014 No.1760415 File: 35 KB, 484x246, 37.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1760370 Step it up son.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 01:21:04 2014 No.1760751 >>1754183 Good shmup music sharing time? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5Btcc-3gQ

Anonymous Sat Jul 12 04:41:14 2014 No.1761040
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I just beat side arms for the first time a game I have been playing since I was a little kid. I had never seen past level 3 before tonight and I almost 1 ccd it I had to use my continues on the last boss. Maybe I can 1 cc it sometime it wasn't that hard actually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:03:41 2014 No.1761958 What's your dream shmup?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:16:00 2014 No.1762003 What are some good shmups for someone looking to get into the genre? I've only ever played Gradius and its other various spinoffs, and a little bit of Ikaruga at my local arcade.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:22:20 2014 No.1762015 >>1762003 Darius Gaiden

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:33:24 2014 No.1762046 >>1762003 Espgaluda is good introductory game if you want to go down the danmaku route

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 15:54:24 2014 No.1762135 File: 1.22 MB, 292x278, 1403398217503.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1762015

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 12 17:47:50 2014 No.1762375 >>1762015 Darius Gaiden is too hard for noobs. Those fucking Taito lasers, yo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 01:54:01 2014 No.1763748 File: 79 KB, 947x1268, doodoopoo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dat 1-ALL

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 02:59:46 2014 No.1763920 >>1762375 I disagree and think it's one of the easier shooters actually. Black Hole Bombs do assloads of damage and you get about ~18 of them in a playthrough. Once you learn where those extra ship icons are hidden it's not much more work from there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 06:50:44 2014 No.1764310 File: 33 KB, 500x375, starfish.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1763748 good job anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 12:44:50 2014 No.1764753 >>1763748 congrats

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 12:48:53 2014 No.1764764 What are some easy SHMUPS for a beginner? I can sometimes beat MUSHA.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 13:24:31 2014 No.1764847 >>1764764 I found Space Megaforce to be just the right amount of challenging

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 13:31:39 2014 No.1764869 Soldier Blade

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 13:36:28 2014 No.1764876 >>1764764 Gradius 1 and Gun Nac are easy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 16:15:01 2014 No.1765275 www.twitch .tv/stgweekly they're doing Ketsui right now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 16:28:29 2014 No.1765309 >>1754156 the second loop of ddp and doj are the entertaining parts of the game. i wonder if anyone would post if i made a scoreboard for starting at loop 2 in doj on system11

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 16:51:01 2014 No.1765371 >>1765309 I think if you go to that shithole then you should stay on that shithole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 13 23:42:47 2014 No.1766402 >>1729617 >I kind of like the Western psuedo-RPG element to them I was surprised at how much parts of the SHUMP community snub their nose at that, and even the mere presence of a life bar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 00:10:40 2014 No.1766454 >>1737525 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbts2qTrbAg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 00:19:20 2014 No.1766469 >>1766402 Life bars are for euroshmup trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 00:27:03 2014 No.1766490 >>1766469 Forgotten Worlds is probably better than whatever shit 2hu game you are playing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 00:28:31 2014 No.1766492 >>1766490 gee anon it sure sounds like you're trying to start a flamewar~ also cybattler has a life bar, but it gives you only one life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 00:35:57 2014 No.1766505 >>1766492 >implying I'm the one trying to start it. There is nothing wrong with with tyrian and raptor. They are just fun to sit back and play casually just moving your ship around with the mouse sitting back. They aren't trash just different.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 00:58:52 2014 No.1766525 >>1766505 Oh shit, sorry then. But with you bringing up 2hu randomly it kind of reads like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:44:44 2014 No.1766927 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF1WBGIdyRs So what's your favorite shmup music, shmup general?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 05:47:58 2014 No.1766929 >>1766927 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Z28Vyc5hk Dat earcatch at 1:26

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 06:00:38 2014 No.1766931 >>1766927 Probably this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJE-iAE1Mt8

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 10:28:14 2014 No.1767229 >>1766469 Kind of what I'm talking about. Very much a "there is only one true way to make shumps" attitude. The community has become insanely inbred.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 11:00:36 2014 No.1767265 >>1767229 You don't have to be part of the community, you could always fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 11:11:47 2014 No.1767278 >>1767229 life bars might be "nice" on paper, but down the line all they do is lead developers down a slippery slope where they no longer care if you can get past segments without taking damage, raptor is a perfect example of this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 11:20:25 2014 No.1767292 >>1766929 Under Defeat's OST kicks ass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLz4XVRKAZo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 11:21:28 2014 No.1767298 >>1767278 post specific situations or else I call bullshit. I seriously think most of you just look for reasons to complain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 11:21:30 2014 No.1767301 >>1767278 akai katana, guwange had life bars, they were pretty damn good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:18:10 2014 No.1767378 >>1766505 >There is nothing wrong with with tyrian and raptor. they're shmup-themed versions of cookie clicker. they're fine if that's what you're looking for, but as action games they're both terrible

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:19:04 2014 No.1767380

The problem with life bars is they usually have no real business existing. Having the damage you receive depend on how long you hover over a hazard is bad design. Your avatar should only be able to take a limited amount of hits. Thus, there's no reason the bar can't be segmented into those particular amount of hits.

It's like in Mega Man, where you have notches instead of a solid bar because the notches are your actual units. When they switched to solid bars in the Playstation era that was a mistake that they eventually went back on. Life bars tell you less information about how much damage you can sustain.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:40:15 2014 No.1767423

>>1767380
This is one of the most retarded things I have ever read and it makes no sense. Notches or a solid bar doesn't make it any different you can still only sustain a certain amount of hits.

>>1767378
Your subjective opinion is not an objective fact. Why the fuck are you guys so autistic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:45:39 2014 No.1767432 >>1767423 Notches instead of a solid bar provide a more intuitive way of understanding how many mistakes you can make. I'm not sure what's so difficult to grasp about this concept.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 12:52:31 2014 No.1767442

just because you're too stupid to realize the solid bar can only take 5 hits doesn't mean it's telling you any less. I shouldn't expect intelligence from this thread though I know you retards are all talk and actually suck at the psikyo, cave, raizing games you like to circle jerk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 13:38:47 2014 No.1767519 >>1767442 wisdom

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 13:39:11 2014 No.1767520 >>1767442 We don't think you're any more intelligent for wanting to obfuscate the mechanics of the skill-based action genre. I'm sorry if you're suffering from any delusions about this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:08:10 2014 No.1767851 File: 28 KB, 404x241, cat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1767442 >actually wants health bars in shmups >says other people suck at shmups Oh the irony.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:09:59 2014 No.1767856 >>1767301 those "bars" just act like lives in guwange, radirgy, elemental master. in eurotrash shmups you still have lives along with health bars

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:10:34 2014 No.1767860

>>1767851
>Implying I was talking about shmups
the comment was made towards healthbars in general you fucking idiot. I mostly play old toaplan, and compile shit which always gets ripped on by elitists here so I don't even bother. You guys are fucking cancer though worst elitism in this thread and you're all confused as to what objective means.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:11:58 2014 No.1767861

>>1767520
You can alter the gameplay to revolved around the fact there is a healthbar and still have it skill based. Stop being such an elitist fuckwad. Forgotten Worlds has a health bar and is far more enjoyable than whatever shit you faggots circle jerk in here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:20:11 2014 No.1767887 >>1767860 >compile shit which always gets ripped on by elitists here so I don't even bother wut I don't think I have ever once seen Compile bashing around here. You sure you're not thinking of system11?

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:27:18 2014 No.1767913

>>1767860
Toaplan games were all style over substance. Compile games were easy, forgettable garbage. Thankfully, they turned into much better companies: Cave and Raizing. I think you're just trying too hard to be a hipster in an already niche subject and should just accept that people like different things.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:27:22 2014 No.1767914

>>1767423
>Your subjective opinion is not an objective fact. Why the fuck are you guys so autistic?

there are certain things that people generally expect from action games and raptor is not good at those things. this is really obvious and i shouldn't have to explain it to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:31:24 2014 No.1767921 >>1767913 Easy sure. You're not going to tell me that Zanac is forgettable though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:34:55 2014 No.1767929

>>1767914
You haven't even played it, none of you have you just regurgitate the opinions of your fellow autists. It's a good action game its not like a traditional shmup but you're under the impression its like bitmap bros amigashit even though the devs were influence by japanese games and probably never even touched an amiga.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:38:44 2014 No.1767941

>>1767913
You're the one that needs to accept people like different things, you're the autistic bastard that is convinced what you like is what other people should like. You're the one shitting on game mechanics that other people might enjoy because of your severe autism.

Again toaplan was not style over substance you fucking idiot you can't even back that up. A generic military themed shmup is not stylish you fucking braind dead idiot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:40:07 2014 No.1767945 >>1767929 Not that poster but I have most certainly played Tyrian and Raptor and they're both excellent examples of bad design.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:41:14 2014 No.1767948 >>1767941 Nah he's definitely right about Toaplan. Their shooters were as shallow and by-the-numbers as they come whose only standout attributes were the presentation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 16:42:23 2014 No.1767951 >>1767929 >the devs were influence by japanese games And you somehow think those half-assed Amiga games weren't?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:07:58 2014 No.1768003 >>1767941 >implying Zero Wing and Truxton weren't stylish It's you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:15:34 2014 No.1768016 >>1767861 Forgotten Worlds is just a poor-man's Trouble Shooter Vintage.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:16:29 2014 No.1768020

so you're telling me americans were influence by british computer games they didn't even know existed. Cool story bro.

>>1767948
No they weren't daisenpuu was purely ground based enemies and having a squadron as your bomb pretty unique, truxton started with a 3 way shot. Seriously you faggots have no idea what you are talking about you just want to be elitist and hate on late 80s early 90s shmups cause you're cancer. You hate everything that wasn't mid 90s.I honestlty don't mind if you hate things just don't call them bad because you don't like it

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:32:27 2014 No.1768051

>>1768003
Stylish? Truxton is run of the mill space ship shooter looks like any other not stylish at all. Zero wing isn't either. Tatsujin Oh is one of the best shooters of its era but you wouldn't know that because of your autistic tendencies causing bias.
>>1768016
Forgotten Worlds is a lot older you dope. I always knew you guys were autistic though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 17:36:52 2014 No.1768067 >>1768020 >Seriously you faggots have no idea what you are talking about you just want to be elitist and hate on late 80s early 90s shmups cause you're cancer. lol, just the bad ones, like Toaplan games IREM and Konami kicked ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:18:24 2014 No.1768153 >>1768067 I like those games too, they're not better just different. R-type is one of my favorites and metal black is amazing I still like toaplan though. You're just a fanboy now I see so there won't be any convincing you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:20:12 2014 No.1768159 File: 223 KB, 755x484, darius2-cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] best version of the best darius game right here inb4 gaidenfags

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:21:28 2014 No.1768162 >>1768153 >You're just a fanboy now Ahaha, what? Not liking Taoplan's junk makes me a fanboy? And what am I fanboy of exactly? Konami and IREM just because they're the only two I listed?

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:23:07 2014 No.1768171

>>1768159
Does this have the same bullshit power-up system as the arcade game where you lose absolutely everything on death, basically requiring you to play the whole game on one life, all the while the game is taunting you with its profuse number of point-based 1ups?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:25:14 2014 No.1768174 File: 257 KB, 850x1203, Darius.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1768159 Superior Darius comin' through!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:26:43 2014 No.1768180 File: 109 KB, 540x769, maxresdefault__.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That feel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:27:50 2014 No.1768183 >>1768171 Is this the new 'you have to kill yourself in Battle Garegga'?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:29:20 2014 No.1768186 >>1768159 dat boss rush mode so good folks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:30:41 2014 No.1768189 >>1768183 No because it's actually true. Die once anywhere past the first third or middle of Darius II and you're lose the rest of your ships very quickly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:32:14 2014 No.1768190 >>1768189 Arcade version, anyway. Can't speak for console versions, which may have had their difficulty significantly toned down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:33:48 2014 No.1768195 >>1768183 >'you have to kill yourself in Battle Garegga' But that's pretty much true unless you're a wizard. Same thing with "don't die in Gradius III unless it's the crystal/hi-speed stage".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:36:22 2014 No.1768201 >>1767929 i have, and it's bad as anything but a timekilling skinner box.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:37:56 2014 No.1768207

>>1768162
No it's your stupid fucking opinions you think are fact. Like military shooters the most OVERUSED theme of the late 80s being style? and just making stupid claims that aren't even true. You can't explain why you dislike toaplan except for statements that aren't even true. What does the gameplay lack? or are you going to make more subjective statements you believe are facts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:39:28 2014 No.1768209 >>1768207 I think you outta learn the definition of a fanboy: someone who defends a particular company or product with irrational zeal. That's closer to yourself than anything I might have indicated so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:46:42 2014 No.1768218 >>1768189 gradius and r-type are the same way die on round 4 in r-type and it's going to be game over city

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 18:48:12 2014 No.1768220 >>1768209 I'm not the one making blatantly false stupid statements. HURR DURR THIS GENERIC THEME EVERYBODY AND THEIR DOG WAS DOING WAS HYPER STYLIZED DURRRRR. give me a fucking break you underaged turd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:01:47 2014 No.1768253 Just played Darius II for the first time thanks to you anons. Which arcade version do you prefer, the 2 screen or 3 screen one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:30:43 2014 No.1768318 File: 16 KB, 600x100, technosoft.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do the good always die young, /vr/? ;_;

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:35:26 2014 No.1768336
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>>1768253

I'm kind of sad that I'll never see a 3-screen Darius in my lifetime. There are a few pictures of the cabs online, and it looks absolutely stunning.

Pic related is also a pretty awesome looking setup for the game.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:36:40 2014 No.1768342

>>1768218
Not really, R-Type generally has nice checkpoints. Only the midway point in stage 7 is really absurd.

And it's also not the same because Darius II doesn't have checkpoints. When you die and lose all your powers there isn't some nice developer-designed point to get them back, you are immediately in deep shit and power-ups are far less common than say Raiden or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:37:55 2014 No.1768350 >>1768253 Dual screen so I can actually see shit. I'm not a fan of the multi-screen gimmick in any Darius games. Unfortunately, the ones that have it are sort of designed around it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:38:20 2014 No.1768352 >>1768253 Play the Genesis version for the better explosion effects, clapping music, exclusive boss rush mode, and Nehonojia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:39:23 2014 No.1768356 >>1768342 Just no-miss Darius then, problem solved.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 19:43:30 2014 No.1768371
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http://www.squareenixmusic.com/features/interviews/hisayoshiogura.shtml

Also this interview with the Darius composer is fascinating.

>The completed concept for the sound of G-Darius was "a music that fuses the organic and the inorganic." By fusing the sounds of musical instruments (organic) with sounds not normally used as instruments (inorganic), I had begun the work of bringing this life (that sound) into the world. With all of the elements like cells inside my E-mu sampler, I waited patiently. I think that at that time I felt more like a scientist than a composer, conducting experiments. Just like a mad scientist. And my PC's sequencer was my laboratory. The first specimen born from my laboratory was the piece called "B.T DUTCH." It felt like meeting something completely alien, and it was terrifying.

Anonymous Mon Jul 14 20:35:37 2014 No.1768506

>>1768159
>implying master system version wasn't superior in terms of music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjIFFdGsny0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANbO_5oeDcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpnNaKMJsY

It was also pretty impressive looking, all things considered.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 20:38:42 2014 No.1768524 I only have the saturn version of darius 2, how pleb am I?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 20:39:40 2014 No.1768530 >>1768524 Well it's the closest to the arcade version I think. But I also think it handled the triple screens in a really gay way. So you're half-pleb.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 20:44:02 2014 No.1768541 >>1768530 I actually don't mind the zooming. Nobody is forcing you to use it either so you could set it and forget it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 20:49:22 2014 No.1768552 >>1768541 Yeah, but since consoles are designed to be played sitting on a couch, turning it off isn't very convenient.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 21:02:09 2014 No.1768572 >>1768552 you use the L and R buttons to zoom what are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 21:05:58 2014 No.1768581 >>1768572 You said you could turn it off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 14 21:07:46 2014 No.1768586 My pc engine super darius cd has some disc rot :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 08:42:19 2014 No.1769772 >>1768586 So does your mom's vagina

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 08:48:18 2014 No.1769783 >>1769772 shots fired

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 11:45:40 2014 No.1770089 File: 318 KB, 850x1194, flyer-gradius3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've not played shmups in forever. It's just like... bubbles, man. Fuckin' bubbles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 17:22:44 2014 No.1771059 >>1770089 That bubble stage has to be the worst fucking stage in any Gradius game. God fucking damnit it's so boring. At least the cube rush is stressful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 21:41:01 2014 No.1771927 File: 73 KB, 951x957, Einhander.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone played this gem?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 23:26:58 2014 No.1772265 Let's get some /vr/ shmup challenge ideas circulating, shall we? Here's one: how many times can you loop Fire Shark on one credit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 15 23:31:48 2014 No.1772276 >>1772265 Zero

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 03:17:02 2014 No.1772802 >>1771927 ya it's gr8. been playing it a lot lately (still can't get past the 3rd level on 1 life). good soundtrack too

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 07:41:40 2014 No.1773065 >>1772265 Megadrive? Japanese arcade version? US arcade version? MD version is easy, I can loop it a couple times. JPN arcade original not so much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 07:42:58 2014 No.1773070 >>1772265 I'd play Fire Shark, but it has no sound at all in MAME, it's kind of irritating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 08:01:13 2014 No.1773102 >>1773070 But hey, at least I've got most, if not all of the rest of the Toaplan library running correctly. Anyone knows why the sound still isn't working in Fire Shark despite it using the same hardware as the majority of their games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 18:34:24 2014 No.1774462 File: 82 KB, 480x640, 40271274.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has /vr/ tried the Darius Gaiden Extra hack? How far'd you get in the 2P side?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 19:42:17 2014 No.1774692 >>1774462 Last time I tried playing it without that ridiculous default autofire and managed to get to the second crusty hammer fight. The difficulty maxes out around Fatty Glutton or so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 16 20:02:35 2014 No.1774749 Just reading over this thread and I have to say whoever that faggot is that keeps trying to preach his "style over substance" argument should just kill himself or at least refrain from using expressions he doesn't understand.

Anonymous Thu Jul 17 04:23:55 2014 No.1776064

Could waifus save STG's? An STG with actual waifu elements and not just cute girls, like a Love Plus in an arcade setting where you have to impress bitches with your high scores or like Progear but give the girls personalities and have the attraction system show more result than a progress bar at the end of the stage

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 17 08:08:18 2014 No.1776290 File: 25 KB, 333x333, let-it-go.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1776064 >arcade setting

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 17 13:39:30 2014 No.1776842 >>1776290 Arcades are a viable economic model! But that's not what I'm talking about

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 17 19:45:29 2014 No.1777795 >>1776842 I reread it and now I like your idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 17 20:04:12 2014 No.1777863 >>1776064 >some generic anime girls shooter >some generic robots shooter You really have to be naive to think waifus could save anything I'm going with robots 10 times out of 10.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 17 22:03:18 2014 No.1778441 File: 51 KB, 457x425, 1391848858764.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just beat Thunder Force IV. That ending

>>	Shmups private collection shmups Sun Nov 1 08:18:41 2015 No.1778441,1 shmups.win

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